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Speaker 1: Steeler lifers like Whatt and Hayward, those weren't all that glorious.

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Speaker 1: That hold out by cam the big extension for what

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Speaker 1: acquiring Ramsey and Slay that's all a joke. Now, zero

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Speaker 1: sacks and zero takeaways last night, and what in particular

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Speaker 2: TJ. Watt is a fraud. Garrett had five sacks yesterday?

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Speaker 2: What had zero? Garrett has ten on the year? What

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Speaker 1: The Steelers made all these changes in the offseason, and

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Speaker 1: it feels like the same team going to the same place,

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Speaker 1: namely Pollukaville. And that's because of Tomlin. The Steelers will

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Speaker 1: be stale until Tomlin goes. The Steelers will fail until

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Speaker 1: Tomlin goes. He might be the most overrated coach in

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Speaker 1: sports history. Let's talk now with Tommy Radio. Tom it

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Speaker 1: was embarrassing, and it starts with that historic defense. Four

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty four yards allowed, bad tackling, and the

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Speaker 1: big names all suck.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's laughably bad, and there is just no way

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Speaker 3: it gets better because the main cause of the defense

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Speaker 3: sucking is it's too old. How do you fix that

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Speaker 3: as a season wears on, where you've already had your

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Speaker 3: bye week, Like these old timers have to play every

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Speaker 3: single week now until the end of the year, so

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Speaker 3: there's no bouncing back from this, Like this is what

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Speaker 3: you have to live with. Maybe there will be better

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Speaker 3: performances than what you saw out of Green Bay, maybe

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Speaker 3: you'll get a turnover, maybe you'll actually get a sack

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Speaker 3: in future games. But it's a bad defense that your

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Speaker 3: offense is gonna have to unbelievably carry. And who thought

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Speaker 1: Well, you're not going to carry that bad defense with

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Speaker 1: your offense settling for field goals. Absolutely, that is epidemic,

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Speaker 1: as it always has been. A lot's being made of

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Speaker 1: the tight end shredding the Steelers Craft, who had seven

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Speaker 1: catches and two touchdowns. But the Steelers can't tackle anybody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think.

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Speaker 3: Everybody treads the Steelers defense. I mean, how much yards

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Speaker 3: after catch did Jamar Chase have in the Cincinnati game.

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Speaker 3: I mean he was just having DB's bounce right off

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Speaker 3: of him. And Craft's a beast. But you're gonna face

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Speaker 3: a beast this week. And Tyler Warren, like a lot

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Speaker 3: of teams have dudes at the tight end position that

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Speaker 3: lot of tackles. So you combine that with you being

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Speaker 3: maybe the worst tackling team in football. That's probably fair

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Speaker 3: to say, especially after what you just saw last night

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's not going to go well at all. The

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Speaker 1: amount of broken tackles was just absurd. And it's all

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Speaker 1: the Steelers fucking football one oh one top. It's they're

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Speaker 1: tackling too high. They're trying to overpower the guy, trying

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Speaker 2: What is the root problem with that defense? Is it

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Speaker 1: The big names are turning to dust before our very eyes,

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Speaker 1: and especially TJ. Watt, who just deserves to be excoriated

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Speaker 1: He just isn't a factor as often as not more

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Speaker 3: Yeah, another game where he was just invisible against Green Bay.

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Speaker 3: It's they're old. That's the problem. The main problem is

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Speaker 3: that they're just too old. And that's why it's, like

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Speaker 3: I said, there's no fixing it. You just don't magically

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Speaker 3: get younger all of a sudden, So it's too old.

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Speaker 3: That's their biggest problem. Coaching is a problem too. I

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Speaker 3: mean no doubt, they're very vanilla.

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 3: They were blitzing like crazy for the first like five

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Speaker 2: Why has that dried up?

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Speaker 1: Why are they just going if they got scared, they're

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Speaker 1: Except it doesn't take a thousand cuts because they're missing tackles.

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Speaker 2: And he did right whether they blitzed him or not.

