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Speaker 1: This portion of the Joe Show podcast is powered by

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Speaker 1: Fair and Farah, Tampa Accident Attorneys. Is it day fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen,

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Speaker 1: nineteen twenty, What day is it? Might have to do

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Speaker 1: the math on that Nancy Guthrie is still missing. This

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Speaker 1: news story, this is the way the world works, unfortunately.

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Speaker 1: Is it still the biggest news story in the world. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, though, I don't know. We're hitting that

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Speaker 1: point of the news cycle where maybe things are refreshing

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Speaker 1: and horrible, horrible situation. I hope that that's not the case.

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Speaker 1: I hope that, you know, we continue to put pressure

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Speaker 1: on the FBI and everyone else to find her. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: so Savannah Guthrie from the Today Show or mother kidnapped.

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Speaker 1: No one knows where she is. The investigation changes every day, right,

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Speaker 1: you know, Like at first it was the ring camera

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Speaker 1: deadn't have video footage, and then that comes out a

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Speaker 1: week later and they're trying to break down who this

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Speaker 1: is and the mask and now there's gloves all over Tucson, Arizona.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy one side story that the news

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Speaker 1: isn't really reporting on, and I wonder if they're not

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Speaker 1: reporting on it because it's TMZ who's getting the exclusive letters.

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Speaker 1: But you don't really hear about the letters. If you

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Speaker 1: watch like Fox or CNN, they might cover it for

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Speaker 1: two minutes out of the hour long coverage. They're not

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Speaker 1: really talking about it. So I want to spend a

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Speaker 1: little bit of time right now, and I want to

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Speaker 1: ask the question do we believe these letters? Is this

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Speaker 1: person who's sending these letters legit? My first question is

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Speaker 1: I know that Katie is very aware of all of this.

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Speaker 1: She's been covering it extensively, and we have talked about

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Speaker 1: the letters on our show, Jed. Were you aware of

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Speaker 1: these letters at all? I was not. No, Ashley, I

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Speaker 1: know you weren't either. We talked about it this morning.

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Speaker 1: So let's break down what exactly this is Katie Harvey Levin,

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Speaker 1: GMZ owner and head reporter.

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Speaker 2: So this is the fourth letter the TMZ got got

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Speaker 2: and this was yesterday. This person is claiming to have

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Speaker 2: information on Nancy's whereabouts because he actually saw her with

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Speaker 2: these people. But they're demanding fifty thousand dollars in bitcoin

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Speaker 2: and they want it upfront in exchange for the info.

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Speaker 1: But let's listen in on a couple of these videos.

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Speaker 1: So basically this happens on Twitter. TMZ will tweet out

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Speaker 1: a video of Harvey. He's sitting in front of his desks. He's,

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Speaker 1: you know, Jed, one day you'll have his biceps. Maybe

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Speaker 1: not anytime soon, but you will. And it started. I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to play the first video because it's just

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Speaker 1: kind of like, hey, we just got this letter. I'm

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Speaker 1: not really sure if it's real. This guy is saying

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Speaker 1: that he has information on Nancy Guthrie. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: willing to give it to the FBI. Nothing happens. The

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Speaker 1: next day, TMZ tweets out.

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Speaker 3: This TMZ has obtained a second email from the man

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Speaker 3: who claims to know the identity of Nancy Guthrie's kidnapper.

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Speaker 3: We told you yesterday that this man sent us an

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Speaker 3: email saying that he will reveal the name if he

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Speaker 3: gets one bitcoin. We checked the account all day, he

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Speaker 3: did not receive anything. The account is bear So this morning,

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Speaker 3: just after eight am Pacific time, he sent us this

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Speaker 3: other email, complaining that he is not being taken seriously.

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Speaker 3: He says that he wants the bitcoin, which is worth

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Speaker 3: around sixty seven thousand dollars for several reasons. Number one,

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Speaker 3: he says, by coming forward, he will become a as

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Speaker 3: he puts in, a national rat. He also says, and

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Speaker 3: this is a quote, he doesn't want to be quote

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Speaker 3: incriminated like that guy Carlos. Remember Carlos is the delivery

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Speaker 3: man who was taken into custody a couple of days ago.

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Speaker 3: Briefly he was detained and then released. He says that

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Speaker 3: he fears retaliation if he comes forward. He needs the

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Speaker 3: coming forward.

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Speaker 1: I don't know any women who won bitcoin.

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Speaker 3: A little bit more, and then he talks about a

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Speaker 3: difference between yesterday and today, and we are not going

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Speaker 3: to get specific about what he's talking about. It is

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Speaker 3: chilling what he is insinuating here, but we have told

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Speaker 3: law enforcement we're not going to get specific about that.

