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Speaker 1: Well, he's not going to get that opportunity against the

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Speaker 8: Thank you so much, No problem, Thanks mom, take care.

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Speaker 1: Our friend Lee Sterling is with us, speaking of greatness.

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Speaker 1: Paramount Sports dot Com makes us money every week on

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Speaker 1: college and pro football. Lee, how are we doing?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing good, probably better than your defense, This is

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Speaker 3: I'll never forget this. My high school coach, freshman year

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Speaker 1: Yes, Lee, I'm not going to disagree with anything you said.

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Speaker 1: We're not off to a good start. Paramount sports dot Com.

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Speaker 3: they create turnovers. I hate to say it, wrong team

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Speaker 3: favored here. Chicago wins again here twenty seven to twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Rough weekend.

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Speaker 1: Not a good weekend. Your game of the weekend lead

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Speaker 3: Good game here. Both teams need to win this if

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Speaker 1: going to make our guest wait though. Richard Patino is

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Speaker 1: set to begin year one as the head coach of

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Speaker 1: the Xavier men's basketball program, as the Musketeers will host

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Speaker 1: Marist on Monday night. That is a seven to fifteen

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Speaker 1: tip off at the Centaz Center. And it's awesome to

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Speaker 1: have coach Patino with us. Richard, It's good to have you.

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Speaker 1: How are you.

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Speaker 2: Doing great? Mother? Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on. You have even in an

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Speaker 1: era where there's more turnover than ever before, more player movement,

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Speaker 1: this isn't easy. Twelve new players, one freshman, eleven transfers

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Speaker 1: for a coach in year one at the program, over

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Speaker 1: the weeks of practice, the exhibition game, all the offseason workouts.

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Speaker 1: What have you come to learn about your team?

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Speaker 2: Well, the attitude and the effort is great, you know.

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Speaker 11: I think that's what you're trying to establish early in

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Speaker 11: this process. I mean, it's certainly never ideal to add

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Speaker 11: twelve new players, but you know, I think whenever there's

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Speaker 11: a coaching change now that's going to be more frequent,

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Speaker 11: you know. But they've been very, very consistent with the attitude.

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Speaker 11: The effort's been really good. Now now it's about the

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Speaker 11: execution and just like what goes into winning collectively as

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Speaker 11: a group, and you know, that's what we're going to

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Speaker 11: have to figure out kind of on the fly, you know.

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Speaker 2: So it's a challenge, but it's a fun challenge.

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Speaker 1: What are you looking forward to finding out about your

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Speaker 1: team starting on Monday?

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Speaker 11: Well, I mean, certainly getting the win, you know, we

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Speaker 11: can't take anything for granted as we as we build

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Speaker 11: this thing, and you know, it's it's you can't reference

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Speaker 11: back to the past of last year. I can only

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Speaker 11: really do it with Philip Rvichi and Jova Malichvis who

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Speaker 11: were on my team last year New Mexico.

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Speaker 2: So you know, it's all kind of it's a blank canvas.

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Speaker 11: But you know, can we put together a great game

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Speaker 11: plan over the next couple of days for Maris? You know,

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Speaker 11: Maris is a team with some returners, so it's a

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Speaker 11: team that won twenty games last year, So we can't

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Speaker 11: take anything for granted.

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Speaker 2: And you know, we've just got to We're.

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Speaker 11: Starting at the bottom right now now and we're gonna

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Speaker 11: have to earn everything.

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Speaker 1: So what you're doing is difficult, right And I could

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Speaker 1: say that, but take me and take me inside. What's

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Speaker 1: been the most difficult part of trying to form a

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Speaker 1: team together with twelve guys from other places.

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Speaker 11: I always say, the biggest difference between where I was

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Speaker 11: at in the stage in New Mexico and where I'm

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Speaker 11: at the stage in Xavier is just the confidence of

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Speaker 11: the group, you know, I think, and it takes time

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Speaker 11: to build that We were in my last year or

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Speaker 11: two at New Mexico extremely confident. You know that we

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Speaker 11: can meet anybody, and that's because we were able to

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Speaker 11: beat some really good teams, you know.

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Speaker 2: So it's you can't really fake it.

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Speaker 11: You know, as a coach, you've got to put them

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Speaker 11: in a position to succeed, but they need to see it,

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Speaker 11: they need to feel it. And you know, it's like

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Speaker 11: anything else that you do. You taste a little bit

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Speaker 11: of success, you want more of it, you know, so

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Speaker 11: you do your very best to kind of draw from

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Speaker 11: past experiences, but they're going to have to go through

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Speaker 11: it collectively as a group on the court.

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Speaker 2: And that's why.

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Speaker 11: You know, as many of these early games as you

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Speaker 11: can play, they're really really beneficial for.

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Speaker 1: Your I know you want to play fast, can you

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Speaker 1: with this bunch?

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Speaker 2: Well, I would tell you this. Everybody says they want

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Speaker 2: to play fast.

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Speaker 11: Everybody says it, but when it's time to do it,

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Speaker 11: it's not as easy.

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Speaker 2: And that's what I've seen.

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Speaker 11: You know, what I've drawn from the two exhibition games

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Speaker 11: was fatigue was absolutely a factor. So whether that's for

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Speaker 11: me as a coach, Okay, we got to get them

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Speaker 11: out of the game, or the player needs to push

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Speaker 11: through it a little bit. That's kind of the balance

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Speaker 11: that I'm trying to figure out right now.

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Speaker 2: So you know, we've got we've got a lot of guys.

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Speaker 11: That are injured, interchangeable, so I think maybe early in

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Speaker 11: the year I'm going to have to sell a little

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Speaker 11: bit more, which is fine. But you know, it's certainly

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Speaker 11: the style that we want to play. But you're going

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Speaker 11: to have games where you're playing too fast, and I

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Speaker 11: think the thing you're trying to figure out or explain

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Speaker 11: to them is we do want to play fast, but

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Speaker 11: that does not mean that we want to shoot fast.

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Speaker 2: That does not.

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Speaker 11: Mean that we want to be, you know, all over

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Speaker 11: the place defensively. But certainly tempo is a big part

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Speaker 11: of our game plan.

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Speaker 1: No question about that. Richard Patino is with us. The

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Speaker 1: Musketeers begin year one of the Richard Patino Era on Monday,

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Speaker 1: hosting Marist. That is a seven to fifteen tip off

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Speaker 1: at the Centas Center. I think a lot of what

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Speaker 1: you're talking about to me sounds like trying to find

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Speaker 1: out who can do what and who can do what

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Speaker 1: in actual games that the count. How how fluid are

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Speaker 1: the roles on your team with the opener less than

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Speaker 1: a week away.

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Speaker 11: I think they're very fluid right now. I mean I

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Speaker 11: would say I have switched lineups. You know, we didn't

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Speaker 11: do a lot of practicing over the summer. Who's more

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Speaker 11: install stuff and you know, skill development. But I think

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Speaker 11: everybody's got to be ready. You know, our system offensively

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00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 11: is pretty interchangeable, where like ones, twos, and threes are

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Speaker 11: all kind of the same, and the fours and the

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Speaker 11: fives are kind of the same. But yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 11: everybody's so unproven that I'm going to have to be

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Speaker 11: you know, I'm going to have to be open to

604
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 11: giving everybody a shot early to see kind of what

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Speaker 11: they have.

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Speaker 1: You talk about playing fast, I know there's also a

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Speaker 1: way you want to play defensively. Right you're always putting

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Speaker 1: ball pressure on opposing team's high turnover margin at New Mexico.

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Speaker 1: Are you able to replicate that style on the other

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Speaker 1: end with these guys.

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Speaker 2: That's a work in progress for sure. You know.

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Speaker 11: Last year at New Mexico we've built you know, we

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Speaker 11: were nineteenth in the country and defense, which is obviously terrific.

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Speaker 11: The year before we were twenty three in defense. So

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Speaker 11: you know, we're certainly working towards that. You know, I

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Speaker 11: think we can certainly block more shots than we've done,

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Speaker 11: you know, and again we want to turn teams over,

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Speaker 11: but not at the you know, expense of good solid

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Speaker 11: defense either. So you know, it's we're trying to speed

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Speaker 11: up the ball, we're trying to get it to the

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Speaker 11: rim and then disrupt it at the rim. But you know,

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Speaker 11: I would say the first two games were definitely not

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Speaker 11: where we need to be with that.

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Speaker 1: What are the twenty four to forty eight hours before

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Speaker 1: a season openerfe for you?

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Speaker 11: You know, the good part about the exhibition games is

627
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Speaker 11: you kind of get out of the way about, Hey,

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Speaker 11: this is what the game, the routine is going to

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Speaker 11: look like. You know, this is the time we want

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Speaker 11: you at the arena, this is what time we want

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Speaker 11: you on the.

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Speaker 2: Court, all those things.

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Speaker 11: But you know, by the time you get to the game,

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Speaker 11: the hey is kind of in the barn, so to speak.

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Speaker 11: You know, you've done all your your scouting and your preparation,

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00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 11: and you know, you go shorter and shorter with your practices.

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Speaker 11: You know, you really try to keep it as light

638
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 11: as you possibly can game before so that everybody's healthy

639
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 11: and ready to go. But I think more than anything,

640
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 11: it's building confidence. But the way that you building confidence

641
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 11: is obviously through preparation and hard work in practice. So

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Speaker 11: you know, for me personally, it's just getting my mind right.

643
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Speaker 11: You know, I asked them to be at their best,

644
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Speaker 11: and you know I also need to be at my best.

645
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Speaker 11: So just blocking out all distractions, whether it's you know,

646
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 11: media obligations, tickets, all those things, so that game day

647
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 11: we can really relock in on getting a win.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned the preseason. It's it's been interesting to watch

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Speaker 1: college basketball evolve where you know, the exhibition season used

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Speaker 1: to be a couple of games against you know, traveling

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Speaker 1: squads of former college players, athletes and actions squads like that,

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Speaker 1: and then D one teams could play D two teams,

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Speaker 1: and then we have the era of secret scrimmages, which

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Speaker 1: would you guys still do even though we're not supposed

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Speaker 1: to know about them, And now we're playing full scale

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Speaker 1: exhibition games high major versus high major in some instances.

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Speaker 1: If I made you college basketballs are, what would the

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Speaker 1: preseason look like?

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Speaker 11: I would say three to four exhibition games. You know,

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Speaker 11: I think they're really really beneficial. You know, if I

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Speaker 11: was in charge, of everything. I'd probably say the more

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Speaker 11: that you play, the less media and fans start to understand,

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Speaker 11: they start to realize, like they don't really mean anything.

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Speaker 11: I think the beauty of college basketball is you don't

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Speaker 11: play eighty two games, so every game counts. The tough

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Speaker 11: part right now is you know, you have the social

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Speaker 11: media outrage if you lose a game, You've got the

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Speaker 11: media coverage because it is kind of cool, like, you know,

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Speaker 11: you see some cool games and you want to but

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Speaker 11: like the coaches are not really trying to win. They're

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Speaker 11: tinkering with things, they're they're playing different lineups.

