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Speaker 1: This is the Mark Madden Show. Couldn't Get No Silver,

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Speaker 1: Couldn't Get No Gold. You can follow me on Twitter

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Speaker 1: at Mark Madden X. Let's talk now to Tommy Radio.

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Speaker 1: Tom Should we be talking about the Steelers? Who about

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Speaker 1: the Penguins, because my god, eight two and two, Like

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Speaker 1: I said, most points in the league.

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Speaker 2: I'd much rather talk about the Penguins because they're actually exciting,

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Speaker 2: and I think it's time we have to adjust the

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Speaker 2: goals to the season. You wrote about that in the trip,

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Speaker 2: like they forced you to. Now think about making the

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Speaker 2: playoffs And dare I say, and dare you right win

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Speaker 2: a playoff game for the first.

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Speaker 3: Time or series?

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Speaker 1: Well series, Yeah, for the first time since twenty twenty eighteen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I still would not bet on it nobody.

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Speaker 1: But in terms of making the postseason, they're building themselves

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Speaker 1: a cushion.

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Speaker 3: I looked it up, Tom.

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Speaker 1: Teams in the playoffs as of Thanksgiving make it seventy

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Speaker 1: seven point five percent of the time.

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Speaker 2: Now, what about the team that is like at the

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Speaker 2: top of the entire freaking league at Thanksgiving. I'd have

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Speaker 2: to assume that's almost one hundred percent chance that you're

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Speaker 2: gonna make it. Not to say that the Penguins a

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Speaker 2: month from now are still gonna be a top of

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Speaker 2: the league.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to think the Penguins goaltender could blow it.

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Speaker 1: Uh No, I mean, well, now it's too late to

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Speaker 1: get McKenna. It's literally too late to finish low enough

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Speaker 1: to get McKenna twelve games in to get enough balls

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Speaker 1: in the lottery. You know, I don't buy into the goaltending.

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Speaker 1: And it's playing fine except for shootouts. I mean, Jari

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Speaker 1: did a good job. Was that I just I just

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Speaker 2: Okay, So do they get that shot of life then

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Speaker 2: in February when Marashov comes up because he is destroying

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, But what would have to happen is that

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Speaker 1: that somebody gets hurt. They're not going to be in

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Speaker 1: a playoffs, but with their current goaltending and morrishoff on

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Speaker 1: what I would suggest is that if they're, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: in second place in the division on February first, that

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Speaker 1: someone pushes Jari down a flight of steps.

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Speaker 3: But what if you know they've built a cushion right now,

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Speaker 3: what if you just kidding but not really.

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Speaker 2: What if you start to see get a sense that

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Speaker 2: they're fading a bit as far as a team and

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Speaker 2: as far as a goalie position is concerned, and you're

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Speaker 2: still in that playoff spot, but it is getting a

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Speaker 2: little bit tenuous, then maybe you have the opportunity to

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Speaker 2: pull that trigger without pushing Jari down said flight of stairs.

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Speaker 1: Now you know, I mean, I see what you're saying,

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Speaker 1: and in a vacuum, you're right, but.

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Speaker 3: It would never happen.

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Speaker 1: But if they're in a playoff spot on February first,

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Speaker 1: they're not disrupting the goaltending that's got them there.

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Speaker 3: Kindall scored on the power plate.

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Speaker 1: Did you know that anytime a Penguins appeared on this show, Tom,

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Speaker 1: he scores a goal within a week, except the goalies

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Speaker 2: Is that all encompassing like a veteran's rookies or are

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Speaker 2: you saying like their debut on the show? They always

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Speaker 2: go out and score all of them.

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Speaker 1: Every single player, every time. It's something I made up

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Speaker 1: just now. The contrast between the Penguins and Steelers is

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Speaker 1: so obvious, isn't it. The Penguins have shed their cloak

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Speaker 1: of staleness. The Steelers wallow in the pits.

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Speaker 2: It's such a shining example for the Steelers right in

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Speaker 2: their own backyard of what can happen when you just

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Speaker 2: change things up, when you just freshen things up. And

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Speaker 2: it's not like they change thing up from the aspect

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Speaker 2: of their roster getting much younger. I mean, they still

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Speaker 2: got a lot of old guys on that Penguins roster,

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Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, an injection of youth, but they're

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Speaker 2: still being carried by Sid and Gino right now. Steelers

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Speaker 2: have an old ass roster. They're past their prime, and

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Speaker 2: they're not Sids and Gino's nowhere close. They don't have

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Speaker 2: any of those guys on that roster. But a new

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Speaker 2: coach and a new approach could do everybody wonders on

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Speaker 2: that team. Maybe you can get something out of TJ.

