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Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike Sincy three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: sponsored in part by Skyline Chili. Stop by Skyline Chili

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Speaker 1: for a three way or cheese cony Today. Feeling good,

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Speaker 1: It's Skyline Time. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Hello, good afternoon, Welcome in to the latest edition of

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Speaker 2: Cincy three sixty. Thank you for listening on the Home

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Speaker 3: How about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's start today by doing that. If you're listening

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Speaker 2: right now and you're on the app, just go ahead

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Speaker 2: and make us a favorite.

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Speaker 4: Just do it, Just preset it. It's just like the

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Speaker 4: radio days of years gone by.

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Speaker 2: It's easy stuff. It's really not that hard. While you're

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Speaker 2: at it, go visit our friends at Skyline Chili. We

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Speaker 2: thank them here and hour number one. Anytime you're feeling

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Speaker 2: good and hungry, it's Skyline time.

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Speaker 3: You know. Cincinnati Chili Week is coming.

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Speaker 5: Up.

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Speaker 3: Oh is it?

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Speaker 4: It's at the end of this month, February twenty third

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Speaker 4: through March first. It's obviously one of the great great

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Speaker 4: weeks of the year, if not the best. We should

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Speaker 4: do something in studio a week of the year. How

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Speaker 4: about like a competition?

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Speaker 3: Yes, now you would have to actually eat the hot dogs. Okay,

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Speaker 3: you're down. Can't do a chili cheese sandwich eating contest?

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Speaker 3: I mean I'm open to anything, Okay, phony Cony, do

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Speaker 3: you ever do you put crackers on your like three ways? No? No,

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Speaker 3: Now I get my three way light spaghetti. Okay.

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Speaker 2: So after I'm done with the actual three way, there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of chili still left. Sure, and then I'll

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Speaker 2: take some crackers and some cheese and kind of mush that.

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Speaker 3: All that up. You ever put any hot sauce on there?

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Speaker 3: No hot sauce. Not a hot sauce guy. Okay, But again,

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Speaker 3: I shared this a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: You know, I was always kind of torn when I

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Speaker 2: would go to Skyline because I love the chili cheese

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Speaker 2: fries too, of course, but normally I'm like, give me

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Speaker 2: a three way, give me two chili cheese sandwich is

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Speaker 2: plain and in twenty twenty six, I add a water.

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Speaker 3: What do you mean by plane? You don't get what

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Speaker 3: it was? No mustard, neither one, No dude, And now

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Speaker 3: again you're just a difficult person to respect.

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Speaker 2: Thank you based off your choices. In twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 2: I get water. I don't get a soda. And so

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Speaker 2: when I take my kids, which is now in every

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Speaker 2: Friday thing, Oh so in the Pike house, tomorrow's a

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Speaker 2: big day. Friday comes and I usually take the kids

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Speaker 2: for a couple hours to get them out of the house,

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Speaker 2: allow mayor just time to decompress. Sure, these kids are feral,

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Speaker 2: they've been out of school for a while. And uh,

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Speaker 2: every Friday, and this is this is the honest truth.

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Speaker 2: Every Friday, I say to Wilder and Wesley, where do

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Speaker 2: you want to go to dinner with Dad tonight? Every

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Speaker 2: Friday they pick skyline Satan.

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Speaker 3: Do you even ask anymore? Yes?

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Speaker 2: I still ask, but I know the answer. But now,

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Speaker 2: as I mentioned, usually it was they both go and

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Speaker 2: get a get a cheese cony. That doesn't benefit me much.

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Speaker 2: Now Wilder gets a food or a chili cheese fries.

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Speaker 3: And so you start picking off his place.

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Speaker 2: He eats about half or three quarters up the then

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Speaker 2: I get a couple extra ones.

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Speaker 4: Again, the respect is difficult to muster. Thank you based

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Speaker 4: off the way you can today Cincinnati Chili Week.

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Speaker 2: Can't today, Keegan nickoson Bearkat Journal dot Com at two o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Also today, the Kentucky Barrels, a F one arena league.

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Speaker 2: Their owner Corey Cunningham, is going to be in studio

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Speaker 2: to join us today right after talkbacks go to talk

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Speaker 2: about everything that the Kentucky Barrels have going for them.

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Speaker 2: Also are normal talkbacks and we are allowing ourselves today Austin,

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Speaker 2: really for the first time in the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: We're going to dive into the Super Bowl. Yeah, finally

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Speaker 2: talk the Super Bowl. We're going to do some read

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Speaker 2: in itself.

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Speaker 3: There's some drama with the injury reports, yep, for both teams.

