Speaker 1: W another another three hours of live radio coming your way,
Speaker 1: I mean, Thursday night edition of the Midweek Crisis. I'm
Speaker 1: Dan Carroll, Joe Waddell running the Big Board in the
Speaker 1: seven hundred WIW command center. No guests the first hour,
Speaker 1: so if you want to jump on board five one, three, nine, seven,
Speaker 1: eight hundred, the big One. I've got Fox News on
Speaker 1: over to my left, and their police are in Salem,
Speaker 1: New Hampshire, and they have been looking in a in
Speaker 1: a storage unit, you know, they're They're at one of
Speaker 1: those storage places. And apparently Fox News is reporting that
Speaker 1: they've got a report that says the suspected shooter at
Speaker 1: Brown University has been found dead inside a storage unit
Speaker 1: there in Salem, New Hampshire. So there we are awaiting
Speaker 1: another news conference from Providence, Rhode Island, the police department there,
Speaker 1: and we'll find out what the latest developments on that is.
Speaker 1: What else do we got tonight? A couple of guests
Speaker 1: in the in the ten o'clock hour, My buddy Joe
Speaker 1: Hoft is going to be here. This is my last
Speaker 1: nighttime show for twenty twenty five. Next week and the
Speaker 1: week after that, I'll be doing afternoon shows filling in
Speaker 1: for Eddie and Rocky all next week and the week
Speaker 1: after that leading up to New Year. So it's my
Speaker 1: last nighttime show. Joe Hoft is one of my great
Speaker 1: guests that I have that I have on this show
Speaker 1: on a recurring basis, and it's gonna be great to
Speaker 1: talk to him. And then my buddy doctor Sheldon Roth.
Speaker 1: Haven't spoken to him in a while, and he wrote
Speaker 1: a book about Trump, about Trump's Beautiful Mind. And I
Speaker 1: was listening to Chuck Schumer earlier today Chuck Schumer felt
Speaker 1: compelled to go to the floor of the Senate and
Speaker 1: speak on Trump and psychoanalyzed Trump, and we'll compare Chuck
Speaker 1: Schumer's analysis of Trump and his mental state compared to
Speaker 1: doctor Sheldon Roth. So I say, I think that that'll
Speaker 1: be interesting. In the meantime, I want to follow up
Speaker 1: on the last couple of days ever since the murder
Speaker 1: of Rob Reiner in California, and that was terrible news
Speaker 1: when that broke over the weekend. I considered Rob Ryan
Speaker 1: to be a very talented individual. I've watched his movies
Speaker 1: over the years, especially Princess Bride, and I mean there's
Speaker 1: there's his ability to direct and the way he could
Speaker 1: communicate a story and a message just the top knives.
Speaker 1: The talent is undeniable, and so I was horrified learning
Speaker 1: the details of what happened to him and his wife.
Speaker 1: And so that is an absolutely tragic circumstance. If what
Speaker 1: is alleged to have happened with his son stabbing them
Speaker 1: to death, it's a terrible thing. And one of the
Speaker 1: things that happened over the weekend was that Donald Trump
Speaker 1: put out a statement and the first thing he said
Speaker 1: it was very sad. But Donald Trump was no fan
Speaker 1: of Rob Reiner. I disagreed in the most profound ways
Speaker 1: possible with Rob Reiner when it came to political issues,
Speaker 1: and he was quite prolific on his social media of
Speaker 1: putting stuff out that was anti Trump and all the rest.
Speaker 1: And he's and he's has been one of the loudest
Speaker 1: voices when it comes to saying bad things about Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: And so it seemed to me that it would not
Speaker 1: be unexpected that Trump would not deviate from who he
Speaker 1: is as a person to go out and just and
Speaker 1: say nice things about Rob Reiner. And so Trump put
Speaker 1: a statement out there that a lot of people didn't
Speaker 1: care for, They didn't like it. I wasn't particularly and
Speaker 1: crazy about it. Here's what I wrote on my x
Speaker 1: feet about the about the statement that Trump put out there,
Speaker 1: and I wrote this, Trump was staying true to who
Speaker 1: he is, and some may find that distasteful. I'd prefer
Speaker 1: it if his statement on Reiner was more artful crafted,
Speaker 1: but overall it's fairly tame compared to statements that have
Speaker 1: come from the left in similar circumstances. And I stand
Speaker 1: by that. When I wrote that, I was reminded of
Speaker 1: some of just just some of the most horrible statements,
Speaker 1: just some of some of the most terrible things imaginable
Speaker 1: that were put out there. And when we saw the
Speaker 1: assassination of Charlie Kirk, and this would not be the
Speaker 1: first time that we have had just some of the
Speaker 1: worst statements imaginable after someone who was well known on
Speaker 1: the right passes away, and the absolute joy that is
Speaker 1: expressed by some of the people who put those statements out.
Speaker 1: So there were some people who saw that that I
Speaker 1: posted that on my x feed over the weekend, and
Speaker 1: they tried to take me in a task for that,
Speaker 1: saying that you know, I don't know what I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: and that you know you did. Didn't your mom ever
Speaker 1: tell you not to? You know, you can't see anything nice,
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. And so I'm getting ready
Speaker 1: for the show today and I see that Larry Elder,
Speaker 1: who was a great talk show host in his own right,
Speaker 1: he wrote a piece about Rob Reiner and as I said,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump was no fan of Rob Reiner. And I remember,
Speaker 1: oh gosh, it was had to be six seven years ago.
Speaker 1: I did almost almost an entire show about something that
Speaker 1: Rob Reiner wrote that was just just really terrible, and
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time. It was a it
Speaker 1: was a Saturday show, but it was just some of
Speaker 1: the some of the most terrible stuff, and I pretty
Speaker 1: much dissected just about everything he had to say and
Speaker 1: took issue with what he had to say. And I
Speaker 1: just remembered that he could. He was perfectly capable of
Speaker 1: saying horrible things in his own right. And so Larry
Speaker 1: Elder wrote a piece about this, and he talks about
Speaker 1: Donald Trump could have taken the high ground rather than
Speaker 1: excoriating Rob Reiner. The actor, director, producer found stab to
Speaker 1: death along with his wife. Reiner's son, Nick, has been
Speaker 1: arrested in connection with the murders. Trump doubled down in
Speaker 1: a true social post, telling reporters, I think he hurt
Speaker 1: himself career wise. He became like a deranged person Trump
Speaker 1: derangement syndrome. So I was not a fan of Rob
Speaker 1: Ryder at all in any way, shape or form. I
Speaker 1: thought he was very bad for our country. So why
Speaker 1: would you expect, knowing what you know about Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: for him to react any other way. If someone punches him,
Speaker 1: he punches back harder. And there are certain things I
Speaker 1: think that he lets go and doesn't hold on to.
Speaker 1: But I don't think he was ever friends with Rob Reiner.
Speaker 1: I don't think Yner ever reached out to him. I
Speaker 1: don't think they certainly didn't reach out to each other.
Speaker 1: But he just didn't care for and he wasn't going
Speaker 1: to change that, even though he was murdered in his
Speaker 1: own home. And Larry Elder goes on. Criticism about Trump's
Speaker 1: harsh remarks even came from Trump supporters, But consider Rob
Speaker 1: Reiner's actions against and statements about candidate and President Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Here we go. Reiner, months after Trump won the presidency
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, co founded the Nonpartisan Committee to Investigate Russia.
Speaker 1: Its mission said Reiner was to serve as a one
Speaker 1: stop shop where people can come and be made aware
Speaker 1: of what the breaking news stories are today, the various investigations,
Speaker 1: what stages they are in, but also to understand the
Speaker 1: history and what the Soviet Union and now Russia has
Speaker 1: been trying to do for many, many years. My concern
Speaker 1: is people don't understand the gravity of what they were
Speaker 1: able to do. This committee's advisory board includes former Director
Speaker 1: of National Intelligence James Clapper, We've all heard that name before,
Speaker 1: former Director of the CIA, Michael Hayden, former Secretary of Defense,
Speaker 1: director of the CIA, and former White House Chief of
Speaker 1: Staff Leon Pennetta. Former acting Director of the CIA Michael Morrell.
Speaker 1: They were among the fifty one senior former intelligence officials
Speaker 1: who signed the letter claiming the Hunter Biden laptop story
Speaker 1: has all the classic gear marks of a Russian information operation,
Speaker 1: and I think we know how that turned out, do
Speaker 1: we not. So Rob Reiner had what he believed to
Speaker 1: be some very heavy hitters on this committee to keep
Speaker 1: people up to date on what was happening with the Trumpster.
Speaker 1: The Trump Russian collusion narratives has been debunked. The Russians
Speaker 1: failed to change a single vote tally as to the
Speaker 1: Russian interfere to help Trump narrative. Director of National Intelligence
Speaker 1: Tulsea Gabbert stated the President Obama and his national security
Speaker 1: Cabinet members manufactured and politicized intelligence to lay the groundwork
Speaker 1: for what was essentially a year's long coup against President Trump,
Speaker 1: and the Hunter Biden laptop story was not only true,
Speaker 1: but it also revealed President Joe Biden clearly lied when
Speaker 1: he denied knowing anything about his son's overseas business dealers.
Speaker 1: In twenty seventeen, in an interview with Variety, Runn described
Speaker 1: Trump as quote mentally unfit to serve as commander in
Speaker 1: chief and called him the single most unqualified human being
Speaker 1: to ever assume the presidency of the United States. In
Speaker 1: another interview, Reiner said, I'm going to tell you the truth.
Speaker 1: You have a complete and utter lying buffoon. He's a fraud.
