1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp the 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: House Whisper on demand on the iHeart Radio app. Every home, 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: every home has a path forward. Once you see it, 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: that is when everything changes. Trust me on this, and 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: I'm here to help you try and see it every 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 1: single week as well as simply take care of the 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: homes that we've got because they've got to work. They've 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: got to work roof leaks, gutter issues and the like, 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: drainage issues around the house. Because a lot of Southern 10 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: Californians are struggling with that right now. A lot of 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: people across the country are going to be struggling with 12 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: it as they do every year, every winter season that 13 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: rolls in. So that's where we're going on today. I 14 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: want to thank everybody who called in for the calls. 15 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: Great calls today, and I wanted to leave this one comment. 16 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: Our last caller had relatively new flashings installed about a 17 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: year ago, galvanized flashings in her home, and I didn't 18 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: want to be giving every roofer who was listening a 19 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: heart attack when I said that I prefer powder coated 20 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: bonderized flash over basic galvanized flashings. Galvanized flashings are tough. 21 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: They are tough. They are meant to last. However, anything 22 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: that breaks through that galvanic zinc coating gets right to 23 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: the very rustable steel below. And it has been my 24 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: experience that bonderized flashings, which by the way, don't have 25 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: to be silver, they can be any color you need 26 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: them to be for the kind of house that you've 27 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: got for the trim. But I've seen those powder coated 28 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: materials last much much longer than most galvanized flashings simply 29 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: be even though technically technically the surface is stronger, and 30 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: you could even make the argument that the zinc sacrificially 31 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: self seals, and that can be true as well, but 32 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: it lacks flexibility. At the end of the day, it 33 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: lacks flexibility, and so up there, exposed to heat and 34 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: cold and heat and cold, it can crack. And once 35 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: galvanized has cracked and exposes the metal below, that's when 36 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: things get vulnerable, and it can happen right off the bat. 37 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: Sometimes it never happens. I'm just saying. So it's a 38 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: perfectal preference of mine. I prefer bonderized on top of galvanized. 39 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: But that's the thing. Okay, it can be painted and 40 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: the rust can be stopped if it starts to happen. Okay, 41 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: it has to be treated carefully, so it's not the 42 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: end of the world. It's not like, oh, no, all 43 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: of our flashes are going to rust out. No, it 44 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: can be dealt with in its areas. But yeah, that's 45 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: the thing. Okay, let us return now to the conversation 46 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: about our homes after the rain. We've already talked about 47 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: how you track down a leak. I've talked about tips 48 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: and tricks for what I want to do in right now, 49 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: we've talked about how you know your roof needs replacing 50 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: or if your roof needs replacing. Let's get down on 51 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: the ground for a second before we go back to 52 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: the roof and talk gutters. I'd like to end with 53 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: gutters today, but let's get down to the ground. What 54 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: do we do with clogged or buried area drains? Okay, 55 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: area drains around the house, around the property. When they 56 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: clog up, they can become a major problem. And by 57 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: the way, I'm gonna just get on my soapbox here 58 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: as a designer and a builder and tell you this, 59 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: we as a people in America, notoriously, especially in cities Okay, 60 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: notoriously overpave and over hardescape our properties. Right. Therefore, we 61 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: end up relying upon area drains to take the water 62 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: and move it off our property, which, if you live 63 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: in southern California in terms of the overall environment, is 64 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: exactly one hundred and eighty degrees the opposite of what 65 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: we should be doing most of the time. I have 66 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: nothing against area drains, they are critical at moments, but 67 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: just understand, we should be allowing far more of the 68 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: rain water that hits our property to remain on our property, 69 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 1: not on the surface where it's flooding everything, but allowing 70 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: it to absorb in. So this is the builder and 71 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: the designer both telling you when it comes to hardescape 72 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: around your property, the ideal amount of hardscape is the 73 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: minimum amount of hardescape. So we track where cars have 74 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: to pull in and what driveway areas cars have to use, 75 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: and we keep the driveways that size and no larger, 76 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: no smaller, no larger. When it comes to moving around 77 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: your house in the backyard area, I want hardscape where 78 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: it counts, where furniture and people are standing and walking, 79 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: and I don't want it where it doesn't count. You 80 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: know which is a lot of it right up against 81 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,119 Speaker 1: the side of the house, that huge patio of yours. 