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Speaker 2: Watstone with a new defensive minded coach, with a new

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Speaker 2: approach overall by a head coach. Stale has just been

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Speaker 2: the theme for both of those teams for so long.

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Speaker 3: It's so stale. I feel stille talking about it.

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Speaker 2: And now the Penguins have freshened themselves up completely and

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Speaker 2: now it's Halloween and you have the most points in

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Speaker 3: See how that works. Well, The problem is with the

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Speaker 1: I mean, there are many problems with that, but it

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Speaker 1: messes up the accountability factor. There's no accountability for con

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Speaker 1: and Tomlin, and that's damaging to them. No pressure means

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Speaker 1: a lesser performance and it's certainly discouraging for the fans.

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Speaker 1: Now we will talk more Steelers all day, whether we

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Speaker 3: But can Penn State even hang at Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: It's a little weird that Ohio State is only an

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Speaker 2: eighteen point favorites. And I know that's a lot of points,

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Speaker 2: but don't you think it should be higher than that

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Speaker 2: With how Penn State has played. They haven't beaten a

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Speaker 2: they can hang with them. The game I'm looking at

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Speaker 2: I don't know at Happy Valley, that could be the

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Speaker 2: game where they potentially pull an up, said, Ohio State's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, does it matter what happens from here

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Speaker 1: on alten And by the way, like now with with

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Speaker 1: to the decision to replace Franklin because even more stupid,

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Speaker 1: because there's never any good to be had by replacing

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Speaker 3: Of the season.

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Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins, you here, they're gonna fire Mike McDaniel. They

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Speaker 1: fired the GM today, But you can't turn it around

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Speaker 1: with a new coach in a game that requires as

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Speaker 3: You'll wait till the end of the season.

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Speaker 1: And I think with Franklin getting fired now, it scared

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Speaker 3: And now who they're gonna get? Yeah, absolutely, who are

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Speaker 2: if he'd just want to, you know, walk away and

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Speaker 2: into it being an upgrade. James Franklin's the best coach

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Speaker 3: You don' wouldn't shock me.

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Speaker 1: They can't do it, but it wouldn't shock me if

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Speaker 1: they cocked themselves into keeping Tearry Smith is the head

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Speaker 2: Well, back to what you were talking about with McDaniel

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Speaker 2: and how he's probably gon.

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Speaker 3: I like Terry and.

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Speaker 1: I like covered him when he played in high school,

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Speaker 3: He ain't it so well, they haven't won a game

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Speaker 2: And what you were saying about McDaniel and the dolphin situation,

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Speaker 2: they're gonna let him ride out this season. I completely

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Speaker 2: agree with you because I fear that what you just

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Speaker 3: Being a sentient.

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Speaker 1: Actually, actually, Penn State is doing itself a favor by

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Speaker 1: continuing to lose under Terry Smith, because that makes him

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, Like, you get so much outside

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Speaker 1: Well, the World Series go to seven games, Game six tonight,

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Speaker 1: I kind of like the Dodgers and Yamamoto tonight. Yamamoto,

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Speaker 1: postseason MVP, even over a time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially because he literally pitches every single inning that

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Speaker 2: Series three. He needs to come up. All singles one

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Speaker 1: How about ikf Lefa the Old Pirate, he's like one

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Speaker 1: for the series, but he's still in the series.

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Speaker 2: I know he's still a big part of the Blue Jays.

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Speaker 2: It's it's really unbelievable to see him out there. He

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Speaker 2: was batting sixth I think in Game five, but in

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Speaker 2: Game four he was batting clean up protecting Vladimir Guerrero.

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Speaker 2: It's like bizarro world.

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Speaker 3: Can you leave?

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Speaker 1: The Penguins are eight two and two. So much for

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Speaker 1: Gavin mckennab. But still, I mean, you can't help, but

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Speaker 1: like it. Like I got a text from a Penguin's

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Speaker 1: lifer who said, this is terrible. They're not going to

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Speaker 1: get a good draft pick. It's not what's right for

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Speaker 1: the team in the long run, big picture. But you

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Speaker 1: should write to call him that glorifies it because it's

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Speaker 1: unbelievable and he's right, And I did.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 2: What's happening right now. Things have stunk around here for

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Speaker 2: so long as far as professional sports are concerned. And

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Speaker 2: the Penguins, that's just a product of the natural run

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Speaker 2: of things, right Like they weren't supposed to be great forever,

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Speaker 2: and you're getting to the end of your run as

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Speaker 2: a true dynasty in hockey, so you're supposed to stink

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Speaker 2: for a little bit. But the other two teams, the

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Speaker 2: Pirates always think and the Steelers have been stuck in

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Speaker 2: that nine and eight Relais, Like, God, this feels so

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Speaker 2: good to be at the top of the league and

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Speaker 2: something to be a badass team. Tough stretch coming up, though, Mark,

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Speaker 2: it's gonna tell a lot with these teams they're playing,

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Speaker 2: starting with Winnipeg.

