WEBVTT - 10-24-25 Scott Sloan Show 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.240 Do you want to be an American idol? 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:05.960 Only seven hundred WLW the weekend of year. You can 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:08.399 smell it, you can taste it, you can hear it coming. 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:11.600 And thank God because we have football, football, and football 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:13.480 and more football. As the Bengals try to get to 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:16.840 five hundred and the Bearcats go for seven straight. On that, 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:19.120 the voice of both Dan Horde jumps in this morning 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:22.119 on the Big One. Danny, It's been a interesting week, 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:24.959 to say the least, sports wise. I let me begin 0:00:25.079 --> 0:00:27.000 real quick. I'm gonna put you on the spot, as 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:30.080 I usually do. Your take on this NBA scandal. 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:36.599 Well, obviously surprised by some of the people that are involved, 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:40.400 most notably Portland's head coach Shauncey Billups. But when you 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:44.040 embrace gambling to the extent that professional sports leagues have, 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:47.839 it seemed inevitable to me that at some point something 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:50.200 like this was going to happen. So in that sense, 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:51.879 I can't say that I'm shocked. 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:55.200 What strikes me is the stupidity of the bets that 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:57.200 were being placed. Because we know, you know, if you're 0:00:57.200 --> 0:00:59.720 a professional gaveing, you know they monitor all these algorithms, 0:00:59.840 --> 0:01:03.040 watching social media, doing all this stuff is Remember the 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:05.680 scandal that sort of involved you see Bearcat Baseball team 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:07.840 of the guy from was It Alabama was betting on 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:10.040 Alabama and put like one hundred thousand dollars down to 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:13.000 sports book ATA. You know they're gonna flag that. They're 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:16.360 going to see that instantly. Now, the X ray poker tables, 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:18.480 that's a different story. I got to go to Watson's 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:20.880 to give me an X ray poker table. That's pretty cool. 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:22.800 That was incredible. 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:26.960 Yeah, so basically face down cards can be seen. Wow 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:30.000 with an X ray table. I remember the X ray 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:32.600 glasses in the back of comic book. When I was 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:35.440 a kid, I never sprung for a pair. They always 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:36.200 looked intriguing. 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:38.160 If I were sitting at a table, my concern would 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:39.479 be cut in the game and it'd be like, wait 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:41.640 a minute, you had an X ray device on where 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:45.040 I'm sitting near my crotch for how many hours? That's 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:48.440 a real problem. That's a different problem anyway. Uh, that's 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:50.560 the stuff I worry about. Let's pivot to. Let's start 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:52.440 with you see this morning break it up simply because 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:54.480 you've got to give them love there on a heater, 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:56.680 like we haven't seen in a long time. Good for 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:59.160 Sadderfield because he's been in a hot seat. Let's face it, 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:01.480 look in a rip bof a seventh straight win. They 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:04.639 dismantled the Cowboys in front of shirtless students with Arguably 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:06.560 it was one of the coolest college football things I've 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:08.880 seen because they were getting pounded and the students were 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:12.679 still going nuts with their shirt off shirts off. Bearcats 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:14.880 sit at number twenty one in the AP their bowl 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:17.120 eligible now early on in this thing, and they got 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:20.480 homecoming against Baylor at four o'clock and you on the call. 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:26.720 Great opportunity for Cincinnati to keep moving toward possibly playing 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:28.680 in the Big Twelve Championship game at the end of 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:30.720 the year. In Dallas, they've got five games left in 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:32.919 the regular season. Three of the five are at home, 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:37.400 which is good, including tomorrow's four o'clock homecoming game. If 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:42.160 you go into the brand new palatial UC indoor practice facility, 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:46.800 there are TV monitors on the wall that list their 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:50.359 fourteen goals and the fourth and final thing listed is 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:54.320 simply one word, Dallas. That's what they've been focused on, 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:57.079 trying to get to the Big twelve Championship game in Dallas. 0:02:57.480 --> 0:03:00.280 It seems far fetched to many at the beginning of 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:03.720 the year. Cincinnati, certainly outside of this area, is not 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:07.000 expected to compete for the Big Twelve title. But they're legit. 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:10.160 This is not fluky. They've got a great offense, They've 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:13.640 got an opportunistic defense. Be nice to see the defense 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:15.400 get off the field a little bit more frequently on 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:18.120 third and fourth down. But having said that, it's a 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:21.560 legitimately good team and it should be a great game 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:23.600 tomorrow because Baylor scores a ton of points, so it 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:24.400 could you shoot out. 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:26.200 Yeah, they average like over thirty six points per game. 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:28.280 There could be a challenge for the for the SINCD. 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:29.720 No doubt. 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:33.640 Baylor's quarterback Sawyer Robertson leads the nation in passing yards. 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:37.600 He's tied for first and touchdown passes. Now, their defense 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:41.480 has really struggled. They're giving up more than thirty points 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:44.040 a game. So I would expect Cincinnati's offense to be 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:46.160 able to go up and down the field, but defense 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:48.200 is going to have to get some stops for the 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:49.240 Bearcats to pull it out. 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:51.520 Yeah, and with Brandon Sorosby, of course, it just feels 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:53.680 like he's going to be a you know, fifty two 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:56.600 to forty two shootout. It's got it has a feel. 0:03:56.400 --> 0:04:00.360 All over, maybe not quite that high. 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:02.320 I'm going that high. I love the score. I'm a 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:03.440 freak for the touchdowns. 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:05.600 Yeah. You know, they've had a couple of games this 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:08.000 year where both teams scored in the thirties. They beat 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:11.040 Kansas thirty seven thirty four. They beat Iowa State thirty 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:13.560 eight to thirty. I wouldn't be surprised if it's something 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:13.920 like that. 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:16.840 Yeah, all right, So that is tomorrow homecoming at the 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:20.080 Universe Cincinnati. Tony Pike getting entered in the Hall of Fame, 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:21.640 which is pretty cool to see pikeer doing that. 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:26.440 Yeah, it's a tremendous weekend for my broadcast partners. Tony 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:28.640 Pike goes into the UC Hall of Fame tonight, that 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:30.800 ceremony is tonight, and of course Laugh goes into the 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:33.599 Bengals Ring of Honor on Sunday at halftime with Leap 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:39.599 and Lamar Parish. So I'm a crier sloany about these things. 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.720 So if you hear me get choked up on either broadcast, 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:43.800 you'll know what that's awesome. 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:45.720 Yeah, well, you're a good guy and you deserve now 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:48.840 and and your day is I think at some point, 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:50.760 I mean you're ready to U see, Hey, you're gonna 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:52.479 be the Ring you honor next year. I'm voting Dan 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:54.200 Hord Ring of Honor twenty twenty six. 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:58.080 I am not eligible and I do not belong that 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:02.680 should be reserved for former players, coaches, or the guy 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:06.359 who started the franchise, Paul Brown. Aside from that, I 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:08.080 don't think any other name should be up on in 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:08.600 the ring a bock. 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:11.320 Let's jump to that game on Sunday, on Dave Lapham Day. 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.200 Let's talk about the three and four Bengals six and 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:16.559 a half point favorites over the hapless Jets are to seven. 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:18.599 But a coach will tell you, look, there's anything no 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:21.200 more dangerous team than ANH to seven club. That said, Dan, 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:24.719 it's just what the injuries I have. I don't know 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:26.520 how the Jets pull this off. I really don't. 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:31.440 Yeah, bless the injuries for me than it is the quarterbacks. 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:34.640 So Justin Fields and Tyrod Taylor are not about to 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:38.640 be confused with Montana Marino and Uniteds or Flaco. Justin 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:41.800 Fields has been or Flackoor. Justin Fields has been dreadful. 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:45.280 They switched to Tyrod Taylor at halftime of their lost 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:48.839 last week. Neither quarterback led the team to a touchdown. 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:53.440 Their owner, Woody Johnson, blasted Justin Fields earlier this week, 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:57.400 basically defending his coach by saying how lousy his quarterback is. 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:01.040 So that's atypical for an NFL owner to do that. 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:03.479 So the quarterback play has been bad. I do think 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:06.599 their defense is good. They've only given up thirteen points 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:08.720 in each of the last two games, so it might 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:11.200 be difficult for the Bengals to put a big offensive. 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:11.599 Number on the board. 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:15.839 But I wouldn't expect either of those quarterbacks to lead. 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:17.080 The Jets to a bunch of points. Yeah. 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:19.320 I mentioned the injuries, and we're kind of, you know, 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:22.040 a homecoming if you will, on homecoming weekend for Sauce 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:24.960 Gardner doesn't look like he's going. He's got a concussion 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:27.960 and you may recall I think it was twenty twenty two, 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:30.960 I believe, and he single handedly shut down the Chase 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:32.000 in Higgins. 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:35.720 He's one of the best corners in the NFL. He's 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:38.039 being paid like he got a huge extension prior to 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:40.120 this season, and we all know what he's capable of 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:42.839 from his tremendous career at uc SO. Yes, that is 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:45.640 a gigantic loss for the Jets as they try to 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:47.800 contend with Flacco' Higgins Chase at C. 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:49.800 Yeah, that's a problem. And then on the other side 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:51.360 of the ball for them, I mentioned the injuries. Garrett 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:54.440 Wilson has the knee. More than one in four completions 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:56.839 have gone his way. He's twenty fifth in receivers in 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:59.359 the league right now as a first rounder out of 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:02.040 the Ohio date. But is he going to be interacted? 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:04.799 We know yet, I think out. 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:09.039 According to a Rich Samini, who covers the Jets for ESPN, 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:12.520 my former college classmate at Syracuse University, he says he 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:15.040 expects Garrett Wilson to be out partly because of a 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:17.559 knee injury, partly because they have a bye next week, 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:19.680 so this would give him a couple of weeks. And 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:21.320 he missed last week's game, so it would give him 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:23.880 three weeks to recover from that injury. And if you 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:27.720 look at the Jets receiving corps beyond Garrett Wilson, there's 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:30.760 no doubt it's the worst in the NFL. I mean, 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:33.960 Alan Lazard, the former Green Bay Packer, is on that roster, 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:38.040 but he's on the back nine. Josh Reynolds is probably 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:40.840 their second best wide receiver and he's not very good. 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:44.800 So this is a very poor receiving group once you 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:45.760 remove Garrett Wilson. 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:49.360 Yeah, plus you have Tyrod Taylor in there too, and 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:51.920 you just look at it and you think the Bengals 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:55.240 can feast the area concerned. Of course, Prieze Hall, running 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:57.960 back top twenty yards per carry, got stopped to run 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:01.200 on Sunday. 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:02.840 The best player on the offense, especially with Garrett Wilson out, 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:08.800 and you know he's a great player. Replaced David Montgomery 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:12.360 at Iowa State as the running back, and much like 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:15.440 David Montgomery, he's proven to be an excellent NFL player. 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:18.360 So yeah, there's no doubt about it. Looking at that offense, 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:21.360 that's the person that you put a gigantic circle around 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:24.160 as the number one priority to shut down or at least, 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:26.720 you know, hold them to reasonable numbers. And if the 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:29.200 Bengals do that, I think the Jets are really struggle 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:29.600 to score. 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:33.080 Yeah, and I think you look at that the pass protection. 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:35.360 Jets have given up thirty one sacks through seven games, 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:37.439 of the worst of the NFL. The old line is terrible. 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:40.839 You've got a less mobile Tyrod Taylor in there. You 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:42.679 would expect it to be a really, really good day 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:43.640 for that Bengals. 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:49.240 Dealon offensive line, well, let me backtrack. Stacks are not 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:52.880 just an offensive line that. It's a quarterback stat too, 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:54.720 and I do think one of the reasons why they've 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.920 given up so many sacks is justin fields. As mobile 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:00.520 as he is, holds onto the ball forever. Yeah, he 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:03.640 doesn't see it like the elite quarterbacks do. So I 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:07.079 would expect Tyrod Taylor to get rid of it quicker 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:09.520 and that'll make it more difficult to get to him. 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:12.320 But your point is right, it's not a great offensive line. 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:15.720 They haven't invested first round picks in both tackles, and 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:18.120 I think both of those guys will eventually be good, 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:19.360 but they're not there yet. 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:22.199 Dan Horde, voice of the Bengals and the Bearcats. Big 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:24.640 weekend for both teams, of the Jets in town. We're 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:26.840 pivoting on that right now, we're talking about that right now. 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:30.360 I also look at the quarterback matchup too, and we'll 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:33.000 rewind of the Steeler game. To me, and I'm sure 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.480 you're the same. The best thing about last week was 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:39.320 how angry what was going through Mike Tomlin's head walking 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:41.840 from the locker room to the bus and thinking how 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:45.280 Cleveland probably should have got I don't know, like a 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:47.719 half a win with that one for trading him to us. 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:50.480 And right before the Steelers it was fantastic. 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:54.560 I would buy a ticket for the Mike Tomlin Andrew 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:55.320 Berry fight. 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:57.040 Can we just put up a. 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:59.079 Boxing ring in the middle of an NFL stadium and 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:02.800 that Steeler said square off against the Cleveland Browns GM, 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:05.920 that would be very entertaining. Mike Common definitely wanted a 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:08.920 piece of him after that game last Thursday night. And yes, 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:12.080 thank you Cleveland for trading Joe Flacco to the Bengals. 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:15.280 Bengals fans are chanting that, yep. After the game when 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:18.720 Joe Flacco was interviewed by the Amazon Prime crew, thank 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:22.000 you Cleveland. So it turned out to be a great trade, 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:24.680 at least so far. He's been spectacular in his last 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:27.160 six quarters and he's hoping he keeps it up. 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:28.559 On a Sunday afternoon. 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:31.240 Yeah, the ghost of Paul Brown rising up and beating 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:33.400 the Steelers. I absolutely love it. What was that most 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:36.160 surprising aspect? Of that game last week with the Steeler 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:36.920 win for you, Dan. 