WEBVTT - Repeat: Rhodesian Bush War

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<v Speaker 1>The Jesse Kelly Show in woooo Indeed it is time

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<v Speaker 1>to do history. I will be back with more politics

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<v Speaker 1>in the final hour, where we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the COVID shot information that's coming out another museum, heighist,

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<v Speaker 1>medical schools are horrible, people are leaving college. I'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to emails. All that stuff is coming, but it ain't

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<v Speaker 1>coming right now because it is our two and we

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<v Speaker 1>are smack dab in the middle of our history on

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<v Speaker 1>the Rhodesian Bush War. Again reminding you parts one and

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<v Speaker 1>part two with all kinds of background that was last

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<v Speaker 1>night in the night before you got to go download

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast if you want that. I think you will

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<v Speaker 1>find it helpful. Not a requirement at all to understand

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<v Speaker 1>kind of where we're at now where we pick up today,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it would be incredibly helpful. Now, let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the state of Rhodesia. Let's first talk about voting,

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<v Speaker 1>shall we. I posed a question to you last night

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of our little history segment. I posed

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<v Speaker 1>the question to you about us, about our country, your country,

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<v Speaker 1>my country, who should be able to vote? And I

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<v Speaker 1>think we agreed last night that there should be some restrictions,

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<v Speaker 1>right We may disagree on what those restrictions might be.

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<v Speaker 1>But you don't want ten year olds to have a vote, right.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want felons sitting in the joint getting ready

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the electric chair tomorrow. You don't want

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<v Speaker 1>them to have a vote, right. You don't want illegals

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<v Speaker 1>to vote to you. Okay, So no matter what you agree,

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<v Speaker 1>there should be some restrictions. Now, I'm going to play

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<v Speaker 1>you something. I know we're doing history, but I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to play you something I played at last hour. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>Shri Indiana Jones of Michigan. I am sick of your lies.

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<v Speaker 1>The American people are sick of this lies. American people

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<v Speaker 1>demand truth America. Is there do you think if we

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<v Speaker 1>add higher voting standards in this country that Sri Indiana

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<v Speaker 1>Jones would be a member of Congress? Play Chris, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what? Give me a favorite, Chris grab Hank Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>Guam Ticking Tipping over. We haven't played that one in ages.

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<v Speaker 1>It's years and years and years old. I think this

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<v Speaker 1>might be ten years old. The reason I bring it

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<v Speaker 1>up is Hank Johnson just got done calling America the

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<v Speaker 1>great Satan.

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<v Speaker 2>We are the world's number one bully, and we're using

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<v Speaker 2>our immense, unrifled power to rule over those who have

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<v Speaker 2>less power, and we're doing it with him unity. And

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<v Speaker 2>this sends a shocking message to the world that America

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<v Speaker 2>is indeed, uh the what did what did they used

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<v Speaker 2>to call the Great Hand of Satan or something?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the same Hank Johnson back in the day who

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<v Speaker 1>said this, this is a island that at its.

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<v Speaker 3>Widest level is what twelve miles from shore to shore

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<v Speaker 3>and at its smallest level, the smallest location, it's seven miles.

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<v Speaker 1>Between one shore and the other.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have the exact dimensions, but to your point, sir,

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<v Speaker 3>I think Guam is a small island.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>My fear is that the whole island will become so

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<v Speaker 4>overly populated that it will tip over and.

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<v Speaker 3>Capsize.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't anticipate that. Let me ask you an honest question,

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<v Speaker 1>funny as that is, if we had higher voting standards

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<v Speaker 1>in this country, do you think that person would still

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<v Speaker 1>be in Congress making decisions on laws that govern the

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<v Speaker 1>most powerful country on the planet, of course not. Rhodesia

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<v Speaker 1>was the wealthiest country in all of Africa. As I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned several times, already paved roads, wonderful schools, doctors, lawyers,

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<v Speaker 1>great standard of living. You would have thought you were

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<v Speaker 1>in any modern American city. The rest of Africa, not

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<v Speaker 1>all of it, but most of the rest of Africa

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<v Speaker 1>living in backwards conditions. And then there's this jewel in Rhodesia.