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Speaker 1: A little review I alluded earlier, Robert Plant was brilliant

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Speaker 1: wheeling contur to the year, his voice, his phrasing. His

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Speaker 1: set list was just one hundred percent five Zeppelin songs,

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Speaker 1: including a medley of Gallows pulling black Dog at the end,

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Speaker 1: The final score last night and Thursday Night Football, Baltimer

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Speaker 3: Like I said them, are the odds.

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Speaker 1: Tom Lamar is back. Will the Ravens catch the Steelers?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I think they are going to catch the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: You know what?

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Speaker 2: I think the records are gonna be on December seventh,

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Speaker 2: I might be wrong with that because the Ravens might

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Speaker 2: We're gonna win every game between now and then. We

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Speaker 2: A team that knows they're not this bad. Like it's

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Speaker 1: Now here's a question I can't answer, Tom, Why are

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Speaker 2: Do you think that that's Vegas kind of reading a

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Speaker 2: of Oh, Mike Tomlin, Steelers at home, they'll bounce back

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Speaker 3: I I no, I disagree.

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Speaker 1: I think I think if the Steelers were like ten

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Speaker 3: Steel hammer them. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I think that this is just their way of

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be Vegas being able to get one over

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Speaker 3: Is a nine and a half.

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Speaker 1: Vegas never tries they try to get fifty anything but

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Speaker 3: Fifty fifty with the big right gets a big clean up.

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Speaker 3: They don't go for that. No, no, no, because that's gambling.

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Speaker 3: They're not they don't gamble yet, they're in Business's a

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Speaker 1: See the line move into like four to four and

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Speaker 2: Yet it's weird to me. It really feels like, you know,

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Speaker 2: That's how good I think this Colts offense is. And

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Speaker 2: Their defense ain't great, though, that's the saving I'll give you.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you a tease, a tease for later.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: You know they're they're third worst than the league in

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Speaker 2: No, I think that's the saving grace for the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: They have to score a lot of points and this

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Speaker 2: to that. It's not like you're playing the Packers defense,

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Speaker 2: which I thought your offense was okay against. Not like

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Speaker 3: So you should be fine.

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Speaker 2: You should be able to move the ball and get

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Speaker 1: What do you think of the concept of this game

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Speaker 3: Zeiss. Zeiss said that we thought the green Bay game

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it, Like it just kind of falls flat

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Speaker 2: when you say it this week, because that was kind

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Speaker 2: Mike Common bounces back. Everybody's writing them off. They'll win

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Speaker 2: I was just you know, that sounds like that sounds

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Speaker 2: It's actually next year. At this time, we just can't

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Speaker 1: I think the world will end into about four h

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Speaker 1: play the what if game? Tom.

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Speaker 3: If the Steelers win, who's going to make the big

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's got to be Dk Metcalf. This has to

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Speaker 1: Who makes the big play on defense?

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's a really good question.

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Speaker 2: It's gotta be like a Watt probably coming in on

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Joey Porter Junior, because at least I

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Speaker 2: And you know what's really bugging me about Patrick Queen

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Speaker 2: And now everybody's saying, well, that's just gonna be even

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Speaker 2: worse now because Elliott's out. Elliott's the guy that's back

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Speaker 2: like just a traditional cliche job of an inside linebacker,

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Speaker 1: He supposed to be the job of an inside backer

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Speaker 3: He should command all of it.

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Speaker 2: And they looked like chickens with their head cut off

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Speaker 3: Act like it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we talked yesterday about Steelers who haven't necessarily disappointed

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Speaker 1: yesterday Again, I'd like that Jalen warn of that list.

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Speaker 1: He's been a semblance of a number one back and

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Speaker 2: Jalen Warren's been really good. He's not a number one

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Speaker 3: They don't.

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Speaker 2: But that's not his fault. Was he supposed to just

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Speaker 2: be great, That would be great. Like no, Alex, you

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Speaker 1: Joe Green did that one time. He benched Fats Holmes

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Speaker 1: to go back on the field. No, no, to go

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Speaker 3: Why would he be putting Joe Green on the sideline.

