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Speaker 2: Or should we just move on and go forward with

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Speaker 2: We're going to revisit a topic from Thursday's podcast of

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Speaker 2: last week and then move forward. We discussed the case

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Speaker 2: of a guy from Musquigo who it was this year's

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Speaker 2: and Jimiddy busted a finger in pain. The guy's name

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Speaker 2: is who committed the crime is named David Sky. It

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Speaker 2: Reckless driving willin Koitte, intoxicated, operating well intoxicated, two or

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Speaker 2: new judge. His name is Scott Wagner. Do not confuse

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Speaker 2: him with Milwaukee County Judge Jeff Wagner, who is finally retiring.

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Speaker 2: Get a great career on the bench, and he's not

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Speaker 2: new judge from Waukershaw County. He gave him four months.

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Speaker 2: Since we discussed that case, there was a case that

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Speaker 2: similar wrong way intoxication. In the case of Sinclair. This

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Speaker 2: As I say, the crimes are extremely similar. No, two

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Speaker 2: three years. Now, first of all, let's start with this.

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Speaker 2: almost all the judges in Milwaukee County tend to be soft.

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Speaker 2: better off doing it in Waukershaw County than in Milwaukee County. Now,

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Speaker 2: And I don't know that everybody knows this. Do you know?

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Speaker 2: Another good business I should have gone into twenty five

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Speaker 2: The companies that do the towing for a parking lot operators,

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Speaker 2: they don't charge you. They charge you nothing. Why because

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Speaker 2: the fact that many people driving recklessly are not the

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Speaker 2: can't speak for every county. Is you get a ticket,

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Speaker 2: and the ticket carries a fine. There is, unless you're

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Speaker 2: You know what they do if you don't pay your

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Speaker 2: people who aren't registering their cars also aren't licensing themselves

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Speaker 2: I just think it's one of the things that doesn't

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Speaker 2: won't accept you. So there's no point in a police

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Speaker 2: But I'm justsing I should have used you as a

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Speaker 2: just keep saying this. It's like people don't process that.

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Speaker 2: toll the vehicles. This happens in some communities in Milwaukee County,

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Speaker 2: Toe the car. I'm telling you this will work because

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Speaker 2: get license. The people that aren't registered will can register

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Speaker 2: because they don't want to be. And then the cops

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Speaker 2: there's warrants for the driver, and it's kind of sophisticated stuff.

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Speaker 2: You told these people you solve the problem, not solve

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Speaker 2: the problem. You go a long way toward solving the problem.

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Speaker 2: Paul said, you can't. Well, I'm telling you this. I've

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Speaker 2: like I remember when my late lamented sixty eight Camaro convertible,

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Speaker 2: Somebody must have given me a drive home, or somebody

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Speaker 2: All right, speaking of problems, the Democrats in Wisconsin have

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Speaker 2: up in the mainstream media. Mendela Barnes wants to run

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Speaker 2: The Democrats look at Mendela saying, you're the one guy

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Speaker 2: the governorship. Tony Eavers was re elected, beating Kim Michaels.

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Speaker 2: You would wonder why would they do that, And it

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Speaker 2: a shady background. The whole thing. Had a state trooper

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Speaker 2: Well I'll say what it was. He ran an ad

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Speaker 2: Mandela thinks that he's special. He just he's entitled to it.

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Speaker 2: And I almost was a senator. So now I want

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Speaker 2: won't run. They have David Crowley, the Milwaukee County executive.

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Speaker 2: He's running. The last thing he wants is another African

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Speaker 2: dividing that vote. Then you have Sarah Rodriguez, the lieutenant governor.

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Speaker 2: I it's my turn. I'm the lieutenant governor. Tony Evers

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Speaker 2: like five other lefties from Madison Linarosa running. Here's why

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Speaker 2: Mendela wants to run. He does have name recognition, and

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Speaker 2: I know why he has name recognition. It's that first name.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's named after Nelson Mendela, and he's milked

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Speaker 2: there's like seven Democrats going to run. I'm better known

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Speaker 2: nine thirty percent of the vote. Story in jas online.

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Speaker 2: Every Democratic leader in the state is telling him not

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Speaker 2: for a new chapter. Do they make it a clip? Mendela,

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Speaker 2: you had your chance, you blew it. We want somebody else.

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Speaker 2: There's Mendela thinking, I want to be the governor. You

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Speaker 2: can't make me drop out. Now they actually can't make you,

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Speaker 2: but they can induce you. The Democrats for how did

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Speaker 2: to run. She's the Secretary of State. You wanted to

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Speaker 2: run for governor. She's been told you will have the

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Speaker 2: path cleared for the United States Senate in twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: Ron Johnson seat is up again in twenty eight. Sarah

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Speaker 2: god Luski's gonna run for the United States Senate in

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Speaker 2: twenty eight, and the Democratic leaders are going to knock

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Speaker 2: every other Democrat who tries to run for that and

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Speaker 2: say we're giving all of our support to Sarah. The

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Speaker 2: other thing they can do is they can set you

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Speaker 2: up in a nonprofit. They have a zillion of them.

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Speaker 2: All these Democratic organizations that are out there doing community organizing,

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Speaker 2: they're all backed by billionaires. They can give Mendel a

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Speaker 2: big job. And maybe that's all he's updue that he's

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Speaker 2: out there trying to extort and shake them down for

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Speaker 2: some sort of big job and so on. But even

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Speaker 2: a big job like that, it ain't the governor. And

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Speaker 2: he thinks he give me the governor. I'll tell you

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Speaker 2: who wants him to get the Democratic nomination, the Republicans.

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Speaker 2: I have heard through the grapevine that one of the

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Speaker 2: things that is giving Kim Michael's reason to reconsider his

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Speaker 2: decision not to run is he believes that if Mendela

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Speaker 2: Barnes is the candidate, he can win. Now, Tom Tiffany's

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Speaker 2: already in the race, so's Josh Showman, the Washington County executive.

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Speaker 2: But if Barnes gets in, there are going to be

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Speaker 2: other Repubsublicans who want to get in because the Republicans.

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Speaker 2: Republicans are probably up against it in terms of winning

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Speaker 2: the governorship in twenty six unless what unless Mendela Barnes

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Speaker 2: is the Democratic candidate. Let's go to an unfortunate story.