82 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: These are all areas where bit by bit, you know, 83 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: it's a game of inches and square footage, bit by bit, 84 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: we keep isolating the water that falls on our property 85 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: and allowing instead of allowing it to soak in and 86 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: water our own plants and trees and also become a 87 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: larger part of the aquafer for our neighborhood or our city, 88 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: or our region, we just grab it and we convey 89 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: it off the property via drains. They go out to 90 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: the curb. The curb drains flow into the storm drain, 91 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: and the storm drain pushes all of that fresh water 92 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: right out to the ocean, where it is of no 93 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: use to anyone. In southern California, trillions of gallons of 94 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: water every year are conveyed out to the ocean, water 95 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: that we could use for all sorts of practical purposes. 96 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: So that's just me, and I'm telling you this from 97 00:05:55,680 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: a design perspective. Hardscape does not a lovely backyard make Okay, 98 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: it is a component. It should not be the majority 99 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: of it. Now now that we can understand that and 100 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: understand that most of us are very dependent upon area 101 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: drains for our hardscape. We need to talk about what 102 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: happens if we're getting clogging or buried area drains that 103 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: aren't functioning properly. What are the steps that we should 104 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: take along the way to at least approach that area 105 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: that that subject and maybe improve the drainage so that 106 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: we don't have flooding up against the house. Why don't 107 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: we talk about that? Right on the other side your 108 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: Home with Dean Sharp, the house whisper. 109 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 110 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 2: KFI am six forty Here with. 111 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: My buddy Tina, who just brought in a fresh cup 112 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: of coffee for herself and none for me. What do 113 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: you have to say for yourself? 114 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: Do you like a cup of coffee? 115 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: I would, I would love a cup of coffee, But 116 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: you just stay put. You're more valuable here than any 117 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 1: cup of coffee, babe. See see how I rolled that 118 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: one in so I didn't sound insensitive, even though I 119 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: really really would love a cup of coffee. All right, 120 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: we're talking about what we do with the house after 121 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: the rain, drainage issues, roof stuff, leaks, gutter issues. I'm 122 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: gonna get to gutters in just a couple of minutes here, 123 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: but I want to finish up this idea of our 124 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: area drains. First of all, you need to map out 125 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: your drain system. If you do not understand the area 126 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: drain system, you don't know understand what connects to what 127 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: and what goes where. You need to understand it, okay. 128 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: And so whether that is opening up the drains, taking 129 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: the actual grates off the drains, putting a hose in 130 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: the furthest drain away from where you suspect it might 131 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: be running, and then going to one of the other 132 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: drains closer to the street and looking down through that grate, 133 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: or take off the grades and see if you can 134 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: see the water running there. In other words, map out 135 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: the drain system the worst case scenario. Hire a company 136 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: to come out and map it out for you. That'll 137 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: cost you a couple three hundred dollars, but it's well 138 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: worth the understanding and the knowledge. And also get them scoped. 139 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: Make sure we don't have root intrusion in there, make 140 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: sure that they're clear, make sure that they're functioning properly 141 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: in that regard too. Okay, So map out the drain 142 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: system you got to know what you're working with. That's 143 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: first thing. You might want to scope it for slope, 144 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: for obstructions, for damage. Right. You may in some cases 145 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: just need to alter the drain head in order to 146 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: get a drain functioning. Again, Now what do I mean 147 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: by that, Well, there are drains that have been placed, 148 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: and I hate these kinds of drains, by the way, 149 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: I really do. They're builder specials. Really, these are drains 150 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: that are like in planting beds, right that they're designed 151 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: to keep planting beds from overflowing, or they're maybe they're 152 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: in hard scape, but they're right next to an area 153 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: that gets it's a lot of leaf fall from trees 154 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: and stuff. Flat drains that are just above the surface 155 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: of the soil, and flat grates that are you know, 156 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: embedded into the concrete. I get it. Of course we 157 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: want it as flat, but not if it's not working. 