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Speaker 1: Joe cann He goes, Joe said he'd let me know

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Speaker 1: He fired a rifle at a police helicopter and he

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Speaker 3: He was scared of me and Joe Green. That's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: I am every time I see him.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget tonight, Uh whippy old playoff action starts for

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Speaker 1: high school football and then the five A playoffs. North

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Speaker 1: Hills at Bethel Park, first round. So good luck to

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Speaker 1: North Hills. Come on, you Indians. If the weather holds out,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Northhill's lost to Shaler, which is disappointing to

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Speaker 1: Uh I say again, How about those Penguins at eight

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Speaker 1: And that's good. You gotta win games when them guys

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Speaker 1: The Jets are eight and three. Maybe it's a preview

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Speaker 1: of the Stanley Cup Final. No, really, it's probably the Penguins'

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Speaker 1: first big test, really big test.

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Speaker 3: I mean at Florida. They won, but Florida just so

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Speaker 3: beat up.

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Speaker 1: I can't take them well, I mean I take them

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Speaker 1: seriously because so many of those guys won two straight

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Speaker 3: Two and two is a bit hard to fathom. One

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Speaker 3: hundred percent unexpected.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, unexpected, And you're just getting to the point now

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Speaker 2: where you kind of have to start to expect to

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Speaker 2: make the playoffs. Not expected, but that that should be

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Speaker 2: what the goal is for the season, because I mean,

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Speaker 2: the math is just starting to add up for you

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Speaker 2: that it would be really hard to blow this either.

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Speaker 2: Getting to that Thanksgiving point, like you said, they'll probably

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Speaker 2: just go way up. So you have to adjust your

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Speaker 2: outlook now.

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Speaker 1: Like I said earlier, it's so evident that the Penguins

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Speaker 1: are prospering by change, while the Steelers have remained stale.

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Speaker 1: But it is a Steeler Friday as we await a

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Speaker 1: Sunday's public execution at at for sure, come watch the

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Speaker 1: one pm. A lot of stuff to give away, and

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Speaker 1: I will help you drown your sorrows if indeed they

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Speaker 1: do get killed as I expect, or maybe they'll win.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it will be a Tom Win special. I might

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Speaker 1: put two dimes on Danny dimes. Not sure, but the

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Speaker 1: Steelers getting just three, it just doesn't seem enough. But again,

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk more late the Colts defense, it might

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Speaker 1: not be that great, uh, Bart Scott, we got signed later.

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Speaker 3: Tom.

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Speaker 1: He called the Steelers paper champions today on ESPN. He

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Speaker 1: said they can't touch back, and he's right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you get into a game with a team like this,

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Speaker 2: you just worry that they just don't have what it

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Speaker 2: takes to keep up. Although their offense has been playing better,

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Speaker 2: and maybe they do have the ability to hit him

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Speaker 2: with that counter.

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Speaker 1: The offense pulled the Cincinnati game out of the fire

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Speaker 1: and the defense gave it back. Yep, the offense had

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Speaker 1: them in the lead against Green Bay and the defense gave.

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Speaker 3: It back the offense.

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Speaker 1: There is no blame whatsoever to be put on the offense,

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Speaker 1: to be put on Aaron Rodgers, to be put on

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Speaker 1: Jalen Warren, to be put on an improving offensive line.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean they couldn't do some stuff better, but

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Speaker 1: they have put the Steelers in a position to win

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Speaker 1: as often as not, and the defense gives it back.

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Speaker 2: And the offense saved them right out of the gates

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Speaker 2: of the embarrassment of losing to the old quarterback Justin

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Speaker 2: Fields and the New York Jets because the defense was

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Speaker 2: getting torched by that Jets offense and the offense saved him.

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Speaker 1: That's one thing that we conveniently forget about that the

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Speaker 1: Steelers needed a sixty yard field goal at the death,

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Speaker 1: yes to beat the worst team in the league, and

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Speaker 1: they got out played badly by New England, and New

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Speaker 1: England just made mistake after mistake and gave the game

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Speaker 1: to the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank god Rogers threw for four touchdowns, and thank

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Speaker 2: god Boswell's the best kicker in football, or else you

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Speaker 2: would have lost to the Jets right out of the gate.

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Speaker 2: So they saved the embarrassment there. So I as far

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Speaker 2: as you know, they can't punch back. Maybe they can

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Speaker 2: a little bit more because they can play in a

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Speaker 2: track meet, but they'll probably end up losing that track

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Speaker 2: meet because other teams just have so much more superior

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Speaker 2: weaponry on their offense than the Steelers do.

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Speaker 3: Did you bind the Colt Jet? Yeah, I got seven

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Speaker 3: to one.