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Speaker 2: One of the just realities of football is because the

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Speaker 2: athletes are too fast, too big, and too strong, the

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Speaker 2: injury tool is savage. And what happened to Tuckercraft is

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Speaker 2: tragedy is too strong of a word, but it's just

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Speaker 2: the devastating blow he has become. I think, I argue

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Speaker 2: he was the best tight end in the National Football League.

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Speaker 2: I think possibly he's the most popular Packer among fans.

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Speaker 2: It was a great story of this guy that grew

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Speaker 2: up in this nowhere town in South Dakota. He played

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Speaker 2: for a Division one FCS team in college, fourth round

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Speaker 2: draft choice and built him into what he is. He

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Speaker 2: the worst thing. It's close to the worst injury. I

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Speaker 2: think a broken leg is worse. But apparently it's a

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Speaker 2: torn ACL. The Packers is of the time of this podcast,

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Speaker 2: have not released that, but it was after the game

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Speaker 2: that the reports were that there what yeah, MRI says

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Speaker 2: it's ACL, right, yeah, yeah. The end Paul said that

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Speaker 2: that just has come out and it was known that

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Speaker 2: that's what it would be. The ACL is a terrible

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Speaker 2: injury because it may end your career. The recovery time

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Speaker 2: is usually it's anywhere from nine to fifteen months. Most

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Speaker 2: people try to make it back in nine to ten.

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Speaker 2: My own belief is is that Tucker Craft should not

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Speaker 2: try to play football until twenty twenty seven. I think

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Speaker 2: that way too many guys come back too early from

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Speaker 2: an ACL. I think you need to give it a

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Speaker 2: year and a half. An example of this would be

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Speaker 2: Jabari Parker of the Bucks, who came back too quickly,

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Speaker 2: and the result is you often put too much pressure

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Speaker 2: on your good knee and he tore the other ACL.

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Speaker 2: Another example of this would be David Bocdieri the Packers,

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Speaker 2: who he tried to come back fifteen different times, and

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Speaker 2: he'd come back a game and he'd have to go

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Speaker 2: back and it just never. It's terrible injury for any athlete,

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Speaker 2: but especially for a football player. But best case scenario,

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Speaker 2: he fully recovers in his back in time for the

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Speaker 2: beginning of next season. But again, even if he is back,

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Speaker 2: will he be the same. It's just a terrible injury.

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Speaker 2: The ACL is for an athlete, the most important of

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Speaker 2: the ligaments in the knee. There's all theseve ligaments, and

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Speaker 2: if you're not an athlete, they all obviously matter. But

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Speaker 2: it's a terrible one and It just happened on a

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Speaker 2: freak injury. He kind of ran into one of his

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Speaker 2: offensive linemen and the offensive lineman was cut blocked by

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Speaker 2: a defender for Carolina. And it was a legal cut block,

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Speaker 2: some of the not a cut block because he was

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Speaker 2: on defense. You can't do a cut block if you're

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Speaker 2: a blocker. You can't go for the legs of a defender.

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Speaker 2: But on the other way, the defender can kind of

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Speaker 2: go toward the legs as they were describing it on TV.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know this rule that what the defender

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Speaker 2: for the Panthers did was legal, but it made Ryan

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Speaker 2: go down and Ryan went down right into Craft and

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Speaker 2: Crafts and thee slammed into Ryan and that's when the

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Speaker 2: ACL But it's just a devastating injury for the Packers.

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Speaker 2: I think that Packers had two great players on their

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Speaker 2: team this year. When I say great, I mean great,

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Speaker 2: and that's Micah Parsons and Tucker Craft. They have several

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Speaker 2: very good players, including Jordan Love, but two great players,

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Speaker 2: and they lost one of the minute's a terrible story

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Speaker 2: for Craft and a terrible story for the Packers. And

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Speaker 2: it's the reality though a football. I mean, these injuries

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Speaker 2: happen all the time. They happen far more frequently they

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Speaker 2: did in the past. It is simply guys are bigger, faster,

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Speaker 2: and stronger. But the ligaments are the same ligaments that

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Speaker 2: we've always had in our bodies. And it's the sad

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Speaker 2: and it's an unfortunate story. And with that we'll take

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Speaker 2: a break. This is the Mark Belling podcast. This is

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Speaker 2: the Mark Belling Podcast. I hope you all saw President

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Speaker 2: Trump on sixty Minutes last night. Probably a lot of

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Speaker 2: people did, because it was on right after the Kansas

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Speaker 2: City Buffalo game, both on CBS. By the way, a

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Speaker 2: quick aside on that the NASCAR Championship race was on

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Speaker 2: right up against the marquee game of the NFL regular

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Speaker 2: season Kansas City and Buffalo. There's some talk in NASCAR

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Speaker 2: finally changing the rules back to perhaps something closer to

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Speaker 2: what they were in the beginning when they didn't have

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Speaker 2: a playoff system for the championship and the past. NASCAR,

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Speaker 2: like most automobile racing series like Formula One and Indie

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Speaker 2: Racing League, they simply add up the points throughout the

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Speaker 2: course of the season, and whoever has the most points

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Speaker 2: at the end of the season is the winner. And

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Speaker 2: when NASCAR had that system was that was when NASCAR

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Speaker 2: exploded in popularity in America. And then the third generation

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Speaker 2: of Francis came in and they decided that stock car

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Speaker 2: racing has to be like football, baseball, and basketball and

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Speaker 2: you have to have playoffs. Well, they're a different sport. It's,

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Speaker 2: first of all, it's not really a team sport. There's

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Speaker 2: teams of two or three or four cars per driver,

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Speaker 2: but it's an individualized sport. And all it did was

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Speaker 2: it watered down all of the other races in this

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Speaker 2: deal where okay, the sixteen drivers advance of the playoffs

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Speaker 2: that if you win a race, you advance to the

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Speaker 2: next and so forth and so on, and then you

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Speaker 2: just last race. There's four cars that have a chance

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Speaker 2: to win the championship, and then thirty five other drivers

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Speaker 2: that are in the race as well. At whichever driver

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Speaker 2: of the four has the highest finish wins the championship.