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Speaker 2: So you know, if I had my way, it would be.

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Speaker 11: Let's go play four of them and let's all collectively

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Speaker 11: understand that the games don't mattter, you know. But that's

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Speaker 11: obviously tough to get people to figure out because they're

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Speaker 11: excited about it and they're eager to talk about their teams.

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Speaker 1: You were kind enough to join me the day after

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Speaker 1: you were formally introduced as a Xavier's head coach. So

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Speaker 1: it's been seven months. What have you come to learn

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Speaker 1: about Xavier University and the men's basketball program.

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Speaker 11: I think the biggest difference professionally for me. Now, I

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Speaker 11: went to Providence College, so that was a school very

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Speaker 11: similar to Xavier and size and no football. But it's

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Speaker 11: the no football thing that is really really different. We

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Speaker 11: are the football program to Xavier University, so it's a

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Speaker 11: big deal.

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Speaker 2: And you know, when you're.

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Speaker 11: At these football schools, you kind of understand the give

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Speaker 11: and take of you know, football needs some more resources

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Speaker 11: and you understand it because it's an expensive sport to run.

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Speaker 11: So just the dynamic of not having football being at

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Speaker 11: a smaller school, that's definitely been unique.

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Speaker 2: You know, you used to have kind of.

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Speaker 11: You would have your fall schedule, You're going to these

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Speaker 11: football games, You're bringing recruits into those things, and it

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Speaker 11: really would take up a whole day, where now, whether

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Speaker 11: it's recruiting visits or just your weekend schedule certainly feels

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Speaker 11: a lot different.

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Speaker 1: Makes sense. I can't thank you enough. I know you

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Speaker 1: got a full plate. Best of luck on Monday and

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Speaker 1: all season long, and hopefully we can do it occasionally

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Speaker 1: as a season on folds.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much, coach, absolutely thanks for having me. Appreciate

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Speaker 2: you got it.

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Speaker 1: Richard Patino, the head men's basketball coach at Xavier University.

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Speaker 1: By the way, the first week at the Cintas Center.

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Speaker 1: There are two men's games, two women's games, so they

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Speaker 1: the men play Marist on opening night Monday and then

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Speaker 1: have a game against Lemoyne on Thursday. The women's team

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Speaker 1: will play on Tuesday against New Haven and then a

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Speaker 1: game on Friday against Perdue Fort Wayne. And for all

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Speaker 1: of that hometown friendly pricing, you know, it's five to

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Speaker 1: one three week, so you can get five dollars twelve

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Speaker 1: ounce draft beers, you can get one dollar small popcorns.

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Speaker 1: You can get bottle water for three bucks, and that's

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Speaker 1: available for all those games. And they have three dollars

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Speaker 1: beer night. I think I'm going to this game November tenth,

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Speaker 1: eight thirty tip off against Santa Clair. Three dollars beers,

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Speaker 1: bud like cans for three bucks. Can't beat that. And

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Speaker 1: each purchase comes with a Xavier bud like Kancouzi or

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Speaker 1: T shirt while supplies last. While we are talking about

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Speaker 1: the Musketeers, congratulations go out to Drew Lavender, obviously a

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Speaker 1: terrific player who came to Xavier and helped them get

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Speaker 1: to the Sweet sixteen to the lead eight in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and eight. Melanie Balcom the Pride of Trenton, New Jersey,

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Speaker 1: did an awesome job with the women's basketball program and

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Speaker 1: Andy Pope from the men's golf program. Those three individuals

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Speaker 1: today were announced as the twenty twenty six Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame induction class for the XU Athletics Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday we did the Chad and Rick College Basketball Spectacular.

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Speaker 1: If you missed it, it's available on the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 1: Podcasts of the show our service of long Neeck Sports

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Speaker 1: Guirrel So Chad, Brenda, Rick Boring joined us for the

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Speaker 1: better part of the five o'clock hour to talk college hoops.

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Speaker 1: U see football has a big game on Saturday on

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Speaker 1: the road against Utah, and so because we talked hoops yesterday,

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Speaker 1: and by the way, it's worth mentioning you just sent

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Speaker 1: out a statement Jalen Haynes has had successful knee surgery,

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Speaker 1: so that story advances. They're still saying he's out and

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Speaker 1: definitely beyond that, We've got a football game to discuss

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Speaker 1: with our guy, Chad. Bearcat Journal dot com is the website.

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Speaker 1: How you doing, sir, I'm good. I have a question

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Speaker 1: for you.

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Speaker 12: Oh no, to start this off, nor so, I was

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Speaker 12: on with a Utah radio station earlier today. Okay, and

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Speaker 12: and they open with, you know, Chad Cincinnati. It's a

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Speaker 12: great story and all, but I don't know what to

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Speaker 12: make of them. I look at their schedule and they

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Speaker 12: haven't beaten anybody, and I don't know if anybody's gonna

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Speaker 12: tell them or not. But Utah played two good teams.

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Speaker 2: And they've lost to both of them.

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Speaker 12: Does that seem like an odd starting point for you

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Speaker 12: for them to come at.

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Speaker 1: Me with that somewhat? I do think. I do think

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Speaker 1: there's I think it's kind of what makes game on

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Speaker 1: Saturday interesting. I think it's a weird starting off point

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Speaker 1: for a conversation, but I think there's a legitimate sense

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Speaker 1: of like, all right, you see has a good record,

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Speaker 1: they're an improved team, and there's lots to like about it,

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Speaker 1: but there's a hesitancy to include them in a larger

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Speaker 1: discussion about the Big Twelve championship until they win a

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Speaker 1: game like the one they have in front of them

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Speaker 1: on Saturday, And if they do that, then the conversation

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Speaker 1: goes into hyperdrive. But I think when you've gotten through

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Speaker 1: this much of the conference schedule without a loss, I

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Speaker 1: think that to a degree offsets the they haven't played

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Speaker 1: anybody think because it's hard to win in league play.

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Speaker 12: I agree, I just I felt it was a little

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Speaker 12: like it was kind of a and the rest of

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Speaker 12: the interview was good, like the guys were good, but

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Speaker 12: like we're starting there like and Utah Like, we don't

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Speaker 12: know a lot of Well, maybe we do.

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Speaker 2: Know about Utah.

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Speaker 12: They've played two good teams or lost to both of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm surprised the number is as hefty as it is.

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Speaker 1: Quite frankly, I thought Cincinnati would be underdogs. I thought

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Speaker 1: it'd be a touchdown, maybe seven and a half. It's

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Speaker 1: climbed to ten, ten and a half depending on where

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Speaker 1: you go. So this is a pretty uphill battle. What

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Speaker 1: is the biggest part of the challenge on Saturday?

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Speaker 12: Can they be who they've been? And what I mean

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Speaker 12: by that is they haven't let Britain and Soursby get

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Speaker 12: sacked two on the ear. They haven't turned the ball over.

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Speaker 12: I mean it's been a it feels like it's been

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Speaker 12: forever since Cincinnati had a kind of careless turnover that

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Speaker 12: really hurt them. Special teams has been awesome. They've been

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Speaker 12: winning field position, Like you know, I love that SAT

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Speaker 12: hasn't gone to the cliches as much as we've heard

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Speaker 12: here in the past. But this is the epitome of

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Speaker 12: complimentary football, right Like defense keeps the other team out

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Speaker 12: of the end zone, offense takes care of the ball.

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Speaker 12: Special teams is dominant. Offensive line is awesome in you know,

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Speaker 12: the in the in the run and the pass game.

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Speaker 12: Like these are the reasons that Cincinnati is winning. They

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Speaker 12: don't have overwhelming talent, but other than some penalties, mo,

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Speaker 12: I don't recall a Cincinnati team being this clean through

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Speaker 12: eight games. Like it's been enjoyable to watch because they

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Speaker 12: don't hurt themselves. And it felt like for two years

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Speaker 12: that's all we talked about, is can this team stops

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Speaker 12: shooting itself in the foot, and if they could, it

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Speaker 12: felt like they could be pretty good. You're right, stop

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Speaker 12: shooting themselves in the foot. They're having a great year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no doubt about it. The offensive line play

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Speaker 1: and the ability to not turn it over. It's remarkable

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Speaker 1: how efficient you can be when you have those two things.

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Speaker 1: How worrisome is Utah's running game.

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Speaker 12: Worries them? I mean they use they essentially use six

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Speaker 12: offensive line an all game. They have a tight end

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Speaker 12: that's on the injuryy board. He was a defensive lineman.

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Speaker 12: They moved him to tight end. He is essentially an

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Speaker 12: extra offensive lineman. If he plays, you're just gonna it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 12: Like it's funny watching this guy play is like a

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Speaker 12: six offensive lineman. He just destroys people. He goes in motion,

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Speaker 12: just keeps on running, and just plows into a linebacker

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Speaker 12: in one hundred miles an hour. I don't know, like

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Speaker 12: I think the thing for me and probably everybody. What's

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Speaker 12: the snap counted downtake Orleans. If it's forty forty five snaps,

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Speaker 12: I feel pretty good. If it's twenty seven snaps, I

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Speaker 12: don't feel as good, and it's probably better off listed

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Speaker 12: as like a percentage, right. If it's fifty sixty percent

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Speaker 12: of the snaps, I feel great about them being able

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Speaker 12: to limit the run. If it's twenty five, thirty, thirty

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Speaker 12: five percent on the snaps, I don't feel nearly as

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Speaker 12: good because he just takes up so much attention, so

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Speaker 12: much space, and you're playing a team that, I mean,

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Speaker 12: most of their offensive line is going to be in

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Speaker 12: the NFL. This is one of the best offensive lines

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Speaker 12: in the country. They're massive, and stopping them is really,

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Speaker 12: really difficult. This has been outside of Oklahoma State and

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Speaker 12: Bowling Green a pretty good run defense, but they haven't

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Speaker 12: faced anything like this.

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Speaker 1: I am way late, so I don't have a ton

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Speaker 1: of time do I assume Evan Pryor is not going

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Speaker 1: to play.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, that's a fair assumption. Hopefully they will have him

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Speaker 12: back by the Arizona game. And I can't believe what

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Speaker 12: you've done to me in the last two segments.

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Speaker 2: Now what what.

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Speaker 12: I lost time to Richard Pattino.

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Speaker 1: I had Wes Miller on the show yesterday. I had

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Speaker 1: Darren Horne on the show yesterday. I love having Richard

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Speaker 1: Patino on always the folks at Xavier, always very accommodating

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Speaker 1: the timing. But putting him up against you, I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure who disliked it more than are you. So there

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Speaker 1: you go.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Thanks.