Speaker 1: He lies, he cheats people. Everything that comes out of
Speaker 1: his mouth is virtually a lie. He's a con man,
Speaker 1: and if you look at what he's done with his
Speaker 1: career and how he's tricked people into things, it's abhorrent.
Speaker 1: I never liked George W. Bush his policies, but I
Speaker 1: didn't hate the guy. I hate this man, and Reiner
Speaker 1: has been a continuous one stop shop for anti Trump insults.
Speaker 1: Not only does he not understand this is a Hiner
Speaker 1: quote here. Not only does he not understand how government works,
Speaker 1: he has no interest and trying to find out how
Speaker 1: it works. You have one candidate Trump who actually tells
Speaker 1: you he's going to govern like an authoritarian. These are
Speaker 1: again Reiner quotes. Do we want fascism or do we
Speaker 1: want to continue the two hundred and forty eight years
Speaker 1: of self rule? Do we want to continue democracy or
Speaker 1: do we want to slip into fascism. He wants to
Speaker 1: destroy the constitution, go after his political enemies, and turn
Speaker 1: America into an autocracy. We see autocracy making us move
Speaker 1: around the world, and so if we crumble, there's a
Speaker 1: danger that the democracy crumbles around the world. It's really
Speaker 1: gotten to a very scary place in this country. Senator
Speaker 1: John Kennedy of Louisiana struck the right tone when asked
Speaker 1: about Trump's condemnation of Reiner. Kennedy says, a wise man
Speaker 1: once said nothing. Why because he's a wise man, I
Speaker 1: think President Trump should have said nothing. Well, we can
Speaker 1: all agree on that man. It appears Reiner made no
Speaker 1: public comment about the Butler, Pennsylvania assassination attempt against Trump,
Speaker 1: but saying, as Trump did about Reiner, I'm not a
Speaker 1: fan is a far cry from saying that he hates him.
Speaker 1: As Reiner said about Trump, the question is whether it's
Speaker 1: fair and reasonable for Trump to show grace to someone
Speaker 1: who never offered the slightest bit of grace to him.
Speaker 1: And that's the writing of Larry Elder. So Rob Reiner
Speaker 1: went out of his way to speak poorly of Trump,
Speaker 1: to level false accusations against him, to go down the
Speaker 1: fascist road, and inuation, go down the Hitler road. And
Speaker 1: he said, I mean his own words, that he hates him.
Speaker 1: And so when he's murdered in his own home, unfortunately tragically,
Speaker 1: Trump all of a sudden is supposed to bend over
Speaker 1: backwards and say nice things. I know it's ingrained in
Speaker 1: a lot of us, and including myself, that you do
Speaker 1: not speak ill of the dead, and I I tend
Speaker 1: to agree with that. I would have rather that Trump
Speaker 1: put out no statement at all compared to the one
Speaker 1: that he did. But when you actually look at what
Speaker 1: he said, it's fairly tame, fairly simply pointing out some
Speaker 1: of the facts Trump staying true and really in the
Speaker 1: in the in the long run, aren't we better off
Speaker 1: having leadership, especially political leadership, really any kind of leadership,
Speaker 1: whether it's private business, whether it's your own family, what,
Speaker 1: any kind of leadership staying true to who they are,
Speaker 1: being the person they are, instead of changing as the
Speaker 1: wind blows to accommodate certain people or certain ideas or
Speaker 1: whatever the fashion of the day. Is better off having
Speaker 1: someone who's true to themselves, who's true to the people
Speaker 1: that they're speaking to. So fine, you know you want
Speaker 1: to take me to task for what I said about
Speaker 1: Trump's comment, I mean, you're you are more than welcome
Speaker 1: to and you're more than well welcome to pick up
Speaker 1: the phone and call me five one, three, seven, four
Speaker 1: nine seven eight hundred, the Big One. I'll be here
Speaker 1: till midnight tonight if you would like to do that.
Speaker 1: But I haven't spoken about it until now, so I
Speaker 1: just wanted to get that out of the way, and
Speaker 1: I got tons of other stuff I want to talk
Speaker 1: about tonight as well, so we will do that as
Speaker 1: we roll on till midnight tonight. It is the Thursday
Speaker 1: night edition of the midweek Crisis Dan Carroll till midnight
Speaker 1: tonight on seven hundred WLW seven hundred WLW nine thirty eight. Hey,
Speaker 1: Joe Wattell, so can we find any Christmas music to
Speaker 1: bump in with? Do you have do you have access
Speaker 1: to any any If do you have some right there?
Speaker 1: Can we you know, start this breakover again if you
Speaker 1: find find another selection? You know, maybe some Charlie Brown
Speaker 1: Christmas music would be great. And you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know about you, and let me throw this question out there. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about it. I'm just I'm not really feeling
Speaker 1: the Christmas music this year. I mean, usually around this
Speaker 1: time in the year, I got I've got a couple
Speaker 1: of different Christmas CDs in my car and I you know,
Speaker 1: Mike Carr was still I still played the CDs in
Speaker 1: my car, I got CD player, and uh, just not,
Speaker 1: I'm just just not into it this year.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I'm usually saying some of the FM stations they got
Speaker 1: all Christmas music all the time, but not so far
Speaker 1: this year, I haven't done that. Have you found a
Speaker 1: Christmas election yet? Joe? What we lay something on me?
Speaker 1: I mean, I I don't know what you have access
Speaker 1: to in there if you have, if you have something
Speaker 1: a little christmasy, a little seasonal, you know, lift the
Speaker 1: mood a little bit. I don't know what that was
Speaker 1: he bumped in with there, but it didn't sound very
Speaker 1: Christmas e to me. No, nothing, All right, let's not
Speaker 1: worry about it. All right, Let's say Greg from Dayton
Speaker 1: is on the line and we'll see what is on
Speaker 1: Greg's minds. To Greg, you're on seven hundred w W
Speaker 1: you guys get a ton of getting a ton of
Speaker 1: rain up there at dating tonight?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know, there's nothing that will throw you
Speaker 3: out of the Christmas smooth then to run be driving
Speaker 3: through torrential rain and seeing the forty mile an hour
Speaker 3: wind blowing Santa Reindeer and everything else all over the roads.
Speaker 1: I was thinking, what if it was still cold like
Speaker 1: it was last week, whether this be like a blizzard tonight,
Speaker 1: wouldn't it?
Speaker 3: Well believe we wouldn't be. We wouldn't be moving to
Speaker 3: Eastern It'd be terrible. So I don't I don't want
Speaker 3: to make light of the whole Rob Reiner situation. You know,
Speaker 3: obviously a tragedy. You never, no matter what side of
Speaker 3: the fence or the creek or whatever. You don't want
Speaker 3: to see anything happen like this. That being said, I
Speaker 3: just I wondered in my mind, how long will it
Speaker 3: take for somebody with the AI capability to start showing
Speaker 3: the Archie Bunker clips of Trump's head on Archie Bunker
Speaker 3: dealing with meathead.
Speaker 1: That's a good question. I would not be surprised if
Speaker 1: they if they exist already, I have not seen one yet.
Speaker 3: I haven't either, but you know, it's coming.
Speaker 1: Probably it'll probably be out there. I mean, everything else
Speaker 1: along those kind of lines is out there, So I
Speaker 1: haven't seen it yet, but I'll keep an eye out
Speaker 1: for it.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 3: And I've seen, you know too obvious sayings that that
Speaker 3: we can apply to this, you know from the media.
Speaker 3: You know, don't don't poke the bear. They know what
Speaker 3: they're doing. They know how to get Trump going. Uh
Speaker 3: and if you don't want to hear it, then don't ask.
Speaker 4: But they do.
Speaker 3: They they this is what motivates them, you know, to
Speaker 3: to get him going. And secondly, for for Trump, you know,
Speaker 3: stop taking the bait. There has to be some point
Speaker 3: that that he can put put his emotions in neutral
Speaker 3: or or whatever and just stay silent. That would tickle
Speaker 3: me to death. I'm a Trump supporter, but there are
Speaker 3: times when he walks to the podium that I cringe
Speaker 3: because I think, what's he going to say?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 1: Man, My sense of it is is that he is
Speaker 1: actually has been a bit more restrained this time around
Speaker 1: than he was during his first term.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, you're exactly right. I'm one in that camp
Speaker 3: has been able to harness him a little bit.
Speaker 1: I would imagine Susie Wiles, his chief of staff, has
Speaker 1: had something to do with that. And I just think
Speaker 1: he's got overall, he's got better people around him. But
Speaker 1: look at Trump. Trump, he is who he is. I mean,
Speaker 1: what what is He's seventy eight years old, seventy nine
Speaker 1: years old. He is not going he is not going
Speaker 1: to change. And essentially, all I said was that this
Speaker 1: is And look, there are a lot of people who
Speaker 1: immediately came out and said this is wrong. He shouldn't
Speaker 1: have said that. He you know, it was an apology. Well,
Speaker 1: I really I don't think any of that that is
Speaker 1: Trump being it is. It is who he is, and
Speaker 1: he might have been better off saying nothing at all,
Speaker 1: but it's it's who he is and all and all
Speaker 1: he said was he didn't think Rob Reiner was good
Speaker 1: for the country, and he think Rob Rider had a
Speaker 1: serious case of TVs, which if you look at what
Speaker 1: he did, I mean, he was Rob Reiner. He came
Speaker 1: out and he said he hated Trump, called him a fascist,
Speaker 1: I mean, all the other stuff, and just when just
Speaker 1: went down that rabbit hole of repeating stuff and believing
Speaker 1: stuff that said that simply wasn't true. But Greg, I
Speaker 1: appreciate the call tonight and the Merry Christmas shirt YouTube Christs.
