1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,119 Speaker 1: The Jesse Kelly Show in woooo Indeed it is time 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: to do history. I will be back with more politics 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: in the final hour, where we're going to talk about 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: the COVID shot information that's coming out another museum, heighist, 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: medical schools are horrible, people are leaving college. I'll get 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: to emails. All that stuff is coming, but it ain't 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: coming right now because it is our two and we 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: are smack dab in the middle of our history on 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: the Rhodesian Bush War. Again reminding you parts one and 10 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: part two with all kinds of background that was last 11 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: night in the night before you got to go download 12 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: the podcast if you want that. I think you will 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: find it helpful. Not a requirement at all to understand 14 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: kind of where we're at now where we pick up today, 15 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: but I think it would be incredibly helpful. Now, let's 16 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: talk about the state of Rhodesia. Let's first talk about voting, 17 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: shall we. I posed a question to you last night 18 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: at the end of our little history segment. I posed 19 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: the question to you about us, about our country, your country, 20 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: my country, who should be able to vote? And I 21 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: think we agreed last night that there should be some restrictions, 22 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: right We may disagree on what those restrictions might be. 23 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: But you don't want ten year olds to have a vote, right. 24 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: You don't want felons sitting in the joint getting ready 25 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: to go to the electric chair tomorrow. You don't want 26 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: them to have a vote, right. You don't want illegals 27 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: to vote to you. Okay, So no matter what you agree, 28 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: there should be some restrictions. Now, I'm going to play 29 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: you something. I know we're doing history, but I'm going 30 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: to play you something I played at last hour. Here's 31 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: Shri Indiana Jones of Michigan. I am sick of your lies. 32 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: The American people are sick of this lies. American people 33 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: demand truth America. Is there do you think if we 34 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: add higher voting standards in this country that Sri Indiana 35 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: Jones would be a member of Congress? Play Chris, you 36 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: know what? Give me a favorite, Chris grab Hank Johnson 37 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: Guam Ticking Tipping over. We haven't played that one in ages. 38 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: It's years and years and years old. I think this 39 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: might be ten years old. The reason I bring it 40 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: up is Hank Johnson just got done calling America the 41 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: great Satan. 42 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 2: We are the world's number one bully, and we're using 43 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 2: our immense, unrifled power to rule over those who have 44 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: less power, and we're doing it with him unity. And 45 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: this sends a shocking message to the world that America 46 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: is indeed, uh the what did what did they used 47 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 2: to call the Great Hand of Satan or something? 48 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: That's the same Hank Johnson back in the day who 49 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: said this, this is a island that at its. 50 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 3: Widest level is what twelve miles from shore to shore 51 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 3: and at its smallest level, the smallest location, it's seven miles. 52 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: Between one shore and the other. 53 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 4: Is that correct? 54 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 3: I don't have the exact dimensions, but to your point, sir, 55 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 3: I think Guam is a small island. 56 00:03:59,120 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 57 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 4: My fear is that the whole island will become so 58 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 4: overly populated that it will tip over and. 59 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 3: Capsize. 60 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: We don't anticipate that. Let me ask you an honest question, 61 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: funny as that is, if we had higher voting standards 62 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: in this country, do you think that person would still 63 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: be in Congress making decisions on laws that govern the 64 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: most powerful country on the planet, of course not. Rhodesia 65 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: was the wealthiest country in all of Africa. As I 66 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: mentioned several times, already paved roads, wonderful schools, doctors, lawyers, 67 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: great standard of living. You would have thought you were 68 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: in any modern American city. The rest of Africa, not 69 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: all of it, but most of the rest of Africa 70 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: living in backwards conditions. And then there's this jewel in Rhodesia. 