1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm cast his radio. 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 2: I'm just blown away by that hour. I got to 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: tell you, normally I want callers. Very rarely do I 4 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 2: feel that the individual story of an individual of a 5 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: person is so amazing. His Nick Bergs story was flat 6 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: out amazing. I would love to hear from as many 7 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 2: of you as possible, just to have heard what this 8 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 2: man went through and how he not only survived but prospered. Uh. 9 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 2: I don't know how else to describe it, other than 10 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: than just telling you that blown away, just absolutely blown away. 11 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: So let's let's go to phone calls. If you listen 12 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: to that hour, and and and and just what else? 13 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: What else is there to say? But I want to 14 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 2: hear from you, because I hope people were listening. It's 15 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: as simple as that. I'm looking at the headline in 16 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 2: the Boston Globe this morning, which appalls me. I don't 17 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: know if you have that reaction to it, headline Trump 18 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: backs off, Okay, cease fire. I mean, can you give 19 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: the guy a little bit of credit? I mean, you know, 20 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: basically backs off. That's a pejorative terms. It's like the 21 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: guy at the bar who wants to fight and then 22 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: it doesn't have the guts to throw the first punch 23 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:43,639 Speaker 2: or even to man up. Trump backs off, Okay, cease fire. 24 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: If he didn't back off, it would have been war 25 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: criminal strikes Boston Globe. Wake up, absolutely, wake up. You're 26 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: taking a great newspaper and you're running it into the ground. 27 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: You got the best sports page in the country, the 28 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: number six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty. If 29 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: you listen to that interview, I'd like to get your 30 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 2: reaction to it. Do you want more? I think it's 31 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 2: one of the best interviews I've ever done, and I've 32 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: done a lot of interviews on this program, and it's 33 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: got nothing to do with me. It has everything to 34 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: do with the person who I interviewed, Nick Burg Just 35 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: amazing story, Shadows of Tehran. I'm not going to repeat 36 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 2: the story, but I hope you've heard it. I do 37 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: have a couple of lines at six one, seven, nine, three, one, 38 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: ten thirty. Let me go first to Bill Bill Winaker, Welcome, 39 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: How are you, sir? 40 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 3: I'm fine, but I'll tell you that's one of the most. 41 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 4: Extraordinary interviews and stories that I've ever heard. And when 42 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 4: you've finished up, my total body broke out into goosebumps. 43 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: Well that I so appreciate that. I hope Nick is 44 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: listening tonight to think that you're you're born in Iran 45 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: and your father just leaves. Obviously he explained why you 46 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: left with the mom and a younger sister, and all 47 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 2: of a sudden, in nineteen seventy nine, when you're about 48 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 2: twelve years old, arrived the Ayatola arrives with his henchmen, 49 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:26,119 Speaker 2: and now you're living in a totally different country. Ah. 50 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:32,119 Speaker 2: And you you're nineteen, and you're you have a reputation 51 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: where they're going to execute you. You have no choice 52 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: but to leave. 53 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 3: Just this has. 54 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 5: To be a movie. 55 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 3: I'm telling the book has to be made into a movie. 56 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: And I sorry for all the people who have heard this, 57 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: and for the for the belly acres and the complainers 58 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: you know, who want to leave the country, and the 59 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: Rosie O'Donnell's of the world or whatever who are looking 60 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: to leave in the Oprah. Please leave, Do us all 61 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: a favor and leave. Okay, when you think about this, 62 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: guy comes here, can't speak English, joins the mill, working 63 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: at Wendy's, joins the military, and you know, spends eleven 64 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 2: years and and is deployed ends up getting shot in Bosnia. 65 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 4: Again, our lives have been a piece of cake compared 66 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 4: to what we've preferred. Absolutely, I mean, it's one of 67 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 4: the most extraordinary stories I've ever heard. What Nick is 68 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 4: an amazing human being. 69 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 2: Just extraordinary. And we didn't even scratch the surface. We 70 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: didn't even scratch the surface. And when you ask him 71 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: what should happen in Iran, that's exactly what should happen. 72 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 2: If we can somehow change that form of government, free 73 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: the Iranian people, give them the opportunity to breathe the 74 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: air of freedom and become again a kind of tree 75 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: that's a member of the world, of the nations of 76 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 2: the world, I should say, and establish a relatively normal 77 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: relationship with the State of Israel the other countries that 78 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: now are going to deal with Israel. It's possible that 79 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: in our lifetime we could have the equivalent of peace 80 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 2: in the Middle East. I mean, this is the moment 81 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 2: in time. This is not the moment in time to 82 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 2: step off the gas, that is for sure in my opinion, 83 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: and so far they've done it really well. That they 84 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 2: have inflicted damage. Iran is hurt. Iran's going to take 85 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: years to recover. But I hope that there are some 86 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 2: leaders in Iran who understand that country has been misled 87 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: for half a century, nearly half a century. 