1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray w BZ Costs Radio. 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: All Right, welcome back, Thanks very much, Danion Walkins. As 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: we head into our ten o'clock hour. Earlier tonight, you 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: may have seen or heard the State of the State 5 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: of the State of the Commonwealth address given by Governor Healey, 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 2: the third of her term in office. She's up for 7 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: reelection this year. Obviously there will be a serious Republican challenger. 8 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 2: There are three serious challengers. One of them will emerge 9 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 2: and we'll probably have a very interesting governor's race this 10 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: fall August or September October. The governor will be the 11 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: favorite because Democrats really run Massachusetts and one of the 12 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: issues that the Governor tried to talk about tonight are 13 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: the utility bills that all of us are experiencing in Massachusetts. 14 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: So this was your third State of the Commonwealth address, 15 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: that's the formal title. We call it the State of 16 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 2: the State Address. And as she, as all governors would do, 17 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: she used it as an opportunity to talk about all 18 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: the positive things that she believes are going on in 19 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: the Commonwealth, and of course to invoke criticism of President Trump. 20 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: But in terms of substance, I thought the most substantive 21 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: part of the speech was her comments about utilities. Now, 22 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: I would like we haven't talked about this on nightside 23 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: in a long time, but we are in the depth 24 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: of winter right now. You heard the forecast there during 25 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: Dan Watkins ten o'clock newscast. It's going to be brutally 26 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 2: called this weekend. It's going to be brutally called going 27 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: into this snowstorm. My suspicion is the snowstorm will actually 28 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: warm things up a little bit. We're going to get 29 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: anywhere from upwards of a foot of snow in different 30 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: parts of the state, and then it's going to be 31 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: brutally cold after the snowstorm. Now, one of the things 32 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 2: you're going to have to do this weekend is make 33 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: sure that and I was listening tonight to someone who 34 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: was making suggestions I think it was on one of 35 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 2: the television stations that you want to make sure that 36 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: all of your exterior pipes, meaning pipes and bathrooms and kitchens, 37 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 2: that you open up and make sure that the doors 38 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: that those pipes don't freeze, because that can cause you 39 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 2: incredible problems. And they'll be tremendous demand for energy this weekend, 40 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: both electricity and gas, and of course all that's going 41 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 2: to mean is that the bills are higher and higher 42 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: and higher. I follow my bills very closely, and I've 43 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: lived in the same house for some time now, and 44 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: I have tracked every month how many different levels of 45 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: energy I use and kill AWT hours and things like 46 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 2: like that, and I do better and better and better 47 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 2: every year, and yet the bill goes up dramatically. And 48 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 2: in Massachusetts, I think our utility bills and it's not 49 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: Governor Heay's fault, per se. It's been sort of the 50 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: legislature's reliance upon what they consider to be They put 51 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: all their bets. I guess the legislature on a wind energy, 52 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 2: which has not done here in New England anywhere close 53 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: to what we wanted. There was a lot of money 54 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: put into solar energy, and solar energy probably works pretty 55 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 2: nice in June, July, August and September, but during most 56 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: of the year we are We're not Arizona for those 57 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: of you who are not geography majors, we are not 58 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: contiguous to Arizona or a New Mexico, so we're a 59 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: cold weather state most of the year, and electric bills 60 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 2: and gas bills, utility bills, they have all gone up. 61 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 2: So if you have noticed a hike over the last 62 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 2: few years in your utility bills, you at least should 63 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: ask yourself why. And maybe some of you out there 64 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 2: want to talk about why we have not had new 65 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: pipelines in this state in a while. As watching report 66 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 2: on Channel five tonight that said that some of the 67 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: pipelines that are being actually repaired are costing two and 68 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 2: three times the projected costs and all that gets passed 69 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,239 Speaker 2: on to the right payers. And we live we also 70 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 2: live in a cold weather part of the country where 71 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: we use a lot of energy. Look down in the 72 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: aforementioned Arizona in New Mexico and Florida and Texas, they 73 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: probably have some high energy bills in the summertime. With 74 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 2: air conditioning, we have air conditioning needs depending upon where 75 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 2: you live and what your house is capable of doing, 76 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: whether it's using a fan or regular air conditioning. In 77 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 2: July and August, yeah, that will that will pump your 78 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: your builts up a little bit. But for us, it's 79 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 2: the cold weather. And the governor tonight has said that 80 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 2: I'm going to quote hear from the from the speech 81 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 2: she said, I called on the utilities to lower bills 82 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: this winter. We went through that last winter. If you remember, 83 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: and I don't know about you, but I never saw 84 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: a break on my utility bill. If you actually saw 85 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 2: a break on your utility bill last winter, i'd like 86 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 2: you to call in and tell us about it. I 87 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 2: never saw a break. There was some suggestion that utility 88 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: bills in February and March we're going to be reduced. Well, 89 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: that's what the governor is promising. Again. I called on 90 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: the utilities to lower bills this winter. They weren't lowered 91 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: in December. In my opinion, they weren't lowered in January. 