1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Back to Marshamo on wor. 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 2: Well, we'll get to Johnny Carson later this hour. Hey 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 2: speaking which Stephen Colbert, believe it or not, I can 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 2: talk to believe it. You went from Johnny Carson to 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 2: Stephen Colbert, this angry, bitter little guy with this twisted up. 6 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 2: It's called the Late Show, should be called the Hate Show. 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: It's just this hate filled rant every night. They fired him. 8 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: He's gone. He's just working out the contract which has 9 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: got This is March April May, so it's about two 10 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: more months. But CBS is already erasing Stephen Colbert from 11 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 2: everything they can. If you go into the Big Broadcast 12 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 2: Center fifty seventh and eleventh, when you walk in there, 13 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: there's pictures of all the shows. As you come down 14 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: the hallway, the pictures of Colbert and the Late Show 15 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: have disappeared. They've been taken off the walls. One insider 16 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: saying it's like it's like existed at all. Every CBS 17 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: facility everywhere has taken down all the pictures of Colbert, 18 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 2: all the references to Colbert. The network now confirms that 19 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: when he goes off the air, there will be no sendoff, 20 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: no goodbye party, no anything. They've had it with this guy. 21 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: They want nothing to do with him. He's ruined late 22 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 2: night television, something completely destroyed it. He was really first 23 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: to go total hatred, and then Kimmel followed. Fallon sort 24 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: of followed. But Fallon's the one guy who could go 25 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 2: back to a regular entertainment show at night if he 26 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: wanted to. Kimmel is too far gone. He just became 27 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: this angry, bitter guy. Colbert was always a just a 28 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: hate filled, angry guy. So they can't wait to get 29 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: this thing off the air. The Late Show, The Stephen 30 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: Colbert Late Show. Now, remember it's in its final month 31 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: or two. You know, remember when Johnny Carson announced he 32 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: was retiring in May of ninety two. Why the last 33 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: few months, their ratings were through the roof. Everybody wanted 34 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: to watch his final shows, and all the biggest stars 35 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: in the world wanted to come on. It was quite 36 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 2: a ratings boost those final months. It's just the opposite 37 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: of the Colbert. He's going off pretty soon and his 38 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: final months are ratings disaster. In fact, the last month 39 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: was the worst ever, worst January ever. He had two 40 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty five thousand viewers in the demo two 41 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty five thousand in their demo. Now normally, 42 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 2: you know, in the Carson days, it was eight million, 43 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: nine million. Network says the final show can't come soon enough. 44 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: Now when they take him off the air, they're not 45 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: going to put on another talk show. It could be 46 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: a game show, or it could be reruns. You know, 47 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: when the Kimmel got pulled off the air for a week, 48 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 2: they just ran reruns of Password and it got triple 49 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: the ratings of Kimmel, So don't think CBS didn't notice it. 50 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: And to run the reruns of Password, it's free, it 51 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: doesn't cost anything. So expect Colbert to be replaced with 52 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: reruns a game show or CBS drama or something like that, 53 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 2: and it'll get double triple the ratings at Colbert and 54 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: cost nothing. What do they do with that big theater, Well, 55 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 2: they spent a lot of money on that theater through 56 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 2: the years, the Ed Sullivan Theater, and it's a really 57 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: good TV studio. So I would imagine CBS keeps it, 58 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: uses it to do game shows and that sort of 59 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: stuff out of there. Also, you can make a lot 60 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: of money renting out the theater as a TV studio. 61 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: In fact, before Letterman took it over. In between The 62 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: Ed Sullivan Show and Letterman taking it over, that's what 63 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: it was. You could rent that theater and millions of 64 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: shows were done out of there if you needed to 65 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: rent a studio. Hey, you know the show Access Hollywood 66 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: gone canceled. Even the top producers were totally unaware it 67 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: was going to get canceled. NBC Universal made the decision Friday. 68 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: Access Hollywood got a call after nearly thirty years, canceled. 69 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: That's it, no more Access Hollywood. Why. Ratings were good, 70 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: in fact, they were higher than Extra but TV viewership, 71 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: Network TV viewership is way way way down. A lot 72 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: less people watch network TV or local stations TV. That's 73 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: who runs all these Access Hollywood. All these local stations 74 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: run Access Hollywood and just doesn't pay to do them anymore. 