1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Penguins at the old Enemy tonight, Philadelphia, come watch the 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 1: game with me at Pittsburgh Brewing Company of Creyton, biggest 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: big screen TV ever. We're joined now by the two 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: times Stanley Cup champion. He is the Penguins color analyst, 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: Phil bork Borky, the winger. Rector McGroarty has been summon 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: from Wilkes and we've got a kid line of McGroarty, 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: Kindall and Cliven and tonight I like to see it. 8 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, good afternoon, Doublem. 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 3: Good to be on with you like always, and yeah same. 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 3: I was hoping that mccordy would be put with Kendall 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 3: and Corvenan, and you got McGroarty at twenty one, Kindle 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 3: at eighteen, and corvenan's the old man on the line 13 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 3: at twenty two. So yeah, we've seen this before from 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 3: other teams and that's had success with it. And I 15 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 3: think it's it's imperative that this line not only looks 16 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 3: good and gels quickly, but when you get right down 17 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 3: to it, mark they really need some five on five 18 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: scoring from their bottom six, and all three of those 19 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 3: guys have the ability to put the biscuit in the basket. 20 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 3: And I just think there's been too much top heavy 21 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 3: since we put the calendar to November. Now that we've 22 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 3: put the calendar to December, I really think that we 23 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 3: need to get that bottom six, putting bicskets in the basket. 24 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 3: And that line just on paper, looks like it could 25 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 3: do that. 26 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you could sit on one line, Malkin on another, 27 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: and maybe the kids on the third. The whole can 28 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: be greater than the sum of the parts. I'm glad 29 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: to see mus go in this direction. I can't help 30 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: but wonder if maybe Kyle Dubis mandated it because I 31 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: didn't like Bros Being called up and being scratched. 32 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 4: Two or three games. 33 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: This is about development, about kids. I know you want 34 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: to win, but I think Kristan Bros Could help you 35 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: do that. 36 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: Too, now I know, and I think we'll see Bros 37 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 3: up here again sooner instead of later. It was kind 38 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 3: of odd he you know, he was okay in his 39 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 3: first game. But here's the thing is, I think they've 40 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: decided that Ben kindall to get the best out of 41 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 3: Ben is to have him in that three sea hole, 42 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 3: not as a winger, but as a third line center, 43 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 3: and that's where Bros plays. Also but you know, I'm 44 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 3: almost contradicting myself here that bros Can play all three 45 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: forward positions, So I don't know if he I assume 46 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: he can play the right wing. Also, you're talking about, 47 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 3: you know, a left shot with Bros, a left shot 48 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 3: with McGroarty. H We'll see how corven In plays out here, 49 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 3: because you know Billy's he's strugglingly degenerate offense. You know, 50 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 3: just passing the eye tends you see a lot of 51 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 3: good things. 52 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: You see you're skating. 53 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 3: He can pass the part, obviously, but at the end 54 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 3: of the day, when you've got that much skill, you've 55 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 3: got to start scoring. 56 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: And you hate to kind of get to that point. 57 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 3: But now we're over twenty games where he doesn't have 58 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 3: a goal in the National Hockey League, and you certainly 59 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 3: don't want to. 60 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: Go you got to school. You got to school. 61 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 3: You gotta score, you know, like that doesn't help anything, 62 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 3: but right you gotta sco Like, at some point you 63 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 3: have to start scoring because that's what you do best, 64 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 3: and when you're not scoring, you don't do a whole 65 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 3: lot of other things to help the Penguins win. So, 66 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: you know, I wonder if maybe at some time during 67 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 3: the season, we'll see McGarty kindle and bros. 68 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 5: As your kid lined. 69 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 1: McGarty had four goals in five games with Wilkes after 70 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: coming back from his injury. 71 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 4: Burky, do you see him as a big time score? 72 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: I think he might be like to solid twenty twenty 73 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: five goal guy, like a great middle six winger. 74 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: It's boring radio when you and I agree, but I 75 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 2: do agree. Yeah, I think he's he's. 76 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 3: More of that twenty twenty five, you know, fifty sixty 77 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 3: point guy. But I don't think Rucker mcgroarty's one of 78 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 3: those guys that you measure him just on on points 79 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 3: because he does do a lot of other things. I 80 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 3: think he has the capabilities to do a. 81 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: Lot of other things. 82 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 3: And you know, and being in a leadership role, whether 83 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 3: it's that in Michigan or with the nd TP, you know, 84 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 3: the National Development Program up there in ann Arbor where 85 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: he played under Dan Muse, and then you know his 86 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: you know, World junior experiences as a captain. It goes 87 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 3: to show you that he's got a lot of leadership qualities. 88 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 3: And so that's the guy that if even at a 89 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 3: young age, if you have been given that letter c 90 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 3: on your left shoulder. 91 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 2: It's because you do more than score, you know, it's 92 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: because the. 93 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 3: Intangibles in the room, the intangibles on the bench, and 94 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 3: then when you're not scoring, what else are you doing 95 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 3: to help the team win? And I think Rutgor McGroarty 96 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 3: checks a lot of those boxes. You know, he could 97 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 3: be physical, He can you know, he can maybe set 98 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 3: up a play by digging a puck out of the corner. 99 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: He could take a hit to make a play. 100 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 3: Like those things that don't make it out to the 101 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 3: score sheet, But I know your eyeballs picked them up. 102 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 3: And as I mentioned, Corven and not as much in 103 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 3: those things. But McGroarty, I think he does more of 104 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 3: those little tangible things that help the team win when 105 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 3: he's got ending up on the score sheet. 