92 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: They should be paying attention to the governor. And now 93 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: the governor said tonight relief is on the way. Massachusetts 94 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 2: customers will see their February and March electric bills reduced 95 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 2: by twenty five percent. Governor, my question would be twenty 96 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: five percent of what? Twenty five percent of the January 97 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: bill or twenty five percent of last February and last 98 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: March's bill, I'm not sure. And gas bills reduced by 99 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 2: ten percent again, ten percent of what. We also know 100 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 2: that long term help is needed, there's no question about that. 101 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 2: That's why this is the governor speaking tonight. That's why 102 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 2: we're going to keep working every day to bring more 103 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: energy into our state, oppose rate hikes, and get charges 104 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: off of bills. The Energy and Environmental Affairs Secretary Rebecca 105 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 2: Tepper said families cannot support big winter energy bills right now, 106 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 2: so we called for more relief. Our administration is working 107 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: help families make ends meet with one hundred and eighty 108 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 2: million dollars in support. Well, one hundred and eighty million 109 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 2: dollars in support I assume comes from tax revenues, and 110 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 2: so it's not as if it's free money. It's money 111 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: that has been raised by the state, unless there's a 112 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: pool of money that the utilities have contributed to that 113 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: I'm not familiar with. Secretary Tepper goes on to say, 114 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 2: while continuing our advocacy from major reforms, our energy Affordability 115 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: legislation would deliver lower cost energy in winter months by 116 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: getting more energy built type of energy, Secretary Tepper, getting 117 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 2: us a better price and driving down your delivery costs. 118 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 2: With energy costs rising nationwide, we're going to keep calling 119 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: for strong action in Massachusetts. They're saying that as energy 120 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: prices spiked last year, Governor Healy sent two hundred and 121 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: twenty million to consumers through rebates and lower bills. I 122 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: don't recall seeing that. If you've benefited from that last year, 123 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: please call in. If you, like me, have not seen 124 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 2: a break, I'd love to hear from you as well. 125 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: Or do you feel really warm and fuzzy about utility 126 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: bills in Massachusetts? We're a high cost energy state. There's 127 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 2: no getting around that. And that has to do with geography, 128 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 2: has to do with climate. Hey, what else it has 129 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 2: to do with a lot of the Democrats who were 130 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: in office ten years ago, twenty years ago, thank you 131 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: to Vell Patrick. They bought into wind energy, and they 132 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 2: bought into solar energy, and they spent a lot of 133 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 2: money on energies that would be ineffective here in Massachusetts. 134 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 2: We are now paying the price for those decisions. I'm 135 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 2: not here to blame Governor Healey because she's only been 136 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: in office now for three years. But I do believe 137 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: that the people that were in power from the turn 138 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: of the century twenty two thousand and one or two thousand, 139 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 2: none of them look forward. None of them saw what 140 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 2: we needed. We're at the end of the pipeline. We're 141 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 2: a mess. We're a mess. I hope Governor Healey can 142 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: clean it up. I'm not sure she can, but I'd 143 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: love to hear from you. If you watch the speech tonight. 144 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: Six one seven, two, five, four to ten thirty, if 145 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 2: you have seen your energy bill recently, if you've paid it. 146 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: Many people are telling me they have energy bills five hundred, 147 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 2: six hundred and seven hundred dollars six one seven, two, 148 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 2: five four ten thirty, six one seven, nine three one 149 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: ten thirty. Let's talk about energy here and the cost 150 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 2: of energy in New England and those of you from 151 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 2: around the country. If you have better options in other states. 152 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 2: I'd love to know what they are. Open up those lines, 153 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 2: rob Let's get it going. Six one seven, two, five 154 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty. 155 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: And if you are happy with your energy bills, if 156 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 2: you feel that you are getting a good bang for 157 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 2: you buck and you are not concerned, or you feel 158 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: that the energy that you're paying for whatever your utilities are, 159 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: or it's a good deal, please please give us a call, 160 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 2: particularly if you're from Massachusetts. Back on night Side after. 