1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WVS Boston's news radio. 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 2: All right, welcome back, Thank you very much, Al Griffin. 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: I know it's Friday night when Al is doing the newscast, 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: that is for sure. So there was recently and by 5 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: the way, we're just trying to you know, we could 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: talk more about this officer case, and we will next week, 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: but I want to give it I go and give 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: it a chance for the dust to settle a little 9 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 2: bit and let the investigation go forward. But it shouldn't 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: be a rush to judgment. That's what Larry called Rome 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: was saying, and I agree with that. So we've decided 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: that in the ten o'clock hour tonight. There was an 13 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: interesting story that we did last night during the eight 14 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: o'clock news, during the eight o'clock hour, okay, in which 15 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: some of you might have heard it, And there was 16 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: a study done of every state in America, and the 17 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 2: study was dealing with the whole question of what were 18 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:20,639 Speaker 2: the uh, the most dangerous dangerous streets in every state. Now, 19 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 2: we we probably in Massachusetts have more than enough. So 20 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: what I'm looking for is to find out from each 21 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: of you, whether you live in Massachusetts or you live 22 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: in New England or you live anywhere within the sound 23 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: of my voice, what streets or oftentimes they're more what 24 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 2: I'll call them roadways, because that covers streets as well 25 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 2: as you know major major routes. You know, what are 26 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: the streets that you try to avoid that you would 27 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: just assume not be on, whether it's confusing, or whether 28 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: or not it is dangerous. Now all of us have 29 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: had examples, and this idea actually came from my producer 30 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 2: Marita today. She was telling me as she drove into 31 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: work today that the drivers around her and Marita happens 32 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: to be expecting, so she's being a little bit more cautious, 33 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: I guess because she's driving for more than herself. If 34 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: you get my drift. She's saying how that people were 35 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: cutting in and out of traffic. I see that a 36 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 2: lot on the roadways, So that's dangerous drivers. But I'm 37 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 2: just wondering if there is a road that, if you 38 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: had the opportunity, you would prefer to stay off, or 39 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: even if there's a road that you would prefer to 40 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 2: stay off at a different time of day. I know 41 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 2: that the major cut throughs in Boston from now one 42 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: o'clock in the after noon until probably six or seven o'clock. 43 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 2: At night, rush hours starts going home. Rush hour starts 44 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 2: about one o'clock and it doesn't end until seven. There's 45 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: areas of the Massachusetts Turnpike that are I think particularly dangerous, 46 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: certainly the Zacamb Bridge. Those of us who are coming 47 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: through Boston Upstoro drive onto the Connector and then have 48 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 2: to merge onto the Zacamb Bridge a route which is 49 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: Route ninety three North. That's difficult. I still think going 50 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: through the underground tunnels of Boston that a lot of 51 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 2: the signage can be confusing. Again, you have cars on 52 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: both sides of you. You're trying to make sure that 53 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: you don't slide into them, they don't slide into you, 54 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 2: and you're also trying to make sure that are you 55 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: going ninety three or ninety five? What about the mass 56 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: Turnpike west or east? It can be confusing. I think 57 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: some of the worst roadways in Massachusetts, in my opinion, 58 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: are at Logan Airport. If you go to Logan Airport 59 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 2: on a regular basis, if you're a cab driver or 60 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: an uber driver, you get used to it. But if 61 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 2: you go to Logan Airport on occasion good luck getting 62 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 2: to the right terminal, assuming that you know which terminal 63 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 2: you even want to go to. Those terminal signs I 64 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 2: think can be very confusing. So the question is what 65 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: is the roadway that if you could change it, you 66 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: would What is the roadway that you prefer to avoid 67 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: and it maybe you prefer to avoid it only at 68 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: a particular time during the day, so that's or during 69 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 2: the night. The roads here in New England are not 70 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 2: easy roads. That's why I think we're such good drivers 71 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 2: in New England. You get out in the great heart 72 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 2: land of the country and you have some roads that 73 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: are well maintained and they're wide, and you can you 74 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 2: can go in a pretty good clip and and and 75 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:17,559 Speaker 2: feel pretty safe. But that's not not necessarily so here 76 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 2: in Massachusetts, I mean Route one, it can be a 77 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: really tough road to negotiate when you I mean it's 78 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: it's relatively thin, it's a major roadway. So I'm just 79 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: looking for what roads do you think need to be 80 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: perhaps redesigned. I don't know, maybe we'll have someone from 81 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: the Transportation Department listening to some of the suggestions you 82 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 2: might make. I think that when you get down to 83 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 2: the brainch we split. That's a tough road. There's there's 84 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 2: a lot of tough roads in Massachusetts. Again, if you 85 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 2: drive them every day, that's one thing. But when you 86 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 2: all of a sudden find yourself on that road, and 87 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 2: particularly it can what road, what road comes up on 88 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 2: you too quick? I think a little bit about Route 89 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: nine if you're on one twenty eight, if you don't 90 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 2: pay attention after you go past the turnpike, if you 91 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 2: want to get on Route nine going west or Route 92 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 2: nine going east, you better be paying attention because that 93 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,119 Speaker 2: road comes up very quickly. And sometimes the off ramp 94 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: to Rout nine west, you stay on that, and if 95 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: you stay on it too long, then you won't be 96 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: able to get to Route nine east. So that's the issue. 97 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 2: Roads what and again I'm using the word roadway. Obviously 98 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: little backstreets and stuff. That's not a problem because you 99 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 2: never there were probably some bad backstreets and back roads, 100 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: but you're not going so fast on those. If you 101 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 2: make a mistake, it can be life threatening or it 102 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: can lead you into a serious accident. I had won yesterday. 103 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 2: I was on Route nine coming out of Boston, taking 104 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 2: a right on Brookline Avenue to get onto Route nine 105 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 2: going west, and there was a car that all of 106 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 2: a sudden, I was in the left hand lane. There 107 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 2: was also to my left a turn left lane. So 108 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 2: it's like four line lanes. You got a turn left, 109 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 2: and you have three travel lanes, and I'm in the 110 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: fastest travel lane, and then you have one in the middle, 111 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: and there's one on the right. Some guy from Rhode 112 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: Island Plates came and just when the light turned, he 113 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 2: accelerated and he hit this big U turn almost in 114 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 2: front of where the Brookline fire station is, the old 115 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 2: Brookhouse on Route nine. If I hadn't seen him, I 116 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 2: would have hit him. He did a U turn from 117 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 2: the far right lane across three lanes of traffic if 118 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: you count the middle lane the lane I was in, 119 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: as well as the actual turn left lane, and he 120 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: could have cared less. And they just I blasted my horn, 121 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 2: didn't even slow down, didn't even react. Looked like there 122 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: were young folks in the car. But please don't do that. 123 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 2: I mean, you can cause a tremendous harm to yourself 124 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: and out there. So I'll open up the lines most 125 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: dangerous roads in Massachusetts. You may want to talk about 126 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: the most dangerous roads that right now is so pothole 127 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 2: field that you've lost the tire or you've you've blown 128 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: blown a tire, uh, whatever you want, this is an 129 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 2: opportunity just to talk about our roads here in Massachusetts 130 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: or wherever you are. If you're in upstate New York 131 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: and you get somewhere road that you don't like, this 132 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: is an opportunity to to howld about it. Six one, seven, two, 133 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 2: five four at ten thirty six one seven, nine three 134 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: one ten thirty. But come on right back on night Side. 135 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. 136 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: So we're talking about dangerous roads. It's as simple as that. 137 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: And it's a it's a Friday night at ten o'clock. 138 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 2: At eleven, we're going to do our twentieth hour, and 139 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: of course in the twentieth hour, everybody gets a hall pass, 140 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 2: so you can even if you called earlier in the week, 141 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 2: you can call and join us in twentieth. In there 142 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: at at the twenty flour, we're going to ask what 143 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: is your favorite thing about spring? Spring began today? Spring 144 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 2: Sprung sprung today. I forget what time it was. I 145 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 2: think it was like about eleven o'clock when all of 146 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: a sudden it became spring. It certainly didn't seem like 147 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: a spring like day. But we'll talk about that. Let 148 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: me go to Alex and Millis Alex. I'd love to 149 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: know what roads make you, what road makes you most angry, 150 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 2: or what road is, as far as you're concerned, the 151 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: most dangerous in our neck of the woods. 152 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 3: They all do. But occasionally I think what comes to 153 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 3: mind is two things. I was just coming back from Boston. 154 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 3: I put the mask Pike over by the south end 155 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: where the ramp is in Arlington Street, and I just 156 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 3: noticed that it's, you know, in it's raining, and it's 157 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 3: not very reflective. Yes, so they did do a poor job. 158 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 3: You have to really be careful, you know, to stay 159 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 3: in your lanes, yep. And the other the other place 160 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 3: is being make Away, which I think it's safer to 161 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 3: drive on a NASCAR track than to go on that. 162 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: Well, it's funny you mentioned the Jamaica Way. I used 163 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: to drive the jamake Away a lot when I was young. 164 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: I went to school in Boston, and by the time 165 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 2: I got a license as a kid, I've always been 166 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 2: comfortable on the Jamaica Way because I drive it really defensively. 167 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 2: The last place I would be is in either left 168 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: hand lane. I mean, I think those are the death 169 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 2: trap lanes. But that's one of those roads that they 170 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 2: built it a long time ago, and I think it 171 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 2: was supposed to be what they called a pleasure road 172 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 2: where people would in their model ts drive along slowly 173 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: and admire jamake a pond. But you're right about that. 174 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 2: Arlington Street on ramp very difficult, particularly at night to see. 175 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 2: And why they're on some reflectors up just to help 176 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 2: people get through here. That's a good that's a good example. 177 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 2: That's a really good example. Any other any other roads 178 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: that scare you? 179 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 3: I know I live up well, we live in Millis. 180 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 3: I mean they just paved. We live on a scenic 181 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 3: road and it's uh, you know, it's meant to be 182 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 3: twenty five miles an hour, but people do come down, 183 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 3: you know, uh, you know more than that, but you know, uh, 184 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 3: and it's it's not lighted. It's all you know, basically, 185 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 3: you know, you have to use your high teams. Uh, 186 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 3: you know, that's not a big deal. 187 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: I used to live. I used to We lived in 188 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 2: in sure Born for many years when our kids were young, 189 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: and there's a cut through road between twenty seven and 190 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: Route sixteen called Woodland Street, and I used to run 191 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: that when I was a few years younger. If you 192 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 2: know that road, and oh yeah, during the day, you 193 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 2: take your life in your hands because a lot of 194 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 2: the back in those days you still had the road warriors, 195 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: the salesman who would be flying down the road and 196 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 2: they'd be you know that in the summertime, they'd be 197 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: smoking a cigarette. They'd be reaching into the back seat 198 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 2: trying to get the papers for the next meeting they 199 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 2: were going to have, and with one hand with the cigarette, 200 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 2: steering steering wheel, the coffee. Oh yeah, that was you're right, 201 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 2: you're right, and get and it can get very dangerous. 202 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: As you say, it's as simple as that. Well, that's 203 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: that's those are the first one, I really. Yeah. The 204 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 2: Jway is tough to. 205 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 3: Navigate, a lot of curves. 206 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's all curves. It's all curves. And remember 207 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 2: when you go into a curve, you got to let 208 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: off the gas and you come out of the curve. 209 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: That's when you that's when you beat out the NASCAR driver, 210 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: that's for sure. 211 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 3: Oh could I mentioned because I probably I didn't call 212 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 3: them the last hour I wasn't going to call the 213 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 3: last hour. But my favorite pot of spring for us, 214 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 3: I guess because we have Easter on the twelfth of April, 215 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 3: and it's a big Greek Easter is really you know, 216 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 3: a big, big spectacular event. It's like New Year's Eve, 217 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 3: Christmas and Thanksgiving rolled into one. We have. We have, 218 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 3: like you know, a big feast, and Greek Easter. 219 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 2: Is still it doesn't coincide with with you. 220 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 3: Know, Christian every four years, but because it follows the 221 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 3: Julian calendar and it takes place right after a Jewish Passover, 222 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 3: and that's why it's not the same time as the 223 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 3: Catholic Easter. Every now and then it is. But I 224 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 3: think because they go by the Julian calendar and the 225 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 3: Catholics go by the Gregorian I think for sure. 226 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think Easter Easter this year is a 227 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 2: little early. It's on April fifth. I held you both 228 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 2: the dogs. Easter is a is the week after that, 229 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 2: on the twelfth. Either way, and enjoy Easter. It's a 230 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 2: very important, thank you, very important Holy Holy Day. Thanks Alex, 231 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: appreciate it. 232 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 3: Haveing go on, good night, good night. 233 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 2: Six I four ten thirty eight, nine nine ten thirty. Now, 234 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 2: I kind of imagine some of you don't have an 235 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 2: opinion on this if there is a particularly dangerous road 236 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 2: or a road that you have recently beyond. There's a 237 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: lot of roads right now with potholes. It's clearly potholes season. 238 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 2: But if there's one that you want to point out, 239 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 2: you never know who might be listening tonight. Let me 240 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 2: go to Karen in Wisconsin. Hi, Karen, welcome back. 241 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: Hi. 242 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 4: The one' the one I like the most, but nobody 243 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 4: else does that I know of. 244 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 5: Uh? 245 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 4: Is it to make Way? And I like it because 246 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 4: I like that challenge of the goolkart, you know, round 247 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 4: but it's very windy, and you know, there have been 248 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 4: lots of crashes. I can see why. I don't know why. 249 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 4: I just like that adventure. 250 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: Well, I learned, you know, I got to be honest 251 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: with you. I learned to drive that you make away. 252 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: There's a special way to drive, in my opinion, and 253 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 2: that is you. You you don't you stay out of 254 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 2: the passing lane. Uh. And you and you're you're somewhat protective. 255 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 2: You're out there in the passing lane and someone you know, uh, 256 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 2: your crosses over. Well, you're going to be in the accident, 257 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 2: whether you're a fault or not. But it's stay in 258 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 2: the in the lane that is the the the far 259 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 2: right lane, and and you'll probably be okay. And I 260 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 2: liked it because you could with all the lights. There's 261 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 2: a lot of lights where people slow down and they 262 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 2: stop because they got to take a left. You can 263 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: negotiate the jayway uh problem more quickly. In the right lane. 264 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 2: You're safer and you also can make better time because 265 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 2: everybody's trying to take a left. 266 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 4: So yeah, even the cabbys would you know, once in 267 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 4: a while when I take some over Cambridge, they go 268 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 4: around way around to avoid did you make way? 269 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 270 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,359 Speaker 4: I just like that. 271 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if my question is it might 272 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: be that the commercial vehicles are not allowed on the Jamaicaway. 273 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 2: That's I I'm trying to think now, if I've seen 274 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 2: cabs on the jamake Away, it could be that they're 275 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 2: not allowed. You know, they can they can cross over, uh, 276 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 2: and they can go behind Jamaica Pond and there are. 277 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 4: A lot of road Yes, that's true, take cut off. 278 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's okay. 279 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 2: But I don't know, because again it is so called 280 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: I think they call it like a pleasure road where 281 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 2: people can on a Sunday app Yeah. 282 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 4: It's so trees, it's beautiful and I just like it. 283 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 4: But I can see why you don't. I've seen the accidents. 284 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 2: How are the roads in Wisconsin. 285 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 4: You're calling from Madison, Glass, I just stay home. I 286 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 4: don't like we don't have we have a little roundabouts 287 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 4: and you can't even see them. You're going straight and 288 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 4: all of a sudden you're almost in this They put 289 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 4: it's awful and we have that isthmus uh. You know, 290 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 4: the lakes are on both sides. You either have to 291 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 4: go around the whole city or break through the middle. 292 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 2: And okay, well little quirks and in road constructions and 293 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 2: in different states, but you just stay safe out there. Okay, 294 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: finally melted in Madison, Wisconsin. 295 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 4: It's melting. It's it's as we speak, it's melting fast. 296 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 4: But it was a lot of snow. I didn't. Yeah, 297 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 4: well you too. 298 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 2: We'll maybe talk later. Thank you so much. Good night. 299 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 2: We'll take a quick break. News is at the bottom 300 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 2: of the hour. Got a bunch of calls, including Kathy 301 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 2: from upstate New York. She's going to be next so Kathy, 302 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 2: you get ready. I've driven in upstate New York, and yeah, 303 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 2: I when I drive in a state that I'm not 304 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 2: used to, I'm a little more cautious to frankly, Uh, 305 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 2: give us a call. I got one line in six 306 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 2: one seven, two, five, four to ten thirty and one 307 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 2: line at six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. 308 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 2: Is there a road that is in your area, meeting 309 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 2: your state, or in your section of a state that 310 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 2: you are particularly concerned about? This is an opportunity to 311 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 2: sound off. Who knows who might be listening. Maybe you'll 312 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 2: get it fixed or or or changed. Back on Nightside 313 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 2: after the news at the bottom of the hour. 314 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,959 Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's 315 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: news radio. 316 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 2: Okay, all of you drivers out there, all of you 317 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 2: mass drivers, this is your opportunity to tell us where 318 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 2: are the roads that bother you the most? What roadways 319 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 2: make you the angriest. I got a couple of call. 320 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 2: I got a couple of lines here. Let me go 321 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 2: to Kathy in upstate New York. Hey, Kathy, welcome, How 322 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 2: are you good? 323 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 7: How are you? 324 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 5: Dan? I've I hand to call you, I says, I 325 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 5: hadn't called you in such a long time. 326 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 2: It's been given a while. Yeah, we're about Remind me 327 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 2: again we're about in Upstate New York, because upstate is 328 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 2: a big location. 329 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 5: We are in Rome, New York. Yes, we are stuck 330 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 5: right between Utica and Syracuse, right. 331 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 2: No, I've talked to you before and I knew that. Yeah, 332 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 2: as a matter of fact, I think Rome, New York 333 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 2: is the home of the Commission of Major League Baseball. Oh, 334 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 2: definitely not mistaken. So tell us about what roads bother 335 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 2: you up there. 336 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 5: Well, we have a roundabout and it's March State Route 337 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 5: eight forty and the Intersex is Intersex with Floyd Avenue, 338 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 5: and it used to be an Air Force base, but 339 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 5: now it's been turned into a business park. So they 340 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 5: put the roundabouts in. And when you want to make 341 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 5: a list to go through the roundabout, either people don't 342 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 5: understand or you're going through and people speed through and 343 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 5: they almost hit you. And I've had several close calls. 344 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 5: So there's a certain time of day that like from 345 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 5: seven to nine in the morning and then from like 346 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 5: four to five o'clock. I stay out of there. 347 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we called them sort of like traffic 348 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 2: circles here. I think that they have different names. But 349 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 2: what you got to do at least here, and I 350 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 2: think of several that are between my house in West Roxbury. 351 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: You don't go in to the roundabout if there's another 352 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 2: car coming, because that is only going to cause a problem. 353 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 2: You got. 354 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 5: I think a lot of people just don't don't know 355 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 5: how to use the roundabout, or they don't want or 356 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 5: they don't care, and they just want to buzz right 357 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 5: through at a high rate of speed. 358 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 2: That can be a problem. 359 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 5: The intersection where you're supposed to be is supposed to 360 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 5: be like fifteen miles and the rest of the time 361 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 5: where you're in the city close by, it's thirty five. 362 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 5: But I've seen people just speed like there's no oak tomorrow. 363 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 5: And sometimes the police will you'll see a police car 364 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,959 Speaker 5: out and about and pull somebody over. But for the 365 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 5: most part, a lot of people just speed right along. 366 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, one of the things that in Massachusetts we 367 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 2: do is we don't make eye contact with other drivers. 368 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 2: The idea is if you make eye contact, well that's 369 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 2: a mistake. So what people do is they just look 370 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 2: straight ahead and they go in and they wait. They 371 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 2: make sure the other people don't hit them. I think 372 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 2: it's a dangerous game to play. But there are a 373 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 2: lot of people like that. Now, maybe they're unconscious, or 374 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: maybe they're intentionally unconscious, but they go in and their 375 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 2: attitude is I'm kick here, whoever's here, I'm going through. 376 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 2: And they don't even turn their head. The mistake is 377 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 2: to make eye contact, because once you make eye contact, 378 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 2: then you have to you have to sort of participate 379 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: and play by the rules. 380 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 5: Well, they just don't. They don't yield to the other 381 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 5: car like they're supposed to, yes, and they just buzz 382 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 5: right through like there's no tomorrow. Dan, It's been wonderful 383 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,479 Speaker 5: to talk to you. I'll call again. 384 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much. And has I asked Karen 385 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 2: in Wisconsin, so ill to ask you. Has the snow in 386 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 2: room New York started to melt? 387 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 5: Most of it's ninety eight percent gone, But the last 388 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 5: week or two we've been getting the rain. 389 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that'll that'll get rid of the stone. We're 390 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 2: kind of the same way. There's still a little mound 391 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 2: here and a mound there, but most of the ground 392 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 2: now looks like it's ready for spring, which of course 393 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 2: I have. 394 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 5: But I have to tell you that I got hit 395 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 5: a few days go. I had oil delivered, and my 396 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 5: oil bill I haven't come like every six weeks. I 397 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 5: don't use very much oil. I have attempted Thermostance said 398 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 5: at sixty five, we're well insulayed and sore, comfortable, and 399 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 5: the bill is uoually around three hundred dollars, which I 400 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 5: don't mind. But when I got the bill was seven 401 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 5: hundred dollars, I couldn't believe it. And plus the costs 402 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 5: per galon had gone up, so we really got killed. 403 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, that that's I think a little profit taking 404 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 2: or whatever you want to call it. It's gouging. It's 405 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: price gouging because they haven't been hit with that increased 406 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 2: cost yet, but they're already passing it on. So when 407 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 2: and I hope it happened soon the oil prices go down, 408 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 2: they'll keep it up as long as they can. That's 409 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 2: not fair. I'd be looking for another oil company, to 410 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 2: be honest with you. That's they should not be passing 411 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 2: that cost on because they haven't incurred the cost as yet. 412 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: It's it's too soon. 413 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 8: Support you cut it, you cut. 414 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 2: It, Thanks Kathy, great toar you boys, doctor soon night, 415 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 2: good night, okay we're gonna go next. John is in 416 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 2: New Hampshire. John, you were next on night's side. We 417 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 2: got three in a row, Wisconsin, New York and now 418 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 2: New Hampshire. 419 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 6: Go ahead, John, how going Dan, first time caller, longtime listener. 420 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 2: First time call her, longtime listener. I hope Troy can 421 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 2: find you a good job. Troy the digital with the 422 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: digital audiences on their feet. Go ahead, John. All right. 423 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 6: So my first complaint is getting from Albany Street from 424 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 6: Nanny Thrity South on Zincome Bridge. I think that's just 425 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 6: a pain to get to. First, you go from Zincome 426 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 6: going ninety three south. If you don't have your GPS on, 427 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 6: you're you're basically cooked done and you can't. There's barely 428 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 6: any signage. And then you have to get on to 429 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 6: sixteen A, and then you got the people going to 430 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 6: like South Station. You got people merging onto Albany Street 431 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 6: trying to get into the other tunnel, and then you 432 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 6: go from there into the other tunnel, and then you're 433 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 6: basically you got people coming from South Station trying to 434 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 6: get onto ninety three and everyone's just trying to merge 435 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,239 Speaker 6: left and right. And then you get off all that. 436 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 6: You got to make sure you stay you're going towards 437 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 6: Southe basically on Albney Street, and then you get on 438 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 6: there and you're just trying to take a left to 439 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 6: get onto like Southeast. It's brutal. 440 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 2: I agree with you, and I like to tell the 441 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 2: story that when I was a morning TV reporter, I 442 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 2: actually had most map books in my car, and a 443 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 2: map book for New hamp from map book for Massachusetts 444 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 2: Rhode Island. And this was before GPS, and it's four 445 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning, and it's dark, it's pitch black, 446 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 2: and you're trying to find some address somewhere, or you're 447 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: trying to figure out how to get from point A 448 00:25:55,640 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 2: to point B, and GPS has made it much simpler 449 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 2: for everybody. But I can remember literally going up to 450 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 2: houses in New Hampshire. I'm trying to find like the 451 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 2: town hall in some small part of New Hampshire, and 452 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 2: I had no idea even what town I'm in. There's 453 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 2: no signage at all, and I'm going up knocking in 454 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 2: the door five thirty in the morning, saying, can you 455 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 2: tell me what down I mine? And people took it. 456 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 2: They were pretty nice about it, but it put I 457 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 2: was it was like, I never knew if you knocked 458 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 2: in the door in five thirty in the morning, someone 459 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 2: was going to come to the door with a gun. 460 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 2: You say, what the heck are you doing here at 461 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 2: five point thirty in the morning. Most people though, were 462 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 2: very nice. So you're from New Hampshire. What about getting 463 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 2: from Manchester to Concord If you're coming up ninety three, 464 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 2: that can be a kind of tough one signage as well, 465 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 2: I think for those of us who don't do it 466 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 2: every day. 467 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, so essentially either so from Manchester wives you're basically 468 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 6: taking two ninety three. That could be confusing. You got 469 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 6: the Ever turnpike and then if you're on ninety three, 470 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 6: you got to stay right and then try to go 471 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 6: left because if you don't go left, you're going on 472 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 6: one on one east the other way. It's a little confuser. 473 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 2: Well, very tricky, And we have the same thing down here. 474 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 2: You'll you'll be all of a sudden you're you're on 475 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 2: both one twenty eight and ninety five and it's like, 476 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 2: why is there? You know, it seems to me that 477 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 2: ninety five and I know that that's a major federal road, 478 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 2: you know, US road, But when all of a sudden 479 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 2: it intersects with one twenty eight and then it's one 480 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 2: twenty eight and ninety five. That's really confusing to people 481 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 2: who are coming here as well. I think the road 482 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 2: around Boston should always be for what should be one 483 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 2: twenty eight and the other road is four ninety five, 484 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 2: and it's not until you get to the to the 485 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 2: split there in Quinsy that that it should be that 486 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 2: it should become, you know, ninety five north in my 487 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 2: in my opinion, so it's just double sign it. It's 488 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 2: you know, you'll see these signs where it says over 489 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 2: here one twenty eight northern, one twenty eight south. It 490 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 2: can't be both. It has to just be one. 491 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree. 492 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 2: Signage signage John great dear your voice always good to 493 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 2: talk with New Hampshire. Thanks, thanks so much. We'll talk soon. Okay, 494 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 2: thank you, thank you much. Taking a break. Coming back 495 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 2: on night's side, got Bob and Wakefield. You stay right there. 496 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 2: Donna in Berkeley, and I got a couple of lines available, 497 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 2: one at six one seven, two five four ten thirty 498 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 2: and one at six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. 499 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 2: Nobody has complained about the roads they have complained about 500 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 2: the type of roads, but I thought I'd get more 501 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 2: people who would tell me that potholes have overtaken some 502 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 2: of their their regular roots to work. Six one, seven, two, five, 503 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven, nine, three one ten thirty. 504 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 2: By the way, speaking about roads, the new mayor of 505 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 2: Newton has decided that he will restore Remember last summer 506 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 2: we talked about the the three colors, the tricolors of 507 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 2: the Italian flag, red white, and green. And there was 508 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 2: a section of Newton with the people. Every year they 509 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 2: have a big festival in July and they like to 510 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 2: paint the road red white and green. And the former 511 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 2: mayor of Newton, ruth Ian Fuller, was for some reason 512 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 2: she was just committed to getting rid of the colors 513 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 2: red white and green. And guess what the new mayor 514 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 2: says now the colors will be permanent. So sometimes elections 515 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 2: do have some real consequences in my opinion, So congratulations 516 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 2: to all my friends in Newton who are Italian and 517 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,959 Speaker 2: take pride in the fact that some of the roads 518 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 2: the main dividing line is now will be if not already, 519 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 2: it will be soon. Per the new mayor, red light, 520 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 2: red white, and green in honor of the Italian colors 521 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 2: and the Italian flag. Coming right back on night Side, 522 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 2: got those lines open, We're going to change topics at eleven. 523 00:29:59,040 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 2: Jump on board. 524 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. 525 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 2: So we're talking about bad roads. Let's go next to 526 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 2: Bob and Wakefield. I'm sure all the roads in Wakefield 527 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 2: are just perfect. Bob. How are you? 528 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 8: Oh, they're paved in gold and I live there. Yes, Hey, Dan, 529 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 8: lane striping out on the mass Pike is you know 530 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 8: they need to get that thing at rest one of 531 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 8: these days. I mean, particularly with the led headlights nowadays. Yeah, 532 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 8: so the and I understand, you know, the plans wipe 533 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 8: out the wipe out of the striping, but they for 534 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,239 Speaker 8: some reason or other, they don't. They don't seem to 535 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 8: repaint those things that really happen. And a lot of 536 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 8: times you have to make it up. You have to 537 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 8: make those lanes up when you're out there. Sometimes. 538 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 2: You know, I am not on the mass Pike that often. 539 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 2: I used to be on it almost every day, but 540 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 2: that's important that you're right lane striping on a road 541 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 2: where people are going seventy miles an hour kind of a. 542 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 8: It's a pretty easy six one twenty eight. I actually 543 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 8: did a little talk about the history of one twenty 544 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 8: eight at one of the historical societies over here about 545 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 8: a year or two ago something. So from when I 546 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 8: recall from my little chit chat one twenty eight, this 547 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 8: goes back to the nineteen twenties, and it kind of 548 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 8: kind of and it keeps on going. It hasn't stopped. 549 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 8: But in the nineteen twenties they trying to figure out 550 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 8: how to get around Boston because getting through Boston it 551 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 8: was a train wreck when the automobiles and the trucks 552 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 8: and everybody were trying to get in and out of 553 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 8: it at the same time. So they re lettered they 554 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 8: excuse me. They renumbered streets going around the circumference of 555 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 8: Boston through Waltham and Newton and even Wakefield, and they 556 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 8: just put signage on existing roads, and that was the 557 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 8: one twenty eighth. That was the old one twenty eight. 558 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 8: And then by the nineteenth around mid thirties, William Callahan 559 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 8: got some money from the state and he started building 560 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 8: what we know now is one twenty eight back up 561 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 8: north of Lynnfield, up in Beverly, Dambus in that area 562 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 8: going back to the nineteen thirty six thirty seven period, 563 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 8: and then they put a pause on a journal ward two. 564 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 8: After world Ward two, I think it was around nineteen 565 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 8: forty eight, they came up as they came up with 566 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,959 Speaker 8: a master plan, and that's where they that's when they 567 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 8: really went to gangbusters with one twenty eight, and they 568 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 8: built a four lane limited access highway between Route and 569 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 8: I all the way up to the Lynfield line to 570 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 8: connect with the stuff that they are already built north 571 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,959 Speaker 8: of that, and that opened August twenty third, nineteen fifty one. 572 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 8: By the way, two lanes on either sign. 573 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 2: All right, well, you're a historian. I thought that one 574 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 2: twenty eight came in being because when in the mid 575 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 2: fifties and Eisenhower did a lot of the interstates, you know, 576 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 2: the interstate system was built, but also a lot of 577 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 2: the companies located out on relatively cheap, open spaces on 578 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 2: one twenty eight, and that that is what I could 579 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 2: be wrong on that. You sound like you're a better historian, 580 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 2: that that that helped people decide to invest and really 581 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 2: make one twenty eight similar to what it is today. 582 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 8: Oh sure, because one twenty eight actually is the one 583 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 8: that opened up all the land. They had no idea. 584 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 8: They thought this was going to be a pleasure road. 585 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 8: They were just they were building. This road was just 586 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 8: literally designed to go around Boston, and of course, you know, 587 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 8: and then they connected to the Expressway and then they 588 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 8: fundished it up up to Lockport. But that was that 589 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 8: was then, and now we've got They realized right out 590 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 8: of the gate it wasn't it wasn't wide enough, so 591 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 8: they started adding lanes in the early nineteen sixties. Is 592 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 8: still adding lanes. They're talking about adding a couple of 593 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 8: lanes right up and writing and waited right now, Well. 594 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and they it's it's too I mean, the Southeast 595 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 2: Expressway needs needs to be widened. It just as over 596 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 2: it's overwhelmed when you think when you think about it, Hey, Bob, great, 597 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,239 Speaker 2: great historical perspective, Appreciate it. 598 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 8: One cookie the inter Bellut in nineteen seventy one, when 599 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 8: they canceled that became ninety five, So we became an interstate, 600 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 8: you know, overnight. 601 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that was the road that was going to 602 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 2: go was going to go right through Boston, and there 603 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 2: was a lot of community of opposition, and I think 604 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 2: it was frank sergeant that pulled the plug on that. 605 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 8: You were correct, You were correct that a little bit. 606 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 9: Thanks for bringing the subject up. 607 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, love to call. Great call of the night. 608 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Taught to you. Nick is in Winchester, 609 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 2: NICKI you're next do knightsagger right ahead. 610 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 10: Hey darn Hawaii you buddy. 611 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 2: I'm doing just great. 612 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 10: Uh for me, it's not as much uh treacherous driving. 613 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 10: But the worst road to drive on is going to 614 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 10: be ninety three. Whenever I go into Boston, no matter 615 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 10: what time of day, it's an adventure. 616 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 2: So you're talking about the Southeast Expressway or better. 617 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, that's well when you come down from north 618 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 10: and once you hit Medicine, Oh. 619 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that now, yeah you're north of Boston's you're right, 620 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 2: oh yeah, and then you're talking to Zac and Bridge 621 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 2: or or if you got to get off and uh 622 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 2: at Stoo Drive. I always get off at store drive. 623 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 10: To Yeah, you get off, you go to a Familyay, 624 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,959 Speaker 10: you get out of family. You're sitting in traffic, no question, 625 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 10: it's never run, it's never unded. 626 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 2: And and where do you park around Fenway these days? Seriously, 627 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 2: that's another issue that's totally another issue. And uh, a 628 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 2: lot of those institutions. I think I have a friend 629 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 2: of mine who when he was an undergraduate. I'm not 630 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 2: gonna I d him right now, but he and a 631 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 2: couple of his buddy buddies they had some uh some 632 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,720 Speaker 2: like student parking. So in the afternoon they would put 633 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,919 Speaker 2: their cars out and and lock up a meter or two. 634 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 2: And of course in those days the meter this is 635 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 2: twenty years ago, the meters they wouldn't be at five o'clock. 636 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,479 Speaker 2: It was free, so they would basically move their car 637 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 2: back into student parking behind the building. But they'd get 638 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 2: twenty bucks, thirty bucks, forty bucks for a meter. They 639 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 2: were quite entrepreneurial. 640 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 9: Oh yeah, there you go. 641 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 2: I got one more. I gotta get to here, and 642 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 2: thank you you too. Talk to you soon. I gotta go. 643 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 2: Lyle up in Gloucester. Lyle, you're next do NIGHTSID You're 644 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 2: gonna wrap the hour for us, Go right ahead, Lyle. 645 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 9: Yeah, I'll give my best, believe me. 646 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 10: How you know that. 647 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 11: Gentleman that was quite a historian on one fronty eight, Yes, 648 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 11: but he left out one pot okay, but he was 649 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 11: really good. When they built one twenty eight there was 650 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 11: a the state. I was on the Powers that be 651 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 11: on the promise they wanted they wanted Worcester to be 652 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 11: included when they when they were filming the the mask Pipe. 653 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 11: Sure they were, they they it was a big to 654 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 11: do that night and when I smoke a cigars or whatever, 655 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:17,720 Speaker 11: and Worcester wanted to be included on that mass pipe as. 656 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 7: A direct yeah, and not quite Yeah, but they didn't 657 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 7: want the powers that they didn't want Worcester to have 658 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 7: a good access because it's in the middle of. 659 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 9: Everything, and they didn't want to improve it economically to 660 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 9: a state where it was competitive with Boston and Providence 661 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 9: in the office. 662 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 2: And also they would if but if you think about it, 663 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 2: they would have had to if they went if they 664 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 2: took the pike right through Worcester, they would have had 665 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 2: to have taken a lot of home. Is it a 666 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 2: lot of eminent domain to do that? 667 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 9: Yeah, And saying that, so when they did one twenty 668 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 9: eighth to Gloster, it was really Yes. 669 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 2: The great stories. You were a historian as well, so 670 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 2: between you and Bob and Wakefield, we've got some good information. Lyle, 671 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 2: I wish it called early, would have more time, but 672 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 2: I'm looking at the clock, and here comes the eleven 673 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 2: o'clock news coming down the track. 674 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 11: Hey, one second, they bought all the land the year. 675 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 9: Before was built to gloss. 676 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 2: All right, okay, I'm lild with that. I gotta let 677 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,439 Speaker 2: you go. Thank you, my friend. Good night you two 678 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 2: other side of the eleven o'clock news. Today is the 679 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 2: first day of spring. I think it's one of the 680 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 2: most important days of the year. What do you love 681 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 2: most about spring? I know what I love best. I 682 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,919 Speaker 2: want to hear from you. You have the number six 683 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 2: one seven, two, five four ten thirty or six one seven, 684 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 2: nine three one ten thirty