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Speaker 1: A very pleasant, good evening everybody. Greetings from the studios

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Speaker 1: of seven hundred WLW, and welcome to the West Miller

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Speaker 1: Radio Show. We are not back at the original Montgomery

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Speaker 1: In yet. Renovations at the end continue. We hope to

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Speaker 1: be back there soon. In the meantime, we're happy to

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Speaker 1: have you with us for the show tonight. From the studio,

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Speaker 1: I'm Dan Hord with former Bearcats stand out Terry Nelson,

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Speaker 1: and of course the start of the show you see

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Speaker 1: head coach Wes Miller. This is the closest thing to

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Speaker 1: a bye week that the Bearcats get during Big Twelve

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Speaker 1: conference play. The Cats have not played since Sunday, when

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Speaker 1: they won their third in a row. The only game

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Speaker 1: this week is coming up on Saturday on the road

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Speaker 1: at Kansas. What has this done, coach for the health

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Speaker 1: of your team.

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Speaker 2: It's been a good week.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: We had we had a number of guys that are

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Speaker 2: battling the flu, you know, number of guys that are

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Speaker 2: batting the physical ailments of the season, and we've been

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Speaker 2: able to get guys, you know, more on the healthy side.

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Speaker 2: We've also been able to get back on the practice

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Speaker 2: court and you know, get back to some fundamental things

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Speaker 2: that you just don't get the opportunity to do when

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Speaker 2: you're playing a game every two or three days. So

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Speaker 2: so far it's been a good week. We need to

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Speaker 2: have another good day of practice tomorrow before we head

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Speaker 4: How proud of you of your guys battling knowing that

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Speaker 4: what happened earlier in the season, where you guys come

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Speaker 4: from all the games that were missed, you could you're

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Speaker 4: starting to close on a three game win streak now

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Speaker 4: dealing with injury and illness. How proud of you got

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Speaker 4: how they were responding, how they've responded.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think and I've been pretty consistent here all

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Speaker 2: year with this this kind of a statement, but I've

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Speaker 2: been very proud of how they've been responding day to

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Speaker 2: day all year. You know, like they've had the right

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Speaker 2: kind of mentality, right approach togetherness for the most part. Right,

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Speaker 2: I've been proud of that. But to see it take

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Speaker 2: good to see the reward for them. So yeah, there's

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Speaker 2: there's some proud things there. I think Terry, like Gizzl

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Speaker 2: had the flu. I think I said that publicly after

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Speaker 2: I didn't know in our game against Utah Sunday, that

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Speaker 2: Davian Thomas or Data, he he threw up at halftime.

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Speaker 3: That's when he ran in the locker room.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he I didn't know this till the

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Speaker 2: next day. And then he threw up again. He called

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Speaker 2: So yeah, both of those guys were really fighting it.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even know about Data till the next day.

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Speaker 2: I called him. I said, dude, I just found out

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to say anything, you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: Gizzle showed up for practice on Saturday with a one

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Speaker 2: Well, we've had the flu go through the team a

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Speaker 2: I know, if Gizil can he's I mean I know that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if he can practice, I know he's can play.

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Speaker 4: I knew that he'd play well. More on the on

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Speaker 2: What's that been like, It's been creative, you know, no gosh,

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Speaker 2: each other and making it competitive. You know, mixing up

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Speaker 2: a great rebounding team, Well, yeah, we do rebounding drills

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Speaker 2: like everybody, but the best way to be a great

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Speaker 2: To me, you sharpen the edges and you're most prepared

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Speaker 2: didn't want to see how. I think everybody was so

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Speaker 2: But we actually got back to that yesterday in practice,

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Speaker 1: You shared on Sunday that you thought the rebounding had

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Speaker 1: You had not been able to do physical rebounding drills

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've done the technique drills, right, you know, hitting

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Speaker 2: we do things in practice where you know, we tally

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Speaker 2: we we have aspects of our practice that we coach

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Speaker 2: So it's been more of the technique stuff, which is important,

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Speaker 3: During the stretch.