88 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 6: Absolutely, Nick gave me great hope though with his perspective 89 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:56,119 Speaker 6: on what might happen. I mean, if he's right, things 90 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 6: could turn out okay. But it's a very complicated situation 91 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 6: over there. You know, they don't have any the nice people, 92 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 6: the population don't. 93 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 3: Have any weapons. They you know, it's just really a 94 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 3: hard situation here. 95 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 2: But I agree, and you look, the Russian people don't 96 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 2: have weapons. You know, Chinese people don't have weapons. The 97 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: Cuban people don't have weapons. I love hearing that Raul 98 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: Castro was met with two members of the United States Congress. 99 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 2: My opinion, those people should be tried for treason at 100 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 2: this point, treason against the Cuban people. I mean, it's 101 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 2: absolutely it's extraordinary. It is extraordinary what is going on 102 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 2: and what potentially can go on. Bill. I love your calls. 103 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 2: Thank you for doing exactly what I hoped some of 104 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 2: my callers would do. I know that Nick is listening 105 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 2: and tonight I gave them the way to listen on 106 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 2: the internet, and I just on him to understand the 107 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 2: impact that he has made here in amongst its. 108 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 3: Well, we're all going to hear that interview again on 109 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 3: Sunday night. 110 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: Well, I think at this point that is likely to 111 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 2: be the one. Although the interview with Paul English on 112 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 2: Tuesday night, who has made such a positive impact in Boston. 113 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 2: I don't know if you listened to the interview with 114 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: Paul English, so we got it. 115 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: They both need to re replay, but they will. 116 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 2: It was Paul English was Monday night at nine o'clock, 117 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: just extraordinary. Bill, Thank you so much, my friend. We'll 118 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: talk soon and say hey, okay, thanks yeah, sure will 119 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: thanks Bill. Thanks six one four ten thirty six one seven, 120 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: nine three one ten thirty. If you listened last hour, 121 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: do you want to hear more interviews? I can't talk 122 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: that interview, I really can't. I hope you'll join me. 123 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 2: I think that we need to hear some voices. If 124 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: you think there were questions that I should have asked, 125 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 2: feel free to tell me. Six one seven, two, five 126 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven nine three ten thirty 127 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 2: Back on Nightside. Right after this quick. 128 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: Break night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news. 129 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 2: Radio Last Hour, I interviewed Nick Berg. His book is 130 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: called Shadows of Tehran. It is a novel, but it's 131 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: his life story of having been born in Iran in 132 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 2: nineteen sixty seven, having escaped in nineteen eighty seven after 133 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 2: the Iotola and his henchman took control, getting back home 134 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: to this country. He was an American citizen because of 135 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 2: his dad, who had been a CIA officer in Tehran 136 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 2: in the nineteen seventies. The early seventies, he left, leaving 137 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: his wife and Nick and his younger sister, and Nick 138 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 2: came here without a word of English. He learned English, 139 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 2: joined the US Army, rose to the rank of E seven, 140 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: which is quite a rank as an as an NCO. 141 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 2: Back to the phones we go. I'd love to hear 142 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 2: from as many of you as possible. Brenda in Winchester, Brenda, 143 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 2: thank you so much for calling in tonight. I really 144 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: do appreciate it. 145 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 7: I am an r. This has been the best interview 146 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 7: you have ever had you. I can't tell you enough 147 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 7: that young man, what he's done, what he's been through, 148 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 7: and he has taught us so much about what's going on. 149 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 7: It's it's just amazing to me. I am I am 150 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 7: at aunt, I really am. I haven't heard an interview 151 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 7: like that in your program for a long time. 152 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 2: Well, Brenda, I'll take that away. 153 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 7: I really no. 154 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 2: I mean I listen to. 155 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 4: You every night. 156 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 7: I never every single night, and I get bored with 157 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 7: the politics type thing. But this, really it helps us 158 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 7: to know what's really going on over there. It's somebody 159 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 7: who knows about it. It's just amazing. Ben really have 160 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 7: him on again. I enjoyed him thoroughly. 161 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,599 Speaker 2: Well, Brenda, I thank you very much. You're one of 162 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: my most loyal listeners. 163 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 7: And if you the story, I want to get that book. 164 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 7: I have to as well. I don't know whether you remember, 165 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 7: but I am losing my eyesight, so mostly I would 166 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 7: be listening to books, you know, on the tape, but 167 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 7: I want to get his book, and I just want 168 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 7: to hear him again. He is unbelievable. 