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Speaker 2: Citing a championship based on it's just so stupid, I

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Speaker 2: should Denny Hamlin is probably the greatest NASCAR driver to

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Speaker 2: ever win a championship. He's leading this race the whole race,

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Speaker 2: and with three laps left, He's up by three seconds,

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Speaker 2: and the track is a short track in Phoenix. Three

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Speaker 2: seconds with three laps left at that track is like

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Speaker 2: being three miles ahead. There's only one way he can

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Speaker 2: lose the race, and that is a yellow flag comes out.

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Speaker 2: If a yellow flag comes out, they have to restart

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Speaker 2: the race, and the second place driver is right next

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Speaker 2: to him. In addition to that, the whole race, everybody

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Speaker 2: was having tire trouble, So all the drivers come in

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Speaker 2: for tire changes. You're changing tires just to run two

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Speaker 2: laps because when they restart there's only two laps left.

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Speaker 2: Every driver that went into the pits changed two tires.

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Speaker 2: Hamlin's team changed all four because they changed all four.

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Speaker 2: He came out of the pits not in first but

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Speaker 2: in tent, and all said, why did I was watching

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Speaker 2: to see I get the whole thing. That handling and

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Speaker 2: tires is important, even for two laps. I'm watching this second.

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Speaker 2: Are you nuts? He's got the best car. Just make

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Speaker 2: sure he's still in position. He'll run away from the field.

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Speaker 2: He said he thought it was the right decision. The

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Speaker 2: I'm brain farting here, I'm trying to think of the

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Speaker 2: Kyle Larson Kyle Larson in the five car who there's

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Speaker 2: five spectacular drivers in NASCAR. Kyle Larson's one of them,

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Speaker 2: to Hamlt's another. Kyle Larson's team. He drives for Rick

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Speaker 2: hen And the three great teams in NASCAR are Joe Gibbs,

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Speaker 2: that's the old football coach. That's Denny Hamlin's team, Kyle

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Speaker 2: Larson drives for Rick Hendrick, and the third one is

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Speaker 2: Penske and the Penske team I think has won the

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Speaker 2: last two championships. In this case, the Joe Gibbs teams

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Speaker 2: made the decision to have their driver take four tires.

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Speaker 2: Everybody else took two, and Kyle Larson didn't win the race,

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Speaker 2: but he finished ahead of Denny Hamlin, who couldn't having

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Speaker 2: the four tires was not enough for him to be

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Speaker 2: able to make up any ground. Just it was a

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Speaker 2: stupid decision, and I thought it was. No, I can't

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Speaker 2: prove that it was. I thought it was a stupid decision.

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting there watching it by myself in my living room,

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Speaker 2: but I thought it was a stupid decision, and it

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Speaker 2: was a stupid decision anyway. Trump's interview in sixty minutes.

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Speaker 2: That's where this all started. Remember that, I'm just telling

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Speaker 2: you Trump is at the top of his game right now.

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Speaker 2: It was the same kind of interview that he always gets,

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Speaker 2: a hostile interview. Remember, CBS is under new ownership now, Paramount,

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Speaker 2: and Paramount's chairman David Ellison has made it clear that

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Speaker 2: he wants his bias at CBS News to end. So

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Speaker 2: it wasn't a hatchet job interview. What it was is

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Speaker 2: Nora O'Donnell's sitting there asking stern questions.

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Speaker 3: I'm just.

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Speaker 2: I don't know this. Everybody who interviews Trump has the

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Speaker 2: same thing, this stern demeanor. I don't know what these

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Speaker 2: people think is attractive of well being in television, being

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Speaker 2: stern and angry, because the work is the same. Watch

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Speaker 2: anybody who's successful doing a podcast, the podcasts that are

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Speaker 2: they're all smiling and laughing and so on. I'm not

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Speaker 2: a video podcaster here, but I'm smiling and laughing. She

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Speaker 2: was there. She was doing it because she knows she

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Speaker 2: had to do it, and she knew that she couldn't

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Speaker 2: be over the hearsh so she just tried to ask

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Speaker 2: these direct, hostile, appointed questions. But the Trump got Trump.

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Speaker 2: Trump got his answers out clearly on each of these,

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Speaker 2: and he knew the environment. In the past, Trump rambled

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Speaker 2: when he was doing interviews, bing bang bang, bang bang.

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Speaker 2: He's gotten so much better at this. His whole second

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Speaker 2: term is better than the first term and the communication

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Speaker 2: of it. There's one particular issue, and it's tied to

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Speaker 2: another that I want to focus on here, and that

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Speaker 2: is Obamacare. Obamacare is linked to the government shutdown. The

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Speaker 2: Democrats are demanding that in the reconciliation bill that we

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Speaker 2: passed to end the shutdown, that they continue the subsidies

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Speaker 2: for Obamacare. Obamacare, as those of us were arguing at

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Speaker 2: the time that it passed a decade ago, ten eleven

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Speaker 2: years ago, Obamacare financially did not add up. So what

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Speaker 2: they did is they put in enormous subsidies to reduce

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Speaker 2: the costs of the premiums. But they put a drop

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Speaker 2: dead data on them, which was ten years. And from

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Speaker 2: the perspective of the Democrats at Obama when they passed it,

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Speaker 2: we care about ten years down the line. We just

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Speaker 2: want to get this thing through. If they would not

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Speaker 2: have put the deadline, and you know, when the Congressional

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Speaker 2: Budget Office scores that they hadn't costs even more, remember

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Speaker 2: Nancy Pelosi's we won't know what's in it until we

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Speaker 2: pass it. Well, they did know this, it didn't add up.

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Speaker 2: So what happens is Obamacare's policies and Obamacare is when

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Speaker 2: people are on the exchanges that's Obamacare, they buy these

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Speaker 2: policies that have very very high deductibles, meaning their insurance

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Speaker 2: doesn't kick in until they meet the deductible, and they

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Speaker 2: pay a premium that is moderately expensive. It's not a

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Speaker 2: great insurance plan if you're somebody that is goes the

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Speaker 2: doctor a lot or has illness issues. If you never

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Speaker 2: go to the doctor, what do you care if you

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Speaker 2: have a high deductible. The reason, however, that the premiums

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Speaker 2: don't cost fifteen arms in a leg is because these

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Speaker 2: subsidies and well the subsidies are now expiring, and it

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00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 2: means that the government has to spend in order to

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Speaker 2: keep these subsidies in place, a massive amount of money.