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Speaker 4: You've had some consistency with your veterans, but you also

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Speaker 4: had a freshman and Keys Antillier really step up and

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Speaker 4: You see him in practice and you keep saying over

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's really good and then.

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Speaker 4: All of a sudden you start to see what you're

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Speaker 3: How proud have.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would like his attitude since Christmas. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's really difficult to play freshman point guard. It's been

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Speaker 2: this year is strange because there's a couple guys that

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Speaker 2: their names called pretty quick when the draft starts. But

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Speaker 2: for the most part, it's just very difficult to have

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Speaker 2: and then to do it at point guard's even harder.

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Speaker 2: So I think he's such a competitor. You guys see them.

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Speaker 2: He uses edge in competitive energy, and he was frustrated,

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Speaker 2: you know, before Christmas. He came back from Christmas with

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Speaker 1: He did not have the reputation of being a tremendous

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Speaker 1: really good shooting form. How much do you consider that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a value. You believe in his shot when

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Speaker 2: still is. Right, he's like very hard for people to

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Speaker 2: But if he can do that at this level, imagine

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Speaker 2: what he looked like in high school in AAU. I mean,

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Speaker 2: but he's in there every morning getting extra shots, and

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Speaker 1: on the West Miller Radio Show here on news radio

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Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW. The Bearcats have put together a three

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Speaker 1: game winning streak. They will try to make it four

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Speaker 1: on Saturday one o'clock tip off, Cincinnati time at fog

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Speaker 1: Allen Fieldhouse against the number eight team in the country,

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Speaker 1: the Kansas Ahawks. Two of your biggest mentors are former

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Speaker 2: No, I think it's been We haven't had many nights

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Speaker 1: You dominated that game and won by twenty nine, and

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Speaker 4: When you look around the Big twelve, a lot of

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Speaker 1: Sean o'bive has missed the last six games with an

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Speaker 3: I want to hear all the I go back and

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Speaker 2: Stealing some stuff.

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Speaker 1: You know, you and Bill Raftery have something in common.

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Speaker 2: I have been been fortunate over the years. You get

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Speaker 2: it's it's been neat to come across people like that,

437
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 2: and he's one of those eyes that whatever you think

438
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 2: he would be like from listening to him on television

439
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,880
Speaker 2: is exactly how he is in person. I know he's

440
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,680
Speaker 2: a good friend of yours, Dan, but what a great guy.

441
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Speaker 1: Is the best in his eighties, as good as ever

442
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Speaker 1: doing the national championship this year in his eighties.

443
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Speaker 3: Yes, he's doing a national championship this year.

444
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, he's done it for the last few years.

445
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 1: So excitedly Clark Clark Studio. No, yeah, hig An Eagle,

446
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Speaker 1: Bill Raftrey, Grant Hill.

447
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Speaker 3: You's good. That's a good, good trial. All right.

448
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 1: We have not talked, at least so far on this

449
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 1: show about Mustapha Chomp's performance on Sunday and the win

450
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,160
Speaker 1: over Utah. Fifteen points, ten rebounds, four block shots. He's

451
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Speaker 1: had plenty of games where he scored fifteen points or

452
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Speaker 1: roughly fifteen points, but at least in Big twelve competition,

453
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 1: ten rebounds is a high, four block shots is a high.

454
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Speaker 1: What's he needed to do to do that more regularly?

455
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Speaker 2: Just keep keep doing what he's doing, which is working consistently, learning,

456
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 2: gaining confidence. Uh, he just has to keep keep going.

457
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 2: The direction that he's going, and this guy's the limit

458
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,880
Speaker 2: for him. I think anybody that knows what they're looking

459
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Speaker 2: at you can watch him and you know that the

460
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,399
Speaker 2: sky's the limit. He can accomplish whatever he wants in

461
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Speaker 2: our game. He's still such a young player with these

462
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Speaker 2: great gifts. He's got great character, great work ethic. He

463
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Speaker 2: just seems to keep going every day and he'll keep

464
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Speaker 2: getting better and better.

