1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: It's time for our weekly Pac twelve conversation with San 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Jose Mercury News reporter John Wilner, brought to. 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: You by Simply Seattle. 4 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 3: Our friends at simply Seattle dot com have the most 5 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 3: amazing collection of all. 6 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: Things Seattle Seahawks gear. UW had some of the largest 7 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 2: selection of Sunnix gear anywhere in the world. Learn more 8 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 2: at simply Seattle dot com. 9 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 3: All right, here we go. By the way, if you 10 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 3: got your eyes on some Super Bowl gear, Simply Seattle 11 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 3: is getting new stuff in all the time. Be sure 12 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 3: and use code kJ R fifteen for fifteen percent off 13 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 3: anything right now at simply Seattle dot com. Here he 14 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 3: is the Pope of the pack, the big ten baron himself, 15 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 3: our friend from the San Jose Mercury News, Johnny Wilner. John, 16 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 3: How are you man? 17 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: I'm good. Thanks you guys. 18 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 4: Still in the celebratory mood up there. 19 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 3: A little bit? Yeah, I mean exhausted, right, but it's 20 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 3: a good exhaustion after what we went through. I got 21 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 3: sick on Friday and Dick had to take the show himself, 22 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 3: so I felt bad about that. Be You're right it, Dan, 23 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 3: I felt that and I was sitting on the toilet 24 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 3: all day long and coughing up flem. That's a visual 25 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 3: nobody wants to hear. But yes, we are doing very 26 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 3: well to answer your question in a backwards kind of way. 27 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 3: We are still excited buying up as much crap as 28 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 3: we can to celebrate the win over the over the 29 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 3: who the hell we play Patriots Patriot a week and 30 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,919 Speaker 3: a half ago in the Bay Area. But John answer 31 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 3: us this because somebody texted the radio show last segment. 32 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 3: We're talking about Kenny Walker and his impending free agency 33 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 3: and somebody saying, you know what, Jonah Coleman can take 34 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 3: his spot, and both think and I was like, I 35 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 3: don't know. We like Jonah Coleman, but we don't see 36 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 3: it as a real big time threat at running back 37 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 3: at the NFL level, replacing a guy like K nine. 38 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 3: What do you think about Jonah Coleman's prospects at the 39 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 3: next level? 40 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 4: I think, well, I don't know enough about how well 41 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 4: he catches the ball out of the backfield. I guess 42 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 4: can he do that at the NFL level? Is he 43 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 4: limited in what you know? The downs he would be 44 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 4: able to play? You know, because if you don't have 45 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 4: the big, big time, speed, you got. You gotta have versatility, 46 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 4: you know, special teams catching the ball on third down, 47 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 4: That to me would be a big question I think 48 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 4: as a runner in a situational runner, Yes, good enough, 49 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 4: but you know it's such a numbers game with that 50 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 4: roster that you gotta you gotta have some versatility. 51 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, pff, it's got. 52 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 5: Jonah Coleman is the second rated running back behind Jeremia Love. 53 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 5: That's surprising, but good for him. 54 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 3: That might be more of a reflection of the class, 55 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 3: by the way, that could be. That could be, uh, John. 56 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 5: The Big Ten has laid down some groundwork on an 57 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 5: expanded playoff. So how much closer are we to a 58 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 5: twenty four team playoff? 59 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 2: All right? 60 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 4: Boy, this is a real hot topic. So the news 61 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 4: is that the details of the twenty fourteen playoff proposal 62 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 4: became public. The Big Ten has been kind of pushing. 63 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 2: For twenty four. 64 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 4: That's the reason there was no expansion for next season 65 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 4: is the Big tim was pushing for twenty four and 66 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 4: the SEC wasn't ready, so they decided to stay at twelve. 67 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 4: This proposal calls for two years of a sixteen team playoff, 68 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,839 Speaker 4: which would be twenty seven and twenty eight and then 69 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 4: a twenty fourteen playoffs starting in twenty nine, and it 70 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 4: would basically have eight buys and you'd have, you know, 71 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 4: eight first round games hosted at on campus. The eight 72 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 4: winners would advance and the next round they play the 73 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 4: teams that had the buys, and the teams with the 74 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 4: buys would also be on kIPS. See that's sixteen on 75 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 4: campus games. That is something that I think has a. 76 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: Lot of appeal. 77 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 4: It would also require getting rid of the conference championship games. 78 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: You know, for a lot of reasons. 79 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 4: They're just meaningless if twenty four teams are in the playoff. 80 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 4: But also you have to create weekends in the calendar, 81 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 4: so you know, we'll see. I think that because there 82 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 4: are all at large bids and no automatic bids, the 83 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 4: SEC might be willing to listen. 84 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I think the conference championship games are lame 85 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 3: now with the twelve team playoff, right, I mean, are 86 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: we looking at the real possibility and the likely reality 87 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 3: John that in the next maybe three to five years, 88 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: if not sooner, conference championship games are gonna be gonezo. 89 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 4: Oh, I think so for sure. Now The issue is 90 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 4: the SEC championship game is like. 91 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: Seventy five million dollars. It makes a ton of money 92 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: from TV. 93 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 4: And it does huge ratings, and it's that is a 94 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 4: that's the one championship game that is really a part 95 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 4: of the conference's culture and it's been a huge game 96 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 4: for decades. So they have The only way the playoff 97 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 4: and expand playoff is going to work is if there's. 98 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: Enough new TV money to. 99 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 4: Offset what the SEC for in particular, but also the. 100 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: Big Ten would lose by eliminating. 101 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 4: Their conference championship games. If you just go to a 102 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 4: sixteen team playoff and the new games are sixteen verse 103 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 4: thirteen and fifteen verse fourteen, that's not enough new TV 104 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 4: money to make up for what the SECM beig come 105 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 4: and lose. So they have to go to twenty four 106 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 4: and create this a new a huge new inventory of 107 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 4: games in order to generate enough money to make it worthwhile. 