71 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: So who got to pick the government of Rhodesia. Well, 72 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: there were changes over time, by the way, but in 73 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: general you had to qualify to vote, and contrary to 74 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: what all the do gooder kamis around the world said 75 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: at the time, part of the qualification was not the 76 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: color of your skin, but there were literacy requirements, property qualifications, 77 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: you had to be a subject of the British Empire. 78 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: There were things, and I don't want to get too specific, 79 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: because they changed, you know, pre nineteen sixty one they 80 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: were more strict. Then Rhodesia to try to roll back 81 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: some things started to ease those restrictions. But you know, 82 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: on the voting roles, for instance, in nineteen sixty one, 83 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: there were ninety five thousand white people who were able 84 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: to vote and there were twenty two hundred Black Africans 85 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: who were able to vote. It was not barring any 86 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: skin color. But because the qualifications were what they were, 87 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: because there were standards, a large percentage of the white 88 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: Europeans in Rhodesia could vote and a very small percentage 89 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: of the Black Africans could vote. Now that sounds extremely, 90 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: extremely discriminatory, doesn't it. That sounds wrong. Surely everybody who 91 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: reaches the age of eighteen should have a say in 92 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: the government, right. And the reason I bring this up 93 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: is it's going to become a central theme of our story. 94 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: Rhodesia didn't see it that way. Rhodesia enjoyed its standard 95 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: of living, enjoyed the kind of country it was. But 96 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: here's a problem, you see, and it's a big problem. 97 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: You've heard of the Labor government, the Labor Party, I 98 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: should say, of Britain. I've told you before, that's their Democrats, 99 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: that's their Communist Party. Those are the ones who run Britain. Now, 100 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: that's why they're massively importing Muslims from all over the 101 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: planet to form rape gangs, to pillage the British women. 102 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: The Labor Party, well in the nineteen sixties, there are 103 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: things going on globally that are going to essentially doom 104 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: Rhodesia in the end. And one of those things is 105 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: the Labor Party was running things in Britain. Combine that 106 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: with this, the airfingers quote civil rights movement globally is 107 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: really really reaching its peak. Now why did I say 108 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: airfingers quote Because the civil rights movement surely was only good, right, 109 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: and I think you would agree with me that, Yeah, 110 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: it's probably not great to have black people eating at 111 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: different restaurants, and that's not a great way to run society. 112 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: That's not a just way to run society. The reason 113 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: I gave the airfingers quote thing on it was, well, 114 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: remember what we talked about last hour. I've spoken before 115 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: about this many times. Let me use the example I've 116 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: used before in Montana in the Rocky Mountains. If you 117 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: hike through the Rocky Mountains in an area full of boulders, 118 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: you will inevitably come across one that looks It looks 119 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: like God pulled out his sword and sliced it in half. 120 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: It's not just broken, it's this clean, smooth break, and 121 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: it's odd looking. We're talking about a boulder the size 122 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: of your car sliced in two. Only God didn't use 123 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: his sword. You see, over time that boulder developed a 124 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: little crack, not big, you might not even really see 125 00:08:54,520 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: it with your eye, a little crack. What happened from there? Water, inevitably, 126 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: maybe it's snow melting, maybe it's rain. Water would get 127 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: in it, and then one night the temperature would drop 128 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: to such a degree that water would freeze. When water freezes, 129 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: it expands. When it expanded, pop the rock shattered into 130 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:26,599 Speaker 1: This is exactly what communists do in every single society. 