Speaker 1: Do you want to be in a Mexican All right,
Speaker 1: here we go Scott's long back half of the week.
Speaker 1: It's all good, seven hundred wlw is. The rain just
Speaker 1: continues to hammer us right now. If your basement is
Speaker 1: not not wet, you're lucky. You're lucky. Six days now
Speaker 1: in the Iran War, more Americans disapprove than approve. The
Speaker 1: MAGA coalition is fracturing, somewhat, Democrats are fracturing somewhat. Congress
Speaker 1: is paralyzed. The White House still can't explain why we're
Speaker 1: fighting in the first place. And the poll numbers aren't good.
Speaker 1: So we'll do a little bit of a dive on
Speaker 1: that one this morning with Kevin Burton. Kevin with Crosstown
Speaker 1: Consulting here in Cincinnati. How are you, buddy, pretty good
Speaker 1: by yourself. I'm doing fine. I'm doing fine. Yeah, your
Speaker 1: basement's not the only thing underwater right now. So latest
Speaker 1: poll numbers here, and this is impacting the midterm elections
Speaker 1: and of course control of Congress, balance of power, all
Speaker 1: those things. Fox News pulling shows the most favorable split
Speaker 1: is only at fifty percent approval. Fifty percent approval rating,
Speaker 1: you'll take it, right, But even than that. Within the
Speaker 1: Fox News poll, there's only what only forty percent of
Speaker 1: independence are on board with the war in Iran. CNN
Speaker 1: shows a fifty nine percent disapproval rate, Augov dot Pole
Speaker 1: shows a forty eight percent disapproval rate, only like three
Speaker 1: at one and three approved in that poll. So overall,
Speaker 1: nearly six and tens are over six and ten Americans
Speaker 1: are against action in Iraq. And it's obviously a huge
Speaker 1: partisan divide as well. So that is the lay of
Speaker 1: the land right now. And we've got the Texas midterms
Speaker 1: going on, which generally I don't pay too much attention
Speaker 1: to because I live in Ohio, you live in Kentucky, Kevin.
Speaker 1: But overall, right now, this is not a it's not
Speaker 1: a good look for the White House. Polling shows this disapproval.
Speaker 1: So does that typically harden or soften as a military
Speaker 1: operation of folds because we're in the first few days
Speaker 1: of this and we don't know how much longer it's
Speaker 1: going to go. But do the numbers get worse from
Speaker 1: this point out?
Speaker 2: I mean, the only thing that we can look back
Speaker 2: on is both you know, Biden pulling out from Afghanistan
Speaker 2: and then George W. Bush, right, because both of those
Speaker 2: are in recent memories, and both of those hurt both presidents.
Speaker 2: Going forward, now, the one question is is this something
Speaker 2: that is a three to four week operation or is
Speaker 2: this something that's going to be a quagmire. You know,
Speaker 2: like if if troops go, I think there's something around
Speaker 2: like twelve to fifteen percent of Americans when actual sent troops. Uh,
Speaker 2: then I think you're going to be looking at a
Speaker 2: two thousand and eight style wipeout for the Republicans. If
Speaker 2: this is just a quick operation, maybe no harm, no
Speaker 2: foul yet.
Speaker 1: Like Obama, Obama didn't hurt him. Obama came me boo boom, Morain,
Speaker 1: we're out this. So it's if it's days, we're okay.
Speaker 1: If it's weeks, different start, if it's months, forget about it.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, that's that's the perfect way to say it.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: And Trump is non committal on this whole thing, of course. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's and that's not good. Look, I think that's not
Speaker 1: good if you're Republican. Right now, the Fox News poll
Speaker 1: shows a more favorable flip than CNN, you gover the
Speaker 1: other ones. Now, well, how do you explain that gap?
Speaker 1: I mean, typically, well, it's because it's a right leading.
Speaker 1: You know, they're going to make Trump look good, but
Speaker 1: that's not always the case.
Speaker 2: No, And also it's their sample size. So some poles
Speaker 2: will do like five are roughly around five hundred. Other
Speaker 2: poles will do thirteen hundred, Other poles will do twenty
Speaker 2: seven hundred, which obviously if you do more people, the
Speaker 2: pole is going to be better. You know, poles are random,
Speaker 2: it's completely random, but like you will just randomly get a.
Speaker 4: Bad sub section of poles.
Speaker 2: So it's always important when you're looking at poles to
Speaker 2: take the aggregate aggregate of all of them because that's
Speaker 2: generally where it's going to lie most in the middle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and people will say, well, I mean Trump is
Speaker 1: you know, he never was able to fit in that
Speaker 1: bucket anyway, because trying to measure his supporters is really
Speaker 1: really tough. But was more of was that more of
Speaker 1: a one off or a couple times of post to
Speaker 1: again of water always comes back to level, right, is
Speaker 1: that the case?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 1: It's like yeah, pretty much, Now we were pretty good
Speaker 1: at measuring Trump supporters.
Speaker 2: Well so Trump in twenty sixteen, they couldn't measure them
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty. Remember it was Democrats have to be
Speaker 2: up seven points nationally in the polls for that to
Speaker 2: correlate to a.
Speaker 5: General election will win.
Speaker 2: The Harris poll was basically fifty to fifty the whole time,
Speaker 2: give or take, so that one wasn't as shocking. So, yes,
Speaker 2: polling has gotten better, but there still is the undercurrent
Speaker 2: of rural America just pulling just hasn't quite figured that
Speaker 2: out yet. Yes, they've gotten better. It's it's way better
Speaker 2: than twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen. But at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, independents are going to dictate who wins the
Speaker 2: House the Senate later this.
Speaker 1: Year, gotcha, all right? So we know that elections are
Speaker 1: won in the middle Independent disapproval rating anywhere between fifty
Speaker 1: five and near seventy percent, depending on the poll, And
Speaker 1: that is the one that you've got to be looking
Speaker 1: at and be really nervous about right now if you're
Speaker 1: a Republican in those numbers. But do you see opportunity
Speaker 1: there as a Democrat and can they capitalize not that's
Speaker 1: a big question.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean Democrats have kind of just been lost
Speaker 2: in the wilderness for the last honestly decade trying to
Speaker 2: figure out a strategy they just can't figure out Trump.
Speaker 2: But the one thing that can think of presidency faster
Speaker 2: than anything is an unpopular war decision, you KNOWLBJ add
Speaker 2: to that with Biden. So if you're Democrats, But to
Speaker 2: your point, roughly about twenty percent of Democrats actually support this,
Speaker 2: So it's actually very fascinating why twenty three percent of
Speaker 2: Republicans disapprove of this.
Speaker 4: So it's it's still.
Speaker 2: Very very early. I think there's a lot of people.
Speaker 2: If you are a millennial, you grew up with the
Speaker 2: Iraq and Afghanistan war, so you understand that. I think
Speaker 2: if you're under thirty five, you don't probably really understand,
Speaker 2: you know, watching the news every day, seeing you know,
Speaker 2: soldiers and things that. So I think it's all is
Speaker 2: this Obama Libya where you know, bomb bombomb quick over
Speaker 2: no troops or is this the Iraq war?
Speaker 1: George Bush, I think it's got to be fat right.
Speaker 5: Is that okay? We we thought there.
Speaker 1: I mean we've been talking about Iran getting nukes and
Speaker 1: weaponizing since the nineties. I mean, is it clear and
Speaker 1: present danger? I don't know if I buy that, but
Speaker 1: I'm fine with them taking out Comani because of what
Speaker 1: not only one of the people, but because of the
Speaker 1: whole regime, and maybe you don't go and take the
Speaker 1: country over and try and rebuild it in your own likeness,
Speaker 1: because that doesn't work. We're horrible at regime change. We're
Speaker 1: just terrible at it. But going and cutting the head
Speaker 1: and decapitating it and then taking out these strategic sites,
Speaker 1: making them start all over again, and instead of maybe
Speaker 1: having nuclear power in ten years, it's you've set them
Speaker 1: back a couple more decades at least. I think most
Speaker 1: Americans are fine with that. It's just a protracted war.
Speaker 1: We don't want if he winds up getting in getting out,
Speaker 1: do we see those approval rating skyrocket then?
Speaker 2: And that's the great unknown, you know, if this is
Speaker 2: a quick successful operation, yeah, it's very possible. But I
Speaker 2: think at this point with Trump, Tizer, Doug dug In,
Speaker 2: you know, it's all about the independence. And so that's
Speaker 2: about ten to fifteen percent of the voting Democrats aren't going
Speaker 2: to move, Republicans aren't going to move on this a
Speaker 2: lot so.
Speaker 5: And it depends.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the MAGA coalition was built on anti interventionism
Speaker 1: and other things too that Trump has like turned his
Speaker 1: back on, and he looks like he's turning his back
Speaker 1: here and you have defections from you know, people like
Speaker 1: Megan Kelly and Tucker Calls and others that broke Trump.
Speaker 5: How significant is that at this point?
Speaker 2: You know, I mean, those are some key stakeholders that
Speaker 2: are against it because you know, he did promise no
Speaker 2: more wars and we are in a different war. It
Speaker 2: seems like every other week.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I think Americans, especially like what we were just talking about.
Speaker 2: If millennials or gen X, you've grown up with war
Speaker 2: your whole entire life, you understand the magnitude of it
Speaker 2: that it's not something that you take lightly, both with
Speaker 2: the loss of life and financial I don't think, what
Speaker 2: is it about ninety percent of Americans don't want to
Speaker 2: send troops. So you know, we got to see what
Speaker 2: the president and his team does. It's still very early.
Speaker 2: We're six days in. You know, Yes, it was a
Speaker 2: very successful thing to get rid of the ISA toola.
Speaker 2: What does that translate to? And how many lives of
Speaker 2: you know, American servicemen.
Speaker 5: Does that dictate it?
Speaker 1: It's still very very early, right, we had Congress of course,
Speaker 1: striking out the warparwers our solution, Greg Landsman voted no
Speaker 1: on that, and I'd imagine he's facing now more primary
Speaker 1: threats from the left. And you look at that district,
Speaker 1: but also overall, progressive groups are threatening to prim at
Speaker 1: Democrats like Landsman who voted against war powers. So how
Speaker 1: effective has that strategy historically been a changing incumbent voting behavior.
Speaker 2: Well, so there was actually a very contested grace in
Speaker 2: North Carolina really about this and about a PAC and
Speaker 2: the incumbent barely held on.
Speaker 5: But you're really seeing.
Speaker 2: Democrats who have gotten donations from a PAC. They are
Speaker 2: getting primary and they're being very contentious. You know, I
Speaker 2: think democrats finally know that for primaries.
Speaker 5: It's a negative thing. Yeah, if you.
Speaker 2: Support Trump in any way, and I'm not saying that's good, bad,
Speaker 2: or indifferent, but if you support Trump in a primary,
Speaker 2: it's costly.
Speaker 6: Mm.
Speaker 1: We'll we'll see. Obviously it's a threat to from Republicans
Speaker 1: as well. You know, the Texas primaries just happened, and
Speaker 1: that should a massive Democratic turnout in a Surgeon and
Speaker 1: Latino heavy counties there, and that's a demographic Trump made
Speaker 1: pretty significant inroads with it in the last election cycle.
Speaker 1: Is that a is that an inroad for Democrats there.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you can, if you can flip to
Speaker 1: parts of or Texas blue, that that's that's absolutely massive.
Speaker 1: Is that durable or is that just a brief reaction
Speaker 1: what's happening in Iran.
Speaker 2: So Texas is the white whale for Democrats.
Speaker 5: That always has been.
Speaker 2: I think most people would agree, regardless of what you think.
Speaker 2: James tel Rico is a very talented or it's ortator.
Speaker 2: You know, he's smooth, he's organic, and authenticity is I
Speaker 2: think the biggest thing that comes through with him, and
Speaker 2: just generally I think with the American people, authenticity is
Speaker 2: the number one thing that voters are looking for, regardless
Speaker 2: of what you know. So people are tired of, you know,
Speaker 2: growing up in the early two thousands nineties, it was
Speaker 2: almost like a sitcom politician, you know, like no, people
Speaker 2: just want someone who's authentic. So for Texas and the
Speaker 2: Latina thing is it's a combination of ice, it's a
Speaker 2: combination of rising prices and then also James Telerga talks
Speaker 2: about faith, which the Latin community is usually more religious.
Speaker 2: So for the Democrats to take back House, it's gonna
Speaker 2: or the Senate, it's gonna be really really impossible. They
Speaker 2: basically have to run the table. It's gonna be about
Speaker 2: a forty five to forty nine breakdown. And then there's
Speaker 2: six Senate races to watch, so Ohio, Texas, Michigan.
Speaker 5: North Carolina foret to the other two.
Speaker 2: But really those four they would have they would have
Speaker 2: to win all four of these, and that's that's a
Speaker 2: tall order because also fundraising for Democrats are lagging drastically
Speaker 2: behind Republicans.
Speaker 5: And the interesting thing.
Speaker 2: Is Texas down is actually probably a better bet than
Speaker 2: even Ohio with how the poll numbers are looking.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, if Kevin Burton is here, he's with Crosstown Consulting
Speaker 1: in northern Kentucky. He's an upholster and political analyst talking
Speaker 1: about the poll numbers coming out of and you know,
Speaker 1: at odds with we're talking about the Texas and of
Speaker 1: course he wore in Iran right now and the most
Speaker 1: favorable pullings from Fox it shows fifty percent approval rating
Speaker 1: on this, but all the other ones he's Trump is
Speaker 1: underwater on mainly with the you know, certainly a lot
Speaker 1: of progressive all the progressives are you know, they're going
Speaker 1: to vote, you know, how conservatives are but really underwater
Speaker 1: with the middle and that's what wins and loses elections
Speaker 1: right there. And part of this problem, though is the
Speaker 1: messaging on Iran Kevin it's it's it's just incoherent. You know,
Speaker 1: there's no clear endgame, the rationale shift, we have contradictory timelines.
Speaker 1: It is an unmitigated mess. As far as the reason
Speaker 1: why we're doing this now, Trump is saying one thing,
Speaker 1: He's got Rubio saying another. No one knows up from
Speaker 1: down in this How much is that really driving these numbers?
Speaker 5: Well a lot.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, George W. Bush spent a year
Speaker 2: laying out his case right for the Iraq war, and
Speaker 2: when we went to Iraq there was a pretty big approval.
Speaker 2: Then you look at Biden who just kind of pulled
Speaker 2: the rug out and there was no plan and he
Speaker 2: never recovered from that. So the American people understand that
Speaker 2: if there is going to be a war, there needs
Speaker 2: to be a there needs to be a game plan.