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Speaker 3: Some stuff happened yesterday at Seahawks practice, and people have

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Speaker 3: been really cracking down on the video of Drake May

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Speaker 3: talking to the media over the weekend. But he was

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Speaker 3: a full participant yesterday. But the injury that was suffered

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Speaker 2: Okay, also happening right now, Team USA women's hockey has

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Speaker 4: I mean they're just killing them, beating them like a

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Speaker 2: Now you may be wondering, what do you mean, Team

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Speaker 2: USA the Olympics that the opening ceremonies are tomorrow. Well,

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Speaker 2: events have started. We already have events happening in Milan

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Speaker 2: right now, Team USA four check one.

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Speaker 3: Am, I like, is this a bad take?

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Speaker 4: I don't like that they play games before the opening ceremony. No,

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's an issue. I'm the same way.

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Speaker 2: I wonder why this is the case now. Earlier today,

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Speaker 2: Austin mixed doubles curling, Yes, what's happening of course, and

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Speaker 2: again Olympics haven't started yet, but the mixed doubles curling has.

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Speaker 2: And we mentioned yesterday that Norway is one of those

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Speaker 2: teams to keep an eye on. They are the odds

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Speaker 2: on favorite to win the most gold medals. Or Team

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Speaker 2: USA mixed doubles curling. They went and they made an

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Speaker 2: already two and zero. Team USA Women's hockey already on

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Speaker 2: Olympics are continuing on, we have a deadline today. Austin

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Speaker 2: three o'clock is the deadline in the National Basketball Association

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Speaker 2: for the trade deadline. We've seen a couple other moves

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Speaker 2: since we last spoke yesterday the Wash.

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Speaker 3: The Golden State.

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Speaker 2: Warriors moved on from Jonathan Kaminga and Buddy Healed, and

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Speaker 2: in return they land chrisps poor Zingis. Porzingis still got

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Speaker 2: anything in the tank.

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't know anything about the status of

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Speaker 4: one Chris Stops poor Zingis, but you know, I bet

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Speaker 4: you know if Joe Daniman is listening, Yeah, he's a

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Speaker 4: big Warriors fan. If he wants to call in and

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Speaker 4: just give us a brief synopsis of what he thinks

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Speaker 4: this means, that would be great.

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Speaker 2: Chris Stops poor Zingis is now a Warrior. Oh Stops

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Speaker 2: Stops They don't get many of them now. Lakers got

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Speaker 2: Luke Canard, Yes, local product, Luke Canard is a Laker

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Speaker 2: alongside of Lebron James Now and I believe the Bulls

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Speaker 2: have acquired their nineteenth and twentieth second round selections.

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Speaker 3: I think they have.

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Speaker 4: I think the Bulls have fourteen total second round picks

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Speaker 4: at the moment. By the way, I just want to

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Speaker 4: go back to Luke Canard for a second. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 4: having an excellent season. Yes, I don't know if you've

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Speaker 4: seen this or not, but from the field, he's shooting

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Speaker 4: fifty four percent.

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Speaker 3: Not bad.

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Speaker 4: From the three point line, he's shooting fifty percent. I

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Speaker 4: mean he's averaging eight points a game, two assists, two rebounds.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the guy is not going to, you know,

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Speaker 4: be Michael Jordan. But hell, when you're shooting fifty three

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Speaker 4: and you're playing alongside now Lebron and Luca, who, what

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Speaker 4: do they need?

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Speaker 3: Space? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Now you give the Laker space with Canard that can

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Speaker 2: post up and hopefully hit fifty percent of his shots.

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Speaker 3: Luke Canard has had a very good and long NBA career.

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Speaker 3: Good for him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, He's played with multiple multiple teams, Detroit, the Clippers,

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Speaker 2: the Grizzlies, the Hawks and now the Lakers. Yeah, very

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Speaker 2: cool stuff. Congrats to Luke Kennard. The big name today

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Speaker 2: is the Milwaukee Bucks and Giannis Antetokumpo. The latest is

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Speaker 2: that the Bucks don't feel a pressure to trade Giannis.