131 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: They find existing cracks, legitimate cracks, by the way, oftentimes 132 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: legitimate cracks. They find the cracks in your society, They 133 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: get inside of that crack and they try to freeze 134 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: it to shatter the society. And the global communists most definitely, 135 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: the Soviets recognize the civil rights movement, not just in 136 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: America but other places, but the civil rights movement as 137 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: an incredible opportunity for them to shatter the country, and 138 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 1: they got it involved in it. They were very focused 139 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: about being involved in it. They viewed it as an 140 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: opportunity to break America, to break Western civilization. This was 141 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: going on in many different countries in the nineteen sixties. Now, 142 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: I already laid out the government of Rhodesia at the time. 143 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: How do you think their government, how do you think 144 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: that's landing with the global civil rights do gooders on 145 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: the planet. Let me spoil it for you. It ain't 146 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: landing well, and Britain decides they want to do something 147 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: about it. Uh oh, we'll be back days the Jesse 148 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: Kelly Show on a magnificent magnificent Thursday. Do not forget 149 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: tomorrow's ask doctor Jesse Friday. You need to email your questions. 150 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: They don't have to be political, doesn't matter what it is, history, food, whatever. 151 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: Email them into Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. It 152 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: is the nineteen sixties. The civil rights movement across the 153 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: globe has been invaded and infected by communists doing the 154 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: best they can to divide Western society. And of course 155 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: Britain has their communists as well. We have our Democrats, 156 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: they have their Labor Party, the Labor government in Britain. 157 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: They don't like the look of Rhodesia right now. Yeah, 158 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: of course it's wealthy, it's prosperous, it's clean, it's wonderful. 159 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: But not everyone gets to vote. In fact, not very 160 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: many Black Africans get to vote. Lots of white Europeans 161 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: get to vote, and so they start pushing. Remember at 162 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: this point, Rhodesia is a British colony. I cannot stress 163 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: that enough. A British colony, meaning they are under the 164 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: British crown. Says, uh, how about one man, one vote, 165 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: everyone gets to vote. Well, the government, the people of Rhodesia, 166 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: they understandably said, excuse me, look around at Africa. Do 167 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: you have any idea what's going to happen if we 168 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: allow everybody to have a vote with no property requirements 169 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: and know nothing of it. Do you understand what will 170 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: happen here? The whole place will be over all this prosperity. 171 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: The communists didn't want to hear it. One man, one vote, 172 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: one man, one vote, over and over and over and 173 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 1: over again. Now Rhodesia has to make a choice. And 174 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: keep in mind that I'm really skipping over some boring 175 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: political negotiations. But Rhodesia's government they were trying as hard 176 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: as they could to do whatever they had to do 177 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: to work with Britain. So they didn't have to do 178 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: well what they're about to do, meaning in nineteen sixty one, 179 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: they even changed how they do the voting. They didn't 180 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: change it completely, but they opened it up a little 181 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: bit more, kind of introduced tiars to it. You could 182 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: be in the A tier. The beat again their work. 183 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: They're trying to massage the situation without giving up their country. 184 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: Britain did not want to hear it. The Communists in 185 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: Britain did not want to hear it, and they said, no, 186 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: you will do this, and so Rhodesia they rebelled. There's 187 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: no other way to put it. In nineteen sixty five, 188 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: rhodesha said, yeah, we're not a British colony anymore. Now 189 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: we're ours, We're Rhodesia, we're independent and this is how 190 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: we're going to run things. 191 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 4: Now. 192 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: Now pause for a second. You have probably heard of 193 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: the SAS before, the Special Air Service. If you have not, 194 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: you should know that that is the British version of 195 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: the Navy's and in fact they came about really because 196 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: of the British fighting in Northern Africa. They were the 197 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: guys parachuting behind enemy lines doing all kinds of you know, 198 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: special operations stuff. They are to this day, bad to 199 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: the bone, bad dudes. The British SAS well. Up to 200 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: this point, remember we're in the sixties. Rhodesia's military they 201 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: would work hand in hand with Britain's military because again 202 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: it's a British colony, and Rhodesia had an SAS as 203 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: well that trained with the British sas. Super super bad dudes. 