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Speaker 2: And they're trying to claim that Trump has to fix

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00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 2: this problem, that Obama and there isn't one republic and

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Speaker 2: who voted for Obamacare. You'll recall it got through the

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Speaker 2: House and the Senate only with Democratic votes, and it

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00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: was a Domin's plan. It was the time. It was

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00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 2: that period of which at Obama's first turned they had

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Speaker 2: the House and the Senate and the White House. So

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Speaker 2: they created this train wreck. And now they're saying the

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00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: Republicans have to solve it. But Obama, would you say,

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Speaker 2: you keep your eye Well, we know all of that

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00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 2: is unproved. The majority of people on the exchanges have

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Speaker 2: different got us stant In here. This is a piece

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Speaker 2: from just thenews dot com and I'm just going to

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Speaker 2: quote from it. Expert says when he said, if you

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Speaker 2: like your health care plan, you can keep your health

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Speaker 2: care plan. No, you couldn't. Obamacare made a lot of

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Speaker 2: the health those healthcare plans illegal. Let me interject. You

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Speaker 2: may recall that before Obamacare, you could drop a healthcare

666
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: plan that said anything. Obamacare was one size hits all.

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Speaker 2: They all have to cover all of these things, and

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Speaker 2: that meant that the plans are very, very expensive. I mean,

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Speaker 2: a single guy who bought a healthcare plan had a

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Speaker 2: pregnancy coverage in all of that. Other infirmities of ACA

671
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 2: have been laid out late have been laid out, including

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00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 2: nebulous allegations of fraud. After years of Democrats telling the

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Speaker 2: American people the former president of Barack Obama's Affordable Care

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Speaker 2: Act was a thriving system. The glaring truth revealed now

675
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: during the government shutdown is that not only has the

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Speaker 2: ACA resulted in widespread fraud and allegation of kickbacks to

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Speaker 2: insurance companies, the American people are footing the bill for

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Speaker 2: subsidies to hide the fact that Obamacare is broken. Go

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Speaker 2: on to the days of family doctors operating private practices.

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Speaker 2: Let me pause. How many of you have a family

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Speaker 2: doctor and a private practice. I don't, do you they

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Speaker 2: all work for one of the big healthcare systems, Aurora

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Speaker 2: or all the various names they're all. When I say all,

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Speaker 2: it's not all, it's almost all. The independent physicians, the

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Speaker 2: just private clinics not hooked up with anybody, are almost

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Speaker 2: non existent. Back to the discussion here of this, goana

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Speaker 2: the days of family doctors operating private practices. Based on

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Speaker 2: the most recent data from the American Calessos, practice medicine

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Speaker 2: fully independently, not owned or affiliated with hospitals, health systems,

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Speaker 2: private equity or insurers make up roughly forty two to

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Speaker 2: forty seven percent of all practicing physicians as of twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four. Let me inter check. The ones that are

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Speaker 2: a dependent are often specialists, for example, a lot of

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Speaker 2: psychiatrists and physicians and specialty fields. A lot of the

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Speaker 2: radiologists have their own, but in terms of the primary care,

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Speaker 2: they're almost all hooked into a system, according to the

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Speaker 2: Advisory Board twenty twenty three data showing more than seventy

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Speaker 2: seven percent of physicians are employees of hospitals, health systems

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Speaker 2: or other corporate entities, citing a report from Physicians Advocacy Institute.

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Speaker 2: All right, so Obamacare has created all of that, and

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Speaker 2: it's one of the overhangs behind the government shutdown. Trump

702
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: was asked about this because Norodonald's say, look, if you

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Speaker 2: don't change your plan to bail out obama Care, in

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Speaker 2: other words, continue these subsidies, all these people are going

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Speaker 2: to see massive increases in their premiums. Now before I

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00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: play you, Trump's answer is very short. I do think

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Speaker 2: the Republicans have to step in here. Let me just

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00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 2: start with this, what do you think is on Obamacare?

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Speaker 2: I think I asked this on Thursday's podcast, didn't I Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask it again. Who do you think is

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00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 2: that Obamacare it's more Trump voters than not. Obamacare is

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00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: not Medicaid. First of all, Medicare is senior citizens. Medicaid

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00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 2: is poor people. The people on the exchanges are generally

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Speaker 2: lord of middle income to sometimes middle income people for

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Speaker 2: whom they don't have a private healthcare plan available from

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Speaker 2: their work. The realignment of American politics Trump thrived. That's

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00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 2: a huge segment of this is the Maga cron Secondly,

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00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 2: it's not these people's fault that we passed Obamacare and

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00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 2: created this thing with this massive subsidy and forced them

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Speaker 2: to buy overly expensive plans. They can't buy a cheap

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Speaker 2: ole plan because it's not legal to sell them under Obamacare.

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Speaker 2: It's a terrible hidship for these people if we're gonna

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Speaker 2: explode their health insurance costs. So I think that the

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Speaker 2: Republicans do have to stay in and do something. But

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Speaker 2: Trump's point, and it's my point, is that's separate from

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Speaker 2: the government shutdown. No, here's Trump and you'll hear Nouro

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Speaker 2: Donaldleft CBS kind of butting in on the answer. But

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Speaker 2: I think he's trying to get home his point because

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Speaker 2: the Democrats are trying to say that again. You know,

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Speaker 2: It's just like the old line used to be, the

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Speaker 2: Republicans are trying to kill your social Security, the Republicans are

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Speaker 2: taking away your Medicare and so on. And know they're

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Speaker 2: trying to argue that Republicans are trying to take away

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Speaker 2: your Obamacare. Here's Trump's response.

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Speaker 3: Obamacare is terrible. It's bad healthcare at far too high

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Speaker 3: a price. We should fix that. We should fix it,

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Speaker 3: and we can fix it with the Democrats. All they

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Speaker 3: have to do is let the country open and we'll

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Speaker 3: fix it.

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Speaker 2: They have to lend the country open.

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Speaker 3: And I'll sit down with the Democrats and we'll fix it.

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Speaker 3: But they have to let the country and.

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Speaker 1: You know what they have to do.