Speaker 1: All right, there you go. That's great. From dating. Let's
Speaker 1: go to West Union. We'll say I haven't talk to
Speaker 1: Steve in West Union for a little while. Then we
Speaker 1: got Bradley and Yellow Springs. Steve seven hundred, ww.
Speaker 2: Dan, how are you.
Speaker 1: I'm good, Steve. Good to hear your voice.
Speaker 2: I got a I got a list, Okay, I want
Speaker 2: to I want to just read it, okay, mare Win
Speaker 2: and at the end I will get in a summary.
Speaker 1: Keep it clean, Keep it clean.
Speaker 2: This is one of the worst years of my entire life.
Speaker 2: I'm sixty four years old and this year has been
Speaker 2: absolutely devastated. First, my wife is overcoming breast cats. Yes,
Speaker 2: I'm disabled, veteran, so I'm kind of house down and
Speaker 2: all that. All right, So we're getting there. Over that
Speaker 2: December second, my favorite little girl, Don'gie Day, she died
Speaker 2: and it's broke my heart. I can barely speak.
Speaker 1: About it now. I had to put. I had to
Speaker 1: put a couple of months ago, and it was it
Speaker 1: was terrible. So I feel you there, brother.
Speaker 2: Doctor told me I wasn't allowed to have testosterone anymore,
Speaker 2: and that kind of messes with my whole love life.
Speaker 2: And I asked him why, and he said, putting testosterone
Speaker 2: on an issue with your prostate is like putting an
Speaker 2: ape palm on fire. So I've been going without testosterone
Speaker 2: when my test ozone level is lower than a girl.
Speaker 2: So I can't hardly move, oh man, until they figure
Speaker 2: it out, and then maybe with a little luck, I'll
Speaker 2: get it. My son has decided to divorce his wife
Speaker 2: for ten years. They lived two blocks down the road.
Speaker 1: Oh boy.
Speaker 2: I moved here to help them succeed, and all I
Speaker 2: did was get burned a little bit. I love my son.
Speaker 2: He's a good kid. He's a firefighter. He's actually saved
Speaker 2: brad Winstrop's family a couple of times. But Anyway, he's
Speaker 2: a good kid. He found he's true and now we're
Speaker 2: dealing with that. He spends most of his time in Harrison, Ohio,
Speaker 2: wherever the hell that is, and she is down the
Speaker 2: block from me. Now, I've got a few other things
Speaker 2: that I don't want to, you know, go overboard.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, we get to the point
Speaker 1: of this, Steve, what's the point of all this?
Speaker 4: Is?
Speaker 5: IM better?
Speaker 2: It's Christmas. I have a I have a good heart.
Speaker 2: I've done the best I can. And everybody out there
Speaker 2: with troubles, uh, sometimes your troubles aren't as big as
Speaker 2: your troubles you think. And and if you just trust
Speaker 2: in the true meaning of Christmas, it'll all be okay.
Speaker 1: Steve. But that is ah, that is a good outlook.
Speaker 1: I uh. I sympathize with you for your the hardships
Speaker 1: that you've had this year. I wish you nothing but
Speaker 1: the best. I thank you for your service. Gotta get better,
Speaker 1: gotta get better. You gotta gotta gotta gotta keep gotta
Speaker 1: keep looking up and Steve, uh, and we thank you
Speaker 1: very much for that call. So Steve is having his difficulties,
Speaker 1: but he is going to choose to look at the
Speaker 1: at the re and for the season. So I think
Speaker 1: that's a that's a good idea. Let's go to Yellow Springs.
Speaker 1: And this is Bradley Bradley seven hundred w w Hey,
Speaker 1: how you doing. I'm good. I'm good, Bradley? How are
Speaker 1: you tonight?
Speaker 6: I'm doing all right? Yeah, that was a hard one
Speaker 6: to follow. I just want to wish that Steve gentlemen,
Speaker 6: you know, good vibes. I guess is like, I don't
Speaker 6: really know what to say to that. That was a
Speaker 6: hard one to come up on.
Speaker 1: He's had He's had his share this year, so probably
Speaker 1: more than his more than his share. So that's life.
Speaker 1: Ain't always fair?
Speaker 3: Brother?
Speaker 6: You know the one thing I wanted to comment about
Speaker 6: tonight and I've never called in, but I listen. Uh
Speaker 6: is it? I know you have a video or audio
Speaker 6: of things that he has said about Uh isn't it Trump?
Speaker 6: But have you and I know your producer does has
Speaker 6: the audio of what mister Reiner said when Charlie cook
Speaker 6: Kirk was killed.
Speaker 1: And how I don't think that. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: recall making any any any statement or certainly not a
Speaker 1: negative statement about Charlie Klie.
Speaker 6: Well when he was a siding and you made it
Speaker 6: very positive and and I mean just heartfelt that you know,
Speaker 6: political violence is wrong.
Speaker 1: You're right, You're right, that's yeah. When Charlie Kirk was killed, Yes,
Speaker 1: Rob Ryder did say that he was I mean, he
Speaker 1: was being interviewed on the Peers Morgan Show. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: he talked about you know, he's and what he said
Speaker 1: was paraphrasing here is that I don't care what side
Speaker 1: of the political isol you're on. You know, this this
Speaker 1: sort of let's say it's wrong. He called he called
Speaker 1: it out. He said, he said it was wrong, and
Speaker 1: uh he Uh. I think his words were very very
Speaker 1: well taken at that point.
Speaker 6: I agree, sir, But I just think that the way
Speaker 6: the president handled the other side of it was a
Speaker 6: bit classless. Uh yeah, the level of the presidency. I
Speaker 6: don't believe you.
Speaker 1: Can say that it was it was not. It was
Speaker 1: not his best moment. But then again, he didn't come
Speaker 1: out and he did he didn't say that he hated
Speaker 1: Rob Reiner. He did, he didn't really speak ill of him.
Speaker 1: He said he was not a Rob Reiner fan. And
Speaker 1: then and that is simply the truth. And you know,
Speaker 1: he said based on the things that Rob Reiner did
Speaker 1: during the course of his life, in the course of
Speaker 1: trumpeting in the in the Oval office, and he said
Speaker 1: he didn't think Rober.
Speaker 6: We all have a right to criticize the president and
Speaker 6: it's not like illegal, pretty thing.
Speaker 1: No, that's fine. No, criticize the president all you want,
Speaker 1: but if you're gonna do it, at least try to
Speaker 1: be at least try to be factual in your criticism.
Speaker 6: I can understand that.
Speaker 3: And then look, you.
Speaker 1: Know, talking about the Russian collusion, talking about being a fascist, comparing.
Speaker 6: Those are words that people throw around. But I mean
Speaker 6: he's like, he's so mad at just like the late
Speaker 6: night talk show hosts that literally just are throwing comedy
Speaker 6: around about him, and it just drives him.
Speaker 1: Well. I mean, one of the what's up do you find?
Speaker 2: You?
Speaker 5: Did you find.
Speaker 6: On the President's Walk of you Gotta you Gotta he
Speaker 6: wrote them himself and like you got you got a
Speaker 6: bit of somebody. I don't understand the way you would
Speaker 6: put it in bronze and the picture.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw those, I saw. I know what you're
Speaker 1: talking about.
Speaker 6: Actually, I meant to talk about you know, I just
Speaker 6: want to make that Clayer to you man, I meant
Speaker 6: to talk about those.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 6: What the heck?
Speaker 1: But Bradley, I appreciate the phone call, and Merry Christmas.
Speaker 6: To you, you too, brother.
Speaker 1: Year all right, Happy New Year, Bradley and Yellow Spring. Now,
Speaker 1: if you haven't heard about this. At the White House,
Speaker 1: there are a series of presidential portraits and underneath those
Speaker 1: presidential portraits, Donald Trump has posted his own captions underneath
Speaker 1: those presidential portraits. And let me see I had that.
Speaker 1: Let me see if I can find this real quick,
Speaker 1: because I know I had it last night, but I
Speaker 1: ran out of time to talk about it. And he uh,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got Wayne Allen Root to piece and
Speaker 1: I've got that talking about the portrait of Obama, and
Speaker 1: Wayne Allen Root says that Trump was not hard enough
Speaker 1: on Obama. And then he and under one of the
Speaker 1: portraits it you know, it talks about and and the
Speaker 1: and the and the The captions that he put underneath
Speaker 1: are they look like these plaques you see on historical markers.
Speaker 1: So it's it's really kind of you guy. If you
Speaker 1: haven't seen him yet, you got to look him up.
Speaker 1: You got to see him. Let's see. Yeah, So under
Speaker 1: the picture of Joe Biden. I guess he you know,
Speaker 1: he's still got the picture of the auto pen. Let
Speaker 1: me see, I think he's still got the picture of
Speaker 1: the autopen for for Joe Biden. And here's what he wrote, uh,
Speaker 1: and underneath it read sleepy. Joe Biden was by far
Speaker 1: the worst president in a Mayora and history. Taking office
Speaker 1: as a result of the most corrupt election ever seen
Speaker 1: in the United States, Biden oversaw a series of unprecedented
Speaker 1: disasters that brought on nation to the brink of destruction.