108 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 5: Would this survive litigation from the Group of Six if 109 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 5: you are giving them one token playoff spot in a 110 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 5: twenty fourteen playoff. 111 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 4: See that's a great question. I think that that is 112 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 4: going to be challenged by the Group of Six right So, 113 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 4: right now they have one automatic bid in a twelve 114 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 4: team playoff. You're doubling the size of the playoff, but 115 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 4: you're not giving them any more automatic bids. I think 116 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 4: there will be a lot of pushback, potentially a threat 117 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 4: of legal action as well. But we'll see some of 118 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 4: the details of how of the selections, you know, could 119 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 4: be manipulated to make things a little bit more palatable 120 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 4: for the group of six. Right now, it's just the 121 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 4: top twenty three. It would be the Big Tens proposal, 122 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 4: top twenty three teams. They could be twelve teams from 123 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 4: the SEC, but it's the top twenty three teams plus 124 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 4: one automatic for the group of six. We'll see how 125 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 4: that goes. The big question though, is it's got a 126 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 4: twenty fourteen playoff. 127 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 2: There's going to be eight and four. 128 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 4: Teams getting in, and what will that do to the 129 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 4: regular season. I personally would be very concerned that a 130 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 4: lot of games right now that matter, a top in 131 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 4: November would not really matter. 132 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean, just by you know, simple math, 133 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 3: the more games you have in the playoff, teams you 134 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 3: have in the playoffs, the less the games and the 135 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 3: regular season matter, right. I mean, people say that about 136 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 3: the NBA and the NHL, that half the damn league 137 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 3: makes the playoffs and regular season doesn't matter as much, 138 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 3: at least not until the latter maybe stages of the 139 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 3: regular season. But do you think the conference presidents, chancellor's 140 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 3: ads share that same concern that the more teams we add, 141 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 3: the less likely fans will be to watch or show 142 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: up in November. 143 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 4: I do think that there's a lot of folks in 144 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 4: the ACC, Big twelve and SEC that need to be convinced, 145 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 4: both athletic directors, coaches and the university presidents. Now, the 146 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 4: Big ten will argue that a twenty fourteen playoff is 147 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 4: going to put more teams involved, right, make more teams 148 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 4: involved so that a game that you know, Iowa was 149 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 4: playing in the middle of November that didn't mean anything 150 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 4: for the playoff will mean something. But what I think 151 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 4: it's gonna do is it will reduce the big showdowns, 152 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 4: the value and meaning of the big showdowns, and make 153 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 4: more of the kind of average games mean something. And 154 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 4: I don't know if that's a good tradeoff for the sport. 155 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 4: Now here's an example. The USC Oregon game, which I 156 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 4: think was the second to last week of the season. 157 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 4: You know, SC was like fifteenth and Oregon was eighth 158 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 4: and in a twelve team playoff. The loser of that 159 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 4: game was going to be out right and SC got 160 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 4: eliminated in a twenty fourteen playoff Oregon. That Oregon USC 161 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 4: game doesn't really matter because both teams are going to 162 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 4: get in. Yeah, now, it always matters Oregon SC and 163 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 4: it could be Washington USC. Right, you could substitute that 164 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 4: always matters on the West coast that game, but it 165 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 4: doesn't matter nationally that both teams are going to get 166 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 4: into the playoff win or lose. 167 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 3: I wonder if this would force them to play those 168 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 3: games earlier in the year, John, You know, the Oregon 169 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 3: U DUB game instead of being the last game of 170 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 3: the year, maybe it's the second game of the year, 171 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 3: or the first game of the year, the third game 172 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 3: of the year, when there's maybe more of a question 173 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 3: about who gets in. Because you're right by middle of 174 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 3: November early November, this thing's almost pretty much set. Right, 175 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 3: who's gonna be in the twenty four team playoff, and 176 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 3: you have a rivalry game like an Auburn Alabama late 177 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 3: in the year, it may not mean Jack Squatt because 178 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 3: both teams are already getting in. Now, obviously you got pride, 179 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 3: and I get it, you know, rivalry games, things like that. 180 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 3: But could this potentially lead to some of those big 181 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 3: games that we see late in the year being pushed 182 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 3: to be early in the year, maybe as a kickoff 183 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 3: classic type of thing, to make them more relevant. 184 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 4: I think that that is a distinct possibility, and ESPN 185 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 4: Fox will probably push for that, and that one specific 186 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 4: aspect of this is part of the larger reshuffling of 187 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 4: the regular season schedule that I think we're gonna see, 188 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 4: because one of the things that're probably gonna do in 189 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 4: the next year or two is they're going to open 190 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 4: up weeks zero for everybody, and that is going to 191 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 4: create more flexibility within the schedule, and I think you'll 192 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 4: see more bigger games early, both non conference and intra 193 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 4: conference games, because they are gonna have to They are 194 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 4: gonna have to find a way to make those big 195 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 4: games that right now mean something in November still mean 196 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 4: something in a twenty fourteen playoff. And you're right that 197 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 4: Oregon Washington, just Oregon Washington, that game would mean a 198 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 4: lot less a lot of years if both teams are 199 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 4: going to get in the playoff. 200 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 5: What do you think would mean for Washington in general. 