161 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: This, you're on night Side with Dan Ray. I'm WZ 162 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: Boston's news radio. 163 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 2: Okay, by the overwhelming response here phone calls it sounds 164 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: it looks to me as if everybody's happy with their 165 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: utility bills, at least in Massachusetts or anywhere. So when 166 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 2: that happens, as a smart talk show host, maybe not 167 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: the smartest talk show host, but a smart talk show host, 168 00:10:55,120 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 2: we're gonna do a Goldilocks question. You can participate when 169 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 2: you think of your utility bill, and maybe you don't 170 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 2: have a utility bill, maybe you are stealing utility from 171 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: your neighbor. I don't know. All of you have to 172 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 2: pay utility bills. Wake up, you know that. So we'll 173 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 2: make it a Goldilocks question in your opinion, and you 174 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 2: can tell me there are three answers in your opinion 175 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 2: here in wherever you live Massachusetts, wherever in New England, Maine, 176 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 2: New Hampshire, Vermont, Rhode Island, Connecticut, or if you're anywhere 177 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 2: else in the country. I would love to know if 178 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 2: you think you are paying too much. That's why we 179 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 2: call it the Goldilocks question. Are you paying too much, 180 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 2: too little, or just right. I can't imagine that there 181 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 2: is anyone in this audience who feel unless they work 182 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 2: for a utility company that they're feeling that they're paying 183 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 2: too much rather too little for their election tricity supply 184 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: or the guest supply. The other question is if you 185 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: feel as if you were paying too much, there is 186 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: a way in which you can have some control over 187 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 2: how much you pay, not for the hardline cost for 188 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 2: the pipes and all of that, but for the supply, 189 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 2: because there is a website in Massachusetts, and I suspect 190 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 2: in most states where the cost of utilities not you know, 191 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 2: if you're a customer of fill in the blank, if 192 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 2: you're the customer of National Grid, if you're the customer 193 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: of ever source, you have no choice. You have to 194 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 2: pay your bill to that company. But the company that 195 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: supplies the electricity or supplies the natural guest, they are 196 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 2: listed on a website. So I will find that website 197 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 2: and direct you to it. If you stay on top 198 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 2: of it, you can generally save money by going to 199 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 2: that website. I will get that website for you during 200 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 2: the newscast at the bottom of the hour, because I 201 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 2: go to it all the time, and I oftentimes when 202 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 2: my contract runs out, I will find a better contract 203 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 2: because invariably the amount of money that's charged by the utility. 204 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 2: If you don't pick a company, you default to paying 205 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 2: the cost that the utility pays. And of course what 206 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: the utility will do, which is just the business practice, 207 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 2: if they're paying x per killer watt hour or x 208 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 2: per therm, then they will add ten percent or twenty percent. 209 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: And so therefore these are good websites. Our Attorney general 210 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 2: wanted to take them away from us. By the way, 211 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: Andrea Campbell, which to me, was crazy, go to bill Bill, 212 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 2: you are next or first this hour on night's side. 213 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 2: Are you paying too much, too little or just right 214 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 2: for your utilities here in Massachusetts? 215 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 3: Well, I mean I have a condo and we just 216 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 3: raised a condo fee. I'm actually on the board. And 217 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 3: you know, if you look year over year at the 218 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 3: cost of the gas, I mean that's a drive in 219 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 3: factor as far as the overall budget. Also, insurance is 220 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 3: another one, but that's another story. Yeah, but I have 221 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 3: more people, I know, and if you go on Facebook 222 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 3: with friends and stuff and the post of these energy 223 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 3: bills all over the place showing the delivery charges, you know, Yeah, 224 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 3: I've been trying to tell people for a long time 225 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 3: because not only do I have. I have that business north, 226 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 3: but I had a laundry mat also Dan for several years. 227 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 3: I just actually sold a few months ago, and I 228 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 3: just saw it long term, that you know. And I 229 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 3: had a state of the gas system put in there, 230 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 3: most efficient one you could get. I serviced it every 231 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 3: year and I could just see the writing on the wall. 232 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 3: How much can you pass on the customers because they'll 233 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 3: come in and go crazy about quarter of fifty cents. 234 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 3: But yeah, for the last ten years they've voted for 235 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 3: these policies that have led to this. 236 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 2: Well you said you mentioned New Hampshire. 237 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, yeah, No, I have had a. 238 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,119 Speaker 2: Business in New Hampshire, but yeah, I would assume. 239 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 3: That in the Boston area, but New Hampshire, Boggin. 240 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 2: Really I assumed New Hampshire. 