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Speaker 2: I do buy into the Colts. I see the obvious comparison.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you have two that they're this year's my

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Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings from last year, right, and Danny Dimes as

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Speaker 2: Sam Darnold, Except they have Jonathan Taylor this year, and

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Speaker 2: you'd counter by saying, oh, well, they had Justin Jefferson

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Speaker 2: on the Vikings. Yeah, it's a little easier to get

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Speaker 2: the ball in Jonathan Taylor's hands than it is to

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Speaker 2: pass it to Justin Jefferson downfield. Though I buy into

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Speaker 2: the Colts. Their offensive line is so bad ass led

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Speaker 2: by Quenton Nelson, that defense is the one side of

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Speaker 2: the ball where you're kind of like.

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Speaker 1: Let me jump in, Like I said, at ranks thirtieth

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Speaker 1: and third nine defense, twenty fourth in yardage forty one

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Speaker 1: yards better than the Steelers, it should be noted at

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Speaker 1: ranks seventh and scoring defense, which means it can stiffen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it bends, it doesn't break. They played a lot

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Speaker 3: of bummy quarterbacks to this point though, too.

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson pointed out, I forget the exact number on

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Speaker 2: his stat pack, though, that the Colts will allow you

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Speaker 2: to turn a set of downs into a new one.

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Speaker 2: In other words, they'll let you stay on the field.

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Speaker 2: They'll bend, but they won't break. And the Steelers really

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Speaker 2: got to do that. They got to possess the ball

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Speaker 2: and then score touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: Then, but don't break stuff. That is the siren song

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Speaker 1: of a defense. It's not that good and will eventually

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Speaker 1: blow up.

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Speaker 2: But then if you have an offense that's as elite

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Speaker 2: as the Colts offense, maybe you can survive with a

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Speaker 2: defense that's different.

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Speaker 1: Right well, now, speaking of me, maybe two dimes on

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Speaker 1: Danny dimes, uh with taking the Colts giving the Steelers three?

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Speaker 1: Did you know, Tom, the Colts have covered this year

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Speaker 1: by an average of almost eleven points so far. If

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Speaker 1: that figure would hold for the season, it would be

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Speaker 1: the highest figure ever. And yet the Colts are only

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Speaker 1: favored by three on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think you should shy away from that.

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Speaker 2: I think that that gives you pause seeing that little number.

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Speaker 2: Why are they only favored by three? I'd take it.

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Speaker 2: I think the Colts are gonna win by at least ten,

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Speaker 2: So go with the Colts. I mean, they could win

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Speaker 2: thirty one to twenty seven and you're still covering that

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Speaker 2: spread if you get it in right now. So I

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Speaker 2: think that that's not a lock, but it's pretty close

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Speaker 2: to being one. What do you think about the total

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Speaker 2: fifty and a half the over under? I think that

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Speaker 2: flies over. It depends how tom Win approaches the game. Like,

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Speaker 2: the Colts could win like forty or three. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: If tom Win plays basketball, it'll go way over.

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Speaker 3: That defense is still might get killed, But.

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Speaker 1: If they play basketball, the score will go way over.

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Speaker 1: If they just try to match the Colts score for score.

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Speaker 3: Will at least get to I think twenty.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what, you know what the Steelers' biggest

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Speaker 1: hope is that Rogers sees it. The only way to

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Speaker 1: win this game is the kind of play basketball, and

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Speaker 1: that he prods Tom and in that direction.

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Speaker 3: God, I hope on the very first drive, Mark, we

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Speaker 3: get a fourth and three on the Colts, like thirty

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Speaker 3: four yard line and they kick a field.

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Speaker 2: I hope we get that scenario, just to see right here,

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Speaker 2: right away. Are you gonna shift your philosophy? Are you

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Speaker 2: going to lean more towards your offense? Are you gonna

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Speaker 2: play the same old kickfield goals and win with defense?

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Speaker 3: Football?

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Speaker 1: A grazylown on ESPN, he called the Colts a red

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Speaker 1: zone special. He's one of the doubters right now. He said,

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Speaker 1: you see their highlights on red zone, nobody ever watches

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Speaker 1: them for sixty minutes, and their defense might not be great.

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Speaker 2: He's right about the last part, but I don't know

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Speaker 2: what he's referring to as far as the first couple

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Speaker 2: of parts are concerned.

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Speaker 3: They have the best running back in football.

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Speaker 1: Maybe people don't know enough about them, because if you

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Speaker 1: see that goes for a lot of teams that, like

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Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts aren't a big brand name, no, And

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Speaker 1: if you just see their highlights, you might these highlights,

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Speaker 1: to them not being very good. It just means their

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Speaker 1: highlights are just Wilza.