Speaker 2: You can't be winged. And that's the number one thing.
Speaker 7: You know, their.
Speaker 2: Messaging has been all over the point so far. You know,
Speaker 2: take a deep breath, collect your thoughts, orchestrate the narrative.
Speaker 2: And then tell the American people, then it'll probably have
Speaker 2: their poll numbers.
Speaker 1: If this goes closer to November then March and it's
Speaker 1: still ongoing, what does that tell you about the effect
Speaker 1: on the House and Senate races and what might happen.
Speaker 2: I mean, you don't have to be a political consultant
Speaker 2: to know if we're if we're in a war and
Speaker 2: it's a non popular war, it's going to be good.
Speaker 6: For the Democrats.
Speaker 4: It just is.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, if it's a quick rip the mandate off,
Speaker 2: you can recover from that.
Speaker 5: But if if this is a long war.
Speaker 2: With troops and spending billions of dollars, you know, with
Speaker 2: all the problems that Democrats have in their leadership, even
Speaker 2: they probably can't screw that up.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well I wanted to leave our discussion Kevin Burton,
Speaker 1: because you're a friend. I wanted to leave you with
Speaker 1: a with an empty net goal or a layup if
Speaker 1: it were to a nice easy one to end the conversation.
Speaker 1: Kevin Burton at Crosstown Consulting in Northern Kentucky. Thanks again,
Speaker 1: brother be will thank you for always all right, take care.
Speaker 5: News on the way. At about five, the weather.
Speaker 1: Continues, we got rain, rain and more rain, when will
Speaker 1: if we will and maybe will we get a break?
Speaker 5: Who knows?
Speaker 1: Full forecast seconds away, And we'll continue to follow. What's
Speaker 1: happening in Iran right now and Texas is a really
Speaker 1: interesting indicator of how things may go in right now
Speaker 1: now again in a few days versus a few months.
Speaker 1: I think that is survival and probably what we should
Speaker 1: be doing at this point. If this thing drags out
Speaker 1: and God forbid we start going a well, we need to.
Speaker 1: We need some expeditionary forces there, so they would call them.
Speaker 1: You wonder how many people who voted for Trump who
Speaker 1: continues the boredom but just simply turned their back on them.
Speaker 1: I know quite a few people fall into that category.
Speaker 1: A brief strike is fine, but dragging this thing out,
Speaker 1: you're just absolutely bearing yourself. Scott Sloan Show, seven hundred W.
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Speaker 5: It is going to be wet for the next it
Speaker 5: feels like maybe thirty years. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: he's everywhere all that. He's like like Kevin Hart to
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Speaker 5: What's going on?
Speaker 7: My guy?
Speaker 1: You good, good buddy? How are you doing good? I'm
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Speaker 1: You're gonna be out of a job soon.
Speaker 6: Yes, thank you.
Speaker 1: I need you need the Why are you playing Cincinnati
Speaker 1: on a Saturday? I need the money?
Speaker 8: Can I just tell you something?
Speaker 3: And everybody listening? Yeah, this interaction right now, everybody is
Speaker 3: why Scott doesn't have any friends. Okay, this is how
Speaker 3: a friend supports a friend.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be instance that I'm doing two things.
Speaker 3: I will be cutting lawns as well to make the
Speaker 3: extra money good, just to cover myself.
Speaker 1: You tell your car walk your dog. Hey, you know
Speaker 1: what twenty bucks is? Twenty bucks? It's worked for Kevin Hard,
Speaker 1: hasn't it.
Speaker 8: Yes, he's a poor guy.
Speaker 6: He's just he's barely got two nickels to rub.
Speaker 1: Yeh, poor poor guy. Like, who's the most over export
Speaker 1: exposed comic in the world?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 5: Is it Kevin Hart?
Speaker 9: Right now?
Speaker 5: You think is anyone else?
Speaker 7: More?
Speaker 8: Might be, but it might be. But I think you
Speaker 8: know he's.
Speaker 6: A good guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you commercial the good Yeah, but you know he
Speaker 3: could throw a huge he could throw a few shekels
Speaker 3: my way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right right, he's funny as hell too. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know the spots he does with Lebron. Lebron is
Speaker 1: very underrated, by the way, she should be doing stand up.
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, listen, I got enough competition.
Speaker 6: Buddy, back off. Okay, I said she made it. It's difficult.
Speaker 6: My mother.
Speaker 8: I got my mother to deal with.
Speaker 6: It's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: How is your mom? By the way, she's.
Speaker 3: You know, she just turned ninety five, right, and we
Speaker 3: had to uh yeah, she will not go down. We
Speaker 3: try everything, Uh, you know, sour milk, your trip her.
Speaker 3: She bounces back off like a little Italian weebel. No,
Speaker 3: you know, she's like, you have everybody out there as
Speaker 3: a parent. That's like she's just a handful. She started
Speaker 3: a business in nineteen sixty nine as a woman when
Speaker 3: people were telling her she should stay home and cook
Speaker 3: and clean, very progressive. She we just made her retire
Speaker 3: and closed her business after sixty three years, and she's mad,
Speaker 3: like she doesn't want to be retired.
Speaker 6: She goes, what am I going to do?
Speaker 3: I go on, man, you got some money, you could travel.
Speaker 3: You could go to the senior center.
Speaker 6: She goes, I'm not going to go there. Those people
Speaker 6: are old, like they're old. Well, you're ninety six. What
Speaker 6: are you gonna go skydiving with sailors with?
Speaker 3: You're old and you can't like no matter, no matter
Speaker 3: how comfortable these people get that from that generation. She
Speaker 3: grew up in a depression. She would not spend money,
Speaker 3: got to try to great. She finds stuff in the garbage,
Speaker 3: Like on Sunday night, she'll be driving and she'll see
Speaker 3: something in the garbage. She'll take it and she gesn't
Speaker 3: a guy named Mario who fixes it. So she found
Speaker 3: her hearing aid in the garbage. You take her for
Speaker 3: a walk. Within three minutes, you have a pack of
Speaker 3: dogs following you.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 8: So it's like and she had this way of running
Speaker 8: her business.
Speaker 6: It was like from another planet.
Speaker 8: Right, So she you know, you have a business, you have.
Speaker 3: Filing cabinet, you have paperwork. But no, no, no, she
Speaker 3: don't want to spend money on filing cabinets. So she
Speaker 3: has coolers gyrophone coolers that she bought at Walmart. And
Speaker 3: then she writes on the outside with in the cooler
Speaker 3: and she puts her different paperwork and like ten different cools.
Speaker 3: When she gets audited, looks like she's going on a picnic. Okay,
Speaker 3: It's just it's.
Speaker 1: It's like I could just picture her office, Paul. It
Speaker 1: looks like in everyone's office is this way. When the
Speaker 1: like the FBI comes in to do a raid, it's
Speaker 1: always in disarray.
Speaker 5: Like if you watch those cops. You ever noticed, like
Speaker 5: watching all of.
Speaker 1: Those detective show where somebody gets murdered, I get down
Speaker 1: rabbit holes and no one has like everyone who gets
Speaker 1: murdered or murder has a clean house.
Speaker 5: It's always an a.
Speaker 6: God, how how do you know?
Speaker 3: Like literally, she'd have like catalogs backed up of different furniture, right,
Speaker 3: and she'd be like, oh, I think I know what
Speaker 3: she's like. And then all of a sudden, like in
Speaker 3: the middle of a stack, there's a ham sandwich from
Speaker 3: five eight years ago.
Speaker 6: Right, but man, you hit it on the head.
Speaker 3: So this was our house growing up, right, because the
Speaker 3: focus of our lives was this score.
Speaker 6: So like you think of town, we're Italian.
Speaker 3: Besides time you think Italian, you think you know the
Speaker 3: super neat house, the plastic on the furniture, you know that.
Speaker 1: Whole lot of gold, a lot of gold, a lot
Speaker 1: of gold, a.
Speaker 5: Lot, a lot of lot of gold.
Speaker 1: I'm Italian. I get a lot of gold, a lot
Speaker 1: of gold, a lot of garlic.
Speaker 8: Smells everything smells the garlic.
Speaker 5: There you go.
Speaker 3: So so our house was the opposite. It was literally
Speaker 3: like you just described, it was just like a Cso
Speaker 3: I see, like this was insane.
Speaker 1: And your mom still going, I think that's fantastic. Ninety
Speaker 1: six years old, salute.
Speaker 6: Oh come on stockeso, Oh my god. Yeah.
Speaker 3: You go into a refrigerator you want to get like
Speaker 3: some half and half to your carver.
Speaker 6: What do I look to the right. The entire door
Speaker 6: is filled with batteries, batteries, and I'm like, mom, what
Speaker 6: are you doing.
Speaker 3: She goes, well, these new bet no, they're old batteries,
Speaker 3: and she's trying to recharge them by putting them in
Speaker 3: the refrigerator. She's like cryogenically freezing batteries until they come
Speaker 3: back to life, like some mad scientists like she.
Speaker 6: We had to take her license away. You want to
Speaker 6: know why why she hit a tree with her car?
Speaker 6: You know where the tree was?
Speaker 8: In her own front yard?
Speaker 6: Man, she hit a tree in her own front yard.
Speaker 5: Okay, the fact your mom's ninety six.
Speaker 1: For guys, I don't know how because my people are
Speaker 1: Italian too, and you look at the food that we eat, pizza, spaghetti,
Speaker 1: and a lot of cheese and oil and more cheese,
Speaker 1: and the lunch meat alone, right, more than Della, you
Speaker 1: got pursued it.
Speaker 5: You got all this fatty, high fat, color.
Speaker 1: Awful food that tells you you're gonna die if you
Speaker 1: eat this stuff.
Speaker 5: And yet she's ninety six, God bless her.
Speaker 1: I don't know how Italians, because you know you're you're
Speaker 1: bringing back childhood memories here for me, how Italians live longer?
Speaker 5: Like I can't believe we make it til sixteen.
Speaker 1: Nice, It's like all the preservatives and just I don't
Speaker 1: know what it is.
Speaker 3: The cheeses and the fats, and then the bread, and
Speaker 3: here have some bread with your bread and the pasta,
Speaker 3: and then have pasta with your Like, how do you like?
Speaker 3: My mother got a health kicked for a little while,
Speaker 3: and she was like putting raisins and things like. She
Speaker 3: was like she like put them in an apple pot,
Speaker 3: and like we just eat it. You don't listen to me.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing about raisins. You don't put raisins in
Speaker 3: an oatmealk cookie. You don't put them in a muffin.
Speaker 3: You know where you put them. You put them in
Speaker 3: the toilet. Okay, they're raisin. Okay, think about it. What's
Speaker 3: a raisin? A raisin is just a grape that couldn't
Speaker 3: cut it as a grape. Okay, I mean right, I.
Speaker 6: Didn't like you as a pretty red grape. I'm gonna
Speaker 6: like you as a wrinkly brown raisin.
Speaker 8: Come on, they put.
Speaker 3: Them in that red box with that young girl on
Speaker 3: the outside. You look inside. It's an old asi home
Speaker 3: for fruit. That's all it is.
Speaker 5: That's all it is. Oh that's good. I'm gonna steal that.
Speaker 5: That's really that's You can't know it. Yeah, it's like yeah, right,
Speaker 5: it's and the other thing.
Speaker 3: The other thing my mother would do was like because
Speaker 3: we had no money, like we had money, but she
Speaker 3: pretended like we did. We were fine, like we were
Speaker 3: you know, middle class, we had a business. We weren't
Speaker 3: we're super rich, we refined. But she was always like
Speaker 3: nickel and diamond, right, so Christmas, she or Bertha, she
Speaker 3: would always like try to pass off something like cheap
Speaker 3: as something like high end.
Speaker 6: And so like one time she gave me she could go.
Speaker 3: By the way and like didn't even care about sizes,
Speaker 3: like she'd give you. She'd give you like a triple xcel.
Speaker 3: It's like dragging on the floor for a sweater because
Speaker 3: it was on sale at TJ.
Speaker 4: Mack.
Speaker 6: And so so she gives me, she goes, look I
Speaker 6: got you. I got you a Ralph Laudden PULLU sweater.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh wow, this is like the ruff
Speaker 3: and I look closer in the you know, the little
Speaker 3: emblem instead of like a jock on a horse with
Speaker 3: like the mallet. It was a knockoff, okay it was.
Speaker 3: It was an eight year old kid on a great
Speaker 3: thing with a broom. Okay, that's what the emblem.
Speaker 1: But it's about the mail you. It's it's oh, that's
Speaker 1: all that is.
Speaker 5: That's awesome, it is.
Speaker 6: Don't tell me always like the thought that comes. No,
Speaker 6: I want good gifts.
Speaker 5: Okay, that's right, you got You're you're gonna be what Yeah, And.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna and I'm yeah, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna like so why I'm my sister in law.
Speaker 3: Whenever my birthday's coming, I know what I'm getting from
Speaker 3: her because she's so she she gives me every birthday
Speaker 3: and every Christmas, and she gives me she gives me
Speaker 3: a two dollars lottery ticket, a two dollars lottery ticket. Okay, nothing,
Speaker 3: Scott says, I care about you less than a one
Speaker 3: in four hundred million chance of getting a gift.
Speaker 6: And then and then she I'm not making this up.
Speaker 6: She put it in a greeting card. And the greeting
Speaker 6: card was eight dollars.
Speaker 4: The card was.
Speaker 3: Four times the price of the gift.
Speaker 4: And people are fired.
Speaker 1: I know people in my family they get the scratch offs,
Speaker 1: and it's I don't get the scratch off thing to me.
Speaker 5: I don't get It's just they're just messy, losing tickets.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, all you're doing is like,
Speaker 3: here's something you probably won't get a gift out of it.
Speaker 6: And if you do, I'm gonna sue you for half
Speaker 6: of it. Like that's the gift. You're giving me a lawsuit.
Speaker 6: You're giving me a frigging lawsuit.
Speaker 5: Facts, absolute facts. That is fantastic.
Speaker 1: All right, you're in New York. You're doing Colbert. That's
Speaker 1: that's wrapping up. You screwed that up? Yeah, what's expect
Speaker 1: You got any specials come up?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 6: We're doing well.
Speaker 3: I've got this Broadway off Broadway show that I've been doing,
Speaker 3: directed by Frank Oz called Permission to Speak, that we're
Speaker 3: taking out on tour. We were doing it in the
Speaker 3: city and uh so that's the and and then also
Speaker 3: going to bring it to uh to a platform, uh
Speaker 3: probably Apple TV. It's looking like but we or Netflix
Speaker 3: and it's been great, you know, and the city has
Speaker 3: been They got this thing now with the city though, it's.