106 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: We're talking to Phil Borgfield two nin er here on 107 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: the Mark Madden Show. This segment brought to us by 108 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: eighty four Lumber. I didn't feel like the weekend went 109 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: great for the Penguins, Bordki. The Penguins played one good 110 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: period out of six. That said, the third Columbus was great, 111 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: as was the overtime. 112 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, but they got to start putting sixty minutes together. 113 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 3: I mean, there's been too many moments where they've had 114 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 3: a great period of great two periods and you know, 115 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 3: either lose the game in overtime shootout or lose the 116 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 3: game in regulation, which they've done also, So you know, 117 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 3: when you look at the month of November it and 118 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 3: does injuries. 119 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 2: Play a role on I don't know where you are 120 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: on this mark. 121 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 3: I think you get to a point when you've gone 122 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 3: this long without you know, Brezo and without Raquel and 123 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 3: without a Chari, that you've got some players that can 124 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 3: kind of put the finger in the dike a bit 125 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 3: and the whole, but at some point the water starts 126 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: leaking out. And I think that's where we were in November, 127 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 3: that those players were dearly missed because of the fit 128 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: they were in the balance and chemistry that this team had, but. 129 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: Exactly mark they did. 130 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 3: And as much depth as we have on this hockey team, 131 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 3: which is significantly better than it was two or three 132 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 3: years ago, those players that I'm talking about fit certain 133 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 3: roles that were significant in the team winning hockey games, 134 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 3: going a two and two in October. 135 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: Now, I've been saying that we have decent depth, but 136 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: limited fit, and that's what's catching up with us right now. 137 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: How about Sid's touch in close on both goals versus 138 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: Columbus and the goal versus Toronto. I mean, my god, 139 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: Don Low, it was I mean, this goes way back. 140 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: Reminded me of phill Le's posito where you're like in 141 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: the middle of a big jam and suddenly the puck's 142 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: in the net. 143 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 3: Well, you get my u You get me all jumping 144 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 3: up and down here when you talk to a kid 145 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 3: from Boston about phill up posito. 146 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 2: But you're right. 147 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 3: Because the times he makes it look easy, right, and 148 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 3: it's not easy. 149 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: You know, just the two goals that you were talking about. 150 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: You know, I was doing the the. 151 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 3: Pre and post on the TV side with Jay Coffeel 152 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 3: and we broke that thing down. It was probably about 153 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe eleven different points that we made 154 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 3: on how that goal actually happened, and just the way 155 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 3: that Sid's mind slowed everything down. I don't know if 156 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 3: there's another player in the league, whether you're talking to 157 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 3: McKennon and McDavid, any of the other greats, Koutrov could 158 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 3: have done what Sid did. 159 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 2: Exactly. 160 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 3: And then the goal that you're talking about the other night, 161 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 3: where he's in so tight on the backhand, you know, 162 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 3: on a six foot seven goaltender with really long legs, 163 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 3: you know, and he'll be make make them look kind 164 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 3: of silly, right, It just made it look so easy. 165 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 3: But when you're in that tight on your backhand, it's 166 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 3: really hard to beat a goaltender like Sid did right there. 167 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: And it's just it's incredible. 168 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 3: It's incredible what he keeps on keeping on. 169 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: Uh he you know, he. 170 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 3: Hasn't gotten more than two games without a point all year. 171 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 3: We talked about you probably asking me this question ten 172 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 3: years ago when I started coming on your show, that 173 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 3: you know, the model of consistency that Sid is about 174 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 3: the standard. There's nobody else, there's nobody else in the 175 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 3: league that does what Sid does night in and night out. 176 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 3: End of story, exclamation part. That's point, that's that's who 177 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 3: he is, and he takes a lot of pride in 178 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: that night in and night. 179 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: Out is Jarry establishing himself as the number one goalie. 180 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: He's stolen the points a couple of times since coming back, 181 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: which he hasn't always. And I don't want to say 182 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: Shilloffs is falling apart, but he's not quite what he 183 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: started out. 184 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 6: As Yeah, there's a little bit of both, right that 185 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 6: she lost has it's kind of faulted off a little 186 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 6: bit after you know, winning three of his first four games. 187 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 3: That uh, he he has stumbled a little bit. His 188 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 3: goals against in the same percentage prove it, and uh, 189 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 3: he's just not getting the w's like he was early on. 190 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 3: He's got to find this game again. 191 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: Uh you know. 192 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 3: But with all that being said, Tristan has just kept 193 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 3: on keeping on. Right, there's there's what we were looking 194 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 3: for is the confidence and the consistency. Right, those are 195 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 3: the two things we never doubted how good of a 196 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 3: goaltender he was. But we also we scratched our head 197 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 3: on why it would go sideways and go sideways for 198 00:08:58,240 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 3: so long. 199 00:08:58,880 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 2: And so if he. 200 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 3: Has a bad goal or he has a bad period 201 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 3: and he's gonna he has right now he has the 202 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 3: mental toughness and the confidence to bounce right back and 203 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 3: reel it back in again. And that's something that was 204 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 3: missing the last couple of years, because when he just 205 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 3: stumbled a little bit, he tripped and fall down the 206 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 3: stairs twenty steps. You know, now he just picks himself 207 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 3: back up again and puts one foot in front of 208 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 3: the other. 