465
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Speaker 4: Now, you're sitting here in front of this laptop open

466
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Speaker 4: as a coach would do. You walk in, You're you're

467
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Speaker 4: you're got a phone in your ear, you're doing laptop stuff, multitask,

468
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 4: multitasking as I expect you. You're looking at the film

469
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 4: and you're and you're basing your practice schedule based on

470
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Speaker 4: what you need to correct and build up for this game.

471
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Speaker 4: What when you look at Kansas, what sticks out about

472
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Speaker 4: some of the things that they do?

473
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Speaker 2: Well, Wow, they uh, you know, it's interesting because I think,

474
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Speaker 2: you know, a couple of months ago, maybe they weren't

475
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Speaker 2: viewed this way nationally or you know, what their rankings

476
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Speaker 2: or not. But there's a reason why they've climbed up holes.

477
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Speaker 2: They're doing a lot of things. Well, guys, they're offensively,

478
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Speaker 2: like like a lot of Kansas teams. You know, they

479
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 2: do play with good pace. You you can't spot them

480
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 2: points in the open court, So taking care of the

481
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 2: basketball will be very important. You know, you can't turn

482
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Speaker 2: it over because they'll jump on you by converting those

483
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Speaker 2: those turnovers or those long rebounds. If you take bad shots,

484
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 2: you know they'll they'll jump on you and convert those

485
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Speaker 2: to easy baskets on the other end, So you got

486
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Speaker 2: to check the box and transition in your defense. They

487
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 2: they really do a nice job moving the ball side

488
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Speaker 2: to side. I mean, the ball pops around. They make

489
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Speaker 2: you guard multiple actions if something good isn't there. There's

490
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Speaker 2: a nice discipline to how they play offense, and then

491
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Speaker 2: you can you can see the development of that when

492
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Speaker 2: you watched them earlier in the year till now. They're

493
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Speaker 2: playing much better basketball defensively. It's different than than what

494
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Speaker 2: we faced the last couple of times we've played Kansas.

495
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Speaker 2: You know, they're they're changing their defense. That's quite a bit.

496
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Speaker 2: You know, whether they're switching five ways at times, sometimes

497
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Speaker 2: they're not. Sometimes they do for a couple of minutes

498
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Speaker 2: and then change it. It was actually interesting in the

499
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Speaker 2: Oklahoma State game the other night. They they were in

500
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Speaker 2: the huddle with the head coach at Oklahoma State and

501
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 2: he was telling his players what to do. If they're

502
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Speaker 2: doing this, do this, if they're doing that, do that

503
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Speaker 2: in regard to some of their defensive schemes because it

504
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Speaker 2: is very unpredictable and they're keeping people off balance with their defense.

505
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Speaker 2: And then their rebounding is very significant. I mean, the

506
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 2: guys they started at the three, four, five are all

507
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Speaker 2: excellent rebounders with excellent size. You know, Trey White, who

508
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 2: played a lot of four last year to Illinois on

509
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Speaker 2: a really nice team, is playing starting at the three

510
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Speaker 2: for them and plays a little bit of minutes at

511
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Speaker 2: the four, but he's a great rebounder from the small

512
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Speaker 2: forward spot. And then you know Florida Ba Dounga is

513
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Speaker 2: is you know, terrific in the front court. Not a

514
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Speaker 2: freshman anymore now he's he's a sophomore and playing at

515
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Speaker 2: his high level any big big guy in our league.

516
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Speaker 2: And then you know, finally like they bring him off

517
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Speaker 2: the bench too, and got a bunch of guys that

518
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Speaker 2: can rebound the basketball. So you know, they do a

519
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Speaker 2: lot of things well they are Actually here's the second

520
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 2: ranked team in the country and out of bounds offense efficiency,

521
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Speaker 2: so you better be ready to guard on that bounds.

