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Speaker 2: That would really help. Where are those guys, Diesel, you listen?

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Speaker 1: Where you're at, Come out and come out and support

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Speaker 1: It just sucks. Like I said, I am indeed very

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Speaker 1: they would for Latvia getting some Penguins talk in. The

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Speaker 2: They're like twenty games over five hundred. They're playing great.

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Speaker 1: Next game is Saturday at home against Syracuse, the Syracuse Bulldogs,

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Speaker 1: But the Penguin do have a lot of youth to

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Speaker 1: We don't know who the number five starter is, do we.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about the Pirates.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk more Pirates in the near future anyway

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Speaker 2: Dennis Santana is the closure of the Pirates.

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Speaker 1: Denis Santana, Gregory Soto set up man. They got that Montgomery.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine if Hitler had dinosaurs. That's one to

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Speaker 2: What's not gonna make us play a wild game? It's

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Speaker 3: The exit.

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Speaker 2: And you're calls enut for calls on the fifteens.

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Speaker 1: You treated Bradshaw bad, now you've always treated Ben bad

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Speaker 1: Uh, there's a lot of overreaction to how good we

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Speaker 1: Joey Josh. Canada opened their Olympic schedule with the five

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Speaker 5: They're not one of the favorites, but they're not Latvia either.

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Speaker 1: I think McDavid might blow this Olympics open. And there's

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Speaker 1: The US is playing right now. It's one one against

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

437
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Speaker 1: Maybe Slevkovski for Slovaki can be a one man gang.

438
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Speaker 1: How about him two goals yesterday, nine goals in eight

439
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Speaker 1: Olympic games on his career.

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Speaker 5: That's not bad. And no, they're they're one of those teams.

441
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Speaker 5: There's these second tier teams. That's another good one that

442
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 5: they find a way to give the big guys fits.

443
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 5: In these kinds of tournaments, you'll get like some two

444
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Speaker 5: to one overtime game that nobody was expecting.

445
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Speaker 3: But you'll see that in the preliminary round.

446
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Speaker 5: Usually the really big nations, especially Canada, in the second week,

447
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,959
Speaker 5: they start to gel and when they get rolling teams

448
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Speaker 5: like that just don't really have a prayer.

449
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Speaker 1: And h and Slevkovski for Montreal is kind of like

450
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Speaker 1: just just he's okay, he's pretty good, and he's he's

451
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Speaker 1: almost more still a prospect for them than a guy

452
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Speaker 1: they kind of. It does go to show you that

453
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Speaker 1: almost I don't want to say random nature of the Olympics,

454
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Speaker 1: but it's not far from that, is it.

455
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Speaker 3: No, it is. It's weird. There's some sports like.

456
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Speaker 5: I'm not a big golf guy, but I know in

457
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 5: golf there's some guys like when the Ryder Cup shows up,

458
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 5: they just played twice as well that they just enjoyed that.

459
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Speaker 5: It's a different kind of competition. Not all players are

460
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Speaker 5: comfortable with it, but there are some guys and he

461
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Speaker 5: I think is very clearly one of them that gets

462
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Speaker 5: up for international play just finds a comfort zone in

463
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Speaker 5: a matter that other players don't. So no, it's very interesting.

464
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Speaker 5: It's a fascinating tournament one way or the other because

465
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Speaker 5: there aren't many bad teams, like there are seven or

466
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Speaker 5: eight teams that are legitimately pretty good, but we all

467
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Speaker 5: know who the top three are.

468
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Speaker 3: There's just no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: Rock Nelson just scored for the US. Josh, now he's

470
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Speaker 1: gonna think he belongs there. We're talking to Josh Helley

471
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Speaker 1: from the Athletic here on the mark Man Show. Josh,

472
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Speaker 1: I do want to talk a bit about the Penguins

473
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Speaker 1: at the break and especially what's going on with some

474
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Speaker 1: of the guys who were in Wilkes or in juniors.

475
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Speaker 1: Cleven and Pickering seem buried in the miners. Maybe that's

476
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Speaker 1: too strong a word, but it seems like the organization's

477
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Speaker 1: faith in both guys.