75 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 2: Viewership is way way way down. So Access Hollywood is canceled. Hey, 76 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: we're talking about potholes before they're still there. This was 77 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 2: the worst season ever for potholes because of the Remember 78 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 2: the temperature would go from minus fifteen to seventy five 79 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: the next day. It's that quick temperature shifts that caused 80 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 2: the potholes. And also the salt and stuff they throw 81 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 2: all over the road. So it's worse than ever. And 82 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 2: apparently they don't have enough people to fix it. The 83 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 2: mayor and others said there'd be two weeks, will fix 84 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: all the potholes. It's not getting done. The union that's 85 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 2: in charge of all that says they don't have enough people. 86 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: They could use at least two hundred more highway workers 87 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 2: to get the job done, says the biggest crop of 88 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: potholes they've seen after this brutal winter. But the Momdannie 89 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: promised for two weeks, they say, he is not gonna happen. 90 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 2: Just not possible. Hey, so the Epstein files, there are 91 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 2: a lot of people. 92 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 3: You know. 93 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 2: Sometimes you see these business people are Bill Gates or 94 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: Bill Clinton. You're not shocked. Yeah, that's who your picture 95 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: hanging out with Epstein. But deep pak Chopra his followers stunned, 96 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: stunned that he's in there. 97 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 3: Now. 98 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 2: There's some guys that end up in this Epstein file, 99 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 2: like Dick Cavett. You wouldn't expect him to be in there. 100 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: Woody Allen, but it's pretty innocent with these two. Woody Allen, 101 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 2: it was remember after the scandal. Woody Allen could not 102 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: get any financing to make movies. All the big studios 103 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 2: stopped financing his movies, so he couldn't get movies made 104 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: with the big studios or any of the Hollywood stuff. 105 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 2: So he had to go out and raise his own money. 106 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,799 Speaker 2: And the way you're his money, he is you find 107 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: wealthy guys, starstruck, wealthy guys who want to pretend to 108 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 2: be a movie producer or hang around show business, and 109 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 2: they'll finance your movies. And there's a lot of them, 110 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 2: a lot of them, not just what he elan. A 111 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 2: lot of Scorsese's done that with a few films. You 112 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 2: just go find some rich guys to give you the money. 113 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 2: You don't have to deal with the Hollywood studio. And 114 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: these rich guys are just as starstruck as anybody. So 115 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 2: that's what Woody Allen was doing, getting Epstein to finance movies. 116 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 2: In exchange, Woody Allen had to come to his house 117 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: for a lot of dinners, a lot of luncheons, and 118 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: Epstein would invite all of his friends and you could 119 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: sit there and have lunch with Woody Allen, dinner with 120 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 2: Woody Allen. It's annoying, but he was willing to do 121 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: it to get the financing. Woody Allen's close friend Dick 122 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: Cabott got dragged into this. Why was Cavot doing it? Well, 123 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 2: if you read the files, it looks like Cabot wanted 124 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 2: a rich guy to finance a PBS special he was 125 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 2: trying to put together. Epstein did do that, So that's 126 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 2: what up. Now, that's innocent d Pak Chopra, the guru 127 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: who everybody idolized. This guru, this is different. You can 128 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 2: read all the emails. You can go to the Epstein files. 129 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: His behavior was pretty slimy there. He was all over Epstein. 130 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: Here's one devoted follower of his on Facebook says, I 131 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: just looked at the Chopra emails with Epstein and I 132 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: am about to drown in my own vomit. He wants 133 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: to go away with Epstein on trips, and in the 134 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 2: invitation he says bring your girls. On at least two occasions, 135 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 2: Chopra invited Epstein to join him on trips to Israel 136 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 2: in Switzerland, specifically telling him to bring your girls. In 137 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: the Israel invitation, Chopra also suggested Epstein use a fake 138 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: name if he wished Chopra. Another one wrote God is 139 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 2: a construct. Cute girls are real. Yeah, a lot of 140 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: stuff with women and Deepak Chopra. And then apparently Chopra 141 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: was quite the ladies man. In one email, Epstein's texting him, 142 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: I liked watching you zero in on your prey made 143 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: me smile. The word predator is used. And then there's 144 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 2: another one from Chopra requests for cute girls. He asked 145 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: if he had found him acute Israeli while he's over there. 