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Speaker 2: But now that you're kind of looking at it in

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Speaker 2: more of a closer lens, especially us this week as

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Speaker 2: we're getting ready for them to play the Steelers, Like,

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Speaker 2: the offense has no weakness.

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Speaker 3: Danny Dimes is.

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Speaker 2: The weakness that people are waiting to kind of avail itself,

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Speaker 2: but it hasn't yet. He's been great. He's been one

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Speaker 2: of the best quarterbacks in football. He's an MVP candidate.

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Speaker 2: They have great receivers, they have the best tight end

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Speaker 2: in football maybe, and he's a rookie. They have the

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Speaker 2: best running back in football. And their offensive line is badass.

658
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 2: Like I disagree with Graziano on that. I think the

659
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: Colts offense is for real and it's an offensive league,

660
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Speaker 2: So you hate Grazion I do.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Tom, this next segment and I'm making sure we

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Speaker 1: get out of this once we have time to talk,

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Speaker 1: is going to be about favorite Halloween tract.

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Speaker 3: Yes, with today being Halloween.

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Speaker 1: I remember I said I was debating whether or not

666
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Speaker 1: to leave candyat in a bowl on the stoop because

667
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be around tonight. Well, if your tricker

668
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: treating in my neighborhood, kids, I'm afraid I've got some

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Speaker 1: bad news, but I do have good news too. MTV

670
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: canceled Ridiculousness after fourteen seasons. That is a step in

671
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 1: the right direction for eliminating buffoonery on the airwaves, although

672
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: there's still plenty of places to find that if that's

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Speaker 1: what you're looking for. One oh five nine the X

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Speaker 1: one O five nine the X as your sun at

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Speaker 1: TEGs drink cash money like that.

676
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Speaker 3: Blucho dineros. I'm rich, rich, rich.

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Speaker 4: Listen all day for your chance has some extra cash

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Speaker 4: on one oh five nine.

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Speaker 3: The X from the Dollar Energy Fund Weather Center. This

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Speaker 3: report is sponsored by Levin Furniture and Mattress.

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Speaker 4: It's gotta be partly cloudy to mostly cloudy throughout today,

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Speaker 4: high fifty one cloudy skies tonight and partial clearing overnight,

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Speaker 4: dropping the thirty eight variable cloud on one O five

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Speaker 4: nine the X.

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Speaker 3: Tom It's Halloween. Will you be a costume tonight?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: I will not be in costume tonight, Mark, What about

688
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 3: what about you know, trick or treating?

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00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, the kid's going to be in costume? What was

690
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Speaker 2: cost it is going to be is Daniel Tiger. Hell,

691
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 2: Dan Tigre's a cartoon. You wouldn't get it. You shouldn't

692
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Speaker 2: be watching Daniel Tiger. It'd be really weird if you,

693
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Speaker 2: as a sixty plus year old man, was sitting down

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Speaker 2: and watching that.

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00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: Well, thank you for pointing out my age. What have

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Speaker 1: we got for the trifecta?

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00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 2: Well, for today's trifecta, since it is Halloween, we have

698
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: to embrace cliche and go with Halloween candy. So here's

699
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Speaker 2: my top three. And this is incredibly hard to narrow down.

700
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Speaker 2: I love a lot of.

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Speaker 3: It is top three in descending order.

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00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 2: Yes, in descending order for me personally. Again, so I

703
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Speaker 2: know people out there, don't sharpen your pitchforks because I

704
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Speaker 2: leave something out.

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Speaker 1: It's a tough call. It is number three for me.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be the Twix spar I Love. As

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Speaker 1: in ascending order. You just said it would be in

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Speaker 1: descending order.

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Speaker 3: Now it's I want my number one to be last. Okay,

710
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: whatever that means. That heightens the suspense. Yes, always well

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Speaker 3: received segment. So number three is the twig spar I Love.

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00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 2: A good TwixT spar that cookie kind of middle and

713
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Speaker 2: the chocolate and the caramel.

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Speaker 3: It's just so damn good.

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Speaker 1: I am a fan of TWT TwixT and the nugget

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Speaker 1: Number two for me are Eminem's.

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Speaker 3: I could eat a bucket load of Eminem's.

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00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 2: That's the candy where I probably overeat it too much,

719
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Speaker 2: Like I'll just be like, I went way too hard

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Speaker 2: on those.

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Speaker 3: Here's my complaint.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Eminem's in the Halloween sized packets, it ain't enough

723
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Speaker 1: like a twix Halloween sized candy bar.

724
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Speaker 3: That seems like more than an Eminem.