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:43.120 Really just how easy it looks for Flacco right now. 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:46.640 I mean the simple fact that he was able to 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:49.440 come in here on a Tuesday, hould his first practice 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:52.440 on a Wednesday, and play well in the second half 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:54.640 against Green Bay in Week one, and then have a 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:56.679 short week in Week two and it looks like he's 0:10:56.720 --> 0:11:00.079 been here for five years instead of you know, at 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:02.880 that point nine days. So the fact that he's playing 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:06.480 at such a high level with so little time invested 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:08.680 with the Bengals, that's what's most remarkable to me. 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:11.679 He had a called him the goat for two reasons, 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.480 you know, the Grissmelter, but also the fact that you know, 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:17.240 like like in in the horse racing, it is they 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:19.000 have like a goat that hangs out in the stables 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:20.439 to kind of keep be a but kind of calmed 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:22.079 down the horse a little. He had that effect on 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:24.280 the place because early on, you know, people are jumping 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:26.880 off size the chase Brown wrapped that easy ball and 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:28.520 I was like, oh man, here we go. And then 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:30.080 he just had this like I got this, it's calm, 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:32.880 calm this holes this own the zen thing you had 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:35.240 going on and the team like bought in and he 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:37.640 just calmly, let drives up and down the field all night. 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:39.960 It was to me that was at presence. He's just like, 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:43.120 it's okay, I've seen worse. We got this. He settled 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:44.360 everybody down. I think. 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:49.800 Joe Burrow is Joe cool. Joe Flacco is Joe calm. 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:52.640 That's the effect that he's had on the team. He 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:56.280 is unflackable. And if you prefer that as you're a 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:59.560 lion about you know, just the presence that he's provided. 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:02.360 But I think that's absolutely true, and they needed it. 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:07.040 Jake Browning's confidence was shot. The coaches and players had 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:10.079 lost confidence in him, partly because of his play, or 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:12.240 largely because of his play, but also just because you 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:15.400 could hear it in his voice. He had completely lost confidence. 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:19.960 So Joe Flacco has come in and instantly changed that vibe. 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:22.439 And of course he's offset and for the second week 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:24.959 in a row, an older quarterback, certainly not to the 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:27.800 age of the previous week, or is it, but by 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:29.360 tyro Tap has been on a week for a long 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:32.240 time as well. When we heard that the Jets are 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:35.000 going with him instead, how does that change things? Relative 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:36.160 to the game plan for Sunday. 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:40.079 It doesn't really change much because the Jets offense doesn't 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:42.720 change much. But I do think it makes the Jets 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:46.200 more of a threat, only because that's how lousy Justin 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:52.199 Fields had been playing. You know, the Jets are struggling 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:56.040 in every way offensively, the one that matters is points, 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:58.880 and they haven't scored a touchdown in two weeks. 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:00.360 So the field. 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:02.880 You look at his NFL career, he's been good as 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:06.000 a running quarterback, but he's never really been good as 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:09.240 a passing quarterback. I think if you look it's the 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:13.079 last five years. If you look at the three teams 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:16.040 in the last five years that had averaged the fewest 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:18.320 passing yards to this point of the year, I know 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:20.880 it's kind of a wordy stat, but in any case, 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:24.160 those three teams were all quarterback by Justin Field. So 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:27.120 if this year's Jets and two of the teams where 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:30.360 he was the starting quarterback with the Bears, those three 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:34.319 teams had the lowest passing yards per game at this 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:36.880 point of the season in the last five years. So 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:39.960 that tells you that Justin Fields is just not a 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:42.000 good passing quarterback. 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:42.520 Period. 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:44.880 As bad as this team is, and we just discussed 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:47.360 all the Jets injuries as well. The Bengals are not 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:49.520 nearly as bang up. Obviously two be one being down. 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.559 But Trey Hendrickson on that hip has been limited all 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:54.440 week is does it just make more sense to rest 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:56.480 him and then give Shamar Stewart more reps? 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:56.600 Now? 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:58.680 Granted, Shamar Stewart is not where he needs to be 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:00.760 at this point in his young career, but it feels 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:01.760 like a gamer, you should do that. 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:07.200 It all depends on how serious the injury is. You know, 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:12.520 Trey reportedly wanted to play last week, so he continues 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:16.079 to be limited practice. They're going to evaluate that based 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:19.080 on just how serious this hip injury is. But if 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:21.760 they determine that he's had no risk to make it 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:25.120 worse and feels like he can play, you can't afford 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:28.640 to lose at this point to a team that's winless 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:30.840 at home. So if Trade thinks he can play and 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:33.360 the medical staff says, you know what, it's ready at 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:34.440 this point, I'd play them. 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:36.400 We didn't talk at all about Chase Brown, who lit 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:38.080 up the Steelers last game. All of a sudden, it 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:40.000 was like a light switch got flipped. Do you expect 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:40.760 more of that this week. 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:44.680 Well, I don't know if the Bengals are going to 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:46.680 rush for more than one hundred and forty yards again, 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:48.400 but I do think that they're going to have a 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:50.720 lot more than they had prior to the last week's game. 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.440 I don't think they had top sixty if I'm not mistaken, 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:57.000 in the previous games, So let's get that number into 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:59.760 triple digits at least. I think they found something that 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:02.440 the offensive line in the Pittsburgh game, and hopefully it 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:05.640 continues because they need to have some sort of a 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:07.880 running threat. That's one of the reasons why Flacco is 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:11.600 so effective. Against the Steelers, they finally had a running threat. 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:14.520 Chase Brown average nearly ten yards of carry. He's not 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:16.360 going to do that again, but you know, for much 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:19.480 of this year it was under three. So I thought 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:22.280 the running game actually showed some signs of life against 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:24.960 the Packers. I think they averaged more than four yards 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:28.240 to carry in that game, and then they got to 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:29.840 a point where they had to throw it in the 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:33.800 second half. But it's showing signs of life. It was 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:36.960 really good last week, and hopefully it'll at least be 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:37.960 solid on Sunday. 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:40.880 Yeah, you would think so. In better blocking helps. They 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:43.080 blocked a lot better against Pittsburgh than they have in 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:45.040 a couple of games. Also, it's this time of year, 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:47.280 the trade deadline coming up. The Logan Wilson thing is 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:48.960 I don't I think it's just noise. I mean, it 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:51.280 seems like every team or a most teams have something 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:54.000 like that going on. Logan Wilson gets bench, he requests 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:57.560 the trade in pretty clearly. You know, Bearck, Carter, Demetrius 0:15:57.640 --> 0:15:59.400 Night being rookies and all that. But that's the future. 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:02.280 And of course he was bench before the Green Bay game, 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:05.720 so we'll see. I'm sure there's some teams where he 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:08.120 makes a fit. There's a fit, But I know that 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:10.520 was a big storyline this weekend. I just thought I 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:13.480 just point that out, and there's no observation he needed there. Dan, 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:16.320 it's that time of year, we're going to the trade. 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:19.000 The one thing I'd say about Logan Wilson is that 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:21.760 I don't expect him to be a problem, even though 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:24.640 he has requested a trade. You know, I can't blame him. 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:27.520 He wants to start, he's lost his starting job. He's 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:30.600 only twenty nine years old, but he's not the type 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:34.200 of guy that is going to tank or be a headache. 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:37.640 You know, we remember Carlos dunlap Burn bridges on his 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:39.920 way out the door. That's not going to happen with 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:43.240 Logan Wilson. Maybe they make a deal if the right 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:45.680 offer is out there, but I don't know. It kind 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:48.960 of feels to me like it's more likely that, you know, 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:50.840 he's part of this team for the rest of this year, 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:52.120 and then maybe at the end of the year, with 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:54.120 one year left on a deal, they see if they 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:56.120 can make a trade, then all right. 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:58.880 He is a busy man this weekend and his partner's 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:01.840 getting inducted in the respective well the Ring of Honor 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:04.080 for Dave Lapham and the UC Hall of Fame for 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:07.520 our own Tony Pike. And he is the constant between both. 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:10.640 He is the conduit between excellence. That would be Dan Cord. 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:13.200 It all goes through your fingers, Dan, all through, all 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:15.280 goes through your vocal cords. Congratulations. 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:20.160 Don't congratulate me, but congratulate them because it's well deserved. 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:21.399 Looiting forward to being. 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:25.280 For Tony's event tonight, along with the five other former 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:27.560 Bearcats that will go into the Cincinnati Sports Hall of 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:30.600 Fame and then obviously lap and Lamar Parrish on Sunday. 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:32.159 That's going to be awesome, all right, will you enjoy it? 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:33.560 I know you well, Danny, all the best. 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:36.080 Thanks Buddy, Thanks Tony, thanks for having me on you sir. 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:38.280 We'll do news on the Way in just minutes on 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:41.280 the home of the Best Beangals coverage and the Bearcats 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:43.240 seven hundred WLWD, Cincinnati. 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:48.239 Now. 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:52.280 A man who has entertainment reporting of coursing through his veins, 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:55.240 which makes him a medical offeity. 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.840 He is ABC Will Gans from New York. 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:01.280 He has a few things going on a movie and 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:05.000 music wise anyway, and Will kansons back from his ABC 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:07.879 Good Morning America three world tour. Well, how are you doing, buddy? 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:12.560 I'm exhausted. The life of a celebrity has really caught 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:12.960 up to me. 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:13.240 You know. 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:15.840 Pretty impressive though. He's talking to me and now he's 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:19.320 doing Good Morning America and stuff, and now he's back 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:21.879 and trying to balance both. I get it because you know, 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:24.840 in this day in media umpires, we have to wear 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:27.439 a lot of hats and keep a lot of balls 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:29.760 in the air juggling. Why so I appreciate you. Let's 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:32.080 jump in with this one because I saw the trailer. 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:35.240 I like Bruce Springsteen a lot. I don't think I'm 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:38.399 a fangirl, but I love Bruce Springsteen and Jeremy Allen 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:41.080 White of Bear Fame is starring as him in the 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:43.960 new movie called Deliverabently from Nowhere. Saw the trailer and 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:45.840 when I learned he's singing, because sert thing you want 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:47.800 to find out is does he do the singing in 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:50.800 here too? Now he sings? He also plays guitar too, 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:51.199 doesn't he? 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:52.800 Yeah? 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:56.720 So he you know, as he pointed out, we know 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:58.480 him from the Bear so we know he does that 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:03.040 sort of torture artists things very very well, and he 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:04.840 is bringing that in you. 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:06.639 Know, full forth to this movie. 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:10.679 Yes, so he is singing, he is playing instruments and stuff. 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:13.160 They do mix in a little bit of Bruce's original vocals, 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:16.119 which I think, you know, for fans of Bruce Springsteen, 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:17.359 that will you know. 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:19.600 That goes a long way also. 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:22.359 But the thing with this movie is, like I was 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:25.679 sort of anticipating, you know, a big like bold like 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:29.320 feels like you're front row and a concert sort of movie, 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:33.520 and it's a lot more introspective and you know, it's 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:36.760 Bruce working on the Nebraska album, so it's after his 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:39.040 first tour and he's sort of on the brink of 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:42.600 becoming the superstar that we know he'll become, but he's 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:44.480 dealing with a lot of his own like ener demons 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:47.440 and stuff as well. So you know, there is great 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:49.960 stuff for fans of Bruce Springsteen, little easter eggs and 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:51.560 stuff where you're like, oh, this is where he got 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:53.360 the inspiration for that song that he'll. 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:55.560 Write, you know, twenty years later or whatever. 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:58.480 So it's in movie theaters this weekend. 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:02.560 It's and it's getting a lot of oscar buzz already 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:06.040 for Jeremy Allen White for playing Bruce Springsteen, so you know, 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:09.000 if you're looking to see something in theaters this week, 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:10.640 and I think it's a pretty solid choice. 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:11.800 I had a good time watching. 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:14.520 The sound is amazing. I mean, he his vocals are 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:15.359 really really strong. 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:18.600 I couldn't believe it, I know, and I guess you 0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:21.480 know he was sort of worked with and hand selected 0:20:21.480 --> 0:20:24.679 by Bruce Springsteen to some extent, So you know, I 0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:27.720 think when when you're sort of taken in the fold 0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:30.840 in that way, you better sound pretty great, right, And 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:31.800 I think he nailed it. 0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:35.280 Yeah, Yeah, that's pretty cool. And you know, just kind 0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:37.920 of known about Nebraska. The album itself, he like really 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:39.240 wasn't supposed to be. I think it was a demo 0:20:39.280 --> 0:20:42.439 basically he's recording and just recording stuff on a on 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:45.160 a simple recorder, wasn't even a studio, and he said 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:46.639 now we're gonna, We're going to release it. Likely a 0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:48.760 huge gamble for the record company. And if you if 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:50.639 you know it was coming with the next album, of 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:52.800 course in eighty four, would be born in the USA, 0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:54.480 and a number of the songs that he wrote that 0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:57.320 would have been he left off and then turned out, 0:20:57.440 --> 0:20:59.680 you know, like Glory Days, for example, is on the 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:02.040 All Stamily one of the biggest albums of the eighties 0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:04.040 if if out All Time, and that's born in the USA, 0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:07.960 So you see the seeds of that that thinking, and 0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:09.240 it's all coming out in Nebraska. 