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Speaker 2: It's not like it's do or die here. If they

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Speaker 2: get the right if they get the right offer, then

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Speaker 2: they're willing to do it, but they don't have to

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Speaker 2: do it right now. It looks like the two main

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Speaker 2: suitors for Giannis would be the Minnesota Timberwolves in the

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Speaker 2: Miami Heat. So outside of a wild card team that

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Speaker 2: comes over the next few hours, that's what it looks

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Speaker 2: like around Giannis and around the Milwaukee Bucks. The ncuble

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Speaker 2: A did something they don't normally do Austin. They denied

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Speaker 2: a waiver. They denied an appeal my old miss quarterback

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Speaker 2: Trinidad Chambliss. They said, nah, baby nah to his sixth

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Speaker 2: year eligibility waiver, which means, I think he takes them

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Speaker 2: to court. I think it'll be settled by the courts

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Speaker 2: in the state of Mississippi. Oh boy, to figure out

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Speaker 2: whether or not Trinidad Chambliss is going to be able

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Speaker 2: to return to college.

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Speaker 3: Because if you don't get your way. You just take

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Speaker 3: him to court.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 4: He is an interesting name, though, I think if he

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Speaker 4: were to be in the NFL draft, because I think

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Speaker 4: the top two quarterbacks are obviously Fernando Mendoza and then

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Speaker 4: Dante More of Oregon, but after that there's quite the

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Speaker 4: drop off, and I wonder you know how NFL teams

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Speaker 4: would view Chambliss.

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Speaker 2: Former Red Miguel and Juhar has signed with the Padres.

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Speaker 4: Meggie, Meggie, Maggie. Can't you see now? How about this?

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Speaker 2: In the world of baseball, Framber Valdez has agreed to

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Speaker 2: a three year, one hundred and one hundred and fifteen

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Speaker 2: million dollar deal with the Detroit Tigers.

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Speaker 4: Don't understand this because I think it was yesterday that

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Speaker 4: the Tigers and Trek Skubol had their arbitration here and

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Speaker 4: I don't know what the status of that is. I

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Speaker 4: don't know when we get it. But the reason that's

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Speaker 4: happening is because the Tigers won't give Trek school ball

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Speaker 4: thirty two million dollars a year.

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Speaker 2: Crazy he wants thirty two. The Tigers counted at nineteen.

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Speaker 4: They counted at nineteen, and then they signed Framber Valdez

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Speaker 4: to thirty eight million a year.

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Speaker 3: Now, that doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Make any sense if they if they reached the arbitration

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you talk about probably one of

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Speaker 2: the more deadly or won two punches in all of.

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Speaker 4: Baseball, no doubt. I mean, that's a team that needs

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Speaker 4: to still figure out their offense. But Framber Valdez has

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Speaker 4: been a bit of a roller coaster lately. But still

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Speaker 4: to have two left handed starters of that caliber in

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Speaker 4: your rotation makes Detroit a viable team, especially when you

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Speaker 4: look at that division. Now, the White Sox I think

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Speaker 4: have made some decent moves. The Guardians have done nothing,

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Speaker 4: I mean nothing. The Royals I think are just kind

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Speaker 4: of stuck in the mud and aren't really going anywhere.

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Speaker 4: When you look at that division, I mean, it's Detroit's

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Speaker 4: to lose. Really, who's the other.

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Speaker 3: Team in that? I'm forgetting White Sox Royals? Twins?

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Speaker 4: Twins, Yeah, twins. They just tore it down to the studs. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: how about this, The Troy's gonna run away with it.

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Speaker 4: How about the Columbus Blue Jackets, Dude, I wrote that down.

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Speaker 2: Ten one and oh. Under their new coach Rick Bonus,

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Speaker 2: Rick Bonus shutouts and back to back games for the

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Speaker 2: first time in franchise history.

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Speaker 4: We've never been recognized by the folks at Barrett Sports Media.

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Speaker 5: Back on for cover Star suppleging.

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Speaker 6: In front the United States on the power play makes

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Speaker 3: Lead in Milan.

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Speaker 7: It's a good luck, a funneling bucks. I shot volume

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Speaker 2: You know in hockey Austin, they say pucks on the net,

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Speaker 2: this to say.

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Speaker 3: This was Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone knows the term defense wins championship, and we've

439
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Speaker 2: got to start with that first thing. We've got to

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Speaker 2: work on that, and we can worry about the offensive side.

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Speaker 2: We got the weapons for that. We've been having the weapons,

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Speaker 2: but by far everyone knows the defense has to be

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Speaker 2: right to get back here. They also went on to

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Speaker 2: talk about players that seem like they would be good

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Speaker 2: fits for the Cincinnati Bengals, and Jamar Chase mentioned Max

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Speaker 2: Crosby and T Higgins mentioned Jeffrey Simmons. T said, I

447
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Speaker 2: think we should go get someone on the D line,

448
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Speaker 2: said Max Crosby, Jeffrey Simmons. That's two dogs that you're

449
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Speaker 2: gonna need for sure, Austin. If they just go get

450
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Speaker 2: those two guys, I think they could be right back

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Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl, no doubt about it. Max Crosby

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Speaker 2: and Jeffrey Simmons.