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<v Speaker 1>So who got to pick the government of Rhodesia. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>there were changes over time, by the way, but in

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<v Speaker 1>general you had to qualify to vote, and contrary to

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<v Speaker 1>what all the do gooder kamis around the world said

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, part of the qualification was not the

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<v Speaker 1>color of your skin, but there were literacy requirements, property qualifications,

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<v Speaker 1>you had to be a subject of the British Empire.

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<v Speaker 1>There were things, and I don't want to get too specific,

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<v Speaker 1>because they changed, you know, pre nineteen sixty one they

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<v Speaker 1>were more strict. Then Rhodesia to try to roll back

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<v Speaker 1>some things started to ease those restrictions. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on the voting roles, for instance, in nineteen sixty one,

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<v Speaker 1>there were ninety five thousand white people who were able

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<v Speaker 1>to vote and there were twenty two hundred Black Africans

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<v Speaker 1>who were able to vote. It was not barring any

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<v Speaker 1>skin color. But because the qualifications were what they were,

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<v Speaker 1>because there were standards, a large percentage of the white

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<v Speaker 1>Europeans in Rhodesia could vote and a very small percentage

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<v Speaker 1>of the Black Africans could vote. Now that sounds extremely,

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<v Speaker 1>extremely discriminatory, doesn't it. That sounds wrong. Surely everybody who

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<v Speaker 1>reaches the age of eighteen should have a say in

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<v Speaker 1>the government, right. And the reason I bring this up

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<v Speaker 1>is it's going to become a central theme of our story.

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<v Speaker 1>Rhodesia didn't see it that way. Rhodesia enjoyed its standard

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<v Speaker 1>of living, enjoyed the kind of country it was. But

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<v Speaker 1>here's a problem, you see, and it's a big problem.

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<v Speaker 1>You've heard of the Labor government, the Labor Party, I

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<v Speaker 1>should say, of Britain. I've told you before, that's their Democrats,

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<v Speaker 1>that's their Communist Party. Those are the ones who run Britain. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why they're massively importing Muslims from all over the

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<v Speaker 1>planet to form rape gangs, to pillage the British women.

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<v Speaker 1>The Labor Party, well in the nineteen sixties, there are

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<v Speaker 1>things going on globally that are going to essentially doom

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<v Speaker 1>Rhodesia in the end. And one of those things is

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<v Speaker 1>the Labor Party was running things in Britain. Combine that

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<v Speaker 1>with this, the airfingers quote civil rights movement globally is

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<v Speaker 1>really really reaching its peak. Now why did I say

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<v Speaker 1>airfingers quote Because the civil rights movement surely was only good, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think you would agree with me that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably not great to have black people eating at

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<v Speaker 1>different restaurants, and that's not a great way to run society.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not a just way to run society. The reason

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<v Speaker 1>I gave the airfingers quote thing on it was, well,

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<v Speaker 1>remember what we talked about last hour. I've spoken before

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<v Speaker 1>about this many times. Let me use the example I've

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<v Speaker 1>used before in Montana in the Rocky Mountains. If you

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<v Speaker 1>hike through the Rocky Mountains in an area full of boulders,

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<v Speaker 1>you will inevitably come across one that looks It looks

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<v Speaker 1>like God pulled out his sword and sliced it in half.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just broken, it's this clean, smooth break, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's odd looking. We're talking about a boulder the size

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<v Speaker 1>of your car sliced in two. Only God didn't use

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<v Speaker 1>his sword. You see, over time that boulder developed a

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<v Speaker 1>little crack, not big, you might not even really see

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<v Speaker 1>it with your eye, a little crack. What happened from there? Water, inevitably,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's snow melting, maybe it's rain. Water would get

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<v Speaker 1>in it, and then one night the temperature would drop

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<v Speaker 1>to such a degree that water would freeze. When water freezes,

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<v Speaker 1>it expands. When it expanded, pop the rock shattered into

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<v Speaker 1>This is exactly what communists do in every single society.

