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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. We have college basketball to discuss Dayton a

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Speaker 2: winner last night. NKU A winner last night. We'll dive

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Speaker 2: into some more NKU and we will get some Darren

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Speaker 2: Horn postgame audio as well. There's also a lot of

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Speaker 2: news coming out of college basketball as we speak. One

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Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb, who's the coach at Green Bay in the

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Speaker 2: Horizon League. He went off on a temper tantrum against

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Speaker 2: officiating called for the head of the Horizon League to

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Speaker 2: make some changes. Well, changes were made. Gottlieb has been

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Speaker 2: suspended for one game. You'll hear why Doug Gottlieb was

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Speaker 2: so upset today as well. Last night, Arizona a winner

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Speaker 2: now without their second leading scorer in Richie Saunders. AJ

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Speaker 2: DEBONSTA last night, thirty five and seven not enough as

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Speaker 2: Arizona gets to win at home. Creighton, who was seven

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Speaker 2: unfortunate news out of Texas Tech as a Player of

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Speaker 2: the Year candidate JT. Toppin was confirmed to have a

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Speaker 2: Texas Tech, and you certainly feel bad for a player

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Speaker 2: going through that in his last season of college basketball.

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Speaker 2: But a tough break or Texas Tech and last night

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Speaker 2: Alabama in double overtime knocks off Arkansas won seventeen to

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Speaker 2: The college basketball world today, though, centers around Darren Peterson

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Speaker 2: of the Kansas Jayhawks. Darren Peterson last night, scoring wise,

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Speaker 3: In the game.

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Speaker 2: But he only played eighteen minutes. Eighteen minutes last night

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Speaker 2: for Darren Peterson, and that was not a coach's decision.

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Speaker 2: Bill Selth after the game last night said quote, We've

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Speaker 2: of him. It's disappointing because he could have had a

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Speaker 2: really big night. It's not just what he said, it's

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Speaker 2: the frustration that Bill self had on his face last

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Speaker 2: night when talking about Darren Peterson, who has now missed

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Speaker 2: twelve of what twenty five games that Kansas has played in.

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Speaker 2: He's also not played in the second half in multiple games.

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Speaker 2: yet a lot of people view Darren Peterson as one

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Speaker 2: of the best or the best prospect coming in this

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Speaker 2: Then you've got to take the power away. And then

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Speaker 3: You know what he's gonna do, not play against Houston.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna hear all of this, he's gonna see all this,

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Speaker 2: and he's gonna play thirty six minutes against the Bearcats

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Speaker 2: on Saturday maybe, and he's gonna go out and try

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Speaker 3: He cares about getting his money, which he will in

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Speaker 3: scoring points and you're taking care of yourself, that's the

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Speaker 3: culture that is a big part of college athletics. It's

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Speaker 3: the type of stuff that has driven coaches away from sports,

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Speaker 3: and Bill self is dealing with that and in a

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Speaker 3: You know, this is this is part of it.

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Speaker 2: Jay Williams and Kendrick Perkins made the point today of

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Speaker 3: I think it's part of it. I think it's also

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Speaker 3: giving millions of dollars to young people, but to a point.

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Speaker 2: But to a point like Boozer from Duke to Bonsta

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Speaker 2: and as as different values. As Jay Williams concluded today,

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Speaker 3: Okay, so how exactly is that going to be handled?

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Speaker 2: That's the thing I don't understand, because if you're Kansas,

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Speaker 2: Because he's he's making his money regardless that you bench him,

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Speaker 3: You can force it.

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Speaker 2: You can almost handle it more in the NBA now

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Speaker 3: And so Bill self, I would love to see him

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Speaker 3: try to bench him. What's he gonna do. He's not

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Speaker 2: Guy legitimately just doesn't look like he cares. But he's

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Speaker 3: You know, it is a it's a different world right now.

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Speaker 3: It's a unique situation. We'll get Rick Buryin's thoughts on

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Speaker 3: How about the Olympics. We sat here during the show

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Speaker 2: What a thriller in Milan yesterday for team USA winning

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Speaker 3: The hockey has been wonderful, awesome. We watched more curling

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Speaker 2: Do you know how much the average rock ways that

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Speaker 3: Is the rock? Okay? I believe granite.

