1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,519 Speaker 1: Is Tony Pike sincey three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati, 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: sponsored in Park by Cincy Shirts, Cincy Shirts all sincey 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: all day. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 4 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: All right now re number two. 5 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 3: Thanks to our friends a't Cincy's shirts and thank you 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 3: for listening. On ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, Tuesday 7 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 3: hour two. We dive right in with our guy from 8 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 3: Fox nineteen. They're covered to the Bengals and really all 9 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 3: sports is immaculate and he joins us right now. Joe Daniman, Hi, Joe. 10 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 4: Tody Austin, Happy New Year. You got ready to turn 11 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 4: up tomorrow night? 12 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 3: Oh Man, turn up, turnout, you name it. I'm doing it. 13 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 3: You got any big New Year's players? 14 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 4: I plan on doing tomorrow night on New Year's evens 15 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 4: watching football. That's what get be Oh. 16 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, you fired up for the Buckeyes, Joe, Is that 17 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 5: what it is? 18 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to that game. You know. It's been 19 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 4: interesting to last what seven to ten days, ever since 20 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 4: Miami beat Texas A and m where there's this idea 21 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 4: that Miami might be able to expose a couple of 22 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 4: flaws in Ohio State and I'm curious about it. In fact, 23 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 4: I spoke to Seth McLaughlin inside the Banglis locker room 24 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 4: yesterday and I was talking to him about the idea 25 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 4: that Miami has these guys on the defensive line that 26 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,559 Speaker 4: can really get after Ohio State's offensive line, who doesn't 27 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 4: have a great run game they're not great and short 28 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 4: yardage and he said, what are we doing? He said, 29 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 4: what are we what are we doing? He said, Ohio 30 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 4: State has the best roster in the sport. They're going 31 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 4: to win the game. And he said, you know, in fact, 32 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,559 Speaker 4: they're going to score a lot of points. So I said, okay, okay, 33 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 4: you called your shot. We'll see how it is. He 34 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 4: does think Georgia is a big threat. 35 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: But George's flying under the radar. 36 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 4: Last year thinks that Ohio State could beat Miami. What's 37 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 4: that time. 38 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: George's flying under the radar. 39 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: I feel like from a lot of people, no one 40 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 3: talks about the SEC champs or plus five hundred to 41 00:01:59,160 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 3: win it all? 42 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 4: How can nobody be talking about the SCR Nobody from 43 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 4: thet CC is ever under the radar? Come on, now, 44 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,399 Speaker 4: come on now, now, what's interest thing about Georgia is Georgia. 45 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 4: All the numbers throughout the year will tell you that 46 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 4: that this isn't normal Georgia. Georgia's defense isn't built like 47 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 4: it usually is. But there's also a lot of people, 48 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 4: myself included, who thinks they're rounding into form at the 49 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 4: end of the year and they're playing their best at 50 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 4: the right time. So I think if we get Ohio 51 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 4: State Georgia in the semi finals, it's going to be 52 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 4: a fantastic football game. I think I think the four 53 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 4: quarter finals are all lining up to be great games. 54 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,839 Speaker 4: But certainly when talking about Ohio State Miami, I kind 55 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 4: of lean with Seth mclough. From the closer we get 56 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 4: to the game, I think Ohio State is going to 57 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 4: be fine. 58 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 3: I think it'll be fascinating with the four teams that 59 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 3: had buys last year all losing, how teams deal with 60 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 3: that extra time off. But outside of that, I agree 61 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: you Ohigh State's got the best roster of the remaining teams. 62 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 3: They should win the game. Before we dive into the Bengals, Joe, 63 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 3: let me ask two NFL questions for you. One, who 64 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 3: is your NFL MVP? In two, because I think this 65 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 3: list could contain seven or eight different coaches. 66 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: Who's your coach of the Year in the NFL? 67 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 4: All right, I'll start with MVP. Up until last night, 68 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 4: it was, for sure Matthew Stafford. And then what Drake 69 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 4: May did this weekend, and then what Matt Stafford did 70 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 4: last night, I think he's closed the gap. I still 71 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 4: kind of sometimes feel like that award, or any award 72 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 4: of that magnitude can be somewhat of a lifetime achievement award, 73 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 4: and so I think Matt Stafford might get the benefit 74 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 4: of the doubt over Drake May because he's played in 75 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 4: the league so long that he might end up getting 76 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 4: that award. But I think what Drake May has done 77 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 4: this year. I go back to what I was having 78 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 4: discussions with some of my friends who watch football as 79 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 4: much as we do, and I sent him a text 80 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,119 Speaker 4: about halfway through the year and I said, Drake May 81 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 4: is a top fill in the blank quarterback right now. 82 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 4: And everybody wanted to say, oh, top ten, top eight. 