WEBVTT - 12-18-25 Midweek Crisis with Dan Carroll

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<v Speaker 1>W another another three hours of live radio coming your way,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Thursday night edition of the Midweek Crisis. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Carroll, Joe Waddell running the Big Board in the

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred WIW command center. No guests the first hour,

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<v Speaker 1>so if you want to jump on board five one, three, nine, seven,

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundred, the big One. I've got Fox News on

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<v Speaker 1>over to my left, and their police are in Salem,

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<v Speaker 1>New Hampshire, and they have been looking in a in

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<v Speaker 1>a storage unit, you know, they're They're at one of

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<v Speaker 1>those storage places. And apparently Fox News is reporting that

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<v Speaker 1>they've got a report that says the suspected shooter at

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<v Speaker 1>Brown University has been found dead inside a storage unit

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<v Speaker 1>there in Salem, New Hampshire. So there we are awaiting

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<v Speaker 1>another news conference from Providence, Rhode Island, the police department there,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll find out what the latest developments on that is.

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<v Speaker 1>What else do we got tonight? A couple of guests

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<v Speaker 1>in the in the ten o'clock hour, My buddy Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Hoft is going to be here. This is my last

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<v Speaker 1>nighttime show for twenty twenty five. Next week and the

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<v Speaker 1>week after that, I'll be doing afternoon shows filling in

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<v Speaker 1>for Eddie and Rocky all next week and the week

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<v Speaker 1>after that leading up to New Year. So it's my

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<v Speaker 1>last nighttime show. Joe Hoft is one of my great

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<v Speaker 1>guests that I have that I have on this show

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<v Speaker 1>on a recurring basis, and it's gonna be great to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to him. And then my buddy doctor Sheldon Roth.

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<v Speaker 1>Haven't spoken to him in a while, and he wrote

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<v Speaker 1>a book about Trump, about Trump's Beautiful Mind. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was listening to Chuck Schumer earlier today Chuck Schumer felt

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<v Speaker 1>compelled to go to the floor of the Senate and

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<v Speaker 1>speak on Trump and psychoanalyzed Trump, and we'll compare Chuck

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<v Speaker 1>Schumer's analysis of Trump and his mental state compared to

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Sheldon Roth. So I say, I think that that'll

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<v Speaker 1>be interesting. In the meantime, I want to follow up

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<v Speaker 1>on the last couple of days ever since the murder

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<v Speaker 1>of Rob Reiner in California, and that was terrible news

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<v Speaker 1>when that broke over the weekend. I considered Rob Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>to be a very talented individual. I've watched his movies

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<v Speaker 1>over the years, especially Princess Bride, and I mean there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's his ability to direct and the way he could

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<v Speaker 1>communicate a story and a message just the top knives.

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<v Speaker 1>The talent is undeniable, and so I was horrified learning

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<v Speaker 1>the details of what happened to him and his wife.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that is an absolutely tragic circumstance. If what

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<v Speaker 1>is alleged to have happened with his son stabbing them

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<v Speaker 1>to death, it's a terrible thing. And one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that happened over the weekend was that Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>put out a statement and the first thing he said

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<v Speaker 1>it was very sad. But Donald Trump was no fan

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<v Speaker 1>of Rob Reiner. I disagreed in the most profound ways

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<v Speaker 1>possible with Rob Reiner when it came to political issues,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was quite prolific on his social media of

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<v Speaker 1>putting stuff out that was anti Trump and all the rest.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's and he's has been one of the loudest

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<v Speaker 1>voices when it comes to saying bad things about Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it seemed to me that it would not

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<v Speaker 1>be unexpected that Trump would not deviate from who he

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<v Speaker 1>is as a person to go out and just and

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<v Speaker 1>say nice things about Rob Reiner. And so Trump put

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<v Speaker 1>a statement out there that a lot of people didn't

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<v Speaker 1>care for, They didn't like it. I wasn't particularly and

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<v Speaker 1>crazy about it. Here's what I wrote on my x

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<v Speaker 1>feet about the about the statement that Trump put out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wrote this, Trump was staying true to who

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<v Speaker 1>he is, and some may find that distasteful. I'd prefer

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<v Speaker 1>it if his statement on Reiner was more artful crafted,

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<v Speaker 1>but overall it's fairly tame compared to statements that have

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<v Speaker 1>come from the left in similar circumstances. And I stand

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<v Speaker 1>by that. When I wrote that, I was reminded of

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<v Speaker 1>some of just just some of the most horrible statements,

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<v Speaker 1>just some of some of the most terrible things imaginable

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<v Speaker 1>that were put out there. And when we saw the

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<v Speaker 1>assassination of Charlie Kirk, and this would not be the

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<v Speaker 1>first time that we have had just some of the

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<v Speaker 1>worst statements imaginable after someone who was well known on

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<v Speaker 1>the right passes away, and the absolute joy that is

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<v Speaker 1>expressed by some of the people who put those statements out.

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<v Speaker 1>So there were some people who saw that that I

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<v Speaker 1>posted that on my x feed over the weekend, and

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<v Speaker 1>they tried to take me in a task for that,

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<v Speaker 1>saying that you know, I don't know what I'm talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>and that you know you did. Didn't your mom ever

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<v Speaker 1>tell you not to? You know, you can't see anything nice,

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<v Speaker 1>all that kind of stuff. And so I'm getting ready

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<v Speaker 1>for the show today and I see that Larry Elder,

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<v Speaker 1>who was a great talk show host in his own right,

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<v Speaker 1>he wrote a piece about Rob Reiner and as I said,

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump was no fan of Rob Reiner. And I remember,

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<v Speaker 1>oh gosh, it was had to be six seven years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I did almost almost an entire show about something that

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Reiner wrote that was just just really terrible, and

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<v Speaker 1>I spent a lot of time. It was a it

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<v Speaker 1>was a Saturday show, but it was just some of

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<v Speaker 1>the some of the most terrible stuff, and I pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much dissected just about everything he had to say and

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<v Speaker 1>took issue with what he had to say. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just remembered that he could. He was perfectly capable of

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<v Speaker 1>saying horrible things in his own right. And so Larry

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<v Speaker 1>Elder wrote a piece about this, and he talks about

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump could have taken the high ground rather than

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<v Speaker 1>excoriating Rob Reiner. The actor, director, producer found stab to

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<v Speaker 1>death along with his wife. Reiner's son, Nick, has been

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<v Speaker 1>arrested in connection with the murders. Trump doubled down in

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<v Speaker 1>a true social post, telling reporters, I think he hurt

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<v Speaker 1>himself career wise. He became like a deranged person Trump

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<v Speaker 1>derangement syndrome. So I was not a fan of Rob

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<v Speaker 1>Ryder at all in any way, shape or form. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought he was very bad for our country. So why

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<v Speaker 1>would you expect, knowing what you know about Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>for him to react any other way. If someone punches him,

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<v Speaker 1>he punches back harder. And there are certain things I

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<v Speaker 1>think that he lets go and doesn't hold on to.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think he was ever friends with Rob Reiner.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Yner ever reached out to him. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think they certainly didn't reach out to each other.

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<v Speaker 1>But he just didn't care for and he wasn't going

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<v Speaker 1>to change that, even though he was murdered in his

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<v Speaker 1>own home. And Larry Elder goes on. Criticism about Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>harsh remarks even came from Trump supporters, But consider Rob

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<v Speaker 1>Reiner's actions against and statements about candidate and President Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go. Reiner, months after Trump won the presidency

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty sixteen, co founded the Nonpartisan Committee to Investigate Russia.

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<v Speaker 1>Its mission said Reiner was to serve as a one

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<v Speaker 1>stop shop where people can come and be made aware

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<v Speaker 1>of what the breaking news stories are today, the various investigations,

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<v Speaker 1>what stages they are in, but also to understand the

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<v Speaker 1>history and what the Soviet Union and now Russia has

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<v Speaker 1>been trying to do for many, many years. My concern

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<v Speaker 1>is people don't understand the gravity of what they were

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<v Speaker 1>able to do. This committee's advisory board includes former Director

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<v Speaker 1>of National Intelligence James Clapper, We've all heard that name before,

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<v Speaker 1>former Director of the CIA, Michael Hayden, former Secretary of Defense,

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<v Speaker 1>director of the CIA, and former White House Chief of

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<v Speaker 1>Staff Leon Pennetta. Former acting Director of the CIA Michael Morrell.

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<v Speaker 1>They were among the fifty one senior former intelligence officials

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<v Speaker 1>who signed the letter claiming the Hunter Biden laptop story

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<v Speaker 1>has all the classic gear marks of a Russian information operation,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we know how that turned out, do

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<v Speaker 1>we not. So Rob Reiner had what he believed to

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<v Speaker 1>be some very heavy hitters on this committee to keep

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<v Speaker 1>people up to date on what was happening with the Trumpster.

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<v Speaker 1>The Trump Russian collusion narratives has been debunked. The Russians

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<v Speaker 1>failed to change a single vote tally as to the

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<v Speaker 1>Russian interfere to help Trump narrative. Director of National Intelligence

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<v Speaker 1>Tulsea Gabbert stated the President Obama and his national security

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<v Speaker 1>Cabinet members manufactured and politicized intelligence to lay the groundwork

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<v Speaker 1>for what was essentially a year's long coup against President Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Hunter Biden laptop story was not only true,

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<v Speaker 1>but it also revealed President Joe Biden clearly lied when

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<v Speaker 1>he denied knowing anything about his son's overseas business dealers.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty seventeen, in an interview with Variety, Runn described

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<v Speaker 1>Trump as quote mentally unfit to serve as commander in

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<v Speaker 1>chief and called him the single most unqualified human being

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<v Speaker 1>to ever assume the presidency of the United States. In

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<v Speaker 1>another interview, Reiner said, I'm going to tell you the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a complete and utter lying buffoon. He's a fraud.

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<v Speaker 1>He lies, he cheats people. Everything that comes out of

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<v Speaker 1>his mouth is virtually a lie. He's a con man,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you look at what he's done with his

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<v Speaker 1>career and how he's tricked people into things, it's abhorrent.

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<v Speaker 1>I never liked George W. Bush his policies, but I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't hate the guy. I hate this man, and Reiner

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<v Speaker 1>has been a continuous one stop shop for anti Trump insults.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only does he not understand this is a Hiner

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<v Speaker 1>quote here. Not only does he not understand how government works,

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<v Speaker 1>he has no interest and trying to find out how

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<v Speaker 1>it works. You have one candidate Trump who actually tells

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<v Speaker 1>you he's going to govern like an authoritarian. These are

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<v Speaker 1>again Reiner quotes. Do we want fascism or do we

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<v Speaker 1>want to continue the two hundred and forty eight years

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<v Speaker 1>of self rule? Do we want to continue democracy or

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<v Speaker 1>do we want to slip into fascism. He wants to

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<v Speaker 1>destroy the constitution, go after his political enemies, and turn

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<v Speaker 1>America into an autocracy. We see autocracy making us move

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<v Speaker 1>around the world, and so if we crumble, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>danger that the democracy crumbles around the world. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>gotten to a very scary place in this country. Senator

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<v Speaker 1>John Kennedy of Louisiana struck the right tone when asked

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<v Speaker 1>about Trump's condemnation of Reiner. Kennedy says, a wise man

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<v Speaker 1>once said nothing. Why because he's a wise man, I

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<v Speaker 1>think President Trump should have said nothing. Well, we can

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<v Speaker 1>all agree on that man. It appears Reiner made no

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<v Speaker 1>public comment about the Butler, Pennsylvania assassination attempt against Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>but saying, as Trump did about Reiner, I'm not a

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<v Speaker 1>fan is a far cry from saying that he hates him.