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Speaker 2: All they have to do is raise five hands. We

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Speaker 2: don't need all of them. First of all, twenty four seconds,

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00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: he banged the whole thing. We just need to get

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Speaker 2: five more Democrats to vote to reopen the government. And

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Speaker 2: then Trump said, look, then I'll work with the Democrats,

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Speaker 2: will come up with the compromise bill to keep some

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Speaker 2: of these subsidies that are in place. And I think

751
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 2: that part of it is going to be they want

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00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 2: the Republicans want to reform Obamacare to bring back some

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Speaker 2: cheap old plans that don't cover everything, so you get

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Speaker 2: rid of the one size fits all, etc. The insurance companies.

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Speaker 2: And again when the Democratic Party just decided that they

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Speaker 2: were going to align themselves with the insurance companies, is

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Speaker 2: what I think that the Democrats just permanently changed. You

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00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 2: see it with regard to vaccine policy had happened all

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00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: the way through COVID. The insurance companies make a fortune

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Speaker 2: off of Obamacare, a fortune because the government is subsidizing

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Speaker 2: the premiums. Imagine in a business in which you're requiring

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Speaker 2: everybody to buy your product and the government is going

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Speaker 2: to pay most of the money that the product costs.

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Speaker 2: It's a glorious system for them. And I think that

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Speaker 2: Trump and the Republicans will be open to reforming Obamacare

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Speaker 2: with Republican votes in some Democratic votes. But you can't

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Speaker 2: do all of this, well, the government is shut down

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00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 2: because it's all these other things included. We don't know

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Speaker 2: if snap, if the food stamp program and so on

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Speaker 2: is going to be funded, and so on. And I

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Speaker 2: thought that Trump did an extremely effective job and getting

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Speaker 2: his point through in that answer, despite the fact that

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Speaker 2: Norah O'Donnell was you know hellbend in not letting him

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Speaker 2: get in the answer. The one thing you could tell though,

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00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 2: is that she was told you can't cut him off.

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Speaker 2: She was trying to cut him off. But once Trump

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Speaker 2: just persisted plowing through this, he got through what he

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Speaker 2: got his point he asked on a number of other things.

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Speaker 2: I want to quickly cover some of his points on

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Speaker 2: illegal immigration, the policy has to be you came into

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Speaker 2: the country illegally, you're going to go out. However, you've

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00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 2: also seen you're going to go out, We're going to

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00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 2: work with you, and you're going to come back into

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00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 2: our country legally. And again that's the answer for all

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Speaker 2: these deportations. If you're not somebody who was a criminal

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Speaker 2: in terms of breaking other laws, you get kicked out

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Speaker 2: of the country, and then you say, stand in line

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Speaker 2: and reapply to come in through the front door as

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00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 2: you ought to on the next three years. We have

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00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 2: been acknowledged as having the greatest nine months in the

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00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 2: history of the presidency. So if I can keep that going,

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Speaker 2: I'll be very happy. On the Supreme Court's tariff case.

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Speaker 2: Because of Tiras, we have the highest stock market we've

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Speaker 2: ever had. Because of Tara's four oh, one k's are

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Speaker 2: at their highest level, and this is millions of people

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Speaker 2: than we've ever had. I think it's the most important

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00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 2: subject discussed by the Supreme Court in one hundred years.

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Speaker 2: He's right about that second point. Does the president have

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Speaker 2: the ability to put in place tariffs without the approval

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Speaker 2: of the Congress. The Constitution in fact doesn't say anything

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Speaker 2: about imposition of tariffs and who does it? It just

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00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 2: it's unclear. The Constitution makes it clear the president has

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Speaker 2: the ability to make foreign policy. Declaration of war can

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00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 2: only be done by the Congress. All of these things

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00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 2: are vague. I do believe that without regard to who

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00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 2: the president is, a Democratic president and Republican president, it

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00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 2: has to be the decision of the president to do

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Speaker 2: tariff decisions, simply because in a negotiation, you can't go

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Speaker 2: back to the Congress every time one say, you know, okay,

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00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,959
Speaker 2: China says twelve percent, we say eight percent. You can't

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Speaker 2: keep passing a bill for your negotiating position. It's got

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00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 2: to be a part of the executive branch decision. The

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Speaker 2: one thing I will say about Trump is I would

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Speaker 2: advise him to stop crowing about the stock market, because

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00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 2: while indeed it has roared. It also roared during Biden.

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Speaker 2: And my own belief is that the stock market is

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00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 2: unbelievably overvalued. Now the thing about overvalued is it can

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Speaker 2: get even more of it. We saw this with the

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Speaker 2: housing market. Things that are way too high can get

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Speaker 2: way too higher. But I just look at this as

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Speaker 2: maybe a fuddy duddy, and I look at the price

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Speaker 2: earnings ratios of some of these companies, and the AI

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00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 2: company strike me as they are in a bubble. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if AI turns out to be the thing that changes

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00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 2: the world, as may well it could be, then the

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Speaker 2: stocks are properly valued. But that doesn't mean that every

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Speaker 2: one of these companies is going to be successful and

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Speaker 2: it's AI initiate. If it's also possible that it will

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Speaker 2: be years before the profits ever match all the investment

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Speaker 2: that they have coming in. So I think the stock

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Speaker 2: markets do for a recketing, and I think a significant pullback.

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Speaker 2: But again I get me wrong. But the problem with

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Speaker 2: bragging about the stock market is is that stock market

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Speaker 2: has always done two things in its history. It's gone

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00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 2: up and it's gone down. Over the long haul, it

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00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 2: keeps going up, but there are terrible downturns in between,

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Speaker 2: and the lefties will just pounce on him if it

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00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 2: goes down and blame him for the downturn, even though

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Speaker 2: they never gave him any credit for the time that

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Speaker 2: it went up. Another quick point here, this story might

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Speaker 2: have been lost of the shuffle, lost in the shuffle,

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Speaker 2: not under the shovel. Well, you can do it under

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Speaker 2: the shovel. That's not what the mob was doing in

844
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Speaker 2: those crooked card games in which John C. Willis is involved.

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Speaker 2: Those are card readers, as I understand it. For some reason,

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Speaker 2: I know about a lot about scams, even though I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't be any good at them. See, I could never

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Speaker 2: be going at cheating at cards because my fingers are

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Speaker 2: too fat. When I see these guys that are, you know,

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Speaker 2: dealing from the third card of the deck and so on,

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Speaker 2: I have enough time just getting them out on the

852
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 2: top card of the deck. The card reader thing, though,

853
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 2: I get that you put on these glasses in which

854
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 2: you can see through the card and so on, and

855
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 2: that's that's what they were doing and doing in that.