522
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Speaker 2: Let's go and Bryce and Tiller. It would be the

523
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Speaker 2: other guy in the front court who's who's having a

524
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Speaker 2: really nice freshman year as well.

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Speaker 1: You and your staff recruited Flori badunga long and hard.

526
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Speaker 1: He's from Cocomo, Indiana. Obviously ultimately chose to play at Kansas,

527
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Speaker 1: but do you remember seeing him at a really young

528
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Speaker 1: age and thinking, oh, can we get this guy?

529
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, never forget the first time I saw him

530
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Speaker 2: play and he just dunked everything like it was dunking

531
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Speaker 2: on a nerf hoop and a. It was like, I

532
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 2: think we're in Spartanburg, South Carolina, an Adidas event and

533
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 2: he was sixteen and underplaying and it was incredible. Got

534
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 2: every rebound, dunked every ball, blocked every shot, and you know,

535
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Speaker 2: the scary thing preparing for this game. He's doing that

536
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 2: in the Big twelve now right, he's he's playing with

537
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 2: that kind of dominant force in our in our league.

538
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 2: And so again you know they've they have a great

539
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 2: front court and then they you know, you kind of

540
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 2: looking Peterson is terrific with the shot makings terrific. I

541
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 2: think that's well documented. I'm not saying anything nobody anybody

542
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 2: doesn't know, but I tell you what, I'm really impressed

543
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 2: with their point guard. Like he's downhill. He shoots it well,

544
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 2: but you got to get him stopped in transition, and

545
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Speaker 2: then as they get into their half court offense, he's

546
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Speaker 2: putting pressure on the paint. Again. They're like any team

547
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Speaker 2: that's ranked in the top ten. They're very good basketball team.

548
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Speaker 4: One of the things that you've got to clean up

549
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Speaker 4: this week heading into Kansas that you think will give

550
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Speaker 4: you the best chance to be successful.

551
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Speaker 2: You guys heard this after the game Sunday, but I

552
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 2: was really disappointed in our rebounding here recently. I think

553
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 2: that's an area we have to hang our hat. We

554
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 2: have the ability to do that, you know, certainly like

555
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 2: guys like Baba and Mustafa and Tyler, to me, they

556
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 2: have like elite skills rebounding the ball. But as a team,

557
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 2: for us to be as good, we have to do

558
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 2: it collectively and we have to be great in ball

559
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 2: pursuit and it has to be all five guys. I

560
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 2: we've had moments that in stretches where you can see it,

561
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 2: you can believe it. We've had moments we haven't we

562
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 2: have something I wanted to get back to this week,

563
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: and then all these little areas of our program we value,

564
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 2: they start to dip a little bit when you're not

565
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 2: practicing as much. We were trying to get back to

566
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Speaker 2: that stuff this week, Derek.

567
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Speaker 4: I feel like there's almost AAU style where you're you

568
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 4: got to stop and have like a mini camp halfway

569
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Speaker 4: through the reinforce.

570
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Speaker 3: The fundamentals that you've been working on all year long.

571
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it feels like that every time you

572
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 2: get a practice and you know you have limited time

573
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 2: and you're trying to squeeze every second. That's why we

574
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Speaker 2: spend so much time working on playing practice, because you've

575
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 2: got to squeeze every second out of the time you

576
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Speaker 2: get on the court.

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Speaker 1: Now, we should acknowledge the fact that you coach Darren

578
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Speaker 1: Peterson's dad. I did in high school, Darryl Peterson. When

579
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Speaker 1: did Darryl start telling you, Hey, tell I think my

580
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: kid's gonna be special.

581
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Speaker 4: Well, he had already he was gone, he was already

582
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Speaker 4: acron and to see him on the trails the AAU

583
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Speaker 4: circuit and he's one of those.

584
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Speaker 3: His day he was doing with his dad.

585
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Speaker 4: His dad used to sit on the opposite bench and

586
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Speaker 4: be coaching him during the entire game.

587
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Speaker 3: Do that. And so I was like, man, why do

588
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 3: you keep listening to him and you're not listening to me.