204 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. Rhodesia declares independence in nineteen 205 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: sixty five. Britain is so angry about this, they actually 206 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: consider a military response to the open rebellion of the 207 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: Rhodesian country of the Rhodesian government, and they approached the 208 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: British sas and start talking to them about it. The 209 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: British SAS had such a level of respect for the 210 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: Rhodesians they had trained with and worked with, the British 211 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: government essentially faced a mutiny from within their own high 212 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: level sas. The guys weren't going to go Nah, I'm good, 213 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: I'm not. You want me to attack Rhodesia. Nah, Now 214 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: you got to do something. If you're the British government, right, 215 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: you can't let open rebellion go, especially these white racists 216 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: in Rhodesia. And again, I want to remind you of 217 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: something I reminded you of last night. Over half of 218 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: the Rhodesian army was black Africans. This is not a 219 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: white versus black thing. How it was sold to the planet. 220 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: Black Africans died with their European brothers in this war. 221 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: Europeans would give their lives to save Black Africans in 222 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: this war. This wasn't some Nazi that's not at all. 223 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: How it was. Yes, there were fewer black voters, no 224 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: question about it. It was not a white versus black thing. Anyway, 225 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: Britain has to do something. So they essentially get the world, 226 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: that really most of the civilized world, to sanction Rhodesia. 227 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: This is a country that is landlocked. Keep in mind 228 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: they have no access to water, anything like that. Britain 229 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: slaps sanctions strict ones on Rhodesia. Now, this would normally 230 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: be about the end of any landlocked country, but Rhodesia, 231 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: to their credit, they had a couple of friends and 232 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 1: those friends happen to be neighbors. We'll talk about those 233 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: friends some combat things in a moment. We'll be back. 234 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: Jes It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a fantastic, 235 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: fantastic Thursday. Remember to send in your ask Doctor Jesse 236 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: questions for tomorrow. Remember you can download the show iheard Spotify, iTunes, 237 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: let's get back to the story here. Nineteen sixty five, 238 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 1: Rhodja declares it's independence. Britain is upset, to put it mildly, 239 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: they get the rest of the world and they themselves 240 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: slap crippling sanctions on Rhodesia, or I should say what 241 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: should be crippling sanctions on Rhodesia. But Rhodesia has a 242 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: couple of friends. Now we need to do something that 243 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: I did with you the first night, but we're probably 244 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: gonna do this a couple more times because you have 245 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: to visualize this. You don't have to look at a map. 246 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 1: You can, but I want you to draw a circle 247 00:17:58,480 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: in your mind, or maybe you can draw one of 248 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: if you're a visual person. I want you to make 249 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: this a clock. Okay, so it's a clock. Now. From 250 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: twelve o'clock to six o'clock, that's obviously half o'clock, there 251 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: is a country known as Mozambique, all right, Mozambique. From 252 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: twelve o'clock over to let's call it ten o'clock, there 253 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: is a country known as Zambia. All right. From six 254 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: o'clock to about eight o'clock there is South Africa. Why 255 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: am I doing this? Slame clock thing, because it matters 256 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: so much for our story. South Africa. We will begin there. 257 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: South Africa and Rhodesia are as tight as tight can get. 258 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: There are so many South Africans in Rhodesia. They love 259 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: each other, they work together, they have similar forms of 260 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: They are best, best, best freaking friends. As far as 261 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: countries go. South Africa is a friend. When these sanctions 262 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: get slapped on Rhodesia, South Africa steps up and says, hey, 263 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: we got you, sell us your stuff. We'll continue to 264 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: trade with each other. South Africa also has and this 265 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: will definitely matter for our story throughout our story. They 266 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: have that wonderful, wonderful liquid gold known as oil. They 267 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: keep Rhodesia's well supplied with oil. They have a friend. Now, 268 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: let's go to Mozambique. Remember the twelve o'clock, six o'clock, big, 269 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: big border with Rhodesia. They're also friendly because Mozambique at 270 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: this point, and this will change. Spoiler alert, this is 271 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: going to change. Mozambique is run by the Portuguese, all right, 272 00:19:54,920 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 1: the Portuguese Rhodesia. They get along. They are still working 273 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: with each other, trading. Zambia the country in the Northwest. 