478
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Speaker 5: And Pickering for sure. And remember it was Ron Hextall

479
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Speaker 5: who drafted him. It was not Kyle Dubas. I don't

480
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Speaker 5: know that the Dubas regime is just all that impressed

481
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Speaker 5: with him. And his problem is his skating. He's a

482
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Speaker 5: big kid, yes, but he's never gonna give you all

483
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Speaker 5: that much in the offensive zone and he's just not

484
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Speaker 5: a very good skater for a first round pick. I

485
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Speaker 5: do get the sense they're just not very impressed with

486
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Speaker 5: him at all.

487
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Speaker 3: Poisoning.

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Speaker 5: I don't think they're giving up on him, but something

489
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Speaker 5: clearly happened with him because he was so good at

490
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Speaker 5: the end of last season at the NHL level, and

491
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Speaker 5: he was just a different guy. He was a different

492
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Speaker 5: guy in training camp, he was a different guy. In

493
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Speaker 5: the few games that he played at the NHL level.

494
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Speaker 5: He looked like a you know, a bad version of

495
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Speaker 5: Connor Shearry, just getting knocked off the puck all the

496
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Speaker 5: time and and just.

497
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Speaker 3: Didn't look the same.

498
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Speaker 5: So that that certainly is concerning, And I'm sure the

499
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Speaker 5: Penguins want to see something from him pretty darn soon,

500
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Speaker 5: because he clearly is I don't want to say he's

501
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Speaker 5: fallen out of favor, but I think the some concern there.

502
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Speaker 1: How's Harrison Bruneck doing in junior A. I thought they

503
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Speaker 1: mangled his situation until they did finally return him there.

504
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they did.

505
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Speaker 5: I've heard he's been fine, a though I will say

506
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Speaker 5: he didn't play very well in the World Juniors. I

507
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Speaker 5: watched him quite a.

508
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Speaker 2: Bit, played all season up till then, I know, And.

509
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Speaker 5: That's that's never a good thing for anyone. I think

510
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 5: when you're nineteen, it's an especially problematic thing. And yeah,

511
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Speaker 5: for all the good things that dubas in this regime

512
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Speaker 5: have done, and they have, they are on one kind

513
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Speaker 5: of a role right now.

514
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Speaker 3: That's the one thing they didn't handle that well.

515
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Speaker 5: I really think, I really think they were just surprised

516
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Speaker 5: by how poorly he started to play. He was really

517
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Speaker 5: good in training camp, really good his first couple of

518
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Speaker 5: regular season games, and then he just fell off a cliff.

519
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Speaker 5: I don't think they saw it coming. And the problem is,

520
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Speaker 5: I don't think they had a plan for it if

521
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Speaker 5: that did happen, and it did, and it probably did

522
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Speaker 5: set him back a bit.

523
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Speaker 1: Well, Morishow definitely be in the NHL next season. And

524
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Speaker 1: has he played up xpectations in Wilkes.

525
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Speaker 5: Yes and yes, And you know, I've been told, you know,

526
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Speaker 5: don't be shocked if he comes up at some point

527
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Speaker 5: this season. Again, like if Skinner or she Loves starts

528
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 5: to stumble. And both guys have been really good, even

529
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Speaker 5: though Skinner's last couple of games have not been so good.

530
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Speaker 5: But I've been told if they start to stumble a

531
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Speaker 5: little bit, they're not going to hesitate to bring him

532
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Speaker 5: up because they think he's pretty much ready, like they've

533
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,959
Speaker 5: they've seen enough his numbers and Wilks Ferry this season

534
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 5: or off the charts like they are at every level

535
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Speaker 5: that he's ever played at. And he's had, you know,

536
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 5: pretty much the bulk of the season to play, with

537
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Speaker 5: a few games in the NHL sprinkled.

538
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Speaker 1: In Goshut the second US. Colcott waved off again the diplomat,

539
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Speaker 1: the diplomat in the blue paint.

540
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I see J. T.

541
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Speaker 5: Miller causing problems already as only he can.

542
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Speaker 3: This is just not good at all. I don't like

543
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Speaker 3: the feel of this game one bit.