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Speaker 1: Now I feel like Aaron Rodgers did okay, But the

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Speaker 1: offense was one for ten on third down. Nobody's a

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Speaker 1: among my biggest disappointments of this season. He only makes

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Speaker 3: The dropping balls part, I get you. I don't know

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Speaker 2: If he doesn't fault or not. If he can't make

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Speaker 3: Him rather, But I think it might come down to

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Speaker 3: get him the ball, he makes plays. The only one

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Speaker 3: on that offense that can really make plays, aside from

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Speaker 2: Then they just kind of got away from that. But

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Speaker 3: I know they started losing, but Mark, it wasn't getting

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Speaker 1: The leading they were leading by what four points or

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean, I don't know why there was

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Speaker 3: just this abandonment of the run. Rogers was okay, it

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Speaker 1: He got rattled when the Packers got ahead. Like he said,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't a revenge game, but it clearly you know,

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Speaker 1: got it? His is melon a little bit, not least

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Speaker 1: when Jordan loved badly up plays, Yes, badly up play.

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Speaker 3: You know what else I think got in his head

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Speaker 3: a little bit hearing a go Pack go chant from

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Speaker 2: Well, the fans should be ashamed of them, no doubts.

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Speaker 1: I mean, these scumbag Pittsburgh Steeler fans, these supposed hard course.

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Speaker 1: How many of them sold their tickets to get some

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, playing it simple, You're just not a

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Speaker 1: Let's be honest, Tom, The team is phony, the town

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Speaker 1: is phony, the fans are phony. Everything about Pittsburgh football

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Speaker 1: is phony. And by the way, the field was awful.

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Speaker 1: You know, played Saturday and there was so much sand

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Speaker 2: Looked like a remake of Dune. I know, I started

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Speaker 1: And that is done to Art Rooney being too cheap

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Speaker 2: Is going to make that field be better than that.

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Speaker 3: It is pure laziness from the field crew. That's what

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Speaker 3: pit game before, so you have to do that. No,

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Speaker 3: and put on the Steelers' logo. You know there's stripes

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Speaker 3: in the end zone. People always bitch about that. Why

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Speaker 2: They can, they just don't want to. I hated all

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Speaker 2: the first half field goals.

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Speaker 1: You could have put the game away in the first

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Speaker 1: half with touchdowns and settling for three just comes too

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Speaker 3: Too easy, and I I'm upset that it's coming as

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Speaker 2: Now, maybe that won't last, but it appears that there

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Speaker 2: is sid The only way.

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Speaker 1: That anybody's gonna put the word out that what's happening

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Speaker 2: And I'm not sure he'll be willing to talk about

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Speaker 2: the defense. No, but he did in the postgame mentioned

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Speaker 2: when DK dropped that one ball. What did he say?

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Speaker 2: It looked like he said, catch.

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Speaker 3: The effing ball, probably something like that. I did notice

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Speaker 3: in his postgame though, Rodgers did work in how you're

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Speaker 1: Tomlin said that too, But that's on Tomlin, right. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'm just wondering maybe Rogers starting planning a little bit

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Speaker 1: I had a great appearance last night. It celebrates as

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Speaker 1: gonna say it now. You know what's really made Rogers

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Speaker 1: McAfee every week. That was a minefield for him when

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Speaker 1: he'd go on, Yeah, the way things are going for

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Speaker 3: No doubt, but it is like strictly football for him,

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Speaker 3: which is good as far as his persona is concerned.

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Speaker 1: And still I still wish he'd say something not good

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Speaker 1: for us, And in that vein, well, I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: it's good for the team either, And that ties into

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Speaker 1: I think the leadership is obviously horrific. You got Cam

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Speaker 1: who's responsibility is that? That's a great leader. And the

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Speaker 1: Steelers get rattled easy. Look at the dumb penalties and

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Speaker 1: everybody gets the booboo face.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, things snowball downhill just way too easily for the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: And I hate hearing leaders talk about how there's not

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Speaker 3: yourself when two Remember a couple of weeks ago, was like,

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Speaker 3: there's not people showing up for team meetings, and they're

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Speaker 3: going to like, dude, you're the quarterback. That's on you

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Speaker 3: and like Cam and Away tells on himself here, Oh

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Speaker 3: you know, we just don't have enough. Fight Okay, get them,

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Speaker 3: get their ass moving, get them light a fire under them,

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Speaker 3: have them fight what most.

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Speaker 1: Needs to be fixed, tom And can they fix it?

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Speaker 1: If you had to pick one thing, because I see

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Speaker 1: four and five in their very near future, and then

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Speaker 1: they're in trouble. If they lose the next two, they

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Speaker 1: might miss the playoffs. I said before the Cincinnati game,

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Speaker 1: they have a tough time not winning the AFC North.

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Speaker 1: They appeared determined to give losing the AFC North their

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Speaker 3: The thing that most needs to me is the pass defense.