856
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 2: But do I have to explain again? People keep emailing

857
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 2: me on this because I keep trying to explain. In

858
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 2: the famous scene from this thing, the best scene of

859
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 2: this thing when the card game thing were, how did

860
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 2: Paul Newman switch the threes to the jacks? It's what

861
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,720
Speaker 2: just I said this, Hey, you've already forgotten it, haven't,

862
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 2: haven't you when he switched the cards. When he switched

863
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 2: the cards, No, it was in his pocket when he

864
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 2: went reaches to get the lighter out of the pocket,

865
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 2: that's where the cards are. Go back and watch that scene.

866
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 2: It's got like ninety five quintrillion views on YouTube. I

867
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 2: think that may be the greatest movie scene of all time,

868
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 2: don't you. You can hear the review of the train

869
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 2: tracks running and a little bit of the horn blowing

870
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 2: in the background, and just the reaction shots from the

871
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 2: other actors, plus the unbelievable you're talking in that scene.

872
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 2: Robert Shaw was just there's a great line, by the way,

873
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 2: there's a great line about Robert Shaw being taken by

874
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 2: Paul Newman in that scene. Back to back epic movies.

875
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 2: Robert Shaw got eaten by a shark. The next movie

876
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 2: it was Jaws. Jaws was right out. It was either

877
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 2: the other way around. I think it was. It was

878
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 2: this thing before Jows. But Card Show, I just, well, yeah,

879
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 2: that was the guy that set the deck and anyway,

880
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 2: it's at the beginning in the movie, so it's not

881
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 2: a spoiler giveaway. It was the setup for the remainder

882
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 2: of this thing. Is one of the great American pictures

883
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 2: in there. But when he switches the cards and it

884
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 2: was just George roy Hill was the director, and it

885
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 2: was just a spectacular correctorial scene. The music's Scott Joplin's music,

886
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 2: which was adapted by Marvin Hamleysh. It was Scott John's

887
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 2: Joplin's music and my Harvin Hamlich did the adaptation and

888
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 2: just all of that in that scene on the train

889
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 2: with the poker game, and you could smell the cigar

890
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 2: or smoke in the ear and Newman's pretending that he's drunk,

891
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 2: and the facial reactions of Shaw and the way it

892
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 2: is just the spectacular same. But he switches the cards

893
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 2: when he reaches into his pocket for the lighter, and

894
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 2: they make they do it. The director does make a

895
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 2: big deal of showing not a big deal because they

896
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 2: didn't want to give it away. He made a big

897
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 2: enough deal of the fact that Newman ReLit the cigar

898
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 2: during the middle of that hand and the relighting of

899
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 2: the cigar was the reason he had to reach into

900
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 2: his pocket to get the lighter, and that's where the

901
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 2: four cards were shifted. And why do you know? I've

902
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 2: also had people ask you why did you do jacks?

903
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 2: How did you know that? You know? Shaw wasn't cheating

904
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 2: And earlier in the movie, in the setup, they say

905
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 2: that's what he does. That was part of the research

906
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 2: that they had done that he's going to swap out

907
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 2: his cards and give himself nines. So he knew that

908
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: it had to be higher than the nights. It's a

909
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 2: lot of time explaining something there wasn't it. Sales came

910
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 2: up with Lost in the Shuffle. I think lost out

911
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 2: of the Shuffle. The leader of Canada, Mark Kearney, is

912
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 2: apologizing for that anti tariff ad that ran on football

913
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 2: in World Series game Baseball games two weeks ago and

914
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 2: then last weekend. The ad was run by the government

915
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,720
Speaker 2: of the Canadian province of Ontario and it was ripping Trump.

916
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 2: Canada is trying to suck up to Trump because Trump

917
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 2: immediately retaliated with more tariffs. The thing with the Canadian

918
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 2: American battle on tariff, say, is Trump is the upferhand.

919
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 2: There's way more the America. Canada needs American trade more

920
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 2: than we need Canadian trade. Canada's tried to talk tough

921
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 2: with regard to this, but they poke this finger in

922
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 2: Trump's eyb by running this quote from Reagan and so on. Well,

923
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 2: Carney's trying to claim this wasn't the Canadian government was

924
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 2: the government of one state, be like of Trump, and

925
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 2: you could see this. Suppose California runs some stupid ad.

926
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 2: Trump could say, that's California, We apologize for that. The

927
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 2: difference here is is that the government of Ontario and

928
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 2: the Canadian government, Carney, they're both members of the Liberal Party.

929
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 2: It's the same government ad. I think Carney is just

930
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 2: trying to make it up to Trump after they The

931
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,760
Speaker 2: one thing you don't want to do is provoke Trump unnecessarily.

932
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 2: Sometimes his adversaries will provoke him necessarily. That's the game

933
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 2: Putin's trying to play. But there's no point in provoking

934
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,720
Speaker 2: Trump unnecessarily because Trump has made it very very clear

935
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 2: that no matter how hard you hit him, he's going

936
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 2: to hit you back even harder. Some of you may

937
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 2: have followed the fact that the best race source im

938
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 2: own special wand ran over the weekend on the undercard

939
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 2: of the Breeders Cup undercard, and she was not int

940
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 2: a Breeders Cup race, but she ran at del Mar

941
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 2: in the final race Saturday before the Breeders' Cup races started.

942
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 2: It was a Grade three stakes and probably ran the

943
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 2: best race of her career, and we posted it on x.

944
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 2: It was just it was as dominant a performance as

945
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 2: you can imagine. And sometimes a dirt races the horse

946
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 2: will run up by twenty five links and so on.

947
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 2: Turf racing is different. But she sat second and just

948
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 2: went to the lead, even though the jockey was restraining

949
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 2: her and trying to have her not go too fast

950
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 2: too early. She did it all on her own and

951
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 2: ran away and hid. She is. Today's a big day

952
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 2: for me. She is up for auction this evening. The

953
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 2: big sale of the fall is the face of Tipton

954
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 2: Sail in Kentucky, and she does go onto the auction block.

955
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 2: So the timing of a spectacular race is just perfect.