Speaker 6: Just like bikes. Bloomberg was our mayor and he put
Speaker 6: bike lanes in everywhere. I don't know if you've got
Speaker 6: that in Cincinnati now.
Speaker 8: A lot of yeah, okay, well, you know what here's
Speaker 8: the thing.
Speaker 3: About people on a bike. Okay, you know what, I
Speaker 3: don't like you. I don't like you, and I'm never
Speaker 3: gonna like you. And here's why. Because bikers are obnoxious.
Speaker 3: They want it both ways. They want to violate every
Speaker 3: traffic log. Go the wrong direction, go through on this,
Speaker 3: you go through an intersection, okay, but god forbid, if
Speaker 3: you're walking or you're driving and you like make one
Speaker 3: little mistake, they scream at you.
Speaker 6: Okay, I don't like you.
Speaker 3: Want to buy And guys who ride bike, here's a
Speaker 3: little tip for you. Stop wearing those sausage casing shorts
Speaker 3: that are so tight okay that the fattest spilling over.
Speaker 6: You're not lay its armstrong. Just wear loose shorts. Wear
Speaker 6: loose shorts.
Speaker 3: You're a middle Asian surance salesman who lives in the suburbs.
Speaker 6: That's what you are. You're not going to be anythymore.
Speaker 1: We have the problem with people no one hundred percent
Speaker 1: about like when they want to be a bicycle, it's
Speaker 1: then it's bicycle rules. But then sometimes like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be a car and go through that, you know, turn
Speaker 1: right on red or whatever and cut out in the middle.
Speaker 1: Driving down the L one hundred percent is like either
Speaker 1: your a bike or your car.
Speaker 5: Pick one. Yes, right, stay little, stay and stay in
Speaker 5: you no abuddy.
Speaker 1: Paul mccurio, nationally common actional turn comic, also a Colbert Shows.
Speaker 1: We've been joking about it's gonna be a Go Banana.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a wet weekend. It's wet in
Speaker 1: New York.
Speaker 5: It's wet.
Speaker 1: It's wet everywhere right now, looking to do something inside
Speaker 1: tomorrow and Saturday at Go Banana's.
Speaker 7: Uh, go.
Speaker 5: Banana? What the hell's the website? You're getting the right webtion?
Speaker 8: Okay, this is how you host the show.
Speaker 5: Really, you know, No, there's no one listening.
Speaker 1: I think I don't even know if I'm it's really weird.
Speaker 1: I mean you Here's the thing about stand up right
Speaker 1: and having some experience doing it, is you get instant feedback. Right,
Speaker 1: you say something that's funny or like make people gasp,
Speaker 1: and you get this ray. I sit in a room
Speaker 1: Paul by myself for three hours and I talk. I
Speaker 1: have no idea if they even pay the electric bill,
Speaker 1: like if this is going out on the stream or on.
Speaker 5: The top whatever it is. I mean, I do this.
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe I get a phone call once in a while
Speaker 1: to to validate myself, but generally I just sit here
Speaker 1: in a boxer. It's the stupidest job for growing mad.
Speaker 1: I mean, a complete dumb ass for like thirty years. No,
Speaker 1: but you're great at it.
Speaker 3: Com On, you know, listen, I know we you know,
Speaker 3: we all feel bad for you.
Speaker 6: So that's what you So.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, you know you got your last
Speaker 1: gut ba, I'll get Marcia. Okay, he'll do anything, You'll
Speaker 1: do anything exactly anything, but.
Speaker 8: You know, you know, I mean, the comedy is fine.
Speaker 3: And then you know from from doing standing up and
Speaker 3: stuff like some stuff you write and it takes forever,
Speaker 3: and then stuff stuff, some stuff just comes to you
Speaker 3: and you get lucky. Like I was thinking, like the
Speaker 3: other day, I don't know, like I needed to use
Speaker 3: some basoline and I'm like, and then it hit me, like,
Speaker 3: how do people make vasoline make any money? I've had
Speaker 3: the same tub of vasoline for like thirty right, think
Speaker 3: of people listening right now, think about it, Like my
Speaker 3: basoline was handed down to me by my grandfather in
Speaker 3: a will. You've never heard this phrase uttered ever in
Speaker 3: the history of mankind.
Speaker 6: Honey, I'm going out to get more vasoline. You you could.
Speaker 3: Go through thirty thousand bags of garbage. You're not going
Speaker 3: to find one emptycause they.
Speaker 6: Are a vassiline.
Speaker 7: You're not.
Speaker 5: Doesn't spoil it.
Speaker 3: I greased my brakes with basoline. I still have eighty
Speaker 3: percent containing which packs.
Speaker 5: The question, how are they still in business? They don't
Speaker 5: sell anything new?
Speaker 6: Exactly right, it's.
Speaker 5: Still you can go.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's vaseline and has anyone ever shopped for vasolene?
Speaker 5: I don't think I ever have.
Speaker 3: Mine has a brown label on it to go crinkly
Speaker 3: and I'm falling off.
Speaker 5: It's like that amber glass.
Speaker 1: Like the apothecaries and have the drugs and they mister
Speaker 1: Goward mix it up in the back.
Speaker 6: It's like, what a great reference.
Speaker 1: All right, Paul, I got you gotta I know you
Speaker 1: gotta get going, buddy.
Speaker 5: I appreciate you. Man have fun macurial kills. He's funny.
Speaker 1: If you if you're looking for something to do Tomorrow
Speaker 1: and Saturday night, go Banata Scott Sloan Show seven hundred
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Speaker 1: of fact, but hey, you got something to do.
Speaker 5: They go to Coco. See my buddy, Paul.
Speaker 1: Mccurial, thanks for our friends at Dorothy Lane Market. I've
Speaker 1: told you about made right here. When it comes to
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Speaker 1: They have real pitmasters and seafood experts and everything out.
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Speaker 1: green beans are excellent, and we crushed the crusty mac
Speaker 1: and cheese and homestyle coleslaw as well. Also, they brought
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Speaker 1: the way, I picked one of these things up. I
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Speaker 1: I mean it's regular, what's a pie, nine inch pie,
Speaker 1: crust warm, and you pick it up like weighs forty pounds.
Speaker 1: It's insane and if you think that's saying, it tastes
Speaker 1: insanely good too. So Dorothy Lane Market, thanks again Dorothy
Speaker 1: Lane dot com if you haven't been there. It is
Speaker 1: a treat for your mouth. A good thing to do
Speaker 1: this weekend, perhaps too because it's inside, other than running
Speaker 1: from the car to the inside. But you got your cover.
Speaker 5: They're working.
Speaker 1: I actually making it somehow when you walk from your car,
Speaker 1: doesn't the rain doesn't hit you. I'm sure that'll be
Speaker 1: the next great thing that they do. They're perfect in
Speaker 1: every way. News on the wait about three here on
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW when a return. We've kind of got
Speaker 1: a confluence of Our next hour is gonna be more
Speaker 1: helpful it. I got Sonjay Shafercromani coming in our er
Speaker 1: doc and he's at dine Well Dock and we're going
Speaker 1: to talk about the protein curse. Specifically, we have the
Speaker 1: burger wars that are out and just see this, we
Speaker 1: have the war on Burgers happening. Well, that war on
Speaker 1: Burger's war amongst burger. So it's McDonald's burger King, Wendy's
Speaker 1: launching new products, and Mickey D's doing a fifty six
Speaker 1: gram protein burger over a thousand calaries of that bad boy.
Speaker 1: And of course we're in the protein craze. Remember back
Speaker 1: in the day, it was sugar free. I think sugar
Speaker 1: to get sugar free, but I rely sugar free, and
Speaker 1: then we had the low carb and now it's more like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna push a lot of protein. There's always a
Speaker 1: new health trend out there to sell you on how
Speaker 1: much do you need and what sources do you need?
Speaker 1: Is red meat really that bad for you? He's got
Speaker 1: the answers coming up at ten thirty five this morning
Speaker 1: after the break after news, though, we will keep it
Speaker 1: somewhat health related here, as OURFK has come out and
Speaker 1: declared she had against Dunkin Donuts and Starbucks for all
Speaker 1: the sugar in the coffees they sell you. Oddly enough,
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that, Like, if I know how many
Speaker 1: grams of sugar, how many calories are in a serving
Speaker 1: of what or does they're trying to sell me? I
Speaker 1: need to know that and it's pretty easy to find
Speaker 1: that information out. I'm like years ago, but now it's
Speaker 1: on the menu. It's pretty easy to find that information out.
Speaker 1: There's tremendous backlash today though, that's coming out speaking of drinks,
Speaker 1: sugary drinks, about Snap benefits. So if you're a SNAPS
Speaker 1: as a recipient, that would be food stamps. The new
Speaker 1: orders come out saying you're not allowed. You're not allowed
Speaker 1: to use your Snap benefits public assistance to buy soda.
Speaker 1: You can't buy pop anymore. And you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: really really okay with this. So you're going, well, how that?
Speaker 1: What world do you live in? You're against people using
Speaker 1: SNAP benefits to buy the stuff that kids can go
Speaker 1: and buy themselves with impunity at Starbucks, dug And it
Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. I will make sense of it
Speaker 1: for you because I try to be consistent. My goal
Speaker 1: is consistently logical in life, and I'll explain how that works.
Speaker 1: Coming up next, Scott Sloan Show, Home of the Reds,
Speaker 1: just slapping the hell out of Cue. Cuba's got to
Speaker 1: tough days head. You get invaded by Florida Rednecks with
Speaker 1: cruise ships. You got, you got the embargo, the crippling.
Speaker 1: Now the Reds just beat the hell out of you yesterday.
Speaker 1: I think it's bad being irand it's really bad being Cuba.
Speaker 1: Hold the red seven WW, Cincinnati.
Speaker 5: Do you want to be an American?
Speaker 1: I know I am the Sloane Salmon. It feels like
Speaker 1: swimming upstream. I just like I don't care if a
Speaker 1: Republican Democrat, I don't care. I want less government in
Speaker 1: my life used to be. That's the way Republicans were.
Speaker 1: Not anymore. Compleat's completely gone out the window, and I
Speaker 1: don't like it at all. So, first of all, welcome
Speaker 1: Scott's loan show. Seven hundred WALLWW. Big issue today, it's
Speaker 1: not even a big issue. Obviously, the born ramsay a
Speaker 1: huge issue. This is another one of those things that
Speaker 1: happens and people go, oh, okay, well it's fine, it's Trump,
Speaker 1: it's good. It's not so the government wants to control
Speaker 1: what is in your cup. Three stories broke this week
Speaker 1: in just the last twenty four hours, and taken separately,
Speaker 1: might seem they're unrelated, but I'll connect the dots and
Speaker 1: you'll get a clear picture of where we're headed. So
Speaker 1: ohhi was banning certain drinks, namely Pop for food Stamp recipients.
Speaker 1: RFK Junior is demanding Duncan and Starbucks proved that our
Speaker 1: ice coffees are not highly chloric, but rather safe to drink.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm safe.
Speaker 1: They've got to prove the product, the ingredients are safe,
Speaker 1: and the FDA's ingredients self certification system is being blown up.
Speaker 1: So it's not a coincidence. And I'll add into that
Speaker 1: maybe a fourth thing here too, that McDonald's, Wendy's, Burger
Speaker 1: King are all upping the burger war game to levels
Speaker 1: we haven't seen probably since the nineteen eighties, and we're
Speaker 1: talking some massive calories in some of these burgers. We
Speaker 1: have a coordinated push to put the government in charge
Speaker 1: of what Americans eat and drink. And the question that
Speaker 1: you need to ask is simple, did will well we
Speaker 1: vote for them to give them that kind of authority?
Speaker 1: All right, So let's start in Ohio and this one
Speaker 1: is already loss. So starting in October October first, Ohio
Speaker 1: SNAP recipients are going to be prohibited from using their
Speaker 1: benefits to buy soda and sugary drinks. So the USDA
Speaker 1: signed off on it, and so it targets any beverage
Speaker 1: that lists sugar cornsrip or high fructose cornshirper is a
Speaker 1: primary or secondary green and you go, well, slow, that's everything.
Speaker 1: So poor people can't eat no, no, no, They will
Speaker 1: change the recipe because they want to sell stuff to
Speaker 1: those people on SNAP benefits. And so the companies will
Speaker 1: react to this because they want to make money. It'll
Speaker 1: fix itself, and multiple states are doing this. I don't
Speaker 1: have a problem with that. You go, well, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: you just told me you're against government getting involved in
Speaker 1: telling us regulating sugary drinks and cracking down a duncan.
Speaker 1: And eventually what's going to happen is it's going to
Speaker 1: be McDonald's, Burger King and Wendy's because of these new burgers.
Speaker 5: Here's the difference.
Speaker 1: If you are working, you are paying the taxes to
Speaker 1: fund SNAP benefits food stamps. Okay, for a long time,
Speaker 1: we should have cracked down on what you can buy
Speaker 1: with said food stamps. It's kind of like Social Security
Speaker 1: in a sense in that social Security is not designed
Speaker 1: for you to live comfortably retired. So you can go
Speaker 1: on two vacations a year and have a golf CLB membership.
Speaker 1: Now that's not it's basically to keep you alive. It's
Speaker 1: bare bones. Anything you make above that is meant for
Speaker 1: those purposes. It's it's a bare minimum, same for snap
Speaker 1: and it's not prison enough calories to keep you alive
Speaker 1: per se. But I've for a long time event told
Speaker 1: you about the government by the same ones ago you
Speaker 1: shouldn't eat this, you shouldn't drink that. I should say, okay,
Speaker 1: But my tax money, our tax money, goes to feed
Speaker 1: people foods that will kill them, foods that will cause diabetes,
Speaker 1: foods that will cause them to spend more money on medicine,
Speaker 1: medical care that's already overwhelmed. That sucks for all of us,
Speaker 1: regardless figure on public assistance. And it just makes the
Speaker 1: crisis worse. So we complain about how bad the healthcare
Speaker 1: system is, it's overburdened and overstressed, and yet are the
Speaker 1: same tax money goes to give people provide people a
Speaker 1: diet that puts them in harm's way medicinally speaking, Does.
Speaker 5: That makes sense?
Speaker 1: It's it's it's the dumbest thing ever. It's like we
Speaker 1: complain about high froct torst cone shurep cours. We we
Speaker 1: it's a horrible tobal thing, and then all our tax
Speaker 1: money goes to farmers who produce the corn to keep
Speaker 1: the corn brais low so they can make more high
Speaker 1: for dose cards. Rup won't wait what Yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: the government puts a humidifier in a dehumidifier against each
Speaker 1: other and just turns it out and see who wins.