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<v Speaker 1>As Reiner said about Trump, the question is whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>fair and reasonable for Trump to show grace to someone

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<v Speaker 1>who never offered the slightest bit of grace to him.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the writing of Larry Elder. So Rob Reiner

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<v Speaker 1>went out of his way to speak poorly of Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>to level false accusations against him, to go down the

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<v Speaker 1>fascist road, and inuation, go down the Hitler road. And

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<v Speaker 1>he said, I mean his own words, that he hates him.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when he's murdered in his own home, unfortunately tragically,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump all of a sudden is supposed to bend over

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<v Speaker 1>backwards and say nice things. I know it's ingrained in

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of us, and including myself, that you do

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<v Speaker 1>not speak ill of the dead, and I I tend

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<v Speaker 1>to agree with that. I would have rather that Trump

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<v Speaker 1>put out no statement at all compared to the one

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<v Speaker 1>that he did. But when you actually look at what

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<v Speaker 1>he said, it's fairly tame, fairly simply pointing out some

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<v Speaker 1>of the facts Trump staying true and really in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the in the long run, aren't we better off

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<v Speaker 1>having leadership, especially political leadership, really any kind of leadership,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's private business, whether it's your own family, what,

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<v Speaker 1>any kind of leadership staying true to who they are,

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<v Speaker 1>being the person they are, instead of changing as the

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<v Speaker 1>wind blows to accommodate certain people or certain ideas or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever the fashion of the day. Is better off having

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<v Speaker 1>someone who's true to themselves, who's true to the people

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<v Speaker 1>that they're speaking to. So fine, you know you want

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<v Speaker 1>to take me to task for what I said about

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's comment, I mean, you're you are more than welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to and you're more than well welcome to pick up

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<v Speaker 1>the phone and call me five one, three, seven, four

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<v Speaker 1>nine seven eight hundred, the Big One. I'll be here

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<v Speaker 1>till midnight tonight if you would like to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I haven't spoken about it until now, so I

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to get that out of the way, and

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<v Speaker 1>I got tons of other stuff I want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about tonight as well, so we will do that as

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<v Speaker 1>we roll on till midnight tonight. It is the Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>night edition of the midweek Crisis Dan Carroll till midnight

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<v Speaker 1>tonight on seven hundred WLW seven hundred WLW nine thirty eight. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Wattell, so can we find any Christmas music to

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<v Speaker 1>bump in with? Do you have do you have access

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<v Speaker 1>to any any If do you have some right there?

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<v Speaker 1>Can we you know, start this breakover again if you

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<v Speaker 1>find find another selection? You know, maybe some Charlie Brown

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas music would be great. And you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know about you, and let me throw this question out there. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking about it. I'm just I'm not really feeling

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<v Speaker 1>the Christmas music this year. I mean, usually around this

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<v Speaker 1>time in the year, I got I've got a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of different Christmas CDs in my car and I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Carr was still I still played the CDs in

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<v Speaker 1>my car, I got CD player, and uh, just not,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just just not into it this year.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm usually saying some of the FM stations they got

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<v Speaker 1>all Christmas music all the time, but not so far

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<v Speaker 1>this year, I haven't done that. Have you found a

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas election yet? Joe? What we lay something on me?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I I don't know what you have access

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<v Speaker 1>to in there if you have, if you have something

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<v Speaker 1>a little christmasy, a little seasonal, you know, lift the

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<v Speaker 1>mood a little bit. I don't know what that was

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<v Speaker 1>he bumped in with there, but it didn't sound very

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas e to me. No, nothing, All right, let's not

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<v Speaker 1>worry about it. All right, Let's say Greg from Dayton

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<v Speaker 1>is on the line and we'll see what is on

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<v Speaker 1>Greg's minds. To Greg, you're on seven hundred w W

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<v Speaker 1>you guys get a ton of getting a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>rain up there at dating tonight?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, you know, there's nothing that will throw you

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<v Speaker 3>out of the Christmas smooth then to run be driving

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<v Speaker 3>through torrential rain and seeing the forty mile an hour

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<v Speaker 3>wind blowing Santa Reindeer and everything else all over the roads.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking, what if it was still cold like

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<v Speaker 1>it was last week, whether this be like a blizzard tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't it?

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<v Speaker 3>Well believe we wouldn't be. We wouldn't be moving to

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<v Speaker 3>Eastern It'd be terrible. So I don't I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to make light of the whole Rob Reiner situation. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>obviously a tragedy. You never, no matter what side of

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<v Speaker 3>the fence or the creek or whatever. You don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to see anything happen like this. That being said, I

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<v Speaker 3>just I wondered in my mind, how long will it

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<v Speaker 3>take for somebody with the AI capability to start showing

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<v Speaker 3>the Archie Bunker clips of Trump's head on Archie Bunker

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<v Speaker 3>dealing with meathead.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good question. I would not be surprised if

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<v Speaker 1>they if they exist already, I have not seen one yet.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't either, but you know, it's coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably it'll probably be out there. I mean, everything else

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<v Speaker 1>along those kind of lines is out there, So I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen it yet, but I'll keep an eye out

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<v Speaker 1>for it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've seen, you know too obvious sayings that that

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<v Speaker 3>we can apply to this, you know from the media.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, don't don't poke the bear. They know what

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<v Speaker 3>they're doing. They know how to get Trump going. Uh

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<v Speaker 3>and if you don't want to hear it, then don't ask.

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<v Speaker 4>But they do.

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<v Speaker 3>They they this is what motivates them, you know, to

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<v Speaker 3>to get him going. And secondly, for for Trump, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>stop taking the bait. There has to be some point

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<v Speaker 3>that that he can put put his emotions in neutral

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<v Speaker 3>or or whatever and just stay silent. That would tickle

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<v Speaker 3>me to death. I'm a Trump supporter, but there are

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<v Speaker 3>times when he walks to the podium that I cringe

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<v Speaker 3>because I think, what's he going to say?

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<v Speaker 5>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Man, My sense of it is is that he is

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<v Speaker 1>actually has been a bit more restrained this time around

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<v Speaker 1>than he was during his first term.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, you're exactly right. I'm one in that camp

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<v Speaker 3>has been able to harness him a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine Susie Wiles, his chief of staff, has

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<v Speaker 1>had something to do with that. And I just think

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<v Speaker 1>he's got overall, he's got better people around him. But

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<v Speaker 1>look at Trump. Trump, he is who he is. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what what is He's seventy eight years old, seventy nine

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<v Speaker 1>years old. He is not going he is not going

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<v Speaker 1>to change. And essentially, all I said was that this

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<v Speaker 1>is And look, there are a lot of people who

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<v Speaker 1>immediately came out and said this is wrong. He shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have said that. He you know, it was an apology. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I really I don't think any of that that is

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<v Speaker 1>Trump being it is. It is who he is, and

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<v Speaker 1>he might have been better off saying nothing at all,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's it's who he is and all and all

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<v Speaker 1>he said was he didn't think Rob Reiner was good

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<v Speaker 1>for the country, and he think Rob Rider had a

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<v Speaker 1>serious case of TVs, which if you look at what

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<v Speaker 1>he did, I mean, he was Rob Reiner. He came

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<v Speaker 1>out and he said he hated Trump, called him a fascist,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, all the other stuff, and just when just

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<v Speaker 1>went down that rabbit hole of repeating stuff and believing

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that said that simply wasn't true. But Greg, I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate the call tonight and the Merry Christmas shirt YouTube Christs.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, there you go. That's great. From dating. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go to West Union. We'll say I haven't talk to

0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:17.359
<v Speaker 1>Steve in West Union for a little while. Then we

0:22:17.440 --> 0:22:21.040
<v Speaker 1>got Bradley and Yellow Springs. Steve seven hundred, ww.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan, how are you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good, Steve. Good to hear your voice.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a I got a list, Okay, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to I want to just read it, okay, mare Win

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<v Speaker 2>and at the end I will get in a summary.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep it clean, Keep it clean.

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<v Speaker 2>This is one of the worst years of my entire life.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sixty four years old and this year has been

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely devastated. First, my wife is overcoming breast cats. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm disabled, veteran, so I'm kind of house down and

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<v Speaker 2>all that. All right, So we're getting there. Over that

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<v Speaker 2>December second, my favorite little girl, Don'gie Day, she died

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<v Speaker 2>and it's broke my heart. I can barely speak.

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<v Speaker 1>About it now. I had to put. I had to

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<v Speaker 1>put a couple of months ago, and it was it

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<v Speaker 1>was terrible. So I feel you there, brother.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor told me I wasn't allowed to have testosterone anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>and that kind of messes with my whole love life.

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<v Speaker 2>And I asked him why, and he said, putting testosterone

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<v Speaker 2>on an issue with your prostate is like putting an

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<v Speaker 2>ape palm on fire. So I've been going without testosterone

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<v Speaker 2>when my test ozone level is lower than a girl.

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<v Speaker 2>So I can't hardly move, oh man, until they figure

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<v Speaker 2>it out, and then maybe with a little luck, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>get it. My son has decided to divorce his wife

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<v Speaker 2>for ten years. They lived two blocks down the road.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy.

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<v Speaker 2>I moved here to help them succeed, and all I

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<v Speaker 2>did was get burned a little bit. I love my son.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a good kid. He's a firefighter. He's actually saved

0:24:24.840 --> 0:24:29.760
<v Speaker 2>brad Winstrop's family a couple of times. But Anyway, he's

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<v Speaker 2>a good kid. He found he's true and now we're

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<v Speaker 2>dealing with that. He spends most of his time in Harrison, Ohio,

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<v Speaker 2>wherever the hell that is, and she is down the

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<v Speaker 2>block from me. Now, I've got a few other things

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<v Speaker 2>that I don't want to, you know, go overboard.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say, we get to the point

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<v Speaker 1>of this, Steve, what's the point of all this?

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<v Speaker 4>Is?

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<v Speaker 5>IM better?

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<v Speaker 2>It's Christmas. I have a I have a good heart.

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<v Speaker 2>I've done the best I can. And everybody out there

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<v Speaker 2>with troubles, uh, sometimes your troubles aren't as big as

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<v Speaker 2>your troubles you think. And and if you just trust

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<v Speaker 2>in the true meaning of Christmas, it'll all be okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Steve. But that is ah, that is a good outlook.

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<v Speaker 1>I uh. I sympathize with you for your the hardships

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<v Speaker 1>that you've had this year. I wish you nothing but

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<v Speaker 1>the best. I thank you for your service. Gotta get better,

0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:48.520
<v Speaker 1>gotta get better. You gotta gotta gotta gotta keep gotta

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<v Speaker 1>keep looking up and Steve, uh, and we thank you

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<v Speaker 1>very much for that call. So Steve is having his difficulties,

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<v Speaker 1>but he is going to choose to look at the

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<v Speaker 1>at the re and for the season. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's a that's a good idea. Let's go to Yellow Springs.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is Bradley Bradley seven hundred w w Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>how you doing. I'm good. I'm good, Bradley? How are

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<v Speaker 1>you tonight?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm doing all right? Yeah, that was a hard one

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<v Speaker 6>to follow. I just want to wish that Steve gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, good vibes. I guess is like, I don't

0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:30.040
<v Speaker 6>really know what to say to that. That was a

0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:31.439
<v Speaker 6>hard one to come up on.

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<v Speaker 1>He's had He's had his share this year, so probably

0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:40.680
<v Speaker 1>more than his more than his share. So that's life.

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<v Speaker 1>Ain't always fair?

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<v Speaker 3>Brother?

