WEBVTT - Friday Mornings with Jack Windsor

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<v Speaker 1>V Talk Station. 838 on a Friday. Sincere thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>the callers who tried to get in, but one segment late,

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<v Speaker 1>better late than never. Welcome, Jack Windsor. I was worried

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<v Speaker 1>about you, brother. I thought maybe you got all wrist-slashy

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<v Speaker 1>after the Tuesday election results, and we lost you, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back. I know you got some pent-up frustration, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's shared equally with my listening audience, but as I've

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<v Speaker 1>been telling everybody, you know what? Don't Let those fill-in-the-blank

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<v Speaker 1>FCC noncompliant descriptive term get you down. If they live

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<v Speaker 1>inside your head and you walk around and your day

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<v Speaker 1>is ruined and your week is ruined and the next

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years of your life feel ruined because they won,

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<v Speaker 1>then they win. Another battle. The battle in your head.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay positive. Stay strong. Let's keep fighting the fight. At

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<v Speaker 1>some point, the weight of their stupidity will fall down

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<v Speaker 1>upon them. Jack Windsor from TheOhioPressNetwork.com. Appreciate you indulging me

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<v Speaker 1>with that little intro, but I had to get it

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<v Speaker 1>out of my system. Welcome back, my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, first of all, it's always an honor and a

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<v Speaker 2>pleasure to be here. I am fully responsible. I had

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<v Speaker 2>an alarm set on my phone. I was doing another hit,

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<v Speaker 2>and my alarm didn't go off, and I'm talking, and

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<v Speaker 2>literally in the middle of my sentence, I hope this

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<v Speaker 2>makes you laugh, I told the other person, I go,

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<v Speaker 2>got to go, hung up, and then I jumped right on.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's on me. My alarm, I must not have

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<v Speaker 2>set the alarm the right way.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, what you just said, I want to tee it

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<v Speaker 2>up this way, and then we can talk about whatever

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<v Speaker 2>you want. I don't know if you, have you ever

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<v Speaker 2>seen the movie miracle, Brian?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember. I've seen so many movies, Jack. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember the ones I've seen and haven't seen. Remind

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<v Speaker 1>me real quick.

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<v Speaker 2>It's, it's, it's the movie about the 1980 U S

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<v Speaker 2>hockey team.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I did.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So remember when Kurt Russell's in the locker room

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<v Speaker 2>and he gives that really just moving speech and he starts,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't repeat it verbatim, but he says basically great

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<v Speaker 2>moments are made of great opportunities. And that's what you

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<v Speaker 2>have here this evening, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Great moments are born of great opportunities, and great

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<v Speaker 2>opportunities are on the heels of great losses. Where there

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<v Speaker 2>is a great disruption, there is always an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>learn a lesson and to take that great opportunity and

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<v Speaker 2>do a great thing. That's what people need to be

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<v Speaker 2>focused on. You're going to live your life anyway. You

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<v Speaker 2>get to choose. Are you going to find the opportunity,

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<v Speaker 2>capture the opportunity, and turn it into a moment a

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<v Speaker 2>year or two years down the road? That is the

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<v Speaker 2>only way out of this. I am as frustrated, angered,

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<v Speaker 2>concerned about the future of Ohio and the country as

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<v Speaker 2>anybody else. But I think that's where we have to

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<v Speaker 2>start in a mindset.

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<v Speaker 1>Fair enough. And putting aside the concerns of some out

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<v Speaker 1>there who believe maybe the election was stolen, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to go down that road, but the numbers were

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<v Speaker 1>pretty damn overwhelming. The tenuous connection that the Republican Party,

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<v Speaker 1>as evidenced by Donald Trump's victory a couple years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>The tenuous connection that the Republican Party had with those

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<v Speaker 1>wings within the Hispanic community, within the black community, with others,

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<v Speaker 1>that he was able to get them over to support

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<v Speaker 1>his campaign. But apparently the bubble was burst and they

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<v Speaker 1>all got let down and shifted dramatically back over to

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrats. And we even lost a lot of Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>who had the nerve to vote for a Democrat, which

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really– As mad as I might be about any

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<v Speaker 1>given politician, there is no way I'm going to cast

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<v Speaker 1>a vote for a Democrat knowing where the Democratic Party is.

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<v Speaker 1>So that sort of surprises me. If you can address

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<v Speaker 1>that phenomenon, Jack Windsor. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm still really trying to get into the numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a problem in Ohio because voters are classified Democrat

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<v Speaker 2>or Republican based on whether they pull a primary ballot.