158 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: And the problem is a flat drain, one big old 159 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: sycamore leaf that's wet and soggy can cover over and 160 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: seal off a drain. And now that drain is not 161 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: working anymore, and now we've got you know, compounding issues 162 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: and problems. Now it may be the case that you 163 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: keep that great flat through the summer in spring months 164 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: when big rain is not an issue, okay, for convenience, 165 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: But it may be the case that you should have 166 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: on hand some storm drains, some storm grates, and what 167 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: the storm grate would be would be the domed version 168 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: of a grate. There. Now it's trippable, right because it's 169 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: sticking up. But because it sticks up, it means that 170 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: leaves and debris can't clog it, can't cover it and 171 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: seal it over. So during the storm, when you're not 172 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: interested in walking out there anyway, you could pull out 173 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: the other grates, put them in the garage, pop these 174 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: in and say, okay, now we're storm ready because this 175 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: drain is not gonna get clogged up anymore. That's food 176 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: for thought, Okay, if possible, Instead of those drain heads 177 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: that are coming up in flower beds, I would rather 178 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: dig down a little bit, follow the pipe down until 179 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: we get to the horizontal run of the drain. Okay, 180 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: So in other words, take the riser out that the 181 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: riser is where nineties and it comes up through the soil, 182 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: and I would rather replace that superficial drain which is 183 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: always gonna get clagged you're just inviting debris to go 184 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: into it. I would rather replace that with a French drain, 185 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: a perforated drain that's under the ground, that's down in 186 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: the soil. Now it's not making direct contact with the soil. 187 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: You're gonna dig a little trench and you're gonna fill 188 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: part of that trench up with gravel, pea gravel or 189 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: full gravel, and then you're gonna lay this perforated drain 190 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: pipe in there, and then you're gonna sleave it, and 191 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: then you're gonna cover that with more gravel, and you're 192 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: gonna make a gravel envelope around this drain and then 193 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: soil on top. And what's gonna happen with all the 194 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: water that collects in that area is that it's gonna 195 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: soak in down through the soil. It's gonna hit that 196 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: void of the gravel. It's gonna run right into the 197 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: perforated drain and boom out it goes. It is a 198 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: very very precarious thing for your drainage system to be 199 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: dependent on these small three and four inch diameter openings 200 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: in the hardscape. It just is okay. So they have 201 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: to be in places where they are receiving the water efficiently, 202 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: not getting clogged, not getting blocked, and also they have 203 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: to work, and quite honestly, a lot of it. I mean, 204 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: I've got a very dear friend, one of my dearest friends, 205 00:11:55,520 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: and in a very very big, beautiful home, and the 206 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: exterior hardscape drainage system is kind of a joke at 207 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: his place. He's got seven or eight drains on one 208 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: side of his property and it's sizable, okay, collecting a 209 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: lot of water, all feeding into one trunk line, and 210 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: it's just not a good idea, not a good idea 211 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: at all. So drain systems are tricky. Yes, what can 212 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: you do about it? We can add more French drains. 213 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: I love the idea of French drains right next to 214 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: the foundation of a house. Okay, down again, buried and 215 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: in gravel. Because the whole purpose of a drainage system 216 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: ultimately is not to get the water out of your backyard. 217 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: It's to keep water away from the foundation of your house. 218 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: As for the rest of the water, let it go 219 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: where it needs to go, let it soak in wherever 220 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: it can soak in. You don't need to do the 221 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: heavy lift of taking every rain drop that falls on 222 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: your property and getting it out into the street. It 223 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: is a wasted effort, and it's an unhealthy effort in 224 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: terms of the overall environment for your yard. Okay, So 225 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: clearing those drains, adding multiple drain heads or French drains 226 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 1: wherever possible. And then of how I started reducing the hardscape. Okay, 227 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:23,239 Speaker 1: if we're thinking about remodeling or redoing things in the backyard, 228 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: let's minimize the hard scape. I wanted on walk paths only. 229 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: I want it on areas just big enough for the 230 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: furniture and for people only. I want to cut it away, 231 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: expose more soil, let more water absorb down in. Plus 232 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: the beauty of minimizing hard scape, all right, there's nothing 233 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: lovely about walking in. There's nothing romantic about a tarmac. Okay, 234 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: in your backyard, nothing lovely about it at all, soft, green, burdened. 235 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: There are so many surfaces, so many materials that can 236 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: be used. All right, when we come back, let's talk 237 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: about your guys, all right, we'll do that right after this. 238 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: Your Home with Dean Sharp the house Whisper. 239 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 2: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 240 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 2: KFI AM six forty. 241 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: The aftermath of the rains. You know, as a longfellow 242 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: once said that into each life, some rain must fall. 243 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: But he also in that same poem the rainy Day. 244 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: You should pull it out and read it. Just look 245 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: at online, find it. It's good, it's good. It really 246 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: doesn't have anything to do with rainy days. It has 247 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: to do with your life in general. I would strongly 248 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: encourage it. But in the same time that he said, 249 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: into each life, a little rain must paul, he wanted 250 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: to encourage us. He said, be still, be still, sad heart. 