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<v Speaker 6>You know the one thing I wanted to comment about

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<v Speaker 6>tonight and I've never called in, but I listen. Uh

0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:57.119
<v Speaker 6>is it? I know you have a video or audio

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<v Speaker 6>of things that he has said about Uh isn't it Trump?

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<v Speaker 6>But have you and I know your producer does has

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<v Speaker 6>the audio of what mister Reiner said when Charlie cook

0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:14.720
<v Speaker 6>Kirk was killed.

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<v Speaker 1>And how I don't think that. I don't I don't

0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:24.040
<v Speaker 1>recall making any any any statement or certainly not a

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:29.480
<v Speaker 1>negative statement about Charlie Klie.

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<v Speaker 6>Well when he was a siding and you made it

0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:36.119
<v Speaker 6>very positive and and I mean just heartfelt that you know,

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:37.879
<v Speaker 6>political violence is wrong.

0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 1>You're right, You're right, that's yeah. When Charlie Kirk was killed, Yes,

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Rob Ryder did say that he was I mean, he

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:48.760
<v Speaker 1>was being interviewed on the Peers Morgan Show. Okay, yeah,

0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:53.119
<v Speaker 1>he talked about you know, he's and what he said

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:56.920
<v Speaker 1>was paraphrasing here is that I don't care what side

0:27:56.920 --> 0:27:58.880
<v Speaker 1>of the political isol you're on. You know, this this

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:02.440
<v Speaker 1>sort of let's say it's wrong. He called he called

0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 1>it out. He said, he said it was wrong, and

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<v Speaker 1>uh he Uh. I think his words were very very

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<v Speaker 1>well taken at that point.

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<v Speaker 6>I agree, sir, But I just think that the way

0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:18.639
<v Speaker 6>the president handled the other side of it was a

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:23.879
<v Speaker 6>bit classless. Uh yeah, the level of the presidency. I

0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 6>don't believe you.

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:27.199
<v Speaker 1>Can say that it was it was not. It was

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:30.480
<v Speaker 1>not his best moment. But then again, he didn't come

0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 1>out and he did he didn't say that he hated

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Rob Reiner. He did, he didn't really speak ill of him.

0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:37.800
<v Speaker 1>He said he was not a Rob Reiner fan. And

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<v Speaker 1>then and that is simply the truth. And you know,

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 1>he said based on the things that Rob Reiner did

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:45.760
<v Speaker 1>during the course of his life, in the course of

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 1>trumpeting in the in the Oval office, and he said

0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 1>he didn't think Rober.

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<v Speaker 6>We all have a right to criticize the president and

0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:01.160
<v Speaker 6>it's not like illegal, pretty thing.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's fine. No, criticize the president all you want,

0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 1>but if you're gonna do it, at least try to

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:11.560
<v Speaker 1>be at least try to be factual in your criticism.

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<v Speaker 6>I can understand that.

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 3>And then look, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, talking about the Russian collusion, talking about being a fascist, comparing.

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<v Speaker 6>Those are words that people throw around. But I mean

0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:28.160
<v Speaker 6>he's like, he's so mad at just like the late

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:32.200
<v Speaker 6>night talk show hosts that literally just are throwing comedy

0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:36.960
<v Speaker 6>around about him, and it just drives him.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. I mean, one of the what's up do you find?

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<v Speaker 2>You?

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<v Speaker 5>Did you find.

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<v Speaker 6>On the President's Walk of you Gotta you Gotta he

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 6>wrote them himself and like you got you got a

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 6>bit of somebody. I don't understand the way you would

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<v Speaker 6>put it in bronze and the picture.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I saw those, I saw. I know what you're

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 1>talking about.

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<v Speaker 6>Actually, I meant to talk about you know, I just

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<v Speaker 6>want to make that Clayer to you man, I meant

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<v Speaker 6>to talk about those.

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<v Speaker 7>Wow.

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<v Speaker 6>What the heck?

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<v Speaker 1>But Bradley, I appreciate the phone call, and Merry Christmas.

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<v Speaker 6>To you, you too, brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Year all right, Happy New Year, Bradley and Yellow Spring. Now,

0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:28.840
<v Speaker 1>if you haven't heard about this. At the White House,

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<v Speaker 1>there are a series of presidential portraits and underneath those

0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 1>presidential portraits, Donald Trump has posted his own captions underneath

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:46.000
<v Speaker 1>those presidential portraits. And let me see I had that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me see if I can find this real quick,

0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 1>because I know I had it last night, but I

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:55.640
<v Speaker 1>ran out of time to talk about it. And he uh,

0:30:56.320 --> 0:31:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's got Wayne Allen Root to piece and

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 1>I've got that talking about the portrait of Obama, and

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<v Speaker 1>Wayne Allen Root says that Trump was not hard enough

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<v Speaker 1>on Obama. And then he and under one of the

0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:17.240
<v Speaker 1>portraits it you know, it talks about and and the

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 1>and the and the The captions that he put underneath

0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 1>are they look like these plaques you see on historical markers.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's it's really kind of you guy. If you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen him yet, you got to look him up.

0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:39.080
<v Speaker 1>You got to see him. Let's see. Yeah, So under

0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:41.960
<v Speaker 1>the picture of Joe Biden. I guess he you know,

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 1>he's still got the picture of the auto pen. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me see, I think he's still got the picture of

0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 1>the autopen for for Joe Biden. And here's what he wrote, uh,

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 1>and underneath it read sleepy. Joe Biden was by far

0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:01.360
<v Speaker 1>the worst president in a Mayora and history. Taking office

0:32:01.360 --> 0:32:03.520
<v Speaker 1>as a result of the most corrupt election ever seen

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States, Biden oversaw a series of unprecedented

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:11.920
<v Speaker 1>disasters that brought on nation to the brink of destruction.

0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:16.600
<v Speaker 1>His policies caused the highest inflation ever recorded, leading the

0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 1>US dollar to lose more than twenty percent of its

0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 1>value in four years. His Green News scam surrendered American

0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:26.520
<v Speaker 1>energy dominance, and by abolishing the Southern border, Biden let

0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 1>twenty one million people in from all over the world

0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 1>pour into the United States, including from prisons, jail's, mental institutions,

0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:37.680
<v Speaker 1>and insane asylums. His Afghanistan disaster was among the most

0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 1>humiliating events in American history and resulted in the murder

0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 1>of thirteen brave American service members, with many others gravely wounded.

0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:51.240
<v Speaker 1>Seeing Biden's devastating weakness, Russia invaded Ukraine and Hamas terrorists

0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 1>launched the heinous October seventh attack on Israel. Nicknamed both

0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Sleepy and Crooked, Joe, Biden was dominated by his radical

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:01.800
<v Speaker 1>left handlers. They and their allies in the fake news

0:33:01.880 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 1>media attempted to cover up his severe mental decline and

0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 1>is unprinted unprecedented use of the auto pen. Following is

0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:13.760
<v Speaker 1>humiliating debate loss to President Trump in the Big June

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 1>twenty four debate, he was forced to withdraw his campaign

0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 1>for re election in disgrace. Biden weaponized law enforcement against

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 1>his political opponent while also persecuting many other innocent people.

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:30.600
<v Speaker 1>He left office issuing blanket pardons to radical Democrat criminals

0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 1>and thugs, as well as members of the Biden crime family.

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 1>But despite it all, President Trump would get re elected

0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:43.000
<v Speaker 1>in a landslide and save America. And that's the caption

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:48.920
<v Speaker 1>that you'll find under the Biden auto pen portrait at

0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:52.480
<v Speaker 1>the Wall of Fame, next to the rose Guard and

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:57.240
<v Speaker 1>the other ones for a Clinton and who else I

0:33:57.280 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 1>think he's got Clinton, Reagan Bush equally entertaining nine to

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 1>fifty five. We got to get to a break news

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<v Speaker 1>coming up top of the on seven hundred WLW back

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:23.839
<v Speaker 1>on the Big One, seven hundred WLW, Dan Carroll till

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<v Speaker 1>midnight tonight the Thursday night edition on the Midway crisis

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 1>and UH the phone lines are open five one three

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<v Speaker 1>under the Big One, having trouble reaching our guests Joe Hoft,

0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Joe Hoft of the UH, formerly of the Gateway Pundit,

0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 1>now of Joe Hooff dot com. Guy does a great

0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:47.200
<v Speaker 1>job reporting the different stories. And I was gonna ask

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:52.960
<v Speaker 1>him about UH the UH. The Colorado Governor Tina peters

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 1>Don Donald Trump pardoned her last week. She went to

0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:02.719
<v Speaker 1>jail for pointing out some election misdeeds that she that

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:06.040
<v Speaker 1>she discovered. So we're going to try and reach Joe

0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:09.759
<v Speaker 1>Hoft and see if we can't. If we can't get

0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:11.400
<v Speaker 1>him on the show in the meantime, then let's go

0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:13.840
<v Speaker 1>to Florida. We'll say hey to Jeff, who's been on

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 1>hold for a little while. And Jeff, you're on seven

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:16.799
<v Speaker 1>hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, Dan, you're worth listening to, buddy. Thanks for taking

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<v Speaker 5>my call.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, well, thank you thanks for calling.

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<v Speaker 5>No problem. You're talking about all these bad things. Let's

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:34.719
<v Speaker 5>let's get real recent. Are you aware today that I

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:37.000
<v Speaker 5>don't know if it was the Senate or the House,

0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:42.720
<v Speaker 5>two hundred and thirty or two hundred and three Democrats

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:49.080
<v Speaker 5>voted against a bill that was passed, thank goodness, that

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:56.719
<v Speaker 5>will revoke Medicare Medicaid funding for butcher doctors that want

0:35:56.719 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 5>to cut some little kit up that's ten and eleven

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:02.799
<v Speaker 5>and twelve years old. Whatever that he or she may think,

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:07.360
<v Speaker 5>he's not what he or she is. What's your opinion

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:08.359
<v Speaker 5>about that, old bud.

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:10.719
<v Speaker 1>I've got it. I've got it here right in front

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 1>of me that it was. It was actually Marjorie. It

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:19.520
<v Speaker 1>was actually Marjorie Taylor Green who sponsored this bill, this bill,

0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:26.279
<v Speaker 1>and uh it's uh, she got one last victory. The

0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:30.160
<v Speaker 1>House voted Wednesday last night to pass Green's bill. It

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:35.920
<v Speaker 1>criminalizes child sex change procedures nationwide. And there were four

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:42.760
<v Speaker 1>House Republicans that voted against this bill, Henry Weller, Vincent

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:49.919
<v Speaker 1>Gonzalez of Texas, Don Davis of North Carolina. So you've

0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:52.399
<v Speaker 1>got well of those were those were the Democrats who

0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 1>actually supported, uh, this this bill by Green. Yeah, but

0:36:57.480 --> 0:37:01.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, the look, the whole thing about protecting children

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:05.319
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to these procedures, and not only that

0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:12.080
<v Speaker 1>but health and human services. Uh. But it was Robert

0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Kennedy today announced a series of proposed regulatory actions to

0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:21.360
<v Speaker 1>carry out Donald Trump's executive order directing Health and Human

0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Services to end the practice of sex rejecting procedures on kids.

0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:30.400
<v Speaker 1>So this whole notion, and you know, you've got the

0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:34.520
<v Speaker 1>American Academy of Pediatrics, and you've got all these influencers,

0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:40.279
<v Speaker 1>and you know, all these transtrans activists who call this

0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:46.480
<v Speaker 1>gender affirming care. And the previous yeah, the previous Undersecretary

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:49.680
<v Speaker 1>of Health and Human Services that we had, Rachel Levin,

0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:53.239
<v Speaker 1>and she had all been out of shape because her

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:55.720
<v Speaker 1>real name is you know, his real name is Richard.