0:21:09.400 --> 0:21:12.320 Really neat exactly exactly. 0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:14.680 Yeah, So it's it's a really you know, it's a good, 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:17.280 great movie for fans of Bruce and a and a 0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:18.760 really great movie for people who. 0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:21.239 Don't maybe know that that much about him. 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:23.280 How much in the is the East Street Band featured 0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:23.520 in that. 0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:29.199 It's I would say it's more about Bruce and his 0:21:29.320 --> 0:21:34.400 like early relationships with like women and his mom and stuff, 0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:36.280 and his managers in it as well. 0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:40.120 But the band, you know, not not so much. 0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:42.960 It's really more of like a yeah, more I would. 0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:48.159 Say, like personal and interpersonal, like gotcha relationship. 0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:49.960 If you're expect to be like the Queen or the 0:21:50.000 --> 0:21:51.480 Elton John one, that's not the case. 0:21:52.000 --> 0:21:54.919 That's exactly correct, that's exactly correct. 0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:55.600 Yeah, gotcha. 0:21:55.720 --> 0:21:57.760 So I don't prepare to be disappointed. Is that what 0:21:57.760 --> 0:21:58.200 you're saying. 0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:01.240 No, no, no, no, it's just it's a different type 0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:01.600 of movie. 0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:04.280 It's you know, it's it's yeah, well it's a. 0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:06.080 Worth of twenty bucks or whatever it's going to cost 0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:06.960 me to go see this thing. 0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:09.240 I would say, yes, definitely. 0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:11.080 Is it an imax too? 0:22:12.880 --> 0:22:15.240 I actually I don't have the answer for you there. 0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:17.200 I yeah, yeah, good question. 0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:18.840 Yeah, it's just to see I mean, you want to 0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:20.439 see it. It's like if you like the music, you 0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:22.159 want to see in the big screen because it's it's 0:22:22.240 --> 0:22:25.000 just so immersive. Well, gance in New York this morning, 0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:27.720 So deliver me from nowhere is a go I know 0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:31.040 that Adam Brody of course that Oscar, But Kristen Bell, 0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:33.440 nobody wants to set's on Netflix right now? What's that about? 0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:36.240 Yeah, so this is season two. 0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:40.320 So season one came out back in November December, and 0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:41.400 we're already at season two. 0:22:41.400 --> 0:22:42.720 But this show sort of blew. 0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:43.960 Up in a way that nobody thought it would. 0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:46.200 It was nominated for a ton of Emmys this year, 0:22:46.520 --> 0:22:49.320 Kristen Bell and Adam Brody and the show itself was 0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:50.640 nominated for Best Comedy. 0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:52.280 So this is the one. 0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:53.359 That's based on a true story. 0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:56.240 She played a podcaster who's not really religious at all 0:22:56.280 --> 0:22:57.520 and ends up meeting a. 0:22:57.520 --> 0:22:59.640 Rabbi at a party and. 0:23:00.200 --> 0:23:03.720 End up falling for each other. So season one ended 0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:04.520 basically with. 0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:06.800 Them saying, you know what, let's try and make this happen. 0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:10.320 You know, despite not really fitting into each other's you know, 0:23:10.400 --> 0:23:13.840 personal lives or families, you know, work relationships are all 0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:16.199 sort of thrown into the air because of this relationship. 0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:18.880 And season two picks up with them trying to make 0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:21.960 it work, and each episode is only about half an hour. 0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:24.080 It's really sweet, really funny. 0:23:24.720 --> 0:23:27.800 The soundtrack is actually like a ton of fun as well. 0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:30.440 So this, you know, for anyone who wants to stay 0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:32.359 in and only has a little bit of time and 0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:33.960 can catch an episode here or there. 0:23:34.240 --> 0:23:36.920 It's a lot of fun this show. Nobody wants to Yeah. 0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:38.520 I know because when I fell in was in love 0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:40.640 with my rabbi, it was a lot more dramatic and 0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:42.240 it didn't work out right right. 0:23:43.119 --> 0:23:45.359 Everyone can relate to falling in love with their rabbi. 0:23:46.119 --> 0:23:47.240 It's the tale as old as time. 0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:49.720 Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, I'm a gentle I'm not even close 0:23:49.760 --> 0:23:53.400 to Jewish, but you know, I understand what else you got. 0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:57.760 So they announced yesterday that the last episode of Stranger 0:23:57.840 --> 0:24:00.439 Things of the entire series, is going to hit theaters 0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:03.080 the same day that the episode starts streaming on Netflix. 0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:07.480 So for anyone who maybe forgot what happened. 0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:10.160 You know, season four of Stranger Things came out over 0:24:10.640 --> 0:24:16.200 to like about two years ago. So I am recommending rewatching. 0:24:16.400 --> 0:24:20.280 I have been rewatching from season one all of Stranger Things, 0:24:20.320 --> 0:24:24.320 because the final season will drop about a month from now. 0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:27.440 And you know, some estimates say that there they spent 0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:31.960 sixty million dollars per episode of this last season making 0:24:32.000 --> 0:24:35.560 the show, yeah yeah, come to life, and so it's 0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:37.560 gonna be huge. It's gonna be epic and it's gonna 0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:40.919 be a movie theaters, So you know, it's I have 0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:43.280 I've had such a fun time rewatching the show and 0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:45.360 reminding myself you know, why I loved it, why it's 0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:48.080 really been boundary breaking, and why Netflix has invested so 0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:51.320 much into it. So yeah, if if you have some 0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:54.240 time to kill, uh, you know, the final season will 0:24:54.320 --> 0:24:58.679 drop right before Thanksgiving, the first part of that season, 0:24:58.760 --> 0:25:01.360 so you know, have about a month if you want 0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:02.800 to rewatch the first four seasons. 0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:05.760 Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's I think the reason 0:25:05.840 --> 0:25:07.919 why and we can talk about why it's so iconic. 0:25:07.960 --> 0:25:11.040 I think just because it really captured the whole eighties 0:25:11.040 --> 0:25:14.160 aesthetic really well. It wasn't like campy or anything like that. 0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:15.600 It was it's really well. 0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:18.760 Done exactly, and even the way they fold in some 0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:21.920 sort of eighties familiar faces. Of course, Winona Ryder plays 0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:25.840 the mom, and then they have guest appearances from you know, Sean. 0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:27.680 Aston who was in the Goonies and. 0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:29.760 You know, things like that, and then in the last 0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:34.960 season there will be some guest appearances as well from 0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:35.960 other eighties icons. 0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:38.960 So you know, I think it's it is it. 0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:40.879 Really does a good job with that eighties you know 0:25:40.960 --> 0:25:43.800 aesthetic and vibe and even the music you know, pays 0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:45.040 homage to that time as well. 0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:47.320 Plus it's so weird, right, you got horror and sci 0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:50.040 fi and mystery and it's a coming of age drama. 0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:52.120 You get like it's it's hitting all and normally it's 0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:55.240 way too they'd be way too confusing, but they make it. 0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:58.880 Work exactly, and parts are very funny too, and and 0:25:59.040 --> 0:25:59.840 you know, heartwarming. 0:25:59.880 --> 0:26:02.600 So so yeah, it is like it blends those. 0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:05.359 Genres really really well. And it's well acted also. 0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:07.160 Yeah, and if you think about it too, I mean, 0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:09.480 this was the first season. I want to say, was 0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:13.399 it twenty fourteen, twenty somewhere in there, but it really 0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:17.080 felt like this is the one, Like the Sopranos made Hbo. 0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:18.960 This felt like this is what made Netflix. 0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:22.280 To me, I think you're right on the money with that, exactly. 0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:24.439 This was when I was like, oh, okay, like I 0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:26.600 should be paying a subscription to watch this show. 0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:30.000 Yep, right exactly. He is will Gans, ABC News multi 0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:32.119 platform guy in New York. He does it all. Go 0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:34.800 see him on GMA three at will Gans with two 0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:38.280 Wes's and Deliver from Nowhere looks like the hit that 0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:40.320 people are pretty I think it's gonna be pretty well 0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:42.200 the box office. And then you got options on the 0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:44.560 small screen as well. Appreciate it. Well, we'll talk next week. 0:26:44.600 --> 0:26:46.919 Man, all right, have a great weekend. 0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:48.919 You as well. You as well, you as well. So 0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:51.200 there you go. Stranger things got that. Nobody wants this, 0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:55.679 and it's kind of like the Jets, nobody wants us. 0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:59.120 We got that on Sunday, and you see football tomorrow. 0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:01.320 So hey man, we got sports. You got stuff to do. 0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:03.320 I think I'm gonna go to the theater. It's I 0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:04.959 don't know, maybe not this weekend. At some point, I'm 0:27:05.000 --> 0:27:06.760 gonna go see Delivered Me from Nowhere. I haven't been 0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:08.480 in the theater in a long time. Like that seems 0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:11.440 to me like the one to go see because it's 0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:14.840 gonna sound great. And who isn't a Jeremy Allen White fan. 0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:19.520 I mean, if you saw Shameless, that that was what 0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:21.960 he made him. Let's put it that way. He's like, woh, 0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:24.639 this guy's a great actor. And then he does the Bear, 0:27:25.000 --> 0:27:27.960 which is as good in a different way. I thought 0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:30.000 the last season wasn't as good as the previous ones, 0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:32.639 but it was still pretty good. And now he's Springsteen, 0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:34.159 So those are the things you're like, I kind of 0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:36.639 gotta go see him because he is a hell of 0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:39.399 an actor. And if he's doing the singing and the guitar, 0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:42.480 and if you've seen some of the clips on social 0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:46.800 the vocals are it's incredible. It's like you think you're 0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:49.240 watching Bruce Springsteen and a lot of the facial features 0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:51.880 and gestures. He really has him down, did a really 0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:55.879 really job with it. The storyline, I'm just curious, is 0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:58.640 it two inside Baseball? Like Nebraska is not the biggest 0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:01.679 reason why they're doing I guess it's the story behind it. 0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:03.760 But anyway, if you're a fan of music, he got that. 0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:06.000 We got football this weekend and got movies, got it 0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:08.240 all going on. Let's get a time out in It's 0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:10.959 the Scott Sloan Show. In about four minutes here on 0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:14.840 seven hundred WLW will get into the NBA scandal and 0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:20.639 some observations about that, and particularly the day after the 0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:24.320 NBA season starts, right this is when the FBI decides 0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:29.520 that they're going to overshadow all of that with this scandal. 0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:31.880 I think it's an interesting timing and why we'll get 0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:34.159 into and just minutes here, slowly back and forth on 0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:39.200 seven hundred WLWT, seven minutes away from news on this 0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:42.360 Friday morning. Seven hundred WLWT is so far nice and quiet, 0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:46.120 like we like it, like we like it. Steve Gooden, 0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:48.920 who is a council CANDI, former councole person and attorney, 0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:51.760 a little analysis on what the city just did relative 0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:54.520 to Terry Fiji, because it really leaves a lot of 0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:57.600 folks myself included scratching our heads going, I just I've 0:28:57.720 --> 0:29:01.600 never seen anything like this before. You fire someone and 0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:04.360 then decide to find the reasons why you fired her 0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:07.360 in the first place. That just ahead Bengals trying to 0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:10.360 get into even five hundred Bearcats going for seven straight. 0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:14.280 We've got lots of football this weekend. Also also also 0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:18.320 we have the scandal that just broke yesterday. So why 0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:22.400 does the FBI do this massive press conference slash purp 0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:28.000 walk yesterday afternoon the day after the well, the the 0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:30.000 as I say, at the start of the NBAC, they 0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:33.479 had twelve games on Wednesday, and of course you had 0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:35.240 you know, a night kickoff, couple games, a couple of 0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:36.800 games and then big with a big slide full slighting. 0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:40.080 Why would they do that like opening week because it 0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:42.320 totally took away from opening to the NBA basically is 0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:44.200 what it was opening day. I guess I should say 0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:46.640 with a full slight of night games. Everyone's so excited 0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:50.880 about that, and I think it. You know, looking at 0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:54.640 you can kind of tell why. So Travel's coach, the 0:29:54.680 --> 0:29:58.160 Hall of Famer Chauncey Billups and Miami Terry Rose here 0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:02.320 thirty people among their people, thirty four in total arrested yesterday, 0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:05.400 and this investigation has been going on for a long 0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:09.720 time in the FBI. It's Wirefrog conspiracies, money laundering. So 0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:15.160 Rosier arrested and accused of leaking confidential information about his 0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:18.280 health to people associates who used that to bet that 0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:21.240 he would underperform. So he's in a game, he said, hey, 0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:24.080 here's here's again, and you know, he winds up leaving early, 0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:27.280 faking an injury, and they bet the under onund how 0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:30.280 many points each court basically and Chauncey Billups, it's a 0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:34.840 whole different thing. That's Tony Soprano and the Italian mob 0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:38.640 of Coosonostro, which surprises of Italian they still are still 0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:41.800 that strong. But although they have private table games backed 0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:44.480 by the New York Mob, and there's X ray poker tables, 0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:47.200 so I can see what the cards are, and it's 0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:50.160 that that's a whole different thing right there. And of 0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:53.160 course John D Porter, a former NBA bench player, also 0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:55.640 accused of disclosing confidential information about his health to a 0:30:55.640 --> 0:30:57.600 better So those are three of the big ones. But 0:30:57.800 --> 0:31:01.520 I look at this and go, okay, why would you 0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:04.840 do this on that It's because the NBA already cleared 0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:10.080 Rose here essentially did their own internal investigation, I guess, 0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:13.440 and said, okay, yeah, nothing to see here, and the 0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:16.000 FBI said, well hold on just a second. So they 0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:18.480 start looking at it, and then I think, what's happening, 0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:21.360 especially under Trump right doesn't like to be if you're 0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:23.760 the FBI, like, wow, the NBA said, there's nothing to 0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:26.080 see here, and clearly there's a lot to see here. 0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:29.280 So we're going to we're going to rain on their parade. 0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:32.440 We're going to destroy opening week because this is now 0:31:32.480 --> 0:31:35.800 the big story. Like nobody's paying, you know, paying somewhat attention, 0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:37.720 but no one cares. I cared about the NBA, going wow, 0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:39.280 what the hell's going to the NBA? I mean, a 0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:43.040 huge black guy for the league could have done this 0:31:43.120 --> 0:31:46.719 weeks ago, probably before the season, preseason whatever, but they 0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:49.280 decided to drop it this week. I think that's in 0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:52.000 the message. I really really do that this is a 0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:54.680 lot bigger deal than the NBA. It's you know, hard 0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:56.760 to say that the NBA covers something up or look 0:31:56.800 --> 0:31:59.160 the other way. And I mean pretty clearly if you 0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:01.760 say there's nothing than to see here everything's good, and 0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:04.400 the FBI says no, there isn't and you've got you know, 0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:06.680 the mob involved for crying out loud and it's all 0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:10.680 tied together. That is clearly a shot across the bow 0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:13.440 of the National Basketball Association. I think the other thing too, 0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:17.120 is looking at this because now it's on trial, is 0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:20.000 the integrity of professional sports and the legal betting era. Right, 0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:22.200 It's like, oh, this is what happened. This is what happened. 