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<v Speaker 2>And the challenge in Ohio is there are a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of voters who don't vote in the primary. They vote

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<v Speaker 2>in the general election. And so they're unaffiliated voters. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>the largest pool of voters in Ohio are unaffiliated. So

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<v Speaker 2>were true Republicans voting for Democrats? I'm not sure. But

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<v Speaker 2>certainly unaffiliated voters did more this election than they did

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<v Speaker 2>just two years ago. Now, one of the bans that

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<v Speaker 2>has been highlighted by Breitbart, I believe, the 18 to

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<v Speaker 2>29-year-olds flipped 55 points in just two years. Now, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how big that pie is. Maybe it's 7%

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<v Speaker 2>of the electorate. But I think that's a signal, right?

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<v Speaker 2>It's not the full data set, but it's a signal.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's what I really boil it down to. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's why I think J.D. Vance came out Wednesday and

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<v Speaker 2>said what he said. America first, no new wars. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to fix the economy. Those were some of the

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<v Speaker 2>many things that Trump promised. And there are a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people who feel like he went back on his word,

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<v Speaker 2>had a war that cost lives and cost money. It

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<v Speaker 2>increased the price of gasoline it increased the price of

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<v Speaker 2>everything because diesel touches everything uh and also there are

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people on the right side of the

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<v Speaker 2>aisle i saw this in social media six months before

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<v Speaker 2>the election who believe that we're in iran and doing

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<v Speaker 2>other things at the at the at the behest of

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<v Speaker 2>bb and the israelis yeah so there are a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people who don't feel like he's put america first

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<v Speaker 2>and look he didn't say i'm going to make things

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<v Speaker 2>the cheapest in the history of the world and fix

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<v Speaker 2>it completely he said we're going to make it better

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<v Speaker 2>and we did economically Gas prices are not $ 5 a

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<v Speaker 2>gallon like they were in 2022. Inflation is not peaking

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<v Speaker 2>at 9% like it did in 2022. But Americans don't

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<v Speaker 2>care because we're still paying more than we thought. Anybody

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<v Speaker 2>who sells will tell you if you over promise and

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<v Speaker 2>under deliver, you create an expectation and then dissatisfaction. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think those three things together really turned off voters.

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<v Speaker 2>If you remember in 2024, it was a resounding victory.

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<v Speaker 2>People were coalesced and they said, let's go do this.

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<v Speaker 2>And two years later, they were like, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>we voted for this. What the hell has changed? And

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<v Speaker 2>I think from a national headwind standpoint, that was extremely

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<v Speaker 2>problematic to overcome.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and, you know, I suppose the bubble seems to

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<v Speaker 1>have burst insofar as the Trump magnetism or whatever. What

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<v Speaker 1>I observed and, you know, feel free as a political

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<v Speaker 1>observer to draw a different conclusion. It seems to me

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<v Speaker 1>based upon, you know, maybe J.D. Vance's post. with regard

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<v Speaker 1>to blaming the war on this calamity that happened Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are other prominent politicians saying things out loud

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<v Speaker 1>critical of Donald Trump now. It seems to me that

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<v Speaker 1>after the election, the whole idea of keeping quiet on

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<v Speaker 1>any criticism of Trump for fear of alienating the rabid

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<v Speaker 1>MAGA folks has disappeared now. And in order to diss

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<v Speaker 1>themselves from evil orange man as we get close to 2028,

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to have to start showing that, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I was not a MAGA always kind of person because

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrats aren't going to have Donald Trump to be

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<v Speaker 1>their whipping boy and their evil enemy anymore. He's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be gone. I guess kind of ask is this

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<v Speaker 1>corollary question. Sorry for the compound long winded nature. What

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<v Speaker 1>are they going to do without Donald Trump?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, you know, I think I talked about a

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<v Speaker 2>year ago on this and maybe you and I've talked

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<v Speaker 2>about it before. The Republicans in Ohio have done it.