83 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 4: I'm like, at what point does this guy jump into 84 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 4: the top five with what he's doing, considering what he's 85 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 4: playing with as well, and now he's not playing with plumbers, 86 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 4: but he certainly doesn't have Davante Adams and Puka Nakua 87 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 4: and Kyron Williams, all guys that can rise to the level 88 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 4: of Pro Bowl players around him. So I think he's 89 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 4: done more with less than when Matt Stafford does. But 90 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 4: I'm gonna lean Matt Stafford is a bit of a 91 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 4: lifetime achievement. Now as far as Coach of the Year goes, 92 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 4: I'm going to immediately jump to my mind was Sean 93 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 4: McVay and everything he's done. And I think once you 94 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 4: get into a playoff game, you see Sean McVay is 95 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 4: one of the best at what he does. Sure, but 96 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 4: I think and you start thinking about teams that are 97 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 4: going to go to the Super Bowl, and I start 98 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 4: thinking about the AFC and are we going to be 99 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 4: surprised if we look up in six weeks and Dimiko 100 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 4: Ryans at the Houston Texas and the Super Bowl? 101 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: I don't think so. 102 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 5: Nope, that what I said. 103 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 4: Is my vote. 104 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 3: Okay, you mentioned Drake May and the quarterback position. They 105 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 3: have one here in Cincinnati. I think could be the top. 106 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 3: If not, he's in the conversation for the top two 107 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: in the league, and Joe Burrow He's going to play 108 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 3: on Sunday. Zach Taylor made that very clear. On the 109 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 3: other side of the ball, Miles Garrett's going for the 110 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,239 Speaker 3: NFL sack record. We just saw that that this Cleveland 111 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 3: defense is still flexing its muscles. I know Joe wants 112 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 3: to play. I know Joe gives them the best chance 113 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 3: to play. Seeing what you've seen the last two weeks, 114 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 3: have you waivered from not at all, or do you 115 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 3: agree with sending Joe Burrow out there on Sunday. 116 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 4: Well, here's what I think is what we're getting. I 117 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 4: think this is Dak Taylor in the Bengals organization understanding 118 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 4: if they want people to come to the game, they 119 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 4: want to sell tickets, they have to say that Joe 120 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 4: Burrows playing. And they say Joe Burrow is playing. Joe 121 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 4: Burrow is going to play what a quarter, maybe two, 122 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 4: maybe to halftime. I kind of feel like this is 123 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 4: going to play out like a preseason game. This is 124 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 4: just a guess. But if Zach Taylor comes out of 125 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 4: the podiums today and says, you know, Joe Burrow is 126 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 4: not playing, You're going to have thirty five thousand people 127 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 4: in the stadium. But if you come out and say 128 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 4: Joe Burrow is going to play, there are going to 129 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 4: be people who want to come see him play. There 130 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 4: are a lot of people who've never seen him play 131 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 4: in person. For example, my kids for Christmas, they had 132 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 4: never seen Joe Burrow play, two of them and they 133 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 4: had a chance to go watch him and they saw 134 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 4: him play against the Arizona Cardinals and what looked like 135 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 4: the best offense in the NFL. So I think the 136 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 4: Bangles kind of have to do this organizationally just to 137 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 4: get some butts and seats for Sunday's game. But I 138 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 4: do think it'll play out almost like a preseason game. 139 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 4: Even going back to my conversation after the game with 140 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:52,799 Speaker 4: de mar Chase, if you saw it, we were talking 141 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 4: about his numbers and his outside chance to break his 142 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 4: own franchise records for catches in the season. Right now, 143 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 4: he's at one seventeen, the records one twenty seven. And 144 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 4: this guy has had probably multiple games this year with 145 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 4: fifteen or more targets. When I say multiple, probably four 146 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 4: or five if you go back and look at the stats. 