WEBVTT - 1-8-26 Lance with Richard Skinner

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk Bengals. A week that's included a statement from

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Brown, Zach's declaration his coaching staff expected to return,

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<v Speaker 1>and tomorrow's much anticipated Duke tob A news conference. My Guest,

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<v Speaker 1>Next Guest covering it all for Local twelve, Local twelve

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. That must mean we're welcoming in skinny, Richard Skinner,

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<v Speaker 1>How are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good? Lance are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm well? I'm curious. What do you make you've been

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<v Speaker 1>You've been around the Bengals and covering the Bengals for

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<v Speaker 1>years and decades. What do you make of Duke deciding

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<v Speaker 1>to talk tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was a decision that was probably made

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<v Speaker 2>above him, and they just said, hey, man, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have to go answer for some of the stuff because

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<v Speaker 2>Zach Taylor gets asked a lot of questions about personnel,

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of times Zach, in fairness, the first

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<v Speaker 2>to that's a question for Duke and Mike. Petralia famously

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks ago said well, we don't get

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<v Speaker 2>yest talk to Duke, and Zach's comeback was, well, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sorry for that. It was one of the great Tay

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<v Speaker 2>tayes I've seen in a long time in a press conference.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was Zach being you know, you know, nasty.

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<v Speaker 2>It was I think he was taken aback by Mike's response.

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<v Speaker 2>It was great because we requested Duke a bunch uh

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<v Speaker 2>and I get a lot of a lot of general

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<v Speaker 2>managers in the league don't talk on a regular basis,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're not asking for a regular basis. We asked

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<v Speaker 2>a bye week, which seemed like a perfect time when

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<v Speaker 2>you're sitting at three and five and on the cuspop

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<v Speaker 2>of not making the playoffs. As things progressed, it seemed

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<v Speaker 2>like a perfect time and this felt like a perfect time.

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<v Speaker 2>And we asked last week as a group and they capitulated,

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<v Speaker 2>and credit to them for doing so, because I think

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't everybodys looking at it is like, this is

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<v Speaker 2>our press conference, This is Duke's press conference. This is

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<v Speaker 2>Duke's chance to answer questions that you, as a fan

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<v Speaker 2>want to know. You know, I know people are gonna go, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you should be fired. What do you think we're gonna answer? No,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not gonna happen. I mean, one of my one

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<v Speaker 2>of my favorites was there was there was a reporter

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<v Speaker 2>that came in from a stony years ago and he

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<v Speaker 2>joked at one guy in his country when I came

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<v Speaker 2>in to do a story on Marcus Hunt, and he

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<v Speaker 2>famously told the story of I think it was a

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<v Speaker 2>hockey team, the Stony hockey team, where reporter walked up

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<v Speaker 2>with us with his tape recorder and simply said, you're

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<v Speaker 2>a disgrace. Please respect, Please respond. No, we're not. We're

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<v Speaker 2>not going there with this. There's a level of respect,

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<v Speaker 2>but there have to be some tough questions to ask.

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<v Speaker 2>We've all talked to the group about you know, how

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<v Speaker 2>to ask them and what to ask and make sure

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<v Speaker 2>we all get the i's dotted and teased cross and

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully it comes across that way and hopefully Duke. Hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>Duke responds that way. He doesn't come out with with

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<v Speaker 2>with dis the blazing and he could he could just

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<v Speaker 2>shut everything down and go I'm a genius and you

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<v Speaker 2>guys are idiots and don't ask me questions. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that's gonna happen, Skinny.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there something or things in particular you're most curious

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<v Speaker 1>to hear him address?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, two things. One does the buck literally stop with

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<v Speaker 2>him on draft night? I think it does. I think

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<v Speaker 2>we all believe it does. Does it stop with Mike?

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<v Speaker 2>Does it stop with Paul Brown? You know, Paul Brown,

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<v Speaker 2>the grandson of or Mike brown son and grandson of

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<v Speaker 2>Paul Brown. To stop with him, to stop with the

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<v Speaker 2>coaching staff. I mean, somebody has to make that answer

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<v Speaker 2>on draft night, right Like I'm making the call. You

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<v Speaker 2>guys can all give your opinions, but here's the call,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm making the call on this. We don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to all be in agreement, but I'm making the call.

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<v Speaker 2>Who makes that call? And then I'm a big believer

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<v Speaker 2>of if you ask to do this, why do you

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<v Speaker 2>believe you're the guy to get this team out of

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<v Speaker 2>the whole personnel wise and fix this roster? It hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>worked the last three off seasons. And that's a long

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<v Speaker 2>time in the NFL. I mean, John Harbaut just got

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<v Speaker 2>fired after one bad year and it was probably time.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, things run its course. We know that lace

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<v Speaker 2>things run its course, but he's borderline a Hall of

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<v Speaker 2>fame coach, and the Ravens said, Yep, this is not acceptable.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gone, and so why should you get a fourth

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<v Speaker 2>off season? Duke Tobin to fix this roster. What makes

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<v Speaker 2>you think you're gonna do it? Comment from Mike the

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<v Speaker 2>other day to State where he said, we're gonna and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm paraphrasing completely here, but we're gonna look at all avenues,

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<v Speaker 2>uh to to you know, how we do business, how

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<v Speaker 2>we do things? All right? Does that mean you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>change the way you scout? Does that mean you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>change the way you evaluate? Are you going to suddenly go, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna do production over traits? Trades over production hasn't worked.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do production over traits. Is that a case? Is it?