201 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 5: I mean, because right now, if there's a sixteen team playoff, 202 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 5: and we've talked about this before, and you and I 203 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 5: and Dave were kind of in an agreement that you know, 204 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 5: every other year Ish Washington should be getting into a 205 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 5: sixteen team playoff, goes to twenty four and all of 206 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 5: a sudden, Hey pressures on Jed Fish to make it 207 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 5: like every single year basically, right, Yeah, I. 208 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 4: Mean you could pretty much figure if it's twenty fourteen 209 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 4: playoff and you take one let's just say one for 210 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 4: the Group of six plus notre Day, and that leaves 211 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 4: twenty two two. If you give three to the Big 212 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 4: twelve and three to the ACC, that leaves sixteen for 213 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 4: the SEC. 214 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 2: And Big Ten. 215 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 4: Now this is all rough, but I think it's a 216 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 4: pretty good approximation. So you're talking about six seven, eight 217 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 4: teams in the Big ten are making that the playoff 218 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 4: every year. Washington should be doing that, what three out 219 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 4: of every four years. But at the same time they're 220 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 4: doing it if they're eight and four, and you know, 221 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 4: you need to have I think college football needs to 222 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 4: have an exclusivity factor, right. 223 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 2: I mean, it shouldn't. 224 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 4: You shouldn't be eight and four and getting the playoff. 225 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 4: In my opinion, it's find in the NFL, But that's 226 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 4: a different sport. I want, you know, the bar to 227 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 4: remain high, right, and the ads and the coaches might 228 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 4: not like that, but I think that the sport in 229 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 4: general is better serve if the postseason threshold is higher. 230 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 3: Well, we asked John a few minutes ago, are we 231 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 3: gonna be in a reality the next three to five 232 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 3: years where conference championship games are no longer being played? 233 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 3: And you said, yeah, that's possible. What about three to 234 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 3: five years the NC DOUBLEA no longer ceases to exist, 235 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 3: at least not at the highest levels of competition, because 236 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 3: I think they're toothless to begin with. Man, I don't 237 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 3: even know what the hell they do, for God's sakes, 238 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 3: besides run march madness. I saw this story last week 239 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 3: about Trinidad Chamberliss, the old Miss quarterback, where a judge 240 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 3: in Mississippi granted him a sixth year NC double A. 241 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 3: Is like throwing their hands up. I mean, what in 242 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 3: what world in the college football landscape is the NC 243 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 3: double A still even relevant? 244 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 2: What are they doing well in college football? They don't 245 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 2: do that much. 246 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 4: They don't run the CFP, right, the conferences are in charge. 247 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 4: The only thing they do, you know, is rulebook, competition calendar. 248 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 4: In theory, they set eligibility standards. The NCAA's main function, 249 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 4: as you alluded to, is to run the championship events, 250 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 4: not only March Madness for men and women, but all 251 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 4: the championships for the Olympic sports. And the thing is 252 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 4: they do a really good job at that. That is 253 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 4: the best thing the NCAA does is put on the 254 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 4: championship events. But college football it's already separated, and you know, 255 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 4: I think in three or five years it might get 256 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 4: completely pulled out from under the NCAA. The interesting thing is, 257 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 4: you guys, I'm sure you saw Sacramento State, right, They're 258 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 4: going to MAC and football only Northern in Illinois, they're 259 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 4: playing in the Mountain West and football only. In some ways, 260 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 4: those are like the test cases for a football only 261 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 4: division that is separated out from the NCUBLEA, and all 262 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 4: the other sports would play regional conferences. I mean, the 263 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 4: Pac twelve would kind of exist as we used to 264 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 4: know it for the Olympic sports, which I think would 265 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 4: be good for the athletes. And you just have football 266 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 4: separate we're getting there pretty quickly, and the NCAA, like 267 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 4: you said, is losing a lot of its authority with 268 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 4: every single court case that comes through. 269 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 5: John an amazing story from Kansas State. I mean, do 270 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 5: they have any chance of getting out of paying their 271 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 5: fired head coach the nineteen million still owed on four 272 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 5: cause only because he went on a press conference and 273 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 5: ripped his players. So they fire him and say, well, 274 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 5: that's for cause because you ripped your players. 275 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 3: Said, I don't. 276 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 4: I think once the lawyers get involved, which is probably 277 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 4: already happening, you know that that nineteen million is probably 278 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 4: going to stick or be really close to nineteen million. 279 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 4: I think he's gonna he's going to take home almost. 280 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 2: Every dime that they owe him. 281 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 4: They're just posturing for you know, for legal purposes. But 282 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 4: I don't see how their case is is going to stick. 283 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: I really don't. 284 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 4: Coaches ripped their players all the time and there are 285 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 4: no repercussions, so they're they're just that it's a gamble 286 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 4: in their part for sure. 287 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 3: No doubt. All right, man, great stuff. I mean, I'm 288 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 3: kind of getting used to having you make a pick 289 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 3: at the end of your interview every week. But there's 290 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 3: no games unless you want to pick, like an NBA 291 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 3: game on Thursday, era college hoops, college basketball game. You 292 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 3: got a college basketball game you like tonight. By the way, I. 293 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 4: Haven't even looked at the schedule time. I have a 294 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 4: hard time keeping track of the college basketball How about this? 295 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: I bet this Saturday. 296 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 4: You know, Saturday is is Arizona Houston and Duke Michigan. 297 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 3: That's all. 298 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know a bunch of those teams could 299 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 4: end up in the final four. It is the you know, 300 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 4: the best double header probably of this season for folks 301 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 4: who are interested in watching on Saturday. 302 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 3: Well, how about this then? Because you mentioned Arizona Houston, Arizona, 303 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 3: I don't even relyne on that. How about Michigan State 304 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 3: and UCLA tonight, that's a good one. Sparties are given 305 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 3: eight and a half home against winding Mick Cronin. 306 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 4: What do you think I'll take the Spartans there and 307 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 4: give the points, no question. 