544
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Speaker 2: But anyway, back to Morris Shop, Yeah, I mean, they they.

545
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Speaker 3: They, I think he's pretty much ready. They'll absolutely be.

546
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Speaker 5: I would think on the opening day roster in October,

547
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Speaker 5: I'd be shocked if he's not.

548
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Speaker 2: Well, bring back Skinner, correct, Yeah, I don't.

549
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Speaker 3: Here's the thing.

550
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Speaker 5: If Skinner plays pretty well, which he has, there will

551
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Speaker 5: be a team out there that will probably offer him

552
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Speaker 5: a fairly lengthy deal, if I had to guess, And

553
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Speaker 5: I don't think the Penguins want to do that. It's

554
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 5: not that they don't, like they'd love to bring him

555
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 5: back for another year or two, but I don't know

556
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Speaker 5: if that would make sense for him because he could

557
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 5: maybe get a pretty lucrative deal elsewhere.

558
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Speaker 2: And that's not the plan anyway. The plan is more shot, that's.

559
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 3: Right, And that's fine.

560
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Speaker 5: I mean, if Skinner did well in the short term,

561
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Speaker 5: great that they're happy about that. But I Miroshav is

562
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 5: absolutely the future, and nothing he has done this season

563
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 5: has indicated that he won't be ready for primetime soon.

564
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 5: I'm telling you he'll be on this team as long

565
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 5: as he's healthy when the season starts next year. And

566
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Speaker 5: I keep having people in the organization tell me listen,

567
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Speaker 5: like if one of these guys stumble, he's gonna come

568
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Speaker 5: up because one thinks he's just about ready.

569
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

570
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Speaker 1: My fear is with this team in general, and more

571
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: of a fan perspective, but if they make the playoffs

572
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: or win around even that, too many people, fans, even

573
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Speaker 1: some in the dressing room, will fall in love with

574
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Speaker 1: the team as is and not seeing what it needs

575
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Speaker 1: to be.

576
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Speaker 5: No, I agree with that, and you know what, I

577
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 5: think a microcosm of that, as mark is the fourth line,

578
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 5: which has been great, and they're bringing back Blake Clozad

579
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Speaker 5: for three more years on a very cheap deal.

580
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Speaker 3: So I get that. I really like him.

581
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Speaker 5: But I've had people say, well, why don't you bring

582
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Speaker 5: back Doer on a new deal or why don't you

583
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 5: give a Chary a new deal? Well, no, because they're

584
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Speaker 5: fourth liners, and fourth lines usually, you know, don't do

585
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 5: this for a decade. They've caught lightning in a bottle

586
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 5: and they've been great. But the fact is, I'll take

587
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Speaker 5: Avery Hayes over Nola Chari next season. Quite frankly, maybe

588
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 5: Rucker McGarty's even on your fourth line if he doesn't

589
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 5: start playing better. And that's not necessarily a bad thing.

590
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 5: It's not a good thing. But there are better options

591
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 5: than Connor Doer are Nola Chari moving forward? Just because

592
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 5: it's working right now doesn't mean you have to lock

593
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 5: those guys up.

594
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Speaker 3: Forever.

595
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 5: It doesn't work that way, and the good thing is

596
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Speaker 5: I think Kyle Dubas is highly well aware of that,

597
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Speaker 5: so he'll keep his eyes on the prize, which is

598
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 5: down the road.

599
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Speaker 1: Speaking of Avery Hayes, is he and their NHL plans

600
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Speaker 1: for later this year, maybe even after the Olympic break.

601
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Speaker 1: He went the Wilks after that two goal game in

602
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Speaker 1: Buffalo and scored a hat trick in his first AHL

603
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Speaker 1: game back. I don't think he's anything more than a

604
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Speaker 1: bottom six, but I think he could be a real

605
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Speaker 1: good bottom six. That said, the Penguin's bottom six seems

606
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: fairly said. I mean even McGroarty can't really crack it right.

607
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 5: It does, But I was told by somebody in the

608
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Speaker 5: organization last week he's going to be back soon.

609
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Speaker 3: You watch. Those were the words.