0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:59.960
<v Speaker 1>And last week Trump put not Trump, but who's ever

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:03.759
<v Speaker 1>in charge of Kennedy the Health of Human Services. They

0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:09.080
<v Speaker 1>put Richard's Levin name underneath the portrait over there at

0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:12.480
<v Speaker 1>the over there at the agency. And so Levin got

0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:15.800
<v Speaker 1>all bent out of shape about it. And I reminded people,

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:20.320
<v Speaker 1>you know what Rachel Levin stood for. And Rachel Levin

0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:22.960
<v Speaker 1>went in front of the American people and said that

0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:27.480
<v Speaker 1>these surgeries are necessary, that they save lives, that kids needed.

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<v Speaker 5>A liar.

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:32.239
<v Speaker 1>Of course, she's a liar, and she's a she's a

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:33.440
<v Speaker 1>danger to kids.

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:38.200
<v Speaker 5>Okay, just hold on that old body. I've got a background.

0:38:38.280 --> 0:38:44.040
<v Speaker 5>I understand the effects of physiological and psychological trauma on people.

0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 5>I was well trained in the army. Okay, now you

0:38:47.880 --> 0:38:51.080
<v Speaker 5>can't tell me get somebody to look you in the

0:38:51.120 --> 0:38:56.400
<v Speaker 5>eye and go, oh yeah. A doctor cutting on a ten, eleven,

0:38:56.480 --> 0:39:00.440
<v Speaker 5>twelve year old kid that probably needs a psychia trists

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:07.600
<v Speaker 5>is not violating the Hippocratics. I mean, it's common sense

0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:10.560
<v Speaker 5>that the you know, the last thing you want to

0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:14.440
<v Speaker 5>do is open somebody up. Okay, a lot of things

0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:18.960
<v Speaker 5>can go wrong. You don't do invasive stuff unless it's

0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:24.600
<v Speaker 5>extremely necessary. I know that from watching surgeons and getting

0:39:24.640 --> 0:39:27.520
<v Speaker 5>cut on a lot. But my point is, how in

0:39:27.600 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 5>the world could any doctor look anything in the eye

0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:36.400
<v Speaker 5>when he's taking the Hippocratic oath, which is first do

0:39:36.760 --> 0:39:39.720
<v Speaker 5>no harm, and he's going to cut on a little kid.

0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:43.120
<v Speaker 5>That's the solution. That's a bunch of baloney. You know what,

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:45.200
<v Speaker 5>thought I was pretty good. I didn't curse.

0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:48.400
<v Speaker 1>I've talked about this subject for years now, and I

0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:53.000
<v Speaker 1>have from the very beginning. I asked myself the same question,

0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:57.279
<v Speaker 1>How can anyone who calls himself a doctor actually go

0:39:57.400 --> 0:40:00.799
<v Speaker 1>through with a procedure like this, and one of the

0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:04.279
<v Speaker 1>best examples that I ever saw, one of the best

0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:08.759
<v Speaker 1>questions that's ever come up on this issue that if

0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:12.600
<v Speaker 1>if you're a doctor, it's different. You can look at

0:40:12.640 --> 0:40:15.040
<v Speaker 1>you can look at a human body and you can

0:40:15.040 --> 0:40:17.840
<v Speaker 1>see if there's cancer in there, you can see a tumor,

0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:22.239
<v Speaker 1>you can see, you know, a broken bone, and you

0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:25.920
<v Speaker 1>know that if nothing is done, then that cancer is

0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:28.120
<v Speaker 1>just going to get worse. That broken bone is not

0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:31.240
<v Speaker 1>going to heal itself, and so that sort of intervention

0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:34.440
<v Speaker 1>is needed. But when it comes to a procedure like this,

0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:40.160
<v Speaker 1>if if that, if you do nothing, if you do nothing,

0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:43.719
<v Speaker 1>what harm is done to the body? Absolutely, and.

0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:48.080
<v Speaker 5>So well, I tell you oil old, but just hold on, man.

0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:54.000
<v Speaker 5>I appreciate you having the hanging down things to voice

0:40:54.000 --> 0:40:56.239
<v Speaker 5>your opinion. I'm sure a lot of people think you're

0:40:56.320 --> 0:40:58.960
<v Speaker 5>goofy or in a box of rocks, but I tell

0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:00.880
<v Speaker 5>you what, I believe there's a lot more people to

0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 5>think you're a pretty sharp guy. So God bless you

0:41:03.719 --> 0:41:05.239
<v Speaker 5>and take your next call or all that good.

0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:06.880
<v Speaker 1>So, Jef, thank you very much for the call. I

0:41:06.960 --> 0:41:09.319
<v Speaker 1>appreciate I hate that and no people that listen to

0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:11.440
<v Speaker 1>this show. They know I've been talking about this subject

0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:17.279
<v Speaker 1>for years, and thank god for Kennedy, and well you

0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:21.839
<v Speaker 1>had Marjorie Taylor Green who got this motion passed last night.

0:41:21.840 --> 0:41:23.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's what it's going to do

0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:28.520
<v Speaker 1>in the in the Senate, but today, you know, you

0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:36.399
<v Speaker 1>had Kennedy moved to create these regulatory actions that would

0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:42.200
<v Speaker 1>prevent these procedures from taking praise the sweeping proposals are

0:41:42.239 --> 0:41:45.000
<v Speaker 1>the most significant moves the Trump administration has taken so

0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:49.320
<v Speaker 1>far to restrict the use of puberty blockers, hormone therapy,

0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:55.200
<v Speaker 1>and surgical interventions for transgender children. He called so called

0:41:55.280 --> 0:42:00.359
<v Speaker 1>gender affirming care for children not medicine, but malpractice. He said,

0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:05.520
<v Speaker 1>HHS is done with junk science, driven by ideological pursuits,

0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:10.319
<v Speaker 1>not the well being of children. Kennedy said the moves

0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:13.280
<v Speaker 1>are guided by the gold Standards of science and anchored

0:42:13.280 --> 0:42:18.280
<v Speaker 1>in HHS peer reviewed a peer reviewed review of evidence

0:42:18.320 --> 0:42:23.279
<v Speaker 1>that the department published last month on pediatric gender dysphoria.

0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:28.320
<v Speaker 1>According to Health and Human Services, the department's actions include

0:42:28.400 --> 0:42:33.520
<v Speaker 1>two news centers for Medicare and Medicaid services, notices of

0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:39.160
<v Speaker 1>proposed rulemaking, one proposal with bar hospitals participating in Medicare

0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:44.680
<v Speaker 1>and Medicaid from performing sex rejection procedures on children under

0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:50.120
<v Speaker 1>the age of eighteen as a condition of participation. A

0:42:50.160 --> 0:42:54.640
<v Speaker 1>second proposal would prohibit federal Medicaid funding for such procedures

0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:58.719
<v Speaker 1>for those under eighteen, and would apply similarly similarly to

0:42:59.000 --> 0:43:03.200
<v Speaker 1>the Children's Health and Insurance Program for individuals under nineteen.

0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Press release said Kennedy signed a declaration finding these interventions

0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:14.640
<v Speaker 1>do not meet professionally recognize standards of healthcare, with practitioners

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:21.120
<v Speaker 1>deemed out of compliance under that declaration. HHS further announced

0:43:21.160 --> 0:43:23.960
<v Speaker 1>that Food and Drug Administration is issuing warning letters to

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:29.360
<v Speaker 1>twelve manufacturers and retailers over the illegal marketing of breast

0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:33.840
<v Speaker 1>binders to children for the purpose of treating gender dysphoria,

0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:38.880
<v Speaker 1>warning of possible enforcement actions. In addition, HHS said it

0:43:38.960 --> 0:43:42.920
<v Speaker 1>is moving to reverse a biden ear attempt to include

0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 1>gender dysphoria within the definition of disability under section five

0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:51.520
<v Speaker 1>oh four of the Rehabilitation Act, seeking to reassure recipients

0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:55.680
<v Speaker 1>of HHS funds that policies limiting these procedures do not

0:43:55.840 --> 0:44:01.399
<v Speaker 1>violate federal disability non demonstration, demonstration, non discrimination, and requirements.

0:44:03.560 --> 0:44:10.000
<v Speaker 1>So Trump put out an executive order, and now these

0:44:10.080 --> 0:44:16.920
<v Speaker 1>regulatory tools are expected to aid in that order being

0:44:17.040 --> 0:44:25.680
<v Speaker 1>carried out. Let's see Thursday's announcement in perils access to

0:44:25.719 --> 0:44:28.680
<v Speaker 1>nearly two dozen states where drug treatments and surgical procedures

0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:33.320
<v Speaker 1>are mainly legal and funded by Medicaid, which includes federal

0:44:34.200 --> 0:44:37.560
<v Speaker 1>and state dollars. More than half of the US state's

0:44:37.600 --> 0:44:43.719
<v Speaker 1>already banned or restrict gender changing care. And the word

0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:47.080
<v Speaker 1>care should not be used with that because it is.

0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:53.640
<v Speaker 1>It's butchery. I mean, it really is. Let's see, and

0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:56.720
<v Speaker 1>then you've got this bill that was passed by Marjorie Taylor.

0:44:56.760 --> 0:45:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Green House voted Wednesday to pass greens bill criminalizing child

0:45:03.480 --> 0:45:11.880
<v Speaker 1>sex change procedures nationwide four Republicans. The four Republicans voted

0:45:11.880 --> 0:45:16.839
<v Speaker 1>against the bill are Gabe Evans of Colorado, Brian Fitzpatrick

0:45:16.880 --> 0:45:21.040
<v Speaker 1>of Pennsylvania, Mike Kennedy of Utah, and Mike Lawler of

0:45:21.080 --> 0:45:27.520
<v Speaker 1>New York. Green's bill, the Protect Children's Innocence Act, would

0:45:27.560 --> 0:45:30.200
<v Speaker 1>make it a Class C felony to perform child sex

0:45:30.280 --> 0:45:34.879
<v Speaker 1>change procedures and often an offense punishable up to ten

0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:38.600
<v Speaker 1>years in prison. Parents and those who assist minors in

0:45:38.640 --> 0:45:42.480
<v Speaker 1>gaining access to sex change procedures would also be subject

0:45:42.480 --> 0:45:47.280
<v Speaker 1>to punishment. The vote mark the first time legislation banning

0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:51.719
<v Speaker 1>puberty blockers, hormones, and surgeries for miners seeking to alter

0:45:51.880 --> 0:45:58.320
<v Speaker 1>their biological sex reach the House floor. Republicans showed today

0:45:58.360 --> 0:46:01.719
<v Speaker 1>they are as committed to detecting children as Democrats are

0:46:01.760 --> 0:46:06.280
<v Speaker 1>to disfiguring them, said Terry Shilling, president of the American

0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:10.759
<v Speaker 1>Principles Project. Democrats have been captured by an ideology that

0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:14.839
<v Speaker 1>is poisonous, that is as poisonous as it is profitable.

0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Green has sought to enact a nationwide ban on child

0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:23.680
<v Speaker 1>sex changes since twenty twenty two, but a floor vote

0:46:23.680 --> 0:46:26.560
<v Speaker 1>on her legislation has been elusive for a long time.

0:46:29.120 --> 0:46:35.560
<v Speaker 1>And so finally you've got people in Congress, and well,

0:46:35.560 --> 0:46:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Marjorie keep Taylor Green is leaving Congress, but you've got

0:46:40.600 --> 0:46:45.359
<v Speaker 1>people in Congress who are standing up against this sort

0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:49.400
<v Speaker 1>of butchery. It is. It is just an absolute shame

0:46:50.840 --> 0:46:53.440
<v Speaker 1>that this sort of thing exists in the United States.

