1 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: Well, we're looking for Steve Cuzo. We'll find him. We'll 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: track him down. The snow is coming. It's going to 3 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: begin after midnight on Saturday, could be as early as 4 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: one am, more likely around three or four am on 5 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: Saturday night. So we'll start when you wake up Sunday. 6 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: It'll be snowing. It'll continue all day long, all day, 7 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: just won't stop, and it'll go overnight Sunday night into Monday. 8 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: Might stop Monday morning, but then come back just a 9 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: little Monday afternoon, and then by the time it's all over, 10 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: expect six to eight inches. There's various models. One model 11 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: shows four inches, one shows twelve, but most of them 12 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: showing six to eight inches. So it'll be a mess. Hey, 13 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: Steve Cuzo is the great columnist New York Post. Nobody 14 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: better on real estate, restaurants and what's going on in 15 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: New York. Steve Cuzo, how you doing morning. 16 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 2: I can't wait for this blizzard because I have a 17 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: secret source mark that tells me there's going to be 18 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 2: no inches. 19 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know who that source is. 20 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: It's another one of these overhyped phenomena, you know, I 21 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 2: don't know. 22 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: It looks like from our best weather people, it's locked 23 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: in at this point. 24 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 3: It's not gonna I know, I know, I know. Here 25 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 3: we go. 26 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, Yeah, from what I can see from your 27 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: columns you're reporting and everything else I can see in here, 28 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: Manhattan real estate is booming. Is that really the. 29 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's yeah, it's not. 30 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: It's the whole city, but especially Manhattan's a phenomenon. You know, 31 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: last night, I don't know if you were there, Mark, 32 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: but it was a Real Estate Board of New York's 33 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: annual gala event, biggest party in real estate, and at 34 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: the it was at the Waldorf Astoria, and which was 35 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: a great thing because they for one year they didn't 36 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: do it because of COVID. Then three years was at 37 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: this event space on the far West Side and no, 38 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: but he wanted to go to And so now it's 39 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: back in full. 40 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 3: Force at the Waldorf for the first time. 41 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: And you know, the Waldorf is the new Waldorf is 42 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: quite spectacular. 43 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 3: And it was a party. It was a. 44 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: Celebration, had all these real estate people, both commercial and residential, 45 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: having a blast, and they were well dressed and it 46 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: really felt like a celebration. That said, you know, when 47 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: I worried about Trump, when I worried about Mamdani, when 48 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 2: I worried about you know whatever, Greenland. 49 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 3: We had a great year and they did. 50 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: You know, there were a record number of excuse me, 51 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: commercial market which I cover, leasing was over the moon 52 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: building sales, which had really lagged behind the leasing improvement 53 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: over the since the end of the pandemic. And last 54 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 2: year it was like eleven billion dollars of investment sales, 55 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: which means that's the term for sales of buildings and 56 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: selling office buildings. First time in five years there was 57 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 2: a sale for over a billion dollars five ninety Park 58 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: Avenue on Madison Avenue. 59 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 3: So real estate is doing phenomenally well. 60 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 2: The only thing I don't believe is doing as well 61 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: as they say is retail. You know, I get tired 62 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: of reading all these wonderful surveys by all the brokerages, 63 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: by the Business Improvement districts, by the Real Estate Board 64 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: of New York itself about how you know, record retail 65 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 2: leasing this that, And I walk around and I see 66 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 2: gazillions of empty stores. But you know, it's a matter 67 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: of it. 68 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: There's a lot of nuance, but that real estate, real 69 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: estate stuff that's not a factor of Mandani or leadership. 70 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: That's just not retail diying. 71 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 3: No, no, no. 72 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: Also residential sales. This is not my field of expertise, 73 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: as you know, but from everything I'm told and everything 74 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: I read in the Post and elsewhere, a great year 75 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: for the residential market. Super high sales of luxury condos 76 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: and co ops. Co ops mounted a real rally after 77 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: a couple of years of playing second fiddle to condos. 78 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: A lot of people don't want co ops anymore, but 79 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: they bounce back to So yeah, it's a hell of 80 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: a good sign for the city as a whole, no 81 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 2: matter what happens on the social front. You know, all 82 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 2: the problems with the schools, which Mondani is only likely 83 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 2: to make worse. 84 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 3: So yeah, it was. It was a banner year. 85 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: One of those jentas is yelling everybody's leaving New York. 86 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: It's not true. It's not true, of course not. 87 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 3: It's never been true. And in the past. 88 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 2: I remember when when Trump got elected people everybody was 89 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 2: leaving the country, remember that one. Yeah, and then when 90 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: he got re elected there was there was nobody left 91 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 2: to leap because everybody had already left. 92 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 3: So yeah, these things look, you. 93 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 2: Know, we've got to sell papers. Broadcast media has to 94 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 2: attract the viewers. Uh. Social media just has to make 95 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 2: a lot of noise whenever they can. So yeah, I 96 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 2: don't have any good feelings whatsoever about Mumbani, and yet 97 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: I think that commercial real estate especially is oblivious to this. 98 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 2: The only thing that could be harmful is if the governor, 99 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 2: you know, caves in and gives in too Mumdanni's pipe 100 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: dream of raising taxes on corporations and everything. She wouldn't 101 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: do that this year because she's up for reelection, but 102 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: next year the following year could be a problem. But 103 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: commercial real estate is so strong. It's the driver of 104 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: the New York economy, not just the city but the state, 105 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 2: and it's a power behind the entire national economy. Real 106 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: Estate taxes from real estate contribute more to the city 107 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: treasury than any other than anything else, more than Wall Street, 108 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: for example. 