241 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,239 Speaker 3: No, we'll see, you know, if they had the options, 242 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 3: they're kind of a victim because, yeah, you have seed Brooks, 243 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 3: you have the nukes right over there, which is aging 244 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 3: by the way, and I don't know what else they 245 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 3: have coming in, but they probably would do more a 246 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 3: lot more natural gas. But you can't get anything to 247 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 3: do through New York and he can't frack in New York, 248 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 3: and you can't get the gas up through Pennsylvania. He 249 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 3: got four hundred years worth because you're gonna run the 250 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 3: pipelines through Massachusetts, which Massachusetts. If they all got together 251 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 3: and said, hey, we're going to do these pipelines and 252 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 3: start doing it. I mean, of course they're going to say, well, 253 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 3: that takes years. But I mean, you know, if they 254 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 3: started five ten years ago instead of taking windmills and 255 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 3: then things that didn't work, we'd be in better shape. 256 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 3: So it's better to start something. I gotta be honest 257 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 3: with you. I have and you look at it. I mean, 258 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 3: the line should be jammed tonight. So evidently people are 259 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 3: happy with these policies and they're going to get a 260 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 3: lot more of it. They think it's bad. Now, Dan, 261 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 3: all right, you wait another five years and heally will 262 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 3: get reelected. By the way, she won't get sixty percent, 263 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 3: so it will be fifty two forty eight because a 264 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 3: lot of people have left and already voted with their 265 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 3: feat and you'll see it in the census numbers in 266 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 3: twenty thirty in Florida and South Carolina and Tennessee former 267 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 3: Massachusetts residents and they're no longer here. 268 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: I fear that that is going to happen. But I 269 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 2: will tell you this. There's an old saying, when is 270 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 2: the best time to plant a tree? And the answer 271 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 2: is yesterday? So when was the best best time to 272 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 2: get more gasped into Massachusetts or get more nuclear It 273 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 2: would have been five years ago. But that's why I 274 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 2: was saying, I am not blaming Governor Healy for the 275 00:16:55,800 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 2: situation we find ourselves in, because it was the politicians 276 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 2: of the early part of this century, whether it was uh, 277 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 2: well you know Baker, or Or or Governor Develle Patrick 278 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 2: or Governor Romney. Yeah, you know, they weren't paying attention. 279 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 3: And well, I mean, yeah, they're accomplices. And this also 280 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 3: but if you look at her eight years as Attorney 281 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 3: General and a lot of the stuff she did, she 282 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 3: was not very pro energy. She was she was right 283 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 3: down the line with the rest of them. So she 284 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 3: had an eight year run. I'm concerned, she said twelve 285 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 3: years at it, because I'm counting those eight years. And 286 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 3: if you look at the record and you know there 287 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 3: is there is her campaigning four years ago, and there's 288 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 3: active footage and you're going to see it in the campaign. 289 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 2: I get it. No, I get it. But she wasn't 290 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 2: the governor then. So so the website I'm talking about 291 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 2: is mass Energy Ratings dot com and there are a 292 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 2: variety of companies that that we can purchase depending upon 293 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 2: your zip code. You have to put in your zip code, 294 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: and when you put your zip code in, it will 295 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: explain to you what companies are available other than the 296 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 2: big providers in Massachusetts. I mean, if you if you 297 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 2: want to get your energy through ever source, national grid unit, 298 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 2: til whoever you're dealing with, you'll you'll pay the price 299 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 2: that they're going to charge you. In order to get 300 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: out from underneath that price, you got to go to 301 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 2: this website and look at it and see which which 302 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 2: price works best for you. Some of them are twelve 303 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 2: months fix rates, some of them are eighteen months fix rates. 304 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 2: I mean, you got to you gotta fend for yourself. 305 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 2: But in terms of the question, bill, you think that 306 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 2: the energy rates and what you're paying here in Massachusetts 307 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 2: obviously is I assume you vote you would vote too high? 308 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 309 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And people don't even realize it, and it isn't 310 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 3: just affecting themselves. These businesses that they visit and they 311 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 3: talk about inflation, Well, what do you heat the commercial 312 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 3: businesses paying, which is a higher rate for their electric Yeah. Absolutely, 313 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 3: and that's get passed on at the shelf. 314 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 2: I got a question, So you're on a condo board, 315 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 2: so let us assume so you're the electricity or the 316 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: heat that you use in your condo gets sent to 317 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 2: the board, and the board pays for everyone. Correct. 318 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's pulled in. So basically, if you look 319 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 3: at the line items the budget, yeero overear you have gas, 320 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 3: you'd have electric insurance, we have a pool, the maintenance, 321 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 3: all all that stuff, anything that's gone on any project. 322 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: How how big is you number? 