209 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 2: And maybe it is, you know. 210 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 3: Newly being a dad. Maybe that has something to do 211 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 3: with it. Maybe he was just sicking sent down to Wilksbury, 212 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 3: as he did two times last year. But there's a 213 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 3: maturity to Tristan. There's a there's just a certain body 214 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 3: language to the way he is. Just he I just 215 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 3: bumped into him in the hotel here earlier today. There's 216 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 3: just a certain air about him now that is a calmness, 217 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 3: a coolness, a collectiveness and a confidence. 218 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: The power Play had been really chugging along, number one 219 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: in the league and all that. Now it's three for 220 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 1: its last seventeen and to me, port gets evident why 221 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: they scored goals for a while another trying too hard, 222 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: trying too much, try it too fancy, backdoor passes all 223 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: the time. 224 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: This segment sucks. Here we go, here we go. I agree. 225 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 2: I agree again with you. Yeah, you're right. 226 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 3: Because we mardeled at the simplicity of the part of 227 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 3: the power Play And that's not the sexy answer, but 228 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 3: it's the right answer. 229 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 2: That they've got the. 230 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 3: Way with that that it's almost like they're again I'm 231 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 3: not I'm being a little dramatic here, but it's. 232 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: Almost like, ah, that was too easy. Let's try that. 233 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 2: Let's try the tough stuff again. That's way more fun. 234 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 3: Well, the tough stuff is it doesn't work. You know 235 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 3: what I mean about the tough stuff. It's trying to, 236 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 3: you know, make passes that are not there, you know, 237 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 3: make east west passes. We have to go through skates 238 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 3: and sticks. 239 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: Uh. When the simple player was just get it to 240 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 2: the damn net. 241 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 3: We get guys down low with the skill that they have, 242 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 3: you know, whether it's Kindle or or Gino or or 243 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 3: Russy or Skid, whoever it is, you know. And Eric Halson, 244 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's the guilty party here, but he's 245 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 3: one of five that's a guilty party that when that 246 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 3: just that simple wrist shot hard and low and the 247 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 3: feet of the goaltender is there, they're thinking, nah, I 248 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 3: did that in October. I want to I want to 249 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 3: make that back to a pass to sit for the tap, 250 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 3: and that's way more fun and looks better on TV. 251 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 3: They're going to get back to just simplifying thing. They'll 252 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: they'll be fine if they do that. It's not they'll 253 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 3: continue to be on this slow, downward spiral. 254 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: It's weird too, Niner. I'm not crazy about where the 255 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: Penguins wrap, but I don't hate it either. 256 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 4: It's a long project. 257 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: I don't feel uncomfortable right now, but I just want 258 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: to see a little more uptick, a little more return 259 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 1: to where they were in October. 260 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you, and that's why I brought 261 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 3: up the injuries. It feels like a long time that 262 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 3: we saw ricond Kel and I don't think it's around 263 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 3: the corner. I think Brazo, Yeah, but you know, hopefully 264 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 3: justin Brezo is the Brazo we saw on October, because 265 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 3: you know, a big body, and it's tough to get 266 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 3: the big body moving again. And that was just we 267 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 3: couldn't even put our finger on why there was so 268 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 3: much chemistry between Manta, Malkin. 269 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 2: And Brazil, but it was. And so will it still 270 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 2: be there when he comes back? I hope so. And 271 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 2: you know, Chari is a Charry, you know, a Charty. 272 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 2: We know we're gonna get with a Chari. 273 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 3: He's built like a coke machine. He's he's a bowl 274 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 3: in the china shop, you know. I think that's as 275 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 3: long as he plays like that, And and the other 276 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 3: team wants to knock his block off, then Nola Chari 277 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 3: will be Nola Chari. 278 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 2: But I get that feeling. You kind of had this uneasiness. 279 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: About where the Penguins were in October, and why have 280 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 3: we got to the point now where the very tip 281 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 3: of our fingernails were hanging on to a wild card 282 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 3: spot when we should be battling with with New Jersey 283 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 3: and Carolina for that number one spot in the metro. 284 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 2: So I agree with you. I had that same uneasiness 285 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: that you have. 286 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: Now we got the old enemy tonight and talk has 287 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: them playing better. But I still like our roster better 288 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: than I like theirs. I liked that they caught up 289 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: my mom and too, because the Flyers pulled some crap 290 00:12:58,160 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: the last. 291 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 3: Time they did and the guy with the most punishable 292 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 3: face on that team, and Trevor Ziegers was the guy that. 293 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: Kind of couldn't melt him down and pour him into 294 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: a fight. 295 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 2: No, no, but here's the thing. 296 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 3: First you beat him on the scoreboard, then you beat 297 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 3: the snot out of him, and you're right with Boco 298 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 3: Omama in the lineup. 299 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 2: Here's the thing about Boco. Boco can play. 300 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 3: You know, he's said a. 301 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 2: Good set of myths. He'll play the game. 302 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 3: He And here's it's gonna sound like a silly statement, 303 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 3: but I think. 304 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 2: You understand it. Mark. 305 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 3: He can throw a body check. He can throw a 306 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 3: body check to hurt somebody and not take a penalty. 