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Speaker 1: Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: Let's Garden with Scott Berline is happening and you're a

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Speaker 2: part of it.

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Speaker 1: Give us a call if you want to.

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Speaker 2: Eight hundred and eighty two three eighty two fifty five.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about favorite plants. We'll be talking about AI

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Speaker 2: and gardening later, we'll be talking about mosquito, doomsday buckets

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Speaker 2: and maybe a few other things. We'll also be talking

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Speaker 2: with Nancy Lawson, the humane gardener that and we'll be

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Speaker 2: talking about fireflies, which will be really really cool, a

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Speaker 2: really great thing. So we got to go back and

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Speaker 2: revisit sweet potatoes because a couple of things came up

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Speaker 2: during the break.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: One is Mark Wessel Yes, our good external memory device.

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Speaker 3: And saving us from ourselves, saving.

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Speaker 1: Us our AI. Yeah, basically.

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Speaker 2: Mentioned that sweet potatoes are not members of the night

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Speaker 2: shade family, but potatoes are, and the Europeans, thinking that

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Speaker 2: they were both potatoes, assumed, yes, that the sweet potatoes

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Speaker 2: a nightshade family plant, right, and would not eat it.

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Speaker 3: But sweet potatoes are morning glory.

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Speaker 1: Which is also a very poisonous plant.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, fair enough.

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Speaker 2: So maybe they were onto something while being wrong on

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Speaker 2: something I don't know, Yeah, maybe, Yeah, And you had

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Speaker 2: a fun fact too that we missed earlier.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So another another piece of evidence that links

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Speaker 3: the sweet potato between Polynesia and Peru is that the

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Speaker 3: word that they use in both places is essentially the

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Speaker 3: same word.

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Speaker 1: That it's that sealed.

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Speaker 4: Right, So I think.

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Speaker 3: That's pretty like, how does a word just float across

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Speaker 3: the Atlantic?

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Speaker 1: Right? It does?

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Speaker 3: You know, a vine might float across the Atlantic, But

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure how a word does?

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Speaker 1: Do sweet potatoes float?

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Speaker 3: I don't wear the seeds, I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, usually you put them in a pot.

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Speaker 1: They just dropped at the bottom.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And then the other thing is would it survived

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Speaker 3: the salt water? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It would take months.

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Speaker 4: So it has some plants.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You're wrong, I'm wrong. Yeah, what's your next?

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Speaker 3: I have lots of plants on here. I'm gonna have

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Speaker 3: to pick one, so Rocky Mountain, blazing Star. I think

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Speaker 3: that's the forts style, okay, And the more commonly available

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Speaker 3: one is the e Liatrius packet of.

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Speaker 4: The Cobald right, which is great plan, which is.

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Speaker 3: A great plant, very vigorous. This plan is not quite

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Speaker 3: as full in the foliage. It doesn't grow quite as fast.

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Speaker 3: It seems to be a little bit more drought tolerant.

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Speaker 3: But I tell you what, it's like a beacon for

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Speaker 3: the monarchs. The minute that that plant starts blooming, the

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Speaker 3: monarchs show.

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Speaker 1: You showed me a video.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that was phenomenal at my old garden. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 3: just starting to open, and I saw a monarch on

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Speaker 3: it already.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And you know, we always hear about milkweed for monarchs,

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Speaker 3: but as an extra plant, there is something about that.

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Speaker 3: And the other lattress is good, but that one draws

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Speaker 3: it just in a weird way.

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Speaker 2: It's isn't it funny how certain plants draw certain insects

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Speaker 2: like that. My Jena garden flocks, oh yeah, is just starting.

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Speaker 2: And when that is in bloom, the tiger swallowtails are

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Speaker 2: all over it, and other swallow tails as.

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Speaker 4: Well, right, but especially tigers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very very cool. I wanted to mention.

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Speaker 2: Esquis part of a flora seratina, and I didn't know

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Speaker 2: it was a subvariety. But rogers, the cult of our rogers,

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Speaker 2: which is if you know bottle brush buckeye. It it's

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Speaker 2: out of bloom now.