0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:24.440 You have all these sports book and gaming sports, but 0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:28.200 see you could see this coming. Look it's not like 0:32:28.360 --> 0:32:31.360 cheating and point shaving. All this stuff is new. It 0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:36.040 just used to we'd still be doing this. It's not 0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:38.240 all like sports gambling would go away. You know when 0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:40.160 you're back in college back in the day, buddy, that 0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:43.120 what you had someone who's a bookie, you knew someone 0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:47.400 who knew somebody, okay, and you know, if there's enough money. 0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:50.800 But it's not like we haven't had a long history 0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:54.760 of people trying to fix games and matches since sports 0:32:55.240 --> 0:32:57.520 began in the United States, which in the early days, right, 0:32:57.600 --> 0:32:59.440 I'm pretty sure like when they're playing that weird game 0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:01.880 where they got a leather ox and ball and they're 0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:04.719 throwing it through the hoop on horseback with Indians, like, 0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:09.080 I'm sure somebody was betting on that, and then somebody 0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:10.760 was like fixing game, you know, boxing and all that 0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:12.920 stuff back in the day. So yeah, I don't know 0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:15.160 if I'm it's it's certainly more complextions a lot more 0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:18.400 money in it, because you're talking about one hundred and 0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:22.080 fifty billion dollars in legal bets just last year alone, 0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:24.840 huge amount of money, and somebody's going to skim some 0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:27.080 of that. I totally get it. But let's look at 0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:29.840 how they got caught for a second. So you had 0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:33.640 a better professional better I think, placed thirty wagers in 0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:39.000 less than an hour and all involving Terry Rozier. Do 0:33:39.040 --> 0:33:41.840 you remember a few years ago and the U see 0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:43.880 baseball team. I think you See Baseball is called no 0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:45.800 one from you See Baseball. I think was Charger got 0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:48.680 in trouble for it. But there's a guy who was 0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:50.880 a great American ballpark at the sportsbook there and it 0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:53.520 was putting as I recall, you may remember this better 0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:54.800 than I do, but I think it was pending like 0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:59.800 one hundred thousand dollars on an Alabama baseball game. I 0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:02.360 was like Alabama, Clemson or wherever it was, and he 0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:06.440 had inside information that the pitcher would be benched. So 0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:10.120 he's betting one hundred grand on that on college baseball. 0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:15.680 So in this case, you've got a guy betting a 0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:21.399 lot of money on Terry Rozier and that's just gonna 0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:23.400 set the algorithms go nuts. And it's not like they 0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:26.640 don't have people at all the sports books that are 0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:29.200 monitoring that behind the scenes and so obviously all electronics, 0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:33.759 but they're social media. Who's betting on what the prop bets? 0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:34.880 And do you look at this, you go, WHOA that 0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:36.839 jumps off the I mean, it's terror's here, right, So 0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:40.120 it jumps off the page. And that's where they start 0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:42.560 the investigation. Like the NBA couldn't figure that working with 0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:46.919 the sports books. That's what tells me this is why 0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:48.520 they did it when they did it. That could be 0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:50.359 wrong about that, but this is gonna be a black 0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:52.200 guy for the NBA for a long time. So as 0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:54.239 far as the integrity of professional sports go, I think 0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:56.839 you're this is going to be commonplace. I think maybe 0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:58.799 not happening all the time, but it's going to take 0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:01.920 an idiot like that, you know, like the the that 0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:06.600 Alabama guy with uc and at Great American Ballpark or 0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:08.920 this case, and every few years you're gonna have knuckle 0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:10.600 at doing this or somebody trying to do this. I'm 0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:13.520 gonna get cads can be a big story because they're 0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:17.360 so good at catching this stuff. Because again, this is 0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:19.680 not good, not good for the sports books. It makes 0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:21.920 them look really, really bad. So there's a more incentive 0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:25.120 them to to make sure they're moditning this at all times. 0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:27.239 I think it goes away. I think it's just something 0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:28.719 we're gonna live with. I don't think it's the end 0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:30.319 of sports or anything like that, like some people are 0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:32.000 making it out to be, Oh, this is what happens. Yeah, 0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:35.239 they downfalls non buying it. I really not. We'll get 0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:38.280 a news update Steve good Next, you fire the chief 0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:41.319 and then you look for the reasons to fire hers. 0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:43.919 It's making sense to you, does makes sense to him either, 0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:46.759 and he's an attorney's ready to go. We'll talk to 0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:48.600 him next after news on the Home of the Best 0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:54.759 Bengals coverage seven hundred WLWD Cincinnat. 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Too ridiculous at 0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:36.920 this point with the City of Cincinnati, and it's a 0:36:37.000 --> 0:36:40.520 leader after ad Pierre Valscher along the city manager in 0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:43.040 just more confusion and chaos. When we don't need it. 0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:45.520 Steve Goodness, here is a council candidate from a council member, 0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:50.239 attorney and charter right, and with his analysis here this morning, Steve, 0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:58.879 how are you, Steve? You there, Steve Gooden? Well wait wait, 0:36:58.920 --> 0:37:01.600 hold on, hold on, stam let's go there we go. 0:37:01.680 --> 0:37:04.200 We got you asked you yeah, yeah, yeah, first day 0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:06.040 on the new job, first day, and the new job 0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:11.239 for me, there's an irony here because it's the executive branch, 0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:13.400 it's law enforcement. The irony is, of course, there's no 0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:16.800 due process for the chief of police. This is conviction 0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:20.760 before being charged. And on that they even't even hired 0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:21.439 a law firm. 0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:22.200 Yet. 0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:24.160 How does this make any sense legally? 0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:26.840 Well it doesn't. 0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:29.680 I mean, look, you know, I've had employees, you know, 0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:34.520 for most of my career. And look, rule number one 0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:36.400 is if you've got the goods on somebody, you just 0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:40.120 go ahead and fire them, you know. And so the 0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:42.719 idea that here they said, hey, well we want you 0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:47.240 to resign. The charter clearly says that once the chief 0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:49.520 has served more than six months, she can only be 0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:53.399 fired for cause. So presumably, if they had any kind 0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:56.160 of cause or bad behavior on her part, that had 0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:58.399 been documented, they were just going ahead and fired her, 0:37:58.680 --> 0:37:59.920 and we wouldn't have this far. 0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:01.120 So now they're. 0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:05.080 Trying to create a ground, obviously, create grounds to fire 0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:08.080 her after the fact, after they've already sort of gone 0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:10.200 to her and asked her to resign. It is a 0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:14.160 morale killer. It's more politics that the rank and file 0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:17.800 see this. I talked to some officers yesterday who are 0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:20.279 just disgusted by how this is playing out. I mean, 0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:23.880 they're already short staff, morale was already bad. And I 0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:26.000 got to hand it to mayor and the council. They 0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:29.239 have done the impossible. They have taken a horrible situation 0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:31.879 and made it yet worse. I always thinking like, there's 0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:34.280 really no way it gets any worse. We have rampant 0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:38.000 gun violence, business is downtown, is scared in town. We 0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:41.480 literally have slats standing on Fountain Square. My offices right 0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:44.319 there was there yesterday. We don't really have a police chef. 0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:47.160 How could we make it worse? And also, you know, 0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:49.520 I've never seen a situation we're bringing a bunch of 0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:52.360 lawyers in. Billing by the hour makes anything better. I 0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:54.719 not say that as a lawyer who bills by the hour. 0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:56.440 It never makes things better. 0:38:57.520 --> 0:38:58.320 Here's a great example. 0:38:58.360 --> 0:38:58.840 It's terrible. 0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:01.800 See here's a scandal, the betting of the gambling scandal. 0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:05.640 Chauncey Billups. Okay, how it works all always is always deficient. 0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:07.759 Is all of a sudden, there's a bombshell, Hey, we're 0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:09.560 on a press count. Here's what's gonna happen. It's like, 0:39:09.640 --> 0:39:11.960 we caught all these players in the gambling scheme and 0:39:12.000 --> 0:39:14.240 at the mob's involved, and you have a press conference, 0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:16.319 you lay the charges out. On the other side says, oh, 0:39:16.360 --> 0:39:19.400 we deny, we deny, we deny. Uh. That's how you 0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:24.399 don't go, Hey, by the way, uh, Chauncey, we're going 0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:28.040 to we're gonna we're gonna do this, uh, and then 0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:29.799 go and find that we're not sure we believe they 0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:31.440 did this, and now we're gonna go and investigate it. 0:39:31.640 --> 0:39:34.040 It's it's completely backwards. You don't do that. You have 0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:37.040 the charges that they make, the presentation. You don't present 0:39:37.120 --> 0:39:40.160 and say we're gonna let we're Chauncey Billups, We're we're 0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:42.359 gonna suspend you, We're gonna come after, we're gonna charge you, 0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:43.960 but we're not going to tell you what it is. 0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:46.000 We've got to hire a team to do that, but 0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:48.720 we know you're guilty of something. It does, It doesn't 0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:51.640 even pass a sniff test for most people. It's insane, right, right. 0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:55.319 It's a fundamental, you know, violation of it, just even 0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:57.560 the most basic due process on her part. She can't 0:39:57.600 --> 0:40:00.360 answer the charges because she doesn't know what they are. 0:40:00.840 --> 0:40:03.319 Now we know from the mayor's comments that they're hanging 0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:05.400 all this on her quote in effectiveness. 0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:06.800 But what she's. 0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:11.120 Already telegraphed very strongly is I think she acknowledges she 0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:14.680 was uneffective, okay, because of the policies she was given 0:40:15.400 --> 0:40:19.440 an instructed to do. I mean, we know that city 0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:21.960 Hall and the mayor helped elect a set of judges 0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:24.960 over in the courthouse that really didn't believe in cash bail, 0:40:25.120 --> 0:40:28.840 so they were putting gun offenders back on the streets rapidly, 0:40:29.800 --> 0:40:32.719 and that that contributed to the frustration in the police department, 0:40:32.800 --> 0:40:35.239 and that she has clearly said that she went to 0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:38.040 the mayor to try to correct the situation and he refused. 0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:42.920 We also know that this whole bizarre compliance versus enforcement 0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:46.280 thing on lower level offenses came right from the city 0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:49.360 manager and the mayor now I fault the chief candidly 0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:52.440 for not pushing back more on that. So they stopped writing, 0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:56.439 you know, weed tickets, stopped pursuing graffiti issues, stopped dealing 0:40:56.520 --> 0:41:00.000 with the homeless situation downtown, and over time, the failure 0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:03.600 to prosecute or deal with these low level offenses created 0:41:03.640 --> 0:41:06.800 a sense of lawlessness that brought the real bad actors 0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:10.200 with guns downtown. So we've seen that. But calling her 0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:15.360 ineffective because your policies were ineffective, I mean, that's ridiculous 0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:17.719 and this just isn't the way you do things. So ok, 0:41:17.760 --> 0:41:19.840 I used to run a big law firm and there 0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:21.719 were a couple of different instances where we had young 0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:25.000 lawyers who had who had done bad things, and we 0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:27.000 did an investigation and then we went to them and 0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:27.600 laid it out. 0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:28.520 And so you either. 0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:30.600 Resign or get fired, and here are your options. And 0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:33.359 here's what we found. Unless you have some answer, that's 0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:35.799 how it works. This is they're trying to make up 0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:37.480 a reason to fire her after that. 0:41:37.600 --> 0:41:40.239 Forgets yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, And now we have a 0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:43.000 pattern of behavior, Steve Gooden, and when it's abuse of 0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:46.920 due process, let's go back to the July Street brawl 0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:49.200 where you had an individual white guy right who has 0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:51.399 started this whole thing allegedly, and then the city comes 0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:54.440 out and says, well, well, you know what, actually a 0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:57.640 minute forty six prior, they were the victim of some 0:41:57.800 --> 0:42:00.800 very extreme racial attacks and physical attacks and this was 0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:03.600 him bass So and you know, he had the ministers 0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:05.360 crying for Whitey to be charged all this stuff, and 0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:07.759 they do that and it's actually Adam Henny now the 0:42:07.800 --> 0:42:10.879 interim chief oddly enough, so you see there's some quid 0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:13.640 pro quote at least, and I'm not demeaning Chief Henny here. 0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:16.600 I understand it's a great cops cops cop, but again, 0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:20.000 playing the game is that now you cast dispersions on 0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:22.279 the integrity of the office, because like, if you're willing 0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:24.520 to write a ticket for something you didn't witness yourself, 0:42:24.560 --> 0:42:26.640 and the officers didn't want to get jammed up, and 0:42:26.680 --> 0:42:28.440 he said, I'll take the bullet from my officer so 0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:30.680 to speak, and write the citation that led to the charges. 0:42:32.520 --> 0:42:35.000 It's cut from the same cloth like, Okay, we're going 0:42:35.080 --> 0:42:38.160 to wait a month to charge someone, and pretty clearly 0:42:38.160 --> 0:42:40.319 it's someone who shouldn't be charged, but we're doing it 0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:44.399 because of political correctness and political expediency, just like we're 0:42:44.400 --> 0:42:45.640 doing now we have a trend now. 0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:50.080 Right Well yeah, I mean it's just what we've done 0:42:50.120 --> 0:42:53.560 here is just they're going to just undermines the sense 0:42:54.120 --> 0:42:56.200 of fairness and of law and order in the town. 0:42:56.320 --> 0:42:58.600 It really does look like the mayor and the city 0:42:58.600 --> 0:43:01.600 manager can say I want they charged, so they. 0:43:01.440 --> 0:43:02.440 Go back and charge them. 0:43:02.480 --> 0:43:05.400 Whether there's evidence or not, I don't know, but certainly 0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:08.160 you had a guy who an officer who signed the charge, 0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:10.400 who was not involved in the investigation, wasn't there, it 0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:13.600 hadn't interviewed the guy even apparently. And now you also 0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:16.680 have the scenario where they're saying, on these low level offenses, 0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:18.120 we don't want people charge. 0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:20.800 And how do you have a city that way. 0:43:21.320 --> 0:43:23.560 We have a charter that says our police chief and 0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:27.040 city manager is supposed to be independent above politics. They're 0:43:27.040 --> 0:43:29.560 supposed to be out there policing and do it, you know, working, 0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:32.480 going where the crime is, looking at real metrics and 0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:35.440 trying to figure out what to do. And that's what 0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:37.920 the neighborhoods are, you know, crying about, because I mean, 0:43:37.960 --> 0:43:40.719 I mean, we don't even trust I don't trust the 0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:43.800 data coming out of the police department in City Hall anymore. 0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:46.759 I think it's clearly been manipulated to make the gun 0:43:46.840 --> 0:43:49.880 violence look less. You know, from shots Boer, we're on 0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:52.439 track for twenty three thousand shots fire, but that isn't 0:43:52.480 --> 0:43:53.759 reflected in the other data. 0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:56.080 It's clear from the top right, I mean, the two examples. 0:43:56.080 --> 0:43:57.880 I game what you saided here too. It's like the 0:43:57.920 --> 0:44:01.000 mayor is deciding what justice looks like in I'm sorry, 0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:04.520 but I wonder about those people who would support AFTAB 0:44:04.560 --> 0:44:06.719 perval and a heartbeat who are down marching at the 0:44:06.760 --> 0:44:10.240 No Kings rally. Isn't this what you're allegedly fighting against? 