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Speaker 2: The size you get like what five m and ms mms, yeah,

726
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: something like that.

727
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Speaker 3: Although it is fun.

728
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Speaker 2: If you have like five of them, you can just

729
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Speaker 2: like rip them open then throw them now like you're

730
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Speaker 2: almost taking eminem shooters.

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Speaker 1: I would be more likely, oh good comparison, I would

732
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Speaker 1: be more likely to rip them open and por them

733
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Speaker 1: all in the bowl so.

734
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Speaker 3: I have a big bullet Eminex keep going.

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Speaker 2: Do you like the variations of eminems like the peanut

736
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Speaker 2: butter filled the peanut.

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Speaker 1: I object in principle to the variations of Eminem's, but

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Speaker 1: I eat here's the ones I like. I like, of course,

739
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Speaker 1: playing a peanut both, right, I like the caramel, and

740
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Speaker 1: didn't they do it like a fudge cookie one too?

741
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Speaker 3: Something like that.

742
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Speaker 2: I might have had some really unique crust of her.

743
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 2: The peanut butter one are really good, but they're really rich.

744
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 2: You can't eat too much.

745
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're but you know you get reeses for that.

746
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: And that's my number one mark.

747
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: I know that's super cliche as well, that's really mainstream,

748
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 2: but I embrace that and it's a reason why it's

749
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: so mainstream because it is so damn good.

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Speaker 3: Well, okay, my number one.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, the trifector brought was by Danny's

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Speaker 1: Pizza and hogis Pittsburgh's original oven bake togy since nineteen sixty.

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Speaker 1: That's Danny's Root eighty eight in Bethel Park. I would

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Speaker 1: take a Danny's Hogy my trick or treat bag. Yeah,

755
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: little messy.

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00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 2: Well, here's a big key not to get ahead of

757
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 2: this before you reveal yours, Like, you need to have

758
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Speaker 2: some variety in the trick or treat bag. It can't

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Speaker 2: just be all chocolates. I need to see some fruit

760
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 2: snacks in there. Some bummies, yes, yes, like fruit snack gummies,

761
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 2: like fruit.

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Speaker 3: Back in my day, they would throw an apple in there.

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Speaker 2: Forget that. That's the worst. No, I'm talking like fruit

764
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Speaker 2: by the foot. I'm talking like fruit gushers. I'm talking

765
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. Skittles.

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00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: Okay, here, well, here's here's my number one No. As

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Speaker 1: a kid, Nestle's Crunch. I love a crunch was my

768
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: number one. Nestlie's crunch. One hundred thousand dollar bars too,

769
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: but like again, segueing into being sixty four one hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand dollar bars now with the caramel or liby yank

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Speaker 1: got a feeling or take off a crown.

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Speaker 2: It's a good point. You know what else is like

773
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Speaker 2: that Airhead's laughy taffy, those kind of camp.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't even I wouldn't even at any age have

775
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: eaten laughy taffy. But but now, my favorite Halloween candy,

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Speaker 1: which is kind of a superfluous statement because I don't

777
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: trick or treat, but it's KitKat. Kit Cat's probably my

778
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: favorite candy right now, if you narrow me down to one,

779
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: you know why, adult thing? It's good with coffee, yeah,

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00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: I can definitely see it kick cat and coffee, Yeah,

781
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: I could see it being good I've never done it,

782
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: but that's just a way. That was an ad campaign

783
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: for them to have KitKat with coffee at your coffee break.

784
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 3: And it died like a dog.

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00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: It's such a you know, you break it off and

786
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: it's such a dippable kind of candy bar.

787
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Speaker 3: As well.

788
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: Y arm Or Yager loved kitkit cats, which is big

789
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: thing as a teenager. None of what you just brought

790
00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: up is bad by any stretch.

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00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: And if you.

792
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: Girls would give him kit cats, and I'm I'm pretty

793
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: sure I know what he gave them.

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00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 2: If you were to resent me, was the kit cat.

795
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: Those three candy bars, I'm eating those with glee. Those

796
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 2: are all so great. Yes, they're great.

797
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: Now now I will give credit to it's your number

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Speaker 1: one Reese's peanut butter cups. And especially you'll disagree if

799
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: this time of year they're pumpkin flavored. They're just because

800
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Speaker 1: they do it right. They don't overwhelm with the pumpkin.

801
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Speaker 1: It just has that little pumpkin smidge in there.

802
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 2: I disagree. I do not disagree. I think the pumpkin

803
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Speaker 2: shaped Greasas are so damn good. I think the Christmas

804
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: shaped Greeceas are good too. I think you get more

805
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: surface area of peanut butter in those specialty ones that

806
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 2: I think just elevates it to a different level.