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Speaker 4: You would also probably say goodbye to Orrin Burke's, Cody Ford,

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Speaker 4: b J.

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Speaker 5: Hill.

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Speaker 4: You'd move on from a couple of guys to try

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Speaker 4: to make that make sense. Okay, we'd have to probably

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Speaker 4: do a restructure of Joe Burrow's contract. There'd be a

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Speaker 4: lot of things that would need to be done financially

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Speaker 4: to make that work.

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Speaker 3: But hell, I'm alright with that.

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Speaker 2: You already mentioned the time with Crosby and the Raiders

463
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Speaker 2: coming to an ENDJ Glazier talked a lot about this

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Speaker 2: yesterday on Radio Road that said he believes a move

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Speaker 2: will happen before the draft. It's Max's decision. They don't

466
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Speaker 2: want to do it, but he has essentially told the

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Speaker 2: Raiders he is not in a position to go through

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Speaker 2: another rebuild. The question then, and I don't have this answer.

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Speaker 2: This is something we can maybe talk to Charlie about tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Do the Bengals have the assets to pull off a

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Speaker 2: trade like that for Max Crosby?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think when you have a top ten pick,

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Speaker 4: if the you know, if the Raiders were picking number

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Speaker 4: one and then again at number ten, that would be

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Speaker 4: enough to at least start the conversation.

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Speaker 2: For the tenth pick in Max Trosby.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I would I think so too. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I would give up number ten. He's under contract through

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty nine. It would require more than that. They

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Speaker 3: would probably want a first next year. I don't know

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Speaker 3: that i'd want to do that.

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Speaker 2: But again, if he's signed for three years and you

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Speaker 2: talk about the championship window and having Burrow and Chase

484
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Speaker 2: and Higgins, I mean, that's your window.

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Speaker 4: Right, yeah, and I do, just I don't know financially

486
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Speaker 4: how it would work out just because he signed a

487
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Speaker 4: monster deal. So yeah, so I'm open to that. But

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Speaker 4: does that negatively affect your ability to build the rest

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Speaker 4: of the defense because you talk about Henderson maybe not

490
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Speaker 4: fitting the bill. I mean, that's another ten million dollars

491
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Speaker 4: basically that you're having to pay per year to Max Crowsby.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know exactly how it's it's structured, but

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I would love it.

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Speaker 2: Yep, all right, we just made it happen. Let Jamar

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Speaker 2: Chase pull the strings.

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Speaker 4: But I do think, you know, there's something to the

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Speaker 4: idea of what they're saying, which is that the pass

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Speaker 4: rush needs to be improved, and specifically the interior of

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Speaker 4: the pass rush. Paul Danner Junior has written like a

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Speaker 4: three part series about the Bengals defensive line and specifically

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Speaker 4: about pass rush. And it is kind of amazing when

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Speaker 4: you see the numbers of the four teams that played

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Speaker 4: on Championship weekend compared to the Bengals. The Pro Football

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Speaker 4: Focus ranking of starting defensive tackle tandems in pressures this

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Speaker 4: past season, so combined pressures from the two defensive tackles

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Speaker 4: from the Denver Broncos had one hundred and twelve. The

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Speaker 4: Seahawks had one hundred and eight, The Lass Angelus Rams

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Speaker 4: had a ninety seven, the Patriots had eighty six. Those

509
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 4: are the top four to the final four remaining teams

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Speaker 4: in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: The Bengals had forty eight forty eight incredible.

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Speaker 4: That is like just over half what the Patriots had,

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Speaker 4: not quite what the Rams had, well below Seattle and Denver.

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Speaker 3: Incredible.

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Speaker 4: And for the specifics, BJ Hill had twenty nine of those.

516
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Speaker 3: TJ. Slayton had nineteen.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy to think, like, because everyone knows it about

518
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 2: the Bengals, there's just different ways they go about it.

519
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 2: It's one of the beautiful things about Jamar Chase. He'll

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00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 2: just tell you straight up gay that needs to be addressed.

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Speaker 2: That was bad last year. Yeah, and I appreciate it,

522
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Speaker 2: and I do again. I love Jamar Chase for that

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Speaker 2: and appreciate how he goes about things.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you need to say the quiet part out loud. Well,

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Speaker 3: I love about Jamarrris knows it, but he's saying it.