0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:14.520 Well, I mean, I mean, it could not be more 0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:18.560 perfect of an analogy between Donald Trump and AFTAB. I mean, 0:44:18.600 --> 0:44:20.879 it's exactly the same thing. It's just, you know, they're 0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:23.759 on different sides of the aisle politically, you know, but 0:44:23.800 --> 0:44:26.640 there is this sense on both sides that they are 0:44:26.800 --> 0:44:30.520 like busting through some of the norms you know that 0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:33.080 we have out there. Is the critique people make of 0:44:33.719 --> 0:44:36.719 Donald Trump is exactly the same critique that could be 0:44:36.760 --> 0:44:38.880 made of AFTAB, which is somebody who really just doesn't 0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:41.360 plan with the rules and I would go a step further. 0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:43.440 I mean, the thing that makes me the sickest is 0:44:43.560 --> 0:44:45.480 we've had mayors in the past who have kind of 0:44:45.480 --> 0:44:49.239 lost their way, but we've always had some diversity of 0:44:49.320 --> 0:44:52.319 thought on city Council and some people with backbone that 0:44:52.320 --> 0:44:54.880 we're willing to push back. These guys have been with 0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:58.480 maybe one exception in the last twenty four hours, no 0:44:58.520 --> 0:45:00.640 one's done anything. I mean, in the the old days, 0:45:00.760 --> 0:45:03.359 you know, Chris Smitherman or a Steve Gutten or even 0:45:03.400 --> 0:45:05.800 maybe Alassie somewhere you know, or you called someone like 0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:08.000 that would have called for a hearing right a public 0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:10.000 here to say like what happened here? 0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:11.720 They bring the chief, and they. 0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:13.719 Bring the city manager in and say like, hey, look, 0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:16.360 you know, with the cameras on, tell us what the 0:45:16.400 --> 0:45:17.719 hell is going on here where? 0:45:17.760 --> 0:45:19.200 You know? And they wouldn't have. 0:45:19.160 --> 0:45:22.680 Just accepted this nonsense day in and day out. So 0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:25.520 there's a lack of oversight from council that really really 0:45:25.560 --> 0:45:27.560 makes this even worse, because I mean, they have a 0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:30.320 role in this process. They can you know, they have 0:45:30.440 --> 0:45:32.719 the ability to shine a flashlight here and they are 0:45:32.800 --> 0:45:33.880 hiding under their desks. 0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:35.960 But I would point out that we're being told to 0:45:36.000 --> 0:45:38.880 add at nauseam from after a peer of all in others, 0:45:38.920 --> 0:45:42.000 this is not political. She's not a political scapegoat. The 0:45:42.040 --> 0:45:44.680 election has nothing to do with the decision. The decisions 0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:48.040 we take public safetyes are number one priorities. We're taking 0:45:48.040 --> 0:45:50.640 it seriously. This is not political all. As a matter 0:45:50.640 --> 0:45:53.359 of fact, she's not even fired. She's on paid administrative leave. 0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:57.280 And there's another part of the of the absurdity Steve Gooden, 0:45:57.440 --> 0:46:00.600 is that, all right, Thigi's on paid administrative got fired, 0:46:00.680 --> 0:46:03.000 she's had administrative leader. She's still in the paycheck while 0:46:03.040 --> 0:46:04.960 we investigate her over the next one. It's going to 0:46:05.000 --> 0:46:08.920 take months, apparently to solved this. Then why name a 0:46:09.239 --> 0:46:13.600 interim chief instead of an acting chief. If you're suspended, 0:46:14.000 --> 0:46:16.799 it's an acting chief. Like if someone's hurt. You know, 0:46:16.880 --> 0:46:19.840 Joe Flacco is the acting starting quarterback, he is not 0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:23.200 the interim starting There's a difference in a nuance. There 0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:28.919 is interim chief not acting. They essentially have given it like, well, 0:46:29.040 --> 0:46:31.080 we're done with the old chief. This is the innermundile. 0:46:31.120 --> 0:46:33.080 We find a new one. They've already stated that, and 0:46:33.080 --> 0:46:34.680 then they go back and go, well, no, she just 0:46:34.680 --> 0:46:35.200 doesn't leave. 0:46:36.800 --> 0:46:39.400 Well, you know what's so funny is he actually slipped 0:46:39.480 --> 0:46:42.000 up at one of his you know, he was sort 0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:46.600 of ambushed coming out of council chambers yesterday and I 0:46:46.640 --> 0:46:48.040 think it was Channel twelve or one of the other 0:46:48.080 --> 0:46:51.759 reporters asked him, you know some pretty tough questions. He said, well, 0:46:51.760 --> 0:46:55.000 whenever we move on and change leadership at a tough time. 0:46:55.040 --> 0:46:57.000 And I said, okay, so you're firing her. Oh no, 0:46:57.080 --> 0:46:59.720 I'm not saying that. You just said we're changing leadership. 0:47:00.520 --> 0:47:02.439 And it was like, you know, you're like you can't 0:47:02.440 --> 0:47:03.080 even keep. 0:47:02.960 --> 0:47:07.160 Your your Live Street interim in acting for god, so 0:47:07.200 --> 0:47:08.799 you don't even know what the adjectives you mean at 0:47:08.800 --> 0:47:11.719 this point. It's so comically bad in the in the 0:47:11.760 --> 0:47:13.920 sad part about this is all right, it's going to 0:47:14.000 --> 0:47:16.080 go on in for a months, okay, so put your 0:47:16.120 --> 0:47:18.279 political hat on here. A second, good and from the 0:47:18.360 --> 0:47:24.000 legal one, Okay, after the election, what happens, well. 0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:26.880 You know after the election, I mean Louell first, unfortunately, 0:47:27.080 --> 0:47:29.120 I see this dragging into the next year. 0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:29.800 Uh. 0:47:29.840 --> 0:47:31.480 And I mean I think number one, what the first 0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:33.319 one we got to watch for is what law firm 0:47:33.360 --> 0:47:35.640 they choose. So if they choose one of the go 0:47:35.680 --> 0:47:39.520 to law firms that have represented AFTAB and council in 0:47:39.520 --> 0:47:41.120 the past, and they've gotten in trouble, we're going to 0:47:41.200 --> 0:47:45.080 know the fixes in you know, I we're hoping to 0:47:45.200 --> 0:47:47.080 go with someone outside the area, if you have some 0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:50.800 integrity here, who might actually push back. But I wouldn't 0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:52.960 hold my breath for that. So Number one is we 0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:55.840 got to watch which law firm. If it's one of 0:47:55.880 --> 0:47:59.719 these like hyper connected democratic law firms, you know, then 0:48:00.760 --> 0:48:03.640 all bets are off as to what happens there. But 0:48:03.719 --> 0:48:05.919 I would expect us to drag on at least through 0:48:05.920 --> 0:48:09.080 the end of the year with us having a suspended 0:48:09.200 --> 0:48:11.440 chief and an interim chief and then some sort of 0:48:11.440 --> 0:48:14.080 a search. If there was any integrity here, they'd wait 0:48:14.120 --> 0:48:15.919 and see what the new council is going to look 0:48:15.960 --> 0:48:18.480 like so that they could have some input. But my 0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:20.560 guess is that there's going to be like a hurry 0:48:20.640 --> 0:48:22.959 up to try to resolve all this in December before 0:48:22.960 --> 0:48:24.279 anybody can come in and shine a. 0:48:24.320 --> 0:48:24.759 Light on it. 0:48:25.160 --> 0:48:27.080 How much longer is she under contract? How much as 0:48:27.120 --> 0:48:28.400 you do? How long does that last? 0:48:29.760 --> 0:48:31.880 My understanding is, and I haven't read it, but my 0:48:31.960 --> 0:48:35.000 recollection is that they renew it every two years. And 0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:37.960 that is where this gets funny from a legal standpoint, 0:48:38.120 --> 0:48:40.560 is that if you recall, we have this thing called 0:48:41.320 --> 0:48:43.839 Issue five that was passed back from two thousand and five, 0:48:43.880 --> 0:48:47.440 which is deeply unpopular with the FOP and probably is ripe. 0:48:47.280 --> 0:48:48.160 To be revisited. 0:48:48.600 --> 0:48:51.120 That kind of takes the chief out of some of 0:48:51.200 --> 0:48:54.640 for or most of the civil service protections. So the 0:48:54.680 --> 0:48:56.959 idea is that the Sydney Manager, with input from the mayor, 0:48:57.000 --> 0:49:01.399 actually could just fire the chief for cause. And that's 0:49:01.440 --> 0:49:04.440 in the charter and it spells it out pretty clearly 0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:06.520 that once you're in the job six months, it's kind 0:49:06.520 --> 0:49:08.800 of a probationary period. Could be fired for any reason. 0:49:08.840 --> 0:49:11.040 After six months, they have to actually prove that you've 0:49:11.280 --> 0:49:12.200 screwed something. 0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:12.760 Up for cause. 0:49:14.120 --> 0:49:16.440 But they are, on top of that, have apparently been 0:49:16.480 --> 0:49:19.319 issuing these two year contracts that somehow, you know, deal 0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:21.920 with compensation and so forth, and apparently there's language in 0:49:21.960 --> 0:49:25.240 there that contradicts the Charter. So that's why she's lawyered 0:49:25.320 --> 0:49:26.799 up and there's going to be some sort of a 0:49:26.840 --> 0:49:29.680 court battle about what her rights really are. And even 0:49:29.719 --> 0:49:31.040 this is a mess. I don't know how the law 0:49:31.080 --> 0:49:33.640 department allowed this to happen where you have something in 0:49:33.680 --> 0:49:36.719 the contract that I guess the contract doesn't mention her 0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:39.200 being fired for cause, but yet the charter says she is. 0:49:39.239 --> 0:49:41.440 They're in conflict, and it's the classic sort of thing 0:49:41.440 --> 0:49:43.399 that you end up, I hate to say it, having 0:49:43.480 --> 0:49:46.719 lawyers fight out in court in the fact that we're 0:49:46.760 --> 0:49:48.840 here and that we've been kind of doing business this 0:49:48.920 --> 0:49:52.160 way for years, you know, is just terrible. And again 0:49:52.160 --> 0:49:54.640 the taxpayers lose. I mean, this is going to cost 0:49:54.760 --> 0:49:57.480 every bit of a million dollars or about the salary 0:49:57.520 --> 0:50:01.040 and benefits of five to six police officers the time 0:50:01.080 --> 0:50:02.040 this is all said and done. 0:50:02.239 --> 0:50:06.320 Yeah, he is a Steve Gooden counsel condidate, former councilman 0:50:06.360 --> 0:50:09.280 and a charter right Steve Gooden on the Ready Fire 0:50:09.360 --> 0:50:12.799 aim approach with Fiji. She is on paid administrative leave. 0:50:12.840 --> 0:50:16.200 They name an interim chief not acting interim, so there's 0:50:16.200 --> 0:50:18.239 confusion there. And now they're going to hire a law 0:50:18.239 --> 0:50:20.160 firm that could take months for them to investigate why 0:50:20.200 --> 0:50:23.560 they fired her in the first place. Yeah, that's that's 0:50:23.640 --> 0:50:25.960 real life. That's really happening in the city right now 0:50:25.960 --> 0:50:27.719 with an election happening by the way, in just a 0:50:27.719 --> 0:50:30.319 couple of weeks, and of course everyone is saying, I 0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:32.799 have to have on down. This is not political. Is 0:50:32.840 --> 0:50:34.759 it time for us to blow everything up? The way 0:50:34.760 --> 0:50:37.200 it works because we have a very inofficial if you 0:50:37.239 --> 0:50:39.239 live in Cincinnati, been here long til you kind of 0:50:39.239 --> 0:50:42.520 pay attention to it. But our government is so inefficient. 0:50:42.840 --> 0:50:45.400 And it starts the fact there's so much overlap between 0:50:45.440 --> 0:50:49.279 Hamlin County and the City of Cincinnati in fighting for 0:50:49.320 --> 0:50:51.800 their turf. Of course you see stadium issues and such, 0:50:52.480 --> 0:50:55.319 but even within the design itself. You know, you mentioned 0:50:55.360 --> 0:50:58.960 the contentious issue five, but also how council works, how 0:50:58.960 --> 0:51:01.280 the city manager in rates and all this stuff. Because 0:51:01.320 --> 0:51:04.239 there's cover for everyone involved. Her council can go, well, 0:51:04.280 --> 0:51:05.879 we have a strong mayor in the mayor goes, well, 0:51:05.920 --> 0:51:08.400 we've got a city manager, and the city manager says, well, 0:51:08.400 --> 0:51:10.160 we've got a mayor and a council. It's like no one, 0:51:10.280 --> 0:51:12.760 there's no one. The way we've got it wired right now, 0:51:13.040 --> 0:51:15.799 it strikes the average person like myself, Steve goodin that 0:51:16.480 --> 0:51:18.279 it's wired so there's no one accountable. 0:51:20.160 --> 0:51:22.319 Well, it's wired so that you end up with an 0:51:22.360 --> 0:51:25.920 absurd result and you know, and it would work. The 0:51:25.960 --> 0:51:29.319 current system would work. It's not perfect, but would work 0:51:29.480 --> 0:51:32.320 better if council would just step up, if we didn't 0:51:32.360 --> 0:51:34.600 have like a you know, an all a nine member 0:51:35.880 --> 0:51:38.960 politically ambitious Democratic city council who would actually step up 0:51:38.960 --> 0:51:40.720 and provide some of the oversight. 0:51:40.360 --> 0:51:41.640 That they are allowed to do. 0:51:41.760 --> 0:51:44.520 But I mean, to your larger point, I have always 0:51:44.560 --> 0:51:47.359 been somebody who has been pushing for at least some 0:51:47.480 --> 0:51:50.160 form of metro government so that we might actually find 0:51:50.200 --> 0:51:51.239 some of these efficiencies. 0:51:51.280 --> 0:51:52.640 I mean, even. 0:51:52.520 --> 0:51:56.480 Hyahoga County, even Cleveland has gone to a limited form 0:51:56.480 --> 0:52:01.200 of metro government, Indianapolis has, Louisville as I mean, it's 0:52:01.360 --> 0:52:04.080 it's ridiculous that we have all these turf battles. It's 0:52:04.160 --> 0:52:06.799 ridiculous that our departments don't work well together. And I 0:52:06.800 --> 0:52:09.520 mean back when I was in the prosecutors obviously as 0:52:09.520 --> 0:52:12.360 a young assistant prosecutor, back in two thousand and one, 0:52:13.080 --> 0:52:15.640 post to Timothy Thomas shooting and the riots that happened, 0:52:16.000 --> 0:52:20.520 we absolutely had a level of cooperation between the city 0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:22.560 and the county then that will be unheard of now. 0:52:22.640 --> 0:52:24.640 You know, we had Operation Vortex. You know they were 0:52:24.680 --> 0:52:29.600 doing gun and drug sweeps with CPD and Sheriff's patrols, 0:52:29.719 --> 0:52:32.920 I mean, and Ohio State Patrol and it was wonderful 0:52:32.920 --> 0:52:35.880 and it really made a difference. But now everyone is 0:52:35.920 --> 0:52:38.359 just in their silos and they don't cooperate at all, 0:52:38.760 --> 0:52:41.719 and it's really silly. And that's something that just desperately 0:52:41.800 --> 0:52:43.799 needs some fresh thought. And I can tell you this 0:52:43.880 --> 0:52:46.879 current crew or that's not where their head is. They're 0:52:46.920 --> 0:52:49.239 just all about protecting what they have rather than trying 0:52:49.239 --> 0:52:51.239 to look at what would actually serve the public bust. 0:52:51.400 --> 0:52:53.719 This is the maybe this is a catalyst for Steve. 0:52:53.760 --> 0:52:55.879 I don't know. I'm trying to be optimistic here. 0:52:55.920 --> 0:52:58.920 Well, well, I'm trying to be optimistic too, and I 0:52:58.960 --> 0:53:01.000 think another part of it is and I'm hoping this 0:53:01.120 --> 0:53:03.960 is the year and the time frame where some folks 0:53:03.960 --> 0:53:06.800 in the business community who I know have been talking 0:53:06.840 --> 0:53:10.040 for some time about metro government and substance of reforms. 0:53:10.080 --> 0:53:12.520 I know there's a working group down at the Chamber. 0:53:12.560 --> 0:53:15.600 It's very quiet that they've been looking at and studying 0:53:15.640 --> 0:53:18.000 and pushing these issues. And there's just got to come 0:53:18.000 --> 0:53:21.759 a time where we're not not just you know, the citizens, 0:53:21.840 --> 0:53:24.799 but the business community and all these other groups that 0:53:24.920 --> 0:53:26.640 kind of feed in, they have to speak up on 0:53:26.719 --> 0:53:28.960 this stuff too, I mean, because they have a right 0:53:29.040 --> 0:53:32.080 or wrong, a louder voice, and it's been very easy 0:53:32.120 --> 0:53:34.640 for them to kind of go along cynically and say, well, look, 0:53:34.680 --> 0:53:36.040 you know, I have to have very you know, he's 0:53:36.040 --> 0:53:38.560 going to win, it's a blue city, et cetera, et cetera, 0:53:39.040 --> 0:53:42.279 and just to go along to get along, and some 0:53:42.320 --> 0:53:44.080 people are going to have to stand up. I mean, 0:53:44.280 --> 0:53:46.960 you know, we've been our little group has been pretty 0:53:47.000 --> 0:53:49.680 fearless about speaking out on these issues this year. We've 0:53:50.520 --> 0:53:52.759 paid a price for it in terms of some lost 0:53:52.800 --> 0:53:57.239 friendships and broken business relationships. But that's fine. I mean, 0:53:57.280 --> 0:54:00.440 that's what it takes. We need more people to speak 0:54:00.520 --> 0:54:04.160 up and say this isn't working, we're not happy, we're 0:54:04.200 --> 0:54:06.879 not going to go along to get along. We need 0:54:07.000 --> 0:54:10.239 real substance of change, just at every step of the way. 0:54:10.400 --> 0:54:13.080 And it's just going to take some political courage and 0:54:13.239 --> 0:54:16.680 some personal courage, frankly, because you know, in this world 0:54:16.719 --> 0:54:20.360 of lobbyists and nonprofits and the people that really have 0:54:20.400 --> 0:54:22.319 a lot of voices at city hall, there's a lot 0:54:22.360 --> 0:54:25.120 of personal relationships and you have to be willing to 0:54:25.920 --> 0:54:27.320 just step on those at times if you're going to 0:54:27.400 --> 0:54:27.839 do the right thing. 0:54:27.920 --> 0:54:30.200 Gotch all right, he's a consul candidate, Steve Gooden. We'll 0:54:30.200 --> 0:54:32.720 see if this enacts any change. Probably not with the mayor, 0:54:32.840 --> 0:54:35.440 but I you know, ask others about the trickle down here, 0:54:35.440 --> 0:54:37.040 and I think it's I would think it's going to 0:54:37.080 --> 0:54:39.520 be substantial that somebody's going to pay for all this 0:54:39.600 --> 0:54:42.040 ineptitude that's happening at the hand of a f tab 0:54:42.120 --> 0:54:44.759 and cheer along and forts. It's probably gonna be some 0:54:44.800 --> 0:54:46.680 decent people on console for that matter. We'll see how 0:54:46.719 --> 0:54:49.640 it shakes out. Steve, all the best, and maybe you're 0:54:49.680 --> 0:54:51.840 part of that change, hopefully, and you can bring some 0:54:51.880 --> 0:54:54.480 of these ideas to fruition. All the best, man, have 0:54:54.520 --> 0:54:57.640 a great weekend. Thanks you two. Take care, take care. 0:54:57.680 --> 0:54:59.280 We got to get the news and we're in a return. 0:54:59.360 --> 0:55:01.320 We have fun because it's Friday. A little heavy for 0:55:01.320 --> 0:55:04.360 a Friday. I apologize. But the insanity what's happening in 0:55:04.440 --> 0:55:07.520 the city is it's unprecedented. It really really is. Austin 0:55:07.560 --> 0:55:11.240 Elmore from ESPN fifteen thirty jumps in. Next. We'll talk football, football, 0:55:11.280 --> 0:55:14.560 and more football, plus the NBA scandal the latest on 0:55:14.640 --> 0:55:20.200 that next seven hundred WW Scott Flund show. The music 0:55:20.280 --> 0:55:25.440 needs one thing orange synthesizers in Austin Elmore. That's what 0:55:25.480 --> 0:55:27.560 I think of when I hear this sees Austin More 0:55:27.600 --> 0:55:30.800 from ESPN fifteen thirty. Since he three sixty is the show? 0:55:31.000 --> 0:55:34.839 Tony Pike not anymore. It's not since he three sixty anymore? Wait, 0:55:34.880 --> 0:55:36.960 because he was fired for a week. Now we it's 0:55:37.040 --> 0:55:39.879 Tony Pikes since e three to sixty. Oh, Tony, what's 0:55:39.920 --> 0:55:41.640 the name of the show. How do you feel about 0:55:41.800 --> 0:55:44.719 being now relegated the fifth wheel and still the second 0:55:45.040 --> 0:55:46.040 My exact. 0:55:45.680 --> 0:55:49.120 Words to management were, I'm pissed about this. Yeah, and 0:55:49.160 --> 0:55:52.640 they said life's not fair. That's what they told you. 0:55:52.760 --> 0:55:58.440 Yeah, Oh okay, good, Well guess what. They're not wrong. 0:55:58.680 --> 0:56:01.000 You're You're on You're right now, You're on this show 0:56:01.000 --> 0:56:08.680 on l W. And Tony's not about that. On the 0:56:08.680 --> 0:56:10.799 other hand, he's going to be inducted to the UC 0:56:10.960 --> 0:56:13.760 Hall of Fame later today. I know. I am looking 0:56:13.800 --> 0:56:15.799 forward to that. It's before it. I'll have later out 0:56:15.800 --> 0:56:18.040 of the show to talk. It's a great weekend though, 0:56:18.040 --> 0:56:20.120 because like the Pike's doing that and you've got lap 0:56:20.160 --> 0:56:20.520 going in. 0:56:20.600 --> 0:56:23.279 It's it's awesome. And the weather it looks like it's 0:56:23.320 --> 0:56:25.080 going to be pretty good. I love a four o'clock 0:56:25.120 --> 0:56:27.759 start at Nippert. That's going to be beautiful. I'm come up 0:56:27.760 --> 0:56:30.720 against Baylor. Yeah, it's it's gonna be a fun weekend. 0:56:30.719 --> 0:56:33.040 I have a hankering to go to the Bengals game. 0:56:33.560 --> 0:56:35.440 I don't know why, but like, I really just want 0:56:35.440 --> 0:56:38.040 to go. You know, I know why. You just expected 0:56:38.040 --> 0:56:40.400 it to be a beatdown. No, I don't, No, I don't. 0:56:40.520 --> 0:56:42.560 I don't expect that. Well, let's jump into that. Let's 0:56:42.560 --> 0:56:44.560 start before we get into all that stuff. First of all, 0:56:44.880 --> 0:56:48.560 reaction to the NBA scandal yesterday. I'll give you my 0:56:48.680 --> 0:56:51.480 take whatever that might be on it. But I'm curious 0:56:51.520 --> 0:56:54.120 this thing holds it And I've just talked about this. 0:56:54.800 --> 0:56:58.240 To me, it's not that a broke, it's when it broke, Yeah, 0:56:58.640 --> 0:57:01.160 right after the start of the season, like the day after. 0:57:01.200 --> 0:57:03.799 It overshadowed Opening Day basically so well. 0:57:03.840 --> 0:57:06.239 And I think what we've learned so far already is 0:57:06.239 --> 0:57:08.879 that the NBA knew about this and swept it under 0:57:08.920 --> 0:57:09.239 the rug. 0:57:09.320 --> 0:57:11.600 And that tells me the Trump administration said, watch this 0:57:11.840 --> 0:57:14.400 we're going to ruin opening week maybe because it's been 0:57:14.440 --> 0:57:16.840 going on for years, Why do it that day? Well, 0:57:17.280 --> 0:57:17.880 I don't know. 0:57:18.480 --> 0:57:21.760 And obviously there's this belief that Gilbert Arenas, who was 0:57:22.240 --> 0:57:26.160 the first arrest in this, snitched on everybody back in July. 0:57:26.880 --> 0:57:29.080 And so you could say that, Okay, well, over the 0:57:29.120 --> 0:57:31.640 last couple of months, they've been getting their p's and 0:57:31.720 --> 0:57:34.000 q's in order and getting this case strong so that 0:57:34.080 --> 0:57:36.640 they can go and you know, do this whole thing. Ye, 0:57:37.080 --> 0:57:39.560 Or you can say they knew this whole time what 0:57:39.680 --> 0:57:41.080 was going to happen, and so we're going to do 0:57:41.080 --> 0:57:41.959 it to ruin the NBA. 0:57:42.520 --> 0:57:42.880 Maybe. 0:57:42.920 --> 0:57:45.200 So I don't know that it matters that much as 0:57:45.280 --> 0:57:47.760 much as the truth matters here, and the truth is 0:57:47.800 --> 0:57:51.160 that the NBA has a gambling problem. This is not 0:57:51.280 --> 0:57:54.800 the first time that this has happened. And you know, 0:57:55.240 --> 0:57:57.560 you don't see this issue in the NFL. 0:57:57.720 --> 0:57:58.040 Nope. 0:57:58.080 --> 0:58:00.640 You've started to see it a little bit in Major Baseball. 0:58:00.680 --> 0:58:03.200 You don't see it in hockey. You haven't seen it 0:58:03.240 --> 0:58:06.400 at the college level to this point. The NBA has 0:58:06.440 --> 0:58:08.880 an issue specifically with this, and I think part of 0:58:08.880 --> 0:58:11.760 it is you play eighty two games, there's so many 0:58:11.840 --> 0:58:15.120 singular prop bets. There's so many different ways to manipulate it. 0:58:15.200 --> 0:58:18.000 But the sports books know, and the sports books knew 0:58:18.040 --> 0:58:22.080 about Terry Rozier right away, and the NBA came up 0:58:22.080 --> 0:58:24.880 with this fake injury and he stopped playing, and they 0:58:24.960 --> 0:58:26.760 knew about it and swept it under the rug. Come 0:58:26.760 --> 0:58:28.920 to find out, it goes deeper with ties to a 0:58:28.960 --> 0:58:32.920 crime family and high stakes poker games and these elite 0:58:33.040 --> 0:58:36.280 level boards and sunglasses. 