146 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 2: Epstein offered to send two girls to a meditation events 147 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 2: Chopra was hosting, which Chopra accepted, requesting their names for 148 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: the guest list. Now what does Chopra say about all this? Well, 149 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 2: he issued a statement on x denying any criminal or 150 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 2: exploiti of contact. He acknowledged that some past email exchanges 151 00:08:55,880 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 2: reflected poor judgment in tone, expressed regret for how they 152 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 2: might be interpreted. The reports specified that it's unclear how 153 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 2: old the girls were in the message as well how 154 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 2: it might be interpreted. I don't know if when you're 155 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 2: writing Epstein and you say bring your girls, how's it 156 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 2: going to get interpreted? Hey, there was a noted publicist 157 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 2: Peggy Siegel. I think she's kind of retired now. Peggy's 158 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: Siegel for throughout the eighties and nineties was the big 159 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: publicist for the movie studios through the big, big, big, 160 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: big movie premiere parties here in New York. Was the 161 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 2: nastiest person ever, nasty personality. Everybody behind her back, always bad, mouter, 162 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 2: like crazy. But she was quite the publicist. If it 163 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 2: was a big event with big, big names, major business names, 164 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: society names, that's who you hired to put together the party. Well, 165 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 2: nobody was more involved with Epstein than Peggy Siegel. Nobody. 166 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: It was site of a five thousand email turned up 167 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 2: just in one year, Oh no, ten years, five thousand 168 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: emails in ten years. And why would she do this 169 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 2: for Epstein? Well money, he had what's known as check's appeal. 170 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 2: He would write massive checks. For instance, on her birthday party, 171 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 2: he sent her one hundred thousand dollars as a gift, 172 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. And every time he wanted her 173 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 2: to put together a party, put together a dinner party 174 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: for my birthday, invite all the biggest names in New York. 175 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 2: He sent thirty thousand dollars for the party they wanted. 176 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: Elton John, so fifteen thousand was donated to Elton John's charity. 177 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 2: A lot of money was spent. Now she lost I 178 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 2: think a lot of the movie studios once it all 179 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 2: came out about Epstein. And she's really the one that 180 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 2: got him a lot of big names in New York. 181 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 2: But she's getting a lot of flak for this now. 182 00:10:55,559 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 2: She's the one that when he got Prince Andrew at 183 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 2: his house. She's the one that threw the dinner party 184 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: for Prince Andrew and she got George Stefanopolis to come, 185 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 2: and Katie Kuric to come and Stephanoppolis later got a 186 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 2: lot of flak for having dinner at Epstein's house, and 187 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 2: he put out some stupid statement about, well, maybe I 188 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 2: should have done my due diligence. Well, he's supposed to 189 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 2: be some sort of a news guy, and it was 190 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: in every news outlet in the world that he was 191 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 2: convicted of being a pedophile in prison, So it wasn't 192 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 2: that hard to do the due diligence. But anyway, we'll 193 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: do that. Throughout the week, we'll bring you more of 194 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 2: these shocking names that are in the Epstein files. Hey, Cuba, Cuba, 195 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 2: the communist government of Cuba could fall at any moment. 196 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 2: There were riots in the street this weekend. Rioters attacking 197 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 2: a Communist party building, entering it, throwing everything out the windows. 198 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 2: This is building. It's possible that Iran is liberated. It's 199 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 2: possible bull Iran gets a new government, is no longer 200 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 2: a brutal terrorist dictatorship. And it's possible in the months 201 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 2: ahead Cuba gets rid of communism, goes capitalist. Trump would absolutely, 202 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 2: without question, deserve a Nobel Prize for all of this 203 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: because he's been working on this behind the scenes. And 204 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 2: you know, Cuba is a beautiful Caribbean island. It's in 205 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: total poverty and decay for decades under communism. If you 206 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 2: liberated it, it would look like Miami. In fact, before 207 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 2: the communists took over, it looked like Miami. It had 208 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: all the same hotels. Same guy that built the Fountain 209 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 2: Blue had a hotel in Cuba. The same guy that 210 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 2: built the Eden Rock had a hotel in Cuba that 211 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: was magnificent. Hotels, the most beautiful beaches, gambling casinos, nightclubs. 212 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 2: It could go back to that. It could make a fortune. 213 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 2: So look for that to happen. You know, if they 214 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 2: need somebody to take over and run Iran. Who would 215 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: do it well? The Sun of the Shaw. He's been 216 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: in this country for forty seven years, Reza pan La Pavlav, 217 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: and he's been pushing for decades to be the guy 218 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 2: to go back and take over. And he's been leading, 219 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 2: you know, all kinds of events and discussions and about 220 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 2: going back and taking over. I don't know if the 221 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: White House has any real confidence in him. Nothing wrong 222 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: with him, He's just he hasn't been there in forty 223 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: seven years, and it's hard to imagine you could go 224 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 2: back forty seven years later and know what the hell's 225 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: going on or know anybody there. But he could play 226 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 2: some sort of role in this, he probably would not 227 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 2: be the new leader. And there's a tremendous amount of 228 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: Persians here in the United States and the Persian community. 