274 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: Forget about them. We are going to get to them. 275 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: They're going to be featured here shortly. But Rhodesia has friends. 276 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: What's the result of this. They declare independence. All these 277 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: sanctions they're supposed to be bankrupted, Rhodesia's flourishing, flourishing. They 278 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: went independent and they're getting along really, really well. Now 279 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: we have to go globally again because this will matter 280 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: for the rest of our story. Communists, it's a religion 281 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: of destruction and domination. As we've talked about so many 282 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: times before, communism was never supposed to be about any 283 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: one country. Communism was always designed, always pushed as being 284 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: a global thing. At this point in history, the Soviet 285 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: Union is churnin and burning, China churning and burning. These 286 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: are communist countries and they are very very interested in 287 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: spreading their communism globally. And they are then, just as 288 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: they are now, very very interested in the continent of Africa. 289 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: Africa is gigantic, it is strategically located. They have all 290 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: kinds of resources that every country wants. The communist nations 291 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,719 Speaker 1: on the planet want Africa, and they want all of it. 292 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: And they recognize there's an opportunity. Here. We have this 293 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: country called Rhodesia. Britain has cut them off, and there's 294 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: a crack, isn't there. We're ready to discuss that crack. 295 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 1: There are all kinds of little villages and African reservations, 296 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:02,959 Speaker 1: essentially in Rhodesia, Black Africans who have not had a 297 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: standard of living equal to the white Europeans. There's enough 298 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: of a crack there that can be exploited. And now 299 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: terrorism starts. Terrorism mainly from Zambia. Zambia. Remember it's that 300 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: twelve o'clock to ten o'clock the northwestern border, that's Zambia. 301 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: The Soviets and the Chinese both form groups African communist, 302 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: African nationalists, whatever word you want to put on it, 303 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: African groups, and they decide they're going to have a 304 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: go at conquering Rhodesia. And they weren't even that subtle 305 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: about it. The Soviets freaking gave them tanks. They would 306 00:22:54,440 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 1: send advisors, Chinese advisors, Soviet advisors. How involved are the 307 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: Soviets and Chinese and this will matter for the rest 308 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 1: of our story. They would take African leaders and they 309 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: would ship them to places like the Soviet Union, like China, 310 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: like East Germany, and they would ship them there for training. 311 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: And I mean in depth training, not just weapons training, 312 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: not just battle tactics. I'm talking about insurgency tactics, communist tactics. 313 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: How do you infect a place? How do you infiltrate 314 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: a place? How do you destroy a place? Training camps 315 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: for the Africans put on by the Soviets and the Chinese, 316 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: and the poor Rhodesians don't even understand what is about 317 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: to come their way, but they do. The night a 318 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 1: white farmer, it's nineteen sixty six, a white farmer and 319 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: his wife, they are ambushed and slaughtered on their farm. 320 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: I need to set up something here. I already mentioned. 321 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: Rhodesia is a huge country. I mentioned that last night. 322 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: Not so much night, it's this is a very very 323 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: big place. It's not a small country. And they of 324 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: course have these cities, these urban areas. But as I've said, farming, agriculture, 325 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: it's such a wonderful land for that. It's just made 326 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 1: for that. It was a huge part of their economy, 327 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: huge part of what they did. And there were these 328 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,959 Speaker 1: huge farms that the Europeans ran and owned, and they 329 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: had of course Africans working on their Black Africans working 330 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 1: with them, and things like that. But these farms, as 331 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: you can imagine, you can't put a farm in the 332 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: middle of the city. They are rural, rural farms. They're 333 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: out there, they're in the hinter lands. They're not right 334 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: next to the cop shop. This creates a security nightmare 335 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 1: for Rhodesian farmers. There will come a day we're not 336 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: there yet in our story where farmers will have twelve 337 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: foot high security fences all around their homes because they 338 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: were worried their kids couldn't go to the in the 339 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: yard without a bunch of guerrillas chopping them up with machetes. 