169 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, but I would be surprised. And 170 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 2: I again, if you can have someone in your family 171 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 2: just look at look it up here. I'm just trying 172 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 2: to see. Hold wait a second, Holy, I might be 173 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 2: able to tell you that it looks a lot of 174 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 2: these books are on tape. Okay, I'm not adept at. 175 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 7: Oh, I can have my OT check it up, Bunny anyway, 176 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 7: But I am. 177 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: Again shadows of Tron, Shadow. 178 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 7: Shadows of Tron. Yeah, I'm going to get that book 179 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 7: and I can't wait. I am so excited for him 180 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 7: to be on again. 181 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 2: Well we will get him on again. 182 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 7: Yes, that's an incredible So he's so down to earth, 183 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 7: he's so smart, and he's done such a sad at 184 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 7: this job with his life, and now. 185 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 2: He's teaching artificial intelligence. Unbelievable. I just think if I 186 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: ever had to leave America and transfer go to a 187 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 2: foreign country, what if I had had the courage to 188 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 2: do what he did? The answer is no. 189 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 7: You see, that's what a lot of people here don't understand. 190 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 7: They don't go through some of that that things, that 191 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 7: that that that man's been through. He thought for our country. 192 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 2: Yes, for eleven years and in indefficult circumstances and was wounded, Brenda. 193 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 2: I got to get to some other calls. But if 194 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 2: you need to get get me, stay in the line. Rob, 195 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 2: give you my direct line. I'll always call you back, 196 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 2: you know that. Uh, I'll try to find if there's 197 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,599 Speaker 2: an audiobook, You'll stay there and Rob will give you 198 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: my direct number. I know you should have, but anytime. Okay, 199 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 2: let's keep rolling here, going to go to I in 200 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 2: San Antonio, Texas, and thank you for calling in your 201 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: reaction to the interview with Nick Berg. 202 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 8: Last loved it, loved it, absolutely loved it. 203 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 7: Amazing. 204 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 8: And he has quite a bird's eye view, doesn't he. 205 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 2: He? 206 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I just hope and pray that people 207 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 8: give our president a modicum of respect and just to 208 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 8: try and understand that he's trying to do the right thing. 209 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: Well, I don't think he's even from certain media outlets. 210 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: He's never going to get that. Again. I've criticized Donald Trump. 211 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: I think that, frankly, sometimes his language is over the top. 212 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: I think he can be oftentimes his own worst enemy. 213 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 2: I understand that that he is someone who at his 214 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 2: core is a New York real estate developer. I get that, 215 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 2: and I think that some of his language in the 216 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 2: last few days has been to talk about, you know, 217 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: back to the Stone Ages. I mean that there's a 218 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: lot of that country that's back to the Stone Ages 219 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 2: already in terms of what they don't have. I think 220 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 2: that it is not a good idea to threaten power plants, 221 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 2: I mean, bridges, are one thing, now just can. 222 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 8: Be Can I agree with all that as well? I 223 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 8: really do, And maybe respect was the wrong term. I 224 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 8: wanted to say some benefit of doubt. 225 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you can understand him and what he's 226 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 2: attempting to accomplish. And the problem is that a lot 227 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: of the media put a stake in the ground a 228 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:51,239 Speaker 2: long time ago that that Donald Trump was an ignorant 229 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: and I'm going to be sound repetitive here and redundant, ignorant, ignoramus. 230 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 2: And once you you basically the clear war on you know, 231 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 2: editorial war on a politician, it's tough to say. I 232 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 2: mean this, I don't particularly like his personality, okay, and 233 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 2: I think that his language over the weekend about getting 234 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: rid of the uh, the the Persians civilization and culture 235 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 2: was absolutely counter uh counterintuitive. Yeah, But at the same time, 236 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 2: it's like, you can you can dislike ah an artist. 237 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 2: You can just and and say, well, you know, I 238 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 2: don't like that artist, but that particular painting was extraordinary, 239 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 2: or that that music was extraordinary, or or even there's 240 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: a but they can't give him credit for anything, And 241 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: when they talk about it is there is a trumped 242 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 2: arrangement syndrome. And you know what, what what will they 243 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: possibly say if somehow, some way he's able to uh 244 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 2: change the course of history in the Middle East? What 245 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: will they say in retrospect? I mean what why you 246 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 2: know again that headline in the Globe Trump backs off, okay, 247 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 2: cease fire. If he had not backed off and had 248 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 2: let you know, the rockets red glare last night over 249 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 2: over Iran, he would have been accused of war crimes. 250 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's so frustrating. It's all I wanted to. 251 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 8: Right, But that's why it doesn't make sense to mouth 252 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 8: off as he does at times. 