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Speaker 1: that's cran enter it now all right, there you go

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Speaker 1: minute late. My apology, six after four. This is ESPN

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Speaker 1: fifteen thirty on Moegger. Thanks so much for listening. Hope

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Speaker 1: you're having an awesome Thursday. Here's what an awesome Sunday

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Speaker 1: will be like. Okay, At one o'clock, the Bengals beat

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Speaker 1: the Bears and then reeling from that. Jake zivin Apple

871
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Speaker 1: TV MLS Season Pass Bears fan channels all of his

872
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Speaker 1: efforts into calling FC Cincinnati winning Game two against Columbus,

873
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Speaker 1: and then the Orange and Blue celebrate on their field

874
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Speaker 1: six point thirty on Sunday night. Game two of this series,

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Speaker 1: Hell is real winner advances to the conference semi finals.

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Speaker 1: Jake has the call and kind enough to join us.

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Speaker 1: I selfishly, I hope that's how Sunday works. Jake, how

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Speaker 1: are you?

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Speaker 9: I'm great? Look, I'm happy.

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Speaker 11: I'll be in the state of Ohio on Sunday where

881
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Speaker 11: I can watch the Bears game and it'll just be

882
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Speaker 11: on Network TV right like it. It's hard for me

883
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Speaker 11: to watch the Bears game out where I live in Portland,

884
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Speaker 11: so I can watch my Bears similar spot maybe to

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Speaker 11: the band. I'm not convincing the Bears this year and

886
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 11: Dangles obviously having a tough time as well, so we'll

887
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Speaker 11: see both teams need to win.

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Speaker 1: I think no question about that. FC Cincinnati needs to win,

889
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Speaker 1: and I know they did one nothing in the series.

890
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Speaker 1: I don't want this to go to a game three.

891
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: There's too much bad history with Columbus. Close the deal.

892
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Speaker 1: The good news is I felt like I felt like

893
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Speaker 1: they were really in control on Monday night. Right Columbus

894
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Speaker 1: possesses the ball a lot, FC Cincinnati was able to

895
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Speaker 1: limit that. It didn't feel like once they scored, like

896
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Speaker 1: they were hanging on for deer for deer life, like

897
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Speaker 1: if you're you want to win, but if you kind

898
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Speaker 1: of want to make a statement that you know we

899
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Speaker 1: can win the East, I thought they did that.

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Speaker 11: I agree with you, Mo, I think that Columbus were

901
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Speaker 11: not as dangerous as we're used to them being. And

902
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Speaker 11: the Cincinnati fans know better than anybody what's these Wilford

903
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Speaker 11: Nazi Columbus Crew teams look like at their best in

904
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Speaker 11: the attack where it's the letless and it's rampant, and

905
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Speaker 11: to your point, even if you beat them, you're.

906
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Speaker 9: Just kind of hanging on. And it wasn't the case.

907
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Speaker 9: On Monday night. Cincinnati were really good.

908
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Speaker 11: I thought they got everything right from a tactical perspective,

909
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Speaker 11: and they were able to neutralize Columbus, who also to

910
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Speaker 11: be fair or missing their new designated player striker number

911
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Speaker 11: nine with Sama Bua Lee, and I feel like the

912
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Speaker 11: attack didn't have that fight without him and he's still

913
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Speaker 11: out for least game two, and then I assume game

914
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Speaker 11: three as well if there is one. And then Cincinnati,

915
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Speaker 11: to your point, did enough in the attack. They created

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Speaker 11: more chances than Columbus and ultimately they found the one

917
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Speaker 11: goal and that was the difference in the game.

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Speaker 1: What's the adjustment you expect from Columbus on Sunday.

919
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Speaker 11: I think they'll be a little more dynamic going forward.

920
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Speaker 11: I think they're going to try to get their wing

921
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Speaker 11: backs involved a little bit more and just try to

922
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Speaker 11: go go quicker. I mean, they were not in sync

923
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Speaker 11: as they usually are, and they're a team that when

924
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Speaker 11: they're flying, it just looks it looks like it's like

925
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Speaker 11: heart almost right, It's like a symphony. It's like this

926
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Speaker 11: piece and this piece, and they know exactly where everybody's

927
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Speaker 11: gonna be, and they can find spaces that you're not

928
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Speaker 11: ready for, and they weren't that way.

929
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Speaker 9: I think they'll be more ready. I'm interested to see.

930
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Speaker 11: Who starts in the attack, Will Will Fernanzi go back

931
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Speaker 11: to Daniel Gozdok, who they spent a lot of money

932
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Speaker 11: to acquire from the Philadelphia Union in April and it

933
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Speaker 11: hasn't worked out to the extent that people would have expected.

934
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Speaker 11: But to me, that front three other than Diego ROSSI

935
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Speaker 11: didn't really threaten Cincinnati enough on Game one. Will he

936
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Speaker 11: really kind of rolled the dice and say, all right, look, god, Doc,

937
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 11: you're still a main man. We're paying a lot of

938
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Speaker 11: money to you, and we paid a lot of money

939
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Speaker 11: for you. Now's the time to shine and go back

940
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Speaker 11: to him start. I'm curious to see if that's the

941
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Speaker 11: move on Sunday.

942
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Speaker 1: I don't know that you could have asked Chris Albright

943
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Speaker 1: to be more active during the transfer window than he

944
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Speaker 1: was late summer and did so with the stated goal

945
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Speaker 1: of we're trying to win that We're trying to win

946
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Speaker 1: the MLS Cup this year. These are the things I

947
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Speaker 1: need to do. They bring back, Brenner. Do you believe

948
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Speaker 1: that those series of moves positioned this team to at

949
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Speaker 1: least get to the final?

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Speaker 11: I think well, man, I think they've done as well

951
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Speaker 11: as they could to your point, and getting to the

952
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Speaker 11: final in its own right is going to be a

953
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Speaker 11: massive task in the Eastern Conference because the.

954
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Speaker 9: East is so good.

955
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Speaker 11: But I think they have as good of a chance

956
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Speaker 11: as anybody, and not just Brenner. Samuel Geedy. They love

957
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 11: him and look he started over Obina Lobodo.

958
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Speaker 12: Who.

959
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Speaker 9: Got from an injury.

960
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Speaker 11: But Wobodo started and played forty five minutes on decision day,

961
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Speaker 11: and Pat Newton said that Guide didn't because he was

962
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Speaker 11: coming back from international duty.

963
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Speaker 9: He was with I think the full Baki in under

964
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Speaker 9: twenty one team, so he had a lot of travel.

965
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Speaker 11: But now Wobado has you know, look he went forty

966
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Speaker 11: five minutes, he started, and he probably could have started

967
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Speaker 11: Game one, maybe not gone ninety minutes. But Pat Noon

968
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Speaker 11: went with Samuel Ghee and Overdo played what ten minutes

969
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Speaker 11: to the bench, So that shows you what they think

970
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Speaker 11: of Samuel Gee, how much trust they have in him,

971
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Speaker 11: whether you know. As the playoffs won, Cincinnati continues on

972
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Speaker 11: will it be GEDI, Will it be Wobodo in that

973
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Speaker 11: spot next to Buka? I don't know, but it's it's

974
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Speaker 11: another big move I think in the summer that maybe

975
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Speaker 11: went under the radar, overshadowed by Brenner. But a guy

976
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Speaker 11: who's really helping this team right now.

977
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Speaker 1: Philly wins game one, New York City wins Game one,

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Speaker 1: Miami wins Game one, FC Cincinnati wins game one. Is

979
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Speaker 1: there a takeaway from the first series of games in

980
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Speaker 1: the East.

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Speaker 11: Overall, so far in these playoffs, it's the dominance of

982
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Speaker 11: home teams. There's only been one away team that's won

983
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Speaker 11: a game, and that was the team you just mentioned,

984
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Speaker 11: New York City beating Charlotte, which to me that four

985
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Speaker 11: or five was the most kind of up in the

986
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Speaker 11: air of the series. But I think all of the

987
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 11: teams that lost Game one are also really good, and

988
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Speaker 11: it wouldn't surprise me if any of them win Game two.

989
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 11: Of course, that includes the Columbus crew, right who who

990
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 11: were a fantastic team. Chicago took Philly the penalties. Nashville

991
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Speaker 11: the team that I think of all the teams out East,

992
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Speaker 11: the team that didn't show up to the to the

993
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Speaker 11: biggest extent on Game one. They were not very good

994
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 11: against Miami and controlled that game. They've got a big

995
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Speaker 11: task ahead in Game two. And from a Cincinnati perspective,

996
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 11: you're watching that that's Saturday night, and you know that

997
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 11: if Miami wins that in game two.

998
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 2: They're through the Semis.

999
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 11: And now if you're Cincinnati and you win game two,

1000
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 11: who's next for you?

1001
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Speaker 9: It's it's Lional Messi.

1002
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Speaker 11: It's into Miami coming to TQL Stadium in a conference

1003
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Speaker 11: semi final.

1004
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,959
Speaker 9: That would be box office. That would be an incredible game.

1005
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 11: But book both those teams that have to get through

1006
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Speaker 11: their their their their Round one series that they're in

1007
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Speaker 11: right now.

1008
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: I'm petty. I just want to see Cincinnati to celebrate

1009
00:51:59,000 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: on their field.

1010
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 11: Yeah, I blame you, of course, of course. Look and

1011
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 11: it'd be a little bit of paybacks in twenty twenty three,

1012
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 11: wouldn't it a little bit the Columbus crew celebrated winning

1013
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Speaker 11: the East and advancing the MLS Caveatkuo Stadium in pretty

1014
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 11: dramatic comeback fashion. I think it would be cathartic for

1015
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Speaker 11: a lot of Cincinnati supporters. What I've learned from calling

1016
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Speaker 11: a lot of these games is there is the something,

1017
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Speaker 11: the something you know, yellow and black kind of hanging

1018
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Speaker 11: over Cincinnati supporters right Like, Columbus have gotten the better

1019
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Speaker 11: of Cincinnati in big games. And I think for Cincinnati,

1020
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Speaker 11: if they can turn that around this year, that there'd

1021
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Speaker 11: be some Catharsists there.

1022
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Speaker 1: Without question, you have a great call on Sunday. We

1023
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Speaker 1: always love having you man.

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Speaker 9: Thanks so much, Thanks mo anytime.

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Speaker 1: Great to chat lead MLS season pass play by play

1026
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Speaker 1: man Jake zivin Apple TV Game two Sunday six thirty

1027
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Speaker 1: FC Cincinnati at Columbus, of course, radio cover John Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports thirteen sixty, What's Up? Thirteen after four, ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 1: I think the show has been on for an hour

1030
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Speaker 1: and ten minutes. We've had five guests. That's you know. Look,

1031
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Speaker 1: you could say whatever you want about my limitations as

1032
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Speaker 1: an on air performer, and there are many, but I

1033
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Speaker 1: defy anybody to cram as much as we just did there.

1034
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Speaker 1: And you know what the beauty of it is, all

1035
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Speaker 1: of it was free. Nobody paid a dime for that.

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Speaker 1: That was a free hour and ten minutes of just

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Speaker 1: solid sports talk, radio, entertainment and information. What do we have?