229 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 2: You see them all over in New Jersey, Long Island, 230 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 2: Sands Point, Great Neck, very very very successful business people, 231 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: very very smart people. So it's a huge diaspora of 232 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 2: the Persian community. Huge and they've been talking, meeting, gathering 233 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 2: over the last few weeks figuring out what they can do. 234 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 2: And these are smart, wealthy guys. They can do plenty 235 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 2: to help support a new government in Iran, so it 236 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 2: could happen soon. You know, we've been trying to take 237 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 2: out the Islamic Revolutionary Guard, the Revolutionary Guard, the Republican Guard, 238 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 2: and they're the vicious ones. They're the really ugly, vicious, 239 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 2: brutal terrorist ones have been shooting protesters and all that. 240 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 2: But there's the regular Army. We're trying very hard not 241 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 2: to hit them. The Islamic Republican Iran Army. We've been 242 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 2: leaving them alone because they'll be needed if Iran gets free, 243 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 2: they'll be there. They'll be the new army. We'll get 244 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: rid of the Republican Guard, the regular army will take over. 245 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 2: This could get pretty interesting in the next few months. 246 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 2: We'll get to Johnny Carson coming up in a few minutes. 247 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: Interesting stuff that you never knew about them. We'll take 248 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 2: some calls next eight hundred three to two to one 249 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 2: zero seven ten is the number. Eight hundred three to 250 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: two to one zero. 251 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: Always this step ahead of the news. Here's more marks 252 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: imone on seven to ten. Woor Hey, let's. 253 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 2: Take some calls. Let's go to Bonnie and Toms River. Bonnie, 254 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 2: how you doing, hi? 255 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 4: Mark I was just wondering this guy they put in 256 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 4: charge of Iran the Sun. Yes, he's pretty banged up. 257 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 4: I mean he's performed and he's in a coma. Is 258 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 4: it sort of like the Weekend with Bernie thing where 259 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 4: they prop them up and he waves Yeah. 260 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's kind of the Joe Biden of Iraq. Now yeah, 261 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 2: they actually think he well, some think he's dead. There's 262 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 2: no confirmation that he's actually alive. It's been reported he 263 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 2: lost a leg in the bombing, facial lacerations, he was 264 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 2: in a coma. 265 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 4: And some of them I heard last night, they think 266 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 4: he's gay. 267 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gay, which is pretty funny because in Iran 268 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: that's illegal and they'll hang you if you're gay. So 269 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 2: so it was always said that the Iotola himself never 270 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: wanted his son to take over, and they said the 271 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: reason was they didn't want to get into this family 272 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 2: dynasty because that's what they had with the Shaw. But 273 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 2: could also be that he knew his son was gay 274 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 2: and that doesn't fit with what the Iranian government believes. 275 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 2: Let's go to Phil in Northport. Phil, how you doing? 276 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 3: Yes? 277 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 5: Hello, Hello, Mark, And just kudos to whose cadets put 278 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 5: it into that miserable human being that killed the lieutenant 279 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 5: colonel in Arlington, Arlington, Virginia. And why didn't the governor 280 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 5: of Arlington, Virginia make one word about this? 281 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 2: You mean the governor of Virginia be all right, well, anyway, 282 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: she's a left wing cook. She's not going to say 283 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: a word about it. But you've had the worst coverage 284 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 2: of everything we're talking about this last hour with Michael Goodwin, 285 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 2: just absolutely. For instance, the Michigan shooter, the guy who 286 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: tried to run over the I mean this awful terrorist, 287 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 2: and the New York Times and others put out this 288 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 2: narrative that he was so driven, so crazy because his 289 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 2: brother had been killed and an Israeli airstrike, his brother 290 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 2: in Lebanon was killed and in his early airstrike it 291 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 2: was very you know, to get sympathy from this is 292 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 2: what the New York Times and others wrote. Well, it 293 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 2: turns out it was true. The reason he was killed 294 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 2: he was a Hesbala terrorist. They forgot to mention that 295 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 2: in the article. They deliberately didn't mention it in the article. 