Speaker 1: His policies caused the highest inflation ever recorded, leading the
Speaker 1: US dollar to lose more than twenty percent of its
Speaker 1: value in four years. His Green News scam surrendered American
Speaker 1: energy dominance, and by abolishing the Southern border, Biden let
Speaker 1: twenty one million people in from all over the world
Speaker 1: pour into the United States, including from prisons, jail's, mental institutions,
Speaker 1: and insane asylums. His Afghanistan disaster was among the most
Speaker 1: humiliating events in American history and resulted in the murder
Speaker 1: of thirteen brave American service members, with many others gravely wounded.
Speaker 1: Seeing Biden's devastating weakness, Russia invaded Ukraine and Hamas terrorists
Speaker 1: launched the heinous October seventh attack on Israel. Nicknamed both
Speaker 1: Sleepy and Crooked, Joe, Biden was dominated by his radical
Speaker 1: left handlers. They and their allies in the fake news
Speaker 1: media attempted to cover up his severe mental decline and
Speaker 1: is unprinted unprecedented use of the auto pen. Following is
Speaker 1: humiliating debate loss to President Trump in the Big June
Speaker 1: twenty four debate, he was forced to withdraw his campaign
Speaker 1: for re election in disgrace. Biden weaponized law enforcement against
Speaker 1: his political opponent while also persecuting many other innocent people.
Speaker 1: He left office issuing blanket pardons to radical Democrat criminals
Speaker 1: and thugs, as well as members of the Biden crime family.
Speaker 1: But despite it all, President Trump would get re elected
Speaker 1: in a landslide and save America. And that's the caption
Speaker 1: that you'll find under the Biden auto pen portrait at
Speaker 1: the Wall of Fame, next to the rose Guard and
Speaker 1: the other ones for a Clinton and who else I
Speaker 1: think he's got Clinton, Reagan Bush equally entertaining nine to
Speaker 1: fifty five. We got to get to a break news
Speaker 1: coming up top of the on seven hundred WLW back
Speaker 1: on the Big One, seven hundred WLW, Dan Carroll till
Speaker 1: midnight tonight the Thursday night edition on the Midway crisis
Speaker 1: and UH the phone lines are open five one three
Speaker 1: under the Big One, having trouble reaching our guests Joe Hoft,
Speaker 1: Joe Hoft of the UH, formerly of the Gateway Pundit,
Speaker 1: now of Joe Hooff dot com. Guy does a great
Speaker 1: job reporting the different stories. And I was gonna ask
Speaker 1: him about UH the UH. The Colorado Governor Tina peters
Speaker 1: Don Donald Trump pardoned her last week. She went to
Speaker 1: jail for pointing out some election misdeeds that she that
Speaker 1: she discovered. So we're going to try and reach Joe
Speaker 1: Hoft and see if we can't. If we can't get
Speaker 1: him on the show in the meantime, then let's go
Speaker 1: to Florida. We'll say hey to Jeff, who's been on
Speaker 1: hold for a little while. And Jeff, you're on seven
Speaker 1: hundred WLW.
Speaker 5: Hey, Dan, you're worth listening to, buddy. Thanks for taking
Speaker 5: my call.
Speaker 1: All right, well, thank you thanks for calling.
Speaker 5: No problem. You're talking about all these bad things. Let's
Speaker 5: let's get real recent. Are you aware today that I
Speaker 5: don't know if it was the Senate or the House,
Speaker 5: two hundred and thirty or two hundred and three Democrats
Speaker 5: voted against a bill that was passed, thank goodness, that
Speaker 5: will revoke Medicare Medicaid funding for butcher doctors that want
Speaker 5: to cut some little kit up that's ten and eleven
Speaker 5: and twelve years old. Whatever that he or she may think,
Speaker 5: he's not what he or she is. What's your opinion
Speaker 5: about that, old bud.
Speaker 1: I've got it. I've got it here right in front
Speaker 1: of me that it was. It was actually Marjorie. It
Speaker 1: was actually Marjorie Taylor Green who sponsored this bill, this bill,
Speaker 1: and uh it's uh, she got one last victory. The
Speaker 1: House voted Wednesday last night to pass Green's bill. It
Speaker 1: criminalizes child sex change procedures nationwide. And there were four
Speaker 1: House Republicans that voted against this bill, Henry Weller, Vincent
Speaker 1: Gonzalez of Texas, Don Davis of North Carolina. So you've
Speaker 1: got well of those were those were the Democrats who
Speaker 1: actually supported, uh, this this bill by Green. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you know, the look, the whole thing about protecting children
Speaker 1: when it comes to these procedures, and not only that
Speaker 1: but health and human services. Uh. But it was Robert
Speaker 1: Kennedy today announced a series of proposed regulatory actions to
Speaker 1: carry out Donald Trump's executive order directing Health and Human
Speaker 1: Services to end the practice of sex rejecting procedures on kids.
Speaker 1: So this whole notion, and you know, you've got the
Speaker 1: American Academy of Pediatrics, and you've got all these influencers,
Speaker 1: and you know, all these transtrans activists who call this
Speaker 1: gender affirming care. And the previous yeah, the previous Undersecretary
Speaker 1: of Health and Human Services that we had, Rachel Levin,
Speaker 1: and she had all been out of shape because her
Speaker 1: real name is you know, his real name is Richard.
Speaker 1: And last week Trump put not Trump, but who's ever
Speaker 1: in charge of Kennedy the Health of Human Services. They
Speaker 1: put Richard's Levin name underneath the portrait over there at
Speaker 1: the over there at the agency. And so Levin got
Speaker 1: all bent out of shape about it. And I reminded people,
Speaker 1: you know what Rachel Levin stood for. And Rachel Levin
Speaker 1: went in front of the American people and said that
Speaker 1: these surgeries are necessary, that they save lives, that kids needed.
Speaker 5: A liar.
Speaker 1: Of course, she's a liar, and she's a she's a
Speaker 1: danger to kids.
Speaker 5: Okay, just hold on that old body. I've got a background.
Speaker 5: I understand the effects of physiological and psychological trauma on people.
Speaker 5: I was well trained in the army. Okay, now you
Speaker 5: can't tell me get somebody to look you in the
Speaker 5: eye and go, oh yeah. A doctor cutting on a ten, eleven,
Speaker 5: twelve year old kid that probably needs a psychia trists
Speaker 5: is not violating the Hippocratics. I mean, it's common sense
Speaker 5: that the you know, the last thing you want to
Speaker 5: do is open somebody up. Okay, a lot of things
Speaker 5: can go wrong. You don't do invasive stuff unless it's
Speaker 5: extremely necessary. I know that from watching surgeons and getting
Speaker 5: cut on a lot. But my point is, how in
Speaker 5: the world could any doctor look anything in the eye
Speaker 5: when he's taking the Hippocratic oath, which is first do
Speaker 5: no harm, and he's going to cut on a little kid.
Speaker 5: That's the solution. That's a bunch of baloney. You know what,
Speaker 5: thought I was pretty good. I didn't curse.
Speaker 1: I've talked about this subject for years now, and I
Speaker 1: have from the very beginning. I asked myself the same question,
Speaker 1: How can anyone who calls himself a doctor actually go
Speaker 1: through with a procedure like this, and one of the
Speaker 1: best examples that I ever saw, one of the best
Speaker 1: questions that's ever come up on this issue that if
Speaker 1: if you're a doctor, it's different. You can look at
Speaker 1: you can look at a human body and you can
Speaker 1: see if there's cancer in there, you can see a tumor,
Speaker 1: you can see, you know, a broken bone, and you
Speaker 1: know that if nothing is done, then that cancer is
Speaker 1: just going to get worse. That broken bone is not
Speaker 1: going to heal itself, and so that sort of intervention
Speaker 1: is needed. But when it comes to a procedure like this,
Speaker 1: if if that, if you do nothing, if you do nothing,
Speaker 1: what harm is done to the body? Absolutely, and.
Speaker 5: So well, I tell you oil old, but just hold on, man.
Speaker 5: I appreciate you having the hanging down things to voice
Speaker 5: your opinion. I'm sure a lot of people think you're
Speaker 5: goofy or in a box of rocks, but I tell
Speaker 5: you what, I believe there's a lot more people to
Speaker 5: think you're a pretty sharp guy. So God bless you
Speaker 5: and take your next call or all that good.
Speaker 1: So, Jef, thank you very much for the call. I
Speaker 1: appreciate I hate that and no people that listen to
Speaker 1: this show. They know I've been talking about this subject
Speaker 1: for years, and thank god for Kennedy, and well you
Speaker 1: had Marjorie Taylor Green who got this motion passed last night.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's what it's going to do
Speaker 1: in the in the Senate, but today, you know, you
Speaker 1: had Kennedy moved to create these regulatory actions that would
Speaker 1: prevent these procedures from taking praise the sweeping proposals are
Speaker 1: the most significant moves the Trump administration has taken so
Speaker 1: far to restrict the use of puberty blockers, hormone therapy,
Speaker 1: and surgical interventions for transgender children. He called so called
Speaker 1: gender affirming care for children not medicine, but malpractice. He said,
Speaker 1: HHS is done with junk science, driven by ideological pursuits,
Speaker 1: not the well being of children. Kennedy said the moves
Speaker 1: are guided by the gold Standards of science and anchored
Speaker 1: in HHS peer reviewed a peer reviewed review of evidence
Speaker 1: that the department published last month on pediatric gender dysphoria.
Speaker 1: According to Health and Human Services, the department's actions include
Speaker 1: two news centers for Medicare and Medicaid services, notices of
Speaker 1: proposed rulemaking, one proposal with bar hospitals participating in Medicare
Speaker 1: and Medicaid from performing sex rejection procedures on children under
Speaker 1: the age of eighteen as a condition of participation. A
Speaker 1: second proposal would prohibit federal Medicaid funding for such procedures
Speaker 1: for those under eighteen, and would apply similarly similarly to
Speaker 1: the Children's Health and Insurance Program for individuals under nineteen.