323 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 4: How very big? 324 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 3: Four? 325 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 2: And so many questions. We got to hit the questions. 326 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: Here's my question, what do you do if there's somebody 327 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 2: who has to keep the heat up at eighty five 328 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 2: every day? Do they pay extra or does this whole 329 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 2: bill get split up in the condo fees? 330 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 3: No, No, it's it's all under one line. You pay 331 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 3: a condo feed and that's it. I mean then, but 332 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 3: the boiler is just one boiler that feeds everything that's 333 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 3: gas that's run in. 334 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 2: Right, So therefore, what I'm saying is, if you're a 335 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 2: reasonable person who keeps your heat at sixty seven, sixty 336 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: eight or whatever. You're responsible. There's no incentive for you 337 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 2: to keep your heat lower in that situation. As while 338 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 2: an individual homeowner is able to control their bill, you don't. 339 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 2: You really can't control your bill. 340 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 3: No, I mean I I don't get carried away because 341 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 3: I don't like it that hot and I like it 342 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 3: a little cool. When you sleep medically, it's better and 343 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 3: you get a better sleep. That's type of situation. 344 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 4: Person. 345 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: All right, Bill, I'll let you run. I get my 346 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 2: newscasts coming at me. 347 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 3: Keep it moving, you. 348 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 2: Bet it, Thank you much, okay. One line at six one, seven, 349 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 2: two five four. One line at six one, seven, nine, three, one, 350 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 2: ten thirty. This is Goldilock's question. This is for people 351 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 2: in Massachusetts and outside of massachus but I want to 352 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 2: hear from Massachusetts. Do you feel that you're paying too much, 353 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 2: too little, or just right for your utility your energy 354 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 2: cost in Massachusetts. It was a big part of the 355 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 2: governor's speech tonight. I don't have all the answers to 356 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 2: the questions, but you have the experience, and I would 357 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 2: love to hear from you. And if you get a chance, 358 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 2: you want to go to this website at some point 359 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 2: you want to check your own bills, if particularly if 360 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 2: you own your own home, and you can impact how 361 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 2: much you pay for your energy cost. It's becoming a 362 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 2: bigger part of everyone's budget. There's just no way to 363 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 2: describe it. Part of it is because we live in 364 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 2: New England, but part of it is we have politicians 365 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 2: and political leaders who missed the boat ten, fifteen, twenty 366 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 2: years ago and we're paying for their mistakes now. They 367 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 2: were all in for solar, they were all in for 368 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 2: wind energy. They should have been thinking nuclear, they should 369 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: have been thinking natural gas, and they should have been 370 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:07,719 Speaker 2: thinking hydro. But that's that's the situation we find ourselves in. 371 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 2: I want you to answer the Goldilocks question too much, 372 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 2: too little? Just right back on Nightside after this. 373 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's 374 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: news Radio. 375 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 2: Next up is Joel and Natick. Hey, Joel, welcome, How 376 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 2: are you, sir? 377 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 4: I'm doing fine, trying to keep on Dan. 378 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,719 Speaker 2: I'll bet you are watching watch that thermostat. It's money, 379 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 2: it's money going out the window. So uh are your 380 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 2: utility bills too high? Uh? Too too too small? Or 381 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 2: just right? 382 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 4: Too high? 383 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: Dan? 384 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, no question, no question. 385 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 4: You know why they put stuff on They put stuff 386 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 4: on your They put stuff on your on your electric bail, 387 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 4: and say, what is this? What are these charges? I 388 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 4: don't have. They charge you for a solo charge. I 389 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 4: don't have solo panels, electric vehicle program. I don't have 390 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 4: an electric vehicle. Yeah, the charge you for a net 391 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 4: made of recovery surcharge. I ain't gonna do meeta yet. Well, 392 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 4: it's not a scam. 393 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 2: It's Joe. Look, it's a scam to to to get 394 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 2: into your pocket. That's what it comes down to. They 395 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: have stuff there. Can you imagine if you went to 396 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 2: a restaurant tomorrow night and you ordered dinner with your wife, 397 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, in addition to the meal 398 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 2: that you ordered, they had a you know, dishwasher cleaning charge. 399 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 2: They they had pressed you know, neatly pressed uniform charge. 400 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 2: Uh that that we had on their the the the 401 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 2: courtesy waitress smile charge. You would be you everybody would 402 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 2: go insane. But because it's on your utility bill, we 403 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 2: all pay it. 404 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 4: I have, Dan, Yeah. 405 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 2: I'm here. I want to get your reaction to that. 406 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 4: You know what I would do, Dan, I do wander out. 407 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 4: I wouldn't sit down at that restaurant. 408 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 2: Right, you'd you'd exercise a choice. But what I'm saying 409 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 2: is you've got to have electricity, and you've got to 410 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 2: have some some however your heat, your home is heated. 