0:58:35.520 --> 0:58:39.960 And a car table X ray table. I'm going to 0:58:40.000 --> 0:58:43.080 Watson's like. 0:58:43.360 --> 0:58:47.520 It goes so deep, and it's just it's not a 0:58:47.560 --> 0:58:49.200 good thing for the NBA. 0:58:49.480 --> 0:58:52.400 It's not And here's that. And that's why I think 0:58:52.520 --> 0:58:55.840 is like the NBA did investigation on Rogier, right, It's like, oh, 0:58:55.840 --> 0:58:57.760 it had nothing to see here, And then the FBI 0:58:57.840 --> 0:59:00.520 is probably saying they're like, yeah, now the FB like 0:59:00.560 --> 0:59:03.200 did they were they incompetent investigation or did they just 0:59:03.240 --> 0:59:05.400 simply go, hey, man, the money's rolling in. We don't 0:59:05.400 --> 0:59:07.880 want to we don't need controversy. And I think that's 0:59:07.920 --> 0:59:11.240 why they did this the day after in an overshadowed 0:59:11.320 --> 0:59:13.760 opening week. It took all the steam out of that 0:59:13.800 --> 0:59:15.800 engine that the big build up for the NBA season, 0:59:15.920 --> 0:59:17.680 and I think that was to send a message and 0:59:17.760 --> 0:59:18.600 politics aside. 0:59:18.640 --> 0:59:20.560 I have no problem with that because there is no 0:59:20.680 --> 0:59:23.160 place because I love the NBA. I watched the NBA. 0:59:23.600 --> 0:59:25.960 There's no place for that, and you've got to get 0:59:25.960 --> 0:59:27.560 it buttoned up. This is one of the concerns that 0:59:27.560 --> 0:59:30.600 people had from the very beginning. So the NBA is 0:59:30.880 --> 0:59:33.480 I'm sure feeling the pressure from the sports books in 0:59:33.480 --> 0:59:35.640 and of itself, and they're probably like, Hey, aren't you 0:59:35.640 --> 0:59:37.680 gonna do anything about this? And they're like, no, we're good. 0:59:37.920 --> 0:59:40.880 Well it's like, hello, you're messing with our business. So 0:59:40.920 --> 0:59:42.800 then you get the FBI involved. I'm sure the other 0:59:42.880 --> 0:59:45.960 leagues are not happy with the NBA two because now 0:59:46.040 --> 0:59:48.280 doubt starts to creep into everything that had Yeah. 0:59:48.320 --> 0:59:50.120 Well, and I think the other element is people are 0:59:50.120 --> 0:59:52.600 making this is the in the integrity of sports with 0:59:52.720 --> 0:59:55.520 gambling and college like you've always had that, you're still 0:59:55.560 --> 0:59:58.000 gonna have it. And look at how he got caught right, 0:59:58.040 --> 1:00:00.600 it was it was a professional gambler. It's putting all 1:00:00.640 --> 1:00:04.200 this money in Rogier that basically betting the under knowing 1:00:04.240 --> 1:00:06.240 that he was going to leave the game, and it 1:00:06.360 --> 1:00:08.640 set off all these signals are off of the sports 1:00:08.640 --> 1:00:11.240 books and kind of like remember the UC scandal what 1:00:11.360 --> 1:00:14.120 you see was named in it with the Alabama baseball coach. 1:00:14.200 --> 1:00:16.240 Sure that happened the summer at GABP. I was just 1:00:16.240 --> 1:00:17.960 talking about that going It's the same thing. Were like, 1:00:18.120 --> 1:00:21.240 this guy put one hundred thousand dollars on an Alabama 1:00:21.280 --> 1:00:23.760 baseball game for the picture for them to way because 1:00:23.760 --> 1:00:25.840 they knew the starting pitcher was gonna eat pinch. It's like, 1:00:26.080 --> 1:00:28.000 it's what else is new? 1:00:28.160 --> 1:00:28.360 Right? 1:00:28.440 --> 1:00:31.280 So anyway, let's move on to football. You see Tony 1:00:31.320 --> 1:00:34.720 Pike Day at at Nipperts Stadium as home coming, and 1:00:34.800 --> 1:00:36.680 of course normally we talk about Baylor, we think about 1:00:36.680 --> 1:00:39.840 the NCAA tournament and basketball, not so much with football. 1:00:40.200 --> 1:00:42.200 I will say though, that you look at their record 1:00:42.240 --> 1:00:43.800 and you look it up, they're still putting up with 1:00:43.840 --> 1:00:47.120 thirty six points, so you know, and UC's defense is 1:00:47.280 --> 1:00:50.480 certainly not the best it's ever been. High scoring game. 1:00:50.520 --> 1:00:53.280 You think on something, I think you see defenses a 1:00:53.360 --> 1:00:57.000 work in progress, and they're an entirely different defense without 1:00:57.120 --> 1:00:59.880 Dante Corleone on the field, and they have to do 1:00:59.920 --> 1:01:03.120 a better job of adjusting because teams are taking advantage 1:01:03.120 --> 1:01:05.200 of that defense when he's not on the field. And 1:01:05.560 --> 1:01:08.240 Baylor specifically as one of the best passing offenses in 1:01:08.320 --> 1:01:11.560 the NFL or in the in the country in college football, 1:01:11.600 --> 1:01:14.520 So they are going to try to air it out. 1:01:14.560 --> 1:01:16.760 They're gonna try to use play action, They're gonna try 1:01:16.760 --> 1:01:19.640 to get those linebackers out of position, and it's not 1:01:19.760 --> 1:01:21.480 it's gonna be a challenge for you. 1:01:21.560 --> 1:01:24.200 Six Saturday. 1:01:24.240 --> 1:01:27.000 Brendan Sowersby is playing like one of the best quarterbacks 1:01:27.000 --> 1:01:29.960 in the country eighteen to one touchdown to interception ratio. 1:01:30.000 --> 1:01:32.280 He's been able to move the ball with his feet 1:01:32.400 --> 1:01:34.840 outside the pocket. He's finally got weapons that he can 1:01:34.840 --> 1:01:37.960 get the ball to on the outside. They're they're playing 1:01:38.000 --> 1:01:40.800 as good as they have under Scott's sadderfield altogether. I 1:01:40.800 --> 1:01:43.000 think their special teams has been pretty solid as well. 1:01:43.080 --> 1:01:48.080 So Bearcats are favored. I expect them to win. And yeah, 1:01:48.080 --> 1:01:50.000 it's gonna be a fun weekend with Tony going into 1:01:50.000 --> 1:01:52.120 the Hall of Fame tonight and a few others and 1:01:52.200 --> 1:01:55.280 they're all being honored and there's a big parade tomorrow 1:01:55.320 --> 1:01:57.120 before the game as well that Tony's gonna be the 1:01:57.160 --> 1:01:59.800 Grand Marshagans they're taking. 1:02:01.360 --> 1:02:06.720 It's in front of day Open giant inflatable, real size 1:02:06.720 --> 1:02:09.320 Tony Pike head. Well, I don't know if they make 1:02:09.360 --> 1:02:09.880 them that big. 1:02:11.000 --> 1:02:11.120 Uh. 1:02:11.240 --> 1:02:14.160 And speaking of honoring people, are Tony Pike and our 1:02:14.240 --> 1:02:16.360 Dave Lapham gets it on Sunday a ring of honor 1:02:17.760 --> 1:02:19.520 and the three and four Bengals trying to get to 1:02:19.560 --> 1:02:22.520 an even five hundred six and a half point favorites 1:02:22.840 --> 1:02:25.120 the dog of the league, the New York Football Jets 1:02:25.160 --> 1:02:28.040 are in with their oh to seven record, and you know, 1:02:28.080 --> 1:02:29.600 you look at it on page it's a it's a 1:02:29.600 --> 1:02:32.920 total mismatch, especially considering the injuries that a bad Jets 1:02:32.920 --> 1:02:33.880 team has on top of this. 1:02:34.480 --> 1:02:34.600 Uh. 1:02:34.680 --> 1:02:37.560 But nonetheless it's still an seven team. It's cornering an 1:02:37.600 --> 1:02:41.000 injured dog, so to speak. You gotta watch out. Yeah. 1:02:41.040 --> 1:02:43.880 And historically the Bengals, coming off of the quote unquote 1:02:43.920 --> 1:02:46.439 many bye are not very good. I believe they've lost 1:02:46.560 --> 1:02:50.439 nine straight games following a Thursday game over the last 1:02:50.440 --> 1:02:53.360 ten seasons. Now, in their last ten Thursday games, they're 1:02:53.400 --> 1:02:55.040 six and four, So they've been good at that, but 1:02:55.080 --> 1:02:57.160 they've almost always followed it up with the loss. They 1:02:57.200 --> 1:03:00.120 have to avoid that against the Jets. On Sunday. My 1:03:00.160 --> 1:03:02.520 biggest issue with the Bengals right now is even if 1:03:02.560 --> 1:03:04.600 the Jets are hurt, and even if they're zero and seven, 1:03:04.600 --> 1:03:06.440 and even if you don't know who their quarterback is, 1:03:07.000 --> 1:03:11.120 if you don't tackle, you will get beat. Like their 1:03:11.120 --> 1:03:13.080 defense is good enough to keep them in the game 1:03:13.400 --> 1:03:16.440 even with the injuries, but you have got to get 1:03:16.560 --> 1:03:20.560 your defense off the field. If you're the Bengals. What 1:03:20.600 --> 1:03:22.480 are the three biggest issues with the Bengals. They have 1:03:22.480 --> 1:03:25.200 a bad offensive line, they have a bad defensive line, 1:03:25.800 --> 1:03:28.880 and they can't tackle. It doesn't matter who you play 1:03:28.880 --> 1:03:31.840 in the National Football League. Those three things will get 1:03:31.880 --> 1:03:32.240 you beat. 1:03:32.400 --> 1:03:32.680 Got it? 1:03:32.800 --> 1:03:35.680 So the offensive line trending in the right direction, defensive 1:03:35.680 --> 1:03:37.960 line you think will be better with Trey hendrickson coming back. 1:03:38.240 --> 1:03:40.600 You have got to tackle or you will lose. You 1:03:40.640 --> 1:03:43.640 can't overlook this game. You can't start looking ahead to Chicago. 1:03:44.080 --> 1:03:46.360 You can't have a hangover after you beat the Steelers 1:03:46.360 --> 1:03:49.080 on a Thursday night. Hopefully a normal week with the 1:03:49.080 --> 1:03:51.600 Bengals offense and with Joe Flacco and maybe a little 1:03:51.600 --> 1:03:53.760 bit of clarity on what this defense wants to do 1:03:53.800 --> 1:03:55.960 and if they're a little healthier, can mean that the 1:03:55.960 --> 1:03:58.320 Bengals start to turn it in the right direction. But 1:03:58.920 --> 1:04:02.360 those things, especially the tackling the last two weeks nineteen 1:04:02.440 --> 1:04:05.640 misstackles against the Green Bay Packers, double digits again against 1:04:05.680 --> 1:04:10.080 the Pittsburgh Steelers. That cannot happen. That is a red 1:04:10.120 --> 1:04:12.400 flag for the Bengals. Cray is limited with the hip. 1:04:12.560 --> 1:04:15.200 Does it make sense that you could still win this 1:04:15.280 --> 1:04:17.919 game with Shamar and there? I mean, granted, now he's 1:04:18.000 --> 1:04:20.000 not played up to where he should be or expected 1:04:20.000 --> 1:04:22.320 being even by those admission he hasn't either. But it 1:04:22.360 --> 1:04:24.440 feels to me, with the limited weapons that they have, 1:04:24.600 --> 1:04:26.520 and now Tyrod Taylor, who's going to be a pocket, 1:04:26.680 --> 1:04:29.040 it seems to me like you can win without Trey. 1:04:28.840 --> 1:04:29.320 Being in there. 1:04:29.440 --> 1:04:31.400 Yeah, you would think so, or if this makes sense 1:04:31.480 --> 1:04:34.160 to rest him again, I don't know that I would 1:04:34.200 --> 1:04:36.960 do that. Trey will want to play and part of 1:04:37.000 --> 1:04:42.040 his contract involves playtime, so him missing one game, he's 1:04:42.040 --> 1:04:44.720 not going to want to do that. But at the 1:04:44.760 --> 1:04:46.680 bare minimum, I would like to see him in at 1:04:46.680 --> 1:04:49.680 pass rushing downs. You know, much like the Packers at 1:04:49.680 --> 1:04:51.920 the beginning of the season with Michael Parsons, he had 1:04:51.960 --> 1:04:53.960 that back injury. He only really came out on the 1:04:54.000 --> 1:04:56.640 field on third downs, third and five or longer. And 1:04:56.720 --> 1:04:59.240 so maybe we'll see that type of thing from Trey 1:04:59.240 --> 1:05:03.440 Hendrickson and redoce that workload a little bit, because Shamar 1:05:03.560 --> 1:05:05.200 needs more reps and I give him a little bit 1:05:05.200 --> 1:05:07.600 of grace coming off the ankle injury against the Steelers 1:05:07.680 --> 1:05:10.560 last week, but he's got to start making some noise. 1:05:10.800 --> 1:05:11.920 Nobody else really is now. 1:05:11.960 --> 1:05:15.200 I will say this, Joseph Osai has really ticked up 1:05:15.200 --> 1:05:17.240 over the last couple of games. He's starting to trend 1:05:17.240 --> 1:05:19.400 in the right direction. One of the league leaders in 1:05:19.440 --> 1:05:22.720 pressures right now. So if Osai can stay consistent much 1:05:22.760 --> 1:05:24.880 like he was the final five games of last year 1:05:25.320 --> 1:05:27.840 with Trey, with Shamar, you might start to have something. 1:05:27.840 --> 1:05:29.480 You're gonna have to run game. I have a run game. 1:05:29.520 --> 1:05:32.200 Mean, Chase Brown put up ridiculous numbers last week. Didn't 1:05:32.200 --> 1:05:33.720 No one saw that comings They've been so bad all 1:05:33.800 --> 1:05:37.000 year and then just absolutely flashes. You probably don't have 1:05:37.040 --> 1:05:39.840 to put that kind of performance in simply because mentioned 1:05:39.880 --> 1:05:41.760 the injury bug. I was kind of looking forward to 1:05:41.760 --> 1:05:45.200 seeing Sauce against our number ones, right Chase on twenty 1:05:45.240 --> 1:05:46.920 twenty two, when he came in the league. It's like, here, 1:05:46.960 --> 1:05:49.680 do you see guy homecoming weekend and be a great story. 1:05:49.880 --> 1:05:52.200 He comes in, he shut Chase down last time, while 1:05:52.200 --> 1:05:54.320 he do it again this week, so he is out. 1:05:56.240 --> 1:05:59.240 You look at their secondary, the guy I will forget 1:05:59.280 --> 1:06:04.200 what his name, other corner he's got to I think 1:06:04.240 --> 1:06:06.560 he's gonna play. They're so banged up. But the point 1:06:06.600 --> 1:06:07.880 is he's just gonna air the ball out. I mean, 1:06:07.880 --> 1:06:09.840 you can need a little run game to balance with Flacco, 1:06:09.920 --> 1:06:12.000 but yeah, he's just gonna pass them, cut them up. 1:06:12.120 --> 1:06:14.160 I would expect the Bengals to try to keep it 1:06:14.240 --> 1:06:17.160 going with that, that run game that they found against Pittsburgh. 1:06:17.240 --> 1:06:18.960 I think they want to really double down on that 1:06:19.040 --> 1:06:21.640 and establish that because you can see how that opens 1:06:21.720 --> 1:06:24.080 up the rest of the offense. And the Bengals had 1:06:24.080 --> 1:06:27.080 a big tendency breaker against the Steelers, which is when 1:06:27.080 --> 1:06:29.280 they went under center, they did a couple I think 1:06:29.440 --> 1:06:33.840 four straight drop back passes, which means when they're under center, 1:06:34.120 --> 1:06:36.280 previously it was either they run the ball or they 1:06:36.280 --> 1:06:39.840 play action. Now two step, three step drop ball out 1:06:39.840 --> 1:06:41.800 of the hands of Joe Flacco. Defenses had to be 1:06:41.840 --> 1:06:44.560 prepared for that. That opens up parts of the offense 1:06:44.560 --> 1:06:47.160 as well, and it especially opens up parts of that 1:06:47.280 --> 1:06:50.000 run game. I saw some creativity in that run game. 1:06:50.040 --> 1:06:52.919 I saw some execution. Dalton Reisner at left guard. Don't 1:06:52.920 --> 1:06:56.240 know if he's going to start. Zach Taylor hasn't said 1:06:56.560 --> 1:06:59.400 going to be, but Dalton Reisner over the course of 1:06:59.400 --> 1:07:02.640 his career has played left guard more and he looked 1:07:02.640 --> 1:07:05.919 a lot more comfortable there against the Pittsburgh and good 1:07:06.160 --> 1:07:09.360 correct So I could see Zach Taylor saying, Okay, I'm 1:07:09.360 --> 1:07:11.640 gonna stick with what's working here. If we're able to 1:07:11.720 --> 1:07:15.080 run the ball effectively with this grouping, let's stick with 1:07:15.160 --> 1:07:16.400 that and see how it goes. 1:07:16.480 --> 1:07:17.160 Now, are they do? 1:07:17.160 --> 1:07:19.160 They have a short leash like Jalen Rivers who is 1:07:19.160 --> 1:07:22.440 struggling in pass protection, maybe especially if there's a situation 1:07:22.440 --> 1:07:25.240 where the Bengals have to throw the ball. But I 1:07:25.280 --> 1:07:28.320 think Zach will lean into that run game to try 1:07:28.360 --> 1:07:31.960 to really get some confidence and some consistency in that 1:07:32.080 --> 1:07:34.880 unit going, and then that will open up the pass game, 1:07:35.160 --> 1:07:36.360 much like you saw against. 1:07:36.080 --> 1:07:39.360 Yea and Dylan Fairshat and always hurt coming back off 1:07:39.360 --> 1:07:42.040 that and what pieces he puts together for for this 1:07:42.200 --> 1:07:44.080 Jets game. But he has options there as they start 1:07:44.080 --> 1:07:46.560 to hopefully it looks like they're turning the corner. But 1:07:46.560 --> 1:07:48.480 the Jets, you know, as a bad team to begin with, 1:07:48.560 --> 1:07:50.960 you got you got Tyrod Taylor in there. You don't 1:07:50.960 --> 1:07:53.000 have to worry about Justin Field's running all over you. 1:07:53.080 --> 1:07:54.880 Tyrod's gonna be a pocket guy at this state of 1:07:54.880 --> 1:07:57.520 the game. Joe Flacco gets to play another old quarterback. 1:07:59.000 --> 1:08:02.760 They were teammates fourteen years ago. It's insane in twenty 1:08:02.840 --> 1:08:05.600 eleven to Rod Taylor and Joe Flacco were teammates with 1:08:05.640 --> 1:08:09.040 the Baltimore Ravens. Isn't that crazy that they're both still 1:08:09.080 --> 1:08:11.200 doing it? Yeah, they really are. Yeah, but you don't 1:08:11.200 --> 1:08:12.880 want to look past it. They're owing seven like you 1:08:12.880 --> 1:08:13.440 should die. 1:08:13.440 --> 1:08:16.120 And I think the message from from Zach Taylor should 1:08:16.160 --> 1:08:18.800 be this week, Hey, all the crap that we've went 1:08:18.840 --> 1:08:20.960 to went through, and we're going to getting forty year 1:08:20.960 --> 1:08:23.639 old quarterback and Joe Burrow is still hurt. We still 1:08:23.640 --> 1:08:25.640 have a chance to be five hundred and two and 1:08:25.720 --> 1:08:29.160 zero in our division at home over the next couple 1:08:29.200 --> 1:08:30.920 of weeks, and we can get the five hundred before 1:08:30.960 --> 1:08:33.280 the bye. That should be the message. Everything you want 1:08:33.400 --> 1:08:35.479 is still right in front of you. And I think 1:08:35.680 --> 1:08:38.640 the confidence of going and beating the Pittsburgh Steelers, the 1:08:38.680 --> 1:08:41.519 way that they played in that second half against Green Bay. 1:08:41.680 --> 1:08:44.160 I think this team has more confidence now than they've 1:08:44.160 --> 1:08:47.040 had at any point since Burrow got hurt, and that 1:08:47.160 --> 1:08:49.120 I think is a good thing. But you just want 1:08:49.160 --> 1:08:51.840 to avoid that hangover and say, okay, listen, you got 1:08:51.880 --> 1:08:53.400 to get to four and four so that you have 1:08:53.439 --> 1:08:55.200 a chance to get to five and four before the bid. 1:08:55.439 --> 1:08:57.400 Chicago is a good team. We'll talk about that next week. 1:08:57.439 --> 1:08:58.320 That could be the trap there. 1:08:58.520 --> 1:09:01.080 But that's the thing is you're gonna play a lot 1:09:01.080 --> 1:09:02.760 of good teams between now at the end of the season. 1:09:02.840 --> 1:09:05.920 There's a stretch there with Buffalo and Baltimore twice and 1:09:06.000 --> 1:09:09.120 New England is really coming on strong. So these games 1:09:09.160 --> 1:09:11.960 are very, very very important if you're continuing to try 1:09:11.960 --> 1:09:13.360 to buy some time for Joe Burrow. 1:09:13.400 --> 1:09:15.599 We're also heading close to the trade deadline, and I 1:09:15.640 --> 1:09:17.400 you know, bring up the Logan Wilson thing and every 1:09:17.479 --> 1:09:19.920 year you have teams at the and I get it, man, 1:09:19.960 --> 1:09:22.240 you know, here's a guy, he's what is late twenties, 1:09:22.280 --> 1:09:25.160 twenty nine, I think, and he wants to play and 1:09:25.360 --> 1:09:27.160 they got rookies in there, he's not playing, and so 1:09:27.200 --> 1:09:29.280 he had played. They sat him at Green Bay last week, 1:09:29.320 --> 1:09:31.920 and you're looking for a new home, so you know, 1:09:32.280 --> 1:09:33.720 I know that a lot has been made. I don't 1:09:33.760 --> 1:09:35.920 think that's controversial. I think that's just the NFL and 1:09:35.960 --> 1:09:37.000 he'll end up somewhere else. 1:09:37.200 --> 1:09:38.640 Yeah, there's a lot of guys that have asked for 1:09:38.640 --> 1:09:41.959 trades over the last couple of years with the Bengals, 1:09:41.960 --> 1:09:43.960 and none of them have gotten traded. So I don't 1:09:43.960 --> 1:09:46.479 know that it means all that much. It's a smart 1:09:46.520 --> 1:09:48.680 move for him because you're two weeks out of the 1:09:48.680 --> 1:09:51.760 trade deadline and they clearly don't plan on playing you 1:09:51.840 --> 1:09:55.120 a significant amount. And there are some linebacker needy teams 1:09:55.120 --> 1:09:57.840 out there, the Dallas Cowboys, the forty nine ers. You 1:09:57.920 --> 1:09:59.640 obviously think of the fit of him and Louen or 1:09:59.680 --> 1:10:04.040 Rumo in Indianapolis. There are some other teams out there that, Okay, 1:10:04.080 --> 1:10:06.400 they might pick up the phone and call for Logan Wilson, 1:10:06.680 --> 1:10:08.920 But the Bengals, as far as I'm concerned, the depth 1:10:08.960 --> 1:10:11.439 at that position is still a major issue. You know, 1:10:11.560 --> 1:10:15.320 outside of Logan Wilson, it's Shaka Hayward and Orrin Burks, 1:10:15.360 --> 1:10:16.960 and you don't really want to have to turn to 1:10:17.000 --> 1:10:18.280 those guys in the biggest moments. 1:10:18.320 --> 1:10:22.240 Austin Elmore today ESPN fifteenth thirty, Tony Pike, since E 1:10:22.360 --> 1:10:24.720 three Tony Pikes, since he three to sixty. I'm just 1:10:24.720 --> 1:10:26.479 gonna call it since E three six. Thanks man, you 1:10:26.560 --> 1:10:29.800 got it starring Austin Elmore. Yeah, today at noon, my guy, 1:10:30.520 --> 1:10:33.560 the home of the best Bengals coverage seven hundred WW Cincinnati. 1:10:35.360 --> 1:10:37.760 It's got a flum show on seven hundred WLW. The 1:10:37.840 --> 1:10:41.800 National Football League it is a monster, and that I 1:10:42.120 --> 1:10:45.400 think really diminishes what it is. I wish I could 1:10:45.400 --> 1:10:48.360 come up with a better adjective because I think about it, 1:10:48.360 --> 1:10:51.200 you know, yea, how big soccer is in racing and tennis, 1:10:51.240 --> 1:10:54.160 and the NFL generates more revenue than any other league 1:10:54.200 --> 1:10:57.040 in the world, and it's nearly all domestic if you 1:10:57.080 --> 1:11:00.400 think about it. As far as TV shows go. NFL 1:11:00.439 --> 1:11:02.680 counted for seventy the top one hundred broadcasts in the 1:11:02.800 --> 1:11:05.479 United States last year twenty three billion in revenue. The 1:11:05.520 --> 1:11:08.360 Bengals and the all the other thirty one teams get 1:11:08.400 --> 1:11:10.720 over four hundred and thirty million dollars a year back 1:11:10.720 --> 1:11:14.280 from the NFL from TV revenue and all everything involved there. 1:11:15.320 --> 1:11:18.080 And there are three powerful figures that got us to 1:11:18.120 --> 1:11:20.920 where we are today. Is one of them Paul Brown. 1:11:21.000 --> 1:11:24.200 Let me ask Ken ken Belson. He's a veteran NFL 1:11:24.280 --> 1:11:26.280 business reporter with the New York Times, has the book 1:11:26.280 --> 1:11:29.559 out every day is Sunday, and Ken, welcome, How are 1:11:29.600 --> 1:11:31.479 you very good? 1:11:31.479 --> 1:11:32.320 Thanks for having me on. 1:11:32.920 --> 1:11:36.240 Yeah, we live in Cincinnati where Paul Brown still casts 1:11:36.240 --> 1:11:38.560 the shadow. I think you know the person who is 1:11:38.640 --> 1:11:40.960 essentially one of the cornerstones in the Mount Rushmore of 1:11:41.120 --> 1:11:43.439 the early NFL. But we're not talking about that. We're 1:11:43.479 --> 1:11:45.599 talking over the last couple of decades and how it 1:11:45.640 --> 1:11:48.240 became such a revenue monster. And the three people responsible 1:11:48.920 --> 1:11:51.840 are whom. 1:11:51.120 --> 1:11:56.000 Jerry Jones and I started the book in the early nineties. 1:11:56.000 --> 1:11:58.400 So just as a reference for it, if we're going 1:11:58.479 --> 1:12:01.360 to expand Mount Rushmore, Paul Brown would most definitely be 1:12:01.439 --> 1:12:05.799 on it. But Jerry Jones, Robert Craft and now Roger Goodell, 1:12:06.560 --> 1:12:09.240 and I'm talking dollars and sometimes common sense. 1:12:10.280 --> 1:12:12.280 Yeah, and look at that line. Go well, Jerry Jones 1:12:13.080 --> 1:12:15.320 came in prior to Robert Craft, I believe, and Roger 1:12:15.360 --> 1:12:17.800 Goodell of course the last commissioner. So let's start with 1:12:17.800 --> 1:12:19.080 the time. Let's start with Jerry Jones. 