0:46:55.080 --> 0:46:59.400
<v Speaker 1>But thanks to this administration, steps are being taken to

0:46:59.680 --> 0:47:04.360
<v Speaker 1>make sure that it never happens again. And all you

0:47:04.400 --> 0:47:07.440
<v Speaker 1>have to do is look at the pictures look at

0:47:07.480 --> 0:47:14.000
<v Speaker 1>the individuals who have been mutilated by these procedures, and

0:47:14.040 --> 0:47:16.959
<v Speaker 1>you look at that. And I have said it again

0:47:17.080 --> 0:47:19.279
<v Speaker 1>time and time again. You know what is wholesome or

0:47:19.360 --> 0:47:24.120
<v Speaker 1>uplifting or good about any of that? It's absolutely none

0:47:24.160 --> 0:47:30.600
<v Speaker 1>of it. You know, Are there kids who have difficulties

0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:32.600
<v Speaker 1>with this? Are the kids who are suffering with these

0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:38.480
<v Speaker 1>sort of ideations? Absolutely? But is the answer to acquiesce

0:47:38.600 --> 0:47:46.000
<v Speaker 1>to their to their thoughts that were most likely implanted

0:47:46.040 --> 0:47:54.040
<v Speaker 1>in their heads by activists, by individuals who for whatever

0:47:54.120 --> 0:47:59.080
<v Speaker 1>reason I want to see kids go through this sort

0:47:59.080 --> 0:48:03.760
<v Speaker 1>of thing? Is that? Is that the best way forward

0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:07.399
<v Speaker 1>dealing with these sorts of things. None of these kids

0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:11.200
<v Speaker 1>need compassion, They need real care. They need help with

0:48:11.239 --> 0:48:14.120
<v Speaker 1>what is going on between their ears, not between their legs.

0:48:17.440 --> 0:48:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Let's see the let me see what I mean. The

0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:29.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean. The thing is, you know when when these

0:48:29.520 --> 0:48:35.880
<v Speaker 1>kids come down with this kind of stuff, I mean,

0:48:36.360 --> 0:48:40.880
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, the kids, they aren't The vast majority

0:48:40.920 --> 0:48:47.160
<v Speaker 1>of these kids outgrow this. Advocates are transgender. This piece

0:48:47.200 --> 0:48:51.440
<v Speaker 1>by Tyler O'Neill in The Daily Signal. Advocates are transgender

0:48:51.480 --> 0:48:55.439
<v Speaker 1>medical interventions euphemistically refer to it as gender affirming care

0:48:55.600 --> 0:48:59.680
<v Speaker 1>often seek to silence critics rather than engage in a

0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:04.080
<v Speaker 1>debate on the science. One of the authors of the

0:49:04.239 --> 0:49:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Health and Human Services report on the issue says he

0:49:06.520 --> 0:49:10.160
<v Speaker 1>thinks he knows why. Health and Human Services published a

0:49:10.200 --> 0:49:13.279
<v Speaker 1>review of the evidence regarding medical transitions from minors back

0:49:13.320 --> 0:49:18.200
<v Speaker 1>in May, finding extremely weak evidence for any benefits from

0:49:18.320 --> 0:49:23.440
<v Speaker 1>gender affirming care. HHS sought peer reviews, submitting its report

0:49:24.120 --> 0:49:30.239
<v Speaker 1>to medical professional professionals in pro transgender health associations. Yet

0:49:30.280 --> 0:49:36.400
<v Speaker 1>two of those three pro transgender groups that were approached

0:49:36.400 --> 0:49:43.120
<v Speaker 1>by HHS refused to engage, and the remaining organizations appeared

0:49:44.160 --> 0:49:49.520
<v Speaker 1>not to have read the full report. HHS offered the

0:49:49.680 --> 0:49:54.000
<v Speaker 1>leading organizations advocating for these treatments an opportunity to have

0:49:54.200 --> 0:50:00.600
<v Speaker 1>their experts participate in a rigorous peer review process. And

0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:03.480
<v Speaker 1>if you're listening to me right now and you're in

0:50:03.520 --> 0:50:07.880
<v Speaker 1>the medical profession, isn't that an important step? Peer review

0:50:09.120 --> 0:50:16.000
<v Speaker 1>of your work. You have other professionals. Medical professionals look

0:50:16.000 --> 0:50:19.840
<v Speaker 1>at what treatment you're recommending. If you have a new treatment,

0:50:19.880 --> 0:50:23.520
<v Speaker 1>something that hasn't been tried before, you peer review the evidence.

0:50:24.440 --> 0:50:29.640
<v Speaker 1>You subject your findings to the most rigorous type of review.

0:50:31.200 --> 0:50:33.399
<v Speaker 1>Why do you do that? Because you want to be right,

0:50:33.760 --> 0:50:36.560
<v Speaker 1>you want to know you're doing the right thing. And

0:50:36.680 --> 0:50:40.360
<v Speaker 1>yet these organizations that advocate for this kind of stuff,

0:50:40.400 --> 0:50:44.640
<v Speaker 1>they didn't want any part of it. HHS said, look,

0:50:44.680 --> 0:50:48.160
<v Speaker 1>here's our report, here's our work, look at it. Tell

0:50:48.239 --> 0:50:49.880
<v Speaker 1>us what you think, and that we're not going to

0:50:49.960 --> 0:51:00.839
<v Speaker 1>do that. AHHS offered the leading organizations advocating for these

0:51:00.880 --> 0:51:04.160
<v Speaker 1>treatments an opportunity to have their experts participate in peer

0:51:04.800 --> 0:51:12.400
<v Speaker 1>and rigorous peer review process. Le Or Sleeper, a senior

0:51:12.400 --> 0:51:15.280
<v Speaker 1>fellow at the Manhattan Institute, said one of the reviews,

0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:19.320
<v Speaker 1>and one of the reviews nine contributors told the Daily

0:51:19.360 --> 0:51:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Signal as a supplement clearly shows no such errors or

0:51:22.600 --> 0:51:25.440
<v Speaker 1>o emissions could be identified. Perhaps that's why advocates of

0:51:25.480 --> 0:51:31.840
<v Speaker 1>these controversial drugs and surgeries prefer silence, or preferred to

0:51:31.960 --> 0:51:37.880
<v Speaker 1>silence critics and engage in smear campaigns. So, I mean,

0:51:38.320 --> 0:51:42.200
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing is just as filthy, dirty and rotten

0:51:42.239 --> 0:51:46.440
<v Speaker 1>as it can be. And thank God for these people

0:51:46.440 --> 0:51:50.440
<v Speaker 1>that we have in the positions that they are now,

0:51:51.320 --> 0:51:54.560
<v Speaker 1>who are doing everything they can to bring a stop

0:51:54.600 --> 0:51:58.160
<v Speaker 1>to it. It's ten twenty five. We got to get

0:51:58.160 --> 0:51:59.880
<v Speaker 1>to a break news coming up to the bottom of

0:51:59.880 --> 0:52:02.640
<v Speaker 1>the hour, and we roll on till midnight tonight, Dan

0:52:02.680 --> 0:52:05.800
<v Speaker 1>Carroll the Thursday night edition of The Midweek Crisis on

0:52:05.920 --> 0:52:16.440
<v Speaker 1>seven hundred WW back on the Big One seven W

0:52:17.239 --> 0:52:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Joe Wandell, didn't I ask you to find some Christmas

0:52:19.600 --> 0:52:24.839
<v Speaker 1>music pumping with? Did you totally forget about that? I mean,

0:52:24.840 --> 0:52:30.680
<v Speaker 1>come on, man, oh man, no Christmas music? Oh way,

0:52:30.960 --> 0:52:33.560
<v Speaker 1>what are we going to do? All right? So last

0:52:33.600 --> 0:52:36.759
<v Speaker 1>night Donald Trump went in front of the went in

0:52:36.800 --> 0:52:42.200
<v Speaker 1>front of the nation and gave a gave an address

0:52:42.600 --> 0:52:45.360
<v Speaker 1>talking about where we have been, talking about what he

0:52:45.440 --> 0:52:49.759
<v Speaker 1>inherited from Joe Biden, talking about the economic progress that

0:52:49.840 --> 0:52:53.200
<v Speaker 1>he has been trying to make. And look, these things

0:52:53.239 --> 0:52:55.799
<v Speaker 1>they don't happen overnight. But all in all, I thought

0:52:55.840 --> 0:52:58.160
<v Speaker 1>it was a pretty good speech. And so during the

0:52:58.200 --> 0:53:01.440
<v Speaker 1>day today Chuck Schumer was so moved by that speech

0:53:01.520 --> 0:53:04.279
<v Speaker 1>that he felt compelled to go to the floor of

0:53:04.320 --> 0:53:09.279
<v Speaker 1>the Senate and provide a little analysis of the Trump

0:53:09.360 --> 0:53:15.960
<v Speaker 1>speech and then some psychoanalysis of the president himself. And

0:53:16.360 --> 0:53:19.680
<v Speaker 1>this is what Chuck Schumer sounded like today on the

0:53:19.680 --> 0:53:21.440
<v Speaker 1>floor of the Senate. Let's hear cut Number.

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<v Speaker 8>One mister president. Last night, Donald Trump gave a speech

0:53:25.520 --> 0:53:29.920
<v Speaker 8>about how supposedly great his first year has been. So

0:53:30.000 --> 0:53:32.960
<v Speaker 8>of course the speech was short because there's really not

0:53:33.080 --> 0:53:37.400
<v Speaker 8>much to say about how great Trump has been for

0:53:37.440 --> 0:53:43.399
<v Speaker 8>eighteen months, sorry for eighteen minutes. The President last night

0:53:43.480 --> 0:53:47.120
<v Speaker 8>tried to convince Americans the sky is green, that trees

0:53:47.160 --> 0:53:47.640
<v Speaker 8>can walk.

0:53:48.120 --> 0:53:49.720
<v Speaker 1>He yelled at the camera.

0:53:52.280 --> 0:53:55.719
<v Speaker 8>And said that things are somehow going great, even though

0:53:55.760 --> 0:54:00.439
<v Speaker 8>costs are up. He said he's doing a great job

0:54:00.440 --> 0:54:04.719
<v Speaker 8>in office, all of which is obviously false, and the

0:54:04.760 --> 0:54:10.040
<v Speaker 8>American people didn't buy it. It was clear watching the

0:54:10.080 --> 0:54:14.160
<v Speaker 8>speech that the President didn't want to be there. The

0:54:14.160 --> 0:54:17.120
<v Speaker 8>only thing Americans saw last night was a very rich

0:54:17.200 --> 0:54:21.520
<v Speaker 8>president trapped in a bubble, forced by his advisors to

0:54:21.520 --> 0:54:23.120
<v Speaker 8>give a speech he didn't want to give.

0:54:24.360 --> 0:54:25.920
<v Speaker 1>It's like your cousin who can't.

0:54:25.680 --> 0:54:29.640
<v Speaker 8>Sit still for a Christmas photo, only this is the

0:54:29.680 --> 0:54:31.440
<v Speaker 8>president of the United States.

0:54:31.560 --> 0:54:34.560
<v Speaker 1>So there's Chuck Schumer talking about Trump in a bubble,

0:54:35.600 --> 0:54:37.640
<v Speaker 1>forced to give a speech he didn't want to give.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you really think that Donald Trump is the kind

0:54:40.840 --> 0:54:44.160
<v Speaker 1>of guy that does things that he doesn't want to do?