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Speaker 2: A rare, exceptionally dense and water resistant granite that is carried,

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Speaker 2: Water resistant granted, water resistant granted. But Olympics have been

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Speaker 2: obviously fun to watching. The USA women's hockey team will

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Speaker 3: And another chapter in the USA Canada. Oh yeah, this

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Speaker 3: one million dollars? Not bad?

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Speaker 2: How about the MLBPA elevating Bruce Meyer to their executive

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Speaker 3: I mean just wonderful performance in front of I think

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Speaker 2: Five one, three seven, fourteen thirty on the Home of

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Speaker 8: If Brian Ramirez across the end of the box far

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Speaker 2: As FC Cincinnati wins it last night. I believe this

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Speaker 3: Was it this weekend? That's right? This weekend against Atlanta

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Speaker 3: sponsored sports sportstership. That's it. Actually, I kind of like that,

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Speaker 2: Last night, the Norse starting to find their way a

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Speaker 9: Total team effort tonight, I think from start to finish,

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Speaker 12: I need the league to explain to me why I

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Speaker 13: That's what we ask.

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Speaker 3: Donnie, that's what I need explain to me.

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Speaker 12: I got no problem with their team, their staff. They

439
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Speaker 12: played hard, they did what they do. They played tough,

440
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Speaker 12: and they play aggressive. I need somebody to explain to me. Okay,

441
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Speaker 12: how how just those two. There's others that I have

442
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Speaker 12: massive issues with. Okay, others that have a mask, including

443
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Speaker 12: every time we touched him. There was a foul in

444
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Speaker 12: the second half, the last play of the game, just

445
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Speaker 12: to get the ball.

446
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Speaker 3: They're grabbing us and holding us.

447
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Speaker 12: Okay, and again, I understand if you're not calling that,

448
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 12: that's fine. You had the exact same play at both

449
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Speaker 12: ends in the last play of the game, the exact

450
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Speaker 12: same play. Oh gosh, the exact same play. So I

451
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Speaker 12: need the new commissioner of the Horizon League to explain.

452
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Speaker 3: To me what a technical foul is.

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Speaker 12: When I don't leave the box, I don't curse, I'm

454
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Speaker 12: not demonstrative.

455
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Speaker 3: Okay.

456
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Speaker 12: There was nothing, nothing that should have been called a

457
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Speaker 12: technical foul. I know when I earned one. I did

458
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Speaker 12: not earn one.

459
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Speaker 3: He knows when he earns one. He went on for

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Speaker 3: another minute.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god.

462
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Speaker 3: After that now.

463
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Speaker 2: He he didn't cuss on the floor, He cussed in

464
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Speaker 2: the post game.

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Speaker 3: He did knocked the microphone over. Yeah, he slammed his

466
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Speaker 3: hands on the table. He but you know that's what

467
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Speaker 3: he wasn't on the court, He wasn't demonstrative. No, he

468
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Speaker 3: didn't curse, he didn't leave his box. No, But in

469
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Speaker 3: the postgame presser he sure.

470
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Speaker 2: Did called out the officials, called out the Horizon League

471
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Speaker 2: commissioner herself.

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Speaker 3: Didn't know her name though.

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Speaker 4: No.

474
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Speaker 2: In a statement made by the Horizon League later yesterday,

475
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Speaker 2: the Horizon League is the spending Green Bays basketball coach

476
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Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb for violating the league's operating regulations. As a result,

477
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Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb has been suspended for Friday's game against Oakland.

478
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Speaker 2: Gottlieb's postgame comments do not reflect the league's values or

479
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Speaker 2: sportsmanship expectations. The Horizon League considers this matter closed and

480
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Speaker 2: will have no further comment. Now there is a Since then,

481
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb has issued an apology, and you knew that

482
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Speaker 2: was coming. But there's like audio and video where he

483
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Speaker 2: really didn't demonstratively go at the official in any way.