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Speaker 1: It was in bloom. Yeah, three weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: Great plant, great, great, great plant, a big screening shrub,

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Speaker 2: great folio, stays clean all year, great big flowers for

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Speaker 2: the pollinators. What makes Rogers different is it's in bloom now,

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Speaker 2: so you can extend that that bottle brush buckeye bloom

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Speaker 2: planting Rogers. And it's a bigger plant with bigger flowers

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Speaker 2: that that tend or inflorescences which tend to like dip

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Speaker 2: down and then swing back up.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but such a great plant, taller than the species.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, supposedly. Yeah, a little bit bigger, a little bit

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Speaker 2: more suckering. So you want to use it in a

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Speaker 2: place where you've got.

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Speaker 4: Room, right, Yeah, we species.

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Speaker 3: You gotta be careful put that. But it's a great

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Speaker 3: plant for the right space, yep.

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Speaker 2: Needs to be used more often. And like you mentioned

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Speaker 2: last time, put it out, you know, in your garden

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Speaker 2: so you can see it from your windows, which is

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Speaker 2: always just such a treat, you know, why enjoy your

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Speaker 2: garden just as you're driving up.

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Speaker 1: And leaving in the morning. You want to be able

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Speaker 1: to look at it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, gardening has turned me into a person who keeps

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Speaker 3: my blinds open all the time because I just want

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Speaker 3: to see my garden.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, me too.

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Speaker 2: One more I'll mention and I'll let you run loose

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Speaker 2: right now, dire Villa. Kodiak Fresh is just going strong

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Speaker 2: at the zoo. Yeah, and you know the other the

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Speaker 2: series is great. There's Kodiak orange, red black. This fresh

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Speaker 2: is It's exactly like the name says. It just looks

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Speaker 2: vibrant and fresh. It's got a lot of color to

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Speaker 2: the foliage. This is a native plant that's great pollinators

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Speaker 2: and really tough for almost anything like shade, sun wherever

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Speaker 2: you want to put it. And I've been just blown

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Speaker 2: away by looking at Kodiak Fresh. It is bred by

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Speaker 2: I think we both know Megan Matthew at Spring Meadow Nursery,

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Speaker 2: part of the proven winter Line. But she's a young

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Speaker 2: woman that's doing great breeding with shrubs up there at

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Speaker 2: Spring Metal. Yeah, what's your next one?

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Speaker 3: I have gray headed cone flower, which.

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Speaker 1: Which is that one?

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, well, let's just say it's gray headed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't. It's a I think it's it's a

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Speaker 3: Rebeccia something. It is such a cool plant. When it

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Speaker 3: first emerges, it looks almost like little Sputnik. It looks otherworldly. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and then when it opens up it's it's these beautiful

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Speaker 3: kind of fluttering yellow flowers, and it's pretty tall. Goes up. Well,

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Speaker 3: well it's taller than me, which isn't hard, but you know,

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Speaker 3: five to six feet tall. And I had it at

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Speaker 3: my old place in a seated meadow, and then I

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Speaker 3: did some design meadows next to it, and it seated

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Speaker 3: in there. But I would say it seated in politely.

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Speaker 3: There are other things that seated in from that meadow

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Speaker 3: next door that have become problematic, but that's one that

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Speaker 3: it adds a lot of color. The pollinators love it,

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Speaker 3: and it doesn't seem to be a bully.

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Speaker 1: Well that's good. No one likes a bully.

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Speaker 3: Nobody doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Nobody likes.

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Speaker 3: I don't like bullies in my garden.

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Speaker 1: No, or in my life.

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Speaker 3: I don't like bullies at all. Yeah, that's my policy.

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Speaker 2: I've just never been able to pull off being a

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Speaker 2: bully myself, and bullies have caused me a lot of grief.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't think you should strive for that, Scott.

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Speaker 2: I know, but I got bigger as I grew older,

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Speaker 2: and I sometimes wish I could go back.

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Speaker 1: Find those people.

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Speaker 3: That's okay, you can move on. You have a nice garden.

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Speaker 2: Speaking and moving on, I have shade trees any down,

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Speaker 2: but you'd listed some specific ones, and I said shade

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Speaker 2: trees because we're heading right into another heat dome. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and my god, what a difference trees can make. So

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Speaker 2: what are some of the ones you mentioned?