Speaker 1: That's what it feels like. So yeah, I think we
Speaker 1: should be doing it. I think it should be. Okay,
Speaker 1: unless you can buy whole foods, you can buy this,
Speaker 1: say you go, well, well, the problem is is the
Speaker 1: convenience stores that are located in these poor neighborhoods, they
Speaker 1: don't stalk that stuff. You're right, So do the people
Speaker 1: starve if they can't eat cheetos and drink pop? Now,
Speaker 1: what will happen is so someone will have be forced
Speaker 1: them to open a store in there because we complain
Speaker 1: about food deserts, and that would rectify the problem. The
Speaker 1: fact that the government is fueling this whole food desert
Speaker 1: thing is a huge issue. So what about Duncan the
Speaker 1: Duncan and soon to be here burger chains. Okay, so
Speaker 1: maybe you're in you're listening to go Okay, well that
Speaker 1: that kind of makes sense. Why should taxpayer money pay
Speaker 1: for Mountain do That's a fair instinct. The difference here, though,
Speaker 1: when it comes to Snap benefits and dunkin Donuts, which
Speaker 1: I don't think they take Snap I have no idea,
Speaker 1: is the fact that this is money that you earned.
Speaker 1: Now the see saying specifically kids and teenagers. But hold
Speaker 1: on a second, that's money you earn. But by giving
Speaker 1: your kids an allowance or saying hey, here's my credit card,
Speaker 1: you give them license to spend that money on will
Speaker 1: stuff like this. So that is a parental choice, like,
Speaker 1: for example, if you allow your kid to be on
Speaker 1: social media. Okay, we know the pitfalls and dangers of
Speaker 1: social media. We were on the ad saying you want
Speaker 1: to sue Facebook, here you go, here's our number calls
Speaker 1: if your kid has ever done anything bad to themselves
Speaker 1: because you want to blame it on social media. You,
Speaker 1: as a parent, I as a parent, give our kids
Speaker 1: a license to do that kind of stuff. And so
Speaker 1: this isn't an eat of food rally in Austin, Texas,
Speaker 1: Kennedy stood up and demanded Duncan and Starbucks produce safety
Speaker 1: data proving it safe for a teenage girl to drink
Speaker 1: an iced coffee with one hundred and fifteen grams of
Speaker 1: sugar in it. That's a la sanje schev CREMANI our
Speaker 1: yar guy, come up, it's just how much that is.
Speaker 1: And he said, quite honestly, I don't think Starbucks and
Speaker 1: Duncan are going to be able to do it. It's
Speaker 1: not a controversial statement.
Speaker 5: He's right.
Speaker 1: No one's arguing that a venta kermel Freppa, well, whatever
Speaker 1: the hell it is. I just usually drink coffee with
Speaker 1: some cream in it. It's a health food.
Speaker 5: It's not.
Speaker 1: But what he's doing is as an agent of the government,
Speaker 1: is something very different from consumer education. He's threatening private
Speaker 1: companies with regulatory action if they can't prove their product
Speaker 1: meets a certain safety standard. But by the way, until
Speaker 1: this moment didn't exist, and if it's to be regulated,
Speaker 1: this is in the purview of the FDA, which you
Speaker 1: can throw then find regulate sugar. You know, when we're
Speaker 1: worrying about marijuana and whether or not we should be
Speaker 1: legalized or I'll even go back even be considered a
Speaker 1: medicine before it was legalized for recreational use, the cry was, well,
Speaker 1: it's a gateway dr gets a gateway, and that's been
Speaker 1: disproven for a long time. But monument was not that
Speaker 1: it was a gateway drug. Okay, finds greatway, dog. Then
Speaker 1: what is the gateway to marijuana? Well, tobacco, that's bad too,
Speaker 1: now okay, so what was the gateway to tobacco?
Speaker 5: What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Sugar and then caffeine, and then nicotine and then maybe marijuana,
Speaker 1: then heroin, then meth and then crack and oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's where it starts. Like the first how you feel
Speaker 1: as a kid was when you get a pixie stick
Speaker 1: and knock about thirty of those back, right, Like I
Speaker 1: remember those days. You're like, whooh, I'm all sugared up
Speaker 1: Halloween Easter. Whoo, it's a drug. And we're giving our
Speaker 1: kids drugs with a caffeine, whether it's a coke or
Speaker 1: whether it's a Starbucks. And I'm sorry, but this whole
Speaker 1: thing rf CA is doing. If this were a Democrat,
Speaker 1: if this or Gavin Newsom, conservatives would be going nuts
Speaker 1: about this, as we did when big city mayors went
Speaker 1: to war on the size of beverages. Remember that that
Speaker 1: was what twenty years ago. So they're going to regulate.
Speaker 1: You can't sell an extra large pop anymore. Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: I'll get a large one by two and actually wind
Speaker 1: up drinking more pop. I mean, that's not in the
Speaker 1: scope of what government should be doing. If sugar is,
Speaker 1: indeed a product needs to be regulated that you how
Speaker 1: to prove it safe, then that should be up to
Speaker 1: the government, because again, we are giving farmers a hell
Speaker 1: of a lot of our tax money for corn subsidy
Speaker 1: high FORCT dose corn syrup. I mean, well, this is sugar,
Speaker 1: then puts sugar in. They're putting high frictose corn syrup
Speaker 1: in there. So that starts with you, guys, because you're
Speaker 1: encouraging its use. And obviously, you know, the progressives in
Speaker 1: Massachusetts are losing our minds because that's the Homa Dunkin
Speaker 1: Donuts And basically they're now using the come and take
Speaker 1: it flag, that don't tread on me flag. And it's
Speaker 1: funny how we've gone from the Tea Party using that
Speaker 1: to MAGA Republicans using that, and now Democrat liberal Democrats
Speaker 1: are using that. That mean, it's hilarious don't and they're
Speaker 1: calling it donut tread on me, which is actually really funny.
Speaker 1: So so Maha, the offshoot of MAGA Make America Healthy Again.
Speaker 1: Is he's closing the it's the grass loophole. It's GRAS
Speaker 1: stands for generally Recognized as safe. It's been the FDA's
Speaker 1: ingredient approval pathway for a decade. Companies itself certified that
Speaker 1: their ingredients are safe. That's the deal. And yet over
Speaker 1: ten that's it's been expanded way beyond its original intent.
Speaker 1: Thousands of ingredients, ultra processed food, and that system has
Speaker 1: real problems. But and this is critical, closing a loophole,
Speaker 1: a regulatory loophole, is legitimate policy under that closure as
Speaker 1: a weapon to go after Duncans and Starbucks is just
Speaker 1: political theater.
Speaker 5: It's grandstanding.
Speaker 1: There's a difference between fixing a broken system and using
Speaker 1: a broken system as a as a hammer, as a
Speaker 1: sledgehammer against companies that sell you things you personally don't like.
Speaker 1: And I think Kennedy crossed his that line this week,
Speaker 1: and the story's buried because of what's going on Iran.
Speaker 5: He noticed what he didn't say.
Speaker 1: He didn't say, this is a it's a label recording,
Speaker 1: here's a warrant, here's an age restriction. He said, you
Speaker 1: have to prove it safe. Or we're coming after you.
Speaker 1: So it's it's basically prohibition. So we've got a we're
Speaker 1: gonna have a sugary drink black market now, and I
Speaker 1: would guess that now this is sugar Watch what happens
Speaker 1: with McDonald's and Burger King and Wendy's as we have
Speaker 1: reignited the burger wars this week, they just launched the
Speaker 1: big arch McDonald's did, and it actually looks pretty damn
Speaker 1: good their entry into the extra large burger market. And
Speaker 1: so the CEO shows himself taking a bite. It look
Speaker 1: kind of fabricated to me, like Burger controlled him. That
Speaker 1: became a meme, and so we're off to the burger
Speaker 1: Wars once again. But the big picture argument is these
Speaker 1: three stories tell us something important about where the country's
Speaker 1: headed on food and personal freedom. We have a federal
Speaker 1: health secretary, an appointee targeting specific private companies by name
Speaker 1: of a political railing. Doesn't that undermine the whole argument
Speaker 1: that that the you know, the whole regulatory state needs
Speaker 1: to be upended, that we need DOSEE to come in
Speaker 1: and clean things out because government is just way too
Speaker 1: intrusive in our daily lives. And that seems like that
Speaker 1: seems like ten years ago. But now we're doing the
Speaker 1: exact opposite of dose who's doing We're we're creating more regular,
Speaker 1: more regulatory burdens on businesses. Look, no one's arguing that
Speaker 1: sugar and that amount of sugar is good for you.
Speaker 1: It's not good for you. My mom would say it's
Speaker 1: gonna write your teeth out. Probably is, as well as
Speaker 1: everything else. You'll be having the beat est by the
Speaker 1: time you hit your sixteenth birthday if you keep that up.
Speaker 5: And that's true.
Speaker 1: But we have enough information and we do this all
Speaker 1: the time where we make personal decisions that are bad
Speaker 1: for us, sometimes good, but often bad for us, and
Speaker 1: we weigh the potential outcomes. It's like why some people
Speaker 1: drive one hundred and thirty miles an hour in a
Speaker 1: motorcycle with no helmet, weaven or out of traffic. It
Speaker 1: is a personal risk issue. If I choose not to
Speaker 1: wear a seat belt, it is a personal risk issue.
Speaker 1: You know, you can run all the public service campaigns
Speaker 1: you want and telling me why you shouldn't do this,
Speaker 1: and mainly it's not, well, you're not hurting other people,
Speaker 1: Well you are, you're hurting your family. Well, maybe I
Speaker 1: hate my family. Maybe I'm an orphan. Maybe I'm trying
Speaker 1: to get away from them. Take a dirt net. I
Speaker 1: don't know why you're riding a motorcycle like that without
Speaker 1: a helmet, But in most cases you're only gonna hurt yourself.
Speaker 5: Or the seat belt.
Speaker 1: I mentioned seatbelts, right, it's same thing. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: haven't wear my seat belt like in those public service
Speaker 1: campaign It's like it just hurting me. Yeah, I might
Speaker 1: get an accident. Does it matter if I'm wearing a
Speaker 1: seat belt or not. It doesn't hurt me if I'm
Speaker 1: either the the person who caused the accident, I'm the
Speaker 1: victim of the accident. Whether you're a seat belt is now.
Speaker 1: Unless you fly through your windshield and land in my lap.
Speaker 1: That's the only time it's a problem, which is probably
Speaker 1: pretty rare, you know what I'm saying. And nobody in
Speaker 1: Washington wants answer. Where does this end? Because you vote
Speaker 1: in your party that you support, you're like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: this is the stuff we voted against the first time around,
Speaker 1: and now we're leaning into it, well because he's our guy. Like,
Speaker 1: I don't get it, and I think you know RFK
Speaker 1: Jerry's out in this guy. I like the idea that
Speaker 1: we're finally talking about health in this country. But it
Speaker 1: wasn't that long ago when remember when Michelle Obama proposed
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, more carrots are you know,
Speaker 1: we had carrit and when my kids are going to Mason,
Speaker 1: they have like a carrot vending machine that lasted about
Speaker 1: two weeks because people, well carrots sucked by themselves and
Speaker 1: they said, dip it in a ranch, which is the
Speaker 1: only time ranch is acceptable, by the way, unless it's
Speaker 1: on a wedge saddle with bacon, certainly not with wings. Well,
Speaker 1: if we started this or what world are we in?
Speaker 1: Its blue cheese goes with wings. Nonetheless, that's it. And
Speaker 1: it was like, oh my god, here we go. We're
Speaker 1: going to regulate the food, and don't we just look
Speaker 1: at it and go, okay, fine, that's good, We're fine.
Speaker 1: Nothing to see here, nothing to see here. Okay, if
Speaker 1: you are on public assistance and food stamps, we should
Speaker 1: have a say in what you eat because if you
Speaker 1: eat and drink nothing but stuff, that's bad for you.
Speaker 1: And we've seen this because of the real issue of
Speaker 1: food deserts that you know, package safe or shelf safe
Speaker 1: safe foods are generally have a lot of chemicals as
Speaker 1: bad for you, and the health consequences are terrible, especially
Speaker 1: for those marginalized communities. And yeah, okay, more freshoots and
Speaker 1: vegetables would be awesome, but you don't you know all
Speaker 1: these years we've allowed people to buy those things. And
Speaker 1: so that's what conveniences are.
Speaker 5: A stock. If you say, hey, here you go, whole.
Speaker 1: Food like those stories are going to be forced to
Speaker 1: carry things, maybe perishables. You might see more grocery stores
Speaker 1: than the hood, and that would be good for everybody.
Speaker 1: We shouldn't be paying for that. And then the healthcare.
Speaker 1: You're telling me my kids shouldn't drink this. And yet
Speaker 1: the same government, at least until October, is fine with
Speaker 1: people who are on public assistance using the food coupons
Speaker 1: to do just that. I mean, these guys can't get
Speaker 1: out of their own way right at five, one, three, seven, nine,
Speaker 1: seven thousand, over to John on the Scott sloand show, Hey, John.
Speaker 7: Tony, how are you?
Speaker 5: I'm good?
Speaker 7: Hey, I agree with you about you know, if you're
Speaker 7: on public assistance or you know, you can't be buying
Speaker 7: this garbage. You know, when you're on public assistance. But
Speaker 7: you know this, this ebbs and flows right, regulation.
Speaker 8: On tobacco, right, Yeah, tobacco.
Speaker 7: Is a legal product. We have regulated that within an
Speaker 7: inch of its life.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 7: I don't want to smoke it. I don't want any
Speaker 7: of my kids or families smoke it. But somebody chooses
Speaker 7: that's their business.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 7: So this this ebbs and flows back and forth between
Speaker 7: political parties. I know MAHA right now and RFK. He's
Speaker 7: probably got some good ideas. He's a little quirky on
Speaker 7: some other things. But you know, again, this comes down
Speaker 7: to one thing and one thing only, being a good parent, right,
Speaker 7: raising your kids to make good decisions. But if you
Speaker 7: are on public assistance many times, not always, many times,
Speaker 7: you've probably made some bad decisions. But look, I agree
Speaker 7: with this. The sugar thing is out of control. I
Speaker 7: didn't used to believe it, but.
Speaker 8: Yeah, the sugar thing is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's in every every product that's all over
Speaker 1: the planet. I'm glad he's pointing out at least, but
Speaker 1: I don't want the government to citing that for me.
Speaker 1: I want the information to decide for myself.
Speaker 5: That's fair.