484
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Speaker 2: He was teed up whether you agree with it or not,

485
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 2: you could tell that that's a guy who's just kind

486
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 2: of stewing on things and used that platform to absolutely

487
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Speaker 2: explode on not only the Horizon League, but the as well.

488
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Speaker 3: I think he missed doing the radio show that was it.

489
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Speaker 3: You know, he hasn't he hasn't had a chance to

490
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Speaker 3: really just brain dump in a while, hasn't had a

491
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Speaker 3: chance to passionately defend a stance, and you know, it's

492
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 3: been focusing so much on basketball. I hadn't had a

493
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Speaker 3: chance to to really let it rip, you know, and

494
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Speaker 3: get his therapy in, like, and he just went off

495
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Speaker 3: and he transported himself. I'm surprised you didn't just like

496
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Speaker 3: throw to a break afterwards. All right, we'll be right

497
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Speaker 3: back from the tirec backop studio. Surprised? Could you?

498
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Speaker 2: Could you like Mesh part of his and part of

499
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Speaker 2: Mick Cronin's in their postgame brands.

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Speaker 3: I just loved that one. As time has gone on,

501
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 3: like the Cronin video is just it's getting worse and worse.

502
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 3: It's getting funnier and and I don't think it's funny

503
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 3: because I think he's it is funny, but like it's sad,

504
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 3: so at the same time, Mick is a bad guy.

505
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Speaker 2: They took the background noise of one shining moment. Have

506
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Speaker 2: you I've seen this, and they just put kind of

507
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 2: every Mick Cronin rant with the background music playing, and

508
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 2: it was fantastic. I just I love entertainment in sports,

509
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 2: and we have certainly seen a ton of that this week.

510
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Speaker 2: Let's switch gears, Let's come back. Let's talk a little

511
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Speaker 2: Red spring training. They got their first scrimmage coming up.

512
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 2: Let's talk about what to expect from that, who's starting

513
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 2: the scrimmage, and so many other loose ended topics that

514
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 2: are happening in Goodyear Arizona as the Reds continue to

515
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Speaker 2: get ready for opening day, which now Austin sits what thirty.

516
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Speaker 3: Five days away?

517
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Speaker 2: Jose Travino, Jose Travino thirty five days away inspire from

518
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Speaker 2: opening Day. We'll talk more on that next ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 2: thirty Cincinnati Sports Dation.

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Speaker 3: Thanks to Skyline Chili. Are you experiencing on one of

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Speaker 3: AG's and pain Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: It's sixty three sixty on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnatis Sports Station.

523
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 2: Thanks to our friends, It's Skyline Chili. Anytime you're feeling

524
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 2: good and hungry. It is Skyline time. I am scheduled.

525
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 2: I'm slated often to have Skyline for dinner tonight.

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Speaker 3: Really.

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00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: Yes, it is the first art show that our kids

528
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 2: are a part of. Wow, wild and Wesley's first art show,

529
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 2: and their school partnered up with a Skyline Chili where

530
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Speaker 2: some of the proceeds go back to the school.

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Speaker 3: What did they what art did they create? We don't know.

532
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 2: You haven't seen it. We've not seen any of this.

533
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 2: They didn't know what's happening until I said it this morning.

534
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 2: Oh so they're working on it as we speak.

535
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Speaker 3: Probably. Do you think, you know, when it's like arts

536
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 3: and crafts time at the school that they just throw

537
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Speaker 3: us on the speaker? Yes?

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00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's a high likelihood that we are

539
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Speaker 2: kind of the background noise.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 2: They've been doing Olympic Week at school. They've been doing

542
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: some Olympic stuff, So I'm sure with our Olympic updates,

543
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 2: they've been tuning in.

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Speaker 3: Often based off of the content that you've been posting

545
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Speaker 3: on your instrut, it seems like Wilder is going to

546
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Speaker 3: be competing in the Olympics someday.