308 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: You know. 309 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 4: The thing is and we should talk about this maybe 310 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 4: next week. The four West Coast teams playing basketball in 311 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 4: the Big Ten. It is a bleak situation and I 312 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 4: don't know that there's really an out for them. I 313 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 4: think those four are in trouble. I think the rosters 314 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 4: are in trouble. I think the travel is a big issue. 315 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 4: It's that is going to be a hard road for 316 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 4: all four of those schools. 317 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, we were I think more concerned about basketball 318 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 3: than we were football when this whole thing took place. 319 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 3: And it's kind of playing out like that, man, No 320 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 3: question about. The dub lost a turd to Penn State 321 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 3: a week ago, and now they're going on the road 322 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 3: to Maryland on Saturday and then Rutgers, so we'll see, 323 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 3: all right, man. 324 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 4: And the compounding the thing is, there's a compounding impact 325 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 4: from all these trips to the other side of the country. 326 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 3: I think, right, well, let's let's let's talk about that 327 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 3: next week. All right, Well, we'll kind of dive into 328 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 3: that because we'll have at least well two games. Actually 329 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 3: next week you'll be here because no, we're not gonna 330 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 3: have me on the air with John because we have 331 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 3: the Rubbers a different day. Move John to Wednesday, and 332 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 3: then you can have them on after the two Husky games. Perfect, 333 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 3: all right, John, great stuff, enjoy it. We'll talk soon, man, 334 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 3: Thank you pal. All right, John Wilner with us, And 335 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 3: there's definitely a discussion going on there, man, because this 336 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 3: UDA basketball thing is just not taking off at all. 337 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 3: And he's right, the entire Big ten westcoma the Oregon 338 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 3: stinks right like they're awful and they should never be there. 339 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 3: But with all the resources they have, they should never 340 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 3: be this bad. All we're gonna break Bucky Jacobson, the 341 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 3: big Oregon fan himself. Uh, he'll join us from Peoria 342 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 3: talk about day two for Chucking Buck of the Desert 343 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 3: coming up on ninety three three kJ A RFM. 344 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 6: I do not like striking out. I cannot stand it. 345 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 6: I'm a firm believer in trying to stay inside the 346 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 6: strike zone. I mean, there's times you do have to 347 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 6: tip your cap and you're never gonna see me walk 348 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 6: back to the doug happier looking content like I'm gonna 349 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 6: be a little pissed off, but that's okay. 350 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 3: You know, it'd be a concern if Brandon Donovan went 351 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 3: on the air with Chuck and Buck and say, you 352 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 3: know what I like, guys like striking out striking I 353 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 3: love sitting down after three whiffs and just walking right 354 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 3: back to the dugout and having the fans boom. I 355 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 3: ass man well, thank god you didn't say that. There's 356 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 3: a lot of guys that don't care. If for sure? 357 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 3: For sure, Well, cal Rowley strikes out a lot, but 358 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 3: he also hit sixty home runs a year. So as 359 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 3: long as he does that, I'm fine with it. Bucky Jacobson, 360 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,719 Speaker 3: he never struck out when he played. He was a 361 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 3: contactitor man, high on base percentage, guy, stolen base King 362 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,719 Speaker 3: of the Year every single year. And he joins us 363 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 3: right now from Peoria, Arizona. Bucky, how are you, man? 364 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 7: Good shofty? How are you, my friend? 365 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 3: You sound like you just woke up from a nap am. 366 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 3: I right about that. 367 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 7: That is exactly. 368 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 3: I could tell the second you opened up your mouth 369 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 3: to go there you go exactly. I know you. Well, well, Bucky, 370 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 3: let's talk about, first of all, that conversation you had 371 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 3: with Brendon Donovan. He's we're gonna do it again coming 372 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 3: up tonight six twenty. If you missed it, that was 373 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 3: a really cool. Listen. Good job by you guys. But 374 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 3: he's talking about, you know, he wants to run more, 375 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 3: he wants to steal bases. He's only got fifteen in 376 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 3: his career. But Josh Naylor wasn't exactly known as Vince 377 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 3: Coleman until this year either, and then he kind of 378 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 3: took off. Do you think there's a chance they could 379 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 3: maybe unlock something with this guy this year. 380 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 7: I think there's a chance they get unlocked some. I mean, 381 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 7: I mean, you saw everybody after Naylor came over start 382 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 7: taking a few more swipes at bags, and a lot 383 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 7: of them were more successful. I mean, he does something 384 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 7: which is speaking about Naylor, he does something between the 385 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 7: years where he's getting tells and he's kind of getting 386 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 7: things a little bit of an idea as to what 387 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 7: pitch are gonna throw or if they're not going to 388 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 7: throw over because he's literally one of the slower guys 389 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,479 Speaker 7: in the league and went out and there stole thirty bags. 390 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 7: I think Brendan Donovan I think is faster, but he's not. 391 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 7: He's not fast. And so even though he was saying, hey, 392 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 7: I might try to steal a few more bags, I 393 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 7: don't see him going out there and be in some 394 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 7: big base doings a right now. One thing I will say, 395 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 7: just from talking to him the last couple of days, 396 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 7: the interviewing a couple times off the air, he's a 397 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 7: baseball player He's a guy that also is in that 398 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 7: cut from the same cloth that a nailer is. Where 399 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 7: he's he's going to figure out when I need to 400 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 7: go or when it would be really beneficial if I 401 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 7: can swipe this bag here the way that Naylor did 402 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 7: a couple different times stealing third base and getting over 403 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 7: there where he gets scored by a sac fly. I 404 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 7: think that Brennan Donovan has that same type of baseball instincts, 405 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 7: and I think he was just kind of saying the 406 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 7: last couple of years he was dealing with something. I 407 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 7: would imagine it's a leg injury of some sort that 408 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 7: he had some sort of procedure done on, and he's 409 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 7: feeling better than he has to where he might feel 410 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 7: a little bit more apt to be able to go 411 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,479 Speaker 7: and not necessarily be lumbering around the bags. 412 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 5: Bucky, he seems like the obvious fit at leadoff. I 413 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 5: was looking at the ops last year and I knew 414 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 5: it wasn't good. I didn't realize it was that bad. 415 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 5: I mean, they were sub seven hundred ops at the 416 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 5: leadoff spot. So does he just take that spot for 417 00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 5: one hundred and forty plus games. 