147 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 4: So certainly he can catch eleven passes in the game, 148 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 4: but he shot it down immediately like I'm not getting that, 149 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 4: and I kind of thought, in the back of my head, Okay, 150 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 4: he knows something we don't know about how it's going 151 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 4: to play Sunday against the Browns. So yeah, I'm okay 152 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 4: with the Bengals treating this like a preseason game of 153 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 4: playing Joe Burrow for a quarter maybe two, Jamar Chase 154 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 4: for a quarter maybe two, and then putting those guys 155 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 4: on ice for the offseason. 156 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 3: Offensively, we know the weapons at the disposal of Joe Burrow. 157 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 3: How much do you think Cody Ford plays into the 158 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 3: plans in the future at maybe wide receiver number three? 159 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 4: How fun was that? How fun has this been? And 160 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 4: it's a cool thing because and I've had this discussion 161 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 4: a few times on our Sunday Night Bengals show about 162 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 4: watching this team at the end of the season. If 163 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 4: this is your favorite team, whatever your favorite team is, 164 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 4: when they're in the situation where they're playing games that 165 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 4: don't have any playoff meaning attached, it can be one 166 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 4: of two things. Right, you can sit back and be 167 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 4: entertained and enjoy watching your team play, or you can 168 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 4: be frustrated at heck, wondering what if and wondering why 169 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 4: now and where was this, and I think that's a 170 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 4: hard thing too. And I can't tell Bengals fans how 171 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 4: to fan and how to watch the game and how 172 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 4: to either enjoy it or be frustrated by it. But 173 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 4: I will say this about the offense and the way 174 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 4: it's looked the last couple of weeks. We all know 175 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 4: what it looks like when Joe, Jamar and t is 176 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 4: going the way they're going right now. And these are 177 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,359 Speaker 4: the results, and certainly the fact that Miami and Arizona 178 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 4: look disinterested helped the Bengals put up the numbers they did, 179 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 4: but to win back to back games by twenty plus 180 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 4: points for the first time since the Super Bowl season, 181 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 4: and then the first time since before that was the 182 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 4: twenty fifteen season, which I think a lot of us 183 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 4: would argue is a Marvin's best team and be probably 184 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 4: the second best team that this franchise has had in 185 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 4: the last twenty five years. So when they're playing at 186 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 4: the level of the twenty fifteen team and the twenty 187 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 4: twenty one team, it can be frustrating. It can be 188 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 4: a what could have been, or it can be very 189 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 4: realistic what this still might be. Once the Bengals tried 190 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 4: to get it figured out again this coming offseason. They 191 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 4: tried last offseason. It didn't work defensively. We've seen some 192 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 4: growth defensively through the year, but it's still there, right, 193 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 4: It's still in there with this team that they can 194 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 4: perform at this level. They're not far off. And when 195 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 4: I asked Zach Taylor about this yesterday, I said, what's 196 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 4: the one message do you want to give to fans 197 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 4: about twenty twenty six after seeing the way it's played 198 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 4: out the last couple of weeks. He said three words, 199 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 4: We'll be back. It will be back means they'll be 200 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 4: back in the playoffs. They'll be back playing for big games, 201 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 4: trying to win playoff games, trying to win championships. The 202 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 4: long road to go. But I do think, and again 203 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 4: I won't tell fans how to fan, not to be 204 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 4: frustrated by what they're seeing, but also enjoy what you're watching. 205 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 4: I think it's okay to drink a little bit of 206 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 4: the kool aid and see what it's still very realistically 207 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 4: can be with these three being the core of a 208 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 4: team going forward. 209 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 5: We've talked a lot about the offensive line. One of 210 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 5: the names that stands out to me is Dalton Reisner. 211 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 5: What's the vibe that you get internally about the way 212 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 5: that maybe they feel internally I should say about Dalton 213 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 5: Reisner and potentially bringing him back this offseason. 