547
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Speaker 2: He's he's a bucket. He's a bucket right now. He's uh,

548
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 2: he's doing he's doing well, by the way. Uh, scheduled

549
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: for a one ten start the Olympic gold medal game

550
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Speaker 2: between USA and Canada women's hockey.

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Speaker 3: That might get.

552
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 2: Pushed back a little bit because Sweden and Switzerland the

553
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 2: bronze medal game is in overtime right now, so that

554
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: game time may get pushed back a little bit. Will

555
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 2: keep you up to speed, and uh, uh, maybe let

556
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 2: you know when and if a couple of goals are

557
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Speaker 2: scored by Team USA. Now we we talked very briefly yesterday.

558
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 2: Chase Burns was named the starter for the first scrimmage

559
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Speaker 2: on Saturday. Correct, Yes, first scrimmage coming up for the Reds.

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Speaker 3: Is it just scrimmage?

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Speaker 14: Oh?

562
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 3: Know what do we call him?

563
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Speaker 13: Game?

564
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Speaker 15: Inn?

565
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Speaker 3: Squad?

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Speaker 4: No?

567
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Speaker 3: No, they play another team?

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Speaker 4: Squad? Who do they play?

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Speaker 3: Cleveland Garlands? Who play Cleveland every year? First game? I

570
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Speaker 3: guess we'll call it a game now, the spring training game,

571
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Speaker 3: all right, Chase Burns will be on the on the bump.

572
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 3: The Cactus League opener, the Cactus League opener?

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Speaker 2: How many do they play? Too many? It's so bad? Actually,

574
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Speaker 2: I don't know I feel like.

575
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Speaker 3: Sometimes they do like split squad and play two games

576
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Speaker 3: at once. Yeah, I was about to say, I feel

577
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Speaker 3: like there are fewer split squad games this year. I

578
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Speaker 3: don't know if that's on purpose. I don't know if

579
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Speaker 3: I made that up, but it feels like there are

580
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 3: fewer split squads okay this year. I mean, just looking

581
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 3: at it, I only see three on the schedule, okay,

582
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Speaker 3: and normally there's been a lot and that probably I

583
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Speaker 3: would assume that might have to do with the World

584
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 3: Baseball Classic and stuff like that. But by the way,

585
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Speaker 3: the Reds play Cuba in a spring training game, Oh,

586
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 3: that's kind of cool. That is cool. They're playing the

587
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 3: World Baseball Classic the Cuban national team.

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Speaker 4: That is cool.

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Speaker 3: Uh in a on March fourth.

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Speaker 2: UH Terry Francona spoke earlier today as well about Cees.

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Speaker 2: Ces kind of been like the un the guy we

592
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Speaker 2: haven't talked about at all. Sas Terry Francona said that

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Speaker 2: uh Cees could get into spring training games at the

594
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Speaker 2: beginning of next week.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: He also said on Ces this spring, sometimes when you

597
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Speaker 2: work hard, regardless of what's going on numbers wise, he

598
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Speaker 2: has been able to do just that. Let's see how

599
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Speaker 2: good he can be. That's a healthy way to look

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Speaker 2: at it. Yeah, he did have that hamstring injury. Are

601
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Speaker 2: you expecting anything at all from Cees? No, Like, would

602
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Speaker 2: anything at all be a huge, huge.

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Speaker 3: In terms of the big league club. Yes, No, I

604
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Speaker 3: don't expect anything from There's just not a spot there

605
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Speaker 3: for him. I think the Nathaniel low thing was was

606
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Speaker 3: kind of riding on the wall there. You know, Hey,

607
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Speaker 3: we don't expect much from Sas either. I would like

608
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Speaker 3: to know kind of what he's focusing on. Is he

609
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Speaker 3: playing any third base? Is he playing any outfield? Because

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Speaker 3: I feel like that happened at one point. Don't quote

611
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Speaker 3: me on that, but like, what's the defensive plan with him?

612
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Speaker 3: Because it feels like it's gonna be Sal Stewart or

613
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Speaker 3: Spencer Steeer or maybe even Nathaniel Lowe at least for

614
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Speaker 3: this year. Who knows about next year and the year after.