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Speaker 3: Well, the two that I picked out for this week

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Speaker 3: are katalpa and walnuts, and I have both of them

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Speaker 3: on my new property. I've been there since September, and

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Speaker 3: I love the catalpa tree that it's actually not even

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Speaker 3: on my property, but it towers over my back patio

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Speaker 3: and it's beautiful and at this time of year, you know,

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Speaker 3: the leaves are fresh and green and they do this

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Speaker 3: kind of nice shingling effect.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the mature trees have so much character, and

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Speaker 3: then the large heart shaped leaves and the way they shingle,

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Speaker 3: and with the sea pods hanging down. Just the texture.

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Speaker 3: It's it's a very coarse texture, but it's so beautiful.

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Speaker 1: It really is.

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Speaker 2: And if you describe like you described it, most people

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Speaker 2: would say, oh, that doesn't sound that attractive, but when

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Speaker 2: you see it in person, the depth of what the

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Speaker 2: light does with the foliage grey depth. Yes, A three

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Speaker 2: dimension and then the pods, which some people complain because

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Speaker 2: they fall, but right now they're absolutely right.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's why I picked catalpa and walnuts from my

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Speaker 3: favorite plants right now, because they both look great and

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Speaker 3: their ayances have not have not shown up yet.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So, Wana is one of those trees that Gardner's hate,

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Speaker 2: generally speaking because of the ale lopathy that it can cause.

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Speaker 3: Yes, although I've heard that's been overstated and the origins

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Speaker 2: So yeah, but the argument goes on. You know, it's

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Speaker 2: a tree that's usually lost. It has lost its foliage

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Speaker 2: by late August without any fall color or anything.

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Speaker 1: It drops a gazillion walnuts.

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Speaker 3: Drum draws, be my favorite tree and fall. No, no,

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Speaker 3: but it looks great now, you know.

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Speaker 2: And in the right place in the back forty in

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Speaker 2: the woods. And if you've ever seen a fully mature

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Speaker 2: walnut tree, it is magnificent. Yes, just a really, really,

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Speaker 2: really beautiful I.

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Speaker 3: Have a cops of them in the back of my property.

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Speaker 3: It's the perfect spot for them because it's not my way,

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Speaker 3: and the character that that lent to the winter tree line,

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Speaker 3: it was just enormous. Yeah, yeah, just incredible.

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Speaker 2: We'll tell you about Sarah. We'll wrap up favorite plants

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Speaker 2: right now. We both had more on our list. Maybe

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Speaker 2: we'll get back to them later, but for now, we

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Speaker 2: are going to take another break, and when we come back,

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Speaker 2: you will want to stick around. We'll go to some

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Speaker 2: news items and different things that I think are really

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Speaker 2: going to be fun and interesting, and so yeah, stay

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Speaker 2: tuned for that. We'll be back in just a few minutes.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back. You're listening to That's Garden with Scott Berlin.

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Speaker 2: I'm here with Sarah Geiger theme from Wimberg. Wimberg Landscaping

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Speaker 1: I think now.

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Speaker 2: One is I just love this this idea that's come

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Speaker 2: So here's what I've got and you can add and

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Speaker 1: Uh huh? You can. You can buy anything online. You

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Speaker 2: So here's how you would make one. You get a

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Speaker 3: Mosquito dunks are way easier.

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Speaker 4: To say, yeah, much easier in mosquito bits.

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Speaker 3: You can get them in the rings or in the littles.

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Speaker 2: And they're inexpensive. You can buy them at any garden center.

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Speaker 2: And so mother mosquit is flying around. She's like, I

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Speaker 2: and she's flying around and flying around. She sees a

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Speaker 3: Well, when you explain it like that, I feel a

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Speaker 1: About it about mosquitos.

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Speaker 2: And so when those eggs hatch, the little wigglers, they

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Speaker 1: Yes, they do, they meet their doom. Ye.

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Speaker 3: I made one for my home garden, I guess two

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the eggs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And it also doesn't kill the adults, and they

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Speaker 2: And yeah, they say to put it in a shaded, quiet,

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Speaker 1: Especially if they're partial to mosquitoes.

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Speaker 2: Know, yeah, yeah, somewhere out of the way. Mama will

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Speaker 2: This was Frank's red hot sauce. No accidents were caused,

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Red Frank's Red Hot. Okay, so one of the things.