411 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: Uh. 412 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 2: And so therefore we all acquiesce here in Massachusetts because 413 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 2: all of this stuff is approved by the state. I mean, 414 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 2: it's not as if they're making this stuff up at 415 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 2: the utilities. It's it goes to the state, uh, and 416 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 2: they approve it, and next thing is on your bill. 417 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 4: Can I can I tell you a story about solar energy? 418 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 2: Sure? Yeah, I love to hear it. 419 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 4: Okay. This company came by I'm giving the name. It's 420 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 4: called sun Ron, right okay, and they're doing this soul 421 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,239 Speaker 4: energy through a lot of the houses in mine, in 422 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 4: my neighborhood. And they said they'll put up the panals 423 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 4: and you know your electric bill is going to be 424 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 4: much much less. 425 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 2: Okay. 426 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 4: Okay. The thing is you don't own the panels, you're 427 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 4: renting the panels. 428 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 2: Okay. 429 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 4: You can't take any of the energy settings on your taxes, 430 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 4: oh okay. And release is twenty five years okay. So 431 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 4: what happens when you sell your property. Well, the next owner, 432 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 4: it's stuck with it. 433 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: Right, Sure, I hope you didn't do that. 434 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no no. And if you want to 435 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 4: pay for the panels as exorbitant, you can't afford the panels. 436 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would always ask in a situation like that, Okay, 437 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 2: what damage could be done to my roof? And then 438 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 2: what is that? What's the time? What is the recovery time? 439 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 2: So if the panels cost you x, how many months 440 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 2: of electricity use will have to pass before you get back? 441 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:02,239 Speaker 4: Even immediately? They say imdiately. But that's the thing is 442 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 4: people have complained about this company because the roof leaks. 443 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 2: And yeah, I think I mentioned that. 444 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 4: The addicts get wet and the company gets ruined, and 445 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 4: then they complain to the Better Business Bureau and then 446 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 4: they come out and they fix your roof for you. 447 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 2: Also, who fixes your roof for you? 448 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 4: They do they do? 449 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 2: Do they actually do they actually do it? 450 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 4: Or not they actually do it? 451 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 2: Okay, Well that's if they actually do that, that's a 452 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 2: good company. 453 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 4: But still you have a lot of complaints about the 454 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 4: type of work they do. 455 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 2: Well, you have kept yourself out of the line of 456 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 2: fire there, Joel, which is good. 457 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 4: I have one more thing I have to point out 458 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,479 Speaker 4: is that they you save a certain amount of money 459 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 4: each month, but every year they add a inflation claw 460 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 4: to your bill to that you're saving, but you're also 461 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 4: paying them excess amount of money. 462 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds to know. That sounds like to me 463 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 2: that's a shop their sharp businessman. I used to get 464 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 2: this stuff in the mail, you know, solar energy and 465 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,719 Speaker 2: all of that, and you call up and you say, well, 466 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 2: what's the benefit. Well, it's a cleaner form of energy, 467 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 2: and it's good for the environment and all of that. 468 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 2: And then I would say, well, how much is that 469 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 2: going to cost? And they would quote a price which 470 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 2: was way above what I was paying. And I'd say, 471 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 2: why now if if you didn't ask what the price 472 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 2: was was and you went ahead and you would find 473 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 2: out what the price was once once the building started. 474 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: But look, I want to be as good to the 475 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 2: planet as anyone is good to the planet. Someone said that, 476 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 2: what's that The singer Katie Perry who took one of 477 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 2: those flights into into outer space about sixty miles up, 478 00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 2: sixty miles up, sixteen miles back. And I guess in 479 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 2: using that she she she expended so much carbon into 480 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 2: the atmosphere, and then she flew, I guess privately into 481 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 2: the DeVos. Why why do we have like singers and 482 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 2: movie stars going to this this DeVos Economic Forum. I mean, 483 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 2: shouldn't that be like for heads of state and prime 484 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 2: ministers and uh and and and uh and and economists. 485 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 2: The beautiful, the beautiful people loved loved to love to 486 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 2: fly private and and they love to talk about, you know, 487 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 2: save saving the environment. You can't do both, you can. 488 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I saw him? Why is he there? He's 489 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: not like, he's not like the vice president. He's not 490 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 2: the President in waiting. He's a part of a he's 491 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 2: a big state. He might have a bigger economy than 492 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 2: a lot of economies in the world. But what the 493 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 2: hell is he doing there? Why didn't our governor go there? 494 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 2: Why did the governor Rhode Island go there? 