Speaker 7: Well, and and again there's that's fine, that's fine. But
Speaker 7: you know what's let's take you and I decide there's
Speaker 7: a heat all kinds of food with courts here, we
Speaker 7: become diabetic, we become eighty pounds overweight, right, and now
Speaker 7: we're burning on the healthcare system. Well, you know, now
Speaker 7: a lot of tax dollars got to go towards me
Speaker 7: because I'm stabled and i'm and now I'm using a
Speaker 7: lot of government healthcare dollars. Really where does it end? Right?
Speaker 7: Where does it end? Because if you're going to pay
Speaker 7: for your health care on your that's your business. If
Speaker 7: if we're paying taxpayer bilers to.
Speaker 1: One, that's why I draw the line, because yeah, we're okay,
Speaker 1: well snap, oh we get to snap. Okay, great, but
Speaker 1: we're allowing people to kill themselves because that's all I
Speaker 1: have and pop and fast food and then cut the
Speaker 1: supply off and we're doing that. That's a good thing.
Speaker 1: I think that's a great thing. But now we're telling okay,
Speaker 1: if I if I have money, what I can what
Speaker 1: I should be spending my own money on, or somehow
Speaker 1: sugar now is dangerous. Yeah, but your policies created the
Speaker 1: fact that we use hypertrossed corn syrup as opposed to
Speaker 1: real sugar.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying real sugar is that much better, but.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying is like, you guys are
Speaker 1: creating this whole corn syrup thing and now you're the
Speaker 1: Ways in a war on that, but you're continuing the
Speaker 1: farm subsidies.
Speaker 5: I don't get it, but I do get.
Speaker 1: It because it's about control, it's about hypocrisy, it's about
Speaker 1: hoping you don't go, hey, you know this is my team,
Speaker 1: but aren't you guys doing the same thing.
Speaker 5: We beat the hell out of the other guys for
Speaker 5: it for a long time.
Speaker 1: We'll continue to convo with Sanjay Shape Kromani e er
Speaker 1: doc and our resident health food fitness guy about protein
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna ask him about the sugar thing too.
Speaker 1: Coming up next here, Sloany, seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 5: Show, seven hundred WLW. It's on Thursday morning, and it's
Speaker 5: not Ways. Have our buddy in son Jay Shaper Jimani.
Speaker 1: He is an emergency medicine position and you can find
Speaker 1: at dinad well Doc. It's health, it's food, is fitness,
Speaker 1: It all comes together. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 5: How are you? I'm good, Sloan. I may see I
Speaker 5: made it through the rain.
Speaker 1: Somehow I made it through the driving rain before I
Speaker 1: wait with the time. But we're gonna talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about protein today. And it's funny because I bring
Speaker 1: this up because burger wars are But I don't know
Speaker 1: if you know this, but did you see the burger
Speaker 1: wars that are happening right now? McDonald's launches what's called
Speaker 1: the Big Arch. It's fourteen patties with thirty slices of
Speaker 1: cheese in fifteen It's like over a thousand calories, fifty
Speaker 1: six grams of protein. Go, this is a protein las Burger,
Speaker 1: so Burger Things responding, Wendy's responding, we have It's like
Speaker 1: the eighties all over again. We got the burger wars
Speaker 1: going on. Question as you hear that, you go, fifty
Speaker 1: six grams of protein, how much protein do you need?
Speaker 1: I want to I hit that in a second. But
Speaker 1: speaking of food briefly here because I like pulling news
Speaker 1: stories up and throwing a match. Here, OURFK. Junior is
Speaker 1: targeting sugary drinks. He's calling out Duncan, He's calling out Starbucks,
Speaker 1: saying they prove the safety of high sugar products like
Speaker 1: an iced coffee with one hundred and fifteen grams of sugar.
Speaker 1: How that's not dangerous for particularly young consumers. Thoughts on that,
Speaker 1: I mean, I politics aside. I think he's getting some
Speaker 1: points here. You know, I love coffee, but I don't
Speaker 1: want to have one hundred and fifteen grams of whole
Speaker 1: lot of sugar.
Speaker 10: And I looked it up after he said that. I
Speaker 10: was like, no, those drinks don't have and they do,
Speaker 10: and there's some with even more, and so I am interested.
Speaker 10: I mean, really, what he's saying is show me some
Speaker 10: research that it is helpful or at least not harmful.
Speaker 10: I'd be interested in that too, but you know, time
Speaker 10: will tell. But I can't imagine that's good for anybody. Well,
Speaker 10: I agree with it, it's not good for you.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm also a libertarian in
Speaker 1: sense it's like, yeah, okay, then he's not talking about
Speaker 1: the Burger Wars talking about I don't know if you
Speaker 1: know this, but kids like sugar, adults like sugar.
Speaker 5: We like sugar.
Speaker 10: If you want to talk about a gateway drug, sugar
Speaker 10: is a gateway. And I'm guilty as charge. I mean,
Speaker 10: I will, I will drink it. I will feel like
Speaker 10: crap afterwards. I will I mean I'll happily ingest it
Speaker 10: at the time and then pay the price later.
Speaker 5: Yeah, one hundred percent. But I did the government picking
Speaker 5: winners will lose this thing.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing we did years ago with you know,
Speaker 1: I guess progressive mayors where they would go after the
Speaker 1: size of drinks, you know, fountain drinks. We got to
Speaker 1: put ban or new tax. Sounds like people are going
Speaker 1: to just drink two of them.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think I think the best thing that in
Speaker 10: my mind that could come out of this is just
Speaker 10: more awareness of what, you know, what the sugar content
Speaker 10: is and drinks. I mean, everything's labeled with his protein contents.
Speaker 10: Now we should include that sugar content. I mean, you know,
Speaker 10: facts being facts. One one gram of sugar is four calories,
Speaker 10: So one hundred and fifteen calorie drink.
Speaker 6: What is that?
Speaker 5: Four hundred and sixty quick math?
Speaker 10: Four hundred and sixty calories just from sugar alone in
Speaker 10: that alf to So that's about all that's.
Speaker 5: My cai sugar. It's insane.
Speaker 10: Yeah, And that's just the sugar, so you know, Yeah,
Speaker 10: the rest of the drink, you put some foam on it,
Speaker 10: some heavy whip and game over mine as well, add
Speaker 10: the sprinkles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't eat for another week. Oh, I got
Speaker 1: you can't, right, right, So you know it's good to
Speaker 1: have that awareness of for sure.
Speaker 4: All Right.
Speaker 1: So the burger war thing, it's interesting because they're pushing
Speaker 1: it as a protein. But if I'm if fifty six
Speaker 1: s grams of protein with the burger, but I'm also
Speaker 1: eating the bond, I'm probably also washing it down with
Speaker 1: some fries. I mean, if you think you're it's keto, it's.
Speaker 5: Not the opposite. Yeah, I mean, like you know, the
Speaker 5: question is what else?
Speaker 10: Yeah, they're they're going to make the protein number huge
Speaker 10: and all the rest of it's going to be I'm
Speaker 10: going to catch up on it, right Yeah. Yeah, you
Speaker 10: get the sugar in that, you got all the calories
Speaker 10: and the fats and everything, and they're not good fats
Speaker 10: that we're getting from from any of these places.
Speaker 5: Again, I'd love me a good burger. Probably a good
Speaker 5: as burger.
Speaker 10: Yeah, absolutely probably, although well we won't comment on the
Speaker 10: CEO's video because he didn't make it look that.
Speaker 5: But wes he weighs like ninety eight pounds, like people
Speaker 5: like you don't eat that.
Speaker 10: No, and he's not drinking thee hundred fifteen gram sugar
Speaker 10: you drink either, right, But you know it'll it'll be
Speaker 10: interesting how this plays out. Again, protein is all the rage.
Speaker 10: If you want to sell something, you just put protein
Speaker 10: on the front of it and people will buy it.
Speaker 10: But the question is the what else and what has
Speaker 10: gone into that? Protein gotcha?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 1: So it's about I guess, quality protein. So you hear
Speaker 1: fifty six grams like, oh, that's a lot of pre
Speaker 1: how much protein you need?
Speaker 10: So current recommendations are one point two to one point
Speaker 10: six grams for kilograms, So I can't do the quick
Speaker 10: math on that on anybody. But what I'm shooting for
Speaker 10: really is around one hundred and twenty to one hundred
Speaker 10: and fifty grams of protein a day, okay, which is
Speaker 10: you know, sizable. A single serving of chicken is about
Speaker 10: thirty grams of protein, so we're talking about, you know,
Speaker 10: the equivalent of five servings of chicken per day, which
Speaker 10: you know exactly, it's a lot.
Speaker 5: But we can get those protein sources.
Speaker 10: Fortunately, everything in the supermarket has protein now, so you
Speaker 10: can get it from a lot of different sources. But
Speaker 10: that's what I'm shooting for personally, but again, if you
Speaker 10: want to do the math on yourself, one point two
Speaker 10: to one point six grams per kilogram per day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you go into i don't know, like a casino
Speaker 1: and they're pumping the oxygen, but the oxygen has protein
Speaker 1: in it now, so you're yeah, yeah, exactly what not
Speaker 1: jack casino?
Speaker 3: And you do that.
Speaker 1: Okay, So that's the simple math and how much you need.
Speaker 1: But I was like, yeah, rule of thumb because you're
Speaker 1: not bringing a scale with you need. Basically, it's like
Speaker 1: if you eat a size of a deck of cards
Speaker 1: of protein, that's a that's a portion.
Speaker 5: Right, that's about a portion.
Speaker 10: Yeah, we're talking about three and a half or so
Speaker 10: three to four ounces is a portion of meat in general.
Speaker 10: So you know, if you if you think about going
Speaker 10: out for a steak and you're getting a fourteen ounce
Speaker 10: you know strip, which is my favorite, you know, I'm
Speaker 10: doing three or four servings right there, which is great
Speaker 10: from the protein content, but the rest of the content
Speaker 10: also you know. Again, and we can talk about red
Speaker 10: meat as well.
Speaker 5: And yeah, because I like red meat. Red meat sounds amazing.
Speaker 1: Pros and cons are red meat because it's like an
Speaker 1: egg's got a bad rap and.
Speaker 5: I'm like, no, eggs are fine, it's actually good. They're
Speaker 5: good for you. So we're now back on the egg band.
Speaker 6: WI.
Speaker 5: Why are we on red meat? Red meat is a
Speaker 5: it depends who you ask.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 10: You know, we've gone kind of anti red meat now
Speaker 10: a lot of people are pro meat red meat, and
Speaker 10: the answer is always is somewhere in between. So in
Speaker 10: twenty fifteen, it was released that you know, red meats
Speaker 10: are carcinogens, so they can cause cancer. Now that that
Speaker 10: really goes for mainly processed red meat as opposed to
Speaker 10: just natural, unprocessed red meat. And that's kind of where
Speaker 10: the main definition occurs. But we're also where the confusion happens.
Speaker 1: All right, So we'll start with like, okay, so bacon,
Speaker 1: which we're gonna have bacon, sausage, hot dogs, that kind.
Speaker 10: Of stuff exactly. So those are those are processed. And
Speaker 10: the unfortunate part is everything gets lumped in together, so
Speaker 10: processed includes just basic cured meat. So the finest pershudo
Speaker 10: from Italy is still going to be considered a processed meat.
Speaker 5: Now, is that as bad as hot dogs? Well, the
Speaker 5: studies haven't come out.
Speaker 10: But I can guess you know you're doing okay if
Speaker 10: you're having some perscudo every now and then, but maybe
Speaker 10: not doing so okay.
Speaker 5: If you're having a hot dog with it, hot dog
Speaker 5: every day, it's a problem.
Speaker 10: Yeah, And and that comes down to both cardiovascular risk
Speaker 10: and the cancer risk, so both of those, how it
Speaker 10: affects your heart and brain and also you know, cognitive function.
Speaker 10: So even dementia has been recently linked in a study
Speaker 10: just two months ago to increased processed red meat intake.
Speaker 1: Okay, so what about unprocessed red meat? What about a steak?
Speaker 1: So about pork, it's still they're still developing it. And
Speaker 1: so really what it looks like is you can tolerate
Speaker 1: higher amounts of unprocessed red meat, so natural red meat,
Speaker 1: say ground beef or steak, and you can have a
Speaker 1: higher amount of that per day. So what the studies
Speaker 1: have shown is about fifty grams of processed red meat
Speaker 1: is enough to cause an increase in cancer of about
Speaker 1: eighteen percent. Now that's a relative increase. That's not like saying, well,
Speaker 1: my risk because I don't eat red meat is twenty percent,
Speaker 1: and if I ate processed red meat's thirty Is that
Speaker 1: a day? It every day day and so what that
Speaker 1: amounts to fifty grams is like two strips of bacon,
Speaker 1: So it's not a ton. If you're having bacon every morning,
Speaker 1: that could increase your risk about you know.
Speaker 5: Eighteen percent.
Speaker 10: What does that mean if you had a five percent
Speaker 10: risk of cancer colorectal cancer before it becomes six percent.
Speaker 10: So it's not huge, but it's definitely a link there.
Speaker 10: And so that's fifty grams. If you want to talk
Speaker 10: about unprocessed meat, that's one hundred grams per day of
Speaker 10: intake that will increase the risk of heart disease and cancer.
Speaker 1: All right, So bottom line it for me, son Jay,
Speaker 1: once a week on the process, yeah, or on whatever.
Speaker 10: You can actually have unprocessed red meat probably a couple
Speaker 10: times about the week, two or three times. Now you
Speaker 10: obviously want to have other protein sources, those protein sources
Speaker 10: that are better for you. Fish seems to be winning
Speaker 10: mainly because they'll make a three fatty acids that go
Speaker 10: along with the chicken. Chicken is also a great one
Speaker 10: because it's lean. The main problems, you know, we can
Speaker 10: divide it into the fat and then the cancer got
Speaker 10: it and so fat.
Speaker 5: You know, it depends on your cut of steak.
Speaker 10: If you're having just a filet mignon, that's actually pretty
Speaker 10: low and fat rib other end of the spectrum.
Speaker 5: But I love me a good.
Speaker 10: Ribby, right, I slid having one more than once a month,
Speaker 10: you know. Yeah, chicken, turkey, those are all nice middle
Speaker 10: ground there, right, yeah, and so those are those are
Speaker 10: good middle grounds. Again, ribbis are delicious brown, Yeah.
Speaker 4: You want to go.
Speaker 10: I mean, the lenus is like a ninety three seven,
Speaker 10: which really just tastes like stuff.
Speaker 5: That's that's literally what I feed my dog eighty twenty.
Speaker 10: You know you're gonna grill awful lot of that, so
Speaker 10: you know, at the end of the day it isn't bad.