Speaker 1: Press release said Kennedy signed a declaration finding these interventions
Speaker 1: do not meet professionally recognize standards of healthcare, with practitioners
Speaker 1: deemed out of compliance under that declaration. HHS further announced
Speaker 1: that Food and Drug Administration is issuing warning letters to
Speaker 1: twelve manufacturers and retailers over the illegal marketing of breast
Speaker 1: binders to children for the purpose of treating gender dysphoria,
Speaker 1: warning of possible enforcement actions. In addition, HHS said it
Speaker 1: is moving to reverse a biden ear attempt to include
Speaker 1: gender dysphoria within the definition of disability under section five
Speaker 1: oh four of the Rehabilitation Act, seeking to reassure recipients
Speaker 1: of HHS funds that policies limiting these procedures do not
Speaker 1: violate federal disability non demonstration, demonstration, non discrimination, and requirements.
Speaker 1: So Trump put out an executive order, and now these
Speaker 1: regulatory tools are expected to aid in that order being
Speaker 1: carried out. Let's see Thursday's announcement in perils access to
Speaker 1: nearly two dozen states where drug treatments and surgical procedures
Speaker 1: are mainly legal and funded by Medicaid, which includes federal
Speaker 1: and state dollars. More than half of the US state's
Speaker 1: already banned or restrict gender changing care. And the word
Speaker 1: care should not be used with that because it is.
Speaker 1: It's butchery. I mean, it really is. Let's see, and
Speaker 1: then you've got this bill that was passed by Marjorie Taylor.
Speaker 1: Green House voted Wednesday to pass greens bill criminalizing child
Speaker 1: sex change procedures nationwide four Republicans. The four Republicans voted
Speaker 1: against the bill are Gabe Evans of Colorado, Brian Fitzpatrick
Speaker 1: of Pennsylvania, Mike Kennedy of Utah, and Mike Lawler of
Speaker 1: New York. Green's bill, the Protect Children's Innocence Act, would
Speaker 1: make it a Class C felony to perform child sex
Speaker 1: change procedures and often an offense punishable up to ten
Speaker 1: years in prison. Parents and those who assist minors in
Speaker 1: gaining access to sex change procedures would also be subject
Speaker 1: to punishment. The vote mark the first time legislation banning
Speaker 1: puberty blockers, hormones, and surgeries for miners seeking to alter
Speaker 1: their biological sex reach the House floor. Republicans showed today
Speaker 1: they are as committed to detecting children as Democrats are
Speaker 1: to disfiguring them, said Terry Shilling, president of the American
Speaker 1: Principles Project. Democrats have been captured by an ideology that
Speaker 1: is poisonous, that is as poisonous as it is profitable.
Speaker 1: Green has sought to enact a nationwide ban on child
Speaker 1: sex changes since twenty twenty two, but a floor vote
Speaker 1: on her legislation has been elusive for a long time.
Speaker 1: And so finally you've got people in Congress, and well,
Speaker 1: Marjorie keep Taylor Green is leaving Congress, but you've got
Speaker 1: people in Congress who are standing up against this sort
Speaker 1: of butchery. It is. It is just an absolute shame
Speaker 1: that this sort of thing exists in the United States.
Speaker 1: But thanks to this administration, steps are being taken to
Speaker 1: make sure that it never happens again. And all you
Speaker 1: have to do is look at the pictures look at
Speaker 1: the individuals who have been mutilated by these procedures, and
Speaker 1: you look at that. And I have said it again
Speaker 1: time and time again. You know what is wholesome or
Speaker 1: uplifting or good about any of that? It's absolutely none
Speaker 1: of it. You know, Are there kids who have difficulties
Speaker 1: with this? Are the kids who are suffering with these
Speaker 1: sort of ideations? Absolutely? But is the answer to acquiesce
Speaker 1: to their to their thoughts that were most likely implanted
Speaker 1: in their heads by activists, by individuals who for whatever
Speaker 1: reason I want to see kids go through this sort
Speaker 1: of thing? Is that? Is that the best way forward
Speaker 1: dealing with these sorts of things. None of these kids
Speaker 1: need compassion, They need real care. They need help with
Speaker 1: what is going on between their ears, not between their legs.
Speaker 1: Let's see the let me see what I mean. The
Speaker 1: I mean. The thing is, you know when when these
Speaker 1: kids come down with this kind of stuff, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's you know, the kids, they aren't The vast majority
Speaker 1: of these kids outgrow this. Advocates are transgender. This piece
Speaker 1: by Tyler O'Neill in The Daily Signal. Advocates are transgender
Speaker 1: medical interventions euphemistically refer to it as gender affirming care
Speaker 1: often seek to silence critics rather than engage in a
Speaker 1: debate on the science. One of the authors of the
Speaker 1: Health and Human Services report on the issue says he
Speaker 1: thinks he knows why. Health and Human Services published a
Speaker 1: review of the evidence regarding medical transitions from minors back
Speaker 1: in May, finding extremely weak evidence for any benefits from
Speaker 1: gender affirming care. HHS sought peer reviews, submitting its report
Speaker 1: to medical professional professionals in pro transgender health associations. Yet
Speaker 1: two of those three pro transgender groups that were approached
Speaker 1: by HHS refused to engage, and the remaining organizations appeared
Speaker 1: not to have read the full report. HHS offered the
Speaker 1: leading organizations advocating for these treatments an opportunity to have
Speaker 1: their experts participate in a rigorous peer review process. And
Speaker 1: if you're listening to me right now and you're in
Speaker 1: the medical profession, isn't that an important step? Peer review
Speaker 1: of your work. You have other professionals. Medical professionals look
Speaker 1: at what treatment you're recommending. If you have a new treatment,
Speaker 1: something that hasn't been tried before, you peer review the evidence.
Speaker 1: You subject your findings to the most rigorous type of review.
Speaker 1: Why do you do that? Because you want to be right,
Speaker 1: you want to know you're doing the right thing. And
Speaker 1: yet these organizations that advocate for this kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: they didn't want any part of it. HHS said, look,
Speaker 1: here's our report, here's our work, look at it. Tell
Speaker 1: us what you think, and that we're not going to
Speaker 1: do that. AHHS offered the leading organizations advocating for these
Speaker 1: treatments an opportunity to have their experts participate in peer
Speaker 1: and rigorous peer review process. Le Or Sleeper, a senior
Speaker 1: fellow at the Manhattan Institute, said one of the reviews,
Speaker 1: and one of the reviews nine contributors told the Daily
Speaker 1: Signal as a supplement clearly shows no such errors or
Speaker 1: o emissions could be identified. Perhaps that's why advocates of
Speaker 1: these controversial drugs and surgeries prefer silence, or preferred to
Speaker 1: silence critics and engage in smear campaigns. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: the whole thing is just as filthy, dirty and rotten
Speaker 1: as it can be. And thank God for these people
Speaker 1: that we have in the positions that they are now,
Speaker 1: who are doing everything they can to bring a stop
Speaker 1: to it. It's ten twenty five. We got to get
Speaker 1: to a break news coming up to the bottom of
Speaker 1: the hour, and we roll on till midnight tonight, Dan
Speaker 1: Carroll the Thursday night edition of The Midweek Crisis on
Speaker 1: seven hundred WW back on the Big One seven W
Speaker 1: Joe Wandell, didn't I ask you to find some Christmas
Speaker 1: music pumping with? Did you totally forget about that? I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, man, oh man, no Christmas music? Oh way,
Speaker 1: what are we going to do? All right? So last
Speaker 1: night Donald Trump went in front of the went in
Speaker 1: front of the nation and gave a gave an address
Speaker 1: talking about where we have been, talking about what he
Speaker 1: inherited from Joe Biden, talking about the economic progress that
Speaker 1: he has been trying to make. And look, these things
Speaker 1: they don't happen overnight. But all in all, I thought
Speaker 1: it was a pretty good speech. And so during the
Speaker 1: day today Chuck Schumer was so moved by that speech
Speaker 1: that he felt compelled to go to the floor of
Speaker 1: the Senate and provide a little analysis of the Trump
Speaker 1: speech and then some psychoanalysis of the president himself. And
Speaker 1: this is what Chuck Schumer sounded like today on the
Speaker 1: floor of the Senate. Let's hear cut Number.
Speaker 8: One mister president. Last night, Donald Trump gave a speech
Speaker 8: about how supposedly great his first year has been. So
Speaker 8: of course the speech was short because there's really not
Speaker 8: much to say about how great Trump has been for
Speaker 8: eighteen months, sorry for eighteen minutes. The President last night
Speaker 8: tried to convince Americans the sky is green, that trees
Speaker 8: can walk.
Speaker 1: He yelled at the camera.
Speaker 8: And said that things are somehow going great, even though
Speaker 8: costs are up. He said he's doing a great job
Speaker 8: in office, all of which is obviously false, and the
Speaker 8: American people didn't buy it. It was clear watching the
Speaker 8: speech that the President didn't want to be there. The
Speaker 8: only thing Americans saw last night was a very rich
Speaker 8: president trapped in a bubble, forced by his advisors to
Speaker 8: give a speech he didn't want to give.
Speaker 1: It's like your cousin who can't.
Speaker 8: Sit still for a Christmas photo, only this is the
Speaker 8: president of the United States.