296 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 2: You've had this kind of stuff going on. That's why 297 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 2: the FCC chair is warning these media outlets They also 298 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 2: reported the story about we lost six ships, six ships 299 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 2: were sunk in or rent. None of this was true, 300 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 2: completely false, but major news outlets all ran this story. 301 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 2: That's why they're talking about FCC crackdown. Let's go to 302 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 2: Vincent and Brooklyn. Vincent, how you doing? 303 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 3: Good morning, Mark, I'm okay, Good morning, Mara. Mark Abba 304 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 3: girl spamburger to governor Virginia pulled the bait and switch. 305 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 3: She ran as a moderate, and now she wants to 306 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 3: tax anything walking, even cockerroaches and water bugs. Mark, I'm 307 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 3: sure you heard about Mandami's latest boneheaded plan. He wants 308 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 3: the state to low the inheritance tax threshold from seven 309 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 3: million dollars to seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars, and 310 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 3: he wants an inheritance tax rate of fifty percent. 311 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 2: Now, if you have inheritance, the first seven million is 312 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 2: not taxed, he wants to make that the first seven 313 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 2: hundred thousand, which, now, explain this to me, though, federal 314 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 2: inheritance tax about fifty percent, isn't it? 315 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 3: No? Actually, and you got to make you got to 316 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 3: really be inherit a lot of a lot, a lot 317 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,479 Speaker 3: of buddy, No, it's not not that. What there is 318 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 3: tax on like if somebody in New York and that's upfront. 319 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 3: If let's say your mom leaves a bank account in 320 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 3: trust for you, if it's over thirty thousand dollars, they 321 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 3: put and this was years ago, I don't even know 322 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 3: what it is now, they put a lock on that 323 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 3: accountant to you paid a tax up front, and you 324 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 3: get a clearance, a statement of clearance from the state 325 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 3: tax Department, and you present it to the bank and 326 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 3: they'll free up your money. I heard an economist over 327 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 3: this week and talking about real estate in New York. 328 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 3: And this person knows about economics but does not know 329 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 3: about real estate. He was saying that you could buy 330 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 3: the average house in New York City, you could buy 331 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 3: one for seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars. No way, 332 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 3: you can't even even in Brooklyn. The average co op 333 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 3: let alone of Manhattan goes for at least a million dollars. 334 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 3: I was offered the beginning of last week for one 335 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 3: of my properties. I was offered a great up deal. 336 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 3: We would have went to the lawyer's office and closed 337 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 3: five million dollars for one of mine. Dollars. 338 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 2: Very good. Now, listen the argument against the inheritance tax 339 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 2: is this is money that people have earned, and they've 340 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: already rational wealth. They've already paid tax on it when 341 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 2: they earned it. They paid the taxt and so you're 342 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: taxing the money that's already been taxed, which is and. 343 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 3: They paid tax on it when they invested in the dividends, 344 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 3: the interest, They paid tax on it when they put 345 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 3: it in the bank and everything. And so it's robbery 346 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 3: and that's this is how you create generational wealth. And 347 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 3: Mondami and these communists they don't want that. They want 348 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 3: everybody to be in the poorhouse. Now they're the only 349 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 3: ones conducted to eat steak and lobster. And they complain 350 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 3: about our military men and women who were fighting for 351 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 3: us having the stakehold lobster. Didn't want it, they added 352 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 3: their mind. 353 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: Yes, as a matter of fact, Vincent, great call, thanks 354 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 2: for calling. That's another example of fake news. They printed 355 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 2: the story if Hegsath had ordered millions of dollars of 356 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 2: staking lobster for himself, it was for the troops. They 357 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 2: also failed to mention this has done a lot. When 358 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 2: troops are about to go into combat, you spend a 359 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 2: lot of money and give them one incredible meal before 360 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 2: they go off to off to war. Hey when we 361 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 2: come back. The Johnny Carson Expert of the World he 362 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 2: wrote it just came out, the greatest book about Johnny Carson. 363 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 2: But there's a dark side to Carson you may not 364 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 2: have known about. We'll get to that next on seven 365 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 2: to ten. Wor give WR a bre said on the 366 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app to hear Mark Simone and all the WR 367 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 2: hosts in an instance. 