Speaker 10: But again to two servings, two to three servings a
Speaker 10: week is probably okay on that. Just be careful with
Speaker 10: the process. Mean, and again it's it's bacon, it's uh sausage,
Speaker 10: it's hot dogs, stuff like gotcha all right?
Speaker 1: Also, I will say pork, like pork is really lean
Speaker 1: these days, right, like a center cut chop or tender loin.
Speaker 5: Is that closer to chicken or closer to a steak.
Speaker 10: So you know that that whole thing from twenty thirty
Speaker 10: years ago where they called it the other white meat.
Speaker 10: It's actually a red meat. And it's really how that's
Speaker 10: defined as the amount of maya globin, which is a
Speaker 10: certain thing in the meat that is carried in the meat,
Speaker 10: and so it is leaner though than pork, sorry, than
Speaker 10: beef in general.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, that's very medical. That's a certain thing in beef
Speaker 1: that's in the beef, very exactly. I'm an er doc,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I got to bring it down enough of
Speaker 1: a trade jack trade master. Always the smartest gedder Sanji
Speaker 1: Shava Karmani here's a our physician as you mentioned too,
Speaker 1: but also health food fitness talking about well, we have
Speaker 1: the new burger wars coming out now. McDonald's, Wendy's, Burger
Speaker 1: King all fighting. Mickey D's rolls out this dud big
Speaker 1: arch which has twelve billion calories and at fifteen thousand
Speaker 1: slices of cheese, forty eight million slices of beef patties
Speaker 1: in there, and it's fifty six grams of protein a
Speaker 1: well over one thousand calories and things. Okay, well, should
Speaker 1: we visit the issue on red meat. We're learning we
Speaker 1: learn more about eggs and things like that. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's you know, red meat and moderate She said two
Speaker 1: three times a week, lean red meat maybe once a week.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna do like a hot dog or bacon
Speaker 1: or processed foods like that, it's fine. I'm more of
Speaker 1: a bacon crumble kind of guy, So it's like a
Speaker 1: little bit of a time here and there in a
Speaker 1: salad or something like that.
Speaker 5: So I'm good.
Speaker 1: But who doesn't like some bacon? What plant based diets,
Speaker 1: of course, have been the rage for a long time.
Speaker 1: Is a science strong enough now to recommend we move
Speaker 1: away from animal protein and just do like the plant protein.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're probably a protein supplement guy with
Speaker 1: the you know, there's different ones. You've got rice protein,
Speaker 1: soy protein. It's there's a million different kinds. What what
Speaker 1: do you need there?
Speaker 10: I mean, if you're again looking at the data, a
Speaker 10: vegetarian diet does seem to have a lot more health
Speaker 10: benefits than a meat diet. But I also want to live,
Speaker 10: and so it's you know, how much do you want
Speaker 10: to take? You know, as far as how strict do
Speaker 10: I want to be with my diet? And also you know,
Speaker 10: if you just enjoy vegetables, great, and if you can
Speaker 10: get enough protein content. And that's great if you want
Speaker 10: to have some meat, though, as long as you're getting
Speaker 10: a balanced diet eating real food, which is again the
Speaker 10: current administration stands.
Speaker 5: Yes, that seems to be the most important part.
Speaker 10: So they do have a point with that, Like the
Speaker 10: less processed foods you have, the less additives in there
Speaker 10: like nitrates and nitrites and you know, your jerky and
Speaker 10: stuff like that.
Speaker 5: The better off you'll be. Okay, No, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: And you know, if you're taking a protein supplement, powdered
Speaker 1: protein generally is going to be organic and also vegan.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you don't and.
Speaker 10: Most of them, I mean you do want to check
Speaker 10: the back and make sure there's not too many additives
Speaker 10: in there. But there are a lot of clean kind
Speaker 10: of protein powders. I use one that has minimal ingredients
Speaker 10: in it, and I supplement my diet daily with that.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Good.
Speaker 1: There's also a growing bunch of research down protein and longevity.
Speaker 1: And does it seemed that like that is the trend
Speaker 1: that that's actual good science. Now we enough data, that's
Speaker 1: good science.
Speaker 10: I mean, we all want to have the protein intake,
Speaker 10: which ultimately amounts to muscle mass. The more muscle mass
Speaker 10: we have in our body. It does a few things
Speaker 10: we you know, we talked about last week grip strength
Speaker 10: being important. So the more the more muscle you have
Speaker 10: on you, the less falls you'll have, the more things
Speaker 10: you can do in life, So both the quantity and
Speaker 10: the quality of your life will increase. And then what
Speaker 10: we're finding is also the amount of muscle you have
Speaker 10: on you also helps with you know, sugar metabolism, and
Speaker 10: so the more muscle you have, if you have a
Speaker 10: sugar emeal, if you have one hundred and fifteen gram
Speaker 10: coffee drink, your body will be able to do more
Speaker 10: with that so it doesn't end up becoming fat, so
Speaker 10: you don't end up insulin resistance insulin resistant in developing diabetes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, that makes sense also to you know,
Speaker 1: I know you are are big on other supplements to
Speaker 1: in addition to the protein, You're putting different types of
Speaker 1: I guess mixes in there.
Speaker 5: What else? What else do you recommend with a cretine preteine?
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, there have been some links and I'm
Speaker 10: currently not doing creatine because I'm trying to cut a
Speaker 10: little bit coming into summer, and it does cause a
Speaker 10: little bit of weight gain, but through muscle gain as well. Yeah,
Speaker 10: but it seems to have some neuroprotective benefits too, so
Speaker 10: you know, decreasing the risk of dementia too, which is
Speaker 10: near and dear to my heart with a father with dementia.
Speaker 10: So that is an important one that seems to be
Speaker 10: coming out and playing out in the literature and so creating.
Speaker 10: I'm pro creating for the most part.
Speaker 1: Not during not right exactly. All right, So vanity, in
Speaker 1: your opinion is vanity is greater than health.
Speaker 10: Everything I do is to look good, Scott, And I'm
Speaker 10: having enough of a hard time with that right now.
Speaker 5: You know, be asking what grilla You're like, it's sixty
Speaker 5: minutes over here. Yeah, exactly, poor guy.
Speaker 1: Or I didn't sign up for this nonsense swim shut up,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. But he's looking at you. Got one gray hair,
Speaker 1: It's over, That's how it works. Or to get married
Speaker 1: for God crying out love, for God's sakes, it's over.
Speaker 5: Give it up. Got to fit into my suit? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: And I think that's.
Speaker 1: An important thing to the health and dementia portion of
Speaker 1: it is, especially as you get older. Right, I've been
Speaker 1: taking greteen for a little while now, so because of that,
Speaker 1: it just seems like it's a good supplement to have.
Speaker 10: It seems to be a good thing. Brain, body, they're
Speaker 10: all tied and together. And the more we find out,
Speaker 10: the more we realize that's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what about glp ones the factor in this too.
Speaker 1: Now you know it reduces your appetite, but are you
Speaker 1: at risk of serious protein undertake?
Speaker 10: You are, And so the problem is in general the
Speaker 10: glp ones will make you obviously lose weight, but is
Speaker 10: to decrease you know, appetite. And so the less you're eating,
Speaker 10: the more you have to focus on what are you
Speaker 10: actually putting in your body? Are you are you eating
Speaker 10: real foods in the limited quantities that you're taking in
Speaker 10: And so it's it's almost most important for patients and
Speaker 10: people on GLP ones to focus and make sure they're
Speaker 10: getting that protein intake and one hundred You know, if
Speaker 10: you have to take one hundred and fifty grams of
Speaker 10: protein in a day, that is tough enough as it is,
Speaker 10: let alone all the other stuff you want to be eating.
Speaker 10: You know, vegetables will fill you up quickly, that's what
Speaker 10: makes them so good. But you know, really focusing on
Speaker 10: that protein and take because as we you know, as
Speaker 10: we learn, you lose as much protein or muscle as
Speaker 10: you do fat and in the same amount of proportions.
Speaker 10: But you really want to keep that muscle on board
Speaker 10: while you're losing your fat.
Speaker 1: No, that makes a that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: So you know, bounced out. So you're learning something here
Speaker 1: too from Sonjay, and that is you know, red meat
Speaker 1: is not the worst thing. Or you once or twice
Speaker 1: a week for the unprocessed once once a week if
Speaker 1: it's a hot dog, bacon, things like that. Pork is
Speaker 1: certainly a red meat in this category, and you don't
Speaker 1: have to take unless you want to. The protein based supplements,
Speaker 1: although I know plenty of body build as you do too,
Speaker 1: it's like, well here's what's recommended for you.
Speaker 10: Wait and they take three times that. Oh yeah, you know,
Speaker 10: so there're gonna be problems with that too. I mean,
Speaker 10: you better be staying hydrated.
Speaker 5: Yeah you doing that?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 1: By the way, what happens if you if you creteine
Speaker 1: also you have to you have to hydrate. What happens
Speaker 1: your body if you don't drink enough water?
Speaker 10: You really want to metabolize it. So you want to
Speaker 10: push things through your body and water will help you
Speaker 10: do that. And if things start sledging down, you know,
Speaker 10: there can be problems with the kidneys, especially it's a
Speaker 10: lot of burden on the kidneys to process that much
Speaker 10: prot teamed through them.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for years, you know, professional bodybuilds and others said,
Speaker 1: now we way more protein than your body needs and
Speaker 1: it seems to work, I guess, and.
Speaker 10: It works in that degree. But they're also probably you know,
Speaker 10: drinking a ton of water every day just to kind
Speaker 10: of move things along.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, all right, Sonjay, appreciate you so much. Sanjay
Speaker 1: Schaeffer caramani E our physician also our resident health food
Speaker 1: fitness guy. You can find him at Dine Well Dock
Speaker 1: and of course he's at Revived Strength in Oakley. All
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Speaker 1: We had nationally a twenty four percent drop in overdose
Speaker 1: destinationwide and that sounds like good news. But a drug
Speaker 1: four to ten times more potent than fentanyl, I said,
Speaker 1: four to time ten, four to ten times more potent
Speaker 1: in fedil has been found in Hamlin County. Should he
Speaker 1: be worried about this this morning? It's lack to Marco.
Speaker 1: She is a corner of Hamilton County and she's on
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 5: Now what's going on? How are you?
Speaker 6: I'm great? How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm doing fine. Just trying to get everything working this morning.
Speaker 1: I think that's all the waters like, screw my equipment
Speaker 1: up here.
Speaker 5: I know you had a pressure.
Speaker 11: I told you it took three cups of.
Speaker 6: Coffee this morning.
Speaker 5: Today's definitely an extra coffee and then a nap kind
Speaker 5: of thing. I know you've got.
Speaker 1: You just rolled a website out, a new website because
Speaker 1: of the transparency.
Speaker 5: I think it's interesting.
Speaker 1: I don't think that guy's much covers as you should
Speaker 1: with the war and all this other news. But the
Speaker 1: fact that you want to be more transparent in the
Speaker 1: Corner's office.
Speaker 11: You know, that's always been I've said from the very beginning.
Speaker 11: This is an office that's supported by the tax payers
Speaker 11: and and the voters, and they they have a right
Speaker 11: to know the information. That's why I've always been as
Speaker 11: transparent as I possibly can, whether it's.
Speaker 8: Good news bad news.
Speaker 11: You know, things we did great or mistakes that we made.
Speaker 11: I think that, you know, the public has a right
Speaker 11: to know, and that's why I've always tried to present
Speaker 11: it that way and you know, not put any personal
Speaker 11: biases on it, and to the facts and stick to
Speaker 11: the science.
Speaker 6: You don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not crazy, like you don't have live
Speaker 1: cams on your slabs while you're working, right, you can't
Speaker 1: like live stream You're.
Speaker 11: Absolutely it's okay, so far you can go well, and
Speaker 11: you know what if people we you know, we've never
Speaker 11: before we moved into our new building, you know, we didn't.
Speaker 11: We really couldn't do tours in the old building because
Speaker 11: we couldn't separate the working spaces from public spaces. But
Speaker 11: one of the things that you know, we wanted to achieve.
Speaker 11: One of my goals in the new building was I
Speaker 11: want to be able to provide tours for the public
Speaker 11: so that they can see what we're doing here, so
Speaker 11: that they can understand, and so that kids can be
Speaker 11: inspired by the work that's being done. There's so much
Speaker 11: interest in forensics, sure, but you know, kids are going
Speaker 11: into physics class or chemistry going oh my god, this
Speaker 11: is so boring. But then you come out to the
Speaker 11: crime lab and you see how that's being used on
Speaker 11: a daily basis to solve crimes and to help people,
Speaker 11: And then it becomes something more tangible and something more interesting.
Speaker 1: I got to say, I passed by there not too
Speaker 1: long ago. That new building is absolutely spectacular.
Speaker 6: And blue ash well, come out for a tour.
Speaker 4: I need to.
Speaker 1: I need to come in. I need to, I need
Speaker 1: to check it out. So I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I kind of wave bit you when you're driving by.
Speaker 1: Let's so, what kind of stuff would be available on
Speaker 1: the website like for people to that our interests?
Speaker 5: I guess, is it is it case information? Is it?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 5: What's the transparency at so?
Speaker 11: Case information we don't provide on individual cases on the website.
Speaker 11: If something is adjudicated and somebody wanted some information, that's
Speaker 11: public records. But when a case is being investigated, of course,
Speaker 11: we really can't share information until everything is done. What
Speaker 11: we have on the website is more information whether you're
Speaker 11: a student wanting to go into forensics and wanting links
Speaker 11: for places to go, you know, opportunities available other sites
Speaker 11: where they can get more information. We have the biggest
Speaker 11: part of what I presented yesterday, and which I thought
Speaker 11: was important for everybody to have is we're constantly asked
Speaker 11: about numbers statistics. You know, how many homicides, how many suicides,
Speaker 11: how many naturals, how many and so we keep all
Speaker 11: that and it's not like we keep it up to
Speaker 11: date every thirty days because cases take time to be certified,
Speaker 11: so there's always going to be a little bit of
Speaker 11: a like like for example, for our twenty twenty five statistics,
Speaker 11: we still have about nine cases that we're certifying because
Speaker 11: there's information that we're waiting for that's been sent off
Speaker 11: to other labs, or we found out some extra information
Speaker 11: we're looking into the backgrounds. So but we're talking nine
Speaker 11: cases out of over twelve hundred cases that we are
Speaker 11: top seeds. Okay, so it's just a very small percentage,
Speaker 11: you know. And we normally have them done by the
Speaker 11: first quarter, so we should have those cleared in the
Speaker 11: next week or so. But otherwise we've had statistics there
Speaker 11: from twenty thirteen on and I was just mentioning tomorrow
Speaker 11: is my fourteenth anniversary in the office.