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Speaker 2: So facts about Red Frank's Red Hot it was. It's

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Speaker 2: Blended originally by Adam Estillette and Jacob Frank of Frank

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Speaker 2: at four point fifty on the Scovial scale, which is

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Speaker 2: Nineteen sixty four. It became the hot Sauce of Buffalo wings.

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Speaker 2: It became a big business sold in twenty countries. Over

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Speaker 1: That's enough.

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Speaker 3: That is a lot of sauce.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred and thirty thousand gallons made every day.

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Speaker 2: That's enough for thirty Olympic sized swim pools. I don't

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Speaker 2: Let's steny to That's guarden with Scott Berlin. I'm here

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Speaker 1: More glad to be here, owner of Verdigree.

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Speaker 2: Plant farm, designer at Wimberg Landscaping, beekeeper, all kinds of things,

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Speaker 1: Which is Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That's where those common names will just throw you right

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So let's talk.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it has, It has a lot of promise. I'm

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Speaker 2: with seed starting, Yeah, that almost all the information on

439
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 2: the Internet is going to be by reliable sources who

440
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 2: are researching or producing or propagating plants. Yeah, and so

441
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 2: you're going to more than likely get good information by

442
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 2: asking about something so technical.

443
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: But if you ask a more general gardning question.

444
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 2: Absolutely a lot of the AI sources or just just

445
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 2: casting a net over the entire Internet, yes, and coming

446
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 2: up with just what's most out there, whether it's wrong

447
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 2: or right right, And that's you know, that's where you

448
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 2: have to kind.

449
00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 3: Of I think you really have to be very specific.

450
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 3: So there's this idea in programming like junk and junk

451
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 3: out or something like that, and I think it's the

452
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 3: same with AI. And it's even the same with web browsers.

453
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 3: You know, like there's better and worse ways to search

454
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 3: the Internet. Well, there's better and worse ways to use AI.

455
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 3: And I'm seeing my clients starting to use it, and

456
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 3: it's funny. They're kind of hesitance, like, oh, is it okay?

457
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 3: I made the sketch and I actually appreciate it. I

458
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 3: think it's a great brainstorming tool. If a client takes

459
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 3: a picture of their house and they say, put a

460
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 3: prairie in front of it. Yeah, And it's as simple

461
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 3: as that, and the AI will come up with some

462
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 3: sort of digital sketch of what your house might look

463
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 3: like with these plants. Now, it doesn't know a thing

464
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 3: about your site. It doesn't know a thing about your

465
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 3: soils or like even the slope. It sometimes is kind

466
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 3: of stupid about I've seen clients send me pictures of

467
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 3: hardscapes that are impossible to construct, things like that. But

468
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 3: when I see that, I'm like, you like this, look, okay,

469
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 3: let's talk about how we can achieve that.

470
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 4: So it is helped me.

471
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 1: It's like a starting point.

472
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: Yes, when it comes to design and different things, and

473
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 2: you need to come in with that extra layer. And

474
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: I think you can specify when you search AI e

475
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 2: x T or extension sources.

476
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,719
Speaker 4: Or YES or pdf ORF.

477
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 5: Or ed U.

478
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 2: So you're you're screening out like all the Reddit guard

479
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 2: garbage and all the Facebook stuff. Yes, and you're getting

480
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 2: to you know, where scientists.

481
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 3: You really have to tell it where to look and

482
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: give it a lot of guidelines, Like sometimes I'm I'm

483
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 3: looking for I'm not a researcher, I'm a practitioner, but

484
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 3: I do like to consult the research, and so I've

485
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 3: built another project where I'm collecting plant trial data. And

486
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 3: so if I am designing a garden, it's like, oh,

487
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 3: you know, I think I need I need something that's

488
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 3: about this height, that's missing in this composition. So what

489
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 3: what are some good plants that have performed well? Or

490
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 3: the associate with these and will give me a list

491
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: of suggestions. But then as a professional, I have to

492
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 3: I have to evaluate what it's one hundred percent. Yeah.

493
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was impressed because you showed me a chat

494
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 2: you used mostly chat GPT.

495
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 3: I started with chat GPT and I've been using Claude lately.

496
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I forget which one it was, but where you

497
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 2: would put in you know, it's very conversational too.

498
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:28,719
Speaker 1: It's really interesting.