368 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: Now back to the Mark Simon Show on WOOR. 369 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 2: Well, you know there's been a lot of books about 370 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 2: Johnny Carson, but nothing like this. The definitive Ultimate Johnny 371 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 2: Carson book came out last year. I urge you to 372 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: get it. It's the greatest book ever on Carson. It's 373 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 2: uncovered everything you could ever know about him. It's called 374 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 2: Love Johnny Carson. It's by Mark mall cough. He also 375 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 2: does the Carson Podcast. There's about four hundred episodes you 376 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 2: can listen to with anybody and everybody that was ever 377 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 2: involved with the Tonight Show. But get the book Love 378 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 2: Johnny Carson by Mark Malcoff. You won't be able to 379 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 2: put it down. And he's with us now, Mark Malkoff, 380 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 2: how you doing. 381 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 6: Mark I'm doing great. Nice to talk to you again. 382 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 2: Hey. The Oscars last night made me think of Carson. 383 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 2: He has been how many years was the Oscar host? 384 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 2: Many years? 385 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 6: It was four or five years. He was the only 386 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 6: Oscar host in the history. No teleprompter, no Q cards. 387 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 6: He memorized everything. The opening monologue, he would edit the 388 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 6: jokes in his head depending on how he did with 389 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 6: the crowd with each joke. I mean that guy was 390 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 6: on a different level as a host, probably the greatest 391 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 6: Oscar host of all time. 392 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, he did that with the Tonight Show. You know, 393 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 2: got like Jay Leno had to work on the monologue 394 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 2: to get the jokes in just the right order. But Carson, 395 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 2: You're right, on the Tonight Show would just jumble up jokes, 396 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 2: move them around, switch whatever he had to do. And 397 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: I think the only was to ever to do that right. 398 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 2: Everyone else had the cue cards. 399 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it was at Johnny was effortless. I 400 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 6: mean he had a phote, he took a photograph, a 401 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 6: memory class, and he could learn. He learned Russian, he 402 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 6: learned Swahili, he took Spanish classes and between shows in 403 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 6: Las Vegas. I mean, the guy was unbelievable. In terms 404 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 6: of his intellect. 405 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, now you should get the book Love Johnny Carson, 406 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 2: and the book is wonderful. You're gonna love Johnny Carson 407 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 2: even more when you read it. But we've had you 408 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 2: on a numbers. We never talked about the bad stuff. 409 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 2: I thought we'd just well during the New York years, 410 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,479 Speaker 2: he was a big drinker and apparently a lot of 411 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 2: affairs cheating, not just him but the wife too. 412 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 6: Correct, that's true. I mean Johnny would talk on the 413 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 6: Tonight Show about how he struggled with drinking. It was 414 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 6: one of those things in New York where he was 415 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 6: so famous. He would go into a restaurant or a 416 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 6: bar and people would constantly be sending over drinks, and 417 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 6: he tried to be polite, take a sip, and he 418 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 6: was a lightweight, so after a few drinks, as Carson acknowledged, 419 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 6: he would turn into a tilla the hunt and in 420 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 6: the spring of nineteen seventy one, Johnny was at Jilli's 421 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 6: on fifty second straight world famous Jilly's Sinatra territory. He 422 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 6: was with Ed McMahon and Ed's manager Robert Coe, and 423 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 6: Carson had way too much to drink and mobster Joey 424 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 6: Gallo had just gotten out of prison after serving a decade, 425 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 6: who was locked away, just got out. As at Jilli's, 426 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 6: Gallo is with his girlfriend, goes to the bathroom. Gallo 427 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 6: does and Johnny unfortunately didn't remember this because he was drunk, 428 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 6: but he did something highly inappropriate to Gallow's girlfriend. Jilly. 429 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 6: Rizzo told ed, get Carson the blank out of here, 430 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 6: which he did, and then Gallo came back and discovered 431 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 6: what Carson did, and he put a hit on Johnny's life. 432 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 6: And two things happened. One, Carson wisely got his good 433 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 6: friend Frank Sinatra to intervene. Sinatra knew Gallo, he knew 434 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 6: some of the mafia figures. So Sinatra sat down with 435 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 6: Gallow they need a favor, and he said, anything, I 436 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 6: need you to leave Johnny Carson alone. And Gallo got 437 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 6: really upset, but he said, you tell Carson the only 438 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 6: reason he lives and breathes is because he knows Frank Sinatra. 