109 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 3: Most people don't know that, but it's a fact. 110 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: So when you see stores closed, wait where you read 111 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: about Sacks going bankrupt? This the only reason for that 112 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: is online shopping has nothing to do with New York. 113 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: Right, well, it has, it's online shopping is a factor. 114 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 2: But you notice that Bloomingdale's is doing fine, Macy's is 115 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: doing fine, nord Stimer is having no problem. In the 116 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 2: case of sax Global, the parent company which includes Sacks 117 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 2: and Nieman Marcus, which they stupidly bought about a year 118 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: and a half ago, and Bergdorf Goodman, the only Burgdorf 119 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 2: Goodman in the world is right here in New York 120 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 2: on Fifth Avenue, that was a lot of mismanagement and 121 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: a lot of needless over expansion. 122 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 3: And you know, retail is not my forte. 123 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 2: But I do know I'm very skeptical of all large 124 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 2: sized mergers and acquisitions because inevitably any merger or acquisition 125 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 2: UH saddles the company with enormous debt, and they basically 126 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: served to. I mean, they can have their you know, 127 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: good consequences as well. But I believe that I remember 128 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 2: aol time Warner, Yes upon a time, All they do 129 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 2: is saddle the company with debt and they and they 130 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: enrich all the excuse me, all the inside players, corporate executives, 131 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: investment bankers, lawyers, accountants, consultants, at the expense. 132 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 3: Of everybody else. 133 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: Anyway, in the case of Sacks, the stores aren't going 134 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: to close. I mean they are going to close a 135 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 2: few stores outside of New York. Yes, but it looks 136 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: like they're on their way to restructuring. They're getting a 137 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: cash or liquidity infusion, and presumably life and business will 138 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: go on here as it did in the past, at 139 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 2: least from the consumer's point of view. If you go 140 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 2: to Sacks right now, they're stretching the merchandise. You can 141 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: see it on the shelves, but because they weren't paying 142 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: their vendors. 143 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 3: But I think that's going to change. 144 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: Hey, Steve Kisser, there's a lot of skyscrapers going up. 145 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: I mean one hundred stories, seventy story, sixty stories, They're 146 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: going up all over the place, fifty seventh Street, Park Avenue, Madison. 147 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: So can we handle all that extra traffic here? 148 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 3: You mean do you mean crowding? Mark? What do you people? 149 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:13,239 Speaker 1: Cars? 150 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 151 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: New York has always been overcrowded. I say the more 152 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: overcrowding the better. It's it means life, it means people 153 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 2: spending money. It's what makes the city exciting, why people 154 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: want to come here, where they want to be here. 155 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: So over the Christmas holidays, you know, my office is 156 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: two blocks away from the Rockefeller Center Tree and I 157 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 2: hated every minute of it, of the six weeks between 158 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 2: roughly Thanksgiving and you know, right after New Year's and 159 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: because you couldn't move on the streets. I couldn't literally 160 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 2: couldn't get into the subway right next door to my 161 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 2: building because I had to fight my way through crowds. 162 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: And yet that's a selfish concern. The bigger picture is 163 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 2: that it's it's life, it's energy, and it's commitment, and 164 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: it's world for New York City. 165 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 3: So I'm all, I'm all for that. 166 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got a lot of hot new restaurants that 167 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: are I mean, have we ever had this many jam 168 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: peck restaurants in New York? 169 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 3: I don't know. 170 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: It depends the good restaurants, the important restaurants, the ones 171 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 2: that are backed by big money. I think I'd never 172 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 2: done better. There's a squeeze in the middle and at 173 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 2: the lower end. You know, everybody's oh the rent is 174 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: too high. All that rent has always been too high. 175 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 2: But every Basically, what it comes down to is every 176 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: place that I go, which is by no means you know, 177 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: the the the the only the elite restaurants, as you 178 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: might think. 179 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 3: I go to all kinds of restaurants. It's hard to 180 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 3: get a table anywhere. And this is January. 181 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 2: January is traditionally the worst month for restaurants in New York. 182 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 2: I mean, in the past you could have gotten seats 183 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: at when Noble is in its original location and the 184 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 2: hottest restaurant in like the country. You could eat usually 185 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 2: get tables at Noble the week of from the month 186 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 2: of January. 187 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 3: That's not true anymore. 188 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: And I've been to excuse me, NIKEiD restaurants like Lusardi's 189 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 2: on First Second Avenue the other night and they're all packed. 190 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 3: And this is it was about twelve degrees out. So 191 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 3: what does that say. 192 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: Well, that's good. New York is booming. That's good to hear. 193 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: You should read Steve Cuso's columns. All his columns are 194 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: up on the New York Post website. You can read 195 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: them all there, and he writes great stuff. Steve Cuso, 196 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: New York Post. Steve, thanks for being with us. 197 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 3: Thanks Mark, always a great time. 198 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: All right, take care. So that's all good news. New 199 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: York booming. Don't listen to these people about everybody leaving. 200 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: It's busier than ever in New York. 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