418 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 7: I think he's for sure your lead off hit or 419 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 7: at least you know you pencil him in there right now. 420 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 7: If he goes oh for spring training, you're not going 421 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 7: to try to force him into that and just say, hey, 422 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 7: you'll figure it out during the regular season. I don't 423 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 7: see that happening. Just based on the fact of watching 424 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 7: him take some live VP, he looks like he's pretty 425 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 7: durn good. I mean today I watched him get a 426 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 7: walk against against Kirby, which is not an easy thing 427 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 7: to do, and he kind of battled out off a 428 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 7: couple of pitches, took a couple of nasty sliders down 429 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 7: in his back foot, and ended up battling for a walk. Yeah, 430 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 7: if you look at his numbers, the beautiful thing about him. 431 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 7: One of the things I heard that he was talking 432 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,719 Speaker 7: about off of the air that we didn't get to 433 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 7: it was after the interview. I asked him about his 434 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 7: approach and what he thinks about the leadoff hitter role 435 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 7: and how that plays into his approach, and he said, 436 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 7: I have different if I have about twenty five different 437 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 7: approaches depending on the situation, depending on what my role 438 00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 7: is that day for the team, depending on what the 439 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 7: score of the game is, depending on who I'm going 440 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 7: against if they're doing feeling good, if I'm feeling good. 441 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 7: You know how many runners are on base, all kinds 442 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 7: of different stuff. And if you go look through his splits, 443 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 7: you'll see that his on base percentage goes up when 444 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 7: he's in the leadoff spot, and his slugging percentage kind 445 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 7: of comes down. He turned into a little more of 446 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 7: a slap hitter. You can go all the way down 447 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 7: just when he's hitting second, third, fourth, all of them. 448 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 7: All of his splits start to look more characteristic to 449 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 7: where he's hitting that in the lineup. But it's it's 450 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 7: pretty crazy to think that a guy might do that. 451 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 7: I'm all about approach, but I don't know if I've 452 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 7: ever seen anybody has a different amount of approaches like 453 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 7: this guy says that he doesn't hit, the stats say 454 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 7: that he does well. 455 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 3: Bucky Jacobson's with us, fresh off a nap, all energized 456 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 3: and ready to rock for a night out in Peoria 457 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 3: where there's running made Chuck Powell. Those two guys hit 458 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 3: the town look out by the way. But let me 459 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 3: ask you about Katie Anderson and Ryan Sloan, because they're 460 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 3: the Taka camp so far. I'm sure you've seen both 461 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 3: these kids throw in the last couple of days. I'm 462 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 3: kirie us bucket your thoughts on the two of them. Obviously, 463 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 3: Cade's a bit older than Ryan is, so maybe a 464 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 3: little more major League ready than Ryan. But I'm wondering 465 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 3: if these two guys may kind of give the Mariners 466 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 3: an opportunity to maybe trade eventually one of their starting 467 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 3: pitchers they have now for some offense potentially and make 468 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 3: room for one of these kids. So tell us about 469 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 3: Sloan and Anderson and what their immediate and long term 470 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 3: futures look like. 471 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 7: You think, Sabi, I think. I mean, it kind of 472 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 7: hurts my heart to think about getting rid of any 473 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 7: of the pictures that we have, just because how much, 474 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 7: you know, how much we kind of ride those guys, 475 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 7: and how much we depend on those guys, and how 476 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 7: fun it's been to watch them all kind of grow 477 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 7: up here in the system. Luis Castillo, we didn't watch 478 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 7: them grow up here, but we still kind of everybody's 479 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 7: falling in love with the Rock. But I almost I mean, 480 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 7: I wouldn't say with a certainty, because I don't think 481 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,719 Speaker 7: anything is a certainty, but I feel like that is 482 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,959 Speaker 7: probably the way in which it's going to go right, 483 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 7: and this organization has to do things a little bit 484 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 7: differently because of maybe things or reasons that are put 485 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 7: upon them by people above, you know, the general manager 486 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 7: and president position. So I think that there's a really 487 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 7: good possibility that if one of those guys or both 488 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 7: of those guys are ready at some point during the season, 489 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 7: and you all of a sudden start having the trade 490 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 7: deadline roll around and there's something else you want, they're 491 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 7: gonna be hard pressed to give those up, because, I mean, 492 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 7: they love those guys and they don't like giving up 493 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 7: their top prospects, and so I wouldn't think that would 494 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 7: be something they'd be comfortable with. But if there's a 495 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 7: price there, if there's a person out there that they 496 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 7: have to give up one of those guys, if they 497 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 7: have to give up any one of these starters that 498 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 7: they're getting ready to have to pay more in arbitration 499 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 7: or maybe sign them up for free agent money, I 500 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 7: could see him possibly doing that because Ryan Sloan is 501 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 7: the most abnormal looking human being I've ever seen, and 502 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 7: I mean that in good ways looking kid. When I 503 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 7: say kid, I mean I mean it as he looks 504 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 7: literally like an eleven year old. His face does he 505 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 7: looks super young. And then from there down, especially his 506 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 7: lower half. I mean, the legs on this guy, the 507 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 7: go muscles are unbelievable. I mean it's it's exactly the 508 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 7: way that you would draw up how you want a 509 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 7: starting pitcher to look is like that. Now, Kate Anderson 510 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 7: is a little bit more polished. Like you said, he's 511 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 7: a little bit older, having pitched in. Cole is not 512 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 7: near the same physique, you know, like a power pitcher. 