615
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Speaker 3: So what's the plan with Sas?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: It would it could be one of those things for

618
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 3: they hope he plays really well and they can trade him.

619
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Speaker 2: The Nathaniel low addition. Now, Nathaniel low is not guaranteed

620
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Speaker 2: an opening day roster spot. He's not a minor league deal,

621
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Speaker 2: but he's won a Gold Glove and they brought him

622
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Speaker 2: in for a reason. My question is, if you have

623
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Speaker 2: Trevigno's your backup catcher, Dame Myers is your fourth outfielder,

624
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 2: does it not come down to bladet Low or Will

625
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Speaker 2: Benson for the final roster spot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that sounds right.

627
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Speaker 2: I saw what Art Brandon Glick wrote about this. Who

628
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Speaker 2: gets that edge in your opinion? Because you made to

629
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Speaker 2: mention last week that Will Benson is still a rising talent.

630
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And based off of what Charlie Goldsmith wrote this

631
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Speaker 3: week about Benson, it seems like Benson's going to be

632
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Speaker 3: on this team.

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Speaker 2: Does that mean we possibly don't see JJ bloday? Yeah,

634
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Speaker 2: and that's on the opening day roster.

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Speaker 3: I think it's closer to Bleday and Myers as a competition,

636
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 3: the competition more than it is Will Benson.

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Speaker 2: Okay, interesting to look at it that way. Another player

638
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Speaker 2: that I saw some folks talking about for the Cincinnati

639
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: Reds because last year because of his suspension, I think

640
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 2: Noel A. Martin, what you got from him down the

641
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: stretch was an added bonus and you start to look

642
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Speaker 2: at Okay, is there a player on the twenty twenty

643
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: six team that can make a return. Maybe that we're

644
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 2: not talking about a lot, And I think it'd be

645
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 2: great to talk to Charlie Goldsmith about this yesterday. But

646
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 2: does Chase Petty have a future with this organization? He

647
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: was abysmal last year in three games.

648
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say he does. I mean it's still

649
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 3: a really young guy. I think they still really like him.

650
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 3: That the depth of the starting pitching status, it's not

651
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 3: he's needed right now. Yeah, it's not something like, you know,

652
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 3: they have to have him and right away. He was

653
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 3: kind of rust into action at times last year and

654
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 3: maybe wasn't entirely ready and was kind of forced into

655
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 3: it again after he had gotten shelled. So yeah, I

656
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Speaker 3: think he's he's a part of it. I think everybody

657
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Speaker 3: is a trade piece in Major League Baseball. But yeah,

658
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: I think the Reds one of their organizational goals this

659
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 3: year is really to develop those guys that are seven, eight, nine,

660
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 3: ten in the organizational depth chart of starting pitching. Yeah,

661
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 3: so Rhet Louder is Rhet Louder. Chase Burns five to six,

662
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 3: You've got Brandon Williamson, You've got Chase Petty and others

663
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 3: down that line where they need to get more out

664
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Speaker 3: of that group.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I'm it's one of those things where

666
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: it's just the way baseball's played. You can never really

667
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 2: rest on what you have. You enjoy what the rotation

668
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,719
Speaker 2: looks like, but you have to be still looking forward

669
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Speaker 2: to the future and the opportunity that can still present

670
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: itself for this team.

671
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

672
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Speaker 3: I think another one that is in that same vein

673
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 3: as Julian Agie Are. I think that's a name to

674
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 3: keep an eye on as somebody. But you know, I

675
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 3: think the last time we had Charlie on, he talked

676
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 3: about how he has that worry about the depth of

677
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 3: the starting pitching after the top five and or really

678
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 3: after the top six, and how some teams over the

679
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 3: course of a season need fifteen starters to get through

680
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 3: it because of injuries. And if you think back to like,

681
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 3: even as good as is, how even as good as

682
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 3: the red starters had been in the past, and especially

683
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 3: last year, they still let the trade deadline went out

684
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 3: and got a starting pitcher because they didn't have faith

685
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 3: in that depth and obviously the injuries as well. So yeah,

686
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 3: it's a huge thing for this organization. I think this

687
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 3: year to see some development from that part of the roster.