589
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 4: And if his dad came up and talked to me

590
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Speaker 4: one day and was like, look, I'm not trying to

591
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 4: go around you, guys. I'm just you know, from a

592
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 4: father when you have children, you'll know from a father

593
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 4: to a son. I'm telling him, you know, stronger. I'm

594
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 4: not telling him to do anything that you're not telling

595
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 4: him to do. I'm just telling them to do it more.

596
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 4: When I see Darryl going over to Darren, he was

597
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 4: doing the same thing at a young age, telling him

598
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 4: to use his jab step, you know, come up the

599
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,719
Speaker 4: screen tighter, do this, do that, like elite level stuff.

600
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Speaker 4: And to see him and he never brags about him.

601
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 4: He would always just show his work on his Facebook page.

602
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 4: He would just show him working out, show him doing

603
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 4: the spot up drill, showing him in the gym early,

604
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 4: showing him clocking in to say, look it's three o'clock

605
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 4: in the morning, I'm in the gym, What are you

606
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 4: doing that type of stuff?

607
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 3: And so when you see him, you kind.

608
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 4: Of wonder with him going right now, like is he

609
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 4: saving himself or is he saving them stuff for the

610
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 4: tournament to try to become the hero.

611
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Speaker 1: I really think he needs to take a day off

612
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: on Saturday, that's me. I think it's really important for

613
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: him to save, you know, any energy he has for

614
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Speaker 1: the next game, whoever they play.

615
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Speaker 2: I'm just sitting here going Terry's relationship is just good

616
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: with the Peterson family, the heck Man, Like you really

617
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 2: care about the bear Cats?

618
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Speaker 3: Man, I think, hey, you.

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Speaker 4: Guys got That's all I heard how much you love

620
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Speaker 4: the bear Cats?

621
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Speaker 2: Say got here and you're you know, hard and soul.

622
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Speaker 2: But help prove it, you know. I want to coach

623
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Speaker 2: that guy.

624
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Speaker 4: I don't think that the Brinks truck didn't go farther

625
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 4: enough in Clifton.

626
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Speaker 1: All right, we'll take a time out more with a

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Speaker 1: coach when we continue. This is the West Miller Radio

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Speaker 1: Show here on News Radio seven hundred WLW. We've got

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Speaker 1: about ten minutes to go with Coach Miller on the

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Speaker 1: West Miller Radio Show from the studio tonight here on

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Speaker 1: news Radio seven hundred WLW appreciate Joe Waddell in the

632
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Speaker 1: studio running the show. We'd like to hit you with

633
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Speaker 1: some tea time with Tnell questions in this final segment,

634
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Speaker 1: things that we do on the pregame show in previous games.

635
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Speaker 1: Last Sunday. Later that night was the NBA All Star Game,

636
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Speaker 1: so we had some questions related to the slam Dunk

637
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Speaker 1: contest on the pregame show last Sunday. Key Shaw Johnson

638
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: from the Miami Heat won this year. It's not like

639
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: back in the day when Michael Jordan, Dominique Wilkins, Vince Carter,

640
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Speaker 1: guys like that won the slam Dunk Contest. Is there

641
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Speaker 1: a way to fix or improve the NBA Slam Dunk Contest?

642
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Speaker 1: Tell and I actually had a very similar idea. Anything

643
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Speaker 1: to mind for you? We had a dunk contest, Yes,

644
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Speaker 1: they had a contest.

645
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Speaker 2: I challenge you guys to find somebody that loves basketball

646
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: anymore than I do, complete degenerate junkie when it comes

647
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: to love of this sport. I didn't know we even

648
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: had an All Star weekend in a dunk contest. That's

649
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Speaker 2: how disinterested I am.

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Speaker 1: That's how in the NBA or the All Star Game

651
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Speaker 1: or just everything during this time of year because of

652
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: what you've got going on.