1:12:20.200 --> 1:12:23.160 Sure, Jerry came in eighty nine. The Cowboys, which used 1:12:23.200 --> 1:12:27.320 to be America's team self proclaimed, of course, you know, 1:12:27.360 --> 1:12:29.200 were flat on their back. They were losing a million 1:12:29.200 --> 1:12:32.280 dollars a month. And he revived what was then the 1:12:32.360 --> 1:12:37.599 premieer brand of the seventies, and all those Landry Stylebach teams, 1:12:38.360 --> 1:12:40.960 he revived them. He brought money in Glymer and Glitz back, 1:12:41.000 --> 1:12:44.240 and of course won three Super Bowls. But his big contribution, 1:12:45.160 --> 1:12:47.719 at least from where I sick writing the book looking 1:12:47.760 --> 1:12:50.400 at the League overall, was he was the first to 1:12:50.439 --> 1:12:53.400 look at the TV kind of tracts, which back then 1:12:53.560 --> 1:12:56.880 was CBS, ABC, NBC. There were only three bidders. It 1:12:56.960 --> 1:12:59.360 was a cozy club art model of the Browns used 1:12:59.400 --> 1:13:02.960 to run the the broadcasting contract. And Jerry, you know, 1:13:03.000 --> 1:13:05.679 as an entrepreneur, said why don't we have a fourth bidder, 1:13:05.720 --> 1:13:08.280 Why don't we get an auction going, which is also 1:13:08.439 --> 1:13:11.280 business common sense yep. So he invited in a fellow 1:13:11.320 --> 1:13:14.320 named Rupert Murdoch, who was desperate for sports, to put 1:13:14.439 --> 1:13:17.360 Fox on the map and to get affiliates to switch 1:13:17.400 --> 1:13:20.960 over to him, and it worked. He blew a CBS 1:13:21.000 --> 1:13:23.920 out of the water. CBS learned its lesson, came back 1:13:23.960 --> 1:13:26.120 four years later and paid twice as much for the 1:13:26.160 --> 1:13:29.519 AFC package. And so Jerry really brought that kind of 1:13:29.560 --> 1:13:33.320 businessman's instinct, also a bit of a wildcatter's instinct. He 1:13:33.760 --> 1:13:38.120 started marketing the cowboys every which way and that pissed 1:13:38.120 --> 1:13:40.720 off a lot of old owners. But yeah, he, as 1:13:40.800 --> 1:13:43.360 Carmen Polosy said, he taught us how to make money. 1:13:43.640 --> 1:13:44.679 That's what Jerry goes. 1:13:45.640 --> 1:13:46.120 He really did. 1:13:46.280 --> 1:13:49.680 I mean, think how you monetized the cheerleaders too. Had said, hey, 1:13:49.720 --> 1:13:52.240 you know Sexel sex Adalla's cowboy chelers are a huge 1:13:52.240 --> 1:13:54.599 thing in the seventies, had a TV show and everything. 1:13:54.720 --> 1:13:58.439 So he was squeezing every possible nickel out and this 1:13:58.520 --> 1:14:01.960 precipitated the era that we're in right now with the flamboyants, 1:14:02.000 --> 1:14:05.559 the media presence, the monetization of everything. So how does 1:14:05.560 --> 1:14:07.880 that then lead into Robert Craft? How did what did 1:14:07.880 --> 1:14:08.639 he add to the mix? 1:14:09.560 --> 1:14:12.599 Well, Robert came in very much like Jerry. He paid 1:14:12.640 --> 1:14:16.000 record amount for a really bad team. The Patriots were 1:14:16.000 --> 1:14:19.599 always at the bottom of the league financially and usually 1:14:19.640 --> 1:14:22.599 in the standings as well, and he, you know, again 1:14:22.720 --> 1:14:24.920 set out to revive it. He built a new stadium 1:14:24.920 --> 1:14:28.400 eventually and then built real estate around it and went 1:14:28.439 --> 1:14:30.639 to the Super Bowl, as we all know. But again 1:14:30.760 --> 1:14:33.640 he got very involved in league business and also on 1:14:33.680 --> 1:14:37.200 the media side. He had owned part owned a CBS 1:14:37.280 --> 1:14:40.799 affiliate in Boston, so he already had really good contact 1:14:40.880 --> 1:14:44.000 with Les Moonbez and Melk Camisan and these guys. And 1:14:44.320 --> 1:14:46.599 you know, he was the guy who brought CBS back 1:14:47.479 --> 1:14:49.519 in nineteen ninety six and they, as I said, they 1:14:49.520 --> 1:14:52.200 did twice as much for what was considered back then. 1:14:52.240 --> 1:14:56.599 The AFC package was considered less prestigious. So Robert also 1:14:56.640 --> 1:14:59.360 had that instinct we all need to we need to 1:14:59.360 --> 1:15:01.559 lift all both. We can't just focus on our own 1:15:01.560 --> 1:15:05.000 teams in our own markets. And you know, Jerry in 1:15:05.400 --> 1:15:09.679 various places has picked on the Browns, the Brown family, 1:15:09.960 --> 1:15:12.599 and the Bengals because they weren't carrying or he felt 1:15:12.600 --> 1:15:16.240 they weren't carrying their weight. But his argument was, look, 1:15:16.280 --> 1:15:19.519 if we juice up the marketing, you know, everybody should 1:15:19.520 --> 1:15:22.840 be able to sell in their own markets and make 1:15:22.880 --> 1:15:26.080 extra money. But you know, some of the older teams 1:15:26.200 --> 1:15:29.920 are the older owners. They this wasn't how they did business. 1:15:29.920 --> 1:15:32.160 So there was a good culture clash, and it's a good one. 1:15:32.160 --> 1:15:34.559 But there was a culture class in the nineties that 1:15:34.680 --> 1:15:37.760 now is just taken for granted. Everybody's in it to make. 1:15:37.680 --> 1:15:41.599 Money, yeah, and it really has. And I think Bob 1:15:41.640 --> 1:15:43.960 Kraft and he had a hand in launching NFL Network 1:15:43.960 --> 1:15:45.920 and Sunday Ticket and all those things we just take 1:15:45.960 --> 1:15:48.080 for granted. But that was largely out of the mind 1:15:48.080 --> 1:15:48.960 of Bob Craft, wasn't it. 1:15:49.880 --> 1:15:55.639 Absolutely? And you know, Bob still called Robert. He still 1:15:55.640 --> 1:15:59.920 goes to the Allen and Company, you know confab out 1:16:00.080 --> 1:16:04.479 Idaho every summer. He's you know, shoulders with NBC. All 1:16:04.520 --> 1:16:08.640 the networks come to see and go through Bob Craft. 1:16:09.240 --> 1:16:13.360 The big Sunday ticket renewal with YouTube when they switched 1:16:13.360 --> 1:16:17.120 over to YouTube was over two billion dollars a year, 1:16:17.720 --> 1:16:21.160 more than double what had been paid. And again, Craft 1:16:21.240 --> 1:16:24.320 was very instrumental in that in some ways. Really interestingly, 1:16:24.960 --> 1:16:28.559 Jerry and Robert compete against each other for who gets 1:16:28.600 --> 1:16:31.559 credit for all this and they so I guess their 1:16:31.600 --> 1:16:33.679 egos also put them up on the Mount rushmore. 1:16:33.720 --> 1:16:36.800 Okay, So Paul Brown begets Jerry Jones, a big gess 1:16:36.960 --> 1:16:40.320 Robert Kraft to So where does that go? 1:16:40.360 --> 1:16:40.439 Then? 1:16:40.520 --> 1:16:42.840 If that that lineage, you can get Bob Kraft, Getrie Jones. 1:16:43.640 --> 1:16:47.080 Who's the next I guess revolutionary? If you will change 1:16:47.120 --> 1:16:49.519 into the NFL, strights ownership goes which owner? 1:16:50.400 --> 1:16:54.080 Well, I feel like we're entering NFL three point zero here. 1:16:54.479 --> 1:16:57.679 You know where teams are even now like lifestyle brands, 1:16:57.720 --> 1:17:02.560 they're becoming you know, real estate play. They're becoming literally communities. 1:17:03.120 --> 1:17:06.360 You look at what's happening in Nashville. They're building townhouses 1:17:06.400 --> 1:17:08.400 next to NFL stadiums. It used to be I mean, 1:17:08.439 --> 1:17:10.960 you know this every fan does. Stadiums used to be 1:17:10.960 --> 1:17:12.800 out in the suburbs and they were just surrounded by 1:17:12.840 --> 1:17:16.760 miles of parking lots. Kansas City still has that, and 1:17:16.840 --> 1:17:19.479 teams are realizing, Boy, our brands are so powerful. We 1:17:19.560 --> 1:17:23.000 could sell pretty much anything because fans want to be 1:17:23.040 --> 1:17:25.000 sort of close to it, and Baseball has done a 1:17:25.000 --> 1:17:28.200 good job of it over the years. You know, building 1:17:28.200 --> 1:17:32.000 stadiums in cities. You know, family was sort of grandfarthered 1:17:32.040 --> 1:17:35.320 in even my beloved vents. You know, they're now putting 1:17:35.560 --> 1:17:39.559 a soccer stadium across the street and apartments. But football's 1:17:39.600 --> 1:17:41.760 been slow to them, partly because of the size of 1:17:41.800 --> 1:17:45.639 the stadiums and just the infrequency of the number of games. 1:17:45.920 --> 1:17:48.400 But there there is a scary city with the NFL, right, 1:17:48.439 --> 1:17:50.320 And that's the thing is amazing part about this is 1:17:50.360 --> 1:17:53.839 they did this is a baseball or hockey or the NBA. 1:17:53.880 --> 1:17:57.479 This is like seventeen weeks. Eighteen weeks, you're beginning, ending, 1:17:57.520 --> 1:18:00.639 and done. And that's an incredibly small amount of time 1:18:00.840 --> 1:18:03.760 to generate this kind of revenue. You're right about the bomb. Mean, 1:18:03.800 --> 1:18:06.000 here in Cincinnati, you know, you can get a place 1:18:06.000 --> 1:18:10.000 overlooking Great American Ballpark. So he's Ken Belson. He writes 1:18:10.000 --> 1:18:12.160 for the New York Times vetric Reporter every day a Sunday. 1:18:12.160 --> 1:18:14.880 How Jerry Jones, Robert Craft and Roger Goodell turned the 1:18:14.960 --> 1:18:18.519 NFL into a cultural and economic juggernaut. It's fascinating. So 1:18:18.600 --> 1:18:22.320 we get to Roger Goodell, now Ken and his target 1:18:22.400 --> 1:18:24.719 going in when he took office, I think in twenty 1:18:24.760 --> 1:18:27.840 oh six, he wanted to triple the NFL revenue to 1:18:27.880 --> 1:18:30.560 twenty five billion by twenty twenty seven. I said in 1:18:30.600 --> 1:18:33.439 the open last year they did twenty three billion. He's 1:18:33.439 --> 1:18:35.320 not on target, he's over target. 1:18:36.240 --> 1:18:39.040 You're absolutely right, and it was audacious when he made 1:18:39.040 --> 1:18:42.200 that prediction to the owners. He was a relatively new 1:18:42.200 --> 1:18:46.120 commissioner then, but he wanted to show the owners what 1:18:46.160 --> 1:18:48.880 he was about. He was working on behalf of them 1:18:48.880 --> 1:18:52.880 in the thirty two and you know, as he knows, 1:18:52.960 --> 1:18:55.200 he knows who pays his salary. And if you said 1:18:55.200 --> 1:18:57.880 an aggressive target, even the owners in the room that 1:18:57.920 --> 1:19:01.560 I spoke with were shaking their saying, how are we 1:19:01.560 --> 1:19:03.599 going to get there? That's up billion dollars a year 1:19:04.600 --> 1:19:08.040 for fifteen some odd years. That's that's pretty audacious. And 1:19:08.120 --> 1:19:11.280 the league back then was maybe ten billion dollars. So 1:19:12.000 --> 1:19:14.120 he did it. He did it through TV deals, not 1:19:14.200 --> 1:19:16.720 just Roger, of course, but he sets the tone in 1:19:16.800 --> 1:19:19.280 the building, not just for the media deals that the 1:19:19.320 --> 1:19:22.639 owners negotiate, but the sponsorships. You look now, of course 1:19:22.640 --> 1:19:26.879 you got Verizon and Pepsi. There's a new official bank EA, 1:19:27.040 --> 1:19:31.400 the game company. They keep splicing, slicing it a little 1:19:31.400 --> 1:19:34.280 thinner and finding new ways to market. And you know 1:19:34.280 --> 1:19:36.200 it used to be and have a drink, Well, now 1:19:36.240 --> 1:19:40.080 there's the official rum sponsor, the official bost sponsor. So 1:19:40.640 --> 1:19:43.400 they're finding money in new places and look, brands want 1:19:43.439 --> 1:19:46.240 to be associated with the league and many sports. 1:19:46.240 --> 1:19:51.000 Really, yeah, Ken, how has international expansion worked? Is that 1:19:51.080 --> 1:19:53.439 the future? Because it seems they're really pushing it. It's 1:19:53.439 --> 1:19:55.360 hard to tell me. You have a lot of expats attending 1:19:55.400 --> 1:19:57.960 games in London and elsewhere, and you're trying it in 1:19:58.000 --> 1:20:01.799 different countries and in different continents. Is that the future 1:20:01.800 --> 1:20:02.400 of the NFL? 1:20:03.840 --> 1:20:06.920 It's one future of the NFL. I think there's something 1:20:06.960 --> 1:20:10.679 of a misconception that you know, this is like gravy 1:20:10.840 --> 1:20:14.120 on top of you know, an already robust domestic market. 1:20:14.320 --> 1:20:17.280 But the reality is they need to look overseas. The 1:20:17.320 --> 1:20:21.120 growth rate in America is population growth rate is slowing. 1:20:22.040 --> 1:20:24.840 You know, the concussion issue has turned some parents away 1:20:24.840 --> 1:20:28.639 from football, and you know, many many studies have shown 1:20:28.640 --> 1:20:31.479 that what sport you play as a kid is going 1:20:31.520 --> 1:20:33.519 to turn you into a fan later in life. So 1:20:33.560 --> 1:20:36.240 if you play grow up playing a little league baseball, you're 1:20:36.280 --> 1:20:39.040 more likely to be a baseball fan. Of course, you 1:20:39.160 --> 1:20:42.200 like many sports, but your primary sport. So the NFL 1:20:42.280 --> 1:20:45.040 needs young kids playing the game. And that's where Flag 1:20:45.120 --> 1:20:48.880 comes in obviously, because it's a cheap way to start 1:20:48.960 --> 1:20:51.599 kids out on football and also to reassure parents. But 1:20:51.640 --> 1:20:55.200 it's also why the NFL is looking overseas. They need 1:20:55.280 --> 1:20:59.000 new fans, new markets, new media deals, new sponsors, and 1:20:59.120 --> 1:21:04.040 so they using flag because outside of North America probably Germany, 1:21:04.160 --> 1:21:06.559 really not many people play it. So they have to 1:21:06.720 --> 1:21:10.280 educate fans. So I see international as much as a 1:21:10.360 --> 1:21:14.120 necessity as a luxury, and that's why we're seeing all 1:21:14.160 --> 1:21:17.680 these extra games being added. Roger Goodell see apparently they 1:21:17.680 --> 1:21:20.519 want to add two more international games next year. Eventually 1:21:20.560 --> 1:21:24.240 they'll get to basically one every week by the time 1:21:24.320 --> 1:21:25.040 they're done with it. 1:21:26.400 --> 1:21:28.720 And that seems like, I think of your football fan here, 1:21:28.840 --> 1:21:30.800 it just seems like that in no way the Europeans 1:21:30.840 --> 1:21:33.240 a British state, they don't really care about American football that. 1:21:33.320 --> 1:21:36.559 But it wasn't that long ago. Mostly under Roger Goodell, 1:21:36.920 --> 1:21:39.200 we said the same thing about female fans. It's a 1:21:39.240 --> 1:21:41.400 bunch of guys watching the women go and shop and 1:21:41.400 --> 1:21:43.200 make dinner or whatever. You know. Back of the seventies, 1:21:43.560 --> 1:21:46.519 SAJ think and now just as many women is matter 1:21:46.560 --> 1:21:48.439 watching football. How do they pull that one off? 1:21:49.560 --> 1:21:53.920 Yeah, it's been a very deliberate long term strategy. Flag 1:21:54.040 --> 1:21:56.519 is one way to teach the game to fans who 1:21:56.560 --> 1:22:00.439 aren't interested in you know, option plays and or pos 1:22:00.439 --> 1:22:02.599 and all this other stuff, but they want they see 1:22:02.640 --> 1:22:05.480 the basics. I think they've been very good the branding 1:22:05.600 --> 1:22:09.760 of the league. I'm not just talking about preast cancer awareness, 1:22:09.840 --> 1:22:12.880 but literally the fashion items. If you go on NFL 1:22:12.920 --> 1:22:15.800 dot com, there's a lot of women's uh that lean 1:22:15.880 --> 1:22:18.600 into the women's fashion as well. Uh. And trying to 1:22:18.600 --> 1:22:21.639 make it sort of more fan friendly. The game day experience. 1:22:21.720 --> 1:22:24.439 I mean the days when you would tailgate, drink a 1:22:24.479 --> 1:22:26.960 six pack of beer and go with your buddies. They're 1:22:27.000 --> 1:22:28.599 trying to make it so you can bring your kids 1:22:28.600 --> 1:22:32.360 to the game and your wife, maybe your girlfriend, So 1:22:32.360 --> 1:22:35.040 softening the sport a little bit. Not like the old 1:22:35.080 --> 1:22:37.960 dog Pound in the municipal stadium, you know she was 1:22:38.240 --> 1:22:41.600 was It wasn't even fan friendly, but uh yeah it 1:22:41.720 --> 1:22:44.960 was kind of a rough out there. So yeah, So 1:22:45.240 --> 1:22:48.840 I think these are all very deliberate efforts to sort 1:22:48.840 --> 1:22:51.800 of broaden the audience because the older fans, I mean 1:22:51.800 --> 1:22:55.040 not one of them, we're aging out. Younger kids want 1:22:55.040 --> 1:22:58.439 an experience. This isn't just true of football, but many sports. 1:22:58.600 --> 1:23:00.960 They're looking for the experience, not so much looking for 1:23:01.000 --> 1:23:04.360 a season package. They're by the jersey, but you need 1:23:04.360 --> 1:23:06.439 a Joe Burrow, you know, you need some star pal. 1:23:07.040 --> 1:23:09.439 And then the NFL has picked up on that. 1:23:09.760 --> 1:23:11.360 Yeah, yeah, I think maybe still a little bit from 1:23:11.360 --> 1:23:13.640 the NBA speaking of that. Of course, you know, we 1:23:13.680 --> 1:23:18.000 have controversies right and navigating and can suck concussion lawsuits 1:23:18.000 --> 1:23:20.960 and CTE and the flight date and all that stuff. 1:23:21.160 --> 1:23:25.360 NFL is really really good about handling criseses and flare 1:23:25.439 --> 1:23:25.920 ups like that. 1:23:27.200 --> 1:23:29.600 Yeah. One of the themes in the book is you 1:23:29.680 --> 1:23:34.800 see over and over the Ray Rice issue, the bullying scandal, 1:23:35.840 --> 1:23:38.479 the de fight, to a certain degree, deflacate the social 1:23:38.640 --> 1:23:42.240 justice protests in twenty seventeen. The NFL is kind of 1:23:42.240 --> 1:23:45.960 a deck at identifying the problem, trying to minimize the risk, 1:23:46.160 --> 1:23:50.240 usually with lawyers. Concussion crisis another example of this, and 1:23:50.280 --> 1:23:53.080 then trying to turn the focus back to number one 1:23:53.320 --> 1:23:57.040 quote what they call solutions, say for helmets, neurologists on 1:23:57.080 --> 1:24:00.680 the sidelines, and then trying to pivot forward, you know, 1:24:00.880 --> 1:24:06.160 and rebranding the game. They know, like it's you and 1:24:06.200 --> 1:24:08.800 I would understand, anybody would understand it. It's all about 1:24:08.800 --> 1:24:12.080 the games. Once the games start, people are hooked, particularly 1:24:12.160 --> 1:24:14.839 late in the season, and so they try and address 1:24:14.880 --> 1:24:18.519 these problems so they can quickly pivot back to the football, 1:24:18.600 --> 1:24:19.519 the action on the field. 1:24:20.080 --> 1:24:23.000 Yeah, Ken, what do you see as the biggest threat 1:24:23.040 --> 1:24:25.479 to the NFL over the next decade? Is it health? 1:24:25.600 --> 1:24:27.240 Is in fan engagement? Something else? 1:24:28.320 --> 1:24:33.080 You know. The players now see gambling very differently. Many 1:24:33.120 --> 1:24:37.479 of them have grown up as adults after sports legalized 1:24:37.479 --> 1:24:42.360 sports gambling. You know, sports gambling was legalized nationally, so 1:24:42.640 --> 1:24:46.760 they don't have the same Alex karras Paul Hornig, you know, 1:24:46.840 --> 1:24:51.320 Pete Rose stigma, right, and it's mean as more entertainment. 1:24:51.640 --> 1:24:54.519 And I think players are going to unwittingly walk into 1:24:54.560 --> 1:24:58.960 some of these traps and not fully grasp what's going on. 1:24:59.040 --> 1:25:02.000 The Other thing is FELP funds. This is both good 1:25:02.040 --> 1:25:03.960 in bad. You can watch your favorite highlights to get 1:25:03.960 --> 1:25:06.680 your fantasy scores, but it also distracts you from the 1:25:06.720 --> 1:25:11.120 actual product, and gambling only accelerates that. You know, the 1:25:11.160 --> 1:25:14.719 dopamine hit of seeing your favorite player score a touchdown 1:25:14.760 --> 1:25:17.400 and maybe get you six points in a fantasy league 1:25:17.479 --> 1:25:20.519 is now accelerated. You know, hyped up when money is 1:25:20.560 --> 1:25:22.639 on the line, and you know, so I think it's 1:25:22.840 --> 1:25:25.080 it's it's not just the NFL, but the NFL is 1:25:25.120 --> 1:25:28.120 the most gambled on sport, and I think they're going 1:25:28.200 --> 1:25:31.519 to grapple with sort of a changing fan attitude towards 1:25:31.560 --> 1:25:33.880 the league. And I don't know how you put the 1:25:33.880 --> 1:25:37.120 genie back in the bottle. That's not my expertise, but 1:25:37.520 --> 1:25:39.240 it's it's going to play out over a bunch of 1:25:39.360 --> 1:25:39.760 years now. 1:25:39.880 --> 1:25:41.680 Also, wonder how AI is going to change all the 1:25:41.960 --> 1:25:44.599 That's that's the unforeseen. I'm the I'm sure the NFL 1:25:44.720 --> 1:25:46.320 lean into it and adapt to whatever it is. But 1:25:46.720 --> 1:25:49.760 you know, I see that from an entertainment perspective, which 1:25:49.840 --> 1:25:52.879 sports is. It's not about sports anymore, it's about entertainment. 1:25:52.920 --> 1:25:54.559 I see that as an existential threat. 1:25:55.840 --> 1:25:58.559 Yeah, absolutely. I mean, right now AI is being used 1:25:58.560 --> 1:26:04.040 mostly in in you know, analytics departments at teams, but 1:26:04.200 --> 1:26:06.400 also to figure out a way to get you to 1:26:06.400 --> 1:26:11.000 buy an extra ticket or you know, anticipate what you're 1:26:11.000 --> 1:26:12.479 going to want to drink when you get to the 1:26:12.520 --> 1:26:16.040 stadium and send you a coupon for it. So right 1:26:16.080 --> 1:26:19.200 now it's mostly on the business side, but there could 1:26:19.240 --> 1:26:23.400 be media strategies around it. I mean, fans are using 1:26:23.439 --> 1:26:26.280 it all over the place, and you know, spoofing is 1:26:26.320 --> 1:26:29.560 a big issue too. But I just think that the trusts. 1:26:29.600 --> 1:26:33.280 It's so hard in any brand to build up trust, 1:26:33.320 --> 1:26:36.799 and it can evaporate very quickly if there's a scandal 1:26:36.800 --> 1:26:38.679 and people stop believing what they're watching. 1:26:38.880 --> 1:26:41.519 All right, veteran New York Times sports reporter Ken Belson. 1:26:41.600 --> 1:26:44.000 The book is Every Day Is Sunday. How Jerry Jones, 1:26:44.040 --> 1:26:46.320 Robert Craft, Roger Goodell turn the NFL into a cultural 1:26:46.360 --> 1:26:51.040 and economic juggernauts. Fantastic read, Very very interesting, and considering 1:26:51.080 --> 1:26:52.880 we are the home of the best Bengals coverage, I 1:26:52.880 --> 1:26:54.960 think pretty relevant too to see where things have gone 1:26:54.960 --> 1:26:57.599 and where they're going. Ken, all the best, good luck 1:26:57.600 --> 1:26:59.240 with the book. Thanks for jumping on this morning. 1:26:59.640 --> 1:27:01.160 All right, and Gojo Flackham. 1:27:02.640 --> 1:27:04.840 We need we need Joe to go and the your 1:27:04.920 --> 1:27:06.639 Jets to go down. That's what we need. 1:27:07.160 --> 1:27:10.000 That's another former Jets quarterback elsewhere. 1:27:11.320 --> 1:27:14.400 Yeah, you get the Jets and the Browns together with quarterbacks. 1:27:14.400 --> 1:27:16.840 It's like a it's like an insynct grinder, for God's sake, 1:27:16.880 --> 1:27:17.160 see you. 1:27:17.160 --> 1:27:19.160 Buddy, Yeah, Okay, take care. 1:27:19.400 --> 1:27:21.360 We'll do a news update here in just minutes on 1:27:21.360 --> 1:27:24.200 the big one seven hundred WWS afore mentioned j E 1:27:24.320 --> 1:27:26.559 T S Jets. Jets Jets are in town Sunday. We'll 1:27:26.560 --> 1:27:28.960 have the game for you here, of course, with Dan 1:27:29.439 --> 1:27:32.800 and the Ring of Honor inductee himself, Dave Lapham here 1:27:32.920 --> 1:27:34.280 on seven hundred WLW. 1:27:37.360 --> 1:27:39.880 The weekend's coming on and you need to make the 1:27:39.960 --> 1:27:42.280 most of it. Where to go and what to do. 1:27:42.600 --> 1:27:44.960 She has the tips and inside to help you make 1:27:45.000 --> 1:27:47.920 it a super weekend, So listen up. This is the 1:27:48.080 --> 1:27:52.160 Local Loop with Ali Martin on seven hundred w l W. 1:27:52.320 --> 1:27:54.320 Hey, what's going on your week? Everything good? 1:27:54.439 --> 1:27:56.840 It is great. It's chrispy out. 1:27:57.160 --> 1:27:58.040 This is cold. 1:27:58.040 --> 1:28:00.920 Actually, I feel like it's every finance bro dream because 1:28:00.920 --> 1:28:05.000 it's puffer vest season, Buffer best season. 1:28:05.800 --> 1:28:08.519 You know the look I know, yeah, the quarters it yeah. 1:28:08.520 --> 1:28:10.720 And if you're thick, you look like a marshmallow. It's 1:28:10.760 --> 1:28:12.600 like you got to be Paul and bony like you 1:28:12.680 --> 1:28:14.720 and you get away. You get away with that. So 1:28:14.760 --> 1:28:17.320 it's all good. Ally Martin, it's the Local Loop. We'll 1:28:17.360 --> 1:28:19.559 jump right in. It feels like it's pumpkin season, to 1:28:19.560 --> 1:28:22.360 be sure, with Halloween on the horizon. 1:28:22.000 --> 1:28:22.679 Let's go. 1:28:22.920 --> 1:28:25.599 Yes, it is a pumpkin season and it's time for 1:28:25.960 --> 1:28:28.960 maybe a good haunted tour or if you're going, if 1:28:28.960 --> 1:28:31.479 you're going to any haunted houses. But there's one spot 1:28:31.520 --> 1:28:35.000 in particular that they're doing it right. Honestly, they're doing 1:28:35.000 --> 1:28:36.879 it right just in general because they have an incredible 1:28:36.920 --> 1:28:38.559 line of events that we have two we're gonna talk 1:28:38.560 --> 1:28:41.760 about here, and that's Northern Row. You remember Northern Row. 1:28:42.200 --> 1:28:45.960 It's a brewery near and over the Rhine. Really cool, 1:28:46.000 --> 1:28:49.679 a lot of awesome history. Coming up. On Thursday, October thirtieth, 1:28:49.760 --> 1:28:52.320 they're doing this pumpkin painting party and you're like, well 1:28:52.320 --> 1:28:55.479 that kind of is that really fun? And like, yeah, 1:28:55.600 --> 1:28:57.840 it is fun because they're going to bring in live 1:28:57.960 --> 1:29:00.400 music and it's all for free and you can go 1:29:00.439 --> 1:29:02.280 and they'll give you pumpkins and you give you know, 1:29:02.320 --> 1:29:04.600 they give you all of the material and everything to 1:29:04.720 --> 1:29:07.400 use it. It's an extension of what they're doing called 1:29:07.520 --> 1:29:11.280 Craft Nights. So yes, it's a pun on words in 1:29:11.280 --> 1:29:14.240 regards to craft beer. But also they're bringing in craft 1:29:14.320 --> 1:29:17.360 artists where they're really encouraging if you're into whatever it is, 1:29:17.560 --> 1:29:20.320 maybe you like to crochet, or you do like to paint, 1:29:20.560 --> 1:29:21.599 or you like to tinker with. 1:29:21.560 --> 1:29:22.120 Some cool stuff. 