688
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 3: And again that's not necessarily a major league impact. It's

689
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 3: can you have these dudes ready to go when the

690
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,439
Speaker 3: major leagues are gonna call? And then because it will,

691
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 3: that's how it happens.

692
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Speaker 2: There's a playoff odds calculator that Fangrafts has that I am, I'm.

693
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Speaker 3: Very interested in.

694
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Speaker 2: And to me, I don't know what to make of

695
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 2: where the Reds sit in the National League, because I

696
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 2: like to think that they're better than what they were

697
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: last year. But according to Fangrafts, they have the Reds

698
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 2: odds to just make the playoffs as the fifth lowest

699
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Speaker 2: at all of the National League Rockies, Nationals, Marlins, Cardinals,

700
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 2: and then the Reds. They give them a twenty point

701
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 2: three percent chance to make the playoffs. Above them the Padres,

702
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 2: the Diamondbacks, the Giants, the Brewers.

703
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 3: Listen to this.

704
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 2: Austin Fangrafts has the Pirates at a forty three percent

705
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 2: chance to make the playoffs going into twenty twenty six. Yeah,

706
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 2: people really like what the Pirates have done. This often Cubs, Phillies, Mets, Braves, Dodgers.

707
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 2: So I think it's a little low. How oft does

708
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 2: this feel to you, because I think the Reds have

709
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 2: a better chance than twenty percent to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's about right. To be honest,

711
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 3: you think they're that far behind the Pirates right now.

712
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 3: I don't know that they're that far behind the Pirates,

713
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 3: but I mean, the Pirates always give the Reds hell,

714
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 3: and the Cubs are still very much formidable. Milwaukee is

715
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 3: still very much formidable. The Pirates are going to be

716
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 3: a better team for all those reasons. That makes your

717
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: schedule more difficult. The Phillies and the Mets and the

718
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 3: Braves have all spent a lot of money to fix

719
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 3: their issues. Arizona's got some injuries at the moment, but

720
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 3: the Dodgers, the Padres, and the Giants have all spent

721
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 3: a ton of money to fix their issues. I think

722
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 3: it's more reflective of the rest of the National League

723
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 3: than it is specifically about the Reds. And it's not

724
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 3: to say that the Reds have had a bad offseason.

725
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 3: I don't think they have. I think they've been Okay,

726
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 3: we gave it a grade what last week or two

727
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 3: days ago, C plus C minus. I don't know that

728
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 3: it's enough to get them over the hump. Nobody looks

729
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 3: at the Reds and things to ninety four win ball club.

730
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 3: Nobody looks at him and says, that's a ninety win team.

731
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 3: It's somewhere between eighty two and eighty eight, and that's

732
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 3: you know, is that enough to win the National League Central?

733
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 3: Is that enough to get the final wildcard spot?

734
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Speaker 4: I don't know.

735
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: Their NL Central fangraft projection is eight point nine percent.

736
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: By the way, I don't want to turn this in

737
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 2: with Pittsburgh, but they there are people that believe Connor Griffin,

738
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: the shortstop in Pittsburgh and the presumed opening day shortstop, yeah,

739
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: is like the next best thing and the next big

740
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 2: thing at shortstop.

741
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that major league. But he spent a lot of

742
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 3: talk about him. Obviously, schemes in their pitching staff, yeah,

743
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 3: I mean they've got some depth there. They went and

744
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 3: got Barcelos and they've got some good Now. I don't

745
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: know that there's a lot of Pirates fans seem to

746
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 3: want Andrew McCutchen back. He's thirty nine years old, he

747
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 3: still wants to play. Released a hype video today. Would

748
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 3: you take a flyer on Andrew McCutcheon. Yeah, I mean,

749
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 3: what do you Why wouldn't you. He's thirty nine years

750
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 3: old and you got a bunch of outfielders already. You're

751
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 3: talking about here in Pittsburgh here. Oh yeah, i'd take

752
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 3: a flyer on the Cutchen. Okay, yeah, I probably would too.