253 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, own worst enteme, you know, own worst eneme, as 254 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: simple as that. And I love your calls, you know that. 255 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: Thank you so much continuing to listen to us done 256 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: in San Antonio, absolutely, thanks you. Good night six one seven, two, five, 257 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten 258 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 2: thirty were I mean asking for your reaction to our 259 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 2: interview last hour with Nick Berg his book Shadows of Tehran. 260 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 2: If you didn't hear the hour, you can't comment on it. 261 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 2: But if you did listen to it, and if you 262 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 2: didn't just see in an absolute admiration of this guy's 263 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 2: courage not only to serve in the US military, but 264 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 2: to come here at the age of nineteen without knowing 265 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: a word of English, even though your dad sired you 266 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 2: in Iran in nineteen sixty seven while he was a 267 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 2: CIA officer. Let me go to Nick. Different Nick in Winchester, 268 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 2: but another guy named Nick who has a lot of guts. 269 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 2: Nick and Winchester. How you doing, my friend? Did you 270 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: were you working this weekend? This week? 271 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 9: Yeah? 272 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 5: I worked every day. 273 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 2: You unbelievable. 274 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, but. 275 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 9: No, I want to say hello and thank thanks to 276 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 9: all the night siders with their prayers. But they'll tell 277 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 9: you that that interview it really got me going. Boy, 278 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 9: he is one smart little kid. I'll say you, well, the. 279 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 2: Thing is to have the courage. I mean, can you 280 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 2: imagine you're nineteen years old. You've you have reacted badly 281 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: to the to the new regime in town, the Shah 282 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: and his hench the the eye Toll and his henchman. 283 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 2: You got an execution order on your head. Your your friends, 284 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 2: your best friend's dad tells you, kid, you better get 285 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 2: out of town. We get out of He's walking or 286 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 2: somehow getting into Turkey. 287 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 5: Look at it's unbelievable. The courage and the and the 288 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 5: movement that he he displayed on that interview is unbelievable. 289 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Well, I just hope that people understand those 290 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 2: of us. You know, Nick, your you get your dealer 291 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 2: with them with a medical battle that you're going to win. Okay, 292 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 2: at some point, I want to do something more for you, 293 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 2: and I want to talk to you privately. I've got 294 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 2: a couple of ideas. I would only do that with 295 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 2: your acquiescence. Okay, But I were you with the ballpark today, 296 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 2: bunny chancer? Now they did one today. 297 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was there. I've been there. We all since Friday. 298 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 2: Six games. Okay, Well that's good. 299 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 9: Yeah good. It was a little scary, little cold, but uh, 300 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 9: it's going to be interesting. The troops are on full 301 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 9: fourth moon. 302 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 2: Well the boo birds were out on Monday, that's for sure, 303 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 2: understandably so but U but hey, you know they've they've 304 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 2: they've steady the ship a little bit. Four and eight 305 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 2: is much better than where they were a couple of 306 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 2: nights ago. And uh it's a long season as Oh yeah, 307 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 2: there's a there's a great baseball book from approximately nineteen 308 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 2: sixty written by a former relief pitcher named Jim Brosman 309 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 2: called The Long Season. And he was a very smart 310 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 2: uh well ritten, he wrote very well, and he wrote 311 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 2: this basically it was a diary of his year and 312 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 2: the years of the Bigs, well that one particular year 313 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 2: in the Bigs. And it was a great book for 314 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 2: any kid who's coming of age and loves baseball. I 315 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 2: don't know if you can still find it, but he 316 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 2: just it gave you some insight. It was, uh, it 317 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 2: was sort of like the Jim Boughten book you call 318 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 2: ball four before Jim Bouten about nine years before a bouton. 319 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 2: If you get my drift. 320 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah, no, I understand. 321 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 2: Nick, Nick hanging near pal I again, I'm going to 322 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 2: try to get you when the Red Sox aren't home 323 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,479 Speaker 2: and talk to you during the day, uh quietly, and 324 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: I just want to run a couple of ideas by you, 325 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 2: see what. 326 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 5: Okay? Sounds great, buddy? All right, Nick talks soon always 327 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 5: great day. Your voice fell right. 328 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 2: Back at you. Real great to hear yours. Thanks Nick, appreciate, 329 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 2: thank you, good night. All right. I got a bunch 330 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 2: of open lines here, which is disappointing, but that's okay. Six, one, seven, 331 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 2: thirty six, one seven, nine thirty. If you listened last 332 00:20:55,600 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 2: hour and you weren't inspired by Nick burg Up, who 333 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,719 Speaker 2: wrote a novel about his life in Iran, escaping Iran, 334 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 2: joining the coming to the United States, joining the US military, 335 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 2: and now his his success, it's just it just shows 336 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 2: the human spirit. If you listened last hour and you 337 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 2: weren't moved by that hour, check your pulse because you 338 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 2: might be dead. Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten, 339 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 2: thirty six, one seven, nine thirty. Were coming right back. 340 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: On Nightside, Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio. 341 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 2: Back to the calls we go. Let me go to 342 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 2: John in Boston. John, you were next on Nightside. 343 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 9: Dan. 344 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 10: I didn't hear enough of that interview, but I am 345 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 10: gonna definitely check out the podcast. I heard enough that 346 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 10: the guy is just amazing, and it shows the American 347 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 10: people how brutal that that regime is, how bad they've 348 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 10: been for the past forty seven years. There's any misunderstanding 349 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 10: as whether they should have a nuke and art or 350 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 10: any kind of uranium and still be in charge of 351 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 10: the straits or muse or moves or moves. Rather, it's 352 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 10: all right there. I mean, they are just vicious and brural. 353 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 10: And to think that they wouldn't use the nuke on us, oh. 354 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 5: Or even a or no question, no question. 355 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 2: And the people who have been screaming for years, oftentimes 356 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 2: the people who are out of power now we need 357 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 2: a nuclear proliferation treatise so that we all should give 358 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 2: our nukes away or whatever. Yo. Hell no, we have 359 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: our nukes. We've never used the nukes proactively. We used 360 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 2: them to end a war that would have cost a 361 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 2: million the lives of a million US soldiers invading Japan 362 00:22:55,200 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: in nineteen forty five. Little hypocrisy, they they the the 363 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 2: other side on this issue, reeks of hypocrisy. They thought, well, 364 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 2: where should use the twenty fifth Amendment? Let me you know, 365 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 2: you know as well as I do. There was a 366 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 2: president who was non COMPASSMENTUS for the last two years 367 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 2: of his administration. His name was Joe Biden. They were 368 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 2: walking him around by the hand on stage. He you know, 369 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 2: I mean, it was a patently obvious and they nominated 370 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 2: him for president and then they they they they didn't 371 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 2: nominate him, but they allowed him to. Basically they no 372 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 2: one challenged him until Donald Trump and Joe Biden had 373 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 2: their debate in late June. The Democrats are at fault 374 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 2: for those who are not happy with Donald Trump as president. 375 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 2: They paid the way for Donald. 376 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 11: Trump, absolutely and they he out a force out of 377 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,479 Speaker 11: the campaign by by by the Democratic Party basically. 378 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 10: But then the thing is that just they're willing to 379 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 10: risk our safety. I mean this, this coaches have a 380 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 10: whole different mentality and they're just playing games. They're playing 381 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 10: games with these coaches that want to destroy our country, 382 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 10: kill it, naives stupid politicians who have no clue whatsoever 383 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 10: how dangerous these lunatics are that would take just one nuke, 384 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 10: if they set up one nuke in the MP in 385 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 10: the sky, would cook all the electronics in the country, 386 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 10: and that is self could cause catastrophic damage and it'll 387 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 10: Donald Trump. 388 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 5: This is this is Donald Trump. 389 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 10: I'm sorry, Danielle. You know the expression d end if 390 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 10: you do and damed if you don't. They're gonna it 391 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 10: should be dawn if you do and don if you do, 392 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 10: because no matter what Donald Trump does, they're gonna condemn it. 393 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 10: And it's you know, he doesn't have to bomb the plants. 394 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 10: They can bomb the power lines of the underground fiber 395 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 10: optic cables twenty thirty miles up. Well, the plants are 396 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 10: useless then, and then they can rebuild the towers later. 397 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 10: So there are ways around this. 398 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 2: Well, there's a book. We've had the author of the 399 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 2: book on seventy seven days in September. It's a novel 400 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 2: by Ray Gorum. Maybe I should have him back, but 401 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 2: he talks about a post apocalyptic world after an electro 402 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 2: magnetic pulse, an emt EMP attack literally disrupts modern society. 403 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 2: And that's exactly what you're talking about, John, And if 404 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 2: you don't have a chance to get that book, it's 405 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 2: seventy seven days in September. It's it's a great book. 406 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 2: It was recommended to me by a very astute and 407 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 2: respected Bostonian many years ago. I'll tell you who it was. 408 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 5: Was. 409 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 2: Well, I prefer to keep my conversations with people private, 410 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 2: unless I could very well known Bostonian said you got 411 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 2: to read this book because this is what we're looking 412 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 2: at potentially. 