495 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 4: I mean, I think when I think he went dead 496 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 4: to say bad things about Trump. 497 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 2: That's question, no question. You know. Plus he's he's he 498 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 2: he's got a disaster area out in called the state 499 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 2: of California. Joe, love you call me and we'll talk soon. Okay, 500 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 2: thank you so much. I gotta get to my break. 501 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 4: Okay, thanks talk, So. 502 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 2: Why are we getting that? I'm getting that sound now 503 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 2: when I when I click off people here, Rob, I'm 504 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: not sure what's going on there. Back on night Side, 505 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 2: we got one line at six months seven two, five, 506 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: four ten thirty. One line at six months seven nine, 507 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 2: three nine three one ten thirty. My question is real simple. 508 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 2: Your energy bills. And I don't need to know what 509 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 2: company is serving you, but your energy bills, you don't 510 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 2: have my choice. It's not like gas stations where you 511 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 2: can drive around and find best best gas price. No, 512 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: your energy bills too much Mike Goldilock's question, too much, 513 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 2: too little or just right? Back on night Side. 514 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray, I'm Boston's news radio. 515 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 2: Okay, back to the phones. Were go going to go 516 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 2: to Lynn in Edinburgh. Lynn, welcome to Night's Side. How 517 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 2: are you? 518 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 4: I'm good? It's Liz Liz. 519 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 2: Okay, it said Lynn, but thank you for that correction. 520 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 2: Liz Liz welcome, go right ahead. 521 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 5: All right, Well, I will say that my bill went up. 522 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 5: It said, I think three eighty two percent. 523 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 4: From last month. 524 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 5: WHOA which is I know it's that's outrageous. 525 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 2: In my book, it's more than outrageous. Lynn that that 526 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 2: that is a killer. Now which bill your electric bill 527 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 2: or your gas bell? 528 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 5: That's the electric thill? 529 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 2: Oh my god? 530 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 4: And yeah it was. 531 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 5: The changes are about three hundred, it said, three hundred 532 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 5: and eighty three higher than the previous bills. 533 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 2: Okay. 534 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 5: And my previous bill was one twenty five and this 535 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 5: one was five or late. 536 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 2: Okay, so that that is all that's that is really 537 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 2: a few started at one twenty five and five. A wait, 538 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 2: that is on that is almost three well eighty percent. 539 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 2: I think your calculation is correct. Wow. 540 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 5: Yes, And the thing Dan, I have solar? 541 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 4: You have? 542 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 2: Oh god? 543 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 4: Okay? 544 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 5: Oh and I'm like, I know and I own my solar. 545 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 5: I heard that, gentleman. Yes, And I almost had sun 546 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 5: run put it on my house in twenty twelve. And 547 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 5: my son said, Mom called dad because we're divorced, and 548 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 5: he said he knows somebody that does solar and he 549 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 5: was a new company at the time. 550 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 2: Good. 551 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 5: But I took out a home equity and bought it. 552 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 2: How much did it cost you to do solar on 553 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 2: your roof? Are you talking? Ten? 554 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 4: All right? Now? 555 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 5: I have a I have a very long house. It's 556 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 5: fifty four feet long. 557 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I. 558 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 5: Think it's called a ten system or something because it 559 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 5: covers the whole the whole back of my house. You 560 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 5: don't even know I have solar because it's on the backside. 561 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 5: And it cost forty two thousand. But when I did 562 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 5: this in twenty twelve, I got ten thousand automatically from 563 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 5: my federal passage. 564 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 4: I got that right back, yeah. 565 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 5: And two thousand for the state. 566 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 2: Right, So now you're out thirty thousand. 567 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 5: Right. But when I did it, they had Zerac points. 568 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 4: So for twelve years. 569 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 5: It was just up until maybe even thirteen years, I 570 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 5: had a company that monitored it, and they took what 571 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 5: I had in solar and sold it. And then I 572 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 5: would get a check quarterly. 573 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 2: How much how much did did did you? Did you 574 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 2: earn every quarter? Approximately? 575 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 5: All right, I'm not it paid for my system? 576 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 2: Oh did it? Okay? So all in all over the time, 577 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 2: you recovered the money that you spent. But now you're 578 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 2: getting bills that are substantially higher. Why did your bill 579 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 2: jump that amount of money? I don't know the answer 580 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 2: to that. 581 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 5: I just got this bill yesterday. So it's funny that. 582 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 5: And I heard them saying that they were going to 583 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 5: do this with money and whatnot, because my Artoba bill 584 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 5: was only ninety two dollars. I don't set with electric. 