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<v Speaker 1>They find existing cracks, legitimate cracks, by the way, oftentimes

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<v Speaker 1>legitimate cracks. They find the cracks in your society, They

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<v Speaker 1>get inside of that crack and they try to freeze

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<v Speaker 1>it to shatter the society. And the global communists most definitely,

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<v Speaker 1>the Soviets recognize the civil rights movement, not just in

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<v Speaker 1>America but other places, but the civil rights movement as

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<v Speaker 1>an incredible opportunity for them to shatter the country, and

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<v Speaker 1>they got it involved in it. They were very focused

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<v Speaker 1>about being involved in it. They viewed it as an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to break America, to break Western civilization. This was

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<v Speaker 1>going on in many different countries in the nineteen sixties. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I already laid out the government of Rhodesia at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you think their government, how do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that's landing with the global civil rights do gooders on

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<v Speaker 1>the planet. Let me spoil it for you. It ain't

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<v Speaker 1>landing well, and Britain decides they want to do something

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Uh oh, we'll be back days the Jesse

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly Show on a magnificent magnificent Thursday. Do not forget

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow's ask doctor Jesse Friday. You need to email your questions.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't have to be political, doesn't matter what it is, history, food, whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Email them into Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. It

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<v Speaker 1>is the nineteen sixties. The civil rights movement across the

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<v Speaker 1>globe has been invaded and infected by communists doing the

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<v Speaker 1>best they can to divide Western society. And of course

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<v Speaker 1>Britain has their communists as well. We have our Democrats,

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<v Speaker 1>they have their Labor Party, the Labor government in Britain.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't like the look of Rhodesia right now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>of course it's wealthy, it's prosperous, it's clean, it's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>But not everyone gets to vote. In fact, not very

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<v Speaker 1>many Black Africans get to vote. Lots of white Europeans

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<v Speaker 1>get to vote, and so they start pushing. Remember at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, Rhodesia is a British colony. I cannot stress

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<v Speaker 1>that enough. A British colony, meaning they are under the

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<v Speaker 1>British crown. Says, uh, how about one man, one vote,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone gets to vote. Well, the government, the people of Rhodesia,

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<v Speaker 1>they understandably said, excuse me, look around at Africa. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have any idea what's going to happen if we

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<v Speaker 1>allow everybody to have a vote with no property requirements

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<v Speaker 1>and know nothing of it. Do you understand what will

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<v Speaker 1>happen here? The whole place will be over all this prosperity.

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<v Speaker 1>The communists didn't want to hear it. One man, one vote,

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<v Speaker 1>one man, one vote, over and over and over and

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<v Speaker 1>over again. Now Rhodesia has to make a choice. And

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<v Speaker 1>keep in mind that I'm really skipping over some boring

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<v Speaker 1>political negotiations. But Rhodesia's government they were trying as hard

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<v Speaker 1>as they could to do whatever they had to do

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<v Speaker 1>to work with Britain. So they didn't have to do

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<v Speaker 1>well what they're about to do, meaning in nineteen sixty one,

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<v Speaker 1>they even changed how they do the voting. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>change it completely, but they opened it up a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more, kind of introduced tiars to it. You could

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<v Speaker 1>be in the A tier. The beat again their work.

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<v Speaker 1>They're trying to massage the situation without giving up their country.

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<v Speaker 1>Britain did not want to hear it. The Communists in

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<v Speaker 1>Britain did not want to hear it, and they said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you will do this, and so Rhodesia they rebelled. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no other way to put it. In nineteen sixty five,

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<v Speaker 1>rhodesha said, yeah, we're not a British colony anymore. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we're ours, We're Rhodesia, we're independent and this is how

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to run things.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Now pause for a second. You have probably heard of

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<v Speaker 1>the SAS before, the Special Air Service. If you have not,

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<v Speaker 1>you should know that that is the British version of

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<v Speaker 1>the Navy's and in fact they came about really because

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<v Speaker 1>of the British fighting in Northern Africa. They were the

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<v Speaker 1>guys parachuting behind enemy lines doing all kinds of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>special operations stuff. They are to this day, bad to

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<v Speaker 1>the bone, bad dudes. The British SAS well. Up to

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<v Speaker 1>this point, remember we're in the sixties. Rhodesia's military they

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<v Speaker 1>would work hand in hand with Britain's military because again

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<v Speaker 1>it's a British colony, and Rhodesia had an SAS as

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<v Speaker 1>well that trained with the British sas. Super super bad dudes.