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Speaker 4: He'll say something and then he'll be like, if I'm

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Speaker 4: being honest, right, It was like, that's one of his

528
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Speaker 4: like things. But you know, here's the one. The one

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Speaker 4: guy that I think makes a lot of sense is

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Speaker 4: Jeffrey Simmons. Yeah, he's making this coming season twenty million

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Speaker 4: dollars feasible next year twenty three million dollars. If you're

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Speaker 4: gonna go and get a top flight pass rusher, that's

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Speaker 4: about the range you're gonna pay.

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Speaker 2: And like in that perfect mold, twenty eight years old.

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Speaker 4: Twenty Yeah, he's gonna be twenty nine at the start

536
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Speaker 4: of next year. Yep, thirty after that the Bats when

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00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 4: the Bengals typically move on from players like him. Now,

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Speaker 4: Tennessee has a ton of cap space, Like that's not

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Speaker 4: an issue for them at all. Sure, and I think

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Speaker 4: they do have some decent pieces on defense that they

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Speaker 4: feel comfortable with. I don't know if they're even interested

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Speaker 4: in moving off of him, I would assume with Robert

543
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Speaker 4: sala as head coach, they're not.

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Speaker 3: It probably got you built around.

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Speaker 4: But if you were to offer two first round picks

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Speaker 4: for him, or a first and a third, maybe that's

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Speaker 4: something that could happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that would go into like the creativity that obviously

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Speaker 2: you want the Bengals to have as they approach this

550
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Speaker 2: upcoming offseason. Let's break, let's come back, let's dive into

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Speaker 2: the super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: It's I want something on the record, Okay, I think

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Speaker 4: the Bengals are going to be very proactive in free

554
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 4: agency this year. Okay, you know we had I think

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Speaker 4: Kevin left our buyer sell a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 4: Bengals being spenders. I think the Bengals are going to spend. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I really do.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I hope so write that down all right, I

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Speaker 2: got that right now, thank you. February fifth, Bengals.

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Speaker 4: Spenders will be spenders, the Bengals and the s at

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Speaker 4: the end of Bengals is a dollar sign?

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Speaker 2: Oh I say, maybe it's a Z spenders. Okay, we'll

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Speaker 2: go with that. We'll take a break, we'll come back.

564
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Speaker 2: The game itself that's happening Sunday. We'll talk some Seahawks

565
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Speaker 2: and Patriots next on this the Home of the Bengals,

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati.

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Speaker 8: Sports Dudy's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back since he three to six, the esp fifteen

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Speaker 2: at Skyline Chile. Anytime you're feeling good and hungry, it's

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Speaker 2: Skyline time. The super Bowl itself six point thirty on

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Speaker 2: Sunday evening, Austin. We will do some read and react

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Speaker 2: in our number three as it pertains to the super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: or maybe we'll do it to kick off our number two.

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Speaker 2: Either way, we'll get more into this. But as you

576
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Speaker 2: look at the game, just kind of from the overhead

577
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: view of maybe some matchups that struck you right away

578
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Speaker 2: or your initial thought when you think Seahawks Patriots Super Bowl,

579
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Speaker 2: what came to mind?

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Speaker 4: What does Mike McDonald do to mess with Drake May

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Speaker 4: Because you know, Drake hasn't necessarily played great over the

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Speaker 4: course of the playoffs. He's a little bit banged up

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Speaker 4: with the shoulder. I just I do think there's something

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Speaker 4: to the experience of Mike Vrabel and especially Josh McDaniels

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Speaker 4: to kind of simplify everything for Drake May. But I

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Speaker 4: just think Mike McDonald has this mad scientist feel and

587
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Speaker 4: is going to throw some stuff at Drake May and

588
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Speaker 4: the Patriots that he's not seen before. And I think

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Speaker 4: the biggest thing is do you have a plan for

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Speaker 4: May and his ability to run? And I think that's

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Speaker 4: one of the big equalizers in this game because if

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Speaker 4: you have to assign somebody to spy Drake May on

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Speaker 4: every snap that's taken one guy out of coverage, that's

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Speaker 4: taken one guy out of the pass rush, is how

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Speaker 4: is that going to affect the rest of the plan

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Speaker 4: for Seattle? And do the Patriots try to show that

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Speaker 4: off right away and create that threat and get them

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Speaker 4: out of whatever their base plan might be. I think

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Speaker 4: that's gonna be critical in the cat and mouse of

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Speaker 4: the game. It's all to me upfront and the looks

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Speaker 4: that Mike McDonald is giving to Drake May. That's gonna

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Speaker 4: determine how good or really how much the Patriots you know,

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Speaker 4: can hang in this game. Because I think most people

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Speaker 4: assume it's going to be a blowout.