214 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 4: Well, I know he wants to come back. He has 215 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 4: said that publicly multiple times that he really likes the 216 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 4: fit Yere loves playing with Joe Burrow, likes playing with 217 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 4: this offensive line, and it seems to be he's a 218 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 4: bit of kind of the glue that finally put this 219 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 4: whole thing together. Once he got his feet wet and 220 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 4: his feet under him and they started playing as a 221 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 4: cohesive unit. They've been very good the second half of 222 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 4: the year. Joe Burrow has said it, that Taylor has 223 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 4: said it. This is the best the offensive line has 224 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 4: played over a chunk of time in their time here 225 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 4: in Cincinnati. So I wouldn't mess with a good thing 226 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 4: and try to replace him with anybody else. I can't 227 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 4: speak for the Bengals organization, but I don't know how 228 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 4: you could look at it what they have right now 229 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 4: and not want to run it back and bring him 230 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 4: back and have him be part of this offensive line. 231 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 4: Because what they're doing in the passing game, what they're 232 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 4: doing in the run game right now, I think is 233 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 4: proof that this can be. And I would even argue 234 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 4: if you go into some of the analytical stats that 235 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 4: this is the best offense in the world when they're healthy, 236 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 4: and they've been healthy the last two weeks. And I 237 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 4: know at Miami and I know it's the Arizona but 238 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 4: even going back to Buffalo as well, the way they 239 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 4: looked on the road in the snow against Buffalo, this 240 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 4: is the best offense in the world. And if you 241 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 4: can have continuity coming back in twenty twenty six from 242 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 4: two thousand in twenty five, what are the big questions 243 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 4: we always ask right is fix the defense, fix the 244 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 4: offensive line. The offensive line is healthy. It's in a 245 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 4: great space right now. So what it takes is bringing 246 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 4: him back. Do it bring him back, continue the continuity 247 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 4: going forward and protect Joe Burrow the best you can 248 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 4: going forward with this offensive line. They have to feel 249 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 4: comfortable and I sure hope they have to feel like 250 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 4: they have to bring Dalton Reisner back because it feels 251 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 4: like he's been the final piece to this offensive line 252 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 4: starting to play the kind of football they have to play. 253 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 3: What do you make We mentioned so much about Higgins 254 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 3: and or t Higgins and Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow. 255 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 3: Chase Brown's fifty three yards away from a thousand yard 256 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 3: rushing season. With a huge game, he could reach over 257 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 3: fifteen hundred total yards. 258 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 2: On the season. 259 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 3: Talk about his development, as we often talk about Duke 260 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 3: Tobin's draft classes. You look at where they got him 261 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 3: in the twenty twenty three draft. Is he a guy 262 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 3: you're highlighting maybe earlier than the contract will be up 263 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 3: to maybe try to link in long term and be 264 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 3: a part of this going forward. I know it's usually 265 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 3: a little bit dicey with running backs and how you 266 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 3: handle those contracts, but with what you've seen from Chase Brown, 267 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 3: is he a guy? Maybe you start the conversation early 268 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 3: on getting an extension done. 269 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 4: So he is fifty plus yards away from one thousand 270 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 4: rushing and then eighty one away from five hundred receiving. 271 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 4: I know that would be a monster game. That would 272 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 4: be a Christian mccafss type game to become the first 273 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 4: Bengals player with a thousand yards rushing and five hundred receiving. 274 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 4: Unless I'm wrong. I went back and looked at this 275 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 4: the other night. No Bengal has gone one thousand, five 276 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 4: hundred rushing and receiving since James Brooks in nineteen eighty six. 277 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 4: So even if he doesn't get there, that's the kind 278 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 4: of conversation he's in right now for the kind of 279 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 4: year he's had for the Bengals. And if you look 280 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 4: at the numbers, when he's with Joe Burrow and without 281 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 4: Joe Burrow, he preperforms like a top seven running back, 282 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 4: maybe even higher when Joe Burrow's in there, and then 283 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 4: when Joe Burrow wasn't, his numbers were down. I think 284 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 4: the biggest key for Chase Brown and what's unlocked his 285 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 4: confidence and unlocked his all around game is getting him 286 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 4: the ball and checkdowns not necessarily in the middle of 287 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 4: the field, but more often to the flat, giving him 288 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 4: a chance to put a foot in the ground, make 289 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 4: a guy miss, and make some plays. The Bengals did 290 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 4: that Sunday twice where they weaponized a check down with 291 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 