413 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 10: I'm actually read positive Dan, and it is excellent, and 414 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 10: it's it's that is a real danger. That is I 415 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 10: mean even Judge nine was talking about it a couple 416 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 10: of years ago, and they've had congressional beings with the 417 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 10: about the ip attack. People don't realize that just in 418 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 10: a matter of a few months that people will be 419 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 10: stobbing to death in this country if that happened. I mean, 420 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 10: it's a great danger, great danger they have. 421 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: You're cold in the dark, and you have and you 422 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 2: your your automobiles don't run. I mean, it's it's a 423 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 2: scary book. But but look, we have to uh as 424 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 2: a nation, and it's we got to put the politics aside, Okay, 425 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 2: I mean if uh if if Joe Biden, I supported 426 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 2: Joe Biden when he was president because he's the only 427 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 2: president we have. I don't understand why the other side 428 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: cannot say what Donald Trump is trying to do with 429 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 2: Benjamin net Yahoo is in the interest of civilization. That's 430 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 2: the bottom line. It's in the interest of civilization. They 431 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 2: they would rather see Donald Trump fall flat in his 432 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 2: face and the government of Iran continue to oppress the 433 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 2: people of Iran and threaten the people of the Middle 434 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 2: East and build nuclear weapons, then to see Donald Trump succeed. 435 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 2: And that's a pretty sick analysis. 436 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 10: Dan. Right there at the straight of Hormos, they had 437 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 10: a nuclear weapons. That's the key to the whole Western 438 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 10: civilization right there. They got the key. They can control Europe, 439 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 10: they can control Unize with the flow of oil. It's 440 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 10: right there, all right. 441 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 2: John, John, I appreciate it. I want you to listen 442 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 2: to the entire of that interview Nightside on demand dot com. 443 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 2: It's the ten o'clock interview and it'll be Rob will 444 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 2: have it posted probably by two three this morning, certainly 445 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 2: by time you get up in the morning. 446 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 10: Thank you, John, I'm definitely gonna thank you. 447 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 9: Thank you. 448 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 2: All right. Let me get Linda in North Weymouth in 449 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 2: I've hit the wrong button here. Now what do I 450 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 2: gonna do? I got to go back here and hit 451 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 2: the right button. Linda, welcome you. You were next to Dan. 452 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 12: Are you there? 453 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 2: Yes? 454 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 10: I am. 455 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 2: Can you hear me, Linda? 456 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 12: Go ahead, yes, yes I can. 457 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 5: I can. 458 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 12: Well that I'm speechless. I mean, I that that that 459 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 12: man Nick was just he was like a like a miracle, 460 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 12: you know, like the hands of God. I'm bringing him 461 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 12: out like that, I mean, it was, it was it 462 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 12: was just so hot, warming and uh and uh. And 463 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 12: to see the strength and the courage then and the 464 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 12: determination that he had and the struggles to succeed like 465 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 12: he did to succeed and. 466 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 2: Also just a persevere I mean, you're nineteen years old, 467 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 2: you're an American living in Tehran. You're also Iranian, You're 468 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 2: you have a dual citizenship, and now you have to 469 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 2: leave the country because there's a there's a warrant out 470 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 2: for you, or an execution warrant, however he described it. 471 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 2: And you to get out of the country, you got 472 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 2: to get to a foreign country that is that's different, Turkey. 473 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 2: You got to go to the US embassy and and 474 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 2: persuade them that you're a US citizen. 475 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 12: And they're going to look at you. 476 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 2: Like who the hell are you and what who brought 477 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 2: you here? And then when you come here, you you 478 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 2: basically joined the US Army. Uh, so you're not flipping 479 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 2: burgers at Wendy's right, and you you you rise to 480 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 2: the level of East seven. You are deployed to Bosnia. 481 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 2: You're deployed to to Saudi Arabia for desert storm, desert shield, 482 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 2: to see Lyonne. He talked about being in other other 483 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,959 Speaker 2: countries and places that he couldn't even Mention gives eleven 484 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 2: years of his life, uh wounded wounded in Bosnia. 485 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 12: Yeah, I don't and then to leave his mom and 486 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 12: his and his sister. 487 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I. 488 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 12: Didn't just hear. I don't know because I had kind 489 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 12: of like at the very end, kind of like dose 490 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 12: don if I ever had time with with with that. 491 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 12: But did he ever did he ever say that he 492 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 12: was married or anything? 493 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 5: Uh? 494 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't. I didn't ask him that, to be 495 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 2: honest with you. And if we have him back on 496 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 2: we can get more and more to that. No, the 497 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 2: story was about his his escape from Iran. You know again, 498 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 2: his dad was an American CIA officer, inter married a 499 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 2: Iranian woman, and then in nineteen seventy five he just disappeared. 500 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 5: Family can signed him unbelievable. 