Speaker 1: Wow, congratulations fourteen. What I believe that's for meldehyde, I
Speaker 1: think is the fourteenth anniversary is a gift, I believe,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure.
Speaker 11: I've got to look it up for the anniversary in
Speaker 11: the in the office. And you know, so we have
Speaker 11: we have track statistics. I started in twenty twelve and
Speaker 11: the first year I was there, our overdose number was
Speaker 11: two hundred and nine and last year twenty twenty five,
Speaker 11: it went down to one hundred ninety four. And but
Speaker 11: in between, you know, we had a peak of five
Speaker 11: hundred and sixty seven in twenty seventeen, and you know,
Speaker 11: we started seeing in twenty thirteen. We had two cases
Speaker 11: of fentanyl two two in twenty thirteen two so, and
Speaker 11: then since that time it's gone up, right, and then
Speaker 11: we started seeing more of it on the street. So
Speaker 11: all the statistics are available on the website. They go
Speaker 11: by year, they're broken down by manner of death by
Speaker 11: We also have additional statistics that aren't on there yet,
Speaker 11: but that will be shortly about the different types of
Speaker 11: drugs that we're seeing. And the pie charts showing you
Speaker 11: what we see most of and second and so forth,
Speaker 11: and then if you hover over the little pieces of
Speaker 11: the pie, it'll actually give you numbers, not just percentages.
Speaker 1: Okay, so what you're saying is in fourteen years of
Speaker 1: your anniversary tomorrow. These are the lowest o D rates
Speaker 1: you've seen.
Speaker 11: These are the lowest overdose rates we have seen since
Speaker 11: I've been in office.
Speaker 1: In a decade and a half, that almost decade of
Speaker 1: that is that's incredible. Attribute that to.
Speaker 11: Well, I think if you remember, everybody was scratching their
Speaker 11: heads in twenty sixteen and seventeen when carpentanel hit our
Speaker 11: streets and so many people were dying, and we had
Speaker 11: such a huge number of overdose sets, and we were thinking,
Speaker 11: how are we going to get our arms around this
Speaker 11: situation and try and help these people, and there was
Speaker 11: a full core press. I think on Ohio just led
Speaker 11: the way, but even more so, I think Hamilton County
Speaker 11: led the way on number one, recognizing the problem too,
Speaker 11: acknowledging the problem and making sure that it's no longer
Speaker 11: a stigma, and actually talking about it being a health
Speaker 11: condition like any other health conditions, and trying to get
Speaker 11: people helped so that they're not ashamed to go to
Speaker 11: a clinic or a center, gets clean needles, et cetera.
Speaker 11: And then we started looking into well, where can we
Speaker 11: get the dollars to set up treatment centers because we
Speaker 11: hardly had any treatment centers when this hit. And so
Speaker 11: you know when the hero and Coalition form ten years ago,
Speaker 11: and that was true the Hamilton County Chiefs, the Police Association,
Speaker 11: where we recognize that we have to do something, and
Speaker 11: we were all in on this. And when that started,
Speaker 11: we started making some inroads and started making some connections
Speaker 11: and started working with the FEDS in the US Attorney's
Speaker 11: Office as far as trying to enforce the laws and
Speaker 11: also get the drugs off the street and making the
Speaker 11: punishments more meaningful so that people were it would be
Speaker 11: it would be more onerous if you choose that road.
Speaker 11: And then on the other hand, we started looking into
Speaker 11: how do we get prevention information out there, how do
Speaker 11: we make sure people understand how dangerous this really is.
Speaker 11: This is not you know, the pot of thirty years ago,
Speaker 11: This is not the crack of the nineteen eighties and nineties,
Speaker 11: This is not you know, the cocaine and the mess
Speaker 11: that people had been using. This is this was just
Speaker 11: a very different class of drugs and the danger was
Speaker 11: much higher.
Speaker 6: So as that.
Speaker 11: Moved along, and as we got more support i think
Speaker 11: in the community, and as we got more treatment centers.
Speaker 11: I mean the jail has a treatment pod now even
Speaker 11: they held the county justice. I think that as people
Speaker 11: got their minds around the idea of this is in
Speaker 11: our community, this is something we have to deal with.
Speaker 11: This is something that people are seeing at the zoo
Speaker 11: or at the ballpark, and you know, this is this
Speaker 11: is something that we all need to address. And I
Speaker 11: think that as more resources were used to set these
Speaker 11: things up, it was you know, it's three pillars. It's prevention,
Speaker 11: it's enforcement, and its treatments. And I think as things
Speaker 11: moved along and they became you know, you might have
Speaker 11: put more on treatment and one time more on prevention,
Speaker 11: at other times more on enforcement. But as those things happened,
Speaker 11: I think that we started seeing people maybe use less.
Speaker 5: And okay, yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Doctor Lakshmi Schimarco is on the show this morning on
Speaker 1: seven hundred W She's a Hamling kunt of Corner and
Speaker 1: kind of a break of news here she's going to
Speaker 1: celebrate fourteen years in office. Lowest O D rates she
Speaker 1: has seen since she has been Hamlin County Corner, which
Speaker 1: is absolutely incredible. And there's different, of course, ways to
Speaker 1: examine why that is right now, and you know, sadly
Speaker 1: I don't. We're never going to win the war on drugs.
Speaker 1: It's not a winnable thing. It's just pivots and it shifts.
Speaker 1: How much do you attribute that to? Also, people are
Speaker 1: aware the fentanyl's out there, and I mean kids now
Speaker 1: will go to clubs and bring test trips with them
Speaker 1: to make sure what they're using as a party drug
Speaker 1: is not laced with fentanyl.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 11: So that's that's the kind of stuff that I'm talking
Speaker 11: about that was created in the last few years to
Speaker 11: help people and taking the stigma away, you know, from
Speaker 11: drug un to start treatment, and to raising awareness and
Speaker 11: the prevention aspect of it, especially at a kid level,
Speaker 11: the young young adult level. And the fact that it's
Speaker 11: totally normal to take a strip with you. You know
Speaker 11: that nobody's going to say, hey, what is that word
Speaker 11: thing you're hearing with you, but actually it's, hey, that's
Speaker 11: a smart thing to do. And all of those things
Speaker 11: I think contributed to this. Now you'll notice as Sentinel
Speaker 11: is being stopped at the border lately, which I'm very
Speaker 11: grateful for the fact that we're keeping it out of
Speaker 11: our community. Cocaine production has tripled, and we are seeing
Speaker 11: more cocaine. We have been the last two years, have
Speaker 11: been seeing more cocaine on the streets of fact. In
Speaker 11: the twenty twenty five overdose death certificate staffs it was
Speaker 11: thirty five percent due to opia. Actually not not the
Speaker 11: death stats, sorry, actual seizure stats opioids thirty four percent cocaine.
Speaker 5: Huh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's cyclical, right, Cocaine will come back, Heroin
Speaker 1: will come back, some methyl cove and it just it's
Speaker 1: a rinse and repeat kind of cycle. And you're always
Speaker 1: kind of like playing Poppable with this in your office.
Speaker 1: There's a new one out And I mentioned at the
Speaker 1: beginning here all actually somarco uh that is a chlor uh.
Speaker 1: Cyclophine is what it's called. Yeah, detected in around here
Speaker 1: I think last August, according to Tom Signing and the
Speaker 1: great work that they do. How concerned should we be?
Speaker 1: I mean, are you starting to see that at your
Speaker 1: end as a corner?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 11: So cyclophine the name is actually en propia nitral chlorophine.
Speaker 11: It's a class of drugs that we started seeing last
Speaker 11: summer in very small amounts. We saw it in the
Speaker 11: drug section. So in other words, not that's college section
Speaker 11: where we're pulling it out of bodies, but actually on
Speaker 11: the streets when they're being.
Speaker 6: Seized, and.
Speaker 7: It is.
Speaker 11: Estimated to be between four and ten times more potents
Speaker 11: and sentinel, but you know, considerably less potent than car funnel, which,
Speaker 11: by the way, we are still seeing. I mean, we
Speaker 11: had nine cases of that last year, but total since
Speaker 11: last summer through the end of February, we've had fifty
Speaker 11: two cases and that were in the fifty two actual
Speaker 11: cases that has been found in mixtures. And that's out
Speaker 11: of over eighty three hundred mixtures that we evaluated last year.
Speaker 1: Wow, eighty three hundred different types of formulations designed to
Speaker 1: will kill people.
Speaker 11: Yeah, so the drug section, you know, evaluated they had
Speaker 11: over eighty three hundred cases and this popped up in
Speaker 11: fifty two. So we're aware of it. We know that
Speaker 11: our neighbor states down in Tennessee in particular, have had
Speaker 11: they've attributed to multiple deaths to it. We have not
Speaker 11: certified any depth due to cyclophene in our office because
Speaker 11: we've never seen it in large amounts, even in mixtures,
Speaker 11: and we've never seen it isolated. So it's always in
Speaker 11: mixtures and there's usually a much larger amount of sentinel
Speaker 11: mixed in with that.
Speaker 5: Is this coming in from out of country.
Speaker 11: As far as I know, because it is a synthetic opioid,
Speaker 11: it could be made anywhere, but more than likely it
Speaker 11: is coming in from out of the country.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's the thing.
Speaker 11: About heroin we were talking about, you know, heroin's and
Speaker 11: organic compounds. You have to worry about the weather, you
Speaker 11: have to worry about the poppies, you know, the growth
Speaker 11: your crops. Well, sentyl and sentyl variants and cyclophenes, these
Speaker 11: are all synthetics. They can made in a laugh.
Speaker 1: Laxhay Schamarco is the hemliconic corner of the news at
Speaker 1: lowest levels of OD deaths. She's seen in her fourteen
Speaker 1: year career as the corner of Hamlin County, which is
Speaker 1: great news. Now we're seeing new drugs come in all
Speaker 1: the time, like cychlorophine, which is stronger than a fentanyl,
Speaker 1: not as bad as car fentyl, but still that's the
Speaker 1: thing is these people who create these products are looking
Speaker 1: for different ways around the well, not around the law,
Speaker 1: but to get under the radar. And there's different traps
Speaker 1: out there, of course. And now we're seeing a spike
Speaker 1: in the amount of cocaine, and so i'd assume at
Speaker 1: some point cocaine will be laced with cychlorophine or something else.
Speaker 1: If we're not seeing that already, We've we.
Speaker 11: Have seen in some of the mixtures fentanyl and cocaine
Speaker 11: and other things mixed together.
Speaker 6: We have seen that.
Speaker 1: You've been tracking the epidemic for a years, seeing the
Speaker 1: waves shift all over. Does this to you feel like
Speaker 1: because you've seen this pattern before, does it feel like
Speaker 1: the beginning of another wave or is it too early
Speaker 1: or don't you think so?
Speaker 11: Honestly, we've been we were just talking about that in
Speaker 11: our manner, just meaning we've seen over the last you know, seven, eight,
Speaker 11: ten years, we've seen different spikes of different things that
Speaker 11: we thought, oh now he's got another one we got
Speaker 11: to worry about, you know, and this happens all the time.
Speaker 6: Like you said, it's a bit like whack a mole.
Speaker 11: You know the fact that we haven't had any cases
Speaker 11: recently showing up in any of the drugs. You know,
Speaker 11: maybe it's just maybe it's the supply and demand thing.
Speaker 11: Maybe it's just something they experimented with and maybe it'll
Speaker 11: go away. We're sort of cautious and we just keep
Speaker 11: an eye on these things to see if they become
Speaker 11: an issue. So far, we're just keeping an eye. We
Speaker 11: haven't seen anything particularly alarming in the trends, so we'll
Speaker 11: just keep watch on it. And you know, we have
Speaker 11: people in our drug section that are really good about
Speaker 11: scouring the social media bikes and reddits, spikes and whatnot.
Speaker 11: And you know, when something news starts popping out up
Speaker 11: and even before it hits our lab, they're already aware
Speaker 11: of it.
Speaker 5: It's about time we had a good news story.
Speaker 1: I think this is like a good news story, right,
Speaker 1: the fact that overdose deaths are they like, I think
Speaker 1: the only one talking about this.
Speaker 5: You know, it's doom and gloom in the news. It's
Speaker 5: a great story, you know.
Speaker 11: And I've been saying that for quite a while. The
Speaker 11: news usually covers the doom and gloom, and everybody seems
Speaker 11: to be, you know, inordinately interested in murders and you know, bombings.
Speaker 5: And everything else.
Speaker 11: Like you hardly ever get any good news. And the
Speaker 11: good news about this is is it, you know, keep
Speaker 11: up the good work. I mean, that's the message for me,
Speaker 11: is that what you're doing is working. So take heart
Speaker 11: in the fact that you know we are saving lives.
Speaker 11: It is not a well, this is an endless thing.
Speaker 11: We're never going to get our hands on it. No,
Speaker 11: we are never going to get rid of drugs in
Speaker 11: our community, in the United States and in the world.
Speaker 11: I mean they're out there. People have choices to make.
Speaker 11: It's educating people to make smarter choices. That's what we're
Speaker 11: trying to do. And the fact that we're saving lives
Speaker 11: means that it's working.
Speaker 1: It is congratulations on that, but especially fourteen years is
Speaker 1: our corner doc, the one doc you never want to see.
Speaker 1: But I guess if you saw you you wouldn't even
Speaker 1: know it. So happy anniversary.
Speaker 5: It's the viewing's stay right.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be a You don't want to
Speaker 1: be a patient, is what I'm saying, because not a
Speaker 1: good outcome.
Speaker 5: All the best you congratulations, will talk to some and
Speaker 5: be well, okay, thanks so much. All right, take care.
Speaker 7: There you go.
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Speaker 5: On seven hundred WLW Hello, wait for it, Wait for it?
Speaker 5: Wait for it? Do you hear that? Do you hear it?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 4: Wayne?
Speaker 5: Listen? Listen what waiting for the some pump noise to
Speaker 5: kick back on?
Speaker 13: Oh my gosh, every thirteen seconds or less. Yeah, that's
Speaker 13: some pump is an oldver drive. And there's a lot
Speaker 13: of wet basements unfortunately this morning.
Speaker 1: No daughter just texted me her basement's a little wet,
Speaker 1: so good day for our friends at the basement.
Speaker 5: Doctor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, call Bobby Miles. Bobby's Bobby. His crews are working
Speaker 1: non stop right now. Guarantee you got a wet basement.
Speaker 1: That's the people you want to call.
Speaker 5: They won't.
Speaker 1: That's a good deal. They'll take care of you. They'll
Speaker 1: hook you up, fair price, great job, warranted, that's what
Speaker 1: you want.