0:54:45.200 --> 0:54:48.439
<v Speaker 1>Joining me now is a guy that it's been way

0:54:48.440 --> 0:54:52.120
<v Speaker 1>too long since I've had him on the show. Doctor

0:54:52.120 --> 0:54:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Sheldon Roth, MD is the author of Psychologically Sound, The

0:54:57.200 --> 0:55:00.799
<v Speaker 1>Mind of Donald J. Trump, and Doctor it is great

0:55:00.800 --> 0:55:02.640
<v Speaker 1>to have you back on the show today, sir. How

0:55:02.680 --> 0:55:02.920
<v Speaker 1>are you?

0:55:04.280 --> 0:55:07.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm well, thank you, and I trust you are and

0:55:07.719 --> 0:55:11.360
<v Speaker 4>I hope all your listeners are in this holiday season,

0:55:11.400 --> 0:55:14.320
<v Speaker 4>I wish everybody a good New Year and a happy holiday.

0:55:16.160 --> 0:55:19.240
<v Speaker 4>In terms of what the cut you just played, the

0:55:19.480 --> 0:55:24.400
<v Speaker 4>Chuck shows you could get any body on a street

0:55:24.440 --> 0:55:28.480
<v Speaker 4>corner to have the same kind of lack of insight

0:55:28.640 --> 0:55:33.640
<v Speaker 4>or understanding. All he did was cast dispersions without any

0:55:33.800 --> 0:55:41.359
<v Speaker 4>kind of data or understanding. And I thought the talk

0:55:41.480 --> 0:55:47.520
<v Speaker 4>last night was extremely significant importance and well done for

0:55:47.640 --> 0:55:52.160
<v Speaker 4>several different reasons, and if I could, then I'd like

0:55:52.239 --> 0:55:55.239
<v Speaker 4>to mention them. The first that I talk about would

0:55:55.239 --> 0:56:00.359
<v Speaker 4>be his psychology, the second is his stature as a present.

0:56:00.800 --> 0:56:05.919
<v Speaker 4>And then sired some of the actual content I, as

0:56:06.040 --> 0:56:10.640
<v Speaker 4>some other people have been, had been concerned of late

0:56:11.360 --> 0:56:14.720
<v Speaker 4>in that I thought there was a certain looseness about

0:56:14.880 --> 0:56:20.680
<v Speaker 4>his behavior that was beyond his usual uh A loose

0:56:21.560 --> 0:56:29.680
<v Speaker 4>jocular shenanigans, the uh inappropriate response to Rob Ryner the

0:56:30.080 --> 0:56:35.680
<v Speaker 4>talk in Pennsylvania in which he called affordability a hoax.

0:56:36.200 --> 0:56:39.319
<v Speaker 4>I wondered what had happened to this man. This is

0:56:39.360 --> 0:56:42.600
<v Speaker 4>a guy who used to go down from his office

0:56:42.640 --> 0:56:44.799
<v Speaker 4>at the end of the day on Fifth Avenue, walk

0:56:44.840 --> 0:56:48.520
<v Speaker 4>over to Lexington to a Korean grocery store, to his

0:56:48.600 --> 0:56:52.280
<v Speaker 4>own shopping, get some chips for dinner, talk to people

0:56:52.320 --> 0:56:52.960
<v Speaker 4>in the street.

0:56:53.840 --> 0:56:55.920
<v Speaker 5>Where had he had.

0:56:55.719 --> 0:57:01.320
<v Speaker 4>He lost contact? And I and and people so trade

0:57:01.800 --> 0:57:04.839
<v Speaker 4>to tell them their point of view for fear of

0:57:04.880 --> 0:57:08.759
<v Speaker 4>being seen as disloyal and then just thrown out of

0:57:08.800 --> 0:57:13.000
<v Speaker 4>the inner circle. Last night, I was reassured that I

0:57:13.040 --> 0:57:14.839
<v Speaker 4>have no need of fear.

0:57:14.600 --> 0:57:15.239
<v Speaker 5>Of any of that.

0:57:16.000 --> 0:57:19.560
<v Speaker 4>As a matter of fact, his capacity to hold that

0:57:19.640 --> 0:57:23.280
<v Speaker 4>thing down to eighteen minutes, although truck Schumer, if he

0:57:23.360 --> 0:57:26.040
<v Speaker 4>were a little more data conscious, would know it was

0:57:26.080 --> 0:57:31.960
<v Speaker 4>more like nineteen minutes. But he actually was able to

0:57:32.040 --> 0:57:35.840
<v Speaker 4>respond to his staff taking a different point of view

0:57:36.680 --> 0:57:42.560
<v Speaker 4>and not repeat the performances of his loose non teleprompter

0:57:44.000 --> 0:57:46.720
<v Speaker 4>off the cuff remarks that went off for ninety minutes

0:57:47.040 --> 0:57:52.720
<v Speaker 4>at several rallies. He was extremely organized, well focused, and

0:57:53.000 --> 0:57:56.760
<v Speaker 4>in a manner of eighteen nineteen minutes, managed to go

0:57:56.840 --> 0:58:01.120
<v Speaker 4>through about one hundred different points of view, and and

0:58:01.680 --> 0:58:05.360
<v Speaker 4>most of all, he was presidential and by that I

0:58:05.480 --> 0:58:10.520
<v Speaker 4>meant he offered hope to the United States and wanted

0:58:10.560 --> 0:58:14.720
<v Speaker 4>to help them understand that they should not be confused,

0:58:15.280 --> 0:58:20.720
<v Speaker 4>that economies don't turn on a dime, that everything he's

0:58:20.880 --> 0:58:25.200
<v Speaker 4>doing is in the interest of improving the everyday lives

0:58:25.200 --> 0:58:30.760
<v Speaker 4>of people. And if people doubted, for example, that his

0:58:30.920 --> 0:58:37.080
<v Speaker 4>tariffs were working, his ability to provide seventeen seventy six

0:58:37.200 --> 0:58:41.280
<v Speaker 4>that great number of dollars to the military, which he

0:58:41.320 --> 0:58:46.600
<v Speaker 4>ascribed to the tariff income as a first payoff, he's

0:58:46.640 --> 0:58:53.400
<v Speaker 4>showing the country this is actually paying off, citing gasoline prices,

0:58:53.880 --> 0:58:59.320
<v Speaker 4>and that he spoke the everyday needs. And he didn't falsify.

0:59:00.400 --> 0:59:05.640
<v Speaker 4>He talked to exaggerations, which he always does, because remember

0:59:06.160 --> 0:59:08.720
<v Speaker 4>I loved the combats that he made quite a while

0:59:08.720 --> 0:59:12.439
<v Speaker 4>ago about someone said, why do you always say you're

0:59:12.440 --> 0:59:15.840
<v Speaker 4>the first, you're the best, You're you're the top, you're

0:59:15.880 --> 0:59:18.720
<v Speaker 4>the height. He said, when was the last time you

0:59:18.800 --> 0:59:22.360
<v Speaker 4>ever went into a pizza store that had an advertisement

0:59:22.760 --> 0:59:29.200
<v Speaker 4>the fourth greatest pizza in the world. So you'll have

0:59:29.400 --> 0:59:33.040
<v Speaker 4>to give You have to give people something that they

0:59:33.080 --> 0:59:36.920
<v Speaker 4>could long for and that and that will work, and

0:59:37.000 --> 0:59:41.640
<v Speaker 4>so he took it on many everyday aspects of life.

0:59:42.840 --> 0:59:47.480
<v Speaker 4>If he secured the border, the border was secure, primarily

0:59:47.840 --> 0:59:52.400
<v Speaker 4>so that we could make sea streets safe again and

0:59:52.440 --> 0:59:56.400
<v Speaker 4>that crime was down, and indeed crime is down across

0:59:56.440 --> 1:00:01.160
<v Speaker 4>the whole nation. Or he talked about the Paul season schools,

1:00:01.960 --> 1:00:06.640
<v Speaker 4>breaking the hold of the radicals and hamas on school campuses,

1:00:08.160 --> 1:00:15.040
<v Speaker 4>and getting our trends women basically men out of sports

1:00:15.400 --> 1:00:18.400
<v Speaker 4>and speaking up for women. And he spoke like a

1:00:18.440 --> 1:00:23.320
<v Speaker 4>president who reminded everybody, this is a republic and he's

1:00:23.360 --> 1:00:28.080
<v Speaker 4>going to push power back back to the States, particularly

1:00:28.080 --> 1:00:33.760
<v Speaker 4>in regard to education. So every element that he picked

1:00:33.840 --> 1:00:37.320
<v Speaker 4>on was an element that would provide hope, and he

1:00:37.680 --> 1:00:40.360
<v Speaker 4>cut across many different angles.

1:00:40.920 --> 1:00:41.360
<v Speaker 2>So the.

1:00:43.200 --> 1:00:48.320
<v Speaker 4>Appeal to young women in sports was matched by the

1:00:48.360 --> 1:00:53.680
<v Speaker 4>cutting down of drug prices, particularly for seniors. He gave

1:00:53.760 --> 1:00:58.680
<v Speaker 4>the people. The newspapers have criticized him that he's super

1:00:58.720 --> 1:01:03.400
<v Speaker 4>involved in foreign powers. There was actually very little foreign

1:01:03.480 --> 1:01:10.120
<v Speaker 4>policy per se that was in that speech except mention

1:01:10.280 --> 1:01:14.400
<v Speaker 4>that he is for peace. He's not a warmonger, which

1:01:14.440 --> 1:01:18.040
<v Speaker 4>has been ascribed to him of late because of the

1:01:18.120 --> 1:01:23.400
<v Speaker 4>Venezuela incidents. So even in that example.

1:01:23.720 --> 1:01:25.600
<v Speaker 5>He was trying to.

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<v Speaker 4>Give the people that America is first, and that he's

1:01:31.800 --> 1:01:37.600
<v Speaker 4>not preoccupied beyond, beyond the beyond the average citizens. So

1:01:37.880 --> 1:01:41.000
<v Speaker 4>as a matter of fact, I was concerned that he

1:01:41.320 --> 1:01:45.640
<v Speaker 4>could he possibly, as Schumer said, get himself caught in

1:01:45.720 --> 1:01:48.840
<v Speaker 4>a bubble in which he was only in an echo

1:01:48.920 --> 1:01:53.600
<v Speaker 4>chamber and hearing himself back. But once he ended that speeches,

1:01:53.680 --> 1:01:57.439
<v Speaker 4>I understand it. He turned to Susie Wilds and he said, well,

1:01:57.480 --> 1:02:00.280
<v Speaker 4>did I do good? I kept it under twenty minutes.