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans all over the country have done it. It's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like the Me Too movement for MAGA. Yep, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a Trump acolyte. That's me, man. America first, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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<v Speaker 2>But who are you really? And I think that's where

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<v Speaker 2>there's the chink in the armor. A lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>are going, I hear you say that you're MAGA, but

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on nationally, MAGA's not MAGA. We're not putting

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<v Speaker 2>America first. Prices are not coming down. We're not abstaining

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<v Speaker 2>from fighting other people's wars. And so when you brand

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<v Speaker 2>yourself that now, all of a sudden, the national headwinds

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<v Speaker 2>are on your shoulders and it's going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>time of reckoning. And frankly, there were a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people in the beginning, Brian, who didn't like Trump, but

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<v Speaker 2>Trump inspired the populist movement and they got behind him

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<v Speaker 2>because they didn't want to get picked off. Well, that's gone.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a lame duck now. So those people will come

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<v Speaker 2>out of the woodwork. But national headwinds are not the

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<v Speaker 2>only problem that we have in Ohio. There's a whole

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<v Speaker 2>host of problems there. And I know you probably have

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<v Speaker 2>to take a break soon. And I can unpack some

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<v Speaker 2>of those. But don't let anybody in Ohio tell you

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<v Speaker 2>that this happened only because of national headwinds. Ohio Republicans

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<v Speaker 2>have their own host of problems they need to solve

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<v Speaker 2>pretty quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, isn't that a nice segue point? Pause. We'll bring

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<v Speaker 1>you back. That's called a tease. Jack Wins is good

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<v Speaker 1>at that. TheOhioPressNetwork.com. Follow him throughout the week. Bookmark the website.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll bring Jack back after these brief words. Could you

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<v Speaker 1>use a hand with the information and the books? Get

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<v Speaker 1>a copy of Joshua Lysak's book, Haitians of Springfield. Frightening

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that is, but you know, reality is something different

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<v Speaker 1>than what you're sold in the mainstream media. And you

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<v Speaker 1>get reality at theohiopressnetwork.com. It's Jack Windsor's site. Jack's on

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<v Speaker 1>the show with a nice tease about what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>here in Ohio compared to the national problems we're facing.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack. Yeah, so you and I have talked ad nauseum

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<v Speaker 2>on this show about Vivek and Our concerns played out, right?

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<v Speaker 2>He received fewer votes than any of the other Republican

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<v Speaker 2>statewide candidates on Tuesday. And I'm going to go back

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<v Speaker 2>to a moment in time. I'm sure that you, your listeners, me,

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<v Speaker 2>my listeners, our friends, our friend groups have been saying

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<v Speaker 2>for a long time that American culture is broken, that

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<v Speaker 2>the Marxist march through our institutions had been complete, that

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<v Speaker 2>our kids were being taught what to think and not

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<v Speaker 2>how to think in school. And we were all in

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<v Speaker 2>agreement on that. But I want to take you back

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<v Speaker 2>to around Christmas last year. Do you remember when Vivek

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<v Speaker 2>Ramaswamy made some comments about other countries that are leading

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<v Speaker 2>internationally and how their kids study math and our kids

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<v Speaker 2>play football and other such things? Do you remember the

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<v Speaker 2>backlash from that, Brian?

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, there's backlash to anything coming out of a conservative-leaning person.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't specifically recall hearing that backlash, but it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't surprise me a whit.

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<v Speaker 2>So there were a lot of people who– one of

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<v Speaker 2>the narratives that surrounded Vivek's candidacy was he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>do the H-1B thing, bring in a bunch of Indian

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<v Speaker 2>immigrants and replace American jobs, right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>And that all stemmed back to that December– I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was around December of 2025 social media post. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>that right there should have been an aha moment. If

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<v Speaker 2>I criticize my wife lovingly, if I say, hey, honey,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you could ask me that in a little different voice,

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of sounds nagging. I'm okay with that. If

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<v Speaker 2>another man criticizes my wife, gloves come off, right? So

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<v Speaker 2>when Republicans are saying it, it's okay. But when Vivek

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<v Speaker 2>says it, people go apoplectic. That should have been a

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<v Speaker 2>moment that people went, oh, Republicans are not looking at

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<v Speaker 2>him like a member of the family. We better figure

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<v Speaker 2>that out.

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<v Speaker 1>Good point.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was the beginning. And Vivek died by a

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<v Speaker 2>thousand paper cuts. His political candidacy died by a thousand

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<v Speaker 2>paper cuts. You can throw on all the other stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But there was that part of it. There was this

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<v Speaker 2>narrative that he bought his endorsement or the Rhino establishment

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<v Speaker 2>had him endorsed early. That really wasn't true. There are

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<v Speaker 2>some people who will still argue with me on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm agreeing with you all across the board. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been pointing out because I've heard it directly from

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<v Speaker 1>people's mouths, his religion and maybe even the color of

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<v Speaker 1>his skin was a reason that they would not vote

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<v Speaker 1>for him. I mean, I'm like, you want Governor Amy,

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<v Speaker 1>Amy Act, Governor Amy Act. I'm sorry, Jack, it's still

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<v Speaker 1>bringing bile up in the back of my throat that

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<v Speaker 1>we're that dumb that we're going to elect someone who

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<v Speaker 1>did everything she did and wouldn't even bother debating anything.