653
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 2: No, even if I didn't have what I had going on,

654
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 2: there's nothing about it that would entertain me that goes

655
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 2: on over this weekend. And that wasn't the case years ago.

656
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 4: All Star Game was fixed. The Dunk Contest still needs fixing.

657
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 4: I like the USA versus the world, the world versus

658
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 4: your whatever. The three team focus that they had it

659
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 4: was really good, really competitive, and they played hard.

660
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 3: The Dunk contest you need star power.

661
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 4: You can have the best dunks in the world, but

662
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 4: nobody knows who the guy's dunking, and they're not gonna

663
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 4: so the love that they're supposed to show.

664
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,719
Speaker 1: But that's not going to happen. So our idea that

665
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: we kind of came up came up with separately, is

666
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: to make it the US Open. Yes, this is open

667
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: to anybody in the country. Send in your videos of

668
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: your crazy dunks, and let's pick the best dunkers in

669
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: the country. They don't have to be Michael Jordan and

670
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: correct Dominique Wilkins. Kind of a US Open of dunking.

671
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 2: James White would have won at one point.

672
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 4: Mel Levitt too, James White almost he almost won. He

673
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 4: did a he dunk from the free THROWNE did a

674
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 4: wind from the.

675
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 3: Free throw line.

676
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 2: But what but what?

677
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 3: Yeah?

678
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: Man, I saw him in high school do some things

679
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: that were unbelievable, and he could win meal from the

680
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 2: free throw line. But it had been open when he

681
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: was in his prime and he could have entered.

682
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:49,479
Speaker 3: He'd have one.

683
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know. Like Mel Lovett, Guys, I love

684
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 2: Mel Lovett, you know, like.

685
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: For Flair on dunks there was nobody better than.

686
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 2: About a person him too. Yeah, what an awesome, awesome person.

687
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: If we're allowed to have favorite former players, he is

688
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: number one for me. He works camp with us every summer.

689
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 2: Oh he's the best, man, He's the best. Now. Oscar

690
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: Robertson's up there too, and Kenyan Mare you know the

691
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 2: you know, but like I love, I love Samel Lovitt.

692
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: The most entertaining player I have seen in all my

693
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: years as the voice of the Bearcats. Not the best,

694
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: the most entertaining.

695
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 4: I was a manager on the team when he was playing.

696
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,719
Speaker 4: And just how he fail, I mean how he landed.

697
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 4: Because I used to talk to him. I say, you

698
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 4: know how I said, dunking is not so much what

699
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 4: you do on top, it's how you land.

700
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 3: I said, watch when Jordan dunks, he lands like a cat.

701
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 3: He doesn't keep running all around any places.

702
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 4: No, when he lands, he lands and he pauses and

703
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 4: everybody can take his picture.

704
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 3: He goes. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm

705
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 3: talking about.

706
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 4: To see him when he gets dunks and he would

707
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 4: come down and he was one of those guys, man

708
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 4: that he was. He had flair to his dunks and

709
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 4: and he loved the crowd, and the crowd loved him.

710
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: No doubt. All right, question number two in your prime, coach,

711
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: your athletic prime, could you dunk?

712
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 2: I'm still hoping I hit my athletic.

713
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: I got news for you, right, I don't know, Like we're.

714
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 2: Talking about going to Mars and all kinds of crazy

715
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 2: stuff's happening in the world. Why not? You know? Why not?

716
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: But uh, I'll tell you what.

717
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 3: No.

718
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 2: I would have answered that differently when I was young,

719
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 2: because my brain thought I could. But I could if

720
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 2: you threw it over the rim, I could like hit

721
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 2: the ball in and grab the rim. But a real dunk, No,

722
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 2: And I tried a lot, and I.

723
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 4: Couldn't do it one of the last shootout you've had

724
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 4: with your team. Who's challenged you because when you do

725
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 4: the drills, you don't miss I'm like, what is he

726
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 4: trying to do? Is you're trying to you shoot it

727
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 4: and they may or missed, they grab it and they

728
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 4: go in transition.