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<v Speaker 1>You get what I'm saying. Rhodesia declares independence in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty five. Britain is so angry about this, they actually

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<v Speaker 1>consider a military response to the open rebellion of the

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<v Speaker 1>Rhodesian country of the Rhodesian government, and they approached the

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<v Speaker 1>British sas and start talking to them about it. The

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<v Speaker 1>British SAS had such a level of respect for the

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<v Speaker 1>Rhodesians they had trained with and worked with, the British

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<v Speaker 1>government essentially faced a mutiny from within their own high

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<v Speaker 1>level sas. The guys weren't going to go Nah, I'm good,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not. You want me to attack Rhodesia. Nah, Now

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<v Speaker 1>you got to do something. If you're the British government, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't let open rebellion go, especially these white racists

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<v Speaker 1>in Rhodesia. And again, I want to remind you of

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<v Speaker 1>something I reminded you of last night. Over half of

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<v Speaker 1>the Rhodesian army was black Africans. This is not a

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<v Speaker 1>white versus black thing. How it was sold to the planet.

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<v Speaker 1>Black Africans died with their European brothers in this war.

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<v Speaker 1>Europeans would give their lives to save Black Africans in

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<v Speaker 1>this war. This wasn't some Nazi that's not at all.

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<v Speaker 1>How it was. Yes, there were fewer black voters, no

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<v Speaker 1>question about it. It was not a white versus black thing. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Britain has to do something. So they essentially get the world,

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<v Speaker 1>that really most of the civilized world, to sanction Rhodesia.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a country that is landlocked. Keep in mind

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<v Speaker 1>they have no access to water, anything like that. Britain

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<v Speaker 1>slaps sanctions strict ones on Rhodesia. Now, this would normally

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<v Speaker 1>be about the end of any landlocked country, but Rhodesia,

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<v Speaker 1>to their credit, they had a couple of friends and

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<v Speaker 1>those friends happen to be neighbors. We'll talk about those

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<v Speaker 1>friends some combat things in a moment. We'll be back.

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<v Speaker 1>Jes It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a fantastic,

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<v Speaker 1>fantastic Thursday. Remember to send in your ask Doctor Jesse

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<v Speaker 1>questions for tomorrow. Remember you can download the show iheard Spotify, iTunes,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get back to the story here. Nineteen sixty five,

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<v Speaker 1>Rhodja declares it's independence. Britain is upset, to put it mildly,

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<v Speaker 1>they get the rest of the world and they themselves

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<v Speaker 1>slap crippling sanctions on Rhodesia, or I should say what

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<v Speaker 1>should be crippling sanctions on Rhodesia. But Rhodesia has a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends. Now we need to do something that

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<v Speaker 1>I did with you the first night, but we're probably

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do this a couple more times because you have

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<v Speaker 1>to visualize this. You don't have to look at a map.

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<v Speaker 1>You can, but I want you to draw a circle

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<v Speaker 1>in your mind, or maybe you can draw one of

0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:02.880
<v Speaker 1>if you're a visual person. I want you to make

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<v Speaker 1>this a clock. Okay, so it's a clock. Now. From

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<v Speaker 1>twelve o'clock to six o'clock, that's obviously half o'clock, there

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<v Speaker 1>is a country known as Mozambique, all right, Mozambique. From

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<v Speaker 1>twelve o'clock over to let's call it ten o'clock, there

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<v Speaker 1>is a country known as Zambia. All right. From six

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock to about eight o'clock there is South Africa. Why

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<v Speaker 1>am I doing this? Slame clock thing, because it matters

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<v Speaker 1>so much for our story. South Africa. We will begin there.

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<v Speaker 1>South Africa and Rhodesia are as tight as tight can get.