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Speaker 2: At the quarterbacks in this game because it's unique, right

606
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Speaker 2: because people will still You'll still have people. And Joe Daneman,

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Speaker 2: we had him on Tuesday, he said, the only path

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Speaker 2: I see for New England winning is Sam Donald turning

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Speaker 2: into the pumpkin. It's kind of what everyone just keeps

610
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Speaker 2: waiting on of. You know, is Sam Donald going to

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Speaker 2: have this letdown that we saw at the end of

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Speaker 2: last year with the Vikings, and he's coming off a

613
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Speaker 2: great game against the Rams. But I look at a

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Speaker 2: guy in Clint Kubiak who has been obviously he's going

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Speaker 2: to get a head coaching job here. He has been

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Speaker 2: instrumental in kind of turning this around. And yes they

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Speaker 2: have a great defense, SODA's the New England Patriots. But

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Speaker 2: I look at the offensive coordinators in this game, because

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Speaker 2: you got a guy in Sam Donald who you don't want,

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Speaker 2: you know, a negative early to kind of snowball. And

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Speaker 2: if you're New England, you got a guy in Drake

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Speaker 2: May who's still so young. I want to see which

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Speaker 2: offensive coordinator against good defenses can do the most to

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Speaker 2: get their quarterback in rhythm early right, like not the

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Speaker 2: first pass being a third and long, seeing an early completion,

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Speaker 2: getting into that rhythm that a quarterback needs to be

627
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Speaker 2: in finding the easy checkdown or the easy throw early

628
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Speaker 2: in the game that's going to move the chains and

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Speaker 2: kind of as a quarterback, allow you to take that

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Speaker 2: first deep breath and say, okay, now now I feel

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Speaker 2: like I'm in this game. I think that's fascinating to

632
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Speaker 2: me because again, the quarterback position always is where it

633
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: starts and stops with me. And I have questions about

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00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: both these quarterbacks. So whose job is it or the

635
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator? How do you go about getting your guy

636
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Speaker 2: involved early? If you look from the outside end, which

637
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 2: team has more success in the ground game?

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Speaker 3: That also takes a.

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Speaker 2: Little bit of pressure off of your quarterback and the momentum,

640
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Speaker 2: the momentum of a Super Bowl because there's so much

641
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Speaker 2: added to the game and the stress in itself. Can

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Speaker 2: a team take advantage of an early start, Can the

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Speaker 2: team take advantage of an early turnover or a gift

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00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 2: that the other squad gives? And then head coaching wise,

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Speaker 2: how aggressive are these coaches early in the game in

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Speaker 2: short yarded situations, Because I think for the most part,

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Speaker 2: you see that aggressiveness. What happens on a fourth and

648
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Speaker 2: one early from let's say your own thirty nine yard line.

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Speaker 2: Are you going for it? Are you playing field position?

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Speaker 2: What type of mentality is the head coach setting with

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Speaker 2: the rest of his team. I think is all fascinating

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Speaker 2: and can lead to again a path for New England

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Speaker 2: to win. I don't think I never viewed this as

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Speaker 2: a bloodbath. I think four and a half is the

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Speaker 2: Regardless of any of it, I think a fascinating matchup

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Speaker 2: two for now, a couple of phone calls to wind

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Speaker 2: down the hour.

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Speaker 3: Paul is calling in. What's up, Paul?

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Speaker 5: Hey, guys.

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Speaker 6: Two things. The first thing is, I really believe it's

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Speaker 6: going to come down to the best kicker. I really

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Speaker 6: believe the four and a half is the best number

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Speaker 6: I've seen for a Super Bowl in a while. I

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Speaker 6: really believe it's going to come down to a field

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Speaker 6: goal and who's who can not buckle under the pressure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's where we're overall. You think wise

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Speaker 3: it's close, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 6: Think it's sixteen thirteen. Max, Okay, I think it's going

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Speaker 6: to be just like the Denver Denver New England game.

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Speaker 6: And if you think about it, New England's played in

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Speaker 6: two kind of crappy weather games and they've dealt with

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Speaker 6: it and they went through it and a big deal.

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Speaker 6: But the second thing, I'm a really proud dad right now.

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Speaker 6: My son, I, like I said, yesterday wrestled at two fifteen.

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Speaker 6: He wrestled at a quad meet yesterday. He had to

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Speaker 6: wrestle against Roger Bacon, Norwood and Walnut Hills. And mind you,

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Speaker 6: my son's a freshman and the only weighs one hundred

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Speaker 6: and eighty six pounds and he's wrestling two fifteen and

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Speaker 6: he ended up going too and one last fight.