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Speaker 2: Penguin's host Saint Louis.

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Speaker 1: Tonight, we got the Hockey Night Show tonight from five

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Speaker 1: thirty till six. Lots of news with the Penguins Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame ceremony before the game on Saturday was terrific.

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Speaker 1: It was absolutely first class. Got lost that night to Columbus.

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Speaker 2: I'm going.

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Speaker 1: At Philadelphia at six pm tomorrow. You can watch that

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Speaker 1: with Tommy Radio. Tom I'm glad to steal a point

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Speaker 2: You just gotta do better.

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Speaker 3: There, Oh no doubt he was awful in the shootout.

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Speaker 2: It's busy with the stick and nobody he doesn't know.

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Speaker 3: Do you think they even practice it that much anymore?

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Speaker 1: Tom Crosby had scored on five consecutive shots coming into

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Speaker 3: You know, they're implementing this load management when it comes

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Speaker 3: of back to back scratches for Bernick. I think that's

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Speaker 2: You know what.

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Speaker 1: You know what happened there when Caleb Jones got hurt.

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Speaker 2: You can't do that.

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Speaker 3: You can't do that. Would you call Pickering up and

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Speaker 2: So you send call Ryan Graves up and then ko.

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Speaker 1: If he doesn't play tonight, then I'm gonna wonder about

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Speaker 2: Saturday wasn't a.

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Speaker 3: the more youth you implement in and the more you know,

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Speaker 2: The Hall of Fame thing was great. I can't wait

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Speaker 1: The displays like the Mike Lang thing, the plaques, and

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Speaker 6: Welcome Down the Biggest The Mark Madden Tree Game Show

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Speaker 6: with Mark Madden and Tom Upferman on one five nine.

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Speaker 1: Today is what they call a sports equedox, the thirty

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Speaker 1: second time it's ever happened where the NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL,

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Speaker 1: and Major League Soccer all have games, not not exhibition games,

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Speaker 1: but all games that are meaningful on the same day. Tom,

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Speaker 1: I I again, I it's a great opportunity to not

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Speaker 1: watch all this. I mean, I think it's kind of cool.

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Speaker 1: Did you have all those options? And part of me,

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Speaker 1: if if I wasn't going to the Penguins game tonight

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Speaker 1: against the Blues at PPG, I would probably sit in

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Speaker 1: front of TV and flip to a couple of minutes

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Speaker 1: of every sport so.

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Speaker 2: I could just say I did.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna try to do that, although I

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Speaker 3: don't know. Is the MLS game on ESPN. That would

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Speaker 3: be the key. If I can have an easily accessible

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Speaker 3: it might be streaming. The Monday night game would be

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Speaker 3: on the isstuam Actually, now that I'm thinking about it,

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Speaker 3: but it's a charm to it, right, I appreciate the

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Speaker 3: charm to it.

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Speaker 2: Most of the MLS games are on streaming. I think

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Speaker 2: someone on Fox.

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Speaker 1: I think they made a mistake going almost not not exclusively,

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Speaker 1: but pretty close in terms of streaming.

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Speaker 2: But but I get it because that's where the money was.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess, but a sport like that, you kind

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Speaker 3: of need to glom onto the traditional cables.

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Speaker 2: I think the exposure. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Like and especially like with with Messi in the league,

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Speaker 1: and you know he's signed an extension, He's going to

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Speaker 1: play until he drops.

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Speaker 3: Like an NFL goes to streaming and it drives traffic

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Speaker 3: to the streaming site, and MLS doesn't necessarily do that.

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Speaker 2: You know what's great about Messi?

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Speaker 1: Messi won the Golden Boot, you know, led the league

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Speaker 1: in goals, and he's there's he plays only about eighty

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Speaker 1: percent of the games.

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Speaker 2: He just like there. I haven't confirmed this. There's some

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Speaker 2: cities he just doesn't want to go to and he

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Speaker 2: doesn't have to go to them. I mean, no, he's messy.

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Speaker 2: He can he can do what he wants.

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Speaker 3: Is he gonna play in the World Cup. I think

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Speaker 3: he's announcing this week. I saw like a tease for

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Speaker 3: that day of the Serio game.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to be there when Argentina cuts? Because

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Speaker 2: I do. I just don't believe Argentina. It's the same

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Speaker 2: with Portugal and Ronaldo.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but Ernando still scores for Portugal from time to

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Speaker 3: time and they bring him off the bench.