585 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 3: Yeah I have heat. 586 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, so and that was your electric bill? So did 587 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,959 Speaker 2: you have a lot of Christmas lights up or something? 588 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I don't have an answer 589 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 2: for you. 590 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 4: No. 591 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 2: Oh, well, as I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Will 592 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 2: you do me a favorite and keep listening and maybe 593 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 2: you should call the company and find out what's going on. 594 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure you can read the bill and 595 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 2: kill a one hours are but that sounds to me, Liz, 596 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,719 Speaker 2: like it is insane. It is. It's not just increased, 597 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 2: it's insane, simple as that. 598 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 5: I agree. 599 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 2: I got to get one more in here. Okay, thanks Liz, 600 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 2: keep me posted, will you please, thank you, thank you 601 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,439 Speaker 2: very much. Tim is in Mansfield. Tim, you were next 602 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 2: on night's side. I don't think any top's story. Go 603 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 2: right ahead, Tim, No. 604 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 6: I'm quite the opposite. Actually, I live in Mansfield. It's 605 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,760 Speaker 6: town operated. I would say it's right in the sweet spot. 606 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 6: Those are usually one hundred bucks to somewhere in maybe 607 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 6: two hundred max. 608 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 2: Really, so you feel you were not saying complaining, you're 609 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 2: saying it's just right. 610 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's a fair assessment. Plus it's town run, 611 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 6: which is excellent, you know what I mean. I like 612 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 6: giving back to the town versus these big ones. 613 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 2: Sure well, I've often said the government that governs closest 614 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 2: to you, we'll treat you the best. 615 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 616 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 6: I did have one thing on the solo though, and 617 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 6: I don't know if anybody brought it up, is it 618 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 6: was a fire recently and need them in the fire 619 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 6: department couldn't access the roof because of the solar panels. 620 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. Was that the fire where the young woman died sadly. 621 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 6: Where she passed away? Yes, yeah, just horrible, horrible thing. 622 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 6: But you know a thing in my thought is a 623 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 6: solar thing. It's it's great, but as anybody thought about that, 624 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,879 Speaker 6: you know the implications of that and maybe that part 625 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 6: of the. 626 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 2: Well, like look, anything that you have in your home, 627 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 2: you can have, you know, a problem with anything that 628 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 2: is mechanical in your home, There's no question about that. 629 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 2: That's why you have to make sure that stuff is serviced. 630 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 2: You can't let it fall into disrepair. It's as tough 631 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 2: as it is. I have my heating and you know 632 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 2: air conditioning system, taking care of every sum every fall, 633 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 2: every spring. You gotta do it. It's no fun, but 634 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 2: you gotta do it. 635 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: Wow. 636 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 2: Well, so okay, so you you have a town utility 637 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 2: in Mansfield. I didn't realize that. Good for you. 638 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,479 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's only about i'd say forty to fifty towns left. 639 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 6: They'd probably do it in Massachusetts. 640 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 2: And let me tell you something, those fifty really great. 641 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 2: Those are forty to fifty great communities, that's for sure. 642 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 2: Every one of them do better. And I want to 643 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 2: hear from more of those communities because guess what, that 644 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 2: should be a fact that when people move in, you know, 645 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 2: you want to move in with a good school system 646 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,280 Speaker 2: for your kids. If you have kids, you need to understand. 647 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 2: And most people don't understand. People move into Mansfield and 648 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 2: they they it's a very happy surprise, but they could have, 649 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 2: you know, that moved into some other town and they 650 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 2: missed an opportunity in Mansfield. So that's good for Mansfield 651 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 2: and I'm glad that you're glad you made that point 652 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 2: for us. Thank you, Tim. I appreciate you well. 653 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 6: Like you said, the reason we moved in was a 654 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 6: great school system, and this was just a bonus with 655 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 6: the electricity, so. 656 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 2: Well, maybe they go hand it. Maybe in a town 657 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 2: like Antersphere where the government is doing a good job, 658 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 2: they go hand in hand. Have you called before? Is 659 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 2: this your first time? 660 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 6: Ah, this is my second time. Last time I called, 661 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 6: I was living in Wallpole a few years ago. 662 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 2: But yeah, well do me a favorite. You have a 663 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 2: very thoughtful caller. I'd appreciate it if you call more often. Okay, 664 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 2: thank you so much. 665 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,439 Speaker 6: Appreciate what you do. Dan, have a good night. 666 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 2: Thanks Tim. Here comes the news at eleven. We'll take 667 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 2: a break six one thirty, and we have two lines 668 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 2: at six one, seven, nine thirty. Your utility bill too much, 669 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,439 Speaker 2: too little or just right? That's the question you got 670 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 2: the answers coming back on Night Side.