307 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 2: That's what I mean. He could play the game. He 308 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 2: could skate. He can get there. 309 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,599 Speaker 3: He's not he's not chasing after the checks because he 310 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 3: got slow feet. He can move his feet and get 311 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 3: there and make those body checks and make him legal. 312 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 3: And he can intimidate the game that way, if you 313 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 3: want to drop the gloves. 314 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 2: He's a technician. Mark. 315 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 3: I talked to him the other day about this guy 316 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 3: and that guy and these other players. And and I 317 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 3: don't know if Nick Laurier is gonna Nick Laurier's in 318 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 3: the lineup here tonight. It didn't look like he was, 319 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 3: which I find hard to believe that we're talking would 320 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 3: not put him in. 321 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 2: But if that's the case, that's the case. 322 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 3: Because Bokoamama, if he doesn't have a dance partner, he'll 323 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 3: go out and play. He'll intimidate the game with physicality 324 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 3: without the fist of cuffs, right, he can do that. 325 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 3: And so and here's the other thing did Gino Rusty 326 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 3: tanger Car. 327 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: Guess what they're They're popping. 328 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 3: Out their chests a little bit more knowing that number 329 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 3: four teams in the lineup. Whether they'll admit it or not, 330 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 3: it's an absolute fact that they love having this guy 331 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 3: in the lineup. 332 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: No question, barking. There's always a pleasure, great insight. Enjoy 333 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: the game tonight and we'll see you at the rink, 334 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: cut boy next week. 335 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 4: You guys are gone for a while. 336 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 3: Huh yeah that we're going to Tampa and Dallas. But hey, 337 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 3: you do a little thing thing tonight, the little watch 338 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 3: party tonight. 339 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: Pittsburg Brewing Company on Creighton Big creyton Pa biggest, big screen, Borkie, 340 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: you should see this TV. 341 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 3: Well, I'd love to maybe partake one time, not for 342 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 3: a Penguins game, but maybe some other event with you. 343 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 3: Are you going to have those Flyer jerseys? Because you 344 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 3: know how I feel about the Flyers and when they 345 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 3: start your command against with that Jack Ascid, you got it, 346 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 3: you got the jersey. 347 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 4: I'll have them there tonight, believe me. The T shirts. 348 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and not only that, Porky, we've expanded operations. 349 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 4: We now have Orange and black. 350 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: I don't even eat Orangeminem's. 351 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you'd wear this shirt. It looks too good. 352 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 2: All right, buddy, I enjoyed our time together. This was 353 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: good lucky talk. 354 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: That's Phil Bourk com Mark Madden, get your calls in now, 355 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: calls on the fifteens. Trey Essex can't join us today, 356 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: had a prior commitment. Interfere Brian Batko from the post 357 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: because that at four thirty, one oh five to nine. 358 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 5: It's the Woody Show week mornings at six. 359 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and what do you what? 360 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 4: What do you want? 361 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 7: Damn it? 362 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 5: D exit one oh five nine. 363 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: Once again, calls on the fifteen's proving to be sporadic. 364 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: We were packed for three fifteen, not so much now, 365 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: but you can call it now eight three to three, 366 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: four one two WXDX. We got Brian batt in just 367 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: a few moments in any case, and it's a short 368 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: segment here anyway. 369 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 4: But here's Aaron Rodgers after. 370 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: Yesterday's game calling out John news Smith for winning an 371 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: improper route. 372 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 8: When there's film sessions, everybody shows up. And when I 373 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 8: checked to a route, you do the right route. 374 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 2: You know, Like. 375 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 8: John and I just were on same page. I checked 376 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 8: to his ian breaker and he ran out breaker. You know, 377 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 8: I'm John is a true professionals. I'm sure he's you know, 378 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 8: he's sick, sick about that. 379 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: There is there's Aaron Rodgers. I know, welcome to Pittsburgh, 380 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: but I honestly don't blame him. Aaron Rodgers did not 381 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: come to Pittsburgh expecting this, this fiasco. Aaron Rodgers believed 382 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: in the Steelers myth and the Tomlin myth after observing 383 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: from Afar, and now he's smelling the excreman up close. 384 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: Like Tim Ben said on his podcast, if Rogers had 385 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: it to do over, he'd probably be Minnesota or Bust. 386 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 4: Here's Cam. 387 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: Hey, we're talking about Josh Allen allegedly kneeing him in 388 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: the stomach yesterday. 389 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 4: Being need in my stomach and then it was drawing 390 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 4: back and forth, and then you know he tacked off 391 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 4: the entire game because as a quarterback they're protected. 392 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 5: But I'm not just pisses me off saying yes, that's exactly. 393 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 7: What I'm saying. 394 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 5: Did you cross the line throughout the game? 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Joining me now to indulge 439 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: from the Post Caazette's Brian. Brian, We've been talking a 440 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: lot about the third quarter yesterday in particular. That's about 441 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 1: as bad as it's gotten for the Steelers in quite 442 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: some time. 443 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 4: Isn't it. 444 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 9: Yeah? 445 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 10: I mean luckily Mark I was back from the Nacho 446 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 10: bar just in time, sitting down at my seat in 447 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 10: the press box and boom, Joey Bosa coming in like 448 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 10: a freight train hitting Aaron Rodgers. And you know, I 449 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 10: think every week that they lose in every game that 450 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 10: goes left like that. The players sort of maybe maybe 451 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 10: it comes from Mike Tomlin, but they sort of see 452 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 10: the Pond one play and they say, oh, that was 453 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 10: the turning point and we didn't do a good enough 454 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 10: job responding to that. The strip sack was that play 455 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 10: for them yesterday. I assume that'll be the talking point 456 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 10: for Mike again tomorrow at his presser. But I think 457 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 10: we all know that the issues are bigger and more 458 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 10: grandiose than that they just happened to materialize specifically on 459 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 10: that play. 460 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: I give Rogers a lot of credit for playing with 461 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: now the bum nose and the bum rists too, But 462 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: should he be playing He seems very limited and tentative 463 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: given the circumstance. 