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Speaker 2: Now didn't they kind of do that with him? He

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Speaker 2: is a liability in the other two thirds of the fead. Okay,

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Speaker 2: no question.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't track back, not that he ever was. He

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Speaker 1: used to be such a great athlete, his legs would

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Speaker 1: just automatically take him there. Well, he's still a great athlete,

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Speaker 1: just old.

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Speaker 3: If he wants to play Messi, you cannot cut him

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Speaker 3: after you just won.

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Speaker 1: The most specially because the way he plays, like Ronaldo,

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Speaker 1: is so dynamic that when he slows down it does

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Speaker 1: hurt his effectiveness. But Messi, like I've seen him play

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Speaker 1: for Miami. I went to that game between Miami and

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Speaker 1: Columbus and Cleveland. He just pings passes all over the

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Speaker 1: place like bing ping ping, like you know, thirty forty

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Speaker 1: yards right on a guy's foot.

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Speaker 3: You think he's still be very effective in Europe, just

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Speaker 3: maybe a little step slower, not the dominant Messi.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a better chance he'll be effective in

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Speaker 1: the World Cup because not every opponent's great, true, and

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Speaker 1: he can he can pick a spots when he plays,

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Speaker 1: when he comes out and stuff like that. Now, Tom,

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Speaker 1: before we get back to the Steeler crucifixion, Pitt killed

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Speaker 1: NC State, Pitt six and two and four and one

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Speaker 1: the ACC. But of course is a team you support.

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Speaker 1: But but how serious are you taking where they're at

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Speaker 1: because it's only the ACC. If Pitt did lose to

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Speaker 1: West Virginia. But Pitt could be eight, no, maybe even

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Speaker 1: should be. And if they were, they'd be ranked if

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Speaker 1: they were, if they were seven and one, if they

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Speaker 1: hadn't lost to West Virginia, they'd be right.

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Speaker 3: They'd be ranked right now if they didn't lose to

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Speaker 3: West Virginia because Louisville's a good team and ranked themselves.

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Speaker 3: Uh God, that stings too, just seeing that loss against

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Speaker 3: West Virginia because they bad. I mean they really more

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Speaker 3: so maybe now than when it happened, because of what

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Speaker 3: it's cost Pit right exactly. I'm excited for Pitt. I'm

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Speaker 3: not getting too far ahead of myself. The ACC is

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Speaker 3: so bad. But if you win the ACC, you get

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Speaker 3: into the playoffs, so I mean, you have a path there.

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Speaker 3: They're not gonna do that though. To win the ACC.

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Speaker 3: I mean they have they have a championship game, Craigs.

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Speaker 3: You gotta finish top two it regularly, yeah, and they're

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Speaker 3: just not gonna do their schedules brutal after this game

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Speaker 3: at Stanford this week. But my goal is Marcus to

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Speaker 3: beat Stanford this week. B seven and two when Notre

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Speaker 3: Dame comes to town. That's a big matchup. Some buzz

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Speaker 3: both team seven and two. It'll be on national TV.

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Speaker 3: That's what you're shooting for the season. You know, it's

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Speaker 3: odd people are saying that if they had gone to

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Speaker 3: what's in Kinschell? Yeah, the bomber, the bomber, right, if

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Speaker 3: the bomber had played all the games, that they'd be

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Speaker 3: you know, undefeated or one loss. But if the bomber,

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Speaker 3: if if the bomber had played all the games, excuse me,

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Speaker 3: I got I screwed this all up.

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Speaker 1: It was a good show till now too. No people

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Speaker 1: are saying they should be you know, one loss, zero losses.

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Speaker 1: But if they were one loss, zero losses, Holstein would

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Speaker 1: still be the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Like they needed Holstein.

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Speaker 1: They needed Holstein to lose the West Virginia to get

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Speaker 1: Heinschel in there, and I think Heinschel has been to

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Speaker 1: their benefit.

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Speaker 2: Going in the West Virginia thing started.

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Speaker 3: I think the idea of maybe turning to Hinchel and

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Speaker 3: then blowing the Louisville game and him throwing interceptions to

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Speaker 3: blow the Louisville game wasn't necessary. If he doesn't blow

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Speaker 3: the Louisville game, he starts the next week against Boston College.

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Speaker 3: Boston College stinks. He probably beats Boston College, so you're right, Like,

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Speaker 3: I don't think this butterfly effect exists. Like if Holsting

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Speaker 3: didn't crap the bed, you'd never get to Highscholl because

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Speaker 3: that was a money decision. I think that's very clear.