1:02:00.400 --> 1:02:05.160
<v Speaker 4>In other words, Susie Wiles, despite the fact that people

1:02:05.240 --> 1:02:10.360
<v Speaker 4>have been very critical of her for the Vanity Fair article. Incidentally,

1:02:10.480 --> 1:02:14.160
<v Speaker 4>no conservative should ever look themselves to be interviewed by

1:02:14.520 --> 1:02:18.840
<v Speaker 4>a liberal a liberal organ. They're going to be put

1:02:18.960 --> 1:02:22.760
<v Speaker 4>to the grinder. So he is responsive to the people

1:02:22.800 --> 1:02:26.440
<v Speaker 4>around him, which I had been concerned about, and I

1:02:26.480 --> 1:02:29.560
<v Speaker 4>couldn't I think, three weeks ago, I couldn't imagine him

1:02:30.280 --> 1:02:35.920
<v Speaker 4>putting together or talk like that so are concise and

1:02:35.960 --> 1:02:40.960
<v Speaker 4>so condensed. Most people, of course, thought that he was

1:02:41.000 --> 1:02:46.280
<v Speaker 4>going to wind up talking about war on Venezuela. I

1:02:46.360 --> 1:02:51.400
<v Speaker 4>heard one cynic h suggests that the reason the White

1:02:51.440 --> 1:02:55.080
<v Speaker 4>House to let that rumor go out was so that ABC,

1:02:55.360 --> 1:03:00.560
<v Speaker 4>CBS and NBC would carry the talk otherwise otherwise they

1:03:00.880 --> 1:03:05.280
<v Speaker 4>would ignore it, and indeed, you know, liberal newspapers to

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<v Speaker 4>ignore it. I happened to peruse every day the Los

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<v Speaker 4>Angeles Times, the Washington Post, the Boston Globe, and the

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<v Speaker 4>New York Times. Well do you know that the Los

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<v Speaker 4>Angeles Times, on a front page had about fifteen different

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<v Speaker 4>news items sided Not one of them was about the

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<v Speaker 4>President of the United States, and you know, were the

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<v Speaker 4>same for the Boston Globe. Not one mentioned on the

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<v Speaker 4>front pages of the of those magazines. And when the

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<v Speaker 4>Times covered it, it was actually just a couple of paragraphs,

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<v Speaker 4>most of which were negative. Has stunned at the inability

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<v Speaker 4>of people who call themselves journalists did not report on

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<v Speaker 4>the fact that the President of the United States gave

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<v Speaker 4>an address to the nation the night before. But of

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<v Speaker 4>course we've been suffering from that long time and will

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<v Speaker 4>continue to suffer from that. So I was reassured about

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<v Speaker 4>his psychology because let's remember, you know, his father died

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<v Speaker 4>of dementia, and that started in his late eighties, and

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<v Speaker 4>towards the end, his mother was slightly demented, but not

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<v Speaker 4>as much as the father. So far as I know

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<v Speaker 4>his uncle John, who was who's the father's brother, renowned

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<v Speaker 4>professor at MIT, brilliant, brilliant man. I never suffered from dementia,

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<v Speaker 4>but that was always in the back of my mind,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was reassured about it by his behavior and

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<v Speaker 4>his ability to stick to the task. And whether you

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<v Speaker 4>agree with those statistics or not, he used them. It

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't all. Nothing was off the cuff. Everything was. Everything was.

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<v Speaker 5>I have data on this.

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<v Speaker 4>You can disagree with it, but I have day though

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not like Chuck Schumer was talking like some guy

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<v Speaker 4>in a candy store in Brooklyn. I mean, he said

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely nothing. But Trump was filled with facts. Although I

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<v Speaker 4>could tell you one fact then you know, he talked

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<v Speaker 4>about how gas is coming down. Yes, I filled them

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<v Speaker 4>back car today in LA it was five dollars a gallon.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, well, California is a special case when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to when it comes to gasoline, so it can be right.

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<v Speaker 1>It did. It was two thirty nine today when I

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<v Speaker 1>put gas in my tank today, so it uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>We're we're doing pretty good here.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you mentioned his comments about Rob Reiner and

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<v Speaker 1>we've only got a couple of minutes here, uh, doctor Roth.

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<v Speaker 1>But I commented on that I didn't think it was

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think it was his finest hour. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think it was you know that that it was his

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<v Speaker 1>greatest thing. But overall I thought it was fair. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was it was Trump. It was Trump being

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<v Speaker 1>true to himself. And Rob Reiner has a history of

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<v Speaker 1>saying some of the he he Rob Ronner said he

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<v Speaker 1>hates Trump, he called he's called him a fascist, He's

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<v Speaker 1>called him a Nazi, talked about how he wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>destroy them other so Trump is is no fan of

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Reiner, and and he said so and so just

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean, and it look that the death is horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>I disagree with Rob Reiner in all sorts of ways,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean, God, I mean, God bless him. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no way anything like that should ever happen. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think when you can compare some of the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that came out after the Charlie Kirk assassination and things

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<v Speaker 1>like that, I think that statement was really was really

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<v Speaker 1>pretty tame, and it was Trump being Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>And Rob, would you say, Dan, I was discussing this

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<v Speaker 4>with my wife and she said, what I believe she said,

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<v Speaker 4>that's why people vote for him. He says what people think.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm not allowed to say that.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of.

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<v Speaker 4>People feel the way you about the things that Rob

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<v Speaker 4>Ryner has expressed and anyway prompt of the package like

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<v Speaker 4>most other people in life. And he has his super virtues,

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<v Speaker 4>and he has his questionable liabilities, and you have to

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<v Speaker 4>take him as a package. And it's a mistake if

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<v Speaker 4>you land on one particular aspect to negate him. Just

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<v Speaker 4>like you with any other person in life, people are

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<v Speaker 4>a complete package. We're complicated creatures. So I think many

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<v Speaker 4>people feel I heard Luke Gingrich's comments on Fox News

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<v Speaker 4>about the talk. He thought it was one of the

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<v Speaker 4>best presidential addresses he had heard, and he thought only

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<v Speaker 4>in future years, well, people will actually appreciate what he said,

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<v Speaker 4>particularly with the tariffs. They have to play out.

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<v Speaker 1>They have to play out. Yeah, no, no, I agree,

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<v Speaker 1>and the and the I thought the the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>giving one thousand, seven hundred and seventy six dollars to

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<v Speaker 1>members of the armed services was a great move as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But doctor Roth, before I let you go, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to give you an assignment, Okay, I want to give

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<v Speaker 1>you an assignment. I saw yesterday where a documentary about

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<v Speaker 1>about Donald Trump's wife is going to come out, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh and and I want you to watch that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want and then I want to discuss that

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<v Speaker 1>after you watch it. So that's gonna co. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know it's coming out. I think maybe right after the holiday.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's coming out in January.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in January. So I want you to watch that

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<v Speaker 1>because I want to know how much of an influence

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<v Speaker 1>she is on the White House and how much of

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<v Speaker 1>an influence she is on a regular basis on Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to be fascinating to see this,

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<v Speaker 1>this documentary. So I want you to watch that, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we will set up a time for us to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it here on the radio. But for now,

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Roth, we've got to run. I always appreciate the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I love having you on. I could listen to you

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<v Speaker 1>talk all night. So thank you so much for the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I certainly look forward to the next time we

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<v Speaker 1>get a chance to talk again.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Dan. I'm a happy New Year to you

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<v Speaker 4>and your listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, doctor Sheldon Roth. All the best to you

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<v Speaker 1>and your family, sir. Thank you so much. I just

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it is about that guy. I

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<v Speaker 1>could just listen to him talk all night. Ten fifty six,

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<v Speaker 1>We've got to get to a break on seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm back on the Big One, seven hundred WLW eleven

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<v Speaker 1>O seven. This is the Thursday night edition of the

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<v Speaker 1>Midweek Crisis. I'm Dan Carroll. Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>being here. I I'm always glad to be here. Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Waddell is running the big board in the seven hundred

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<v Speaker 1>WLW command center. Joe, let's go ahead and open the

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<v Speaker 1>phone lines five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and one, eight hundreds, the Big One, and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of different things I want to touch on here. But

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<v Speaker 1>I earlier in the show tonight, we were supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>speak with my buddy Joe Hoft, and we were not

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<v Speaker 1>able to make contact with him. So I hope everything's

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<v Speaker 1>all right with him. But one of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>Joe and I talked about initially, and the reason I

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<v Speaker 1>had him on as a guest, is because he was

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<v Speaker 1>there was no one who was more on top of

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<v Speaker 1>the election fraud of twenty twenty than he was. He

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<v Speaker 1>wrote three different books about it, so he knows this

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<v Speaker 1>inside and out. And I mean, he knows what happened

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<v Speaker 1>in Wisconsin, he knows what happened in Michigan, he knows

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<v Speaker 1>what happened in Arizona, he knows what happened in the

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<v Speaker 1>he knows what happened in Georgia, he knows what happened

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<v Speaker 1>in Pennsylvania. And as I was getting ready for the

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<v Speaker 1>show today, I found this piece in the Federalist, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's talking about what happened in Fulton County. Fulton County, Georgia,

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<v Speaker 1>and in Fulton County, Georgia. They have admitted that approximately

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred and fifteen thousand early votes from the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty election were illegally certified, but were nonetheless still included

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<v Speaker 1>in the final results of that election. The admission came

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<v Speaker 1>during a hearing last week before the Georgia State Election Board,

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<v Speaker 1>stepping from a challenge filed by David Cross, a local

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<v Speaker 1>election integrity activist. He filed a challenge with the state

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<v Speaker 1>Election Board back in March of twenty two, alleging the

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<v Speaker 1>Fulton County violated a Georgia statute in handling of advanced

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<v Speaker 1>voting ahead of the November twenty twenty election, counting hundreds

1:12:13.040 --> 1:12:15.720
<v Speaker 1>of thousands of votes even though polling workers failed to

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<v Speaker 1>sign off on vote tabulation tapes critical to the certification process,

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<v Speaker 1>and now Fulton County has admitted to it. And Brumbaugh,

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<v Speaker 1>an attorney for Fulton County, told the told the board

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<v Speaker 1>and the hearing that while she has not seen the

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<v Speaker 1>tapes herself, the county does not dispute that the tapes

1:12:38.720 --> 1:12:41.360
<v Speaker 1>were not signed. It was a violation of the rule.

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<v Speaker 1>Since twenty twenty, we have new leadership and a new

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<v Speaker 1>building and a new board and a new standard. Since then,

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<v Speaker 1>the training has been enhanced, but we don't dispute the

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<v Speaker 1>allegations from the twenty twenty election. Georgia law requires that

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<v Speaker 1>election officials have each ballot scanner print these closing tapes

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of each voting day. Poll workers must

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<v Speaker 1>sign these tapes or include a documented reason for refusal.

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<v Speaker 1>Voting laws require poll workers to begin each day of

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<v Speaker 1>voting by printing and signing a zero tape showing that

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<v Speaker 1>the voting machines are starting at zero votes. If there's

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<v Speaker 1>no record of whether the tabulator was set at zero

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<v Speaker 1>at the start of the polling, there is no way

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<v Speaker 1>of telling whether ballots from a previous election or ballots

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<v Speaker 1>from a test run were left on the memory card

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<v Speaker 1>and might later be counted. Notably, this happened in Montana,

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<v Speaker 1>where officials discovered more votes than were cast and believe

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<v Speaker 1>the votes were left over sample data that had not

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<v Speaker 1>been cleared. So these machines that count the votes and

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<v Speaker 1>do all this stuff, it just seems to me they're

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<v Speaker 1>unnecessarily complicated, and you've got to jump through so many hoops,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the more moving parts you've got going on

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<v Speaker 1>to my way of thinking, the easier it is to

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<v Speaker 1>get in there and fiddle around with it. And so

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Hoff has been one of the very rare individuals

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<v Speaker 1>who looked at the twenty twenty election, saw the irregularities,

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<v Speaker 1>saw the fraud, and spoke out about it, and continues

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<v Speaker 1>to speak out about it. And now one by one

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<v Speaker 1>it's all coming to light that there was so much

1:14:38.520 --> 1:14:44.439
<v Speaker 1>fraudulent voting going on in the twenty twenty election, and

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<v Speaker 1>that you will you will never convince me that Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden got eighty one million votes and beat Trump in

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<v Speaker 1>that election. And how we looking now, how are you

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<v Speaker 1>enjoying this Trump compared to the Trump you might have

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<v Speaker 1>had in twenty twenty if you wouldn't have screwed around

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<v Speaker 1>with that election, who knows how different things would be,

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<v Speaker 1>How different would things be? There was an update on

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<v Speaker 1>the Minnesota fraud as it relates to the Somalian community