513 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 7: But he's big, and he's tall, and he's lanky. It's 514 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 7: not an effortless one hundred miles an hour, but he 515 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 7: can locate. You can throw every pitch for a strike. 516 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 7: He understands how to pitch far more than you can 517 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 7: when you're nineteen twenty years old. And so I mean, 518 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 7: I don't know which one is going to be closer. 519 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 7: Which one I would say is closer. Probably Kate Anderson. 520 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 7: They probably assume Kate Anderson. But Ryan Sloan is right there. 521 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 7: I mean, he's gonna basically enter the season, and I 522 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 7: think they're looking at him. You might have the next 523 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 7: Garrett Cole in him, and you might have the next 524 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 7: Max Freed in Kate Anderson. 525 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 5: Wow, jeez, okay, no pressure. Yeah, and we're not paying 526 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 5: him three hundred million dollars a piece too. 527 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 3: That's nice. Well, let's go to the bullpen. Buck. 528 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 5: Let's talk about Ferrer because there was an article I 529 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 5: think was yesterday that said he he's dazzling down there. 530 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 3: What do you like about about him? 531 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 5: And has he filled that spot that's been a void 532 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 5: on the left side. 533 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 7: Well, I mean, first, I don't think we necessarily had 534 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 7: a void. I mean, I think Gabe Spier did did 535 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 7: a really good job in that spot. I think he 536 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 7: was kind of overused. He was your only guy that 537 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 7: was capable of doing that. They went out and tried 538 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 7: getting Caleb Ferguson and he didn't do nearly as well. 539 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 7: And he was a guy that you're kind of he 540 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 7: throws it in hopes that it's hit to somebody. That's 541 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 7: what his mo is, right, one of the best ground 542 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 7: ball pitchers in the game, and so when you're not 543 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 7: gonna get much swing and miss, they have to hit 544 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 7: it to somebody or you're gonna give up a bunch 545 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 7: of runs. And that's exactly what he did when he 546 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 7: became a Mariner. So other than that I thought Gabe 547 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 7: did really well, and he obviously gave up a couple 548 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 7: of balls that he wishes he could have back in 549 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 7: the playoffs. This gives you another piece to that, I'll say, 550 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 7: and possibly a better piece now. Gabe did well. Like 551 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 7: I said last year, I think Ferrari has a has 552 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 7: way more plus plus stuff. I mean, it's way more 553 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 7: swing and miss. I'm not one hundred six sure how 554 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 7: GiB gets as much swing and miss as he does. 555 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 7: When I'm watching him on TV and even when I'm 556 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 7: watching him live. It doesn't have a ton of movement, 557 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 7: but he's kind of got a little short, squatty delivery 558 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 7: that I think it kind of shoots out. It's kind 559 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 7: of got a heavy ball, and it's kind of a 560 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 7: deceptive as far as his at least point goes, Ferrari's 561 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 7: is not near like that. It's more like here it comes, 562 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 7: and it's a bigger dude, and it's coming after it. 563 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,239 Speaker 7: It's more like a locomotive that he's thrown in there, 564 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 7: and those aren't easy to hit. It looks like a 565 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 7: heavy ball that he throws. Yeah, and I think that 566 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 7: he's gonna Now you have options to where you're not like, well, 567 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 7: we don't really have a lefty specialist. We have to 568 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 7: go to our rity that is good against lefties because 569 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 7: we've used Gabe the last couple of days. 570 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 3: Fucky, before you go, I think we all assume that 571 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 3: cal Rawly is going to take some kind of a 572 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 3: step back power wise, What do you expects sixty home 573 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 3: runs again in twenty twenty six? But I'm curious kind 574 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 3: of what you think. I mean, how much of a 575 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 3: step back do you think we'll see? Well, we see 576 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 3: a forty home run guy, fifty home run guy. What 577 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 3: do you think cal Rawley's season looks like after making 578 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 3: history last year? 579 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's hard to expect the same type of thing. 580 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 7: I mean, that was historic what he did last year, 581 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 7: sixty home runs, and there's been a handful of guys 582 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 7: ever in the history of the game that have done that. 583 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 7: So a step back doesn't necessarily mean a bad thing. 584 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 7: And I know you're not insinuating that would be I mean, 585 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 7: you know what he have, you know, almost forty the 586 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 7: year before. I kind of think, you know, above average 587 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 7: to good season for him is going to be thirty five. 588 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 7: If he gets over forty, that's a good year. I 589 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 7: mean as well as he doesn't somehow, you know, his 590 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 7: average doesn't roped down to one eighty where he's doing 591 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 7: nothing but you know, going yard or punching out. That 592 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 7: wouldn't be I think as a good season. Even though 593 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 7: in today's day and age, you hit forty homers, they 594 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 7: don't really care what your bating average is, right, I 595 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 7: think that you're gonna I think you've got a guy 596 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,479 Speaker 7: that's a far more polished hitter now there. For his 597 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 7: first couple of seasons, even when he was putting up 598 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 7: good power numbers, he was a platoon guy. I mean, 599 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 7: he was significantly better from the left side than he 600 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 7: was from the right side. And I think last year 601 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 7: we saw the first year where he was a damn good, 602 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 7: dangerous hitter from both sides of the play. I don't 603 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 7: think that's gonna change. And so I think, you know, 604 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 7: we could start looking at possibly the floor for this 605 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 7: guy being forty home runs and at that point, really 606 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 7: you running into five more pitchers or ten more pitches 607 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 7: to get in forty five or fifty is not that difficult. 608 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 7: It's just a matter of he's not sneaking up on 609 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 7: anybody at this point in time. I mean, he's gonna 610 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 7: get a little bit of the judge treatment. There's gonna 611 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 7: be times when they're gonna make him take his walks. 