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<v Speaker 1>There are so many South Africans in Rhodesia. They love

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<v Speaker 1>each other, they work together, they have similar forms of

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<v Speaker 1>They are best, best, best freaking friends. As far as

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<v Speaker 1>countries go. South Africa is a friend. When these sanctions

0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:13.920
<v Speaker 1>get slapped on Rhodesia, South Africa steps up and says, hey,

0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:17.480
<v Speaker 1>we got you, sell us your stuff. We'll continue to

0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:21.000
<v Speaker 1>trade with each other. South Africa also has and this

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<v Speaker 1>will definitely matter for our story throughout our story. They

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<v Speaker 1>have that wonderful, wonderful liquid gold known as oil. They

0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:36.080
<v Speaker 1>keep Rhodesia's well supplied with oil. They have a friend. Now,

0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:40.120
<v Speaker 1>let's go to Mozambique. Remember the twelve o'clock, six o'clock, big,

0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:46.960
<v Speaker 1>big border with Rhodesia. They're also friendly because Mozambique at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, and this will change. Spoiler alert, this is

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<v Speaker 1>going to change. Mozambique is run by the Portuguese, all right,

0:19:54.920 --> 0:20:00.679
<v Speaker 1>the Portuguese Rhodesia. They get along. They are still working

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<v Speaker 1>with each other, trading. Zambia the country in the Northwest.

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<v Speaker 1>Forget about them. We are going to get to them.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to be featured here shortly. But Rhodesia has friends.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the result of this. They declare independence. All these

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<v Speaker 1>sanctions they're supposed to be bankrupted, Rhodesia's flourishing, flourishing. They

0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:29.240
<v Speaker 1>went independent and they're getting along really, really well. Now

0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:35.320
<v Speaker 1>we have to go globally again because this will matter

0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:40.480
<v Speaker 1>for the rest of our story. Communists, it's a religion

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<v Speaker 1>of destruction and domination. As we've talked about so many

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<v Speaker 1>times before, communism was never supposed to be about any

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<v Speaker 1>one country. Communism was always designed, always pushed as being

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<v Speaker 1>a global thing. At this point in history, the Soviet

0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Union is churnin and burning, China churning and burning. These

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<v Speaker 1>are communist countries and they are very very interested in

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<v Speaker 1>spreading their communism globally. And they are then, just as

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<v Speaker 1>they are now, very very interested in the continent of Africa.

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<v Speaker 1>Africa is gigantic, it is strategically located. They have all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of resources that every country wants. The communist nations

0:21:30.640 --> 0:21:34.719
<v Speaker 1>on the planet want Africa, and they want all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And they recognize there's an opportunity. Here. We have this

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<v Speaker 1>country called Rhodesia. Britain has cut them off, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>a crack, isn't there. We're ready to discuss that crack.

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<v Speaker 1>There are all kinds of little villages and African reservations,

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<v Speaker 1>essentially in Rhodesia, Black Africans who have not had a

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<v Speaker 1>standard of living equal to the white Europeans. There's enough

0:22:07.000 --> 0:22:11.679
<v Speaker 1>of a crack there that can be exploited. And now

0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:22.639
<v Speaker 1>terrorism starts. Terrorism mainly from Zambia. Zambia. Remember it's that

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<v Speaker 1>twelve o'clock to ten o'clock the northwestern border, that's Zambia.

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<v Speaker 1>The Soviets and the Chinese both form groups African communist,

0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:40.480
<v Speaker 1>African nationalists, whatever word you want to put on it,

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<v Speaker 1>African groups, and they decide they're going to have a

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<v Speaker 1>go at conquering Rhodesia. And they weren't even that subtle

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<v Speaker 1>about it. The Soviets freaking gave them tanks. They would

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<v Speaker 1>send advisors, Chinese advisors, Soviet advisors. How involved are the

0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Soviets and Chinese and this will matter for the rest

0:23:02.720 --> 0:23:06.919
<v Speaker 1>of our story. They would take African leaders and they

0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:11.159
<v Speaker 1>would ship them to places like the Soviet Union, like China,

0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:15.200
<v Speaker 1>like East Germany, and they would ship them there for training.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean in depth training, not just weapons training,

0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:25.040
<v Speaker 1>not just battle tactics. I'm talking about insurgency tactics, communist tactics.