501 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 2: And then he finally tracked his his you know, biological 502 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 2: father down to Las Vegas, which I'm sure was not easy. 503 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 2: And I guess he understood that the dad had to 504 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 2: leave and that he was more concern learned about the 505 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 2: safety of his family. Why he didn't just bring him 506 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 2: with him and bring him back to the States, godly knows, 507 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 2: you know, you know, no one knows what goes on 508 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 2: in a situation like that unless you're in the midst 509 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 2: of that situation. Maybe he did what he thought was 510 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 2: best for his family. 511 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 12: I don't know, thank you so much for having him 512 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 12: on And how did you come to find him? 513 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 2: Well, we get a lot of we get a lot 514 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 2: of UH book companies offering us different issues and different 515 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 2: different authors and and this is one that caught my 516 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 2: eye and I situations like that. I talked to my 517 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 2: reader and I said, what, you know, what are we 518 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 2: going to do? And I just thought that tonight, having 519 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 2: talked earlier with the professor from Boston College. 520 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 9: But it was easy. 521 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 2: You know, these are people who give us a perspective, 522 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 2: UH to what's going on in this country that we're 523 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 2: now word war with where to cease fire, which which 524 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 2: i'd love to see, UH if we if we can 525 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 2: accomplish diplomatically what the administration has set out. And I 526 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 2: guess they will meet on Saturday, Saturday afternoon in Islam Pakistan, 527 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 2: and I think it's going to be a face to 528 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 2: face between uh the Speaker of the House of of 529 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 2: their parliament to whatever you want to call it, and 530 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 2: Vice President Vance along with other negotiators including Jared Kushner. 531 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 12: Yeah, it's everything just tied tied in, and it was 532 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 12: it was just it's it's it's a wonderful show and 533 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 12: and thank you very much. 534 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 2: Well again. What made it the wonderful hour that it 535 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 2: was was Nick Berg. The book is Shallows of Tehran. 536 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. 537 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 12: I am I am going to look for that book I. 538 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 2: Amazon dot com Shadows of Tehran by Nick Berg, b 539 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 2: e Erg. Thanks, thanks so much, Thanks. 540 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 12: Linda, Thank you, Dan, Yeah. 541 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 2: Thank you, talk to you soon. Good. All right. I 542 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 2: got wide open lines here, which really disappoints me. If 543 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 2: you listened last hour, uh, I want to hear from you. 544 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 2: Six one seven, two, five four, ten thirty or six 545 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 2: one seven, nine three one ten thirty. We took no 546 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 2: phone calls last hour. I had no interest in taking 547 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 2: phone calls last hour because I wanted I wanted to 548 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 2: give this author the time. This is a novel, but 549 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 2: it's a novel about his life. It's an extort. If 550 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 2: you missed the hour, you need to go to Nightside 551 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 2: undemand dot com. Rob will post the ten o'clock. He'll 552 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 2: post as he posts every hour. We got about I 553 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 2: don't know ten minutes left six one seven, two five 554 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 2: four ten thirty, six one seven nine three one ten thirty. 555 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 2: Feel free to join the conversation here. I want to 556 00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 2: know your reaction to me. It was the single most 557 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 2: inspirational hour of radio that I have done in nineteen years, 558 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 2: and I will put it up against and I've done 559 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 2: some great hours of radio. I'm I'm very happy to 560 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 2: say that. And I'm not I'm not someone who is braggadocius, 561 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 2: nor am I someone who is shy. But when I 562 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 2: hit an interview like Nick Berg and his story, I 563 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 2: want you to understand the significance. Please join the conversation 564 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 2: six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty six one seven, 565 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,439 Speaker 2: nine three, one, ten thirty. We'll be back on nights 566 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 2: Side after this. 567 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio. 568 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 2: We're finishing up tonight by talking about the guest last hour, 569 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 2: Nick Berg, his book Shadows of Tehran, just an an 570 00:34:53,360 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 2: extraordinary interview. Had nothing to do with me but the subject. 571 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 2: Nick Berg, a young man who fled around at the 572 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 2: age of nineteen and nineteen eighty seven and death execution 573 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 2: hanging over his head didn't give him much choice, got 574 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 2: to the United States somehow, some way, and was able 575 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 2: to join the military. Wounded in Bosnia, served roast of 576 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 2: the rank of e seven with anyone who's been in 577 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 2: the military and knows that's a very select NCO rank. 578 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 2: Let me go to Donna in Danvers. Donna, thank you 579 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,439 Speaker 2: very much for calling back. How are you. I thought 580 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 2: we lost you there, Go ahead, Donna. 581 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 13: Oh I was nervous. I hung up. 582 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm pretty easy to deal with. 583 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 13: Mostly well, it was first off, was a great I'm 584 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 13: a longtime listener, by the way, I called in just 585 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 13: once some time ago when you had oh, Jimmy Tingle on. 586 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 13: That was that long ago a while. Sure, I hope 587 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 13: we've been a long while, but I've been a long 588 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 13: time listener. Yeah, it's it's good to hear people other 589 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 13: people talk and uh and both of the professor, you've 590 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 13: had him on before, and he's he's good to The 591 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 13: phrase that comes to my mind is like, it's kind 592 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 13: of like having your boots on the ground, so to speak. 