612 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 7: So to me, it kind of boils down to him, 613 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,959 Speaker 7: you know, controlling his swing, not getting over aggressive. There 614 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 7: was even times last year is awesome. That season was 615 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 7: where he wanted to do it all for the team. 616 00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 7: You know, if we were in one of those mode 617 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 7: where we were struggling to score runs, He's like, that's fine, 618 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 7: I'll just go yard because I did it yesterday, and 619 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 7: I did it the day before and the day before that, 620 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 7: and he would overswing and he'd missed the pitch that 621 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 7: needs to hit. The only thing that I would try 622 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 7: to refine if I was cow during the offseason is 623 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 7: just stay short every swing the entire season. Now, that's 624 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 7: not an easy thing to do for a power guy. 625 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 7: You fall in love with the home run, you start 626 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 7: swinging big, and you start missing a couple of pitches 627 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 7: and you got to rein it back in. If he 628 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 7: just kind of comes in and I think if there's 629 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 7: one person that could have something even close to a 630 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 7: repeat like he did, yeah, it would be cow Rawley. 631 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 7: Because of the mental makeup I think that he understands 632 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 7: exactly how to tweak his game to just keep getting 633 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 7: incrementally better and better. Doesn't necessarily mean that he hit 634 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 7: sixty homers, just means he might just have better AB's 635 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 7: all year long. And if so, I don't think forty 636 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 7: or fifty is by any stretch of the imagination out 637 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 7: of the reach. 638 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 3: Love it. Brendan Donovan, Colin Emerson, Cole Young, Kevin Sitzer 639 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 3: among the guests on day two, give us one thing, 640 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 3: one thing that we have to here tomorrow. What's going 641 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 3: on tomorrow morning? 642 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 7: I would say, so Chuck. You know Chuck, He's pretty 643 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 7: much forced a pitcher's day on us. So we're starting 644 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 7: it off with Woody the pitching coach, and then I'm 645 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 7: pretty sure the seven o'clock in eight o'clock hour is 646 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 7: going to be jam packed with the rest of the 647 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 7: starting rotation nice with the exception of Luis Castillo, you 648 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 7: know him, with the interpreter. That's what we're gonna have 649 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 7: to kind of mix in somewhere else later on in 650 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 7: the week. But yeah, we're gonna end up having Kirby 651 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 7: and Logan and Wu and and Bryce Miller all kind 652 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 7: of at seven o'clock and eight o'clock hour. 653 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 3: Hell of it, Well, go do it, man, that's why 654 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 3: you're down there to pick out on Mariner Superstars. So 655 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 3: have fun, enjoy the night tonight. You're all juiced up 656 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 3: for a night of the town. Go have fun, man, 657 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 3: and we'll talk soon. Buddy. 658 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 7: Appreciate it, pal, All right, thanks, I'm going back to bed. 659 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 3: Done. Fuck you, Jacobs said he's not going back to bed. 660 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 3: The big man is ready to eat. Well, get a break, 661 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 3: Brian Schmetzer. God, we haven't heard from him and a 662 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 3: wive and blowing us off. We're gonna ge him next 663 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 3: On ninety three to three KJRFM. 664 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: This is Duke of Duke Seafood and this hour is 665 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: brought to you by Duke Seafood. Why don't you make 666 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: it at Duke's night tonight. Reserve your table today at 667 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: Duke Safood dot com. Now back to Softy and Dick 668 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: on Sports Radio ninety three point three KJR FM. 669 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know about you, Dick, but there's been 670 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 3: something missing in my life lately. Couldn't put a finger 671 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 3: on it. Vegetables, yes, a huge son of a bitch. No, 672 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 3: it's Brian Schmetzer. Oh, of course, who finally on the 673 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 3: radio show after missing out on the program for the 674 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 3: last couple of months. And I don't know, man, A 675 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 3: lot's going on. The Seahawks won the Super Bowl. You 676 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 3: may have heard about that, coach, Oh, I heard about it. 677 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 8: I was tuned in. 678 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 2: But look, credit to Mike. 679 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 8: It was a boring game. 680 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 4: I mean I knew we were been win you know, 681 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 4: as soon as they hit the ball off. 682 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, well you could have told me. We could have 683 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 3: put the house on the on the Hawks and we 684 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 3: could have retired for crying out loud. Well, besides watching 685 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 3: the super Bowl, it's great to be back on the show. 686 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 3: Tell us what your off season was like. Where'd you go? 687 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 3: What'd you do? 688 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 7: Man? 689 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 3: How'd you spend the last couple of months? 690 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 8: Well, actually I took I took a good trip my wife, 691 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 8: you know, Christine. You know, she's busy here making dinner, 692 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 8: cooking me some soup and everything. We've had a laid 693 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 8: back kind of last couple of weeks. But I did 694 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 8: go visit my sister in Germany, and I actually watched 695 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,239 Speaker 8: a Batman game in their in their iconic stadium. There 696 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 8: was eighty thousand people there. But I had a good 697 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 8: time in Germany. We went to we went to Amsterdam 698 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 8: as well for a little trip. So really interesting, really 699 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 8: really good, good off season, get it good to get away. 700 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 5: Is German soccer different than the MLS. They play a 701 00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 5: different style game, they played. 702 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 8: Different Dick, it's you know, Germany's kind of like MLS. 703 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 8: I would say they're more you know, workman like. It's 704 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 8: you know, it's effort and work and everything. But you know, 705 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 8: Dortmund Stadium is iconic. They pack eighty thousand people in there. 