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Speaker 1: Joe Flacco was throwing before. I've not seen an official

1039
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: injury report, but today was a look. Man, none of

1040
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: us want to watch Jake Browning. I'd rather watch Joe

1041
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,919
Speaker 1: Flacco throw with his left arm than Jake Browning throw

1042
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: with his right. The injury is to Joe Flacco's right,

1043
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 1: but he was at least warming up before practice today,

1044
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: and he did not practice at all yesterday. There you go,

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Speaker 1: Show's down early to UK basketball. The Wildcats taking on Georgetown.

1046
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: I do it. Richard Patino today, Wes Miller yesterday, Darren

1047
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: Horne yesterday as well, and if you missed yesterday, listen

1048
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: to those on the iHeartRadio app. There seems to be

1049
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: this movement for like four preseason games in college basketball, Like,

1050
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: I don't disagree. I don't disagree with that at all,

1051
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: because college basketball early in the season, especially when there's

1052
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: newcomers from all over the place, the product is at

1053
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: times not awesome. The fact that we keep more players

1054
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: in college longer because they can get paid maybe offsets

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00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: that a little bit. I will say though, like it's

1056
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Speaker 1: been a long time since Georgetown has been really good.

1057
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Speaker 1: But Kentucky playing Georgetown again, that should be a regular

1058
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Speaker 1: season like Kentucky perdue Man on Friday night, Wildcats. I

1059
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Speaker 1: watched that played great. I just every time I see

1060
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Speaker 1: one of these, like, that's cool. But I don't know,

1061
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: can figure out a way to have that take place

1062
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Speaker 1: during the regular season. I'm torn. I'm torn. Robert Wintrob

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Speaker 1: writes a weekly Bengals column for Cincinnati Magazine. He joins us.

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Speaker 1: Robert Windrob joins us every Thursday. He writes a weekly

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Speaker 1: Bengals column for Cincinnati Magazine. You can read this week's

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Speaker 1: right now at Cincinnati Magazine dot com. Robert was in

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Speaker 1: town last week and he was at the Bengals game.

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Speaker 1: He was also at the Bearcats game and they won

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Speaker 1: and the Bengals lost, and so you know we could

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Speaker 1: talk about the Bearcats.

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Speaker 13: Well, you know, it's funny.

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Speaker 10: I feel like when I'm watching the Bengals, I'm watching

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Speaker 10: Big twelve football defense, easy scoring drive and a ton

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Speaker 10: of points. So between the Bengals and the Bearcats, there

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Speaker 10: was no shortage of fireworks. Unfortunately, we came up just

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Speaker 10: a little bit short in the pro aspect of that

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Speaker 10: particular combo.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, we did. You wrote about Al Golden, so

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Speaker 1: I you know, amid all the different discussions about the

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Speaker 1: Bengals defense and how it might be fixed and what

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Speaker 1: they should do moving forward and who to blame, I

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Speaker 1: think the general consensus is, Look, they asked Al to

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Speaker 1: do a lot, but they didn't give him much to

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Speaker 1: work with, and so we'll sort of absolve him. In

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Speaker 1: writing about the game last week, which you were at,

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Speaker 1: you kind of point the finger at him a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And I want folks to read it, but walk me

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Speaker 1: through is specifically as it relates to Sunday, how Al

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Speaker 1: kind of got worked over by his counterpart on the

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Speaker 1: other team.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and I don't think Al Golden would absolve himself.

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Speaker 10: Let me just say that person foremost, I think he

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Speaker 10: pointed the finger right squarely in the mirror. But yeah,

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Speaker 10: I mean, he's never called plays in the NFL before

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Speaker 10: as much as we take as experience or granted, you know,

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Speaker 10: he obviously did it in college, but pro and college

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Speaker 10: ball are not the same thing. He doesn't have the

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Speaker 10: talent advantage obviously that he had a Notre Dame. And

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Speaker 10: I think you're seeing it a lot now, especially when

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Speaker 10: I was in the press box watching on Sunday, you

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Speaker 10: see things a little bit differently than you do on TV.

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Speaker 10: And you know, you could just see a lot of

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Speaker 10: times where the Jets were doing things that they had

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Speaker 10: done earlier in the game, and we're setting up sort

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Speaker 10: of zigging off of those zags. The Bengals stopped them early,

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Speaker 10: you know, help them to I think it was just

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Speaker 10: eight yards rushing in the first quarter. By the fourth

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Speaker 10: quarter it was over one hundred yards just in.

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Speaker 2: The fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 10: You know, if you could see it coming, they were

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Speaker 10: getting out flanked, or they were throwing passes that we're

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Speaker 10: going to have guys having to pick their way through,

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Speaker 10: you know, through a mess of receivers. And then you know,

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Speaker 10: bunch formations and things like that. And you know, so

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Speaker 10: much of the chess game, if you will, between coordinators

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Speaker 10: is you know, kind of punch counter punch, zigging when

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Speaker 10: you are expecting a zag and you know, being non

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Speaker 10: rhythmic in a certain way. And you know, al Going's

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Speaker 10: a rookie at that too, unless we talk about the

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Speaker 10: rookies who are playing for the Bengals. On the field,

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Speaker 10: he's kind of learning on the job as he goes

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Speaker 10: to and he's gonna make mistakes, and then you know,

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Speaker 10: there's certain times where you know it's sort of almost

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Speaker 10: too late. He probably sees it coming too, if I

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Speaker 10: can see it coming and I'm not. You know, Amos

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Speaker 10: Alonso's stag up in the booth there and I can

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Speaker 10: see certain things happening, but I'm sure he does too,

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Speaker 10: And it's just a little lady. You know, he has

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Speaker 10: to go with what he's called already. But you know,

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Speaker 10: the Jets have a first year play caller two and

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Speaker 10: I just thought that their guy, Tanner Engstrand is his name,

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Speaker 10: Not that anybody would know who he is necessarily, but

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Speaker 10: he's a rookie offensive coordinator and he just seemed like

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Speaker 10: he was getting a step ahead, especially in the second

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Speaker 10: half of Golden And you know, it's it's just the

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Speaker 10: kind of thing he's gonna have to work through and

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Speaker 10: get more comfortable with this sort of cut and thrust

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Speaker 10: of the way players are called and what teams want

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Speaker 10: to do and want to make you think they're doing,

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Speaker 10: you know, And I just think he's a step behind

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Speaker 10: right now. And you know, like the rookies who are

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Speaker 10: playing on the field, that can only get better with

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Speaker 10: the reps. And I'm sure he will too.

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Speaker 1: Robert appeal appeal, appealing to the younger generation. With the

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Speaker 1: Amos Alonso Stag reference. There you go.

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Speaker 10: Robert is either him or Walter Camp. I wasn't sure

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Speaker 10: which one to go.

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Speaker 1: It very good. They draft players on defense and the

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Speaker 1: idea is they make it a immediate impact that is

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Speaker 1: not happening with Shamar Stewart or Dimitrius Knight or Barrett Carter.

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Speaker 1: Should I start to lose hope when it comes to

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Speaker 1: these rookies or should should I give them time? Should

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Speaker 1: I give them time to make an impact?

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Speaker 10: Well, I mean, if you're going to take the rookie

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Speaker 10: class as a hole, the guards or the guys we

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Speaker 10: thought would be the problem, right, and they've actually both

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Speaker 10: played fairly well. Certainly on Sunday they played really well.

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Speaker 10: And they're getting thrown into the fire. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 10: you look around the league, and there's plenty of rookies

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Speaker 10: who are making more instant impacts than the guys we have.

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Speaker 10: Over in Baltimore, Teddy Buchanan, a fourth round the rookie

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Speaker 10: linebacker named Rookie of the Month for October. So he's

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Speaker 10: doing something right. I mean, you certainly don't give up hope.

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Speaker 10: Al Golden himself made the point, like, you know, if

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Speaker 10: you looked at the guys he worked with back in

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Speaker 10: the early twenties when they were on their Super Bowl

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Speaker 10: runs and Logan Wilson and Jermaine Pratt when they were youngsters,

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Speaker 10: young pups, they made plenty of mistakes too, and they

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Speaker 10: turned into key elements of these so you know, you

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Speaker 10: certainly don't write them off. And you know, for better

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Speaker 10: or worse. I mean, think about how many rookie classes

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Speaker 10: the Bengals have had where the guys never even saw

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Speaker 10: the field, you know, and whether that was because of

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Speaker 10: injury or because they were you know, behind veterans, or

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Speaker 10: just weren't any good. And then you get the year

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Speaker 10: three and you're like, well, now it's time to see

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Speaker 10: what we have in ex player.

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Speaker 2: But then it's almost too late.

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Speaker 10: Nobody's could be saying that about Barrett Cutter or Demetrius

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Speaker 10: Knight or even Jalen Rivers. You know, it's like, by

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Speaker 10: year three, we'll know one way or the other what

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Speaker 10: we have in them and whether it's you know, time

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Speaker 10: to move on or whether they're players you can build around.

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Speaker 10: So you know, in that sense, it's good that they're

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Speaker 10: getting a lot of rests, but not so good that

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Speaker 10: they haven't performed anywhere close to their capabilities as yet.

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Speaker 10: And you know it's not just because they can't play.

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Speaker 10: It's a variety of factors and it's almost compounding on

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Speaker 10: itself every week. They have to just pull out of

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Speaker 10: this kind of nose that that they're in and get

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Speaker 10: things stable up off before they can really start to

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Speaker 10: play well.

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Speaker 1: Robert Wantrob with a Cincinnatimagazine dot Com Reada's weekly Bengals calum.

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Speaker 1: In your opinion, since that Super Bowl year, which is

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Speaker 1: feeling like it was decades ago, what is the single

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Speaker 1: biggest front office missteps since?

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Speaker 10: Well, let me say this first. I mean, listen, I

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Speaker 10: know Duke Tobin is begetting a lot of bullets this week,

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Speaker 10: and I fired a few too, And you know, he's

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Speaker 10: the face, he's there to take that to take the heat.

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Speaker 10: So you know, no, I'm not making any.

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Speaker 2: Excuses or anything for him.