251 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: Behind the clouds, the sun is still shining, and that 252 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: is the truth, and we will see it yet again 253 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: here shortly southern California. You hang in there, buddy, I 254 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: don't know we really are. We're weather whimps. I love 255 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: I love inclement weather, just because we just don't get 256 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: enough it. But anyway, it's time to talk about gutters 257 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: and the builder Dean would like to invite the designer 258 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: Dean into this conversation. The builders had all morning to 259 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: talk about stuff, and I still got some things to 260 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: share with you. But the designer has a critical role 261 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: to play in this conversation because when it comes to 262 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: the gutters, on your house. You have minimize You've been 263 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: taught to minimize them, and as a result, they sag, 264 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: they fail, they give you problems all the time. And 265 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: I want that to stop. I want that to stop. 266 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: And one of the key areas to get that to stop, Dean, 267 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: would you like to comment on this, designer Dean, all right, 268 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: I will, thank you very much. The best way to 269 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: get your gutters to stop being neglected is to embrace 270 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: them from what they are, which is a significant potential 271 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: architectural detail for the front of a house. We I 272 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: don't know why. I think it's just because builders. Again, 273 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: it just goes back to the tracked home building process. 274 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: Builders have generally wanted to They've they've felt the need 275 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: to throw gutters on a house where necessary, and they 276 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: have tried to convince us, by their practices that the 277 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: best thing for a gutter to do is just go away. 278 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: And I strongly, strongly disagree with that premise. If you 279 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: live in a super contemporary home and our goal of 280 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: the design of your home is to hide the gutters, 281 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: then guess what We're gonna hide the gutter. We're not 282 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: gonna see them at all. But if gutters are appropriate 283 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: to the kind of architecture that your home is. There's 284 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: no reason to be embarrassed by them. In fact, I 285 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: go one hundred and eighty degrees the opposite direction. I 286 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: want you to jush up your house by accentuating your gutters. Now, 287 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: I don't want you to paint them knee on green 288 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: or anything, but I also want you to stop. By 289 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: and large, it doesn't apply to every situation, right, it's 290 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: not a law to guideline, but I want you to 291 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: stop painting them the same color as the facia and 292 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: the rest of the trim. They are a metal component 293 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: on the front of your house or on the perimeter 294 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: of your house, and to paint them and their down spouts, 295 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: by the way, all one strong, bold, metallic color. Quite 296 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: often we go for something that's in the kind of 297 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: the charcoal black, sort of like cast iron kind of tone. 298 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: Sometimes we go with the bronze. Sometimes, you know, on 299 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: our estate homes, we just simply put copper up everywhere 300 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: and just let it find its own patina. But here's 301 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: the idea. A gutter is essentially a crown molding mounted 302 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: to the outside of your house. Why would you want 303 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 1: to de emphasize it? Why would you want it to 304 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: go away? And why would you want to buy the 305 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: cheapest possible gutter so that that crown molding isn't standing 306 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: strong and proud and true and lasting just like everything 307 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: else on the outside of your house. So here's where 308 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: the designer in the builder shake hands again and say, yes, 309 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: the best gutter possible, and let's draw emphasis to it. Okay, 310 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: so great gutter designs. Gutters are highly visible, ignoring their 311 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: architectural value. Does a disservice to a house. Okay, don't 312 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: try to hide your gutters with camo paint. Now what 313 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: do I mean. I don't mean, like, you know, camouflage 314 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: colors like military camo. I mean you guys should know 315 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: what I mean. I mean, the gutter is painted the 316 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: color of the facierboard so that we don't draw attention 317 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: to it. And then as the downspout comes out of 318 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: the gutter and transitions at an angle over to the house, 319 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: then we draw a line and we change the paint color. 320 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: Now the gut, Now the downspout is painted the color 321 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: of the stucco or the sighting, and it goes down 322 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: the house because we're trying to get it to blend 323 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: in is if we're not gonna see it, why why 324 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: not emphasize that. Okay, I want you to take some 325 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: time go online and just search for decorative gutters. That's 326 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: all you have to do, decorative gutters. And here's what 327 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna find if you do a search for decorative gutters. 