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<v Speaker 1>there in Minneapolis, and it's getting so bad now even

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<v Speaker 1>the Associated Press had to do a story on this,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Assodio Associated Press writes a half or more

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<v Speaker 1>of the roughly eighteen billion dollars in federal funds that

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<v Speaker 1>supported fourteen Minnesota run programs since twenty eighteen may have

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<v Speaker 1>been stolen. Okay, half or more of eighteen billion in

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen different Minnesota run programs may have been stolen. That's

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<v Speaker 1>nine billion dollars. First Assistant US Attorney Joe Thompson talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the scale of the fraud, and we've got a

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<v Speaker 1>SoundBite of him, and I want to play that. Now

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<v Speaker 1>here's a US attorney. Oh you know what I don't

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<v Speaker 1>This is a different scam. Wait a second, Wait a second,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a second. Oh yeah, Matt, that's a different one. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have the sound from this one, but this

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<v Speaker 1>US attorney Joe Thompson said the scale of the fraud

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<v Speaker 1>puts services at risk for people who need them, and

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<v Speaker 1>including adults leaving addiction treatment centers who need help finding

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<v Speaker 1>a stable place to live, children with autism, children who

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<v Speaker 1>really have autism, not the fake autism that was part

1:17:00.680 --> 1:17:03.920
<v Speaker 1>of this scam. So you had the feeding the hungry scam,

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<v Speaker 1>you had the autism scam, and you had the finding

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<v Speaker 1>homes for people with addiction and people at risk and

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<v Speaker 1>the elderly and all that sort of thing. Prosecutors typically

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<v Speaker 1>see fraud manifest as providers over billing. Thompson said during

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<v Speaker 1>a news conference in Minneapolis that companies have been created

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<v Speaker 1>to provide zero services, whilst of many claims to medicate

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<v Speaker 1>and pocketing federal funds for international travel, luxury vehicles, lavish lifestyles,

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<v Speaker 1>and we know there's a strong likelihood that some of

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<v Speaker 1>that money went to back to Somalia and while wind

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<v Speaker 1>up supporting a terrorist organization, Boko Haram. Investigators new findings

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<v Speaker 1>may bolster Donald Trump and his claims that Minnesota is

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<v Speaker 1>a quote hub of fraudulent any laundering activity under Governor

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<v Speaker 1>Tim Walls, who was the Democrat vice presidential nominee in

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<v Speaker 1>last year's election. I mean, think about that, if Tim

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<v Speaker 1>Walls was the vice president right now, would we be

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<v Speaker 1>hearing about any of this? And Kamala Harris is out

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<v Speaker 1>there on her book tour talking about how she's laying

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<v Speaker 1>the groundwork for another presidential run, how great she was

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<v Speaker 1>as vice president, how qualified she is to be the

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<v Speaker 1>president of the United States. And she goes in and

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<v Speaker 1>she goes on all these friendly interviews. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>one person's going to say, hey, well look at what

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<v Speaker 1>Tim for look at with Tim Walls, jazz hands, let

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<v Speaker 1>go on right under his nose. The AP article goes

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<v Speaker 1>on to talk about Trump, how he's capitalized on fraud cases,

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<v Speaker 1>the target the Somalia dysporia in Minnesota, the largest Somali

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<v Speaker 1>population in the US. Eighty two of ninety two defendants

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<v Speaker 1>and the child nutrition, housing services, and autism program scheme

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<v Speaker 1>are Somali. But you know, it's not right to call it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not right to call it out and say that

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<v Speaker 1>it's the Somalian community involved in this. That's really it's

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<v Speaker 1>just unfair. Eighty two of ninety two defendants are in

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<v Speaker 1>the Somali community. See Tim Wallas said we will not

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<v Speaker 1>tolerate fraud. That's funny. Let's see The announcement Thursday follows

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<v Speaker 1>years of investigation that began with the three hundred million

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<v Speaker 1>Feeding Our Future scheme, for which fifty seven defendants have

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<v Speaker 1>been victed. Prosecutor said Feeding our Future nonprofit was at

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<v Speaker 1>the center of the country's largest COVID nineteen related fraud scam,

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<v Speaker 1>roughly two dozen or so. Feeding our Future defendants for

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<v Speaker 1>getting money from autism clinics. That's how we learned about

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<v Speaker 1>the autism fraud. I mean, think of me. It's absolutely amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>all connected. But this prosecutor was out there talking today,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's my bet. I thought i'd cut up his

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<v Speaker 1>sound bite and put it on here, But he talked.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, this is He says, this is not a

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<v Speaker 1>handful of bad actors. It's a staggering, industrial scale fraud.

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<v Speaker 1>That is swamps Minnesota. Let's see. And he says fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>flag programs. Found those programs a cost Medicaid eighteen billions.

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<v Speaker 1>It's twenty eighteen, including more than three and a half

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<v Speaker 1>billion in twenty twenty four alone. Let's see. And so

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<v Speaker 1>they all the details of all these different people out there.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, it just keeps getting huge, going bigger

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<v Speaker 1>and bigger and bigger, and then we have this. We

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<v Speaker 1>know what that SNAP is, the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance program,

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<v Speaker 1>and so there was a it's not in Minnesota. Hold on,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's in Boston. Hold on, hold on, hold on?

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<v Speaker 1>What did I do with that? Let me see, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>two Haitian migrants. Federal prosecutors charged two Hatian migrants in

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<v Speaker 1>Massachusetts with a seven million dollar scam that was getting

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<v Speaker 1>money out of the out of SNAP. And federal prosecutors

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<v Speaker 1>unsealed a major fraud indictment wednesday, charging two Haitian immigrants

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<v Speaker 1>of operating a seven million dollar supplemental nutrition assistance program.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a benefit tracking scheme out of two small retail

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<v Speaker 1>storefronts in Boston's at Tapping neighborhood. And of course that

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<v Speaker 1>may or of Boston is a real winner. Total lib

1:22:24.000 --> 1:22:29.240
<v Speaker 1>total radical leftist, totally hates Trump, all in favor of

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<v Speaker 1>illegal aliens hanging out in Boston. And you want to

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<v Speaker 1>see the pictures of these so called grocery stores, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean they it. The one is smaller, they call it

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<v Speaker 1>a grocery store. It's smaller than the room I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in right now. And that that is, that is not

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<v Speaker 1>a joke. That is no lie. And it looks it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's filthy, it looks disease ridden. There there's open conas

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. I really don't see anything that you could

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<v Speaker 1>call groceries in there. But they said this was a

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<v Speaker 1>grocery store.

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<v Speaker 5>And uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And they ran seven million dollars with a fraud through

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<v Speaker 1>this grocery store. And this is the US attorney talking

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<v Speaker 1>about this, and she was pretty good on this. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>hear cut number two. This is on the Snap grocery

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<v Speaker 1>store scam fail.

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<v Speaker 9>Bonner and Saul at least may for large scale Snap

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<v Speaker 9>benefit trafficking, a scheme that turned a program designed to

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<v Speaker 9>feed families into a multi million dollar criminal enterprise. Stap

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<v Speaker 9>benefits are also known as food stamps. The defendants are

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<v Speaker 9>charged with one count of food stamp fraud. As allegend

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<v Speaker 9>in the charging documents, these men abuse one of the

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<v Speaker 9>government's most critical safety net programs for their own financial gain.

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<v Speaker 7>This is a tax.

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<v Speaker 9>This is taxpayer money meant to keep people from going hungry.

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<v Speaker 7>These defendants decided to take it for themselves.

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<v Speaker 9>These defendants exchanged SNAP benefits for cash, which they pocketed.

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<v Speaker 7>Bonner rational national.

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<v Speaker 9>Naturalized US citizen, from Haiti owned the Jessuela Variety store.

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<v Speaker 9>At least may a lawful permanent resident, also from Haiti

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<v Speaker 9>owned the Saoul Mache mix A store. These two businesses

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<v Speaker 9>were co located within a single storefront in Boston.

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<v Speaker 7>To be certain, these were not supermarkets. They were not

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<v Speaker 7>full service groceries.

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<v Speaker 9>It would be a huge stretch to even call them

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<v Speaker 9>convenience stores. In fact, the only thing convenient about these

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<v Speaker 9>stores was how easy it was to commit snap benefit fraud.

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<v Speaker 7>To put this in perspective, the Jusuela Variety.

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<v Speaker 9>Store is less than one hundred and fifty square feet

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<v Speaker 9>in size, smaller than some bathrooms. The Saoul Mache mix

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<v Speaker 9>A store was approximately five hundred square feet in space.

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<v Speaker 9>By contrast, a supermarket can be twenty thousand to sixty

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<v Speaker 9>thousand square feet.

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<v Speaker 7>In size, have a dozen or more.

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<v Speaker 9>Registers, and employ numerous employees. Both a Jsuela Variety and

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<v Speaker 9>sal Mache mix A stores had one register, no carriages,

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<v Speaker 9>no hand baskets, and very little food for sale. One

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<v Speaker 9>legitimate supermarket in the same area as these stores Redeems

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<v Speaker 9>approximately eighty thousand dollars in snap benefits per month over

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<v Speaker 9>the last twenty months. The Jusuela Variety store was redeeming

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<v Speaker 9>between three and six times that amount monthly, with nowhere

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<v Speaker 9>near the space, inventory, customers, or infrastructure to support it.

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<v Speaker 9>The sal Mache mix A store redeemed over one hundred

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<v Speaker 9>twenty thousand dollars in Snap benefits in the last six months.

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<v Speaker 9>Simply put, there is no plausible way SNAP eligible.

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<v Speaker 7>Food could have been purchased from these stores for this long.

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<v Speaker 9>Yet these two stores are alleged to have illicitly trafficked

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<v Speaker 9>nearly seven million dollars in Snap benefits.

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<v Speaker 7>The fraud was shocking and glaring.

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<v Speaker 1>So there you go. And I mean, and you want

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<v Speaker 1>to say that. The pictures of these stores, they're out

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<v Speaker 1>there on the internet. You can look them up if

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<v Speaker 1>you want. This one dude bon Air allegedly applied for

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<v Speaker 1>Snap benefits for himself, claiming he had zero income despite

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<v Speaker 1>owning a business raking in hundreds of thousands of dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a month in Snap redemptions. Investigators say he falsely claimed

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<v Speaker 1>no income other than Social Security, collected over ten eight

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars in Snap benefits. Every single Snap transaction on

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<v Speaker 1>his personal EBT card was conducted at his own store.

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<v Speaker 1>The other dude allegedly ran a similar operation out of

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<v Speaker 1>a slightly larger but still minuscule store about five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>square feet, which is probably smaller than your garage if

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<v Speaker 1>you have a garage at home, I mean thing you

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<v Speaker 1>think about that, Could you run a grocery store out

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<v Speaker 1>of your garage? I don't know. Despite minimal inventory un

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<v Speaker 1>limited eligible food items, the store reportedly trafficked over one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty one thousand dollars of SNAP benefits in

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<v Speaker 1>just a few months it opened to twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I'm very industrious. Of these two, one dude

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<v Speaker 1>is like seventy something years old, the other dude's seventy four,

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<v Speaker 1>and the other dude's twenty one. So this guy was

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<v Speaker 1>learning from his mentor and how to rip off the government.

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<v Speaker 1>So then good work by those US attorneys. Seven million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in Snap from the from the Boston area, another

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<v Speaker 1>liberal Democrat, and the corruption just goes on eleven twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five news coming up at the bottom of the hour.

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<v Speaker 1>We rolled till midnight tonight five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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<v Speaker 1>seven thousand, eight hundred, the big one on seven hundred

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<v Speaker 1>wom