464 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 10: I mean, I don't want to say he shouldn't. But 465 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 10: someone asked me that in my chat today on the 466 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 10: PG site, like, is it a good idea to have 467 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 10: your quarterback in there when he can't take snaps under center? 468 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 10: And I'm not an exason O's guru, but I would 469 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 10: say no anytime that you can't open up the entirety 470 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 10: of your playbook, especially when you're the Steelers and you're 471 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 10: running this offense, that can't be a good thing to 472 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 10: play into the hands of defensive coordinators who are. 473 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:31,479 Speaker 5: X's and O's guru. 474 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 2: So I feel like that's. 475 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 10: Kind of why Mike Tomlin went the route. 476 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 5: That he did a week ago with Rudolph. 477 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 10: In Chicago, and now he's trying this and just like 478 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 10: many other things with the Steelers, they try some different things, 479 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 10: but ultimately it lands them back in the same spot. 480 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: Rogers talked about the why that's winning the wrong route 481 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: on Checkdown's Johnny Smith, in particular the tight end, but 482 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: Mike thought, it's week thirteen. I mean, I can see 483 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: him getting frustrated. But if they're not on the same 484 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: page by now, Brian. 485 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 10: Yeah, And let me just set the scene a little 486 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 10: bit for context. That was the last question of the 487 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 10: Rogers presser, which had already sort of been all over 488 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 10: the place. He was criticizing their practice week, but then 489 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 10: he was taking up for the coaches and Mike Tomlin, 490 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 10: and then he was making comments about the game day 491 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 10: experience not being up the par whatever that means, and 492 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 10: then sort of a granular inside football question about getting 493 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 10: on the same page as receivers with routes, and the 494 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 10: Smith one was mentioned specifically, and then he almost just 495 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 10: couldn't help himself, and that's when he started saying the 496 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 10: stuff about when there's film sessions, be at the film 497 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 10: session when I check to a route, run the right route, 498 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 10: and I hope to see all the boys at our 499 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 10: next meeting. So he's almost leading us on this witch 500 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 10: hunt to find out who has not bought in on 501 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 10: this offense. And I tend to think that he's not 502 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 10: talking about Johnny Smith, because he did take great pains 503 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 10: to say he's a true professional, albeit blamed him for 504 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 10: that miscommunication. But man, this is the kind of stuff 505 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 10: that followed Rogers here from New York and even a 506 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 10: little bit of Green Bay before then, and. 507 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 9: It's it's looking somewhat messy at the moment. 508 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: Well, one guy who doesn't have to bother to run 509 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: the right rode or wrong LT is Pat Frarman. 510 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 4: He's disappeared, hasn't he. 511 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 10: Yeah, And if you really want to get the microscope 512 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 10: out and try to figure out who Rogers is talking about, 513 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 10: you can pretty much eliminate friar of you from that 514 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 10: list because you have to play to not be on 515 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 10: the same. 516 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 5: Page as the quarterback. 517 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 10: And you know, I think those two have have been 518 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 10: very happy and willing to work together from day one 519 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 10: that Rogers signed here. So I don't know what's going 520 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 10: on with the tight end adjudication of snaps. I thought 521 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 10: for the better part of a month now that John 522 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 10: hu Smith good guy, good locker room presence. I like him, 523 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 10: but he's not providing much when he's out there. So 524 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 10: it's either time to slash the snaps for him in 525 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 10: this rotation or simply phase him out and just make 526 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 10: him a straight up back up to Pat Fryer. Muse 527 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 10: it would be admitting defeat as. 528 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 5: Far as acquiring him goes. 529 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,959 Speaker 10: But as Mike Toman always says, the road is getting narrow, 530 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 10: and just like a college basketball coach in March madness, 531 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 10: might be time to shorten the rotation in the bench. 532 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: What is their offensive identity? And that almost sounds like 533 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: a trick question. 534 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I don't think they really have one. 535 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 10: And this is one of those things that comes up 536 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 10: when a team is struggling. It's sort of an easy 537 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 10: crutch for players to use. Over we're looking for our identity. 538 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 10: We need to get back to our identity. I think 539 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 10: the best offense is you know, they have one, but 540 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 10: it's because it's something that they're really good at and 541 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 10: they can also beat you in other ways. This offense 542 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 10: doesn't really have either. I guess if I were forced 543 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 10: to choose, I would say their identity is being physical, 544 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 10: the jumbo package, Darnell Washington, Spencer andrews In lining up 545 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 10: nine hundred pounds of. 546 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 5: Man meat on the edge running at you. 547 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 9: But that's not really working right now either. 548 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 10: It certainly didn't work on that fourth and two with Anderson, 549 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 10: you know, the bacto slot receiver and Kenneth Gainwell just 550 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 10: getting absolutely stuffed. So I think they want that to 551 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 10: be their identity. I don't think they've been particularly good 552 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 10: at it as of late, and that's probably what they 553 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 10: have to tap into if they have any hope of 554 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 10: turning this around down the stretch. 