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Speaker 3: They went to Holstein because he was one point five

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Speaker 3: million dollar man. Heische was apparently blowing him out during training,

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Speaker 3: and it works. I absolutely, you know.

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Speaker 1: I Liverpool lost again un less said the better, but

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Speaker 1: as always I am resolute in my faith. Uh you know,

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Speaker 1: I feel funny not talking about the Steelers because we

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Speaker 1: did the Penguins last segment. Now we've done done Pitt

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Speaker 1: and talked about the Sports Equinox. But but I mean

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Speaker 1: the Steelers are done. I mean, but no, they're not

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Speaker 1: because they that division, so batter keeping them alive. I

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Speaker 1: don't feel like they have any potential to do anything significant.

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Speaker 2: Can I make a prediction? Am I allowed to make predictions?

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Speaker 2: Of course? December seventh, when the Steelers go to Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: It'll be a day that will live an infamy.

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Speaker 4: Get it?

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Speaker 3: And I bet both teams are six and six at

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Speaker 3: that point. I bet both teams are six and six.

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Speaker 3: That would mean the Ravens lose one game between now

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Speaker 3: and then, and that would mean the Steelers win just

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Speaker 3: two between now and then.

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Speaker 2: That'd be great, though.

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Speaker 3: I think it will actually be great. I actually think

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Speaker 3: the Ravens have a chance to be seven and five

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Speaker 3: and the Steelers six and six at that meeting.

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Speaker 2: How many people do you think just now got the

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Speaker 2: day that will live in infamy? Reference?

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Speaker 5: Not many?

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Speaker 2: Did you get it? I did?

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Speaker 3: After you just explained it, I came back around and

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Speaker 3: remember December seventh, Yes, Pearl Harbor Day, Yes.

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Speaker 1: A day that will live in infamy. You know I

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Speaker 1: have I have a my one of my closest friends

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Speaker 1: is Japanese American. Every day for the last thirty someone years,

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Speaker 1: I've called him on Pearl Harbor Day and said, man,

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Speaker 1: you guys are win with the chance. Better better follow up,

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Speaker 1: you know, and he just hangs up. Do you think

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Speaker 1: the Steelers can bounce back and beat Indy? No?

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Speaker 3: I don't think they have any shot against Indy. This

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Speaker 3: is the best offense. And by the way, that guy's

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Speaker 3: probably listening now, do you see them bouncing back against

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Speaker 3: the best offensive football?

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Speaker 2: You know, you know what's funny is we all went

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Speaker 2: to the the old the old saw that.

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Speaker 1: Well, this Green Bay game after they lost the cincinn

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Speaker 1: it's the kind of game they bounced back and win. Well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know what happens too with Steeler fans,

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Speaker 1: especially the real stooges, the true believers. They could lose

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Speaker 1: seven games in row and they'll keep using that bounce

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Speaker 1: backing and then when they win, they'll say see, see see.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're you're right about that. And I'm sure some

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Speaker 3: of that will pop up this week. I'm just done

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Speaker 3: trying to resist the Colts being a legit Super Bowl contender.

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Speaker 3: They're one of the best teams in football. They murder

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Speaker 3: bad teams and they played good against them good teams.

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Speaker 1: They're certainly a legit Super Bowl contender in the in

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Speaker 1: the AFC, which which has like maybe a.

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Speaker 3: Couple good teams. They played the Chiefs in a couple

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Speaker 3: of weeks. I can't wait for that. Chiefs and Colts

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Speaker 3: is going to be a AFC teams.

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Speaker 1: Do you take seriously besides, uh, Buffalo, the Colts and

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, and I kind of knack on the Chiefs bandwise.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Chiefs, they're probably gonna win the same Yet

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Speaker 2: you really think so? Yeah, I'm still sticking with them

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Speaker 2: not making the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: I think tonight they might murder Washington and just start

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Speaker 3: really fine tuning in things. Denver's good in that division.

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Speaker 2: Happened to Washington? I mean, I know Jane Danielson has

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Speaker 2: been is that the summon substance.

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Speaker 3: He's not playing super great when healthy, but he's been

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Speaker 3: banged up all year.

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Speaker 2: Nice hurt big.

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Speaker 1: I think, to quote slapshot, they got too much too

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Speaker 1: soon last year and they were almost bond to recede

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Speaker 1: a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I think he actually pointed that out in the off season,

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Speaker 3: because they're always right about everything.