439 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 6: And then the second thing is NBC. Carson was twenty 440 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 6: five percent of NBC's profits at one point, and to 441 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 6: appease the acting mafia don in New York City, Joe 442 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 6: Colombo NBC News they aired a positive story in nineteen 443 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 6: seventy one on Joe Colombo and his Italian American Civil 444 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 6: Rights League for no reason. I mean I watched it 445 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 6: with my own eye. 446 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 2: And you don't mean they ran a piece during the news. 447 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 2: I mean they created a primetime special for this. 448 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 6: Right they did it was it was prime time because 449 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 6: they would have higher ratings. They were really worried about 450 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 6: this and it aired in primetime and I look at 451 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 6: that and I was like, it was just why would 452 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 6: they do this? And they just you know, Carson was 453 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 6: their cash cow. I mean he was the most important 454 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 6: person to the network and then Bob Hope. So they 455 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 6: did that and that was how Johnny was able to 456 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 6: keep his life. I mean he would go to the 457 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 6: Copa cabana and Jerry Vale was opening up the Copa 458 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 6: and Carson again drinks and he was gone, and it 459 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 6: was it was he ruined Jerry Vale's entire premiere and 460 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 6: Carson Jerry Vales had Carson apologized for decades the show, right, Yeah, 461 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 6: you just did not want to be around Johnny. But 462 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 6: he would talk about it on the Tonight Show. We 463 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 6: talked about it with Mike Wallace. It was a struggle 464 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 6: of his. Really didn't get a hold of it until 465 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 6: nineteen eighty two after he got unfortunately arrested for drinking 466 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 6: and driving, and three months prior on the Tonight Show 467 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 6: he's warning people you do not want to drink and 468 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 6: drive during the holidays. And then three months later, of course, Johnny, 469 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 6: but it was a struggle of his and then obviously 470 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 6: the marriage is married. Four times he would talk about 471 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 6: the struggles, but yeah, unfortunately in nineteen this has also 472 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,479 Speaker 6: happened in nineteen seventy one, Johnny. This was wife number two, 473 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 6: Joe Anne, who was the one that really convinced Johnny 474 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 6: to take the Tonight Show because Johnny and everybody said, 475 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 6: don't you don't want to take over for Jack part, 476 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 6: No one's going to succeed. So she unfortunately had caught 477 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 6: Carson in some compromising situations with women. She wanted to 478 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 6: make Carson jealous, so she was going on the weekends 479 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 6: to race car, drive races, race car She loved race 480 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 6: car driving. She started having an affair with Peter Revson, 481 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 6: a race car driver, a playboy race car driver, who's 482 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 6: the heir to the Revlon throne. That's what the media said. 483 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 6: Carson found out he had a she had a secret apartment, 484 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 6: and he had a private investigator who you were actually 485 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 6: friends with. Carson was crying when he found out that 486 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 6: joe Anne was cheating on him and changed the locks 487 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 6: on their apartment and it was over. And it was 488 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 6: a really, really sad thing. But you know, Carson just 489 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 6: I mean temptation with the ladies. He couldn't turn it down. 490 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 6: He didn't turn them down very often. 491 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. So so he's cheating with other women and she's 492 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,959 Speaker 2: going away every weekend to go watch race races. But 493 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 2: is that smart that your husband's a cheater and you 494 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 2: leave them alone on the weekends. 495 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 6: That I don't know about that. It was one of 496 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 6: those things where Johnny, for whatever reason, and men of 497 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 6: his generation thought it was totally fine for the husband. 498 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 6: There was nothing they would say, it was nothing emotional 499 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 6: about it, just physical. But if their wives did it 500 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 6: for whatever reason, it was like the worst thing that 501 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 6: they could possibly do. But yeah, Joanne was probably not 502 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 6: smart about that. And then she of course moved to 503 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 6: California and moved with Truman Capodi, who also has neighbors 504 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 6: with Johnny and the un Plausa. Can you believe this? 505 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 6: Bobby Kennedy, Truman, Capodi, David Suskin, Angela Lansbury, Yule Brenner. 506 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 6: I mean, it was just a cavalcade of talent in 507 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 6: this one place. And then yeah, Truman Capodi in White 508 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 6: Number two moved to la and they lived there until 509 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 6: they passed away. 510 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well that un Plaza back in nineteen sixty four 511 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 2: sixty five, that was the premier apartment building of New York. 512 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 6: It really wise, I mean it was. It was That's 513 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 6: where Johnny met Sonny Werblin, who owned the New York Jets, 514 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 6: who became his business partner, and they opened the clothing 515 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 6: line and made Johnny a rich ben. 516 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 3: Wow. 517 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 2: Now, hey, get the book. Most of it is positive 518 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 2: and Johnny Carson, if you have exactly that's true, wonderful guy. 519 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 2: We're just focusing on the bad stuff here first, because 520 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 2: we got to it before, and there were people that 521 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 2: got themselves banned from this to Night show because Johnny 522 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 2: would have a problem with him. Right. 