610
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Speaker 5: So that's all you need to know about what Dubas

611
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Speaker 5: and Dan Muse think of him. I don't think they

612
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Speaker 5: ever think he's going to be a top six guy,

613
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Speaker 5: but as just a high energy, high motor guy in

614
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Speaker 5: the bottom six. I've got people in the organization say

615
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Speaker 5: he's got a little bit of Max Talbot at him,

616
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Speaker 5: and I see that he's an undersized guy. He's so fast,

617
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Speaker 5: he plays so hard.

618
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Speaker 1: I've him compared to Rusty, Josh, and I think that's

619
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Speaker 1: a bit of a reach. But I also remember how

620
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Speaker 1: Rusty looked when he first got here.

621
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I get it, and that version of Rusty can

622
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 5: help a team win two even if he wasn't the

623
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Speaker 5: refined goal scorer that he is now. No, they really

624
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Speaker 5: like Hayes and just the injection of youth that he brings.

625
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Speaker 5: So let's be honest. People are going to get hurt.

626
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 5: That's just the way it goes. And I really think

627
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 5: we know who the top twelve are right now, and

628
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Speaker 5: I think McGroarty and Hayes make the avery not Kevin

629
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Speaker 5: are very much the thirteen and fourteen forwards in their

630
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 5: minds right now being in.

631
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Speaker 2: A playoff spot.

632
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Speaker 1: Dully noted has this been a semi wasted year in

633
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Speaker 1: terms of development? They've only had the one kid in

634
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Speaker 1: the lineup on a regular basis that being kindled you

635
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: can look at it might be too strong a word, Josh,

636
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Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, I do.

637
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Speaker 5: I think the problem is some of their young players

638
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 5: have not developed the way people would have liked. Coyvenon

639
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 5: in particular, I think we all expected him to be

640
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 5: on the team all season. That has not been the case.

641
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 5: The interesting thing about these Penguins, as great of a

642
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 5: story as they have been, and I'm taking nothing away

643
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 5: from that, it's not a young team. Like you said,

644
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 5: Kendall's the only young player who's made a huge impact.

645
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 5: They've gotten younger in some areas Parker Watherston, for instance,

646
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 5: in his twenties, but he's not young the way we

647
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 5: look at NHL players. So perhaps there is some concern

648
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 5: that Brunick and Covenant have not been as good as expected,

649
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 5: But big picture, there's still a lot of young talent coming,

650
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 5: so I don't necessarily know that it's a concern.

651
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 2: Well, the Penguins added to trade deadline.

652
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Speaker 1: That's kind of a of a weird thing to try

653
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Speaker 1: to figure because you want him to do better in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, but they're not a team that can.

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Speaker 2: Go on a run.

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Speaker 1: I heard another radio host today saying they got to

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Speaker 1: add veterans like Billy Garrt to make a Cup run,

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Speaker 1: and it's not that kind of team.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not. But that said, I do think Kyle

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Speaker 3: will do something.

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Speaker 5: If I had to guess, uh, just from based on

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Speaker 5: what I've heard as well. I think you'll probably see

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Speaker 5: the Penguins try to.

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Speaker 3: Get another defenseman, specifically.

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Speaker 5: On the right side where Crystal Tang is dealing with

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Speaker 5: a broken foot he might still be off for close

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Speaker 5: to a month. And Jack sain and Ivan he has

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Speaker 5: a broken hand, he's out for more than a month still.

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Speaker 5: Those are two pretty important right handed defensemen. So other

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Speaker 5: than Carlson, what do you have on the right side.

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Speaker 5: Connor Clifton has been okay, he's been better lately, but

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Speaker 5: you don't have much else.

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Speaker 3: And right handed defenseman don't always come cheap at the

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Speaker 3: trade deadline.

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Speaker 5: We know that, but I think Kyle ultimately would like

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Speaker 5: to add one just to balance out his blue line

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Speaker 5: and give them some death.

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Speaker 2: Josh, great stuff, Enjoy the rest of the games, and

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Speaker 2: we'll talk again next week.

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Speaker 3: All right, Mark, you got it.

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Speaker 2: That's Josh Owey the athletic im Mark Madden