340 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: That's how dangerous this situation is. But they don't know 341 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: this yet, right because the terror hasn't started. Well, the 342 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: terror just began nineteen sixty six, white farmer and his 343 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: wife butchered, butchered, and the Communists in Africa, in the 344 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: Soviet Union in China, they want the terror to increase, 345 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: and they found I was about to say an unlikely ally, 346 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: but anyone even vaguely familiar with our political situation in 347 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: the United States of America will understand it's the most 348 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: likely ally in the world, wouldn't you know it, Young 349 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: college girls started to help the international communists smuggle in 350 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: weapons they could use to commit acts of terror. As 351 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: I have said many times, there is no more vicious, 352 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: violent communist on the planet than the liberal white woman. 353 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: It's just a fact. So we will continue with all 354 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: this in a moment. Is the Jesse Kelly Show on 355 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: a fantastic Thursday getting ready to move into Ask doctor 356 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: Jesse Friday. Get your questions emailed into Jesse at Jesse 357 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: kellyshow dot com. Back to our story of the Rhodesian 358 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: bush War, terrorist attacks have begun. Russia has their own 359 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 1: group of African nationalists communists. China has their group of 360 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: African Nationalists communists. They are receiving training. Now again, it's 361 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: not that I'm apologizing, but I'm just gonna drop more 362 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: details on you because the details are actually necessary. Most 363 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,239 Speaker 1: of the time, details kill a story. But you have 364 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: to understand this, two different groups of African nationalists communists. Okay, 365 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: there is ZAPU. I going to go into what it 366 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: stands for. That's a detail, doesn't matter. Zapu backed by 367 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: the Soviets. Then there's Zanu backed by the Chinese don't 368 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: worry about making sure you know who's back by who. 369 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: Zapu backed by the Soviets, Zanu backed by the Chinese. 370 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 1: These organizations, as I said, are being trained by the 371 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 1: Soviets in the Chinese in infiltration tactics. Rhodesia is not 372 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: fully aware of it yet, but war has already been 373 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: declared on them by the Soviets in the Chinese, who 374 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: want to make Rhodesia a communist country, and they start 375 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: by sending rebels over the border. In fact, let me 376 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: give you a summary of how this war is going 377 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: to go. Not to spoil the ending, but you probably 378 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: get it by now. Let me give you a summary 379 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: of how this war is going to go. There aren't 380 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: that many white Europeans in Rhodesia, right, two hundred thousand, 381 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: give or take two hundred thousand of them. That big 382 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: of a military twenty thousand again, give or take. It's 383 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 1: gonna depend on the time period twenty thousand. In the military, 384 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 1: the Communists are going to start setting up shop in 385 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: the countries around Rhodesia, and they're going to start making 386 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: incursions into the country. The military is going to fly 387 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: out and kill this incursion and kill that incursion, they 388 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: find ten guys here and twenty guys there, and they 389 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: find this, and they find that. But over time, as 390 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: the world retreats on poor Rhodesia, the incursions increase in volume, 391 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: increase in frequency. You understand, this is the very beginning 392 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: of it. We're in like nineteen sixty six here. What's 393 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: happening now is the Rhodesian military, which is elite, absolutely elite. 394 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: Are There are a few different elements to the military. 395 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: I want to mention right now. They have an air force. 396 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: Remember when I said South Africa and Rhodesia are super tight. 397 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: About half of the Rhodesian air Force is actually South African, 398 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: South African pilots, South African planes. That's how tight they are. 399 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: That will matter later on. So there's an air force. 400 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: They have the Rhodesian Light Infantry. Again, I want to 401 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: stress over half of the Rhodesian Light Infantry were Black Africans. 