523 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 6: You know, I talked to four hundred people. When I'm 524 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 6: talking to people that were on the very first show, 525 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 6: like mel Brooks, to people that were, you know, one 526 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 6: of the last guest in nineteen ninety to so you 527 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 6: have thirty years of people. The one thing Carson did 528 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 6: the test it was rudeness, especially to his staff, and 529 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 6: he was, you know, from Nebraska, and he was very 530 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 6: much about having good manners. And Jerry Lewis was really 531 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 6: rude to Carson's staff, and Carson said, he is never 532 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 6: coming back. He would not tolerate rudeness. He would not 533 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 6: tolerate comedians coming on for that we're debuting that did 534 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 6: material that might offend his audience. So unfortunately, Ellen DeGeneres 535 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 6: on her third appearance, did an offensive joke that Carson 536 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 6: asked her not to do, and she did it, and 537 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 6: she was banned on the show from the show. So 538 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 6: there were a bunch of people, maybe like thirty people 539 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 6: that were not welcomed on the show anymore. I mean, 540 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 6: William Shatner was somebody that wouldn't let Johnny get a 541 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 6: word in, and Johnny and tested that and then Shatner 542 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 6: turned his back to Carson to talk to the previous guests, 543 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 6: Buddy Hackett and then Shatner. Back then, you weren't allowed 544 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 6: to believe it or not to you remember this, You 545 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 6: weren't allowed to say what network your show was on 546 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 6: unless it was NBC, they say, on another network. And 547 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 6: of course Shatner says, watched me Saturday nights on ABC TJ. Hooker. 548 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 6: So Johnny basically said, three strikes, you're out, and we 549 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 6: go into everyone that was banned and why they were banned. 550 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 6: Rich little to this, almost to this day would he 551 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 6: asked me, why do you know why I was banned? 552 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 6: And I was able with my reporting to figure that 553 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 6: out why these people we were gone from Carson's show, 554 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 6: and even his friend Carl Sagan, the famous astronomer, unfortunately 555 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 6: after ten or twelve appearances, was banned from the show. 556 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he remained friends with him. He'd still go 557 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 2: to dinner with him. 558 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,959 Speaker 6: He did. Unfortunately, he interrupted Carson twice during this segment 559 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 6: to correct him, and it was very abrupt, and Johnny 560 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 6: was embarrassed and thought it was poor manners. And he 561 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 6: never had him on. He did stay friends with him, 562 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 6: you know, he would have did with Carl Sagan. He 563 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 6: with Jim Fowler, the wildlife expert. He went to San 564 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 6: Diego to see the animals with joanah Embery at the 565 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 6: San Diegoo. Just a really, really interested man in how 566 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 6: things work. He really loved New York. I mean he 567 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 6: pitched to Mickey Mantle in nineteen sixty two on the 568 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 6: Tonight Show. He played with the Jets at the Polo Grounds. 569 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 6: He was diving out of planes. I mean, Mark, you 570 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 6: and I talk about Johnny in the New York years. 571 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 6: Unfortunately most of that footage is gone. But Johnny was 572 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 6: on a different level, jumping out of airplanes, racing an 573 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,479 Speaker 6: Indiana motor speedway with Hernelli Jones, going over one hundred 574 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 6: miles an hour. It's a really, really fun thirty years 575 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 6: to look at. 576 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,719 Speaker 2: Well, it's a great book. I urge everybody to get it, 577 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 2: the new book, and it's got all kinds of great 578 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 2: things about Johnny Carson and everything you never knew about him. 579 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 2: It's fascinating. It's called Love Johnny Carson by Mark Malkoff. Now, 580 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 2: for those are going to write to me, what was 581 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 2: the name of that place? Love Johnny Carson by Mark Malkoff. 582 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 2: Get the book. You're gonna love it. And listen to 583 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 2: the Carson Podcast. He's got four hundred episodes that are amazing. 584 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 2: But get the book, Love Johnny Carson, Mark Malkoff. It's 585 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 2: on Amazon. Mark Malcoff, We'll do it again soon. Thanks 586 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 2: for being with us. 587 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 6: I would love that yet. We have some new episodes 588 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 6: coming out and always good talking to you. Mark. Thank 589 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 6: you so much. 590 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 2: All right, take care. Hey, don't forget. Curtis is now 591 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 2: on the Morning show, Curtis and Larry, Curtis Lee, Larry Minty. 592 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 2: It's every morning six to ten, seven to ten wor here's. 593 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: More Mark Simone on seven ten wor. 594 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 2: Hey we're out of time. Lousy weather today, but spring 595 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 2: begins Friday. I'll see you tomorrow ten o'clock, seven to 596 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 2: ten wor