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna add more scouts? I'm interested. I'm fully interested

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<v Speaker 2>in that. I mean, if you're gonna, if you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>look at all things in your organization to make things better,

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<v Speaker 2>a few more eyeballs wouldn't hurt. Now. We talked to

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<v Speaker 2>Duke at the combine. He said, no, I'm good. I

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<v Speaker 2>got enough voices, I got enough people to see things.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you though, I mean, honestly, do you because it

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't worked for the last few years, and in this

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<v Speaker 2>day and age where things changed constantly in every business

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<v Speaker 2>in our business, right like twenty years ago. Twitter wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>a thing, and Facebook wasn't a thing, and TikTok wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>a thing, and you know all these things. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>blogs weren't a big thing. They were a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a thing, and they were a big thing. Uh

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<v Speaker 2>you tube wasn't a thing. For the most part, things

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<v Speaker 2>change and evolved. Can you guys change and evolve too?

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<v Speaker 2>And how do you do it?

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<v Speaker 1>If there's one thing working in their favor this offseason?

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<v Speaker 1>It's obvious that their needs are mostly centered on one

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<v Speaker 1>side of the ball, on the defensive side. Is is

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<v Speaker 1>the defense fixable in one off season?

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't twenty twenty one, right, I mean you brought

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<v Speaker 2>in Mike Kilton, you brought in cheetoh Chi. You might

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<v Speaker 2>have come the year before them excuse me, Cray Anderson came.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it was a little bit fixable and they

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<v Speaker 2>did it. Now can you do that again with the

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<v Speaker 2>money you have? I think you can. So you have

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<v Speaker 2>about five or six spots you probably have to fix.

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<v Speaker 2>That seems like a lot, But can you fix four

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<v Speaker 2>or five of those? I think you can. You can

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<v Speaker 2>do it through free agency and the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>If you do it right, it's getting other are there

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<v Speaker 1>contract extensions that you consider to be layups that should

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<v Speaker 1>be on the table this offseat, is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I don't a good way ups because they're always

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<v Speaker 2>you know, contentious, right. Uh, you know DJ Turner should

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<v Speaker 2>be extended, dak So should be extended. I did a

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<v Speaker 2>story today on all the all the current free agency

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<v Speaker 2>the Bengals have. What do you do with Joseph Osai?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you do with Cam Taylor Britt? What do

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<v Speaker 2>you do with Believe it or not? Geno Stone? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not like you've got a pleasure of safeties at

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<v Speaker 2>the moment. Do you look to go, hey, Gino, let's

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<v Speaker 2>sign you for one year proven deal as a backup,

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<v Speaker 2>not as a starter. Don't get me wrong. He can't

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<v Speaker 2>be a starter by any stretching imagination. You have to

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<v Speaker 2>either go through free agency or the draft to fix

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<v Speaker 2>that spot. You know, Joe Flacco, you have a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of free agents you have to think about too.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah it can't. Yeah, I think it can, but

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<v Speaker 2>you have to be really judicious with everything you do.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the Trey Hendrickson story, uh finished here?

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it has to be. I mean I

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<v Speaker 2>even wrote because he was one of the free agents obviously, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So I addressed that top of the top of the line, excusing,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not gonna franchise tag if it's twenty six and

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<v Speaker 2>some change, and probably gonna be higher than that. But

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<v Speaker 2>that's where the franchise tag number is the moment that's

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<v Speaker 2>too steep for a guy who just had major surgery,

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<v Speaker 2>who is has just already. He turned thirty one in December,

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<v Speaker 2>so he's gonna turn thirty two into next season late

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<v Speaker 2>and the next season, but he's gonna turn thirty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't have great production. Twenty six mil for a guy

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<v Speaker 2>like that is extraordinarily steep. Do you let him test

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<v Speaker 2>the market? Maybe the market doesn't respond to him the

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<v Speaker 2>way he thinks to smile, like, hey man, when I'm healthy,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a starter. Whos gonna get you sixteen sacks, seventeen sacks,

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen sacks. Maybe the rest of the murder goes, No,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not. You're thirty one goaler in the thirty two

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<v Speaker 2>coming off major surgery. You didn't produce a whole lot

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<v Speaker 2>this past year. No you're not. And at that point

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<v Speaker 2>maybe he does. But it feels like there was so

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<v Speaker 2>much animosity between both sides last offseason. It just doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>seem salvageable or fixable. I think the the more realistic

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<v Speaker 2>possibility is the Joseph Osaide situation, where you go, all right, man,

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<v Speaker 2>go test the market. If you get start money. We

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<v Speaker 2>are not We're not gonna respond to sort big time

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<v Speaker 2>starter money. But if it's what we did last year,

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<v Speaker 2>one year, six and a half mil, we'll bring you back.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, Trey, it feels like that ship is sailed.

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<v Speaker 1>He is Richard Skinner from Local twelve or T minus,

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen hours and fifteen minutes away from Duke Tobin talking

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow afternoon. You're going to be all over it for

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<v Speaker 1>reaction to listeners how they can read watch follow along?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, follow me on Twitter at Local twelve skinny and

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<v Speaker 2>at Local twelve dot com, Slash Sports slash Bengals. It's

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<v Speaker 2>five no offense. I mean, you guys have run on

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<v Speaker 2>your sister station a bunch of promotions for this, this

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<v Speaker 2>epic press conference. I hope we make it epic. I

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<v Speaker 2>hope people are not disappointed. But it's been I've listened

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<v Speaker 2>to the soflows. I'm like, wow, is this like a

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<v Speaker 2>president speaking about some national tragedy? Or just a is

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<v Speaker 2>a practial general manager talking about a football team. But

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. Man, Hey, I'd promote the crap out

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<v Speaker 2>of a lance.

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<v Speaker 1>I would too, Skinny, you're a good man. Good catching up.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, particularly all right, there you go, Richard Skinner

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