499
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 2: You said, Hey, I'm trying I want to build a

500
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 2: potting table, yes, that me and someone else can use.

501
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, I wanted to be good for

502
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: these things. Yeah, And I was blown away by the

503
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: suggestions it made.

504
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know it.

505
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: You know some of them weren't you know, like oh

506
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: that was a bad idea.

507
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 3: Right, or that's not what I meant. But yeah, yeah,

508
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 3: and I said, I wanted to be light in color

509
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 3: so I can see the roots well. But it needs

510
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,040
Speaker 3: to hold up outside and it also needs to be

511
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 3: able to stay clean so I can use it for entertaining.

512
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 3: And it's like, these are some good materials choices exactly.

513
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 2: And it had information about like you would if you

514
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 2: wanted this high and you said you wanted a high

515
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 2: air shelf for potting.

516
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 4: Mix, so you can just brush it off.

517
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it said if you wanted that high, it should

518
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: be no deeper than this. And it's like that's something

519
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: I would never have.

520
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 4: Thought of because then you can't reach over it.

521
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, right, So it's coming up with stuff that.

522
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 4: It's really helpful. Yeah.

523
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 2: And again you know, it's it's thinking, you know, it's it.

524
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: It doesn't have a motion, but it's thinking.

525
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 3: It is definitely processing.

526
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, process through the whole internet, finding all the what

527
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,239
Speaker 2: you know, it's not just the answer that you asked for,

528
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 2: but it's more than that, which just blew me away.

529
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's customized information. And I find that it

530
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 3: saves me a lot of just research time plowing. You know,

531
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 3: I'm a person that has thirty tabs open in my browser,

532
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 3: and you know, it kind of aves me for myself

533
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 3: and that and and it just gives me a decent answer.

534
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 2: Now for the average gardener just seeking an answer, you know,

535
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 2: why is my tomato not producing? You can just that

536
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 2: might just be a Google search. Yeah, you can go

537
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 2: in the AI mode and type in more information like

538
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 2: you know, it's hot, it's been hot.

539
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, my soil is.

540
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: This, and my tomatoes are producing.

541
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 3: And you will get better information that way than saying

542
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 3: why is my tomato six and putting a blurry picture yes,

543
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 3: and there, you know.

544
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 2: And that's part of it, garbage and garbage out. You

545
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: need to give a good information for a good answer.

546
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 2: There's you know, Google now has the AI mode. I

547
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: guess that's a good start for a lot of people.

548
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 2: But what are some of the other uh, you know,

549
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: is Chappy has a free version?

550
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they all have free versions. You just

551
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 3: you have a certain amount of credits that you can use,

552
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 3: and then if you use that, then you have to

553
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 3: start paying to get a certain amount. Yeah, it's like

554
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 3: a subscription.

555
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: You want me to pay for this?

556
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and you know the other things some

557
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 2: of the things like you know, being our new overlord

558
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 2: and things like that.

559
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: That we're not condoning that. No, we don't want any overlords,

560
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: let alone a computer.

561
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 3: Not big on it.

562
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: And we're not like you know, the data centers and

563
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: all that.

564
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: You know that that that is a problem that needs resolving.

565
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 3: That's above my pay grade. And it's fraught for sure,

566
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 3: But it does it doesn't seem like it's going anywhere,

567
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 3: and and it's very useful and we'll have to figure

568
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 3: out how we can live with it and stay human,

569
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 3: you know.

570
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: So ye, things are getting better and better with these things.

571
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 2: One thing is it's not really a I I don't

572
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: think maybe there's an element of it.

573
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: But like the plant id apps that.

574
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 4: Are out there, those are so much better, so much better.

575
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's still they still struggle.

576
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 5: You know.

577
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: There's things that you need.

578
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: You need a good picture, yes, preferably of a flower

579
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: or fruit.

580
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 3: Yes, some sort of distinguishing feature, and there's a learning

581
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 3: curve for figuring out what part of the plant really

582
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 3: counts in terms of.

583
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 2: Innernodes, and you know, things that it uses to separate

584
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: one similar plant from another. I did a little bit

585
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: of a look on there's a study out there from

586
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 2: Michigan State about the quality of publications of plant identification.

587
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: Apps. And it's pretty interesting, you know, look get through this.

588
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 3: I thought I had I use I Naturalists most of

589
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 3: the time.