555 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: We're talking to Brian Batco at the Post Gazette, and 556 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: that's the funny part, Brian. 557 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 4: They're still in it. 558 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: They're still tied for the top of the division, still 559 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: six and six. This game Sunday is a monstrous game, 560 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: and the Ravens aren't great either. They're six and six two. 561 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: Yet I have zero faith in the Steelers. 562 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 10: I agree, I acknowledge everything you say, and you know, 563 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 10: I guess I wouldn't be shocked if the Steelers find 564 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 10: a way, and it wouldn't even really be me praising 565 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 10: or crediting them. 566 00:25:58,720 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 5: It would probably be. 567 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 10: More of just this is what the NFL is in 568 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 10: twenty twenty five. Goofy stuff happens on a weekly basis, 569 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 10: with no real rhyme. 570 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 5: Or reason to it or way to predict it. 571 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 10: And yet I am not going to predict they go 572 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 10: down to Baltimore and win at the raven two. You 573 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 10: know that lost to the Bengals while putrid on Thanksgiving 574 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 10: might have actually been a wake up call for a 575 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 10: team that. 576 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 5: Had been rolling in the win column. 577 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 10: At least, you know, they weren't winning fluidly, as Tomlin 578 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 10: would say, but at least they were stacking wins. Maybe 579 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 10: they actually needed that to humble them refocus them. I 580 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 10: don't have nearly as much faith that the Steelers are 581 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 10: going to be able to do that, not after the 582 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 10: way they collapsed around this time last season, and not 583 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 10: after the way that they've been playing these last seven games. 584 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 4: What's wrong with the defense? Because it offensely should not 585 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 4: be that bad. 586 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: It's so high priced, all those big names, but there 587 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: ain't nobody there really doing. 588 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 4: Anything, is there? 589 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 2: Right? 590 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 10: I don't think guys are defeating blocks up front, and 591 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 10: that's where it starts. 592 00:26:58,840 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 9: And then I don't think the. 593 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 10: Lineback behind them are playing well enough to make up 594 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 10: for that. You know, if there was any silver lining, 595 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 10: you know, the secondary I guess was okay, Brandon eccles 596 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 10: made a couple of nice plays and they weren't getting. 597 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 5: Beat over the top. 598 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 9: But that's damning with faint. 599 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 10: Praise because the Bills didn't really even have to do 600 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 10: any of that. And you know, the corners were getting 601 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 10: gouged on the edges by James Cook in the running game, 602 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 10: other than Joey Porter Junior coming up with some good 603 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 10: tackling and run support. But yeah, I mean, it seems 604 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 10: like it's just sort of a total system failure defensively, 605 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 10: where they plug one hole and then another one just 606 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 10: comes gaping wide open. I think it's getting late early 607 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 10: for Taroll often, even if he's just the de facto 608 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 10: defensive coordinator and he's running what Mike wants him to run, 609 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 10: and he's doing what Mike wants him to do. We 610 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 10: all know that football is big business, and you know, 611 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 10: people have to pay the price and fall on the 612 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 10: sword when things go south, and things are going very 613 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 10: south for that unit. 614 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't figure out well, I mean I can't. 615 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,719 Speaker 1: It's actually Evanent, but like, Heywards just not that good anymore. 616 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: Wat's even not that good anymore. Ramsey's not that good anymore. 617 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: Like I wasn't sure that all the old timey guys 618 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: would be great. I wasn't sure that all fall off 619 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: like they appeared to have. 620 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 10: Remember Darius slay Pour a little bit out for him. 621 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 10: He was in street clothes for that game, just straight 622 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 10: up inactive. So I mean that tells you just how 623 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 10: bad that signing was. That that's gonna go down. I 624 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 10: guess as one of the worst, considering he wasn't even 625 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 10: active for a huge game in the AFC in week thirteen. 626 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 10: But yeah, I guess that's neither here nor there because 627 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 10: he wasn't on the field, And you're right, those guys 628 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 10: who were weren't doing much of anything yesterday. I think 629 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 10: Kean Ubenton still really struggles against the run, particularly, he 630 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 10: might just be miscast in this defense, this whole defense 631 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 10: might be miscast because the good teams, at least for 632 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 10: the most part, have seemingly figured it out long ago, 633 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 10: and occasionally they rise up with some superhuman plays by 634 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 10: Hayward or Watt to help beat the Ravens or help 635 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 10: beat the Colts. But we know when the Chips are 636 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 10: down with the Chiefs, with the Ravens, with the Bills 637 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 10: have done to them, and. 638 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 9: I don't see that changing in twenty twenty five. 639 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 4: What could they change? What could they fix? 640 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: And I asked that knowing that they don't seem like 641 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: they see the need to change much. 642 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 9: You're talking about this season or just big picture. 643 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 4: No, as in by Sunday, oh. 644 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 9: Chief by Sunday. 645 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 5: I don't know. 646 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 10: I really don't, because the Ravens just pushed them around 647 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 10: last year, and. 648 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 4: You know, pushes them around now, Brian. 649 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 10: Every game, Yeah, Jets and Seahawks first couple of weeks 650 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 10: of the season. Absolutely, you can't just pretend those games 651 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 10: didn't happen. 