729
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 2: At Kansas State the night before we went over to

730
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 2: their practice facility to shoot, which you guys know we

731
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 2: do that on the road. We practice here, then we'll

732
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: travel and then we'll go over and do some shooting

733
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 2: and Keishawn Tillery and I shot and he got me.

734
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm sad, sad to admit it, but I

735
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 2: believe in being honest and he got me, and maybe

736
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 2: that was part of some like plan. I had to

737
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 2: get better to build his confident. Noo, I'm just kidding.

738
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 3: He did.

739
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 2: He beat me. He was pretty happy. Oh sure, yeah, yeah,

740
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 2: so was I until I lost.

741
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 1: How did you become a grade shooter? Did you have

742
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: a hoop in the driveway? Did you go to the

743
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: gym every morning? How did you develop your shot?

744
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 2: Wow, that's when I haven't been asked since my planing days.

745
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: I was obsessed and so I had a hoop in

746
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 2: the driveway, and since I think maybe sixth grade or

747
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 2: seventh grade, you know, I was out at all hours

748
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: just to obsessed. When I got to eighth grade, I

749
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 2: got regimented and i'd shoot every morning before school.

750
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: Set number? Did you have to make a certain number?

751
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: What did you do?

752
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 3: Sure?

753
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you know, different at different points through my

754
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: high school career, it was different. But I woke up

755
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 2: at five point thirty every morning until I got to

756
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,439
Speaker 2: college and shot before school, shot after school, then shot

757
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 2: again at night when I was when I would come

758
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 2: back home. I went to prep school for my sophomore

759
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 2: through senior year, and when I come back home, I

760
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 2: learned how to break into the local gym at my

761
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 2: old high school.

762
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 3: That in prep school.

763
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I broke the law, but I would. I'd

764
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: figure out ways to leave a window open and then

765
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 2: i'd climb. It was actually pretty dangerous. I'd climb up.

766
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: I hope those people never hear this, but I would,

767
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I'd climb in a window on the second

768
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 2: story actually and go and go shoot in the gym

769
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 2: because I was crazy about my shot, so I always

770
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 2: wanted to shoot inside. Shooting outside was hard with the

771
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 2: wind blowing, but now, I was obsessed and all the

772
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 2: until I finished playing, I was the guy that had

773
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 2: to shoot three times a day or I wasn't mentally right.

774
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 2: So when we have obsessive, compulsive players and day day's

775
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 2: a little bit like that, Gizseles a little bit like that,

776
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 2: I can relate to that because I was like that

777
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 2: as a player.

778
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 4: Who was the best marksman you've seen when you were

779
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 4: in college or played against JJ Reddick.

780
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 2: I guarded him quite a few times in high school

781
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 2: like an aau I guess and then and uh tough

782
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 2: a couple things. One he he he didn't miss good looks, right,

783
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 2: That's how it felt. But he was People don't realize this.

784
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 2: He was like six five sixty six, so he had

785
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 2: really good size and he could shoot over top of people.

786
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 2: He could shoot running off of screens, which when you

787
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: watch him in the NBA you remember that. But the

788
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: thing that I give Coach k a lot of credit,

789
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 2: what made it really hard was his senior year, which

790
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 2: is my junior year, when he was the National Player

791
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 2: of the year. Every single time down on the floor,

792
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 2: they just they screened for him. I mean what we

793
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: would call floppy or like baseline screening action. Literally, it

794
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 2: felt like ninety percent of their possessions they come to

795
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 2: came down and Sheldon Williams, you guys, remember, was a massive,

796
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 2: massive played in the NBA. Javick Randolf was this. They

797
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 2: had these two huge centers on the court at the

798
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 2: same time, and they let him set all legal screens

799
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 2: for him. And so it wasn't I mean, obviously he

800
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 2: was the best shooter in America, one of the best

801
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: shooters ever. He could shoot over top, shoot, running off screens,

802
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 2: and then they would screen for him every possession. So

803
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 2: I got the match up the first time we played

804
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: against them my junior year. Then it didn't go well.