807
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Speaker 1: And Tom as listeners know, Reese's Peanut butter cups are

808
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: the only way I ingest peanuts.

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Speaker 3: Right.

810
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: I have never had a peanut butter sandwich ever. No,

811
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Speaker 1: never my mom. I used to take jelly in my

812
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: lunch box to school with grade school, back when you

813
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: took lunch of school, and one time my mom put

814
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: peanut butter and jelly in there.

815
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Speaker 3: I refuse to eat it.

816
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: I was like in fourth grade, and I recall coming

817
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: home and saying words along the lines that she betrayed me,

818
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: something something very dramatic, like if it was now, I

819
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: would have said, she turned heel.

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00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 3: I have a PB and Jane the fridge. Actually no

821
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 3: that I'm thinking, do you want to try one? Right now?

822
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: For the the only way I consume peanut butter is

823
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: in Reese's Peanut butter cups. I I like even like

824
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: you know how sometimes at fancy parties they fill celery

825
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: sticks with peanut butter.

826
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Speaker 3: Yes, I would rather have that jammed in my eye

827
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 3: than eat it. Now, moving on to other candies, some

828
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 3: of the lesser lights.

829
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Speaker 1: I'm anti Starburst, anti Nerds'm anti Skittles, I'm anti anything

830
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 1: homemade and wrapped in foil or wax paper or saran wrapped.

831
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: Correct could be poisoned, could be razor blades jammed in there,

832
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: but the basics are almost all good. Like we mentioned snickers, twigs, Yes,

833
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: Milky Way, three Musketeers, and the bigger the better. Although

834
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 1: you ever get like a full sized candy bar when

835
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: you were trick or treating, Yes, it's the best. Okay,

836
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna disagree. Really, yeah, even though you know there's

837
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: more to eat. It violates the spirit of Halloween.

838
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but as a kid, you just see that big

839
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 2: bar and it's just gluttony takes over.

840
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 1: It violates the spirit of Halloween. But I did eat

841
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: it back then.

842
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 3: Now, now, when you bring your how old your kidding.

843
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 3: He's only two, so he's not gonna he's not gonna

844
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 3: go door to door. You basically carry him around with

845
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 3: a couple of houses. Right, it's for me, the candies

846
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 3: for me here.

847
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: He has no idea what's going on, right, This is

848
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: all for me, right, right, Because now when your kid

849
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: gets older, like at what age do they walk around

850
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,919
Speaker 1: to trick or treat because I like four or five, Yeah,

851
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: with parents supervision. Then I'd say probably when you get

852
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: to like seven, eight, nine, you probably go out by yourself, right,

853
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: I think it's probably nine or ten you out by

854
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: yourself in the neighborhood. Okay, yeah, Now, now I'm a

855
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: terrible parent.

856
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 3: Look at me. I'm sending them out like six years old.

857
00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 3: Get out there.

858
00:35:59,000 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: Now?

859
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 3: When you will you eat your kids candy?

860
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 2: Oh my god, every single piece he gets will be

861
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 2: mine this time in the future.

862
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, some of it.

863
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: Now, when your kid's older and he brings some of

864
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: the big bag of candy after working for it, do

865
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: you regulate how much he eats of it, like per day?

866
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 3: Right then and there? What do you do?

867
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 2: Nah, he can go as crazy as he wants to.

868
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be like that. I'm not gonna be

869
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 2: a police state kind of data time.

870
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you right now, you're making a mistake,

871
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: because that's how kids get fat.

872
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 3: I'm telling you.

873
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: Okay, hey, and one thing, and I say this to

874
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Speaker 1: all the parents out there, all the kids out there.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to get fat. Okay, you just don't

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Speaker 1: want to get fat. Like it has been such a

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Speaker 1: bane in my existence. It's hurt my career, it's hurt

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Speaker 1: me personally. And I'm like people that I'm kidding right now.

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Speaker 3: Probably I mean that. I mean it could be worse.

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Speaker 1: I could be a fat, talentless guy who produces a

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Speaker 1: show in the morning.

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Speaker 3: But but but you know, I'm still fat. It ain't good. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So how about this.

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Speaker 2: Then he can eat as much candy as he wants,

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Speaker 2: but for every candy bar he eats, we're running a

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Speaker 2: gasser outside, Like one candy bar equals one gas.

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Speaker 3: That's even worse. Why can't you just teach them a

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Speaker 3: little bit of personal discipline that I did not have.

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Speaker 3: That sounds like a lot of work. Five nine x.

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Speaker 3: Now it's your chance to win one thousand dollars.