652 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 5: So, yeah, I'm with you. 653 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 9: But this game, specifically, this was. 654 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 10: What was fresh in their minds this offseason when Tomlin 655 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 10: and Omar Khan and Andy Whida went out to sign 656 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 10: Malik Harrison as the free agent, to draft Derek Harmon 657 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 10: and Ye Black and try to remake this group and 658 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 10: do a more physical defense. And pardon the pun, but 659 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 10: no one's been raven about the acquisitions so far this season. 660 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 10: Every guy doesn't really give me any hope that they 661 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 10: are going to change anything this week. And you know, 662 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 10: you want to talk about personnel changes, what's left? I mean, 663 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 10: there's really not much less, So I don't have an 664 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 10: answer for you on that one. 665 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: What's going to happen Sunday at Baltimore, because like this 666 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: seems like do or die, even though there'll only be 667 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: a game behind if they lose, and they would have 668 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: a rematch with the Ravens at Pittsburgh, but clearly there's 669 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: only that be one playoff team from the AFC North. 670 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 4: This game seems like all or nothing. 671 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 10: I think the Ravens are going to win, and win 672 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 10: pretty comfortably because, like I said, I think this really 673 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 10: is the game of two teams that need to respond 674 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 10: to a horrific home loss, and I think the Ravens 675 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 10: are better built to do that based on the quarterback 676 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 10: for one, who I know is not playing is best football, 677 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 10: but I still think he's better than Aaron Rodgers in 678 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 10: his current state, the talent around him for two, and 679 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 10: then just recent history for three in this matchup, but 680 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 10: also how the Ravens have peaked at the end of 681 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 10: the regular season. Now, don't get me wrong, they can't 682 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 10: get over the hump ultimately in the postseason. But I 683 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 10: can't see them losing at home again to the Steelers. 684 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 9: But maybe this. 685 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 10: Will be mutually assured destruction in the Bengals will ride 686 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 10: in here hot and run the table and win the 687 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 10: AFC North, and we'll have missed the forest for the 688 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 10: trees all along. 689 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: Hey, don't kid yourself, right, If they win on Sunday, 690 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: it'll be like nothing bad happen and the storyline will 691 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: be the AFC is a mess, They're a threat win 692 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: it all. 693 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 10: Yeah, I guess all I would take is a TJ. 694 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 10: Watt stripsack there, a Jalen Ramsey tipped interception here on 695 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 10: Lamar Jackson, and a you know, a high school sort 696 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 10: of wishbone offensive game plan, because I thought that was 697 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 10: the recipe we were trending toward, uh last night until 698 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 10: Joey Bosa came in like a Mac truck. 699 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: Brian, great stuff, as always, enjoy the game Sunday. We'll 700 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: talk again soon, I hope, great work. 701 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 9: Thanks Mark Cia. 702 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: That's Brian Batco of the Post Gazette. This segment brought 703 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: to us by I can't find it the hell with 704 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: it time not as Mark anything eight three three four 705 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: one two wxdx eight three three four one two wxdx 706 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: call now a three three four one two wwxdx four 707 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: leave a talk back via the microphone icon at the 708 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: iHeartMedia app one oh five nine. 709 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 11: Tonight the Penn's face off against the Flyers. Game time 710 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 11: is seven. 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She prowls 715 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 11: the digital survivors for dealers to satisfy Virginius, Mark Maddenberginius, Yeah. 716 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 2: Mark, welcome show. 717 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 4: Well if I won you pertating Dusty Road, Youmican dream, 718 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 4: so be it. 719 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 5: Bating the x at one five nine. 720 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 4: As Mark anything. 721 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: Reckless by People's Natural Gas, People's and es Sense Utilities Company, 722 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: People's Hyphengas dot Com. Let's go to land and Land 723 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: and ask Mark anything? 724 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 7: Hey Mark? 725 00:33:59,800 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 2: Ye? 726 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 4: What's up buddy? 727 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 2: All right? 728 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 7: I just wanted to say that I think the defense 729 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 7: played pretty well yesterday and Mike Promlin raises leaders. 730 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, kid, Uh, your dad told you to say that 731 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: to make you sound stupid because he's ashamed of you 732 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: and your grades probably aren't that good at school. If 733 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,280 Speaker 1: I were, you auld wise up to listen to somebody 734 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: else besides your dumb dad that told you to say that. 735 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: Thank you for the call. What's good to Jay in Bridgeville? 736 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: J Ask Mark anything? 737 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 2: Hey Mark? 738 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 5: Hey Mark? 739 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say I didn't even the defense played 740 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 3: that bad and I. 741 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 4: Think let's go to Roddington Roddington, you're all with double. 742 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 5: M What. 743 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 2: Up? 744 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 4: Hey, Mark? 745 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 13: I'm after that dumpster fire performance for the Steelers yesterday, 746 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 13: I wanted to get your thoughts on who's your leading 747 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 13: contender for Douchebag of the Year for the Steelers. 748 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: That's a good question, but I think Cam Hayward's going 749 00:34:58,600 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: to be the leader in the clubhouse, right. 750 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 13: I totally agree with you, But after what Patrick Queen 751 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 13: did the tray yesterday, I think he's my leading and tender. 752 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, Patrick Queen popping off in a two time super 753 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: Bowl champion and bringing up individual accolades. That really revealed 754 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: the Steelers culture now as what it is, selfish and 755 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: not oriented on winning. 756 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 13: I think their culture is that they're not real Steelers 757 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 13: in our major frauds. 758 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 5: But I think. 