4: Chase Brown, and it made a huge difference for this team. 292 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 4: And I think that's what you're seeing. You're seeing the 293 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 4: confidence of him putting the foot in the ground and 294 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 4: accelerating on one cut and becoming just an awesome running 295 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 4: back this year. I think his performance here the second 296 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 4: half of the season has elevated him into the conversation 297 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 4: of what I think will be one of the more 298 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 4: fascinating debates for Bengals front office members and also Bengals 299 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 4: fans and shows like this of deciding what to do 300 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 4: with Chase Brown in a second contract, because after they 301 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 4: gave Joe Mixon the money for a second contract, I 302 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 4: think we all said, Okay, that'll be the last time 303 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 4: the Bengals do that. Right. They'll they'll draft, we'll get 304 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 4: the four years, they'll move on, they'll bring in a rookie, 305 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 4: they'll plug and play. And maybe that's still the plan, 306 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 4: and that's fine. But Chase Brown's a pretty special dude, 307 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 4: and what he's done the last two years isn't just produced. 308 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 4: His availability has been remarkable. For as many times as 309 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 4: he's got the ball for his size, the guy plays 310 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 4: every Sunday, he doesn't get hurt, he produces, and he's 311 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 4: now put himself in the conversation of do the Bengals 312 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 4: look at a second contract for Chase Brown? One that 313 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 4: I would have said no before, but now I say 314 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 4: maybe so. And I think that also, guys opens up 315 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 4: the conversation up going back to what Joe Burrow talked 316 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 4: about when he said they need to get more creative 317 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 4: in roster building. And maybe that's starting to look at 318 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 4: guys like Chase Brown and a Dack and a DJ 319 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 4: Turner who's still have a year left here in Cincinnati 320 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 4: on a contract and start getting ahead of it, get 321 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 4: ahead of it and lock these guys up that look, 322 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 4: they're not the big three, they're not the foundational pieces, 323 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 4: but their next tier guys that help you win games 324 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 4: and help you go to playoff games and help you 325 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 4: win championships are the guys that you build around your 326 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 4: big three, and guys like Dax Hill and DJ Turner 327 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 4: and maybe a Chase Brown or guys that you reward 328 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 4: early before they price themselves out of Cincinnati before the 329 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 4: negotiations start to turn into something ugly. And I think 330 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 4: that might be a little bit of what Joe Burrow 331 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 4: might be hinting at, that it's not just draft and develop, 332 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 4: it's reward early and then dive into free agency and 333 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 4: build a roster that way. So it's gonna be fascinating 334 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 4: trying to figure out what the Bangers are going to 335 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 4: do with Chase Brown because the way he fits and 336 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 4: the way he's played, I think he has made himself 337 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 4: a candidate to possibly getting paid on a second time 338 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 4: contract with the Bengals. 339 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 3: How about Geno Stone? Are we going to talk ourselves 340 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 3: into Geno Stone coming back? Because I heard out Golden 341 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 3: Boy talk about how much he likes and how much 342 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 3: he's improving. 343 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 2: Surely that's coach speak. Joe. 344 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 4: Yes. I was in the room yesterday when he was 345 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 4: talking about that, and I said, boy, God, bless the 346 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 4: poor person in this room, because there's about twelve people 347 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 4: in the media in the rooms taking notes and penning tweets. 348 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 4: I said, who's going to be the poor soul that 349 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 4: puts that out there and says rip ned mentioned for 350 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 4: about a week. I said, I'm not touching that. No, 351 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 4: I want no piece of that. Yeah, Genostone had to go. 352 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 4: And I think it's been important because we've talked, you know, 353 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 4: through seventeen weeks about about the Bengals defense and about 354 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 4: what guys have proven they should be relied upon as 355 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 4: contributors going forward. And I think it's just as important 356 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 4: to find the guys that you need to weed out 357 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 4: and guys that you can't rely on going forward. And 358 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 4: I think we here today and look at guys under 359 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 4: contract for next year and picked out players that we 360 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 4: think should be back as contributors slash starters for the Bengals. 361 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 4: I think there's a solid six. There's a solid six 362 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 4: on defense, and the others are all up for grabs. 