706 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 8: I watched a midweek game, you know, the Champions League 707 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 8: League game against the Norwegian team Bodo Glimp and Man, 708 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 8: the place was rocking. It was just like really fun 709 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 8: to see. But MLS just is getting there. I mean, 710 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 8: I couldn't tell too much of the difference. I mean, 711 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 8: obviously the players are more expensive Dortmund's, but you know 712 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 8: we could have hung with the Norwegian team for sure. 713 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 3: I love it. Well, let's talk about the difference in 714 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 3: your team. The biggest one is, oh, bet Vargas is 715 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 3: no longer here, in case you haven't heard, sold to 716 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 3: Atletico Madrid. Obviously, good for him, gets a dream chance 717 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 3: to go back there. But you got to replace a 718 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 3: big hole on the roster. How do you do it? 719 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 8: Well, we've got two different options. And know, look, I'm 720 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 8: going to give you probably a couple of scoops, so 721 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 8: I I'm sure you're going to talk about the goalkeeping 722 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 8: situation next. But you know, we signed Hassani Dotson, we 723 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 8: got Snyder Burnell. You know, good genes in that family. 724 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 8: But those two guys are you know, competing for Obed's minutes. 725 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 8: And I would say, you know, Hassani's been a really 726 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 8: good and pleasant surprise because we knew he was good 727 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 8: in Minnesota. I mean, when we're watching opponents, you're gonna 728 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 8: get a feel for what guys are all about. But 729 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 8: when he's come in camp and you really look at 730 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 8: him up close and you get to see exactly what 731 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 8: he can do, he's been really impressive. And then Snyder 732 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 8: is another one of our young crop of kids coming 733 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 8: through the academy and through Defiance. Kid's gonna make it. 734 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 7: I can. 735 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 8: I can tell you that softy he's gonna make it 736 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 8: in pro sports. How high he goes? Can he go 737 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 8: as high as Obed? 738 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 7: Maybe? No, there's I don't know. 739 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,240 Speaker 5: Coach Pedro de la Vegas starting the season still injured 740 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 5: from that broken kneecap last year. What's the time line 741 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 5: there and how do you feel about your offense right now, 742 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 5: particularly without him? 743 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 8: Well, Dick, that was a blow. I mean that was 744 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 8: a big blow. We could have used him in the 745 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 8: playoffs last year. I'm not expecting to see him until 746 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 8: right around either just before the World Cup or just 747 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 8: after the World Cup break. I mean, it was a 748 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 8: pretty significant injury. But look, I've got another young kid 749 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 8: that's come up and is hungry. Osasee di Rosario scored 750 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 8: two goals against Hammerby scored two goals in the last 751 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 8: preseason tune up match against Louisville the USL team, So 752 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 8: he's really done really well. Jordan is there, Masoski's there, 753 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 8: Paul Rothrock's there. Offense is looking pretty good. 754 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 3: Right all right, Well you mentioned the goalkeeper situation, so 755 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 3: let's just get right to it. We're here at the 756 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 3: cracking ice plex. By the way, we had Lane Lambert 757 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 3: on the air talking about Joey to Cord and Philip 758 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 3: Grubauer and he played a little political. We got two 759 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 3: number ones. You know, wouldn't really pick one of the 760 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 3: if there was a must win game, tomorrow. But what 761 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 3: about you? I mean, is it the old man Stephen Fryer, 762 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 3: the up and coming kid and Andrew Thomas. What's your plan? 763 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 8: Well, I also have two number one goalkeepers. But look, 764 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 8: anybody that watched or paid attention to the lineup on 765 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 8: Sunday versus Louisville knows that Andrew was the starter there. 766 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 4: Look, Steph had. 767 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 8: An unfortunate thing happened to him. His mom passed away 768 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 8: and he had to go home from Spain preseason a 769 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 8: little early. Andrew's going to get the nod to start 770 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 8: the season off. But you know, I'm blessed at that position. 771 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 8: I've got real quality in the starter and the backup, 772 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 8: whichever way I go. 773 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 5: You mentioned roth Rock getting him back maybe came as 774 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 5: a surprise to a lot of people. Was it a 775 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 5: surprise to you? And what do you have planned for 776 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 5: him this year? 777 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 2: It was a surprise, Dick, I thought he was gone. 778 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 8: The kid who you know? I mean, look, a lot 779 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 8: of soccer players, you know, they grabbed the crest to 780 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 8: the jersey, you know, and they kissed the crest and 781 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 8: all that after they score. Well, Paul Rothrock actually put 782 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 8: his money where his mouth is because he left a 783 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 8: couple hundred grand on the table. He could have signed 784 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,399 Speaker 8: in Dallas, hed San Jose. There were teams after him, 785 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 8: and he decided to stay and play for his hometown 786 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 8: team at a discount. And I got a lot of 787 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 8: time for that. And so he's been, you know, great 788 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 8: at training. You know, I love having a kid, high energy, 789 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 8: you know, smart soccer player, all the things that I love. 790 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 3: Right, all right, Well, Colorado Sunday, right, first game of 791 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 3: the year, six to twenty five, kickoff right here on 792 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 3: the big FM stick on Sunday against Colorado. What do 793 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 3: you think about the match on Sunday and your opponent, man, well. 794 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,359 Speaker 8: New coach, So we don't know exactly how they're going 795 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 8: to line up. We've been trying to watch as much film. 796 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 8: But look, the deal is, softly, we've got one home 797 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 8: game and we've got six road games because of you know, 798 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,879 Speaker 8: they're putting the grass down and putting the grass down 799 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 8: to the World Cup at Lumen. So we are going 800 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 8: to come out firing because we know that home games 801 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 8: are critical in MLS. We've got to come out and win, 802 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 8: get three points against Colorado and then try and you know, 803 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 8: get some road points because that's not going to be 804 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 8: an easy. 805 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 3: Stress, no doubt. All Right, listen, we're good now for 806 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 3: the duration every Tuesday. Lock it in. You belong to. 807 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 5: Us for the rest of the year, all the way 808 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,919 Speaker 5: through the MLS Cup, because that's where they're going. 809 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 8: That's right, that's December eighteenth. I can tell you that day. 810 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 8: We'll be together for a. 811 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:31,839 Speaker 7: Long time us. 812 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 3: Good god, this is a long season. Unbelievable man. All right, Brian, 813 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 3: great stuff. Go get him on Sunday and we're talking. 814 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 7: A week all right, all right, take care guys. 815 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 3: All right, Brian Schmetzer with us, we're gonna break