Speaker 1: So there's Chuck Schumer talking about Trump in a bubble,
Speaker 1: forced to give a speech he didn't want to give.
Speaker 1: Do you really think that Donald Trump is the kind
Speaker 1: of guy that does things that he doesn't want to do?
Speaker 1: Joining me now is a guy that it's been way
Speaker 1: too long since I've had him on the show. Doctor
Speaker 1: Sheldon Roth, MD is the author of Psychologically Sound, The
Speaker 1: Mind of Donald J. Trump, and Doctor it is great
Speaker 1: to have you back on the show today, sir. How
Speaker 1: are you?
Speaker 4: I'm well, thank you, and I trust you are and
Speaker 4: I hope all your listeners are in this holiday season,
Speaker 4: I wish everybody a good New Year and a happy holiday.
Speaker 4: In terms of what the cut you just played, the
Speaker 4: Chuck shows you could get any body on a street
Speaker 4: corner to have the same kind of lack of insight
Speaker 4: or understanding. All he did was cast dispersions without any
Speaker 4: kind of data or understanding. And I thought the talk
Speaker 4: last night was extremely significant importance and well done for
Speaker 4: several different reasons, and if I could, then I'd like
Speaker 4: to mention them. The first that I talk about would
Speaker 4: be his psychology, the second is his stature as a present.
Speaker 4: And then sired some of the actual content I, as
Speaker 4: some other people have been, had been concerned of late
Speaker 4: in that I thought there was a certain looseness about
Speaker 4: his behavior that was beyond his usual uh A loose
Speaker 4: jocular shenanigans, the uh inappropriate response to Rob Ryner the
Speaker 4: talk in Pennsylvania in which he called affordability a hoax.
Speaker 4: I wondered what had happened to this man. This is
Speaker 4: a guy who used to go down from his office
Speaker 4: at the end of the day on Fifth Avenue, walk
Speaker 4: over to Lexington to a Korean grocery store, to his
Speaker 4: own shopping, get some chips for dinner, talk to people
Speaker 4: in the street.
Speaker 5: Where had he had.
Speaker 4: He lost contact? And I and and people so trade
Speaker 4: to tell them their point of view for fear of
Speaker 4: being seen as disloyal and then just thrown out of
Speaker 4: the inner circle. Last night, I was reassured that I
Speaker 4: have no need of fear.
Speaker 5: Of any of that.
Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, his capacity to hold that
Speaker 4: thing down to eighteen minutes, although truck Schumer, if he
Speaker 4: were a little more data conscious, would know it was
Speaker 4: more like nineteen minutes. But he actually was able to
Speaker 4: respond to his staff taking a different point of view
Speaker 4: and not repeat the performances of his loose non teleprompter
Speaker 4: off the cuff remarks that went off for ninety minutes
Speaker 4: at several rallies. He was extremely organized, well focused, and
Speaker 4: in a manner of eighteen nineteen minutes, managed to go
Speaker 4: through about one hundred different points of view, and and
Speaker 4: most of all, he was presidential and by that I
Speaker 4: meant he offered hope to the United States and wanted
Speaker 4: to help them understand that they should not be confused,
Speaker 4: that economies don't turn on a dime, that everything he's
Speaker 4: doing is in the interest of improving the everyday lives
Speaker 4: of people. And if people doubted, for example, that his
Speaker 4: tariffs were working, his ability to provide seventeen seventy six
Speaker 4: that great number of dollars to the military, which he
Speaker 4: ascribed to the tariff income as a first payoff, he's
Speaker 4: showing the country this is actually paying off, citing gasoline prices,
Speaker 4: and that he spoke the everyday needs. And he didn't falsify.
Speaker 4: He talked to exaggerations, which he always does, because remember
Speaker 4: I loved the combats that he made quite a while
Speaker 4: ago about someone said, why do you always say you're
Speaker 4: the first, you're the best, You're you're the top, you're
Speaker 4: the height. He said, when was the last time you
Speaker 4: ever went into a pizza store that had an advertisement
Speaker 4: the fourth greatest pizza in the world. So you'll have
Speaker 4: to give You have to give people something that they
Speaker 4: could long for and that and that will work, and
Speaker 4: so he took it on many everyday aspects of life.
Speaker 4: If he secured the border, the border was secure, primarily
Speaker 4: so that we could make sea streets safe again and
Speaker 4: that crime was down, and indeed crime is down across
Speaker 4: the whole nation. Or he talked about the Paul season schools,
Speaker 4: breaking the hold of the radicals and hamas on school campuses,
Speaker 4: and getting our trends women basically men out of sports
Speaker 4: and speaking up for women. And he spoke like a
Speaker 4: president who reminded everybody, this is a republic and he's
Speaker 4: going to push power back back to the States, particularly
Speaker 4: in regard to education. So every element that he picked
Speaker 4: on was an element that would provide hope, and he
Speaker 4: cut across many different angles.
Speaker 2: So the.
Speaker 4: Appeal to young women in sports was matched by the
Speaker 4: cutting down of drug prices, particularly for seniors. He gave
Speaker 4: the people. The newspapers have criticized him that he's super
Speaker 4: involved in foreign powers. There was actually very little foreign
Speaker 4: policy per se that was in that speech except mention
Speaker 4: that he is for peace. He's not a warmonger, which
Speaker 4: has been ascribed to him of late because of the
Speaker 4: Venezuela incidents. So even in that example.
Speaker 5: He was trying to.
Speaker 4: Give the people that America is first, and that he's
Speaker 4: not preoccupied beyond, beyond the beyond the average citizens. So
Speaker 4: as a matter of fact, I was concerned that he
Speaker 4: could he possibly, as Schumer said, get himself caught in
Speaker 4: a bubble in which he was only in an echo
Speaker 4: chamber and hearing himself back. But once he ended that speeches,
Speaker 4: I understand it. He turned to Susie Wilds and he said, well,
Speaker 4: did I do good? I kept it under twenty minutes.
Speaker 4: In other words, Susie Wiles, despite the fact that people
Speaker 4: have been very critical of her for the Vanity Fair article. Incidentally,
Speaker 4: no conservative should ever look themselves to be interviewed by
Speaker 4: a liberal a liberal organ. They're going to be put
Speaker 4: to the grinder. So he is responsive to the people
Speaker 4: around him, which I had been concerned about, and I
Speaker 4: couldn't I think, three weeks ago, I couldn't imagine him
Speaker 4: putting together or talk like that so are concise and
Speaker 4: so condensed. Most people, of course, thought that he was
Speaker 4: going to wind up talking about war on Venezuela. I
Speaker 4: heard one cynic h suggests that the reason the White
Speaker 4: House to let that rumor go out was so that ABC,
Speaker 4: CBS and NBC would carry the talk otherwise otherwise they
Speaker 4: would ignore it, and indeed, you know, liberal newspapers to
Speaker 4: ignore it. I happened to peruse every day the Los
Speaker 4: Angeles Times, the Washington Post, the Boston Globe, and the
Speaker 4: New York Times. Well do you know that the Los
Speaker 4: Angeles Times, on a front page had about fifteen different
Speaker 4: news items sided Not one of them was about the
Speaker 4: President of the United States, and you know, were the
Speaker 4: same for the Boston Globe. Not one mentioned on the
Speaker 4: front pages of the of those magazines. And when the
Speaker 4: Times covered it, it was actually just a couple of paragraphs,
Speaker 4: most of which were negative. Has stunned at the inability
Speaker 4: of people who call themselves journalists did not report on
Speaker 4: the fact that the President of the United States gave
Speaker 4: an address to the nation the night before. But of
Speaker 4: course we've been suffering from that long time and will
Speaker 4: continue to suffer from that. So I was reassured about
Speaker 4: his psychology because let's remember, you know, his father died
Speaker 4: of dementia, and that started in his late eighties, and
Speaker 4: towards the end, his mother was slightly demented, but not
Speaker 4: as much as the father. So far as I know
Speaker 4: his uncle John, who was who's the father's brother, renowned
Speaker 4: professor at MIT, brilliant, brilliant man. I never suffered from dementia,
Speaker 4: but that was always in the back of my mind,
Speaker 4: and I was reassured about it by his behavior and
Speaker 4: his ability to stick to the task. And whether you
Speaker 4: agree with those statistics or not, he used them. It
Speaker 4: wasn't all. Nothing was off the cuff. Everything was. Everything was.
Speaker 5: I have data on this.
Speaker 4: You can disagree with it, but I have day though
Speaker 4: I'm not like Chuck Schumer was talking like some guy
Speaker 4: in a candy store in Brooklyn. I mean, he said
Speaker 4: absolutely nothing. But Trump was filled with facts. Although I
Speaker 4: could tell you one fact then you know, he talked
Speaker 4: about how gas is coming down. Yes, I filled them
Speaker 4: back car today in LA it was five dollars a gallon.
Speaker 1: Well, well, California is a special case when it comes
Speaker 1: to when it comes to gasoline, so it can be right.
Speaker 1: It did. It was two thirty nine today when I
Speaker 1: put gas in my tank today, so it uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: We're we're doing pretty good here.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned his comments about Rob Reiner and
Speaker 1: we've only got a couple of minutes here, uh, doctor Roth.
Speaker 1: But I commented on that I didn't think it was
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was his finest hour. I didn't
Speaker 1: think it was you know that that it was his
Speaker 1: greatest thing. But overall I thought it was fair. I
Speaker 1: thought it was it was Trump. It was Trump being
Speaker 1: true to himself. And Rob Reiner has a history of
Speaker 1: saying some of the he he Rob Ronner said he
Speaker 1: hates Trump, he called he's called him a fascist, He's
Speaker 1: called him a Nazi, talked about how he wanted to
Speaker 1: destroy them other so Trump is is no fan of
Speaker 1: Rob Reiner, and and he said so and so just
Speaker 1: because I mean, and it look that the death is horrible.