0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:28.280
<v Speaker 1>How do you infect a place? How do you infiltrate

0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:32.240
<v Speaker 1>a place? How do you destroy a place? Training camps

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<v Speaker 1>for the Africans put on by the Soviets and the Chinese,

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<v Speaker 1>and the poor Rhodesians don't even understand what is about

0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:45.439
<v Speaker 1>to come their way, but they do. The night a

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<v Speaker 1>white farmer, it's nineteen sixty six, a white farmer and

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<v Speaker 1>his wife, they are ambushed and slaughtered on their farm.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to set up something here. I already mentioned.

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<v Speaker 1>Rhodesia is a huge country. I mentioned that last night.

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<v Speaker 1>Not so much night, it's this is a very very

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<v Speaker 1>big place. It's not a small country. And they of

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<v Speaker 1>course have these cities, these urban areas. But as I've said, farming, agriculture,

0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:12.160
<v Speaker 1>it's such a wonderful land for that. It's just made

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<v Speaker 1>for that. It was a huge part of their economy,

0:24:15.440 --> 0:24:17.080
<v Speaker 1>huge part of what they did. And there were these

0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:21.959
<v Speaker 1>huge farms that the Europeans ran and owned, and they

0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:24.919
<v Speaker 1>had of course Africans working on their Black Africans working

0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:28.640
<v Speaker 1>with them, and things like that. But these farms, as

0:24:28.640 --> 0:24:30.680
<v Speaker 1>you can imagine, you can't put a farm in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the city. They are rural, rural farms. They're

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<v Speaker 1>out there, they're in the hinter lands. They're not right

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<v Speaker 1>next to the cop shop. This creates a security nightmare

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<v Speaker 1>for Rhodesian farmers. There will come a day we're not

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<v Speaker 1>there yet in our story where farmers will have twelve

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<v Speaker 1>foot high security fences all around their homes because they

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<v Speaker 1>were worried their kids couldn't go to the in the

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<v Speaker 1>yard without a bunch of guerrillas chopping them up with machetes.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how dangerous this situation is. But they don't know

0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:09.840
<v Speaker 1>this yet, right because the terror hasn't started. Well, the

0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:13.000
<v Speaker 1>terror just began nineteen sixty six, white farmer and his

0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:20.320
<v Speaker 1>wife butchered, butchered, and the Communists in Africa, in the

0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:23.879
<v Speaker 1>Soviet Union in China, they want the terror to increase,

0:25:25.119 --> 0:25:29.600
<v Speaker 1>and they found I was about to say an unlikely ally,

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:34.760
<v Speaker 1>but anyone even vaguely familiar with our political situation in

0:25:34.800 --> 0:25:39.119
<v Speaker 1>the United States of America will understand it's the most

0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:43.840
<v Speaker 1>likely ally in the world, wouldn't you know it, Young

0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:50.240
<v Speaker 1>college girls started to help the international communists smuggle in

0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:55.520
<v Speaker 1>weapons they could use to commit acts of terror. As

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<v Speaker 1>I have said many times, there is no more vicious,

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:04.200
<v Speaker 1>violent communist on the planet than the liberal white woman.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a fact. So we will continue with all

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<v Speaker 1>this in a moment. Is the Jesse Kelly Show on

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<v Speaker 1>a fantastic Thursday getting ready to move into Ask doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Friday. Get your questions emailed into Jesse at Jesse

0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:24.119
<v Speaker 1>kellyshow dot com. Back to our story of the Rhodesian

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<v Speaker 1>bush War, terrorist attacks have begun. Russia has their own

0:26:30.080 --> 0:26:34.439
<v Speaker 1>group of African nationalists communists. China has their group of

0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:40.600
<v Speaker 1>African Nationalists communists. They are receiving training. Now again, it's

0:26:40.680 --> 0:26:43.000
<v Speaker 1>not that I'm apologizing, but I'm just gonna drop more

0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:47.240
<v Speaker 1>details on you because the details are actually necessary. Most

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:49.239
<v Speaker 1>of the time, details kill a story. But you have

0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:56.800
<v Speaker 1>to understand this, two different groups of African nationalists communists. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>there is ZAPU. I going to go into what it

0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 1>stands for. That's a detail, doesn't matter. Zapu backed by

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:11.879
<v Speaker 1>the Soviets. Then there's Zanu backed by the Chinese don't

0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:14.240
<v Speaker 1>worry about making sure you know who's back by who.