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Speaker 2: Well right, but no, but that wasn't up to me.

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Speaker 2: That happens in every it happens a lot.

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Speaker 1: And he used the peak a bit early, generally received

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Speaker 1: a little bit before they get to their true peak,

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Speaker 1: because I think Washington, I think Jane Daniels could win

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Speaker 1: a super Bowl sooner or later.

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Speaker 3: When Lamar comes back next week and they start to

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Speaker 3: get some mojo going. I mean, the defense played better

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Speaker 3: against the decent Chicago offense. I know, Chicago looked terrible,

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Speaker 3: but that offense was playing well and they have Ben Johnson,

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Speaker 3: so the defense kind of bounced back for Baltimore, they

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Speaker 3: needed to win that game. I might take Baltimore seriously

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Speaker 3: in a few weeks here.

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Speaker 2: I'm just disgusted by the Steelers. I watched that game

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Speaker 2: last night.

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Speaker 1: I was just disgusted, and I wasn't surprised, but like

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Speaker 1: just just I mean, they looked like they quit in

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter once uh, green Bay got ahead, they

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Speaker 1: just put their heads down. Yeah, quits maybe too strong

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Speaker 1: a word, but it looks like they knew the inevitable

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Speaker 1: was losing. It started to feel like a funeral. Like

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Speaker 1: that was the vibe around the game. What expect when

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Speaker 1: the subag fans give their tickets to Green Bay people

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Speaker 1: for some meager profits so they can pay off the

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Speaker 1: mortgage on their shanties.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what what?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 2: Just awful? Awful fans.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Steeler fans have always overrated themselves, and for

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Speaker 1: that reason, I'm glad last night when don like it

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Speaker 1: did with the.

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Speaker 3: Packers fans taking over. Yeah, you know, Cincinnati stunk before

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Speaker 3: that Thursday night game. You didn't see any Steelers black

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Speaker 3: or gold in that stadium. It was all Bengal white

677
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Speaker 3: because since the fans weren't gonna sell to Steeler fans, they're.

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Speaker 2: Better than that.

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Speaker 1: What did you make of the throwback unis they're disgusting.

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Speaker 1: I thought they looked like a flag football team from Zillianople.

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Speaker 1: I kind of like the helmets, like I kind of

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Speaker 1: like the Matt yellow helmet. I think that could be

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Speaker 1: a nice change up. How about when Roman Wilson cut

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Speaker 1: the long ball early, I know, and he ended up

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Speaker 1: with what four catches.

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Speaker 2: Hit a touchdown?

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Speaker 3: He cut the garbage time I hope they keep using them.

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Speaker 3: They have to hit forty six percent of the snaps too,

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Speaker 3: so that's encouraging.

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Speaker 1: I love the garbage time touchdown because like almost wasn't

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Speaker 1: a touchdown, but the rest made the right call.

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Speaker 3: No, it wasn't touched on you right, And you know

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Speaker 3: I call a garbage touchdown, but it wasn't exactly garbage time.

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Speaker 2: Because if they get the two, then there Johnny just

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Speaker 2: drops the ball. What the hell's that about?

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Speaker 1: Well, he's another one. I cited DK Metcalf earlier, is

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Speaker 1: a great disappointment among new guys. I think John Smith's

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Speaker 1: been a great disappointment.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: You might say it's cause he hasn't been utilized as

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Speaker 1: much as I expected, but still that drop DK two.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they just aren't as good as they should be,

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Speaker 1: even if their opportunities have been somewhat limited.

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Speaker 3: I think you could probably say John Who's been the

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Speaker 3: biggest disappointment, unless you count like a Thornhill and a

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Speaker 3: Sleigh as newcomers too, which you'd have to in.

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Speaker 1: This you know, you could make the argument Jalen Ramsey's

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Speaker 1: been a big disappointment, but I think that was due

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Speaker 1: to overestimating him and them giving him too much to

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Speaker 1: do at age. What is he thirty one? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean he's you know what he is now and I've

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Speaker 1: said this repeatedly. He's just a slot corner. He's probably

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Speaker 1: a pretty good slot corner, but that's all he is.

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Speaker 1: He's not a guy who can go out and blanket

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Speaker 1: the other team's top receiver as we thought he could,

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Speaker 1: and Jamar Chase decisively proved he can't anymore.