956
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 2: And anyone who buys her could retire her and breed her,

957
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 2: or they could buy her and continue to race it

958
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 2: for another year. Given the fact that she's gotten way better,

959
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 2: the one thing she hasn't done is win a Grade one.

960
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 2: She won three grade threes this year, and this was

961
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 2: a Grade three. She only ran in one Grade one

962
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 2: and she finished third in that, but she does so

963
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 2: she does go on to the auction hammer tonight, along

964
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 2: with another horse that I own. There is a thing

965
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 2: called the reserve, and I can't tell you what it is.

966
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 2: But if we don't get our price, she won't sell.

967
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 2: And it's kind of a win win situation because she's

968
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 2: so good that it would be a great thing to

969
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 2: continue to own and race her. But if we do

970
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 2: get a strong, solid price for her based on what

971
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 2: we think that she's worth, and we take the money,

972
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 2: and so well. You can bid online, but there's a

973
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 2: lot of the big ones are in person, but many

974
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 2: bidders are online and they're or on the phone with

975
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 2: a bitter in place, or they'll do it online and

976
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 2: they're texting somebody from the thing. The majority of the

977
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 2: bidders are there, but some of the big foreigners are not.

978
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 2: But in this particular watch it is live with the

979
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 2: people in there doing it and so on. But there

980
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 2: are others that are bidding remotely with someone in the

981
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 2: room bidding on their behalf. Then obviously it's a great

982
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 2: secret as to what the reserve would be that we have,

983
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,040
Speaker 2: but very very thrilled with all will she did and

984
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 2: no matter which way it goes, it would I mean,

985
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 2: if we sell her, I hope it's for a wamping

986
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 2: incredible price. But if we don't sell her, got an

987
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 2: extremely good female resource. This is the Mark Belling podcast.

988
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 2: This is the Mark Belling podcast. This just was announced

989
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 2: today and I'm doing the podcast then Monday afternoon, just

990
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 2: announce it. The Brewers have announced the date and time

991
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 2: for opening day next year, March twenty six, one ten pm.

992
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 2: The White six March twenty six. It gets earlier and earlier.

993
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 2: There's just one thing to say about this, Paul. It's

994
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 2: a good dog. One thing. We have a rough March

995
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 2: twenty six. You imagine that thing being played, and there

996
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 2: are going to be I mean, everybody opens within a

997
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 2: day of one another. They're going to be other teams

998
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 2: in cold weather cities where they're going to be playing

999
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 2: baseball in March twenty six. Last this past year's all

1000
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 2: I think was later in the afternoon. I don't know

1001
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 2: if it's connected, but I do I do wonder if

1002
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 2: the fact that the opponent is the White Sox has

1003
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,240
Speaker 2: them starting at one ten because my three ten White

1004
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 2: Sox fans are going to be so I mean, Brewer

1005
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 2: fans are bombed too, but White Sox fans have a

1006
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 2: capacity for drinking not match. You know, the Cubs fans

1007
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 2: come up here and they're the pain in the butt

1008
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 2: that they were. But back in the oldiest and the

1009
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 2: ruwers in the American League, white Sox fans came up here.

1010
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 2: I mean there were fights all the time. The White

1011
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 2: Sox have been so terrible forever though that I don't

1012
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 2: know that they'd have any o their fans coming up

1013
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,919
Speaker 2: to watch them play. And plus it's their fan base

1014
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 2: is small, and then they're on the South side of Chicago.

1015
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 2: Most of their face. You know, the Cubs have a

1016
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 2: zillion fans in southern Wisconsin, but not so much White Sox. Anyway,

1017
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 2: March twenty six, or to the Thursday is Opening day

1018
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 2: for the Brewers. Other Brewers news, they did announce the

1019
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 2: gold Glove winners. That's the best fielder at each position.

1020
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 2: That was last night, and they do separate for the

1021
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 2: America in the National League, not one Brewer when a

1022
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 2: gold Glove. I'm just the Brewers had the best fielding

1023
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 2: team in baseball, and maybe the best fielding team that

1024
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 2: I've ever seen. Every single Brewer defensive player was outstanding,

1025
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 2: every single one. There wasn't a defender that they had

1026
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 2: on the team who wasn't good, and several that were brilliant,

1027
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 2: and not one of them won. They had two Brewers

1028
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 2: who one go gloves in the past, and neither one.

1029
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 2: There's nobody who. I can't say I watch every team's

1030
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 2: fielder in each position that closely, but r in the

1031
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 2: nation of the league them. You know what's really revolting.

1032
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 2: Three cups won Get Me Up Break, including two of

1033
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 2: them one at positions in which the Brewer Nico Horner,

1034
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 2: beat out Bryce to Rang at second base. Should I

1035
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 2: remind people of Nico Horner committing a terrible error in

1036
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 2: the playoffs against the Brewers in a series that we

1037
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 2: beat them. The right field, I mean Sal Freeley plays

1038
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 2: right field usually you know right fielder is not a

1039
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 2: good field that the Brewers have a unique situation with

1040
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 2: all of their other field there so good that sales

1041
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 2: over there on right field. He did not win in

1042
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 2: right field. Fernando Tatis Junior, the podres one, the center

1043
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 2: fielder is Pete crow Armstrong now here the Brewers. Blake

1044
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 2: Perkins is the best center fielder I think in baseball,

1045
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 2: but he played very little. He was out most of

1046
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 2: the year. Jackson Churio played the position brilliantly before he

1047
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,919
Speaker 2: came back, so I can get that the Brewer didn't

1048
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 2: win it because nobody really held on that position all year.