Speaker 1: I disagree with Rob Reiner in all sorts of ways,
Speaker 1: but I mean, God, I mean, God bless him. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's no way anything like that should ever happen. But
Speaker 1: I think when you can compare some of the stuff
Speaker 1: that came out after the Charlie Kirk assassination and things
Speaker 1: like that, I think that statement was really was really
Speaker 1: pretty tame, and it was Trump being Trump.
Speaker 4: And Rob, would you say, Dan, I was discussing this
Speaker 4: with my wife and she said, what I believe she said,
Speaker 4: that's why people vote for him. He says what people think.
Speaker 4: But I'm not allowed to say that.
Speaker 5: A lot of.
Speaker 4: People feel the way you about the things that Rob
Speaker 4: Ryner has expressed and anyway prompt of the package like
Speaker 4: most other people in life. And he has his super virtues,
Speaker 4: and he has his questionable liabilities, and you have to
Speaker 4: take him as a package. And it's a mistake if
Speaker 4: you land on one particular aspect to negate him. Just
Speaker 4: like you with any other person in life, people are
Speaker 4: a complete package. We're complicated creatures. So I think many
Speaker 4: people feel I heard Luke Gingrich's comments on Fox News
Speaker 4: about the talk. He thought it was one of the
Speaker 4: best presidential addresses he had heard, and he thought only
Speaker 4: in future years, well, people will actually appreciate what he said,
Speaker 4: particularly with the tariffs. They have to play out.
Speaker 1: They have to play out. Yeah, no, no, I agree,
Speaker 1: and the and the I thought the the idea of
Speaker 1: giving one thousand, seven hundred and seventy six dollars to
Speaker 1: members of the armed services was a great move as well.
Speaker 1: But doctor Roth, before I let you go, I want
Speaker 1: to give you an assignment, Okay, I want to give
Speaker 1: you an assignment. I saw yesterday where a documentary about
Speaker 1: about Donald Trump's wife is going to come out, Okay,
Speaker 1: and uh and and I want you to watch that,
Speaker 1: and I want and then I want to discuss that
Speaker 1: after you watch it. So that's gonna co. I don't
Speaker 1: know it's coming out. I think maybe right after the holiday.
Speaker 4: I think it's coming out in January.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in January. So I want you to watch that
Speaker 1: because I want to know how much of an influence
Speaker 1: she is on the White House and how much of
Speaker 1: an influence she is on a regular basis on Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be fascinating to see this,
Speaker 1: this documentary. So I want you to watch that, and
Speaker 1: then we will set up a time for us to
Speaker 1: talk about it here on the radio. But for now,
Speaker 1: doctor Roth, we've got to run. I always appreciate the time.
Speaker 1: I love having you on. I could listen to you
Speaker 1: talk all night. So thank you so much for the time,
Speaker 1: and I certainly look forward to the next time we
Speaker 1: get a chance to talk again.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Dan. I'm a happy New Year to you
Speaker 4: and your listeners.
Speaker 1: Thank you, doctor Sheldon Roth. All the best to you
Speaker 1: and your family, sir. Thank you so much. I just
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is about that guy. I
Speaker 1: could just listen to him talk all night. Ten fifty six,
Speaker 1: We've got to get to a break on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 1: I'm back on the Big One, seven hundred WLW eleven
Speaker 1: O seven. This is the Thursday night edition of the
Speaker 1: Midweek Crisis. I'm Dan Carroll. Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: being here. I I'm always glad to be here. Joe
Speaker 1: Waddell is running the big board in the seven hundred
Speaker 1: WLW command center. Joe, let's go ahead and open the
Speaker 1: phone lines five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand
Speaker 1: and one, eight hundreds, the Big One, and a lot
Speaker 1: of different things I want to touch on here. But
Speaker 1: I earlier in the show tonight, we were supposed to
Speaker 1: speak with my buddy Joe Hoft, and we were not
Speaker 1: able to make contact with him. So I hope everything's
Speaker 1: all right with him. But one of the things that
Speaker 1: Joe and I talked about initially, and the reason I
Speaker 1: had him on as a guest, is because he was
Speaker 1: there was no one who was more on top of
Speaker 1: the election fraud of twenty twenty than he was. He
Speaker 1: wrote three different books about it, so he knows this
Speaker 1: inside and out. And I mean, he knows what happened
Speaker 1: in Wisconsin, he knows what happened in Michigan, he knows
Speaker 1: what happened in Arizona, he knows what happened in the
Speaker 1: he knows what happened in Georgia, he knows what happened
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. And as I was getting ready for the
Speaker 1: show today, I found this piece in the Federalist, and
Speaker 1: it's talking about what happened in Fulton County. Fulton County, Georgia,
Speaker 1: and in Fulton County, Georgia. They have admitted that approximately
Speaker 1: three hundred and fifteen thousand early votes from the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty election were illegally certified, but were nonetheless still included
Speaker 1: in the final results of that election. The admission came
Speaker 1: during a hearing last week before the Georgia State Election Board,
Speaker 1: stepping from a challenge filed by David Cross, a local
Speaker 1: election integrity activist. He filed a challenge with the state
Speaker 1: Election Board back in March of twenty two, alleging the
Speaker 1: Fulton County violated a Georgia statute in handling of advanced
Speaker 1: voting ahead of the November twenty twenty election, counting hundreds
Speaker 1: of thousands of votes even though polling workers failed to
Speaker 1: sign off on vote tabulation tapes critical to the certification process,
Speaker 1: and now Fulton County has admitted to it. And Brumbaugh,
Speaker 1: an attorney for Fulton County, told the told the board
Speaker 1: and the hearing that while she has not seen the
Speaker 1: tapes herself, the county does not dispute that the tapes
Speaker 1: were not signed. It was a violation of the rule.
Speaker 1: Since twenty twenty, we have new leadership and a new
Speaker 1: building and a new board and a new standard. Since then,
Speaker 1: the training has been enhanced, but we don't dispute the
Speaker 1: allegations from the twenty twenty election. Georgia law requires that
Speaker 1: election officials have each ballot scanner print these closing tapes
Speaker 1: at the end of each voting day. Poll workers must
Speaker 1: sign these tapes or include a documented reason for refusal.
Speaker 1: Voting laws require poll workers to begin each day of
Speaker 1: voting by printing and signing a zero tape showing that
Speaker 1: the voting machines are starting at zero votes. If there's
Speaker 1: no record of whether the tabulator was set at zero
Speaker 1: at the start of the polling, there is no way
Speaker 1: of telling whether ballots from a previous election or ballots
Speaker 1: from a test run were left on the memory card
Speaker 1: and might later be counted. Notably, this happened in Montana,
Speaker 1: where officials discovered more votes than were cast and believe
Speaker 1: the votes were left over sample data that had not
Speaker 1: been cleared. So these machines that count the votes and
Speaker 1: do all this stuff, it just seems to me they're
Speaker 1: unnecessarily complicated, and you've got to jump through so many hoops,
Speaker 1: and then the more moving parts you've got going on
Speaker 1: to my way of thinking, the easier it is to
Speaker 1: get in there and fiddle around with it. And so
Speaker 1: Joe Hoff has been one of the very rare individuals
Speaker 1: who looked at the twenty twenty election, saw the irregularities,
Speaker 1: saw the fraud, and spoke out about it, and continues
Speaker 1: to speak out about it. And now one by one
Speaker 1: it's all coming to light that there was so much
Speaker 1: fraudulent voting going on in the twenty twenty election, and
Speaker 1: that you will you will never convince me that Joe
Speaker 1: Biden got eighty one million votes and beat Trump in
Speaker 1: that election. And how we looking now, how are you
Speaker 1: enjoying this Trump compared to the Trump you might have
Speaker 1: had in twenty twenty if you wouldn't have screwed around
Speaker 1: with that election, who knows how different things would be,
Speaker 1: How different would things be? There was an update on
Speaker 1: the Minnesota fraud as it relates to the Somalian community
Speaker 1: there in Minneapolis, and it's getting so bad now even
Speaker 1: the Associated Press had to do a story on this,
Speaker 1: and the Assodio Associated Press writes a half or more
Speaker 1: of the roughly eighteen billion dollars in federal funds that
Speaker 1: supported fourteen Minnesota run programs since twenty eighteen may have
Speaker 1: been stolen. Okay, half or more of eighteen billion in
Speaker 1: fourteen different Minnesota run programs may have been stolen. That's
Speaker 1: nine billion dollars. First Assistant US Attorney Joe Thompson talked
Speaker 1: about the scale of the fraud, and we've got a
Speaker 1: SoundBite of him, and I want to play that. Now
Speaker 1: here's a US attorney. Oh you know what I don't
Speaker 1: This is a different scam. Wait a second, Wait a second,
Speaker 1: wait a second. Oh yeah, Matt, that's a different one. No,
Speaker 1: I don't have the sound from this one, but this
Speaker 1: US attorney Joe Thompson said the scale of the fraud
Speaker 1: puts services at risk for people who need them, and
Speaker 1: including adults leaving addiction treatment centers who need help finding
Speaker 1: a stable place to live, children with autism, children who
Speaker 1: really have autism, not the fake autism that was part
Speaker 1: of this scam. So you had the feeding the hungry scam,
Speaker 1: you had the autism scam, and you had the finding
Speaker 1: homes for people with addiction and people at risk and
Speaker 1: the elderly and all that sort of thing. Prosecutors typically
Speaker 1: see fraud manifest as providers over billing. Thompson said during
Speaker 1: a news conference in Minneapolis that companies have been created
Speaker 1: to provide zero services, whilst of many claims to medicate
Speaker 1: and pocketing federal funds for international travel, luxury vehicles, lavish lifestyles,
Speaker 1: and we know there's a strong likelihood that some of
Speaker 1: that money went to back to Somalia and while wind
Speaker 1: up supporting a terrorist organization, Boko Haram. Investigators new findings
Speaker 1: may bolster Donald Trump and his claims that Minnesota is
Speaker 1: a quote hub of fraudulent any laundering activity under Governor
Speaker 1: Tim Walls, who was the Democrat vice presidential nominee in
Speaker 1: last year's election. I mean, think about that, if Tim
Speaker 1: Walls was the vice president right now, would we be
Speaker 1: hearing about any of this? And Kamala Harris is out
Speaker 1: there on her book tour talking about how she's laying
Speaker 1: the groundwork for another presidential run, how great she was
Speaker 1: as vice president, how qualified she is to be the
Speaker 1: president of the United States. And she goes in and
Speaker 1: she goes on all these friendly interviews. Do you think
Speaker 1: one person's going to say, hey, well look at what
Speaker 1: Tim for look at with Tim Walls, jazz hands, let
Speaker 1: go on right under his nose. The AP article goes
Speaker 1: on to talk about Trump, how he's capitalized on fraud cases,
Speaker 1: the target the Somalia dysporia in Minnesota, the largest Somali
Speaker 1: population in the US. Eighty two of ninety two defendants
Speaker 1: and the child nutrition, housing services, and autism program scheme
Speaker 1: are Somali. But you know, it's not right to call it.
Speaker 1: It's not right to call it out and say that
Speaker 1: it's the Somalian community involved in this. That's really it's
Speaker 1: just unfair. Eighty two of ninety two defendants are in
Speaker 1: the Somali community. See Tim Wallas said we will not
Speaker 1: tolerate fraud. That's funny. Let's see The announcement Thursday follows
Speaker 1: years of investigation that began with the three hundred million
Speaker 1: Feeding Our Future scheme, for which fifty seven defendants have
Speaker 1: been victed. Prosecutor said Feeding our Future nonprofit was at
Speaker 1: the center of the country's largest COVID nineteen related fraud scam,
Speaker 1: roughly two dozen or so. Feeding our Future defendants for
Speaker 1: getting money from autism clinics. That's how we learned about
Speaker 1: the autism fraud. I mean, think of me. It's absolutely amazing,
Speaker 1: all connected. But this prosecutor was out there talking today,
Speaker 1: and that's my bet. I thought i'd cut up his
Speaker 1: sound bite and put it on here, But he talked.
Speaker 1: He said, this is He says, this is not a
Speaker 1: handful of bad actors. It's a staggering, industrial scale fraud.
Speaker 1: That is swamps Minnesota. Let's see. And he says fourteen
Speaker 1: flag programs. Found those programs a cost Medicaid eighteen billions.
Speaker 1: It's twenty eighteen, including more than three and a half
Speaker 1: billion in twenty twenty four alone. Let's see. And so
Speaker 1: they all the details of all these different people out there.
Speaker 1: But I mean, it just keeps getting huge, going bigger
Speaker 1: and bigger and bigger, and then we have this. We
Speaker 1: know what that SNAP is, the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance program,
Speaker 1: and so there was a it's not in Minnesota. Hold on,
Speaker 1: I think it's in Boston. Hold on, hold on, hold on?
Speaker 1: What did I do with that? Let me see, Yeah,
Speaker 1: two Haitian migrants. Federal prosecutors charged two Hatian migrants in
Speaker 1: Massachusetts with a seven million dollar scam that was getting
Speaker 1: money out of the out of SNAP. And federal prosecutors
Speaker 1: unsealed a major fraud indictment wednesday, charging two Haitian immigrants
Speaker 1: of operating a seven million dollar supplemental nutrition assistance program.
Speaker 1: It's a benefit tracking scheme out of two small retail
Speaker 1: storefronts in Boston's at Tapping neighborhood. And of course that
Speaker 1: may or of Boston is a real winner. Total lib
Speaker 1: total radical leftist, totally hates Trump, all in favor of
Speaker 1: illegal aliens hanging out in Boston. And you want to
Speaker 1: see the pictures of these so called grocery stores, I
Speaker 1: mean they it. The one is smaller, they call it
Speaker 1: a grocery store. It's smaller than the room I'm sitting
Speaker 1: in right now. And that that is, that is not
Speaker 1: a joke. That is no lie. And it looks it's
Speaker 1: it's filthy, it looks disease ridden. There there's open conas
Speaker 1: of stuff. I really don't see anything that you could
Speaker 1: call groceries in there. But they said this was a
Speaker 1: grocery store.
Speaker 5: And uh.
Speaker 1: And they ran seven million dollars with a fraud through
Speaker 1: this grocery store. And this is the US attorney talking
Speaker 1: about this, and she was pretty good on this. Let's
Speaker 1: hear cut number two. This is on the Snap grocery
Speaker 1: store scam fail.
Speaker 9: Bonner and Saul at least may for large scale Snap
Speaker 9: benefit trafficking, a scheme that turned a program designed to
Speaker 9: feed families into a multi million dollar criminal enterprise. Stap
Speaker 9: benefits are also known as food stamps. The defendants are
Speaker 9: charged with one count of food stamp fraud. As allegend
Speaker 9: in the charging documents, these men abuse one of the
Speaker 9: government's most critical safety net programs for their own financial gain.
Speaker 7: This is a tax.
Speaker 9: This is taxpayer money meant to keep people from going hungry.
Speaker 7: These defendants decided to take it for themselves.
Speaker 9: These defendants exchanged SNAP benefits for cash, which they pocketed.
Speaker 7: Bonner rational national.
Speaker 9: Naturalized US citizen, from Haiti owned the Jessuela Variety store.
Speaker 9: At least may a lawful permanent resident, also from Haiti
Speaker 9: owned the Saoul Mache mix A store. These two businesses
Speaker 9: were co located within a single storefront in Boston.
Speaker 7: To be certain, these were not supermarkets. They were not
Speaker 7: full service groceries.
Speaker 9: It would be a huge stretch to even call them
Speaker 9: convenience stores. In fact, the only thing convenient about these
Speaker 9: stores was how easy it was to commit snap benefit fraud.
Speaker 7: To put this in perspective, the Jusuela Variety.
Speaker 9: Store is less than one hundred and fifty square feet
Speaker 9: in size, smaller than some bathrooms. The Saoul Mache mix
Speaker 9: A store was approximately five hundred square feet in space.
Speaker 9: By contrast, a supermarket can be twenty thousand to sixty
Speaker 9: thousand square feet.
Speaker 7: In size, have a dozen or more.
Speaker 9: Registers, and employ numerous employees. Both a Jsuela Variety and
Speaker 9: sal Mache mix A stores had one register, no carriages,
Speaker 9: no hand baskets, and very little food for sale. One
Speaker 9: legitimate supermarket in the same area as these stores Redeems
Speaker 9: approximately eighty thousand dollars in snap benefits per month over
Speaker 9: the last twenty months. The Jusuela Variety store was redeeming
Speaker 9: between three and six times that amount monthly, with nowhere
Speaker 9: near the space, inventory, customers, or infrastructure to support it.
Speaker 9: The sal Mache mix A store redeemed over one hundred
Speaker 9: twenty thousand dollars in Snap benefits in the last six months.
Speaker 9: Simply put, there is no plausible way SNAP eligible.
Speaker 7: Food could have been purchased from these stores for this long.
Speaker 9: Yet these two stores are alleged to have illicitly trafficked
Speaker 9: nearly seven million dollars in Snap benefits.
Speaker 7: The fraud was shocking and glaring.
Speaker 1: So there you go. And I mean, and you want
Speaker 1: to say that. The pictures of these stores, they're out
Speaker 1: there on the internet. You can look them up if
Speaker 1: you want. This one dude bon Air allegedly applied for
Speaker 1: Snap benefits for himself, claiming he had zero income despite
Speaker 1: owning a business raking in hundreds of thousands of dollars
Speaker 1: a month in Snap redemptions. Investigators say he falsely claimed
Speaker 1: no income other than Social Security, collected over ten eight
Speaker 1: hundred dollars in Snap benefits. Every single Snap transaction on
Speaker 1: his personal EBT card was conducted at his own store.
Speaker 1: The other dude allegedly ran a similar operation out of
Speaker 1: a slightly larger but still minuscule store about five hundred
Speaker 1: square feet, which is probably smaller than your garage if
Speaker 1: you have a garage at home, I mean thing you
Speaker 1: think about that, Could you run a grocery store out
Speaker 1: of your garage? I don't know. Despite minimal inventory un
Speaker 1: limited eligible food items, the store reportedly trafficked over one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty one thousand dollars of SNAP benefits in
Speaker 1: just a few months it opened to twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm very industrious. Of these two, one dude
Speaker 1: is like seventy something years old, the other dude's seventy four,
Speaker 1: and the other dude's twenty one. So this guy was
Speaker 1: learning from his mentor and how to rip off the government.
Speaker 1: So then good work by those US attorneys. Seven million
Speaker 1: dollars in Snap from the from the Boston area, another
Speaker 1: liberal Democrat, and the corruption just goes on eleven twenty
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