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Speaker 3: Rat Ramsey's still okay. He's had some splash moments this year,

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Speaker 3: Thornhill and Slay Suck. I mean those two are cooked completely.

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Speaker 3: I mean liabilities on the field, especially Thornhill.

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Speaker 1: Well as I as I said, I'm gonna talk more

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Speaker 1: about later. I think they made a mistake. And I

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Speaker 1: praised the trade when it was made, but I think

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Speaker 1: trading Minka for John Whu and Ramsey has turned out

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Speaker 1: to be a mistake because John, who's not in the

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Speaker 1: role i'd hoped for. Ramsey is nothing more than a

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Speaker 1: slot corner. And even though Minka hadn't been a standout

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Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh for what the last couple of years, they

728
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Speaker 1: are crippled at safety. I like Deshaun Elliott, who's now hurt.

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Speaker 1: But if DeShawn Elliott's your best safety, you are in

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Speaker 1: trouble at safety.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 3: For the traffic Today, I've got three coaching decisions that

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Speaker 3: I just think are insane and I completely disagree with

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Speaker 3: number three. They could have been running the ball more,

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Speaker 3: especially at the beginning of the second half. What was

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Speaker 3: it three carries in the second half, they were running

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Speaker 3: the ball well. They both were a game. Will had

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Speaker 3: a good game.

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Speaker 2: They would no.

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Speaker 3: It just makes no sense. And it was a great

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Speaker 3: rush defense that they were doing a good job against.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why they didn't build off of it.

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Speaker 3: I think that was a stupid decision. Number two are

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Speaker 3: the field goal layups. There was a fourth and three

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Speaker 3: at the Green Bay thirty two, they decided to kick

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Speaker 3: a field goal. There was a fourth and four at

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Speaker 3: the Green Bay twenty four. They decided to kick a

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Speaker 3: field goal. Used Aaron Rodgers get four yards, keep the

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Speaker 3: drive alive.

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Speaker 1: I agree, I don't think you win in the NFL

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Speaker 1: three points at a time. Tomlin even said that after

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Speaker 1: the game. That was the first thing he addressed. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's on you, Tomlin.

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Speaker 3: He chose not to go for it on that fourth

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Speaker 3: and four, on that fourth and three. But the number

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Speaker 3: one decision that is just so baffling is her BIG's

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Speaker 3: playing time. Again, they had like twenty four snaps high

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Speaker 3: Smith and Watt severely outsnapped him. High Smith has done

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Speaker 3: nothing since returning Herbig or Watt hasn't really done anything.

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Speaker 1: Smith's not there to stop the run. I disagree just

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Speaker 1: like you do. But that's what they're thinking. Okay, but

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Speaker 1: it didn't work against green Bay. They didn't stop the run.

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Speaker 3: And sure they were fine against Josh Jacobs, but the

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00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 3: backup Wilson averaged like five point two yards of carry.

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Speaker 3: He all of a sudden became an effective rushing threat

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Speaker 3: for the Green Bay Packers in this game. I know

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Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin's gonna get asked tomorrow at his press conference

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Speaker 3: about Nick Herbig's playing time, and he's gonna lean on

813
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 3: game plan was specifically designed to stop Josh Jacobs and

814
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Speaker 3: Herbig can't stop the run, and that's just a crutch now,

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Speaker 3: that's just a default for him.

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Speaker 2: Herbig needs to play stopping the run.

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Speaker 1: Like like I wrote my Trip column, the Steelers have

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Speaker 1: just been a NonStop parade of bad decisions, both on

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Speaker 1: and off the field for a number of years now.

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Speaker 1: And among those bad decisions is their decision to give Friar,

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Speaker 1: Moot and high Smith big money over the long term.

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Speaker 2: There just was no need to do that.

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Speaker 1: Those two were eminently replaceable and uh, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure there'd be any worse off now with their with

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Speaker 1: their rush ends being what her Big and Jack sawyer.

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Speaker 2: They would not be anywhere off now.

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Speaker 3: No, they would actually be better off because they wouldn't

828
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Speaker 3: be spending so much money on the defense.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you could spend it somewhere else, Yes, exactly, So

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Speaker 1: maybe they'd have a number two receiver they're working at

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Speaker 1: that well, I would say Mark has Valdez scant way

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Speaker 1: and that'll solve everything.

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Speaker 2: Getting him.

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Speaker 1: I always like when we act that a guy who's

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Speaker 1: available to sign off the street yeah in October is

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Speaker 1: somehow going to be the answer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, it's so laughable.