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Speaker 3: But he makes it very clear here that this will

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Speaker 3: be his second and last attempt. We have checked.

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Speaker 1: So then he left another He left another note. By

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Speaker 1: the way, he left two more. Yes, you guys want

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Speaker 1: to hear the third letter, now, yeah, let's hear it.

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Speaker 1: What are you thinking now? Though? As we hear that

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Speaker 2: Scam scam scam, This guy's just getting desperate, and he

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Speaker 2: wants the money, and he wants attention.

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Speaker 4: And I also understand where he's coming from, Joe, from

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Speaker 4: the standpoint of if he does give out him the

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Speaker 4: information he is, he is.

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Speaker 1: Going to be the public rat. Well, no, I think

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Speaker 1: it's just someone in their basement just writing letters to TMD.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen to the next probably we're playing right now,

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Speaker 1: Harvey Levin from TMZ reporting on the letters that TMZ

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Speaker 1: is exclusively receiving in regards to Nancy Guthrie and the kidnapping.

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Speaker 1: This man who's writing these notes is claiming he knows

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Speaker 3: TMZ has obtained a third e mail from the man

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Speaker 3: who claims he knows the identity and the location of

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Speaker 3: Nancy Guthrie's kidnapper, and he has now upped his demand.

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Speaker 3: We know it is the same person who wrote the

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Speaker 3: other two notes because the bitcoin address is identical. So

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Speaker 3: he says that he is going through TMZ because he

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Speaker 3: does not trust law enforcement. He's essentially saying, don't trust me,

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Speaker 3: and I don't trust you. What he is suggesting is

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Speaker 3: by the FBI upping the reward to one hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: It was designed to discredit him, He says, quote to

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Speaker 3: discredit me. So what he is saying is he now

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Speaker 3: wants the following. He wants one fraction of a bitcoin

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Speaker 3: worth fifty thousand dollars, and for that, he says, he

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Speaker 3: He says he will not cash that until the kidnapper

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Speaker 1: You've got my word.

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Speaker 3: He expects the second bitcoin fraction another fifty thousand. So

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Speaker 3: he wants the one hundred thousand dollars reward, he says,

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Speaker 3: but he wants it in this form and not simply

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Speaker 3: coming forward to authorities. He has a variety of reasons

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Speaker 3: one of which is interesting. He says, it's because that

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Speaker 3: it could compromise his possible freedom. Now we don't know

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Speaker 3: what that means. Does that mean that.

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Speaker 1: He is what are we thinking now?

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Speaker 4: I mean, now he's doubled.

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Speaker 3: In name of the main individual. He will give up

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Speaker 3: quote the name of the main individual?

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Speaker 1: How about that?

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Speaker 4: He changed it?

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Speaker 1: But no, how about that though, he says the main individual?

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Speaker 1: Ye implying what watching TMZ is they talk about the store.

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Speaker 1: I'm like bro, you alread on this.

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Speaker 3: The main individual. That means, if this is legit, he

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Speaker 1: So he Nancy Guthrie kidnapping. This is audio from TMZ

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Speaker 1: harv Levin TMZ apparently receiving exclusive letters from someone who.

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Speaker 3: Knows does refer to the current state of Nancy Guthrie.

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Speaker 3: We are not going to get into what that is.

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Speaker 3: We have forward this on, forward to this on to

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Speaker 3: the FBI. They asked for it, and we gave it

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Speaker 3: to them. We received this email just before noon Pacific

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Speaker 3: time Friday today. So again the third email, he says,

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Speaker 3: this time, uh, this is it that it's.

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Speaker 1: He left a fourth email. Okay, yes, so leaving it.

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Speaker 1: But what are we thinking now after the thirties. Definitely

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Speaker 1: he knows nothing about what's going on.

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Speaker 4: I think he's I think he's an accomplice in all this.

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Speaker 4: He knows all the details, and he thinks because he's

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Speaker 4: asking for bitcoin, which is a non traceable currency technically speaking,

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Speaker 4: he's gonna be able to get one hundred K out

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Speaker 4: of this and he might be able to fight his

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Speaker 4: way out of prison.

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Speaker 1: This is what we're gonna do. Coming up next, we've

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Speaker 1: got the news. It will be an exclusive report on

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Speaker 1: the fourth Letter. We'll continue to break it down and

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Speaker 1: see eight hundred and four ninety three ninety three. By

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Speaker 1: the way, I'd love for you to call in and

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Speaker 1: tell us what you guys thinks. This is like day

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Speaker 1: seventeen seventeen of not knowing where Nancy Guthrie is. One

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Speaker 1: more time, we'll play the fourth Letter and we'll try

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Speaker 1: to break it down and see this dude legit. This

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