363 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 4: Starting with number twenty two, Geno Stone has to go. 364 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 4: There has to be a difference, There has to be 365 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 4: a change. And yes, that was even if it's not 366 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 4: coach speaking, Genostone is helping with communication and getting guys 367 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 4: lined up. God love you, great job. But when the 368 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 4: ball snap, it's not good enough. And that's where games 369 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 4: are one that four to six seconds right in his 370 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 4: four to six seconds has not been good enough. And 371 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 4: we all saw it Sunday when he completely whipped on 372 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 4: a wide receiver running down the sideline and it ended 373 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 4: up in a touchdown. Yeah, that's gotta be the first 374 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 4: person in the first position. That is addressed once the 375 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 4: Bengals season is over, how. 376 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,479 Speaker 3: Much has Miles Murphy helped not only his case, but 377 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 3: maybe the view of this defense going forward. It's obvious 378 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 3: a defense that needs to add starters in my opinion 379 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 3: every level. But the consistent play of Miles Murphy has 380 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 3: to be something that as seen as an extreme positive 381 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:16,719 Speaker 3: down the stretch of this season. 382 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 4: There's no question he can be counted on as a contributor. Now, 383 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 4: I don't think he can count on him as your 384 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 4: number one defensive end. I think he'd be slots in 385 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 4: as your number two guy, you're in a good position. 386 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 4: I think if you slot him in as your number 387 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 4: three guy, you're in a great position. Spotting him in 388 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 4: his number three would mean that Shamar Stewart takes a 389 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 4: big leap to number two and the angles go out 390 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 4: and find a number one, probably not Trey Henderson, but 391 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 4: probably find someone else to play that position. But even 392 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,479 Speaker 4: if you had to go Shamar Stewart and Miles Murphy 393 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 4: as your defensive ends, it's not the worst thing in 394 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 4: the world. It's not ideal. And that's a credit to 395 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 4: Miles Murphy that the light bulb has finally gone on 396 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 4: some what you know. We had Andrea Yoshibots on our 397 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 4: Live Bengal show last night and we did kind of 398 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 4: the end of the year superlatives and one of the 399 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 4: questions I asked was, what player, Andre do you think 400 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 4: who is in a star right now is most likely 401 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 4: to become a star, and he said immediately, Miles Murphy, 402 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 4: he said, he's got every tool he pops in practice, 403 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 4: and the way other guys talk about him in the 404 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 4: locker room and in the coach's meeting rooms. He feels 405 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 4: like he's got a shot here to really pop in 406 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 4: year four next year after really starting to show some 407 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 4: flashes in year three. I think at the beginning of 408 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 4: the year, the jury was kind of out right. We 409 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 4: didn't know about this guy, and I'm sure some people 410 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 4: had already convicted him of being a bust. And I 411 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 4: think I might have been one of those guys. I'll 412 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 4: rap my head and say, I don't think Miles Murphy 413 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 4: has it. I don't know if he can be a contributor, 414 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 4: but he has proven a lot of people wrong in 415 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 4: this year, and I think he's a guy you can 416 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 4: rely on to me as one of the six players 417 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 4: you can bring back defensively next year and feel really 418 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 4: comfortable with if he's a starter on this defense. And 419 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 4: that's a credit to him. Some guys take longer to 420 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 4: develop for whatever reason, but he finally reached that point 421 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 4: this year where he's making plays and the Bengals can 422 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 4: count on him. I think in twenty twenty six. 423 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 3: The last question I have on the Bengals is that 424 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: development word, because this isn't development time for this organization. 