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Speaker 10: I don't have any sympathy, but you know, I think

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Speaker 10: we've also memory hold the idea that it was only

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Speaker 10: three weeks ago where he sort of saved the season

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Speaker 10: by getting Joe Fleckow. I mean, the team would be

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Speaker 10: completely off a cliff if if we didn't have the

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Speaker 10: offense going. I mean, you know, think about not just

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Speaker 10: how they were losing games, but we're totally unwatchable from

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Speaker 10: the quarterback position, and that's where all the money is

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Speaker 10: on the offensive side of the paul. So at least

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Speaker 10: they're on track thanks to Joe in that sense, And

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Speaker 10: give Toven credit for bringing them in here and getting

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Speaker 10: him for basically nothing. But to get back to your point,

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Speaker 10: I mean, there's been a lot of obviously issues over

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Speaker 10: the last several draft classes, super Bowl, but to me,

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Speaker 10: the biggest thing it's not just one misstep, it's the

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Speaker 10: failure as a whole to get another pass rusher in

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Speaker 10: here to go along with Trey Hendrickson. You know, I

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Speaker 10: think Sam Hubbard at six six and a half sacks

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Speaker 10: back in twenty two, that's still the most sacks any

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Speaker 10: player not wearing number ninety one his hat in the

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Speaker 10: last years, three years since the Super Bowl, and it's

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Speaker 10: not going to get any better this year either. So

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Speaker 10: you know, you can't as much as we just talked

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Speaker 10: about Al Golden and the rookies and everything else, you're

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Speaker 10: playing defense with one hand tied behind your back if

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Speaker 10: you can't get any pass rush at all, and they

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Speaker 10: just can't do it when Hendrickson's not the guy making

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Speaker 10: it happen single handedly and he just can't go forward,

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Speaker 10: it's just hard, almost impossible to sustain any kind of

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Speaker 10: you know, defensive momentum or win, you know, consistently in

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Speaker 10: this league without any kind of regular pass rush for

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Speaker 10: multiple angles. So it's been that you know, they've tried obviously,

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Speaker 10: they drafted Miles Murphy, they drafted Stewart, but they haven't

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Speaker 10: tried hard enough.

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Speaker 14: And you know, it's.

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Speaker 10: Almost like you got to go all out at this

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Speaker 10: point to get somebody in with Hendrickson's and penn departure

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Speaker 10: at some point, whether it's in a couple of weeks

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Speaker 10: I don't think so, but possible, or you know, next

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Speaker 10: year or even the year after. You got to get

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Speaker 10: somebody else in here to rush the pastor it's just

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Speaker 10: it's beyond a joke at this point.

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Speaker 1: No question about it. Thank you as always. Well, we'll

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Speaker 1: talk next week, thanks so much.

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Speaker 10: Okay, hopefully off a win this time.

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Speaker 2: We'll do it.

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Speaker 1: Give me like a what next week? Give me like

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Speaker 1: a like a like a sid Gilman or a weave

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Speaker 1: U Bank like g I mean, I just I cannot.

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Speaker 1: You got to drop on one of those in once

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Speaker 1: per week.

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Speaker 12: Now.

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Speaker 10: Okay, it's Bears week, so it'll be George House.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Yes, that's right. There you go. Robert win Troub,

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Speaker 1: Cup Classic, and so I wanted to bring in our guy,

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Speaker 1: Dubbs Anderson, who joined us right before the Kentucky Derby

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Speaker 1: back in early May. He is with us from a

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Speaker 1: FanDuel TV horse racing analyst sports betting analyst, to talk

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Speaker 1: about the Breeders Cup. Dubs. It's awesome to have you

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Speaker 1: get afternoon. How are you?

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Speaker 15: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 9: Great to be on as you're highlighted.

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Speaker 16: You know, we've already seen the sports equinox a little

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Speaker 16: earlier this week with the Big four major four sports,

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Speaker 16: and now I've got the Breeders Cup World Championships getting

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Speaker 16: under white tomorrow It's two days of world class raced

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Speaker 16: in we called the you know, the unofficial World Championships

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Speaker 16: because everyone from all around the world and making their

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Speaker 16: way down to the del mar Stybred Club and it's

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Speaker 16: gonna be fantastic. Great to watch as a sports fan.

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Speaker 16: On the betting side of things, second to none.

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Speaker 1: To talk about the Breeders Cup Classic. This field is loaded.

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Speaker 1: Steer me in a specific direction.

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Speaker 16: The big storyline coming into this week was Sovereignty to

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Speaker 16: start three y roll going against some of the older horses,

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Speaker 16: but unfortunately this year is Kentucky Derby Champ was a

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Speaker 16: scratch on Wednesday, so Sovereignty will not go. And suddenly

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Speaker 16: it looks to be even tougher in trying to decipher

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Speaker 16: who's going to finish up. On top of this year's

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01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 16: running of the Breeders' Cup Classic, it's a rematch of

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Speaker 16: the top three. Last year's year of the Own Got

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Speaker 16: the Biscuits was your classic champ That the runners that

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Speaker 16: I've got my eyes pointed towards is the International Raidar

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Speaker 16: representing Japan and Forever Young, a winner of the Saudi

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Speaker 16: Cup comes in for yrsheto your harkey. One of the

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Speaker 16: more colorful trainers in the game, and Forever Young just

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Speaker 16: has that ability to go on the road.

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Speaker 1: You know it can take it.

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Speaker 16: Internationally, was very close in this one last year. Has

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Speaker 16: had a couple of big tribes trying to best out

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Speaker 16: the North American runners. But I think this shakes up

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01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 16: to be a very good spot for Forever Young. We

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Speaker 16: know the classes there in bunches, and I think the

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Speaker 16: pace set up could be there as well. Likely we'll

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01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 16: go off as the favorite, as the second choice to

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Speaker 16: fierceness two.

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Speaker 2: To one, three to one.

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Speaker 16: But that's where I'm going the international spoiler and you

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Speaker 16: can hear with my accent, wouldn't be bad to find

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Speaker 16: the flag?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes sense, Dubbs Anderson FanDuel TV. So give

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Speaker 1: me now. That sounds great. But if I want some value,

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Speaker 1: if I want a long shot in the classics, specifically

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Speaker 1: point me in the right direction.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 16: So, look, Sierra Leone, who won this race last year,

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01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 16: is a very pace dependent horse. And when we say

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Speaker 16: pacete dependent, we need a hot tempo up on front

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01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 16: to really give Sierra Leone a chance. So the connections

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Speaker 16: have seen fit to put a rabbit into this race.

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01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 16: And the rabbit is contrary thinking, So the game plan

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01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 16: for the same bard of Chad Brown will be to

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01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:40,679
Speaker 16: have this horse go full sem contrary thinking at fifty

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Speaker 16: to one as a long shot, to try and get

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01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:45,839
Speaker 16: that pastecalon to really set it up for Sierra Leone

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01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 16: to come with one big final chance towards the finish line.

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01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 16: But sometimes if there's no pressure going towards that front

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01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:55,680
Speaker 16: front runner the rabbit, if you will, they could go

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01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 16: on with this thing at a very big price. So

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01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 16: contrary thinking at fifty to one could be that price

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01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 16: play for Chad Brown. Now Seria Leon's going to be

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01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:04,600
Speaker 16: right there in the thick of it comes with the

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01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 16: big almighty finish towards the line. I'll throw one more

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01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 16: running here for Todd Pletcher. A lot of people will

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Speaker 16: be talking about fierceness expected to be one of the

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Speaker 16: front runners from the inside, But mind frame, the barn

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01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:19,760
Speaker 16: mate has the credentials in bunches, has that finish could

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01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 16: be quite versatile. Sitting at ten to one on the

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01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:25,719
Speaker 16: morning line as the second choice for trainer Pledcher could

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01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 16: be sneaking under the radar. So contrary thinking massive long

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01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 16: shot could be a little loose up on that front end.

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01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 16: Mind frame at ten to one will be the number

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Speaker 16: eight for Todd Pletcher. That's the value play if you're

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Speaker 16: looking to go outside of that top selection in Forever Young.

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Speaker 1: All right, see you are? You are hitting my sweet spot.

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Speaker 1: There's fourteen races between tomorrow and Saturday beyond the Classic.

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Speaker 1: Give me one that you're paying especially close attention to.

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Speaker 16: Yes, I've been talking about a lot of the big connections,

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01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:57,640
Speaker 16: the big trainers, and there's a couple coming across the

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01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,040
Speaker 16: pond who are looking to do some pretty special The

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Speaker 16: Rebels Romance to the Godolphin team trained by Charlie Appleby,

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01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 16: gets William Buick as your jockey, and there you might

1379
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 16: be thinking, oh, I've never heard of these guys. There're

1380
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 16: two of the best in the UK. They've had a

1381
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 16: lot of success coming across to the States prior. This

1382
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 16: seven year old is looking for a third when at

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01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,839
Speaker 16: the Breeders' Cup and we'll be running in the Breeders'

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Speaker 16: Cup Turf. So the Classic goes is race number nine

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01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 16: the Breeders' Cup Turf, the one before it. That's where

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Speaker 16: I'm looking at. Rebel's Romance will be the one horse

1387
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 16: from the inside sitting at five to two A classy

1388
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 16: look in time. Has had seven starts for this year

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01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 16: with five wins. Comes back out to the States where

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Speaker 16: we've had has prior a really good chance of becoming

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01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 16: a three time victor down there at the Seaside Oval

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Speaker 16: in the Breeders Cup.

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Speaker 1: Perfect Dubs Anderson Fandel TV Complete coverage of the Breeders

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Speaker 1: Cup tomorrow and Saturday, wall to wall from del Mar Dubs.

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01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 1: Awesome to have you as always, man, Thanks so much,

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01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 1: Thank you.

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01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 2: Mate.

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01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 1: Let's cash, Let's do it. Let's cash. I like it.

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01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 1: That's my guy. Doubs Anderson Dual TV Breeders' Cup fourteen

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Speaker 1: races between tomorrow from five tomorrow nine on Saturday, Sports

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Speaker 1: is out. Joe Flacco limited today, step in the right direction,

1405
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Speaker 1: did not practice yesterday, was limited today. No Trey Hendrickson

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Speaker 1: for a second consecutive day. No Dalton Reisner for a

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Speaker 1: second consecutive day. No Logan Wilson for a second consecutive day.

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Speaker 1: Bengals and Bears Sunday. Pregame coverage on ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 1: from The Holy Grail begins at nine o'clock Sunday Morning

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Speaker 1: Football Tonight Thursday night er Ravens Dolphins, Fox Sports thirteen sixty.

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Speaker 1: College Hoops Kentucky plays its second and last exhibition game

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Speaker 1: of the season, the Wildcats battling Georgetown. Pregame coverage on

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Speaker 1: ESPN fifteen thirty at five point thirty. The West Miller

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Speaker 1: Radio Show is tonight at eight o'clock from the original

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Speaker 1: Montgomery In and the Cincinnati. The Cincinnati Cyclhones played tonight

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Speaker 1: against Indy. I believe you can bring your dog to

1417
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Speaker 1: the game this evening. I think it's like Pups and

1418
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:10,600
Speaker 1: Pucks night at the Clones game. So there you go,

1419
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Speaker 1: bring your dog, watch some hockey, see the Clones take

1420
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Speaker 1: on Indy.

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Speaker 13: There you go.

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Speaker 1: Oh, and I am a disorganized, messed. Xavier University announced

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Speaker 1: that Drew Lavender is going to be inducted into the

1424
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Speaker 1: school's athletics Hall of Fame, along with Melanie Balcolm, who

1425
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Speaker 1: had a terrific run as the women's basketball coach at Xavier.

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Speaker 1: And if I was not such a I've got it here.

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Speaker 2: I think I can hear.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, any pope played golf at Xavier class of two

1429
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Speaker 1: thousand and six.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

1431
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:44,560
Speaker 1: You could hear. You could hear the stack of papers

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Speaker 1: twenty minutes away from four o'clock at Moeggar on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: Week nine Fantasy Football owners next on ESPN fifteen.

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Speaker 1: This reporter is sponsored by First Day to Talk Fantasy Football,

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1449
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Speaker 1: how are we doing?

1450
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Speaker 12: Brother?

1451
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 14: I can't believe it's week nine. How do we get

1452
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 14: here so quick?

1453
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 1: I have one win through eight weeks. I'm in a

1454
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 1: really salty mood. I'm starting. I'm glad I'm not at

1455
01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 1: one of those leagues where like you have to out

1456
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 1: of a cat's litter box or something if you finish

1457
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:04,719
Speaker 1: in the last place, because I would be really stressed

1458
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 1: out right now.

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01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 14: Yeah, I wouldn't want to do that either. But you

1460
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:11,680
Speaker 14: know what, no, only one win, you still got a

1461
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:14,679
Speaker 14: shot because in most leagues seven and seven still get

1462
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 14: you there. Though with one win you could technically still

1463
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 14: win out and get there. But if you're a winless

1464
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:22,559
Speaker 14: you'd probably be hopeless.

1465
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 1: I could, I could.

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01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 2: I got a chance.

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01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 10: I do.

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01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 1: I'm three and five in the other league, so I'm

1469
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 1: clinging to hope there. It's Halloween season, so give me

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01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 1: some fantasy tricks and treats.

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01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 14: Yeah, in the spirit of Halloween, let's look at some

1472
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:37,560
Speaker 14: players and some trends. Let's start with the tricks. Caleb Williams,

1473
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 14: that's been a little tricky. Weeks one through three twenty

1474
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,839
Speaker 14: three point four Fantasy points. Weeks four to eight, twelve

1475
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 14: point one, like halfs the production dead last and completion

1476
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:50,640
Speaker 14: percentage over expected per next Gen Stat's good news is

1477
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 14: he plays the Bengals this week and that defense could

1478
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 14: help them. But it's been tough getting him in your lineup.

1479
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:57,600
Speaker 14: It's been tough getting Tuber Hubbard in your lineup. And

1480
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 14: since coming back from that calf injury, another one of

1481
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 14: our tricks he just had given him the opportunity. He

1482
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:05,640
Speaker 14: has done a lot with them, oh eighty nine yards

1483
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 14: seventy three snaps. Meanwhile, Rico Daddle, the guy who's been

1484
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 14: tearing up to I got one hundred and fifty yards

1485
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 14: on just fifty four snaps. They both have about the

1486
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 14: same carries. I expect Daddle to get the bulk in

1487
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 14: the workload.

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01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 2: Moving forward, let's come to some.

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01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 14: Good news some trees Stefan Jags. He's Everson twenty nine

1490
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 14: point five percent target share game rate over his last

1491
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 14: five contests. He's put up fourteen point two PPR points

1492
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 14: in that span.

1493
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 2: I really like him.

1494
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 14: I really like Drake Matt really liked this Patriots offense

1495
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,679
Speaker 14: and Aronde Gats in the second perhaps the waiver wire

1496
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 14: pickup of the year, at least to the first half.

1497
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 14: He continued to see his rope participation rates go over

1498
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:37,759
Speaker 14: the last three games, and that's resolved in target shares

1499
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 14: also increasing. He's got twelve twenty nine to nineteen PPR

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01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 14: points during that time, Brame.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a look at this week's key injuries, beginning

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01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 1: in New York.

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01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 14: Yeah, well, actually I'm sifting this up and I wanted

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Speaker 14: to start with the news tonight and maybe that great

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01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,879
Speaker 14: news for Bengal fans, but fantasy manag who's sure excited

1506
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 14: to see Lamar Jackson return under center from missing his

1507
01:15:58,960 --> 01:15:59,719
Speaker 14: multiple weeks.

1508
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 2: With the hams issue.

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01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 14: He's a fool go tonight, absolutely getting inserted in the lineup.

1510
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:05,719
Speaker 14: This should also mean good things for the Ravens offense,

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01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 14: so I do like the yunder a little bit tonight

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01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 14: on the shore weak and trail one. Lamar is a

1513
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 14: must start obviously for any fantasy team. Jade and Daniels

1514
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:15,839
Speaker 14: looking good for him to return Sunday night versus Seattle

1515
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 14: as well with his own hamstring issue, so no reservations there.

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01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 14: And Kyler Murray also trending in a positive direction. He's

1517
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 14: had a foot injury. He plays on Monday Night Football though,

1518
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:26,599
Speaker 14: so you might want to had Jacobi that was set

1519
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 14: there just as a backup plan. Both would be good

1520
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 14: plays against that struggling Cowboys defense. And I'm sure as

1521
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 14: you talked about Joe Placo all day with his shoulder

1522
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 14: issue a limited participant today, clearly Chase Higgins brown they're

1523
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:41,639
Speaker 14: all better fantasy sads when Joe under center than Jake

1524
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 14: Browning on the flip side of it at running back.

1525
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 14: That's where you were talking about the buzzkill the week.

1526
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 14: Last week one of my favorite rookies, Camp Scatam, who

1527
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 14: out for the season with that gruesome ankle injury. Tyrone

1528
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 14: Tracy and Devin Singletary to Shorey. Although Tracy was dropping

1529
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 14: a lot of leagues, could be a nice little waiver.

1530
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 14: Wire Scoop would be still available when yours squinch on

1531
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 14: Junkers another rookie shop for a shoulder ac joint injury.

1532
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 14: They're on a buy this week. Not sure what it's

1533
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 14: gonna look like in week ten. Dylan Sampson could be

1534
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 14: worth picking up there. Isaiah Piceco unlikely to play for

1535
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 14: the Chiefs in their big game versus Buffalo, so Kareem

1536
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 14: Hunt and rookie Brishard Smith. I do like Hunt, especially

1537
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 14: as a back end RB two there. Some receiver issues

1538
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 14: include Drake London with the hit poop and Akoul with

1539
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 14: an ankled Nico Collins with concussion. All three players trending

1540
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 14: in the right direction, including Collins who did clear concussion

1541
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 14: protocol today from the Texans. And what I'm most excited

1542
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 14: about just because I like watching the guy played football,

1543
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 14: but also get back in the free Fantasylantis bruck Power

1544
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:36,720
Speaker 14: said to return for the Raiders in that airlineup with

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01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 14: that knee issue coming out of.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, Justin Herbert is my stud. Loved the match up

1549
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 14: there versus Tennessee. I got a miss qupree for this week.

1550
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 14: Love the fact that's even running for the ball here.

1551
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:54,680
Speaker 14: Tennessee's offense is looked a little better of late too,

1552
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 14: so I think to put a few points on the

1553
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 14: board to keep him involved. Michael Pitman Jr. The Coles

1554
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 14: have been a big surprise. John Taylor getting some talk

1555
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Speaker 14: as MVP, Daniel Jones a comeback player, whatever, but Michael

1556
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 14: Pittman Junr. Has been a fantasy dream he's right now

1557
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 14: wide receiver, too high end guy, but I like him

1558
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 14: more the backend wide receiver one. I expected to be

1559
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 14: a shootout there at Pittsburgh on the dud side bow Nicks.

1560
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 14: It's been great, but probably sitting him at Houston. They've

1561
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 14: proven to be one of the better defenses in Jordan Mason,

1562
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 14: but Aaron Jones back for the Vikings in week eight

1563
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 14: we saw him take over a large percentage of the

1564
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 14: snap share, which led Mason having a slow lowest route

1565
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 14: share and snaps in general since week one. So he's

1566
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 14: a risky play and a tough match up there versus

1567
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 14: Detroit and some sleepers. I love me Van Knight at

1568
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 14: least probably one more week there of him getting the

1569
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:42,600
Speaker 14: primary action for the Cardinals. I actually scooped him up

1570
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:44,640
Speaker 14: in the league off my waiver wires on Tuesdays. There

1571
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:46,639
Speaker 14: might be out there in yours. He's RB twenty three

1572
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 14: at Dallas and Colston Lovelin, Hey, no, you don't need

1573
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Speaker 14: to be a fantasy gunius to figure out playing tight

1574
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 14: ends against the Bengals is a good thing. Colston Lovelan

1575
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Speaker 14: put me on the record right now. First career touchdown

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Speaker 14: come Sunday, here at play A Course Stadium.

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Speaker 1: Dan, you're the best. We'll talk next week.

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Speaker 14: All right, enjoy their games, good luck.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff today eight away from five o'clock. If you

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Speaker 1: don't know we're done early today, Kentucky Basketball takes over

1598
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:02,640
Speaker 1: at a five point thirty pregame show and then a

1599
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 1: tip off at seven pm as the Wildcats battle Georgetown.

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Speaker 1: Jay Morrison will be on the show at five twenty

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01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,640
Speaker 1: and we'll learn about ac joints and maybe try to

1602
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 1: find out what's up with Trey Hendrickson's hip. He did

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Speaker 1: not go today for a second consecutive day, with one

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Speaker 1: coming up at five to ten this afternoon. As talking

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Speaker 1: with Brenda last hour about the the UC, you know,

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01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 1: he did an interview in Salt Lake City. I guess

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01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:37,559
Speaker 1: where the Bearcats were positioned as a team that really

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01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 1: hasn't played anybody, and like, I think there's a degree

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01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 1: of intrigue about this team because it's a better team

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01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 1: than last season. It is a team that certainly looks

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01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 1: better coached than last season. They've gotten this deep into

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01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve schedule without losing a football game. There's

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01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 1: a lot you can have your hat on with this team.

1615
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 1: The special teams is a weapon. They don't turn it over.

1616
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:08,879
Speaker 1: The offensive line has been fantastic. They've given up two sacks.

1617
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 1: They have a balanced offense. But you know, it's not

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01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 1: like they've run through this just gauntlet of ranked teams,

1619
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 1: really good teams. They've beaten Iowa State, team that has

1620
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 1: spent some time in the top fifteen this year. Winning

1621
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:28,480
Speaker 1: at Kansas was not easy. I don't think the Jayhawks

1622
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 1: are great, though. They've taken care of business against Oklahoma

1623
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 1: State and Baylor, and those are teams, especially Baylor at home,

1624
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 1: that you should beat decisively. This is can they go

1625
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 1: on the road as a big underdog and beat a

1626
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:46,599
Speaker 1: pretty good Utah team, Utah team that's lost to its

1627
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 1: best two opponents. I understand that, like all right, they've

1628
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 1: gotten to this point of the season. Over the course

1629
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:56,719
Speaker 1: of the next month, they're gonna play games against Utah

1630
01:21:56,840 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 1: and BYU here and TCU on the road. For what

1631
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 1: that's worth, I get it. I get the skepticism or uncertainty,

1632
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 1: if you want to put it that way. But this

1633
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 1: is a massive opportunity. If you win this game on Saturday,

1634
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 1: it kicks in a hyper drive discussions about playing in

1635
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve Championship game, winning a Big Twelve championship

1636
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 1: and playing in the College Football Playoff and while making

1637
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 1: the playoff has never been easier, can you imagine think

1638
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 1: about that for a second. Can you imagine you see

1639
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 1: playing in the college football playoff and it might not

1640
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 1: seem likely right now? And I get it, man, this

1641
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 1: this game on Saturday is really hard. They're underdogs for

1642
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 1: a reason. I think the line's a little inflated. But

1643
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 1: can you just imagine if they win this game and

1644
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:46,679
Speaker 1: we spend the month of November sizing up their college

1645
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 1: football playoff chances like that that's not something that was

1646
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 1: as the kids say on Anybody's Bingo card back before

1647
01:22:55,920 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 1: the season started, and yet possible and that's you know

1648
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 1: for it. I think there are a lot of folks

1649
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 1: who came into the season almost assuming that we would

1650
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 1: spend the year talking about Scott's Sadderfield being bought out,

1651
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 1: And now you know, the conversation is going to become

1652
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:23,440
Speaker 1: about an extension and maybe them making the playoff possible,

1653
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 1: maybe not likely again, man, Like, I'm really worried about

1654
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 1: Utah running the football, and I'm really worried about Utah

1655
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 1: running the football if the Bearcats, for the first time

1656
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 1: since Nebraska, end up playing from behind. But we'll see,

1657
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 1: they've at least put themselves in a position to go

1658
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 1: into the first day of November playing in a big game.

1659
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 1: I would say, the biggest game of Scott Sadderfield's regime.

1660
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see a couple of the way from

1661
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:53,559
Speaker 1: five o'clock. We'll get to the Bengals after the top

1662
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:57,760
Speaker 1: of the hour. On ESPN fifteen thirty. Whake keyword on

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Speaker 1: Do that so you can deposit the money. No one

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01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:08,759
Speaker 1: covers the Bengals that turnk Cincinnati. All right, late start

1666
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Speaker 1: to the hour, because we have been loaded today loaded.

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Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty. Thank you for listening on

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Speaker 1: mo Lagger. It is the bud Light five o'clock Happy Hour,

1669
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Speaker 1: or for our purposes, the bud Light five o'clock Half Hour,

1670
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 1: because we're done. We're done in twenty three minutes. Our

1671
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:32,600
Speaker 1: weekend starts at five thirty. Cincinnati, not Cincinnati, Kentucky is

1672
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 1: hosting Georgetown preseason exhibition college basketball at Rupp Arena live

1673
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 1: on ESPN fifteen thirty. Tip Off tonight is going to

1674
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 1: be at seven pm. Jane Morrison is going to join

1675
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 1: us in just about ten twelve minutes or so from

1676
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 1: Bengals Talk dot com, and we'll talk about Joe Flacco.

1677
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:54,759
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco gave it a go today. He was limited

1678
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:58,599
Speaker 1: in his participation at Bengals practice, which is a step

1679
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 1: in the right direction after being being held out of

1680
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:05,519
Speaker 1: practice entirely yesterday. And so we'll see what his status

1681
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:07,680
Speaker 1: is as the week unfolds. Maybe Jay can shed some

1682
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:10,680
Speaker 1: light on that note. Trey Hendrickson again today Bengals and

1683
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:13,880
Speaker 1: Bears Sunday at one o'clock live on ESPN fifteen thirty.

1684
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 1: Our pregame coverage from the Holy Grail starts at nine am.

1685
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 1: I'm we want the Bengals to win the game, obviously,

1686
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 1: and I'll I know what we're going to do if

1687
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 1: they win this football game. Hey back to four and five,

1688
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 1: you know, kind of where they were after the Pittsburgh game.

1689
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 1: But now they gotta buy and they play the Steelers,

1690
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 1: who don't look like world beaters right now, and they

1691
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 1: beat them once and you know, getting closer to I

1692
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:43,559
Speaker 1: know what we're going to talk ourselves into it. I

1693
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 1: cannot do it until the defense shows something like It's

1694
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:55,439
Speaker 1: one thing if you get worked by the Detroit Lions,

1695
01:25:56,200 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 1: great offensive football team, very good quarterback. It's a different

1696
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 1: thing entirely if you get worked by the Green Bay

1697
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 1: Packers and then there's getting worked by Aaron Rodgers and

1698
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 1: the Steelers, and then there's getting worked by Justin Fields

1699
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 1: and the Jets. So win this football game, But I'll

1700
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 1: be honest with you, man, if it's another Hey, they

1701
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:22,920
Speaker 1: hung on by the skin of their teeth and they

1702
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 1: win thirty eight thirty five, but they still couldn't stop anybody. Well,

1703
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 1: then I don't think any progress was made. Like, if

1704
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:34,840
Speaker 1: they're going to make the playoffs, regardless of when Burrow

1705
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:40,719
Speaker 1: comes back, it's it's gonna happen because the defense got better.

1706
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 1: And let's be honest, they're not a whole lot of

1707
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:47,719
Speaker 1: other things Al Golden can do. There are just players

1708
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 1: who have to perform at a higher level than they

1709
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 1: have and it looks like that might have to start

1710
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:56,800
Speaker 1: without Trey Hendrickson, who again didn't practice for a second

1711
01:26:56,840 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 1: consecutive day. It's not so much about the division math.

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Speaker 1: It's not so much about where they are in relation

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Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh or Baltimore or the seventh seed in the AFC,

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Speaker 1: or even when Burrow comes back. We are saying the

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Speaker 1: same things about this defense on the last second to

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01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 1: last day of October that we were saying back in June.

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01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 1: Can't stop anybody, can't stop anybody when it matters. That

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01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 1: has been a recurring theme since after week one. When

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01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:30,560
Speaker 1: it stops becoming one, then we'll talk about the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to be talking about them at all

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01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 1: if they lose, and chances are if they lose, it's

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01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 1: going to be because they get worked offensively by Caleb Williams,

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01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:42,760
Speaker 1: even though there's a ton of uncertainty as to who

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01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 1: he's going to be throwing the football to. Let's talk

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01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:49,799
Speaker 1: about Joe Flacco and Trey Hendrickson. We do this every

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01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 1: single week. We chat with one of the experts from

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Speaker 1: Orthos Sinsey Orthopedics and Sports Medicine. I say this every

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Speaker 1: week as well, that the great thing about Orthos sins

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Speaker 1: is they have specialist locations and services all over the

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Speaker 1: Tri State. This includes walk in orthopedic urgent care at

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Speaker 1: five locations, and this includes extended evening and weekend hours

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Speaker 1: in Edgewood and Anderson. You can learn more at Orthossinc

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Speaker 1: dot com. That's Ortho c I n C y dot com.

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Speaker 1: Dr Matthew Grunkeemeier from Orthosinc.

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Speaker 2: He is with us.

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01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 1: All right, So Joe Flacco is dealing with a sprained

1737
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:26,639
Speaker 1: ac joint. What is an ac joint?

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01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 13: Sure? The ac joint is that main knuckle that on

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01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 13: the front of your shoulder where the shoulder blade meets.

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Speaker 2: Up against the collar bone.

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Speaker 13: You can cot and feel it on most people when

1742
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 13: you land on your shoulder typically is when you sprain it.

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01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:44,759
Speaker 2: And yeah, it can be pretty painful.

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01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:48,559
Speaker 1: So what's done to determine the extent of the injury?

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01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 1: Are there different grades that sort of thing?

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01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,679
Speaker 13: Yeah, they sure are. Yeah, hopefully it's just a grade

1747
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 13: one sprain. That's where there's no separation between the two

1748
01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:01,080
Speaker 13: bone pieces on the knuckle. If the grades go higher,

1749
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Speaker 13: they go all the way up to six. That just

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01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 13: is an increasing amount of movement of the bones away

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01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 13: from each other, which obviously as the grades get higher,

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01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 13: the injuries get more severe and take longer to heal

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01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 13: and sometimes even necessitate surgical repair.

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Speaker 1: All right, So the recovery process, the timeline could be

1755
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 1: all over the place. What is the typical recovery timeline

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01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 1: if there is one for an injury like this?

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Speaker 13: You know, if it's you or I and we sprain

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01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:29,559
Speaker 13: it and we rest it for a couple of weeks,

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Speaker 13: and it's a low grade injury, we might recover in

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01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:35,799
Speaker 13: a week or two. But when you're talking an NFL

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01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 13: caliber athlete, the mount force that's going across that shoulder when,

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01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:43,160
Speaker 13: for example, they're tackled, it could be tremendous, So it

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01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 13: could take a little bit longer. But of course, these

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Speaker 13: guys are so tough they sometimes play through injuries like this,

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01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 13: not uncommonly, so we'll have to see.

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Speaker 1: And when you do that, you obviously run the risk

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Speaker 1: often of making the injury worse. How much of that

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Speaker 1: is in play here.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean that's a big concern. I think that's

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Speaker 13: why the trainers are gonna That's why they say it's

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01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:04,559
Speaker 13: kind of a touch and go situation.

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Speaker 2: It might be even up towards the game time.

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Speaker 13: They kind of see, after he's warmed up and he's

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Speaker 13: able to move around, how it feels and how stable

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01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 13: the shoulder is, and it feels like he can go,

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Speaker 13: he may go.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about Trey Hendrickson, who is being

1778
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 1: sidelined with a hip injury. Didn't practice. This was originally

1779
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:23,880
Speaker 1: reported as a back issue, now it's a hip problem.

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01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:27,600
Speaker 1: Didn't play against Pittsburgh, played against the Jets, reaggravated the

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Speaker 1: injury in the second quarter, then didn't come back and

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Speaker 1: play the rest of the game. He's also considered day

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Speaker 1: to day. Does the fact that he was able to

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Speaker 1: play through the pain for a while against New York

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Speaker 1: give us some idea of what the specific injury might be.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, it's probably more in the order of the sprain.

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Speaker 13: I would think, you know, if there was a tearing

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Speaker 13: or more significant injury, probably unlikely.

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Speaker 2: He'd be able to get back.

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Speaker 13: But nonetheless, just like with the shoulder situation, sprains can

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Speaker 13: vary in there of severity. So a more severe injury

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01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 13: obviously than wouldn't assess it a little more time off.

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Speaker 13: So hopefully he's going to be able to rehab this

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Speaker 13: and get back.

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Speaker 1: You hear all the time about like hipplex or strains

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Speaker 1: and hit pointers, and then there's you know, injuries that

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Speaker 1: are more severe. Walk me through the process of making

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Speaker 1: the distinction.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, more severe injury would cause them some mechanical symptoms,

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Speaker 13: maybe some more clicking or locking catching, and probably have

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Speaker 13: to get an MRI to diagnose that see such as

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Speaker 13: a label care or something more significant, even the stress structure.

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01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:40,760
Speaker 13: Hopefully it's more just you know, soft tissue injury that

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01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 13: you know, he took the joint too far through arrange

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Speaker 13: your motion and injured it.

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Speaker 2: But hopefully we'll come back sooner.

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Speaker 1: What do you do with somebody during the week between

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Speaker 1: games if they're trying to play through something like this.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, the trainers are going to be able

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Speaker 13: to assess their strengths, their balance, their ability to move

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Speaker 13: both you know in a sprint and lateral and c

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Speaker 13: if they're safe to get.

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Speaker 2: It back out there in the field.

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Speaker 13: You know, you obviously don't want to see him.

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Speaker 2: One thing you don't want to see.

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Speaker 13: Him, you know, guarding the joint because then something else

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Speaker 13: could get injured or they could injure that further.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes total sense. Doctor Matthew Grugermeier from Ortho Sincy.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the time and the insight. We say it

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Speaker 1: every week because I believe it, and if I believe it,

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Speaker 1: it's true. The great thing about Orthos, since he is

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Speaker 1: they have specialists of locations all over the Tri State.

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Speaker 1: This includes walk in orthopedic urgent care, weekdays from nine

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Speaker 1: a m. To nine pm and on Saturdays nine a m.

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Speaker 1: To one pm at both Edgewood and Anderson. It's easy

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 17: I was a word I was gonna be able to

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Speaker 17: get on with you. We just got out of a

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Speaker 17: writer's only meeting deciding how we can do.

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01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:10,040
Speaker 2: Our jobs better.

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01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:15,639
Speaker 1: And which leaders emerged from that meeting.

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Speaker 15: It was a bunch of people sitting around looking at

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01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:21,799
Speaker 15: each other. We did not come up with any answers.

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01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:23,360
Speaker 15: I think we're gonna keep doing what we're doing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Typically those meetings do yield positive results, so I'm

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Speaker 1: I am interested to see if some better work from

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Speaker 1: one of you emerges. I wouldn't count on it. That's

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01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:38,040
Speaker 1: a very fair assessment. Do we do we feel? Do

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Speaker 1: we feel like Joe flackom now may play on Sunday?

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01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:42,719
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 15: It sounds encouraging the fact that he was able to

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Speaker 15: throw today.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he was.

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Speaker 17: Limited the way they listed him, but that makes sense

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01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:53,360
Speaker 17: because the plan was going to be to have him

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01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:55,559
Speaker 17: and Jake Browning split reps. So if he doesn't take

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01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:57,960
Speaker 17: his cool amount of reps. Then he gets listed as limited.

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Speaker 17: But as long as there's not a set, it looks

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01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:03,200
Speaker 17: like the path is there for him to ramp up

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Speaker 17: and be the starter on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: So what's Al Gold supposed to do with this defense,

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01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 1: especially if Trey Hendrickson doesn't go.

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01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:15,040
Speaker 17: Yeah, it's a great question. I mean, it's it's almost

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01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:17,680
Speaker 17: to the point where they have to start blitzing more.

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Speaker 17: They're the only way they're going to get pressure. They

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01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:23,639
Speaker 17: they just keep waiting and expressing the hope and belief

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01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:26,360
Speaker 17: that it's going to turn on for Schamar and from

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Speaker 17: Miles Murphy and Joseph O'SAI, and it just hasn't been there.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I guess Schamar has a little bit.

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Speaker 17: More understanding there because he got started so late and

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01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:38,080
Speaker 17: then he just gets rolling and he has four weeks

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01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:41,080
Speaker 17: off and so he is really far behind on time

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01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:43,920
Speaker 17: on task. But they they've got to find some way

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01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:46,439
Speaker 17: to get pressure. And he just guys that aren't winning

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01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:48,439
Speaker 17: one on ones don't all of a sudden just start

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01:35:48,479 --> 01:35:51,240
Speaker 17: winning one on ones. And so I think he's going

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01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:53,559
Speaker 17: to have to get creative and start bringing some more blitzes.

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01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:55,840
Speaker 17: And we did see that a little bit last week.

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Speaker 17: You know, the only quarterback they hit was Cam Taylor

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Speaker 17: brig coming on a corner blitz.

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Speaker 2: And he he got to justin field.

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Speaker 15: So I could see them doing a little more of that,

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01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:04,200
Speaker 15: But then.

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Speaker 17: You also worry about doing that against a running quarterback

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Speaker 17: in Caleb Williams.

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01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:08,600
Speaker 2: He could really burn you.

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Speaker 1: Zach Taylor talked after the Jets game about the need

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Speaker 1: for defensive leaders to emerge. Who are those guys supposed

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Speaker 1: to be?

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Speaker 17: Well, I mean your captains obviously, but it's they're just

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01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:24,680
Speaker 17: such a weird spot. You know, you benched one in

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01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:28,040
Speaker 17: Logan Wilson. Trey Hendrickson just doesn't I don't know what

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01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:29,559
Speaker 17: he's like when the media is not in there, but

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01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:31,280
Speaker 17: when the media and there, he just doesn't seem like

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01:36:31,320 --> 01:36:35,120
Speaker 17: he's in the locker room interacting with players. He's hurt himself.

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Speaker 17: He may not even play again this week. He hasn't

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Speaker 17: practiced yet this week. And bj Hill is just you know,

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Speaker 17: he's he's he's got leadership qualities, but he's not that

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Speaker 17: that alpha leader that they're just desperately crating on this

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Speaker 17: side of the ball. And I think you know, a

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01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:51,920
Speaker 17: guy like Barrett Carter could be that guy, and I

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01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:53,800
Speaker 17: think that's part of the equation of why they they

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Speaker 17: turned to him over Logan Wilson is not just the

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Speaker 17: spark in play, but the sparking leadership. And still that's

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01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:02,720
Speaker 17: a lot to ask a rookie in this spot. So

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Speaker 17: that's that's my question, and none of the players want

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Speaker 17: to talk about it. But when they had that player's

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Speaker 17: only meeting, who was in the front of the room,

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Speaker 17: because I don't know who it would have been. And

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Speaker 17: I think it's a really interesting question, and maybe somewhere

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Speaker 17: down the line someone will be willing to say it,

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Speaker 17: But that's it. They are desperately seeking that on that

1925
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Speaker 17: side of the ball.

1926
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Speaker 1: I think I know who wasn't standing in front of

1927
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Speaker 1: the room. Who's that Mike Panell?

1928
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Speaker 17: Uh Yeah, yeah, he got out of here as fast

1929
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:33,160
Speaker 17: as possible. See, he ain't seen enough. And you know,

1930
01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:36,439
Speaker 17: and that's what sparked our Riders only meeting today because

1931
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:38,920
Speaker 17: none of us thought to ask Zach about what Mike

1932
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 17: Panello yesterday at the press conference. There was so many

1933
01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:44,639
Speaker 17: other issues that flipped everybody's mind. But it's just curious

1934
01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:46,599
Speaker 17: Duke always has that line about it's not his job

1935
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:48,479
Speaker 17: to make other teams better. Well, he just did that

1936
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:50,560
Speaker 17: by releasing Mike Panell to go to the Chiefs, the

1937
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:53,320
Speaker 17: team that could potentially stand in this team's way if

1938
01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:55,479
Speaker 17: they get things turned around and find a way of

1939
01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:56,040
Speaker 17: the playoffs.

1940
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Speaker 1: Who stood in front of the room during the writers meeting.

1941
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Speaker 15: Well, that will keep that between us. We'll keep that.

1942
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Speaker 1: I understand that. That's very good. Is this team's you know,

1943
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:10,760
Speaker 1: they've run the ball really effectively and it's it's sort

1944
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:13,680
Speaker 1: of gone. I don't want to say unnoticed, but the

1945
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:16,799
Speaker 1: way they lost last week, nobody wanted to talk about positives.

1946
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:19,639
Speaker 1: Are Are the Bengals now actually good at running the football?

1947
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Speaker 12: Yeah?

1948
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Speaker 2: I would say they are.

1949
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Speaker 17: It's I think it's notable that just the way that

1950
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:30,160
Speaker 17: they are moving people off the ball and there's holes.

1951
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Speaker 15: And then getting samage into the mix. And I think

1952
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:35,080
Speaker 15: that was part of the plan all along.

1953
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Speaker 17: But they just were so staggered on offense and they

1954
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:41,400
Speaker 17: just struggled to get first downs and get drives put together.

1955
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:43,920
Speaker 17: And and now that Flaco's in there and they're moving

1956
01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 17: the ball at a normal pace, they they're able to

1957
01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:48,280
Speaker 17: do that. They're able to run more plays and I

1958
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 17: think it's just all kind of building on itself. I

1959
01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 17: don't I don't think it's fools gold at all. I

1960
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:55,600
Speaker 17: really do think this has been two legitimate games of

1961
01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:59,400
Speaker 17: a really good rushing attack, and I would expect to

1962
01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:00,759
Speaker 17: see that continue.

1963
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Speaker 2: I think they found a little something there.

1964
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Speaker 17: Again, it probably goes to Joe Black would being more

1965
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:06,840
Speaker 17: willing to go under center and do the play action

1966
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Speaker 17: stuff and the stuff that Joe Burrow doesn't like to do.

1967
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Speaker 1: At what bar did the writers only meeting take place?

1968
01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:14,920
Speaker 2: Oh? It was in the media room here at the stage.

1969
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Speaker 15: Wow, that's that's probably that's we should have a follow up.

1970
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Speaker 2: That's the biggest would have been far more productive.

1971
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Speaker 1: That's the biggest upset of them all that you guys

1972
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Speaker 1: had a writer's only meeting and alcohol wasn't involved. Wow.

1973
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Speaker 1: All right, well.

1974
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's probably why it went south exactly.

1975
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Speaker 1: Have to research our priorities. Jay, thank you as always.

1976
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:33,519
Speaker 2: All right, thanks Bob.

1977
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Speaker 1: That's our man, Jay Morrison read him Bengals Talk dot Com,

1978
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:40,839
Speaker 1: part of the Growler Podcast with our friend Paul Daaner Junior.

1979
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Speaker 1: I wish we had another half hour, but as things are,

1980
01:39:45,479 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 1: we don't, so I'll remind you that Sunday morning with

1981
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Speaker 1: Tony and I just off an airplane back from Salt

1982
01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:56,599
Speaker 1: Lake City. We'll have the pregame show pregame sports talk

1983
01:39:56,960 --> 01:40:00,679
Speaker 1: at the Holy Grail starting at nine a the game

1984
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:03,479
Speaker 1: at one o'clock. The Tony and Mo Football Show moves

1985
01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:08,040
Speaker 1: back to Westchester for this week. Hopefully Union Center Boulevards

1986
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Speaker 1: overpasses back open. We're there on Monday. There's other ways

1987
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Speaker 1: to get there, so we hope you join us. Anything

1988
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1989
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1990
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Speaker 1: to Tarren Bland for producing, and of course thanks to

1991
01:40:25,880 --> 01:40:29,479
Speaker 1: you for listening. Bengals pep Rally is on in our

1992
01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:32,000
Speaker 1: show's place tomorrow, so we are done for the week.

1993
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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next week. Have an awesome night.

1994
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1995
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