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<v Speaker 1>The candidate wouldn't articulate principles, just promised she was going

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<v Speaker 1>to lower the price of goods without articulating an argument

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<v Speaker 1>in favor of how she's going to do it. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>we went down that road, and part of the reason

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<v Speaker 1>is some people carrying a chip on their shoulder thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, that we live in a theocracy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, there's a lot. First of all, I

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<v Speaker 2>think Vivek could have defined himself better out of the gate,

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<v Speaker 2>and because he didn't, because there were some chinks in

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<v Speaker 2>the armor, so to speak, you know, and I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of gave you the warning shot over the top with

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<v Speaker 2>So if he had defined himself, maybe things wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 2>gone as sideways. But here's the other part. Amy Acton

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<v Speaker 2>is an empty suit. You and I know that. She

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<v Speaker 2>was incompetent as the health director. But you know what

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<v Speaker 2>she and her campaign did successfully? They created an archetype

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<v Speaker 2>and flipped on MAGA what MAGA became powerful by. She

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<v Speaker 2>made it look like she was David. And Vivek was Goliath.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the outsider. She was the outsider. She was

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<v Speaker 2>the little guy. He was the guy that was the

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<v Speaker 2>establishment rhino guy who had all the money. And she

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<v Speaker 2>was fighting against him. And it worked. That was an

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<v Speaker 2>example of selling the sizzle and not the steak. And

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<v Speaker 2>so I think there's a lesson there in messaging for Republicans.

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<v Speaker 1>A lesson in messaging that we need to appeal to

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<v Speaker 1>people who aren't paying any attention whatsoever to politics. That

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<v Speaker 1>her message was able to successfully convince people that was

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<v Speaker 1>the truth. That is a reflection of ignorance among the population, Jack.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and here's the problem with that. Guys like us

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<v Speaker 2>and that are guys and girls that are listening, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to give a man a fish. We want

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<v Speaker 2>to teach him how to fish. We want to correct

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<v Speaker 2>how people think that some people will never be corrected.

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<v Speaker 2>That can be futile. So what you have to do

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<v Speaker 2>is influence them instead. That's how Amy Hacton and the

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats win. They sell the sizzle. They don't worry about

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<v Speaker 2>the steak.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and the other thing I must observe before we

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<v Speaker 1>part company, at least I am of the mind, And

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<v Speaker 1>I've always been in awe of the Democrats' ability to

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<v Speaker 1>get people up and vote. They coordinate. They're social media savvy.

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<v Speaker 1>They're interacting all year long through their activism and their

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<v Speaker 1>protests and their pick a left-wing cause. They're all energized

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. You know, some left-winger over there has

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<v Speaker 1>got a different cause. Well, I'm a left-winger over here

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<v Speaker 1>with some other cause. I'll join in the fun. They're

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<v Speaker 1>clearly connected, and it clearly works with them to get

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<v Speaker 1>them to go out and vote. It does.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think part of it, listen, I'm not a

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<v Speaker 2>social scientist, but I think part of it is people

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<v Speaker 2>who are wired to be Democrats are more collective by nature.

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<v Speaker 2>People who are wired to be libertarian or Republican are not.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of the problems in the Republican Party is

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<v Speaker 2>instead of being a collective person, I want to figure

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<v Speaker 2>out how do I profit off of this? And so

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<v Speaker 2>you get people who fight for their own little fiefdoms

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<v Speaker 2>instead of uniting and fighting together as a party member.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, hopefully the destruction of our country and the elimination

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<v Speaker 1>of the Constitution and the enactment of these broad social

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<v Speaker 1>policies that are already bankrupting our country will get people

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<v Speaker 1>to wake up and think, hmm, maybe the Tea Party

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<v Speaker 1>was right. Fiscal responsibility, limited government, and free markets are

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<v Speaker 1>the only way to go. Jack Windsor, TheOhioPressNetwork.com. I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>you being on the program, and I'm not angry with

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<v Speaker 1>you for missing. I get it, brother. I'm sure it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a really busy week for you. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for being patient. It's okay, man. Listen, I

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy it.