Speaker 13: But understand, I'm going to say you have to be
Speaker 13: patient because there are so many people. I was just
Speaker 13: looking peruising my Facebook page and there's like all kinds
Speaker 13: of help help.
Speaker 12: Oh full of water.
Speaker 13: Yeah, it is an ugly few days and the plumbers
Speaker 13: are going to be working over time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we warned you about making sure that some pump
Speaker 1: was working. It's too late now, yeah it is. It
Speaker 1: was too late. So yeah, we moved a new house
Speaker 1: over the summer. And uh, it's funny because you know
Speaker 1: the some pump well, and the pump itself is like
Speaker 1: right over the right under our bedroom. So every time
Speaker 1: it goes off, it like wakes you up in the
Speaker 1: middle of night, like I gotta I gotta get.
Speaker 5: Some sound insulation done there. I'll get around to it
Speaker 5: at some point.
Speaker 13: Although you know what, it's a little bit of a
Speaker 13: peace of mind because every time checks on and checks out,
Speaker 13: yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: But then you think like, oh my god, is it
Speaker 1: is it gonna ever gonna turn off? Is it gonna
Speaker 1: turn on? Is it flooding right now? I don't want
Speaker 1: to be reminded of it. I know, I know it's working,
Speaker 1: but I don't want to know it's working.
Speaker 10: I do.
Speaker 4: I like to know that it's working.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah. Before we get into your topic here, which
Speaker 5: is what.
Speaker 13: It's tax time and what what kind of tax items
Speaker 13: in your home and around your home?
Speaker 4: Can you possibly right off?
Speaker 1: Okay, before we get into that, I want to play
Speaker 1: this audio here if you have cause my I'll sit
Speaker 1: and watch like murder shows or war and my wife
Speaker 1: will sit on her phone and scroll Instagram and she's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you got to see this.
Speaker 5: This is audio of it.
Speaker 1: Because we always rip on hoas and just how insane
Speaker 1: this is. But this is great audio of a guy
Speaker 1: who got called before his Hoa's Homework Association about his
Speaker 1: light temperature.
Speaker 14: Listen, No, we're dressing while your house looks like a
Speaker 14: gas station at two am. You have five thousand kelvin, Carl,
Speaker 14: But cool light isn't neighborly and isn't who you want
Speaker 14: to be.
Speaker 4: We are a warm light community.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Carl, Yeah, Carl, get you put it together. It
Speaker 1: looks like a gas station. We're a warm light, We're neighboring.
Speaker 1: We're a warm light community. You got that's a problem
Speaker 1: with HOA. Busy bodies and I know they have a
Speaker 1: role and it's important, and you want to make sure
Speaker 1: maintain neighborhood standards and keep your property valves.
Speaker 5: You know, you don't want to.
Speaker 1: A semi parked in your front driveway all day long.
Speaker 1: You know, if if that's you and you need a park,
Speaker 1: your semi then you know, you can't have an h
Speaker 1: O A. But man, and some of these people are like,
Speaker 1: now we've got the light temperature police out there.
Speaker 5: You know what light temperature is.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, fluorescent lights are at a certain
Speaker 1: they call temperature, and you may go, yeah, it's kind
Speaker 1: of bright in here. Well, warm light is the nice
Speaker 1: soft you know yellow light bulbs and the more bright
Speaker 1: ones are more like daylight.
Speaker 5: And that's what they're talking about.
Speaker 1: But they're actually measuring how how much And it's measured
Speaker 1: in kelvin by the way, k E l v I
Speaker 1: N they're measuring.
Speaker 5: They're out there measuring the neighbors light temperature. That's insane.
Speaker 13: It is insane. Are you able to play that again?
Speaker 13: Because it's just precious.
Speaker 5: It is so it is so good. It is just
Speaker 5: so good.
Speaker 4: All right, a gas station.
Speaker 9: At two am?
Speaker 14: You want five thousand kelvin, Carl, the cool light isn't
Speaker 14: neighborly and isn't who you want to be.
Speaker 4: We are a warm light community.
Speaker 1: It is a neighborly Curl. It's not who you want, Curl.
Speaker 1: It's five thousand. It's five thousand, Calvin Curl, he's old beats.
Speaker 8: Oh my god.
Speaker 13: When I heard that, I had to play it like
Speaker 13: four times because I'm like, and then I had to
Speaker 13: share it.
Speaker 1: With Howling, just absolutely howling at that. It's got to
Speaker 1: be Florida. That's that's got Florida all over it. Right,
Speaker 1: she was one serious though I know it sounded like
Speaker 1: a bit. It did sound like a bit. I think
Speaker 1: the whole h O a channel with the crazies that
Speaker 1: could probably be like a whole segment at some point
Speaker 1: because it's just funny. Nothing you can do about it.
Speaker 1: You signed the deed. Well, I don't think in the
Speaker 1: it's indeed restriction. You signed the contract, right, I don't.
Speaker 13: Think in the HOA rules it says what your Calvin
Speaker 13: has to be for your.
Speaker 1: It's Calvin is our nephew. Calvin is okay Calvin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's something you don't need to know about. But
Speaker 1: I will say that wormlight is it's friendlier and in
Speaker 1: certainly if you have some. We had a neighbor that
Speaker 1: had put I don't know the CFC, remember those old
Speaker 1: curly que light bulbs in and it looked like CBG
Speaker 1: in their living room. But I'm like, I can shut
Speaker 1: my blinds. It doesn't bother me at all. But I
Speaker 1: don't know how you're living. It's given me a headache
Speaker 1: from this far away.
Speaker 7: But a.
Speaker 13: Lot of led lights there, they tend to be bright.
Speaker 13: I mean you you are complaining, old man about people
Speaker 13: driving with their headlights on and blinding you.
Speaker 4: You think that they have their brights on. But I
Speaker 4: think it's just a new.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a new ball. Some of them are right outrageous.
Speaker 1: But yeah, all right, let's talk about tax time here
Speaker 1: and deductions and everything else. If you're doing your own stuff.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 13: So while I'm not a tax advisor, many money god,
Speaker 13: thank goodness, right this time of year is you're swamped
Speaker 13: if you are.
Speaker 4: But there's so many.
Speaker 13: One in five, it's estimated one in five people in
Speaker 13: the Cincinnati area actually work from home or have a
Speaker 13: side business, a side hustle where they work from home,
Speaker 13: and they have the opportunity not for sure you got
Speaker 13: to talk to a tax person that's not me, But
Speaker 13: you may have the opportunity to write it off, Jerry,
Speaker 13: and have some write offs that will give you some
Speaker 13: tax benefits. And that's what we're talking about today. First
Speaker 13: and foremost, and the biggest one is the home office
Speaker 13: and the home office space has to be a space
Speaker 13: in your home that is dedicated to ninety percent of
Speaker 13: the time you do work in that space. So it
Speaker 13: can be an office, it can be a second bedroom,
Speaker 13: it can be a portion of your lower level. It
Speaker 13: can't just be the corner of your couch where you
Speaker 13: watch TV and get on your laptop. That doesn't count.
Speaker 13: And so homes with dedicated areas. Again, if you get
Speaker 13: a W two, you're probably not. You're probably not. It's
Speaker 13: not go to work for you. But just talk to
Speaker 13: your tax accountant. You have to also itemize, so if
Speaker 13: you do the easy thing, you're not going to be
Speaker 13: able to get these kinds of write offs. And it's
Speaker 13: interesting because if you do have a home based business
Speaker 13: and a lot of people they work from home, ei're
Speaker 13: fifty percent of the time, sixty percent of the time,
Speaker 13: or even more, you have an opportunity to write that
Speaker 13: off and not just the space. And with the space
Speaker 13: I think I have it, Yeah, five dollars per square
Speaker 13: foot of office space you could write off. And if
Speaker 13: you have a you know, a space of three hundred
Speaker 13: square feet or five hundred square feet, that's a write off.
Speaker 13: And then a portion of your utilities, Internet, homeowners insurance,
Speaker 13: and some repairs in that office may also be applicable.
Speaker 4: So you have to keep really good records.
Speaker 13: You can't just say you just can't, you know, give
Speaker 13: a number, just eyeball it, ballpark it, whatever. You have
Speaker 13: to have the data and the receipts to back it up.
Speaker 13: But if you have a good CPA, that can help
Speaker 13: you through that. The other item that a lot of
Speaker 13: people definitely have is your mortgage interest. They have not
Speaker 13: taken that away from us yet. There's been a lot
Speaker 13: of talk government talk about taking away the tax benefits
Speaker 13: of your mortgage interest. And your mortgage interest is that
Speaker 13: extra that you pay on top of your mortgage and
Speaker 13: usually you're paying cheese. You're paying mostly interest for the
Speaker 13: first five to seven years ten years of the mortgage itself.
Speaker 13: So it's a big write off and it's really good
Speaker 13: for younger homeowners, and that's something that you definitely want
Speaker 13: to use. Your property taxes can still be written off
Speaker 13: to a certain extent. And then this is the other
Speaker 13: one that I think is really important. And let's say
Speaker 13: you didn't do it last year, but you're thinking about
Speaker 13: doing some energy efficient upgrades in your home. You want
Speaker 13: to think about solar or a high efficiency heating and
Speaker 13: cooling system. Maybe you want to add new windows. It's
Speaker 13: time to add new windows, get the energy efficient ones.
Speaker 13: Talk to your accountant, talk to the people who are
Speaker 13: in installing them. Save your paperwork. That's really really important.
Speaker 13: And then insulation. Just adding insulation could be a potential
Speaker 13: for a tax benefit because it's going to cost you
Speaker 13: hundreds of dollars, maybe thousands of dollars, depending on what
Speaker 13: kind of insulation you add to your home.
Speaker 5: I thought on some of that went away. It didn't
Speaker 5: go in.
Speaker 4: There's always there.
Speaker 13: Are still some benefits. Yeah, that usually they and again
Speaker 13: the government it changes every single year, so you want
Speaker 13: to keep keep your eyes on that if you're doing
Speaker 13: some kind of upgrades, not only for your taxes, but
Speaker 13: for the valuation of your home. When I come into
Speaker 13: your home and try to get the value of your home,
Speaker 13: I'm looking at how old is your I'm looking at
Speaker 13: how old is your HVAC system. You know, again, those
Speaker 13: aren't sexy items necessarily, but they are very very important
Speaker 13: to new buyers. It's important for your insurance company, it's
Speaker 13: important for the value of your home. And when we
Speaker 13: always talk about, yeah, let's update our kitchens and bathrooms.
Speaker 13: Well that's important too, but some of these other energy
Speaker 13: efficient upgrades could also help you with your taxes and
Speaker 13: also increase the value of your home.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the roof thing, the older your roof is,
Speaker 1: the more cost you and homeowners insurance.
Speaker 4: That is true.
Speaker 13: That is true, and a lot of insurance companies are
Speaker 13: really cracking down and they want to know when you
Speaker 13: buy a new home, they want to know how old
Speaker 13: that roof is. And if let's say it's a twenty
Speaker 13: year old roof, your rates are going to be a
Speaker 13: lot higher. And you're only going to get now. It
Speaker 13: used to beckon, I'm going to date myself now. I
Speaker 13: think we had two thousand, two thousand and eight too
Speaker 13: that we had like a hurricane come through Cincinnati and
Speaker 13: it blew everybody's roof off, and so there were entire
Speaker 13: neighborhoods that were getting new roofs and it was mostly
Speaker 13: insurance claims.
Speaker 4: And with that, you know, that was a good thing.
Speaker 13: But a lot of a lot of insurance companies are saying, okay, well,
Speaker 13: if that roof was ten years old, I'm only going
Speaker 13: to give the value of a ten year old. I'm
Speaker 13: going to amortize it or what is the word I want?
Speaker 7: Is that right?
Speaker 4: It's not amortized.
Speaker 5: To appreciate.
Speaker 4: That's it. You're going to get the appreciation.
Speaker 5: I appreciate what. I'd appreciate you so much. Thanks for
Speaker 5: what you do.
Speaker 4: Thank you. You're welcome.
Speaker 5: Did you in a home office deductions?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I did, Yeah, home on we're talking about you're not
Speaker 1: paying attention to I was trying to figure out what
Speaker 1: this leak is here in this room in the studio
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 13: So oh my gosh, yeah, home office deductions, it is
Speaker 13: out and one out of five it's that's really high.
Speaker 4: I didn't know that it was. That's high, right, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, that's a surprisingly high number that it was probably
Speaker 1: higher in Cobb's, much higher in COVID. But for those
Speaker 1: people doing the return to work to return to office
Speaker 1: thing rt O, I don't think every one hundred percent
Speaker 1: back to office if you can do work.
Speaker 5: My brother works remotely, for crying out.
Speaker 4: Loud, now goes into the office one day a week.
Speaker 5: That's it.
Speaker 4: So the rest of the week, whether he's on the
Speaker 4: road or he's.
Speaker 13: On working in his basement, whatever, he's office but yeah,
Speaker 13: nearly one in five workers have worked from home. Uh,
Speaker 13: if you're an entrepreneur, if you have a side gig,
Speaker 13: I mean, it doesn't have to be your full time job.
Speaker 13: That's the other thing that a lot of people don't understand.
Speaker 13: It can just be a side gig and you're spending
Speaker 13: hours in wherever, in a specific room. You can potentially
Speaker 13: write that off and have a tax benefit, and so
Speaker 13: that can help you with Uh. It's really it's fascinating
Speaker 13: what you can and can't do. And because the tax
Speaker 13: code is like monstrous, you really want to get somebody
Speaker 13: who knows what they're doing, because the one thing that
Speaker 13: nobody wants is, oh, well I use this office to
Speaker 13: work from home, but I'm a W two employee and
Speaker 13: I have an office at work. Then you probably can't
Speaker 13: write off your home office, got it. And that's the
Speaker 13: one thing you better. You don't want the I R. S.
Speaker 13: Got it to come after you for for any kind
Speaker 13: of no.
Speaker 1: No, no that that is that behavior is frowned upon
Speaker 1: in this room, this leaky, leaky room. I'm sorry, I'm
Speaker 1: distracted by the flood here. I thought it's a dripover.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure it out right now, I
Speaker 1: got my You are on the sixth floor remodeling hat
Speaker 1: on now at this point, so it's probably it's probably not.
Speaker 1: That's probably just the bodies up on seven. I don't know,
Speaker 1: all right. So my wife Michelle Sloan's ownsals Holmes dot
Speaker 1: com openhouse show. That's via the iHeartRadio app and the
Speaker 1: podcast and of course on YouTube as well. At Remax
Speaker 1: time in Mainville. Good luck keeping that basement dry. I
Speaker 1: love you, gotta go, gotta go, gotta go. We got
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