425 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow's going to be thirty next year. We've talked 426 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 3: about the psychology side of Joe Burrow's actions a couple 427 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 3: of weeks ago. I don't feel like you've got time 428 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 3: to just wait slowly for guys on the defensive side 429 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 3: of the ball to develop. So that would lead me 430 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 3: to the question of as this season comes to a 431 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 3: close and you look to next year, what is your 432 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 3: initial thoughts on what you're doing in the linebacker room. 433 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 4: Well, I think they have developed some guys, and I 434 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 4: think that's what's been good about this year. I think 435 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 4: the DJ Turner and Dak Hill's story has been great 436 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 4: for this defense in twenty twenty five, that those guys 437 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 4: have given a chance to go out and prove who 438 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 4: they are. And so I think even though this year 439 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 4: feels like a drop back fifteen yards in punt, there 440 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 4: are some good stories on defense At linebacker. I'm counting 441 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 4: one of the two rookies as a guy that you 442 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 4: can rely on for next year. I think Demetrius Knight 443 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 4: is a guy that you bring back in year two 444 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 4: with the idea that he's a starter. I do think 445 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 4: you have to go out into free agency and I think, 446 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 4: along with Ginostone at safety, finding a free agent difference 447 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 4: maker that steps in, a guy who has proven he 448 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 4: can play on Sundays, a guy who can make plays 449 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 4: and can elevated defense immediately has to be a priority 450 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 4: for this team. I don't think it can be draft 451 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 4: another guy and see if you can put another rookie 452 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 4: linebacker next to Demetrius Knight and see if he can 453 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 4: be a playmaker. I think you have to go out 454 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 4: in free agency this offseason with the idea in mind 455 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 4: that Okay, look, the defense is great, the offensive continuity 456 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 4: is going to be fine. Maybe we can draft the safety, 457 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,959 Speaker 4: but I think you have to circle linebacker as a 458 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 4: free agent of someone who's proven it that they can 459 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,479 Speaker 4: play at this level and be a difference maker. It's 460 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 4: a slot next to Demetrius Night. I think that would 461 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 4: solve a lot of problems for the Bengals in their 462 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 4: front seven if they just put someone there who is capable, 463 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 4: who is confident, who is confident that he can go 464 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 4: out there and be that kind of a player. I 465 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 4: don't think that's the draft pick. I think that's one 466 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 4: that has to be addressed with a ready made starter 467 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 4: and free agency. 468 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 3: That is Joe Danoman Fox nineteen. I know you guys 469 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 3: had the last show at the Levey last night with 470 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 3: Andre Yoshi Vash. What's coming up next at Fox nineteen 471 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 3: and when do you leave for Memphis? 472 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 2: Joe tomorrow? 473 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 5: No, get him. 474 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 2: I don't know if I could just catch a ride 475 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 2: with you or what the plan was the next big thing? 476 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 4: You guys believe this already. We're having meetings next week 477 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 4: talking about Ring Train. 478 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 2: Oh boy, there we go. 479 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 4: Next big event. Maybe we'll run it back. Yeah, maybe 480 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 4: we'll get JJ bled live on the phone next year 481 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 4: or this coming spring like we did with the Reds 482 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 4: last year and Brent Shooter jumping on live on since 483 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 4: he three to sixty. What a day that was. What 484 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 4: a time to be alive. Yeah, that's the next big event. 485 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 4: But until then, gentlemen, Happy New Year. Are you guys 486 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 4: getting Are you getting crunk on New Year's Eve? 487 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 3: I got a seven am flight tonight. I'm not getting crunk. 488 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 3: We'll celebrate New Years with the kids at like nine o'clock. 489 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:39,479 Speaker 5: I don't do such things. 490 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 2: I'm worried. 491 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 3: I hope for for your guy's sake, that that Ohio 492 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 3: State takes care of business and you get to ring 493 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 3: in the new year a little bit better than the 494 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 3: last time the Buckey's played on New Year's Eve. 495 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that happened right at midnight. 496 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 3: Just missed it, Just missed it. 497 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 4: Ag. I wish the best for you and your Buckeyes 498 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 4: on New Year's d oh. 499 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 3: Daniman, thanks so much, man, have a great new year. 500 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 5: I'm never gonna say yeat again. 501 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 4: I got y eated on Sunday from the stands, and I'll 502 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 4: yeak you guys today. Happy New Year. 503 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go. 504 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 3: Joe Daniman of Fox nineteen, your talkbacks come up next. 505 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 5: I'm working the game Sunday. We're gonna be in the 506 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 5: press box. If I run into Joe, I might have 507 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 5: to break press box etiquette and yeat relatively loudly at Joe, 508 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 5: just to see what he would do there. 509 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 4: It is. 510 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 3: I bet there'd be some others talkbacks next. ESPN fifteen thirty, 511 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports station