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Speaker 1: SONO six here a pet you about KRCD talk station

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Speaker 1: after Friday. Welcome back, always a distinct pleasure to invite

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Speaker 1: Congressman Warren Davidson on the program. I appreciate your willingness

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Speaker 1: to accept that imitation. Congressman Warren Davidson, Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: Always an honor. Nice to talk with you, Brian.

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Speaker 1: All right, so we're still shut down. I know everybody

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Speaker 1: knows that. Can I characterize it this way?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: The Senate Republicans have voted thirteen times to fund SNAP.

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Speaker 1: Democrats have voted thirteen times to not fund a SNAP.

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Speaker 1: Is that a fair way of characterizing the current situation?

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Speaker 1: Congressman Davidson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's have been called and recorded. That's the way

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Speaker 2: of the land right now. Now.

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Speaker 1: I guess the big question is this blame game keep

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Speaker 1: swirling around. But I am a little dishearted and a

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Speaker 1: little concerned about these widespread posts on social media that

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Speaker 1: you know, the moment SNAP gets cut off, there's going

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Speaker 1: to be riots in the streets, and some people are

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Speaker 1: suggesting that's exactly what the Democrats want. They are literally

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Speaker 1: bringing pain to the American people, and I think it's

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Speaker 1: time for us all to collectively reflect on why that

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Speaker 1: pain can be brought about. In other words, we are

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Speaker 1: dependent overwhelmingly so on government, which is a scary place

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Speaker 1: to be. But this is this is the only conclusion

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Speaker 1: I can reach. They want us to be in pain

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Speaker 1: in return for which we have to give them up

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Speaker 1: one to awo point five trillion dollars in additional spending

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Speaker 1: so we can what fun to the foe that the

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Speaker 1: faux reality that Obamacare actually works, and also give a

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Speaker 1: lot of help to illegal immigrants in our country.

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Speaker 2: Congressman Davidson, Yeah, I mean that's the strategy Catherine Clark

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Speaker 2: and others. She's the majority or minority whip, the Democrat whip,

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Speaker 2: so one of the leadership positions in the House. That's

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Speaker 2: exactly as she said. You know, we know that we'll

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Speaker 2: be suffering, but that's leverage for us. They're counting on

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Speaker 2: the suffering. They're counting on causing pain to my constituents,

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Speaker 2: our friends and neighbors, and you know the fact that

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Speaker 2: they're suffering. They want Republicans to flench first. And look,

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Speaker 2: the reality is a c R is the epitome of

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Speaker 2: the status quo. That's part of the problem. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Democrats are fighting for what they want. They want more government,

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Speaker 2: a lot more, one and a half trillion more. They

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Speaker 2: wrote it all out for us, and Republicans in theory

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Speaker 2: at least want less government. Certainly my part of the

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Speaker 2: party does. And until you're sitting here defending the status quo,

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Speaker 2: which essentially no one wants, everyone knows this doesn't really work,

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Speaker 2: but it is sort of a reminder to go. Even

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Speaker 2: some of the things that we don't necessarily, you know,

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Speaker 2: love the way that it works, like snap food stamps.

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Speaker 2: It is a pretty integral part. I mean, people do

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Speaker 2: want their friends' family, neighbors to be able to have

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Speaker 2: a hand in a time of need. We all know

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Speaker 2: the program should work better. And part of what Republicans

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Speaker 2: did back in the summer was get back to common

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Speaker 2: sense to say, look, yeah, we've got a safety net there,

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Speaker 2: but at some point, if you're able bodied, work in age,

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Speaker 2: and you don't have dependent kids at home, you need

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Speaker 2: to get a job, or go to school or volunteer somewhere.

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Speaker 2: So all those things are now in place. Democrats are

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Speaker 2: mad about that, and that's part of why they're holding

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Speaker 1: Well, and I think the critical words in that statement

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Speaker 1: not to discount anything you just said, which is all

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Speaker 1: just dead right on as far as I'm concerned. In

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Speaker 1: a time of need, these programs are sold upon the

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Speaker 1: altruistic idea that, well, government can be there when you

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Speaker 1: are truly in need, but that need is supposed to

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Speaker 1: We're going to try to tend to those needs. But

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Speaker 1: as a very very very small slice of the population,

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Speaker 1: the programs have become perpetual and forever somebody gets on

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Speaker 1: That's not what these programs were set up to do,

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Speaker 2: No, not, well, it's not what they were sold to do. Now,

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Speaker 2: Democrats they seem to be yeah, this is as designed.

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Speaker 2: They want it that way, and they also want the

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Speaker 2: you're not going to watch kids starve, so they wind

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Speaker 2: just highlights the problem that the Democrats are imposing on

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Speaker 2: the country left and right. You go back when Joe

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Speaker 2: thousand illegals coming into the country every month that Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden was president. This is off the charge. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this was not you know, unanticipated. They promised to do that,

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Speaker 2: then they did it, and they did it in spite

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Speaker 2: of what the law says. They did it in spite

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Speaker 2: of what the consequences are for our safety net, whether

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Speaker 2: it's health care, food assistance. Housing, And that's one of

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Speaker 2: the other ones that wire housing is so expensive. Well,

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Speaker 2: you brought about twenty million illegal people into the country,

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Speaker 2: They're going to have to live somewhere. There are a

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Speaker 2: whole lot of other factors there, but that certainly is

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Speaker 2: one of them.

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Speaker 1: And Trump ran on all of this and one popular vote,

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Speaker 1: the electoral college vote across the board. One of the

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Speaker 1: key issues you ran on is exactly the point you're making,

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Speaker 1: and it seems so odd to me. It's impossible from

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Speaker 1: my perspective, for the Democrats to reconcile the position. Were

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Speaker 1: they not the party of the safety net? Were they

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Speaker 1: not the champions of the downtrodden. Didn't they implement these

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Speaker 1: provide that measure of assistance in time of need. They're

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Speaker 1: the ones that invited the twenty million or so illegal

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Speaker 1: for years and years and years, a lot of those

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Speaker 1: folks then said, wait a second, I don't like these

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Speaker 1: So they've created this situation. It's a mess. For them.

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Speaker 1: That's I think their biggest problem. They can't reconcile the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and you look at historically working class

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Speaker 2: those were the people that he targeted and post Obama,

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Speaker 2: you know that movement and said, look, they're holding my wages. Dad.

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Speaker 2: When you bring all these people in, you're hurting cutting

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Speaker 2: I remember when Tim Ryan was in the House with me,

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Speaker 2: he challenged Nancy Pelosi to be leader of the Democrats

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Speaker 2: these far left crazy things. And when places like Youngstown,

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Speaker 2: I think in a lot of ways, Ohio ands didn't

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Speaker 2: grown his majority. The left has just taken over the

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Speaker 2: Democrat Party, and they defend things federally in these votes

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Speaker 2: that truly aren't representative of Democrats, even in our district.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's bipartisan in the eighth District of Ohio

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Speaker 2: to say, you know, men and boys, males shouldn't compete

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Speaker 2: You can't pretend you're a woman and then just go compete.

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Speaker 2: Or no matter how much surgery or chemicals you put

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Speaker 2: of why we designed them. That's common sense stuff. But

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Speaker 2: and bipartisan here, but not bipartisan when we call the votes.

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Speaker 2: I think eventually they're going to have to open the government.

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Speaker 2: But in the meantime, I mean, I've laid out a

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Speaker 2: plan for the Speaker and others that you've of course

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Speaker 2: got the sixty vote rule in the Senate. A lot

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Speaker 2: of people want to blow that up. It would be

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Speaker 2: blown up all the time, though, because the Senate's always

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Speaker 2: got the sixty vote rule. We use reconciliation to pass

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Speaker 2: if you've got the White House, the House, and the Senate.

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Speaker 2: So I think that's a better way. I just do

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Speaker 2: reconciliation and deem everything we consider essential as Republicans, and

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Speaker 2: you pass it on reconciliation with a simple majority. That

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Speaker 2: would take a little bit of effort, But if the

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Speaker 2: Democrats aren't going to move, we could get on with

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Speaker 2: funding our AGEA instead of just defending the status quo

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Speaker 1: Well, and you have to be called in from recess

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Speaker 1: to do that. That hasn't yet happened, has it, Congressman Davidson.

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Speaker 2: No. I mean we're having meetings. Unfortunately, some of the

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Speaker 2: is where Speaker Johnson is like, now, just stay out

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Speaker 2: a very clear position. There are some Republicans that, apparently

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Speaker 2: for the first time ever, want to work with Democrats

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Speaker 2: on Obamacare. How do we make Obamacare better? And you know,

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Speaker 2: Obamacare was designed to cause problems for America's healthcare system,

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Speaker 2: so you make it better by getting rid of it.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't work. They know that. Well, it's working the

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Speaker 2: way they designed it to, which is to keep sucking

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Speaker 2: more cash until you effectively have single payer. But it

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Speaker 2: doesn't work to make health care affordable. It's working to

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Speaker 2: implement single payers. So they're bridging it with you know,

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Speaker 2: these are COVID subsidies that overwhelmingly just go straight to

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Speaker 2: the health insurance company, essentially as a bribe to say, hey,

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Speaker 2: if we give you this straight pipe of cash, we

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Speaker 2: hold down premiums a little bit. And you know, it

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Speaker 2: if you don't give us the money, we're going to

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Speaker 2: raise the premiums again. And well, there never was a

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Speaker 2: big pandemic surge, so they got a huge plus up

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Speaker 2: for expenses that didn't come anywhere near what they were

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Speaker 2: funded at. The pandemic was bad, but it wasn't the

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Speaker 2: kind of thing that we funded. We funded a much

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Speaker 2: worse pandemic than what actually happened.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's bring Congress more and it's in back at

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Speaker 1: seven to sixteen right now, If you have KERSD talk

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Speaker 1: talk station, Happy Friday, Eve Thursday at Congressman Warren Davidson

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Speaker 1: on the phone, real quick here congresson Davidson on Obamacare.

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Speaker 1: These supplements don't make the premium go away, do they.

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Speaker 1: They just give the impression that the premium has gone

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Speaker 1: away to the people who get the supplement. So no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not paying one thousand dollars a month for insurance.

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Speaker 1: I'm only paying three hundred dollars a month for insurance.

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Speaker 1: I can handle that. But that other seven hundred dollars

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Speaker 1: Just the weight of that is being borne by the

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's right. I mean, it's a transference. It's

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Speaker 2: really no different than forgiving student debt in the sense

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Speaker 2: if you look at government has grown massively, and one

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Speaker 2: of the biggest places it's grown is healthcare. I mean,

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Speaker 2: back back in the sixties, when Medicaid was was rolled

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Speaker 2: it's expensive. But the more government you put in, the

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Speaker 2: faster the inflation is because that's what causes the inflation. Right, Well,

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Speaker 2: it also causes the person that gets the subsidy. Then okay,

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Speaker 2: well it's good for you, but the market price has

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I guess the I mean insurance as a concept.

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Speaker 1: The loan will cause people to go to the doctor

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Speaker 1: more often because the perception is that it's not costing anything.

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Speaker 1: You know, well, my insurance company's going to pay for it. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's an incentive to go see the doctor, perhaps more often,

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Speaker 1: but it's also knowing that they're going to get paid

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, single payer that will pay any price

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Speaker 2: you look at what's eating the federal budget, you know,

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Speaker 2: look at some of our hospital networks, you know, they're

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Speaker 2: and so the private sector where you know, one hundred

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Speaker 2: insurance through workplace benefit, so overwhelming majority they're getting their

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Speaker 2: we're sitting here propping up a program that clearly didn't work.

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Speaker 1: Wish we could solve the problems of the world just

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Speaker 1: during this conversation Congress from Warren Davidson. It's a million

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Speaker 1: move over real quick here. Because China, it looks like

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump had some success. He's having great success on

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Speaker 1: Do you have optimism of the results of this trip,

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Speaker 1: most notably in connection with our relationship with China.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I mean he went to a lot of

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Speaker 2: early on they're like, why are we putting tarots on

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Speaker 2: all these other countries. Well, China agreed to be a

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Speaker 2: You know, it's the main thing that Bill Clinton worked on,

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Speaker 2: to help us with China. China's got to do what

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I say we own a Donald Trump, and

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Speaker 1: he has had wild success getting promises and commitments of

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Speaker 1: most notably in the area of pharmaceutical production. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we learned a lot from COVID. Was a painful lesson

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Speaker 1: We can take over manufacturing in this country and bring

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, man, I'd rather do business with China

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Speaker 2: some version of it, a cold war if nothing else,

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Speaker 2: you know, great, but you know, peace through strength, right

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Speaker 2: and right now, we're vulnerable and not strong, and that's important.

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Speaker 2: Whether it's semiconductors, chips, you know, in my old industry, tooling,

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Speaker 2: You're still dependent upon China in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 2: I just I think this is long overdue and an

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Speaker 1: Congressman Warren Davidson, Well, thank you for your service to

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Speaker 1: our country, your ongoing service to our country, and your

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Speaker 1: in office. You're a good man. We really appreciate the

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Speaker 1: along with my listeners, you're willingness to come on the

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Speaker 1: our next conversation with you and your family, the best

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Speaker 1: of health and all the success in the world.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for defending freedom, Brian, God bless you and

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Speaker 2: all your listeners.

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