759 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 1: Kim's body of work in terms of being what douchebag 760 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: of the year. 761 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Kim's. 762 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,720 Speaker 1: Body of work dating back two holdings ago cannot be ignored. 763 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 4: I mean, Cam was put in work for this year 764 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 4: last year. 765 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 13: Yep, totally agree with you. He's probably the leading contender, 766 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 13: but I would say TJ. Watt and Patrick Queen are 767 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:52,720 Speaker 13: a close second. 768 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 4: Let's go to Silky Silky. Ask Mark anything, what's up? 769 00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 2: Super g? 770 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 12: I got a calm, I get a it was I 771 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 12: couldn't agree with you more about the sideline reporter is useless? 772 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 12: A suggestion what do you think about using the boogie 773 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 12: by UFO as one of your intros? 774 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 2: And a question Bookie is. 775 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: Like UFO even before I started listening to them. That 776 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 1: predates Shenker even so no, that's not no, no dice okay? 777 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 12: And a question as we get older, we're supposedly able 778 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 12: to get Wiser, Did you ever think about getting retested 779 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 12: on your IQ? 780 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: No, there's no need to. IQs do not increase or 781 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: decrease as you get older. They are innate. They are 782 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,959 Speaker 1: the intelligence that you have naturally, So there's no need. 783 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: Let's go to call and call and ask Mark anything 784 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: calling you there? 785 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 2: Oh? 786 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 13: Hello, this isn't calling, This is Greg. Great, Sorry about that, double. 787 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,280 Speaker 1: M Okay, what you called in and said you were calling? 788 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 4: So we'll move on to the next caller. Let's go 789 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 4: to Mike. 790 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: Mike, you're own with double m. 791 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 4: Hey, Mark, how are you great? 792 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:03,479 Speaker 2: Hey? 793 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 3: If let's say Toman does exit this after the. 794 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 8: Season, it's his first non losing season, what do you 795 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 8: think the national narrative will be around that, that. 796 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 4: The Steelers let him down. 797 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 1: We're already seeing that as the national narrative when Rex 798 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: Ryan said to the Steelers should do Tom Win a 799 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: favor and fire him because he could get a job. 800 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,720 Speaker 1: Five minutes later somewhere else, the national narrative is that it's. 801 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:26,399 Speaker 4: Not Tomin's fault. 802 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: In fact, there's already groundwork being laid, like the Chris 803 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: can'ty sound we heard earlier that it's Rogers's fault. 804 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 2: I agree. 805 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 4: It ain't Rogers' fault. This is all Tomlin's fault. 806 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: This is one hundred percent, one thousand percent, a million 807 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: percent Tomlin's fault. His fingerprints her over everything bad, all 808 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 1: over everything bad with this franchise, no doubt, ondoubt. 809 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 4: Let's go to a. 810 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 10: Talkback, Mark, do you think there was any chance TJ 811 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 10: or Cam are not Steelers next year? 812 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: No, because I don't think anybody would want them. I 813 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: think at one point, I think you could have got 814 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,720 Speaker 1: even as much as a second round pick for TJ 815 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: this year, not next year. And Cam should just quit. 816 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 1: Cam's just done. Although Cam, I gotta tell you, Cam's 817 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: playing better than TJ. Cam gets out there and does 818 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: the gruntwork in the trenches. He just not getting numbers 819 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 1: to show for it. That was always what made Cam special. 820 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: He was a defensive end in a three to four, 821 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: which is not a job designed to get sacks, but 822 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: he got him anyway. It's a it's a job designed 823 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: to eat up blockers, but he did more than that. 824 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 4: But now he's not. Let's go to a talkback. 825 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 3: Hey, Mark, why did they yell sell the team for 826 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 3: Art Rody during the NFL Draft? 827 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 5: Yeah? 828 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,320 Speaker 1: Like I said, I think Art Rooney's biggest fear should 829 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 1: be that Steeler fans ruin the draft if this season 830 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: continues to go stop. The draft is the moment that 831 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: his family works so hard for, that his dad dreamed 832 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 1: of it's coming to Pittsburgh. And if Steeler fans were 833 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: disruptive and chanted fire Tom win and sell the team, 834 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: I think that would ruin the draft and and really 835 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 1: cause him great distress. I'm not saying go out there 836 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: and do that. I'm just saying, let's see how the 837 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,240 Speaker 1: rest of this season goes. Let's go to Tom. 838 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 2: Tom. 839 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 4: You're all with the. 840 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 2: Mark, you know. 841 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,760 Speaker 7: I know yesterday's game was bad and people are talking 842 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 7: about pointing to the play where Rogers got strips sacked. 843 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 7: But I'm wondering what your thoughts are, Allen, And is 844 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 7: that the reason that in the second half they ran 845 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 7: the same running play five straight times to shove it 846 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,399 Speaker 7: down our throws. I thought that was the most embarrassing thing. 847 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: I think they I think they just did it because 848 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 1: it was working. And believe me, there are a bunch 849 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: of things about yesterday's game and about the Steeler season 850 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:04,439 Speaker 1: and j that have been mega embarrassing. Brov Uh but that, yeah, 851 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 1: that ranks right up there. They just kept doing the 852 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: same thing. The Steelers pride themselves in you can know 853 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do, but you can't stop us. Well 854 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: that's not the case anymore. And the Bills took that, 855 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: reversed it, and shoved it right up. The Steelers took us. 856 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,399 Speaker 1: Let's go to a talkback, hey, March. 857 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 10: Even if we did pick up Herbert during the Amika trade, 858 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 10: it won't matter. 859 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 5: Tomlan would have screwed that up too. What's your thoughts 860 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 5: on that? 861 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 1: No Lies Detected? It's the mark Man Show one oh 862 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 1: five ninety x