805
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 2: He made a lot of shots that night, then we lost.

806
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 2: And then the second time we played them, they change

807
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 2: the matchup. I guarded somebody else and we won. But

808
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: he was he was the best I saw in college,

809
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 2: for sure.

810
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: It was your answer to that question to you, now,

811
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: that's you you saw.

812
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 3: So I saw Reggie Miller. So Reggie Miller.

813
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 4: The year in UCLA on the West Coast eighty seven

814
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 4: is when the three point line came in, and before

815
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 4: then Reggie used to shoot so far back. Everybody was saying, man,

816
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 4: the three point line was here, He'd be he'd be great,

817
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 4: He'd be great. Then the three point line came in

818
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 4: and Nebraska came into UCLA and it was the first

819
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 4: national TV game UCLA.

820
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 3: Had against Nebraska.

821
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 4: He scored forty points, and every time he hit a three,

822
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 4: it was like he wanted to prove that he was

823
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 4: an NBA three point shooter. And he kept shooting like

824
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 4: five six feet away from the three point line back

825
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 4: then it was nineteen nine three point line.

826
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 3: And he would shoot and.

827
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 4: He would go back with his hands and he would

828
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 4: stare at you the entire time while he's looking at you.

829
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: Getting ready for spike lay.

830
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 3: Yes, it was, it was. It was fun to watch.

831
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 4: And then uh Hank Gathers and bow Kimball actually bow

832
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 4: Kimble because he would get twenty five tries at it

833
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 4: before halftime.

834
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 3: They did, you know, their their coach didn't really care.

835
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 3: Paul Westball didn't care about you know. He just wanted

836
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 3: shots up.

837
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, you scored too, We'll score three.

838
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 4: Yes, And he would shoot, shoot, shoot, And the torch

839
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 4: of the best gut I've ever seen was that game

840
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 4: versus Michigan in the first round, first or second round

841
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 4: in nca Tournament and Hank Gatheris had just died and

842
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 4: both Kimball had forty one points, twenty one rebounds, had

843
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 4: four three throws, Yes, lefty free throws.

844
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: Chris Mullen would be the answer for Yes, best shooter

845
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: I've seen in person in college basketball. I mean if

846
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 1: he was open and his Saint John's Day Jay days rather,

847
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: he did not.

848
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 3: Miss talk about technically sound. He was not athletic at all,

849
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 3: but he was smart.

850
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 2: Well, guys, if we're talking about like just seen in person,

851
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 2: I thought we were talking about played it.

852
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 3: Well, that's how it started.

853
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: Later, Yeah, it's Steph Curry. I mean it's.

854
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 3: All the time.

855
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 2: Yes, man, it might not even I saw him my

856
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 2: first year in coaching. I was an assistant coach at Elonos,

857
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 2: probably twenty four to twenty five years old, which was

858
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 2: fun because I was the is different time in college basketball,

859
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 2: was the third assistant, but I was also the ops guy,

860
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: the video guy, and the grad assistant. Like there was

861
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,439
Speaker 2: nobody below me, right, But we were in the same

862
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 2: conference with Davidson, and that was Steph Curry's junior year.

863
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,439
Speaker 2: So they made that great run to the elite eight

864
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 2: shot away from going to the Final four. His sophomore

865
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 2: he came back and you know, everybody's pumping him up,

866
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: and I'm like, Skuy, this guy's not that I think

867
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 2: I had the scout. This guy's not that good. And

868
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 2: so we coached against him, and after that game, I

869
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 2: was pretty convinced he was pretty good. He was pretty good.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we're out of time again. The Bearcats head

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Speaker 1: to Kansas. They'll travel tomorrow. They'll take on the Jayhawks

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Speaker 1: on Saturday at one o'clock. I hope you'll tune in

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Speaker 1: beginning of the pregame show at twelve thirty till then

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Speaker 1: for TNL coach Miller. I'm Dan Horde. You've been listening

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