0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:19.200
<v Speaker 1>Zapu backed by the Soviets, Zanu backed by the Chinese.

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:23.159
<v Speaker 1>These organizations, as I said, are being trained by the

0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:28.159
<v Speaker 1>Soviets in the Chinese in infiltration tactics. Rhodesia is not

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:31.520
<v Speaker 1>fully aware of it yet, but war has already been

0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 1>declared on them by the Soviets in the Chinese, who

0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 1>want to make Rhodesia a communist country, and they start

0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:43.960
<v Speaker 1>by sending rebels over the border. In fact, let me

0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:46.320
<v Speaker 1>give you a summary of how this war is going

0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:48.960
<v Speaker 1>to go. Not to spoil the ending, but you probably

0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:51.119
<v Speaker 1>get it by now. Let me give you a summary

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 1>of how this war is going to go. There aren't

0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:57.760
<v Speaker 1>that many white Europeans in Rhodesia, right, two hundred thousand,

0:27:57.800 --> 0:28:00.359
<v Speaker 1>give or take two hundred thousand of them. That big

0:28:00.400 --> 0:28:02.800
<v Speaker 1>of a military twenty thousand again, give or take. It's

0:28:02.800 --> 0:28:06.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna depend on the time period twenty thousand. In the military,

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:10.199
<v Speaker 1>the Communists are going to start setting up shop in

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:13.800
<v Speaker 1>the countries around Rhodesia, and they're going to start making

0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:18.560
<v Speaker 1>incursions into the country. The military is going to fly

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 1>out and kill this incursion and kill that incursion, they

0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:24.800
<v Speaker 1>find ten guys here and twenty guys there, and they

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:28.920
<v Speaker 1>find this, and they find that. But over time, as

0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:35.560
<v Speaker 1>the world retreats on poor Rhodesia, the incursions increase in volume,

0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 1>increase in frequency. You understand, this is the very beginning

0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 1>of it. We're in like nineteen sixty six here. What's

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:49.920
<v Speaker 1>happening now is the Rhodesian military, which is elite, absolutely elite.

0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:52.640
<v Speaker 1>Are There are a few different elements to the military.

0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 1>I want to mention right now. They have an air force.

0:28:56.320 --> 0:28:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Remember when I said South Africa and Rhodesia are super tight.

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 1>About half of the Rhodesian air Force is actually South African,

0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:08.600
<v Speaker 1>South African pilots, South African planes. That's how tight they are.

0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 1>That will matter later on. So there's an air force.

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:15.640
<v Speaker 1>They have the Rhodesian Light Infantry. Again, I want to

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:18.960
<v Speaker 1>stress over half of the Rhodesian Light Infantry were Black Africans.

0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 1>This is not a white versus black war. The Rhodesian

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 1>Light Infantry amazing troops, amazing troops again, outdoor people, rugged people,

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:32.840
<v Speaker 1>mandatory military service. They were amazing troops. And then there

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 1>were actually two different kind of special operations forces, Special

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:44.240
<v Speaker 1>Green Berets, Navy seals. Okay, there were the Rhodesian sas

0:29:44.320 --> 0:29:47.760
<v Speaker 1>I already mentioned them earlier, bad dudes. And then there

0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 1>is another group super super cool called the Cellus Scouts

0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:54.960
<v Speaker 1>or Seleuse Scouts. I've heard it pronounced a thousand different

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:56.880
<v Speaker 1>ways as I was doing my research for the show.

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<v Speaker 1>These are all excellent units, top tiering units. They are

0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 1>having no problem hunting down and wiping out these rebels

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:11.240
<v Speaker 1>right now because there simply aren't enough of them. You

0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:14.240
<v Speaker 1>should know, the first group of rebels who came across

0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:16.920
<v Speaker 1>the border was not a big group, got hunted down

0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 1>and annihilated almost immediately. They get located, hunted down, annihilated.