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Speaker 3: Nice. Nice, that's awesome.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so uh yeah. So, like I said, if you

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Speaker 6: guys ever get a chance to get out and watch

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Speaker 6: some high school wrestling, you would not believe some of

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Speaker 6: the We have some of the best wrestling, I'm I'm

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Speaker 6: pretty sure in the country, just in this area between Kentucky,

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Speaker 6: Ohio and Indiana. So uh, if you're ever looking for

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Speaker 6: something do on to do on a Saturday afternoon and

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Speaker 6: you're looking for something that will probably charge you up. Yes, definitely,

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Speaker 6: go check out some wrestling in the area.

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Speaker 3: Love it, Paul, Thanks so much, man, We appreciate you.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask this side of it, Austin, just on

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Speaker 2: the sheer pressure alone, which of these two teams has

738
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Speaker 2: more pressure to win Sunday?

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Speaker 3: Neither team.

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Speaker 2: Again, neither team was obviously in the playoffs last year,

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Speaker 2: so there was no pressure starting the year. The pressure

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Speaker 2: you think of when you think about, you know, Josh

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Speaker 2: Allen and the Bills having their moment. Neither of these

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Speaker 2: two teams were even in the playoffs last year. We

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Speaker 2: mentioned that earlier in the week. So is there a

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Speaker 2: team in this game with more pressure or both of

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Speaker 2: these teams playing with house money?

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Speaker 4: I think it would be Seattle, but not by a lot.

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Speaker 4: I think they're just a little bit further into their

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Speaker 4: process than New England is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you always wanted that with a Super Bowl. Who

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Speaker 2: which team has the added pressure? But again, it's unique

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Speaker 2: in the sense that I really don't see that for

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Speaker 2: either one of these teams. I don't There were not

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Speaker 2: a lot of people when the season started that had

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Speaker 2: the Seahawks coming out of a loaded NFC and the

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Speaker 2: Patriots Shirley coming out of what everyone thought would be

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Speaker 2: a loaded AFC when the season started.

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Speaker 3: Mike, what's going on? How are you hey?

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Speaker 5: I'm getting pretty damn excited. I'll have to tell you

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Speaker 5: that I would guess, yeah, as excited as I can get.

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Speaker 5: I want to do first of all, before I forget,

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Speaker 5: I haven't bought you guys any caps or anything for

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Speaker 5: a while. It's been way over a year, so I

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Speaker 5: was mentioned into Austin. I'll get something for you guys,

766
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Speaker 5: and get something for MO and TV. So I want

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Speaker 5: you to think about that, because you got a couple

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Speaker 5: of days, stupid heir from the Super Bowl. I can't

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Speaker 5: spend you know, thousands of dollars everything, but I'd be

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Speaker 5: happy to get you guys some paraphernalia. Just think about

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Speaker 5: it a little bit, yeah, because it won't be hard.

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Speaker 5: I'll be right there. It's just a matter of of

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Speaker 5: and then I'm coming back to Cincinnati in about two

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Speaker 5: weeks because my about a week and a half, my

775
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Speaker 5: uncle passed away and there waiting for a while to

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Speaker 5: do his funeral, So everybody can get into town. I'll

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Speaker 5: be there, but yeah, think about it, Okay, Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Rett Suter went to the Halos. Huh, yep, you know

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Speaker 5: that he's gonna be playing at the Big A. You

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Speaker 5: know that's the fourth oldest ballpark in the major leagues.

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize he went there. I didn't. I didn't

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Speaker 3: see that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Austin said that he went to the Angels.

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Speaker 3: Okay, didn't that hold? Didn't that hold like Olympic events

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Speaker 3: a long time ago?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, when they had it in l a

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Speaker 5: long time ago. Yeah. So it's ten ways the oldest,

788
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Speaker 5: then regularly, then Dodgers Stadium, and then uh, and then

789
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Speaker 5: the Big A. I was I was shocked at the

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Speaker 5: Big A was the fourth oldest. But that's a fact

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Speaker 5: you can google up there.

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Speaker 3: Boy, I am.

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Speaker 2: I'm happy for suitor though all I mean, all time,

794
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: good guy, local guy, and uh did a lot of

795
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 2: great things, not only for the team, but does a

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00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 2: lot of great for the community as well.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and he'll play in a nice climate. Hopefully he'll

798
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 5: be happy to do well. Uh. Before I get to

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Speaker 5: the Super Bowl, Austin was saying that he thinks the

800
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Speaker 5: Bengals will be big spenders. I hope you're right, Austin,

801
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 5: but will they be wise spenders? Because if Shelton ranking

802
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 5: has any clue, it doesn't matter. He can get a

803
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Speaker 5: bunch of free agents, but if they don't cut the mustard.