328 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: It's not it's not that you're gonna find million dollar gutters, 329 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: but you're gonna find gutters that a designer has had 330 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: their hands, uh in choosing the esthetic of and you're 331 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: gonna find that most of them, by and large, are 332 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: painted a distinct color from the house because we want 333 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: to see them because they're cool. Now I'm gonna hand 334 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: this back over to the builder because when it comes 335 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: to a cool gutter, here's what we're looking for. We're 336 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: looking for good hangers. Okay, not nails, good good gutter hangers. 337 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: We're looking for a sufficiently thick gauge of well, these days, 338 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: it's chances are it's going to be aluminum for most houses. 339 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 1: And we're looking for a nice down spout, not the 340 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: cheap o building center stuff. And we're gonna need to 341 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: make a decision about what the difference is in gutters 342 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: and the builder will explain that to you right after 343 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: this break your Home with Dean Sharp the house Whisper. 344 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 2: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 345 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 2: KFI AM six forty. 346 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: There is never any phase of a house construction, even 347 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: in the most practical sense, in which design is not 348 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: a significant component or pre component to having that done. Okay, 349 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: let's face it, We've got to design a thing before 350 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,959 Speaker 1: we build it. Once we build it, it's there and 351 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: it's harder to redesign it after the fact, but it 352 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: still can happen. It's important, It's very very important. Design 353 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: is what changes your life for the better. Construction is 354 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: what executes that design. And so part one of the 355 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: things that I'm all about here on the program is 356 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: bringing design into the major leagues. Not you know, I'm 357 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 1: taking it. I'm not taking it away, but I'm transporting 358 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: it from just the big house on the hill behind 359 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: the double gates down into mainstream American homes and mainstream 360 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: American homeowners. Because if we want this country of ours 361 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,719 Speaker 1: to read residentially more beauty, if you want your city 362 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: to just be a shining example of beauty, you know, 363 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: the big houses are already doing their thing and They're 364 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: just a small, tiny fraction. It's all the neighborhoods that 365 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 1: have to raise their game. That's what I'm about with you, 366 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: trying to help you. We're talking about all these things 367 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 1: today after the storm, roof leaks, drainage issues, and now 368 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: I'm talking about gutters, and from a design perspective, I 369 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: want to again underscore the fact that I want you, 370 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: in no way, shape or form to be hiding your 371 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: gutters unless the architectural design of your house has specifically 372 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: been done to hide the gutters, and we can make 373 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: gutters utterly invisible. I'm not talking about just de emphasizing 374 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: your gutters. If we can see your gutters from the street, 375 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: if we can see your gutters from the yard, I 376 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: want you to seriously consider accentuating them along the way. 377 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: And that accentuation will also help you make the proper 378 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: choices in the quality of the gutter, because once it's 379 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: important to you, then you'll stop cheaping out along the way. 380 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: What does that mean? Okay, well, let's talk for a 381 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: second about gutters. You know, gutter facts. The materials that 382 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: gutters are made out of are vinyl aluminum. Some usually 383 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: this is commercial, some galvanized steel gutters and copper. Okay, 384 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: residential these days it's vinyl, aluminum or copper almost all 385 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: the way. Okay, copper reserved for you know, the exclusive 386 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: kind of high end stuff or if you are trying 387 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: to make a statement on your little home and you know, 388 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: I'm all for it. Okay, aluminum is is the is 389 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: the widest swath right and they're they're good quality gutters 390 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: given the right gauge, and we'll talk about that in 391 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 1: a second. And vinyl gutters they're least expensive, they're a 392 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: DIY option. They look the worst, they sag the most, 393 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: they leak the most off. And does Dean like vinyl gutters? No, 394 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: I don't. I really really don't like vinyl gutters. I 395 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 1: mean really from a construction or a design perspective, you 396 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: know what we're in twenty twenty six. One of our 397 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: goals is to up our game on our YouTube channel, 398 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: the house Whisper YouTube channel. We've let it go, I 399 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: should say, we haven't given a lot of attention. We 400 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: haven't let it go, and it's not like it's falling apart, 401 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: but we haven't given a lot of attention because we've 402 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: been busy we've been busy running a design business and 403 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 1: doing you know, a radio show in a podcast, but 404 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: we're going to be giving some more emphasis to it 405 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: in twenty six and so as we increase the number 406 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: of visual aids that we do on that YouTube channel 407 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 1: and videos, I guarantee you that, just for the heck 408 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: of it, I'm going to do a video on vinyl 409 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,479 Speaker 1: gutters and that will be entitled how to properly install 410 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: a Vinyl gutter. And you'll see me purchasing a length 411 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: of vinyl gutter at the big box store for like 412 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: one dollar and bringing it home, that ten foot length 413 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: of gutter, and then throwing it in the trash, putting 414 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: on my tool bag and throwing it in the trash. 