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:26.760
<v Speaker 1>The air force is used, helicopters are used to they

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 1>have to stay mobile because there aren't enough of them

0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 1>to just be stationed all over the country. They have

0:30:33.120 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 1>to put them in various spots and then be ready

0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 1>to hop on a plane, hop on a helicopter, and

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:41.959
<v Speaker 1>get where you're going. The use of parachutes and helicopters

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 1>is something that will last throughout this war. All right,

0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 1>group comes in, gets wiped out. Group comes in, gets

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:55.240
<v Speaker 1>wiped out. The Communists, though they're starting to get smarter

0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 1>as they fail what they had initially tried to do.

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Who was, as I mentioned, terrorist tactics. Hey, let's butcher

0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 1>a farmer in the family, Let's throw a let's throw

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 1>a bomb in an ice cream shop. Let's just basic

0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:13.959
<v Speaker 1>what you would kind of recognize today as more Jihati

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:19.600
<v Speaker 1>terror tactics. But the Rhodesian military, the Rhodesian intelligence service

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 1>was so good. These tactics weren't working that great. They

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 1>wanted the Kammis needed more power, and so they started

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 1>to do something. They started to set up secret camps

0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:43.080
<v Speaker 1>inside of the country, inside Rhodesia. Remember it's a huge place,

0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:46.960
<v Speaker 1>so you don't just send in ten idiots from Zambia.

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 1>You try to set up camps inside. Now, we were

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 1>about to get to a point where it's going to

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 1>get very difficult on the Rhodesians. But they're definitely winning

0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 1>right now. And a huge part of why they're winning

0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:05.520
<v Speaker 1>is these Kammi terrorists are coming from Zambia, virtually all

0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:09.320
<v Speaker 1>of them from Zambia, because Zambia is the one that's

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 1>not a friend. Well, the border between Zambia and Rhodesia

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<v Speaker 1>is a big river. Rivers help provide security because they're

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<v Speaker 1>hard to cross. They're hard to cross unknown, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>The Rhodesians understand. If they simply keep this river monitored,

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<v Speaker 1>keep your patrols up there, you should be able to

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<v Speaker 1>locate and snuff out all the Kami terrorists, either as

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<v Speaker 1>they're coming or shortly after they come. You hunt them down,

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<v Speaker 1>you snuff them out. And I mentioned earlier the sell

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<v Speaker 1>Us Scouts Selus Scouts. I'm just going to call the

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<v Speaker 1>cell Us Scouts. I went to community college. They did

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<v Speaker 1>so much cool stuff. One of the things they were

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<v Speaker 1>so good at the SAS two but was tracking. It's

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<v Speaker 1>wild when you read the books, how these guys track.

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<v Speaker 1>They'd be out there in the bush and they'd come

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<v Speaker 1>across sign that terrorist groups had come, and they would

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<v Speaker 1>just start hunting them like they were animals for a day,

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<v Speaker 1>two days, three days, following the tracks like like like bloodhounds,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they'd finally find them. You make a phone call,

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<v Speaker 1>you bring in the troops. You kill them all. You

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<v Speaker 1>find them, make a phone call, bring in the troops,

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<v Speaker 1>kill them all. And I know we're about to be

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<v Speaker 1>done with our story. I'm gonna get back to politics.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes wounded terrorists trying to get back to Zambia would

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<v Speaker 1>be eaten by crocodiles in the rivers. One guy I

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<v Speaker 1>read a story about he was wounded, got hunted down

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<v Speaker 1>by a lion wild. What's happening? But tomorrow something will

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<v Speaker 1>happen that will spell eventually disaster for the Rhodesians. That's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to wait till tomorrow, or wait Monday, Chris, Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>not Tuesday. No, we're not making them wait till tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not right. No, No tomorrow or Monday. We'll do

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<v Speaker 1>it Monday, all right. Our story continues on Monday. Back

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<v Speaker 1>to politics next