804
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that's I mean, it's it's just

805
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 2: as important as the spending of making sure you identify

806
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 2: the talent correctly, and if you if you start to

807
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 2: dive into Seattle not making the playoffs last year, New

808
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: England not making the playoffs last year. I remember the

809
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Speaker 2: offseason New England. It was seeming like they were signing

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00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 2: a new guy every day, and they've all fit into

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Speaker 2: this puzzle correctly. So you have to be willing to

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00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 2: spend it, and then you've got to identify how it

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00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 2: matches with your scheme and roster correctly.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and now get into the super Bowl. The guy

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Speaker 5: that just called that, well, New England won two games

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Speaker 5: in bad weather. What the hell's that got to do

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Speaker 5: with the super Bowl. It's trying to be sixty five

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Speaker 5: degrees and cloudy. Yeah, that's right, The hell's that got

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Speaker 5: to do with anything?

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Speaker 3: I don't battle tested, they're battle tested.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, Well I don't know what that was about.

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Speaker 5: But do you realize that, Quint Kuby, You probably do

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Speaker 5: Quint Kulback is the son of the great Gary Kubiak,

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Speaker 5: and Gary was what was he telling a backup quarterback

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Speaker 5: for a long time.

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Speaker 3: I believe, so, I'm not sure where he was.

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Speaker 5: At then he was a coordinator. I guess off and

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Speaker 5: on over the years. But looks like his son learned

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Speaker 5: well from ye dad. That's the damnswer. I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 5: When it comes to the game, I definitely I'm all

831
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Speaker 5: over Seattle on this one. I think you're gonna I

832
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 5: think Drake May is gonna get a little less than Austin.

833
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Speaker 5: And he said that with with getting some crazy defenses cinnati,

834
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Speaker 5: because really May's won. The only thing he's done in

835
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Speaker 5: these games is with his feet. He hadn't done a

836
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Speaker 5: damn thing with his arm, and he hadn't done a

837
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Speaker 5: damn thing and recognizing defenses particularly well. So it's only

838
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Speaker 5: his feet that have done anything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think I think Seattle's ability to get

840
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Speaker 2: to them with four could create some problems.

841
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Speaker 5: So you think, I mean you think he's got a

842
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Speaker 5: chance to have a big date throwing tony.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he does. I do agree with Paul

844
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Speaker 2: who when when he called it, I think it's a

845
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 2: low scoring game. I just I think Seattle is able

846
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Speaker 2: to do a little bit more in the passing game.

847
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Speaker 2: And obviously, a guy like Jackson Smith and jig but

848
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Speaker 2: Will be the best skilled player on the field. And

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Speaker 2: I think that bodes well for the Seahawks.

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Speaker 5: But I'll tell you what, now, with Brabel's ability to

851
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Speaker 5: put to be a good defensive caller, obviously, I think

852
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Speaker 5: they might hold Jackson Smith. I took it at ninety

853
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Speaker 5: four and a half under because you know they're gonna double.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna have to.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they're gonna have to. So some of the other guys,

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Speaker 5: now MO took MO took a prop with js N

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Speaker 5: eighty over. I believe eighty and over. But I don't know.

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Speaker 5: You think, first of all, if he's that good, can

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Speaker 5: you double will Doubling him and bracketing him make a difference.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But but Austin, I think you pointed out that the

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Speaker 2: last game Seattle played in they did such a good

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Speaker 2: job of moving Jackson Smith and Jigobo around. He played

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Speaker 2: out of the backfield a ton.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 2: It just they do a good job of highlighting him

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Speaker 2: and moving him around, which makes it a lot harder

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Speaker 2: to just line up and double them wherever he's at.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's going to be a part of our conversation

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Speaker 4: with the read and react some of the advanced numbers

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Speaker 4: of the way that they've moved him around and why

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Speaker 4: that makes it difficult on defenses.

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Speaker 3: Is why he's been so successful?

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Speaker 5: Is that? And that's the same thing that they does

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Speaker 5: with Poka.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, yep, all over the field.

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Speaker 5: All over the field. And that's the same thing that

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Speaker 5: Jamar can do. Correct.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they need to do a little bit

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Speaker 2: more of it, but you're starting to see more and

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Speaker 2: more of that from Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 5: Oh, guys, think about it and I'll call you more

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Speaker 5: before I leave.

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Speaker 2: Thanks a lot, Thanks Mike Kevi A good one. Uh

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