415 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: And that will be my entire how to video of 416 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: what to do with vinyl gutters, because that's how much 417 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: I dislike them they are. Anyway, let's just move on. 418 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: I'm just not going I don't want to waste the 419 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: last three minutes of the show talking about vinyl. I 420 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: want to talk about illuminum. UH Home Center aluminum gutter 421 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: stock rages in gauge from what's considered very very lightweight, okay, 422 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: point zero one to nine gauge or nineteen gauge. Sometimes 423 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: you can find twenty five gauge there nineteen and twenty 424 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: five gauge, both of which are lightweight. They're susceptible to warping, 425 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: even collapsing under accumulated snow. Now, I know, southern California 426 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: not a big snow issue unless you live in the mountains. 427 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: But still, you just got to understand. The gauge of 428 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: the gutter means a lot. Okay, contractors these days kind 429 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: of building industry standard uses a better gauge of gutter. 430 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: If if you have a gutter person come out to 431 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: your house, chances are they're going to be using twenty 432 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: seven gauge. You could ask them to use thirty two, 433 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: which in southern California would kind of represent my high 434 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: end gutter gauge. Thirty two gauge gutter copper varies. It 435 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: has a different to It has a sixteen gauge is 436 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: super heavy duty, twenty four gage is light. Twenty gauge 437 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: is the most common kind of medium duty. I'm a 438 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: huge fan of continuous gutters. Why because leaks occur at 439 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: seams and we want the minimal amount of seams and 440 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: a continuous gutter means a gutter service coming out to 441 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: your home, not with the gutters pre made, but with 442 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: big rolls of the right gauge of material on their trailer, 443 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,479 Speaker 1: and they will pull those rolls of material off and 444 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: they will form the gutter right in front of your 445 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: house in place to length. So it means the entire 446 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: length of run up to about fifty five fifty six 447 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: feet or so can be done out of a single 448 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: piece with no seams, which means no leaks out of seams. 449 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: That is the best way to get this done. Okay, 450 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: So a good gauge twenty seven gauge or thirty two 451 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: point zero three to two or point zero two seven 452 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: and continuous aluminum gutters formed out in front of your house. Now, 453 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: the last thing to talk about is attachment, the connection. 454 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: The rule of thumb is to put gutter hangers about 455 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: every three feet. Okay, unless you live in an area 456 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: with a lot of snow or ice load than every 457 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: two feet is better. But that connection point, that is 458 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 1: the other thing that eventually leads to leaks and or 459 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: failure of the gutter. No nails, no, none of those 460 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: giant gutter nails. I got nothing wrong with nails. But 461 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: nails are not designed to hold something from falling out 462 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: of a wall. They're designed for their sheer value, and 463 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: they do just fine with that. But a nail into 464 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: a piece of facierboard or a roof rafter, all it's 465 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: gonna do is guarantee that somewhere down the line, the 466 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,239 Speaker 1: wood around it expands and the nail gets loose, and 467 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: then the gutter underweight will start to sag. Okay, I 468 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: want a different kind of hanger, a better hanger, and 469 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: so this is the Now there's about twenty different styles 470 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: out there, So this is the conversation I want you 471 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: to have with your gutter people. Say, listen, I want 472 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 1: lasting hangers, screw in hangers at the absolute least, and 473 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: if not, straps that run up underneath your roofing material 474 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: a few inches around the roof hold those gutters in place. 475 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: And then solid down spouts, not ridged down spouts, but 476 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: solid smooth down spouts. That means heavy gauge metal on 477 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: the down spouts, because let's face it, that's the only 478 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: part of the gutter system that gets banged up and 479 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: abused by traffic. There you go, that's your gutter system guide. 480 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: That's everything that you need to know in dealing with 481 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: the aftermath of the rain. I hope today that these 482 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: things have helped you at least pointed you in the 483 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: right direction. You don't forget to look up decorative gutters 484 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: and find out just how much jush you can put 485 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: on your house by making a simple paint choice different 486 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: with your gutters. Ah, get out into this beautiful week 487 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: and get busy building yourself a beautiful life. We'll see 488 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: you next week. This has been Home with Dean Sharp, 489 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: the House Whisper. Tune into the Lie broadcast on KFI 490 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: AM six forty every Saturday morning from six to eight 491 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,959 Speaker 1: Pacific time and every Sunday morning from nine to new 492 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: Pacific time, or anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.