1049
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 2: Then Ian a half of the Cubs. He wins in

1050
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 2: left field. So I mean and again, Churio played left

1051
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 2: field and center field, and we had the other part

1052
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 2: of the season in left field, Isaac Collins, I mean,

1053
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 2: Isaac Collins played great in left field defensively as well,

1054
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 2: but he wasn't a full time left fielder. Patrick Bailey

1055
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 2: of the Giants, I admit I don't know anything about him,

1056
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 2: but I can't see how anybody could have been a

1057
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 2: better defensive catcher than William Catreroz. So the Brewer, you know,

1058
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 2: Joey Ortiz was brilliant at shortstop. Mason win of the

1059
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 2: Cardinals won it there. So the Brewers didn't have a

1060
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 2: single guy to win a Gold Glove. Baseball season did

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Speaker 2: end Saturday night. The World Series isn't what it used

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Speaker 2: to be because the playoffs go on so long, but

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Speaker 2: I will say this that was one of the greatest

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Speaker 2: baseball games of all time. First of all, it's game seven,

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Speaker 2: which means, you know, do or die, winner, take all

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Speaker 2: five to four. The Dodgers beat the Blue Jays. The

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Speaker 2: Dodgers were down by a run with one out in

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Speaker 2: the top of the ninth inning, hit a home run

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Speaker 2: off the blue Jays closer. The blue Jays bullpen wasn't

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Speaker 2: very good all year to tie the game. A lot

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Speaker 2: of people are talking about and I want to make

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Speaker 2: this point here, and it's how I end the podcast.

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Speaker 2: I just keep explaining all the time in every sport

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Speaker 2: that it is it takes an incredible amount of luck

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Speaker 2: and the whole game of inches thing. When the Bocks

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Speaker 2: won the NBA Championship now four years ago, some people

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Speaker 2: forget that if Kevin Durant's toe was not on the

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01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 2: three point line in Game series of the Eastern Conference Semifinals,

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Speaker 2: Durant hit what should have been a three point shot

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Speaker 2: to win the game. Upon replay, I'm telling you less

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Speaker 2: than an inch of his toe was on the line

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Speaker 2: and it was only a two. The Bucks went in overtime,

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Speaker 2: went on to win the next two series, and won

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Speaker 2: the NBA Championship Game of inches. There was a play

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Speaker 2: in the much debated now that could have resulted in

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Speaker 2: the World Series being decided on an instant replay. The

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01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 2: Blue Jays had the winning run on third base. There

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01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 2: was a ball that was hit to the Dodgers second baseman,

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Speaker 2: who ended up hitting game winning homer, But prior to that,

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01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 2: the ball was hit to the Dodger second basemen. The

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Speaker 2: infield is in because they have to throw to the

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Speaker 2: plate to stop the winning run from scoring, and the Dodgers'

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01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 2: second basement kind of he was off ballance when he

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01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 2: got the ball, it had a hard time getting rid

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01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 2: of it. The guy that was on third base for

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01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 2: the Blue Jays kind of Felifa did not have much

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01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 2: of a lead. This is just being discussed right and left.

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Speaker 2: Why when you're the winning run don't you have a

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01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 2: huge lead in The Blue Jay had been playing it

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01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 2: that way all year. They didn't want him doubled off

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01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 2: a third of a line drive. As a result, he

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01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 2: got a slower break on the ball than he might

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01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 2: have otherwise gotten. So they throw the paw to the plate.

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Speaker 2: It's bang, bang, and the umpire calls him out upon

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01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 2: replay the game of inches. The Dodgers catcher Will Smith,

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Speaker 2: in reaching for the throw, lifts his foot off the

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01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 2: plate just a little bit as he's straining, and then

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01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 2: of course your foot comes down. The replay he got

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Speaker 2: the foot back down and contacted the plate tenth of

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Speaker 2: a second before kind of Felifa got home. But if

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Speaker 2: he hadn't, the replay would have overturned it and you

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01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 2: would have had games. The Baseball's worldteries decided on a replay,

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Speaker 2: which would have been debated as well. I don't think

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Speaker 2: anybody would have wanted that so for and the homeplate

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Speaker 2: umpire got the call correctly live, but I don't even

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Speaker 2: think that he would have known that the foot came

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Speaker 2: both up and down when it happened. Well, and just

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Speaker 2: as just saying it just it just shows you the

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Speaker 2: game of inches, you know. Component of of this, There

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Speaker 2: were several other things that happened during the game in

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Speaker 2: which the Blue Jays could have won. Dodgers managed to

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Speaker 2: homer to tie it in the ninth in and would

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Speaker 2: go ahead in the tenth, and the Blue Jays had

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Speaker 2: a chance to score on the tenth and they didn't.

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Speaker 2: And the other great story about the game is Yamamoto,

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Speaker 2: Yoshinobul Yamamoto, the other Asian American Dodger pitcher, not Shohei Otani,

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01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 2: who's been brilliant throughout the postseason. He did one of

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Speaker 2: those things that just isn't done anymore. In fact, it's

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Speaker 2: hardly ever been done. He won Game six as a

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Speaker 2: starter and came in and got the final eight outs

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Speaker 2: of the game in Game seven functioning as the closer.

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Speaker 2: So after going I think he threw like ninety six

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Speaker 2: pitches the day before he came in and got the

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Speaker 2: last eight outs. He's just you know, teams don't like

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Speaker 2: to use their closers and back to back nights much late,

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01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 2: and they don't like to use the closer more than

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Speaker 2: as a game said, well they went, they used whatever

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Speaker 2: other start is. They took Blake Snell out of the bullten.

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Speaker 2: He's the ace of the team. He pitched and he

1140
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 2: was removed, and that were just simping to use everybody.

1141
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 2: Had the game been another eighteen inning game like earlier,

1142
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Speaker 2: both teams would have run out of pitchers, but Yamamono

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Speaker 2: managed to close it out in both the ninth and

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Speaker 2: the tenth. The Dodger that Blue Days could have won

1145
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 2: the game outright in the ninth and then tied it

1146
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 2: in the tenth with that one run league and he

1147
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 2: pitched his way through it. So this whole thing, Wow,

1148
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 2: the Dodgers shouldn't have want I look past all. It

1149
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 2: was just a great game. And I also think that

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Speaker 2: this is karma against Canada for running that ad. That

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Speaker 2: that's what I decided. I wanted the Dodgers to win.

1152
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 2: When Canada channeling Reagan, they take a Reagan ad out

1153
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Speaker 2: of context to take a shot at PROMP And now

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01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 2: the Canadian Prime Minister is apologizing and the Canadian team

1155
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 2: lost the World Series. Would you say, oh, that was

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Speaker 2: the during the season too, right, No, but I think

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Speaker 2: he did it during the season when had happened as well.

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Speaker 2: Trying to remember who that was, but I don't know

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Speaker 2: who it is, so we won't mention it. Here the

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Speaker 2: tribute that one of the Dodgers had to Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's it for today's podcast. Next one is

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