590
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: That was one they said.

591
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 3: But I have noticed that there was a time when

592
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 3: that seemed like the best one. But I've noticed that

593
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 3: they've all really kind of caught up.

594
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's what are there?

595
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: There's picture this lens right, yeah, lenses through Google. Okay,

596
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 2: I thought there was one more.

597
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 3: I remember and seek as the same engine as I Naturalists.

598
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 3: Oh okay, it's just a different interface.

599
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 2: Okay, but the study you can find it if you.

600
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: Let's see what it's called plant Identification question Mark. There's

601
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: an app for that, actually several. It was written by

602
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 2: Aaron Hill from Michigan State University in twenty in this

603
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 2: year May fourth, twenty twenty six.

604
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: So this is right up to date, really good.

605
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, shows a lot of examples of where it gets

606
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 2: things right and wrong.

607
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: Let's see you looking at my own notes again.

608
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 2: A great tool, but not perfect good at identifying the

609
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: plant family or genius genus at the species level gets

610
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 2: a little tricky. I think at the cultivar level, it's

611
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 2: not there yet.

612
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 3: No, I don't even think it. It's not it's not

613
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 3: built for that. I don't think they really care about it.

614
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: I think they can get to that though.

615
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 4: They could, yea, they could.

616
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

617
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: And if it's just you know, searching the internet and

618
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 2: the pictures of cultivars are out there, maybe aile there. Yeah,

619
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 2: it's bad at knowing your conditions and what typically goes

620
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 2: does well in your region, your ecosystem, your microclimate, your soils,

621
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 2: and on down the line. So you know, keep that

622
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 2: in mind when you plug in what you know, give

623
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: me a garden design. Honestly, I feel like if you're

624
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 2: asking for a garden design, it should you should just

625
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 2: use it for ideas on the shape of the garden

626
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 2: and you know how what might work here and there.

627
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 2: Plant selection, I think you really need to rely on

628
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 2: somebody that knows plants. Absolutely it says here would not

629
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 2: rely on it for plants.

630
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: Oh that I just did.

631
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 2: That not likely to provide creative and fun answers to problems.

632
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 2: So you know that's where especially an experienced designer or

633
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 2: just a really artistic designer would be very valuable.

634
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

635
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 2: But anyway, it's it's really interesting stuff. There's a lot

636
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 2: to learn about it. Uh, And I think it's just

637
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 2: gonna get better and better. Yeah, and you know, we

638
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 2: need to figure this out right.

639
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 3: Yeah. And and just to to underscore the importance of

640
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 3: having an expert, we're already seeing some clients who are

641
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 3: approaching us with quote unquote a full design and asking

642
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 3: us to install it.

643
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

644
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 3: And uh, you know, of course none of our listeners

645
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 3: would do this because they are avid gardeners and they

646
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 3: and they know better. But yeah, you can't unless you

647
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 3: are skilled at plant design. I would not trust any

648
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 3: plant design that comes out of AI, at least at

649
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 3: this point. And so we've had pushback like no, just

650
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 3: tell me the cost to install these plants. It's like, well, no,

651
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 3: we don't really do it that way.

652
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 1: Which plants will die? And how soon?

653
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 3: Yeah?

654
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: Okay, yep, we need to go ahead and take a

655
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: break again. Yeah, when we come back, we'll talk maybe

656
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 2: a little bit more about this in a couple other things,

657
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: and then real soon we have Nancy Lawson, the Humane

658
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 2: gardener from a blog site website, really good stuff. She'll

659
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 2: be here to talk about fireflies back in just a

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Speaker 1: I am Scott Berline.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to Let's Garden with me, and I'm here

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Speaker 2: with Sarah Geiger Beam, who's looking at something on our computer.

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Speaker 3: I was trying to pull up the Facebook group, the

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Speaker 3: Facebook group Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Odell just sent a beautiful video of a huge

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Speaker 2: planning of esculus part of.

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Speaker 1: A floor, bottlebrush buck up. Yea.

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Speaker 3: I've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah in a residential area too, which was just really

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Speaker 2: really cool.

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Speaker 1: Kevin.

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Speaker 2: If you're if you put that on, just share that

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Speaker 2: on my personal Facebook pot page.

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Speaker 1: People can check that out.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of I will be starting Facebook, Instagram.