593 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 13: We've been talking a lot about that in the military since, 594 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 13: but not not in the civil sense. And I think 595 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 13: if you don't know a lot of the history in 596 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 13: that area or just the globe actually everywhere, it's kind 597 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 13: of the same thing. War is terrible, No one wants 598 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 13: it and it's a terrible thing that that people are 599 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 13: just being mowed down in the streets, that kind of stuff. 600 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 2: It's I mean, we're so lucky. We're so lucky to 601 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 2: have been born here. 602 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 13: Incredible. 603 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 2: It's so many people who who are born here and 604 00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,720 Speaker 2: they're they're just you know, uh, they have no desire 605 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 2: to contribute to the system. We're generous to people. This 606 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,240 Speaker 2: guy came here with nothing. 607 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 11: Uh. 608 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,439 Speaker 2: It made such an impact and I got. 609 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 13: It absolutely amazing. So it was, it was, it was. 610 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 13: It really inspired me to call. But then it's like 611 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 13: I was overwhelmed with everything that was going around in 612 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 13: my head. But like I said, a lot of it 613 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 13: is like you kind of forget the history. You finally 614 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 13: forget what's going on. I mean I listened to the 615 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 13: news and that sort of thing, so I know kind 616 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 13: of what's going on. But when you're at war and 617 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 13: and it affects so many of us and the people 618 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 13: over there, we can't appreciate it. 619 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:42,399 Speaker 2: We're not there. 620 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,800 Speaker 13: We don't we don't. We we're lucky, just like you said, so, 621 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 13: so I'm just like grateful. But it was it was inspiration. 622 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 13: He was an inspiration. 623 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 2: I'll tell you any if any American who feels there, 624 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,839 Speaker 2: they're they're in trouble. They they if he could get 625 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,760 Speaker 2: if he could get to where he got you unbelievable, Donna, 626 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 2: thank you so much for calling. Don't be a stranger. 627 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 2: You did great, come on back many times. 628 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 5: Okay, thank you, thanks do have a good night. 629 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 4: Thank you. 630 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 13: Thank you for your guests that you do well. 631 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 9: Thank you. 632 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,800 Speaker 13: Oh had I liked your questions. You really put the 633 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 13: questions out there and you got them answered. He was 634 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,399 Speaker 13: good at answering and you were Yeah, that was great. Great, 635 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 13: it was. 636 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 2: It was a great hour. And we'll have him on again. 637 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 5: We'll have them on back and forth. 638 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 13: Okay, I know you gotta go. I'm watching the clock. 639 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 2: Almost get one more, one more person. You're going to 640 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 2: get in here. 641 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 13: Especially I'll be listening. 642 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 2: Thanks you soon. Let me go to my friend Nurse 643 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,800 Speaker 2: Betty and Bedford. Nurse Betty, I haven't heard from me 644 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:41,399 Speaker 2: in a while. 645 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 14: Everything okay, No, it is okay, Dan, I've been very sick. 646 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. 647 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 14: I had open hot surgery from a dear friend of 648 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 14: yours who is no longer with us, Doctor Cloone. 649 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 2: Remember Larry Cone, the best. 650 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 14: Oh absolutely, Oh he saved my life. Dan Well, I 651 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 14: aneurysm and I've been laid up for a while. 652 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 2: Nurse Betty, I'm back and I just. 653 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 14: Want to say to you you should be very proud 654 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 14: of having that young man on. He was so informative, 655 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 14: he was awesome. Keep up the good work, Dan. 656 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,320 Speaker 2: Nurse Betty, thank you so much. I love you. 657 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 14: You know that, and I miss you. 658 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 2: Well. I got your number. Rob will give you my 659 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 2: direct line. Rob give Nurse Betty my direct line. But 660 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 2: we gotta we gotta wrap it up for now, Nurse Betty, 661 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 2: and you stay strong. Thanks Nurse Betty, talk to you soon. 662 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,919 Speaker 2: Betty's been a long time friend. We had a pretty 663 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,800 Speaker 2: good show tonight. I hope you tell your friends about it. 664 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 2: I will I will do Facebook Night Side with Dan 665 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 2: Ray in a few minutes. I want to thank Rob, 666 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 2: who had a very busy night. I want to thank Marita, 667 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 2: and I want to thank all the callers, and I 668 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 2: want to thank Nick Berg and Professor Ali Bonowazizi of 669 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 2: Boston College. All dogs, all cats, all pets, they all 670 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 2: go to heaven. That's why Pal Charlie Rays, who passed 671 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 2: sixteen years ago in February. That's why all your pets 672 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 2: are our past. They loved you, you love them. I 673 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,760 Speaker 2: do believe you'll see them beginning. Have a great Thursday everybody. 674 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,760 Speaker 2: Hopefully it's going to warm up. Thanks everyone,