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Speaker 3: The her Big thing, though, you've brought it up, and

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Speaker 3: you could be right about this that you know, maybe

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Speaker 3: if you do increase his workload, it's not going to

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00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 3: be as an effective her Big. Okay, that's the Devil's

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Speaker 3: advocate angle to what I'm saying. We go find out exactly,

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Speaker 3: like what's the point of just keeping him in that

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Speaker 3: role if he can, if he can't be in an

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Speaker 3: expanded role, then you'll find that out early.

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Speaker 2: But you gotta try. You have to try something. Your

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Speaker 2: past rush has been invisible for two weeks.

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Speaker 1: We got some great sound later, Tom the usual Tomlin

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Speaker 1: and Steeler stooge's like Rex Ryan and Steven A.

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Speaker 2: Smith.

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Speaker 1: We got sign of them burying the defense. I mean,

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Speaker 1: just being cruel and certainly not to be.

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Speaker 3: Kind, but it's warranted. I mean, this is one of

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Speaker 3: the voice.

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Speaker 2: It would have been warned weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: It's the one of the worst defenses in football. There's

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Speaker 3: no way around it, especially now that the turnovers has

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00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 3: dried up, because that was something that they were doing

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Speaker 3: decently well. Do you think that the citizens will turn

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Speaker 3: on like Watt Hayward. No, I think they're gonna turn

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Speaker 3: on Tara Austin. They already have started to date.

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Speaker 1: But that's a bunch of nonsense because he's not even

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Speaker 1: really the coordinate, but he's this one's really the coordinator.

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Speaker 2: He's the scapegoat that's coming. You can see that they'll

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Speaker 2: make some some.

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Speaker 1: Uh some just move to play Kate like Tom went

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Speaker 1: announced he's gonna handle the defense.

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Speaker 2: Yes, when he's been handling the defense all along. D Yes,

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 3: A good I'm taking over play calling move by a

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Speaker 3: head coach that always reeks of desperation.

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Speaker 1: Tomlin is absolutely incompetent, and he's probably never been a

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Speaker 1: good coach, and he's probably the most overrated coach of

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Speaker 1: all time. And that was a great tweet somebody sent

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Speaker 1: to me last night, you know, with the at and

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Speaker 1: I just don't see.

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Speaker 2: Why people buy into him.

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Speaker 1: And I'm hoping by the end of the year that

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Speaker 1: even like the usual suspects, the stooges with the media,

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Speaker 1: and it's happening a little although like stephen A and

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Speaker 1: Rex Whyen, they're not blaming Tomlin.

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Speaker 2: They're saying that defense.

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Speaker 3: You know how this goes fast forward to August next year,

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Speaker 3: it'll be the same song and dance with those guys.

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Speaker 1: Well, part of the problem is he's never gonna get fired, no,

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Speaker 1: and for that reason, nobody calls him to be fired.

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Speaker 3: But those people go on those shows with just lazy.

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Speaker 3: I gotta get through this segment. Steelers are up on

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Speaker 3: the block. Okay, Tomlin's gonna have him well coached.

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Speaker 4: That's what they do.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna get a better coach than Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 1: That's what people always say, exactly. Shane Steichen is a

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Speaker 1: much better coach toan Mike Tomlin because he's actually coaching

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Speaker 1: in the year twenty twenty five. To tom Win is

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Speaker 1: just so behold to the old way that worked once.

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Speaker 1: And to Tomlin never was a good coach. That's gonna

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Speaker 1: be my end of the season. Call him that he

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Speaker 1: never wasn't good coach and literaria for he won with

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Speaker 1: Coward's team, with Coward's leaders and Coward's culture.

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Speaker 2: And the further we get away from that, the more

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Speaker 2: foolish she looks.

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Speaker 3: You know, the Colts game too, Stichen just dominates Tomlin

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Speaker 3: with bad Colts teams. Now he's got the best team

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Speaker 3: in football right now, what's he gonna do with that?

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Speaker 2: That could be like a thirty point win for Indy

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Speaker 2: at after Sure.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you now, not next segment, but the

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Speaker 1: segment after. If you call with angst, I'll.

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Speaker 2: Get it on. I'll get it right on because I

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Speaker 2: want to hear you suffer. That's like, oh at Ace

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Speaker 2: Frehley reference inadvertently. I hope you suffer. What's that rip

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Speaker 2: it out? One oh five ninety