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Speaker 4: TikTok social media.

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Speaker 2: Social media in general for the show, and I hope

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Speaker 2: to have that by next week. We'll be sharing lists,

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Speaker 2: photos of links, so I think that'll be a companion

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Speaker 2: to the show. In a few minutes, we'll have Nancy

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Speaker 2: Laws in the Human Gardener talking about fireflies. I am

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Speaker 2: very excited about that, and so a couple other news

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Speaker 2: items I just wanted to cover real fast, and this

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Speaker 2: came out of country folks Grower Magazine, Midwest magazine, Seed

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Speaker 2: Your Future, which isn't a nonprofit that's all about finding

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Speaker 2: or creating or introducing jobs in horticulture to young people especially,

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Speaker 2: but anybody that's interested, Yeah, very interested, Like any trade.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, those jobs the easiest field to get into or

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Speaker 3: to quite know what.

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Speaker 1: To do, takes experience.

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Speaker 2: But that's what this whole organization is about, is showing

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Speaker 2: the depth and breadth of jobs and careers in horticulture.

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Speaker 2: And they just started this camp. Well, they started a

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Speaker 2: campaign back in May, but it's running through the July seventeenth,

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Speaker 2: so it's hashtag I Am Horticulture. It's a social media

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Speaker 2: campaign where a lot of people in the profession have

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Speaker 2: videotaped themselves talking about their job, how they arrived at it.

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Speaker 2: And it's one thing I don't think many people know

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Speaker 2: at all is when you're talking horticulture, they visualize mowing

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Speaker 2: lawns or installing gardens, and those are jobs and valid

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Speaker 2: jobs and good jobs. But there's also landscape designers such

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Speaker 2: as yourself. There are growers, there are breeders, there's propagations specially.

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Speaker 2: There are researchers. Yes, there are instructors, college professors, marketing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there are places to go, you know, if you

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Speaker 3: if you don't want to stay on a mower or

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Speaker 3: don't want to stay in the field. I stayed in

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Speaker 3: the field for quite a while, and I think it

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to yes, I don't want to diminish that.

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Speaker 3: If anything, I'm always championing like time in the field.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, you don't. You don't have to sit on

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Speaker 3: a mower or hold a string trimmer for your entire career.

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Speaker 1: You does a little bit because it makes you better.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: One of the things I did when I was learning horticulture,

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Speaker 2: which I had to do on my own because I'm

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Speaker 2: second career, but I would go to work in garden

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Speaker 2: centers in the summer, just extra like in addition to

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Speaker 2: my regular job a few hours every week, one particular

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Speaker 2: garden center because they were really good with annuals.

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Speaker 1: I needed to learn annuals.

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Speaker 3: And there's no faster way to learn a lot of

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Speaker 3: plants than working in a greenhouse.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh yeah, another summer or two with perennial

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Speaker 2: specialists and one with just with Peter Zail just major plant. Yeah, Uh,

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Speaker 2: expert is one way of describing them. You know, savant

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Speaker 2: is it another just genius genius level plants?

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Speaker 3: Well, I would say, I mean for young people getting

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Speaker 3: into the field, you really you got to find those people.

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Speaker 3: It's it's a field that is really big on personal

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Speaker 3: relationships and informal mentorships. And I love that about the field.

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Speaker 3: Everyone is so helpful to each other. But you've got

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Speaker 3: to get connected to those people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, I'm one of the Perennial plan Association.

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Speaker 2: You are too, in Michigan in a few weeks, and

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Speaker 2: what I have seen there was just the best horticulturist

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Speaker 2: in the country going out of their way to mentor

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Speaker 2: new people is just so exciting and so cool. And

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Speaker 2: it's throughout this business. There are a few people who

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Speaker 2: aren't very friendly, but very very few. The vast majority

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Speaker 2: wants you to succeed and do great. So, yeah, we're

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Speaker 2: going back to a break. We're going to have Nancy

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Speaker 2: Lawson when we get back, talk about fireflies. She has

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Speaker 2: a great website, The Humane Gardner. You gotta check it out.

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Speaker 2: But we'll have fun talking about one of those special

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Speaker 2: things about summer.

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Speaker 1: In just a few minutes we'll be back pure solution

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Speaker 1: and station.

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