402 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: This is not a white versus black war. The Rhodesian 403 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: Light Infantry amazing troops, amazing troops again, outdoor people, rugged people, 404 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: mandatory military service. They were amazing troops. And then there 405 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: were actually two different kind of special operations forces, Special 406 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: Green Berets, Navy seals. Okay, there were the Rhodesian sas 407 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: I already mentioned them earlier, bad dudes. And then there 408 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: is another group super super cool called the Cellus Scouts 409 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: or Seleuse Scouts. I've heard it pronounced a thousand different 410 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: ways as I was doing my research for the show. 411 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: These are all excellent units, top tiering units. They are 412 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: having no problem hunting down and wiping out these rebels 413 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: right now because there simply aren't enough of them. You 414 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: should know, the first group of rebels who came across 415 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: the border was not a big group, got hunted down 416 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: and annihilated almost immediately. They get located, hunted down, annihilated. 417 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: The air force is used, helicopters are used to they 418 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: have to stay mobile because there aren't enough of them 419 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: to just be stationed all over the country. They have 420 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: to put them in various spots and then be ready 421 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: to hop on a plane, hop on a helicopter, and 422 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,959 Speaker 1: get where you're going. The use of parachutes and helicopters 423 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: is something that will last throughout this war. All right, 424 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: group comes in, gets wiped out. Group comes in, gets 425 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: wiped out. The Communists, though they're starting to get smarter 426 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: as they fail what they had initially tried to do. 427 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: Who was, as I mentioned, terrorist tactics. Hey, let's butcher 428 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: a farmer in the family, Let's throw a let's throw 429 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: a bomb in an ice cream shop. Let's just basic 430 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,959 Speaker 1: what you would kind of recognize today as more Jihati 431 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: terror tactics. But the Rhodesian military, the Rhodesian intelligence service 432 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: was so good. These tactics weren't working that great. They 433 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: wanted the Kammis needed more power, and so they started 434 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: to do something. They started to set up secret camps 435 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: inside of the country, inside Rhodesia. Remember it's a huge place, 436 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: so you don't just send in ten idiots from Zambia. 437 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: You try to set up camps inside. Now, we were 438 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: about to get to a point where it's going to 439 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: get very difficult on the Rhodesians. But they're definitely winning 440 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: right now. And a huge part of why they're winning 441 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: is these Kammi terrorists are coming from Zambia, virtually all 442 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: of them from Zambia, because Zambia is the one that's 443 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: not a friend. Well, the border between Zambia and Rhodesia 444 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: is a big river. Rivers help provide security because they're 445 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: hard to cross. They're hard to cross unknown, that's for sure. 446 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: The Rhodesians understand. If they simply keep this river monitored, 447 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,239 Speaker 1: keep your patrols up there, you should be able to 448 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: locate and snuff out all the Kami terrorists, either as 449 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: they're coming or shortly after they come. You hunt them down, 450 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: you snuff them out. And I mentioned earlier the sell 451 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: Us Scouts Selus Scouts. I'm just going to call the 452 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: cell Us Scouts. I went to community college. They did 453 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: so much cool stuff. One of the things they were 454 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: so good at the SAS two but was tracking. It's 455 00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: wild when you read the books, how these guys track. 456 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: They'd be out there in the bush and they'd come 457 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: across sign that terrorist groups had come, and they would 458 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: just start hunting them like they were animals for a day, 459 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: two days, three days, following the tracks like like like bloodhounds, 460 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: and then they'd finally find them. You make a phone call, 461 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: you bring in the troops. You kill them all. You 462 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: find them, make a phone call, bring in the troops, 463 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: kill them all. And I know we're about to be 464 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: done with our story. I'm gonna get back to politics. 465 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: Sometimes wounded terrorists trying to get back to Zambia would 466 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: be eaten by crocodiles in the rivers. One guy I 467 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: read a story about he was wounded, got hunted down 468 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: by a lion wild. What's happening? But tomorrow something will 469 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: happen that will spell eventually disaster for the Rhodesians. That's 470 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: gonna have to wait till tomorrow, or wait Monday, Chris, Monday, 471 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: not Tuesday. No, we're not making them wait till tuesday. 472 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: That's not right. No, No tomorrow or Monday. We'll do 473 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 1: it Monday, all right. Our story continues on Monday. Back 474 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: to politics next