1:29:22.200 --> 1:29:24.160 I just want to drink you. 1:29:23.880 --> 1:29:25.439 Then come and drate the craft beer. 1:29:25.800 --> 1:29:28.280 On top of this though, because they're doing this pupkin 1:29:28.360 --> 1:29:32.240 painting party, they're collaborating with American Legacy Tours because right 1:29:32.280 --> 1:29:34.920 down the street is the Linked Tunnels in which they 1:29:34.920 --> 1:29:37.880 do their ghost tours. So you can hang out, d 1:29:38.160 --> 1:29:42.679 some beer, and sign up and go do a tour 1:29:42.840 --> 1:29:45.240 at the same time and check out the tunnels. If 1:29:45.240 --> 1:29:47.840 you've never done it and do the full on ghost tour, 1:29:48.400 --> 1:29:49.360 it is because. 1:29:49.160 --> 1:29:53.080 You've been out of the have you done? You have 1:29:53.200 --> 1:29:55.880 done ghost ghost Let me. 1:29:55.840 --> 1:29:57.200 Tell you can you try to get those guys out 1:29:57.240 --> 1:29:59.280 next week sometime for Halloween. 1:29:59.360 --> 1:29:59.720 You got it. 1:30:00.040 --> 1:30:03.760 Randa, she'll have she's her favorite Australia stories. She has 1:30:03.840 --> 1:30:05.880 all of the stories. I have stories myself down there 1:30:05.920 --> 1:30:09.240 too because of just going down and having a good 1:30:09.280 --> 1:30:12.400 relationship with them, and every single time it's a little different. 1:30:12.720 --> 1:30:16.040 They give you different equipment, so ghost hunting equipment, and 1:30:16.080 --> 1:30:17.960 they turn off the lights and you're rolling down with 1:30:18.080 --> 1:30:18.759 just a flashlight. 1:30:18.880 --> 1:30:22.240 What they give you, what's ghost setting equipment? 1:30:22.600 --> 1:30:25.080 Okay, have you ever seen those copper rods that people 1:30:25.120 --> 1:30:25.559 will hold. 1:30:25.720 --> 1:30:28.679 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it detects m Yeah. 1:30:28.720 --> 1:30:31.040 So they have the EMF readers, they have the copper rods. 1:30:31.280 --> 1:30:33.519 And I'm not going to get too much into the 1:30:33.560 --> 1:30:36.120 history of our city, but the best way to put 1:30:36.120 --> 1:30:39.200 it is this city has a lot of trapped energy, yea, cholera, 1:30:39.439 --> 1:30:40.880 a lot of death sure. 1:30:40.800 --> 1:30:44.000 Back in the day. And there are plenty of ghost 1:30:44.000 --> 1:30:44.679 stories to go around. 1:30:44.720 --> 1:30:47.080 But we'll save that for time. 1:30:47.439 --> 1:30:48.759 You will save that for Miranda. 1:30:50.080 --> 1:30:53.360 But also happening at Northern Row is a new event 1:30:53.479 --> 1:30:55.160 called Low and Slow. 1:30:55.280 --> 1:30:57.040 Write this down, put this in your calendar. 1:30:57.040 --> 1:30:59.920 It's happening on November eighth, So it's not this week, 1:31:00.040 --> 1:31:02.559 it is November eighth, and it's all it's an event 1:31:02.640 --> 1:31:06.720 honoring firefighters while also raising money and having a barbecue, 1:31:06.840 --> 1:31:10.160 barbecue cookar. So yeah, they're launching a new beer called 1:31:10.280 --> 1:31:14.200 Roughneck Lagger. It's an American light ale. And while they're 1:31:14.200 --> 1:31:16.920 brewing this also a good portion of the proceeds are 1:31:16.920 --> 1:31:19.320 going to be going back to the Cincinnati Firefighters Union 1:31:19.360 --> 1:31:23.479 Local forty eight, which is a really great organization that 1:31:23.520 --> 1:31:26.280 it you know, firefighters protect our community. This is an 1:31:26.320 --> 1:31:29.960 organization that protects themselves. So it helps with resources. It 1:31:30.040 --> 1:31:33.439 supplies them with access to health and wellness care. You know, taboo. 1:31:33.520 --> 1:31:36.760 Mental health is pretty taboo within that community. So being 1:31:36.760 --> 1:31:41.080 able to give them those types of resources is it 1:31:41.120 --> 1:31:41.800 goes a long way. 1:31:41.920 --> 1:31:43.439 So it will be going back. 1:31:43.360 --> 1:31:47.120 To the fire there and the food. 1:31:47.200 --> 1:31:49.600 Got oh, you're bringing in pickled pig. You're bringing in 1:31:49.640 --> 1:31:52.720 Celia Joe's Brothers barbecue. I got a little scoop that 1:31:52.800 --> 1:31:55.920 the pickled pig Gary over there is incredible. He's doing 1:31:55.960 --> 1:31:59.840 a smoked lamb ragou with a creamy polent. 1:32:00.479 --> 1:32:03.439 That probably pretty good. That's a good cold weather food 1:32:03.520 --> 1:32:05.240 right there. That is lamb night. 1:32:05.640 --> 1:32:08.559 We're just chef's kiss run that cusp of that. So 1:32:08.600 --> 1:32:10.800 I'm sure i'll I'll mention it again in the next 1:32:10.840 --> 1:32:13.479 couple of weeks, but November eighth, write it in low 1:32:13.600 --> 1:32:15.519 and slow and give back to your firefighters. 1:32:15.600 --> 1:32:18.080 I love it. Okay, this morning I'm driving in listening 1:32:18.080 --> 1:32:20.800 to Hawkins and for Tom Brenneman's up doing football this 1:32:20.840 --> 1:32:23.519 weekendational games, and he had someone on from the cost 1:32:23.760 --> 1:32:24.559 Coffee Festival. 1:32:24.800 --> 1:32:27.600 Right, Okay, you're a coffee guy, like coffee. Let's go 1:32:28.600 --> 1:32:29.120 uh Yeah. 1:32:29.120 --> 1:32:31.960 Coffee Festival is happening this Saturday and Sunday at the 1:32:32.000 --> 1:32:34.839 Cincinnati Music Call. What I do love about this festival 1:32:35.000 --> 1:32:37.679 is it's approachable. Where the tickets aren't, you know, fifty 1:32:37.680 --> 1:32:38.959 five bucks, It's like twenty. 1:32:38.760 --> 1:32:40.960 Why would you need to have much for coffee and wine? 1:32:41.000 --> 1:32:42.519 I could see that, but it's coffee. 1:32:42.600 --> 1:32:44.720 Yeah, I know, But you know, sometimes these festivals are like, 1:32:44.720 --> 1:32:45.519 all right, what what is. 1:32:45.520 --> 1:32:47.760 Happening as the water and beans? Let's let's not let's 1:32:48.160 --> 1:32:48.800 sixty bucks. 1:32:48.840 --> 1:32:51.280 Come on, man, and you're gonna have people who are 1:32:51.400 --> 1:32:53.120 running laps in that place and no time. 1:32:53.520 --> 1:32:54.800 Like this because I'm trying to the coffee. This is 1:32:54.840 --> 1:32:56.360 really good. Any things are really good. This is really good. 1:32:57.640 --> 1:33:00.360 You think I talk fast now? Okay, talk to me 1:33:00.400 --> 1:33:01.360 after coffee Fest. 1:33:01.640 --> 1:33:05.519 You need a depressant after fall asleep place and no time? 1:33:06.920 --> 1:33:08.439 Cofee? This is really good. Anything that's really good, This 1:33:08.520 --> 1:33:12.800 is really good. Think I talk fast now, talk to 1:33:12.840 --> 1:33:13.920 me after coffee Fest. 1:33:14.200 --> 1:33:15.640 You need a depressant after. 1:33:16.600 --> 1:33:21.200 I'll fall asleep on Monday at nine adhd awful. There 1:33:21.240 --> 1:33:21.519 we go. 1:33:22.000 --> 1:33:23.120 Michelle's gonna love it. 1:33:24.439 --> 1:33:27.519 Yeah, So that's happening at the Society Music Hall. There's 1:33:27.520 --> 1:33:30.639 gonna be over sixty different vendors, you know, coffee roasters, 1:33:30.680 --> 1:33:35.120 tea shops, chocolate tears, pastry, pastries, and baked goods. What 1:33:35.240 --> 1:33:37.959 I really enjoy is a really good latte art throwdown. 1:33:38.320 --> 1:33:40.960 So that's one of those things that I like coffee. 1:33:41.040 --> 1:33:43.600 I would like to learn more about coffee. I'd like 1:33:43.640 --> 1:33:46.600 to invest in a fancy espresso maker and do some 1:33:46.720 --> 1:33:49.840 of that fun latte art. Never really have gotten into it, 1:33:49.920 --> 1:33:51.720 but there is a nuance and there is an art 1:33:51.840 --> 1:33:55.240 to it which is pretty cool. And do you know 1:33:55.400 --> 1:33:57.840 what takes? What it takes to have the freshest cup 1:33:57.840 --> 1:33:58.360 of coffee? 1:33:59.360 --> 1:34:05.200 Hot water, good water, good good water, good filtered water, 1:34:05.280 --> 1:34:07.320 filtered water. Okay, I have that. 1:34:07.360 --> 1:34:09.360 Yeah, And I learned this the other day that in 1:34:09.479 --> 1:34:12.479 order to have like the freshest cup of coffee is 1:34:12.600 --> 1:34:15.679 just to grind the beans right on the spot, which 1:34:15.800 --> 1:34:18.479 is not always accessible and easy to do. But if 1:34:18.479 --> 1:34:20.840 you can grind the beans and then make a cup 1:34:20.880 --> 1:34:22.599 of coffee right there, that's going to be your freshest 1:34:22.600 --> 1:34:24.960 cup of coffee. And if you're going into a coffee shop, 1:34:25.280 --> 1:34:27.640 ask for the most recent because you know, usually have 1:34:27.680 --> 1:34:29.519 the they have like the big jugs that are already 1:34:29.520 --> 1:34:31.600 pre made, ask for the most recently. 1:34:32.240 --> 1:34:35.320 Or just do a power over right, it's pour over. Yeah, 1:34:35.479 --> 1:34:36.559 and and French press. 1:34:36.560 --> 1:34:38.599 I think if you can even again have the beans 1:34:38.600 --> 1:34:41.679 grinded there. But that's going to be your your best bet. 1:34:41.760 --> 1:34:43.840 Yeah, I'm fine with a c at home. I'm good. 1:34:44.000 --> 1:34:46.120 See Andrew killing and you're killing the planet. 1:34:46.360 --> 1:34:48.000 You're one of those you're. 1:34:47.840 --> 1:34:50.200 Too lazy to say, says the woman who has three 1:34:50.200 --> 1:34:52.120 Starbucks a day in a giant plastic cup of a 1:34:52.200 --> 1:34:52.759 huge straw. 1:34:52.880 --> 1:34:55.559 I am offended. I am That is not me walking 1:34:55.560 --> 1:34:57.080 through these hallways in ron. 1:34:58.000 --> 1:35:00.800 I watched I Need and I Need it now star 1:35:00.920 --> 1:35:02.680 but not making a whole pot of morning on the 1:35:02.680 --> 1:35:04.080 way in every day? What's wrong with you? 1:35:04.160 --> 1:35:07.000 Hold on, there's a lot to unpack. I'm still offended. 1:35:07.000 --> 1:35:07.680 I'm holding on it. 1:35:07.760 --> 1:35:09.360 You think I'm a Starbucks screen Yeah, you seem like 1:35:10.040 --> 1:35:10.280 I'm a. 1:35:10.320 --> 1:35:10.960 Dunk and girly. 1:35:11.400 --> 1:35:14.479 I'm all about affordability and their coffee is really good. 1:35:14.479 --> 1:35:15.960 You know what I'm with you? 1:35:16.160 --> 1:35:19.599 Donkeys, thank you, thank you. Just the black dark cup 1:35:19.920 --> 1:35:20.360 and then. 1:35:20.680 --> 1:35:22.080 What kind of cup do they served that in? 1:35:22.760 --> 1:35:22.960 You know? 1:35:23.040 --> 1:35:25.080 That's what if I told you I bring my own cup. 1:35:25.240 --> 1:35:28.439 You don't, don't. I'm looking right through you. I see 1:35:28.439 --> 1:35:29.080 you raise through you. 1:35:29.160 --> 1:35:30.920 Here's the other thing, What I do you. 1:35:30.920 --> 1:35:32.680 Bring on shopping bag or you're not one of those 1:35:32.680 --> 1:35:36.719 people but iring champagne. I don't have to. I'm lucky. 1:35:36.760 --> 1:35:38.200 I remember to wear pants, want to go to the 1:35:38.240 --> 1:35:40.479 grocery store. I can't remember to bring where those toes? 1:35:40.920 --> 1:35:42.640 That means this is a sign of Alzheimer's. 1:35:42.920 --> 1:35:46.480 Probably is coffee. More like I don't Carozheimer's. 1:35:47.000 --> 1:35:50.519 And how many guns you are at that age? 1:35:51.600 --> 1:35:51.840 Zero? 1:35:53.280 --> 1:35:56.200 Given when you were at when you were at the 1:35:56.240 --> 1:35:58.519 grocery store, what coffee are you reaching for? If you're 1:35:58.520 --> 1:36:02.920 making it from home? Everything is carrec you've never do 1:36:03.040 --> 1:36:03.960 you don't have like a coffee p. 1:36:04.080 --> 1:36:05.559 I used to, but it's like you throw half of 1:36:05.560 --> 1:36:07.040 it out because you have. And like in the morning 1:36:07.040 --> 1:36:08.760 when I cut, when I get up, okay, so I'm 1:36:08.840 --> 1:36:11.000 up at arm goes up five forty five. Yeah, I get. 1:36:11.040 --> 1:36:13.320 I'm making my coffee my travel mug. Right, bring that 1:36:13.360 --> 1:36:15.920 in a couple of two pods and I'm good to go. 1:36:16.000 --> 1:36:17.439 How do you feel about the poor over? Would you 1:36:17.520 --> 1:36:18.280 ever switch to the pace? 1:36:18.439 --> 1:36:20.240 It's much better than the cureate. I'll give you that, 1:36:20.240 --> 1:36:21.840 and you keep it clean and stuff like that. But 1:36:21.880 --> 1:36:23.920 I don't have that kind of time. I'm not getting 1:36:23.960 --> 1:36:25.920 up an extra forty five minutes earlier to make a 1:36:25.920 --> 1:36:27.560 perfect cup of coffee. I don't care. I need a 1:36:27.600 --> 1:36:28.400 caffeine out. 1:36:28.520 --> 1:36:30.240 I'm a poor over girl. You hear me out. You 1:36:30.280 --> 1:36:32.639 get one of those keem x for the hour glass 1:36:32.680 --> 1:36:33.120 looking thing. 1:36:33.560 --> 1:36:36.200 You just put the funnel, wet the filter, You throw 1:36:36.240 --> 1:36:38.160 the grounds in there too. 1:36:38.080 --> 1:36:42.400 Much time, one push squeezes the water left. Don't care. 1:36:42.479 --> 1:36:43.439 You're not respecting all right. 1:36:43.479 --> 1:36:45.040 On the weekend, I five times, Sure. 1:36:44.880 --> 1:36:45.400 Don't show up? 1:36:45.520 --> 1:36:47.720 Sure, sure, I'm gonna want to. You're right, you don't 1:36:47.720 --> 1:36:50.280 want to come up with my senka. 1:36:50.400 --> 1:36:52.240 You know what, you can stay up in Mason because 1:36:52.240 --> 1:36:53.400 there's a new coffee shop up there. 1:36:53.880 --> 1:36:54.720 What is it? 1:36:54.800 --> 1:36:55.799 Ca Maria Coffee. 1:36:55.840 --> 1:36:58.080 Okay, yeah, I didn't think you could possibly have any 1:36:58.080 --> 1:36:59.639 more coffee places, but here we go. 1:36:59.680 --> 1:37:02.880 Hey have to admit, Cincinnati, we have a killer coffee 1:37:03.360 --> 1:37:05.760 chop scene, and we got another one right in your 1:37:05.760 --> 1:37:08.679 neck of the woods. And it's a Yemony coffee house. 1:37:09.520 --> 1:37:11.479 So I guess it's going for like it's rich flavors, 1:37:11.520 --> 1:37:13.080 traditional brewing methods. 1:37:14.240 --> 1:37:17.360 You know what, hump breaks to have another cup of coffee. 1:37:18.720 --> 1:37:21.679 Good, just a coffee, a good cup of black coffee. 1:37:21.680 --> 1:37:22.040 I'm good. 1:37:22.400 --> 1:37:25.360 And I will say they make a really great good 1:37:25.360 --> 1:37:29.880 cup of coffee. They have awesome obviously lattes ChIL Their 1:37:29.920 --> 1:37:32.559 chilatt is really good. And they have a series of 1:37:32.600 --> 1:37:36.439 different pastries. They do this like baclava cheesecake, a Dubai cookie. 1:37:36.479 --> 1:37:38.320 Have you been hearing about how this du Baie chocolate 1:37:38.360 --> 1:37:38.760 is taking here. 1:37:38.800 --> 1:37:40.960 It's a whole thing and it's expensive as hell. 1:37:41.040 --> 1:37:41.960 What is the deal with that? 1:37:42.040 --> 1:37:43.040 I guess it's really good. 1:37:43.160 --> 1:37:44.040 I guess it's really good. 1:37:44.040 --> 1:37:48.479 And they have a by the way, the Bye cookiee chocolate. 1:37:48.479 --> 1:37:50.559 It's chewy sweet and it's absolute perfection. 1:37:50.800 --> 1:37:53.960 And almond croissant, different types of breads that go back 1:37:53.960 --> 1:37:57.160 to the amity culture. And I will say, I'm a 1:37:57.160 --> 1:37:59.880 stickler of a coffee shop that has the right vibes. 1:38:00.320 --> 1:38:03.840 And this Camarera, they they pretty much nailed it. It's big, 1:38:03.880 --> 1:38:06.160 there's plenty of space. They have this big booth, a 1:38:06.160 --> 1:38:08.439 lot of outlets, which is really important if you want 1:38:08.439 --> 1:38:08.840 to work. 1:38:09.160 --> 1:38:10.280 And they have this little. 1:38:10.960 --> 1:38:13.880 Couch area so maybe check that out if you're wanting 1:38:13.880 --> 1:38:14.120 to try. 1:38:14.120 --> 1:38:16.680 And if I can distinguish many coffee and one of 1:38:16.680 --> 1:38:18.800 the other coffee is it's just coffee to me. I mean, 1:38:18.920 --> 1:38:20.240 unless there's like a pumpkin spice. 1:38:20.439 --> 1:38:22.200 You've had to have had a bad cup of coffee. 1:38:22.240 --> 1:38:23.920 Oh yeah, I've had bad cups of coffee. I just 1:38:23.960 --> 1:38:26.920 like I'd like a dark roast kind of you know 1:38:26.960 --> 1:38:27.760 what strong. 1:38:27.479 --> 1:38:29.720 Coffee you want to Here's the other thing. If you 1:38:29.720 --> 1:38:32.479 want to save a couple of bucks, don't sleep. There's 1:38:32.520 --> 1:38:36.400 a speedway in Westchester, the Westy Chesty, and they have 1:38:36.520 --> 1:38:39.200 one of those fancy smancy coffee machines that makes the 1:38:39.280 --> 1:38:42.360 law taste. So most people who are spending seven bucks 1:38:42.360 --> 1:38:43.680 on a lot dance Starbucks. 1:38:43.920 --> 1:38:46.200 You can go to the shout out to the speedway. 1:38:46.320 --> 1:38:49.120 I will shout out, hell yeah, because a lot of 1:38:49.240 --> 1:38:51.439 people where they. I mean, it's a machine of grinds 1:38:52.000 --> 1:38:54.160 right there for you. It's really good. I think. 1:38:54.240 --> 1:38:55.880 You know what, I'm going to put that to the top. 1:38:56.360 --> 1:38:58.120 You have a fancy machine. 1:38:57.800 --> 1:39:00.479 And you don't need glass for shout out to the 1:39:00.479 --> 1:39:02.800 west Chester speed All right, what else do we have here? 1:39:03.000 --> 1:39:05.559 We have these scinety Oh, she's crabby about coffee. I 1:39:05.640 --> 1:39:07.559 remember that. That's I didn't have my coffee this mone. 1:39:07.640 --> 1:39:11.559 Oh yeah, got it. I was on the run this morning. 1:39:11.680 --> 1:39:16.839 Okay, anyway, the Society Comic expos in town, Superman Legacy 1:39:16.880 --> 1:39:18.920 meet and greet. All Right, Am I a comic girly? 1:39:19.200 --> 1:39:22.000 Heck no, but I feel like you would be a 1:39:22.000 --> 1:39:22.479 comic guy. 1:39:22.520 --> 1:39:23.120 Why don't you talk? 1:39:23.240 --> 1:39:26.720 No, you just mentioned this. I'm surprised Jack Crumley is 1:39:26.760 --> 1:39:27.280 not kicking the. 1:39:27.200 --> 1:39:29.760 Store or Ricky Chino. I feel like he's one of 1:39:29.800 --> 1:39:30.080 those two. 1:39:30.600 --> 1:39:32.800 I know he's more sports, but Jack Crumley's definitely our 1:39:32.880 --> 1:39:34.240 Jack Crumley definitely loves him. 1:39:34.240 --> 1:39:37.000 So yeah, to be honest, I put this on the list. 1:39:37.000 --> 1:39:38.400 And I really don't know a whole lot about the 1:39:38.400 --> 1:39:40.519 comic scene, but it is Friday is Sunday at the 1:39:40.600 --> 1:39:44.840 Sherfield Convention Center at Superman. I think they're really leaning 1:39:44.920 --> 1:39:48.240 into that theme. They have their normal celebrity like cud 1:39:48.439 --> 1:39:49.120 lest lineup. 1:39:49.160 --> 1:39:52.640 That was just funny though, makes it even. 1:39:52.400 --> 1:39:54.880 Better because you know what people still will show up 1:39:55.120 --> 1:39:58.759 and and if they're those celebrities are accessible, which is nice, 1:39:59.520 --> 1:40:01.439 and you can get your autographs and this is where 1:40:01.479 --> 1:40:04.599 the cosplay really comes out. I'm always super I think 1:40:04.640 --> 1:40:10.639 this is by those comic people will spend an entire 1:40:10.760 --> 1:40:14.440 year to make a single outfit and it is intense 1:40:14.960 --> 1:40:17.479 and I applaud that and perfect time a year because 1:40:17.479 --> 1:40:20.200 then if you were to make a cosplay outfit, you 1:40:20.200 --> 1:40:22.040 can wear it for Halloween, right right? 1:40:22.920 --> 1:40:26.439 Perfect killed. So yeah, scene, but I know people that 1:40:26.479 --> 1:40:28.599 do it, it's like it's yeah, is it any different 1:40:28.640 --> 1:40:30.800 than someone who put where's a Joe Burrow jersey? It's 1:40:30.800 --> 1:40:31.080 the same. 1:40:31.160 --> 1:40:31.360 Yeah. 1:40:31.920 --> 1:40:34.439 Did you ever collect comics? 1:40:34.840 --> 1:40:36.840 Never collected them? I mean soccer. I was never really 1:40:36.920 --> 1:40:38.680 like a comics. I read them, but I wasn't like 1:40:38.760 --> 1:40:42.240 collecting into the whole storyline and the Yeah, yeah, it's 1:40:42.240 --> 1:40:44.880 just a it's just a soap opera in print. Basically, 1:40:44.920 --> 1:40:45.720 it's a story. 1:40:45.520 --> 1:40:52.479 So well and like animey anime sons. So I want 1:40:52.520 --> 1:40:55.360 to understand it. Yeah, I have a hard time. 1:40:55.640 --> 1:40:57.280 But you know, there's that's a thing. It's a beautif world. 1:40:57.320 --> 1:40:59.120 There's so much things. It's just not my thing. Maybe 1:40:59.479 --> 1:41:01.599 that's not my thing, but I think that's. 1:41:01.520 --> 1:41:03.040 Kind of the beauty behind it. 1:41:03.320 --> 1:41:05.240 I always of comic art, I think that's kind of cool. 1:41:05.360 --> 1:41:09.080 Well, speaking of art, came across a pretty cool concept 1:41:09.160 --> 1:41:14.760 called art Drops Cincinnati. Just learned about this yesterday and 1:41:14.800 --> 1:41:18.200 it's this new local art engagement project project. So long 1:41:18.240 --> 1:41:22.240 story short, this community is working with local artists around 1:41:22.280 --> 1:41:25.800 town and every week they collect a different piece of art. 1:41:25.840 --> 1:41:27.719 So it could be sculpture, it could be a painting, 1:41:27.880 --> 1:41:31.880 you name it, and they're dropping it somewhere randomly in 1:41:31.920 --> 1:41:35.400 the city, all within two seventy five and they give 1:41:35.439 --> 1:41:38.760 you clues enhance on social media and if you find. 1:41:38.520 --> 1:41:40.800 It, it's yours to keep. Oh cool, I'm like, this 1:41:40.920 --> 1:41:42.120 is actually a really cool quest. 1:41:42.520 --> 1:41:45.160 There are some really great artists in town that deserve 1:41:45.240 --> 1:41:45.519 to have. 1:41:45.960 --> 1:41:46.400 Number One. 1:41:46.439 --> 1:41:48.600 It highlights the artists, It allows you to kind of 1:41:48.640 --> 1:41:50.559 explore it a little bit of a treasure hunt and 1:41:50.640 --> 1:41:52.760 a lot of the times it's in whether maybe it's 1:41:52.800 --> 1:41:54.719 like in a cool urban spot or in a park, 1:41:55.600 --> 1:41:57.080 and it allows you to explore the city. But then 1:41:57.120 --> 1:41:58.479 you also get to keep the art works like a 1:41:59.160 --> 1:42:02.840 Pokemon go of a Yeah, in real life, fine and stuff. 1:42:02.960 --> 1:42:04.320 Actually good to keep it. How do you get in 1:42:04.360 --> 1:42:04.519 on this? 1:42:04.840 --> 1:42:08.479 So you go to art dash drops dot com. 1:42:09.160 --> 1:42:11.519 I signed up. Also just follow them on social media. 1:42:11.560 --> 1:42:13.519 On Instagram is the best way to go about it, 1:42:13.600 --> 1:42:16.120 and that's where those clues happen every single week. So 1:42:16.160 --> 1:42:18.320 they highlight what the art is going to be, they 1:42:18.360 --> 1:42:21.320 highlight the artist, and then they show the little glimpse 1:42:21.320 --> 1:42:24.599 of where it's placed, and then it's on YouTube. Maybe 1:42:24.640 --> 1:42:26.880 you know it, maybe you don't, okay, and then if 1:42:26.880 --> 1:42:28.240 you can find it, it's yours to keep. 1:42:28.439 --> 1:42:31.599 We have going here. But the obvious too is we've 1:42:31.600 --> 1:42:34.000 got uc homecoming which is gonna be huge and around Clifton, 1:42:34.080 --> 1:42:36.120 and then you've got Bengals game Day on Sunday with 1:42:36.160 --> 1:42:38.960 the Jets and town a great weekend to be downtown. 1:42:39.000 --> 1:42:40.639 Lots of stuff going on, so you know, if you're 1:42:40.680 --> 1:42:43.599 looking to do stuff before the football game, coffee after 1:42:43.640 --> 1:42:46.040 the games, get some coffee to get your art thing. 1:42:46.760 --> 1:42:48.800 We've got football all over the place this weekend. She's 1:42:48.840 --> 1:42:50.960 Ali Martin. It's a local loop this morning on seven hundred. 1:42:50.960 --> 1:42:53.120 WA should be back next Friday. I'm sure it'll be 1:42:53.160 --> 1:42:55.760 all Halloween related on Halloween, so I can't wait for that. 1:42:56.240 --> 1:42:58.439 All right, go get some coffee, I will and rely No, 1:42:58.560 --> 1:43:00.559 I'm gonna go to Duncan get some coffee and relaxed, 1:43:01.120 --> 1:43:05.640 be DC. I like Dunk Duncan's fine, you did. I 1:43:05.680 --> 1:43:09.200 did the midnight Dunk Midnight Yeah. Yeah, that's the dark 1:43:09.240 --> 1:43:13.280 one dark so good pund Yeah. And the reason I 1:43:13.320 --> 1:43:15.439 do the Starbucks because the cure. The Starbucks are all over. 1:43:15.479 --> 1:43:17.519 They don't have the Duncan little pods and the sailors 1:43:17.520 --> 1:43:21.240 of the Kroger. So I'm all about the value. Have 1:43:21.280 --> 1:43:24.240 a great weekend, Ali Martin at the Local Loop that's 1:43:24.240 --> 1:43:27.240 her YouTube channel, and at Ali Martina or social feed, 1:43:27.320 --> 1:43:29.759 it's the Local Loop every Friday morning. Have a great weekend. 1:43:30.600 --> 1:43:32.759 Go Cats and who Day Home of the best Bengals 1:43:32.760 --> 1:43:34.840 coverage seven hundred w Olbody's Cincinnati