753
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 3: I like m Cutchen.

754
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's no reason to really. But yeah, last

755
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: year Mcutchen still hit two forty.

756
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, on this kid, just fall out of

757
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 3: bed and hit it. But yeah, it's I I think

758
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 3: the Cubs are a little overrated. I'll say that. I

759
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 3: think the Pirates and the Reds are very close. And

760
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 3: I don't really know what to make of Milwaukee. But

761
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 3: you know, I feel like we said this a thousand times,

762
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 3: they'll be good. It's just it's it's the margin of

763
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 3: air is just very thin. It feels like an es

764
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 3: Central issue. Yeah, every single team, with the exception of

765
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 3: the Cardinals, who aren't trying to win baseball games anymore,

766
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:47,439
Speaker 3: is somewhere between seventy eight and eighty eight wins. Yeah,

767
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 3: and that I think is the biggest reason why those

768
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,439
Speaker 3: numbers are the case. And kind of, like I said

769
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 3: earlier this week, I think sometimes the numbers get in

770
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 3: the way of like, Okay, are these guys. Do these

771
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 3: guys have it or not sure? And so for them

772
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 3: people that have been there. And I put a lot

773
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 3: of stock in what Joe Daniman said to us the

774
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 3: other day, which is that you know, he's been to

775
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 3: a lot of spring trainings and covered a lot of teams,

776
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 3: and he walked into Too Goodyear this week and was like, yes,

777
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 3: this is a playoff team. And when you can tell

778
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 3: you know the difference that I think means something stands out.

779
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 3: And I do think the advantage of Terry Francona, even

780
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 3: though we disagreed with a lot of the stuff he

781
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 3: said or he did last year, I think that can

782
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 3: be an advantage.

783
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 2: Phone lines were open five, one, three, seven, four nine,

784
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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. We will end our number one. We'll welcome

785
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 2: in Rick Broying to kick off our number two. It

786
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Speaker 2: all comes up next ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

787
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Speaker 1: You found Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

788
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 2: Welcome back cinty three to sixty thanks to Skyline Chilli

789
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: rolling along.

790
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Speaker 3: End of our number one.

791
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Speaker 2: Let's see if we could squeeze in one or two

792
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Speaker 2: phone calls let's start with Marcus.

793
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 15: What's up, Marcus Hey about Tyler Stevenson this year? Apparently

794
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 15: everything I'm reading and I'm seeing they are so far

795
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 15: apart on years and money for an extension. And I

796
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 15: don't know if Jeff Carr said.

797
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Speaker 16: It when he was on with you guys or with MO,

798
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 16: but apparently.

799
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Speaker 15: They like he's under the oppression that they could get

800
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 15: something done in the offseason.

801
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 3: Are we confident.

802
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 15: Because of how far apart supposedly they are, and with

803
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 15: him taking the Reds to arbitration this year, that they're

804
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 15: going to get a deal done and if not, do

805
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 15: you trade him at the deadline no matter where the

806
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 15: Red d are in the playoff him?

807
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Marcus, I think that's a fair question. I appreciate

808
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: the phone call.

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00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 4: You know.

810
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: It's a weird situation because I think when he's going good,

811
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 2: he's one of the best hitting catchers you can have

812
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 2: in baseball Austin. He's obviously had some bumps and bruises,

813
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 2: He's had some injury concerns. I don't know if he's

814
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 2: been one hundred percent right since the shoulder injury, but

815
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 2: it feels like with arbitration and how these tools IDEs

816
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 2: wore a part on the number. I wouldn't expect an

817
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: extension with Tyler Stevensima.

818
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 3: Jill, I don't at the moment. I think the way

819
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 3: that Tyler described it before the season. When he met

820
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 3: with the media last week, he described it feeling bittersweet,

821
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 3: like the conversations he was having with his wife prior

822
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 3: to this season, because it kind of feels like this

823
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 3: is it yep for him and the Reds and obviously

824
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 3: they go into too arbitration and Stevenson wins. But I

825
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 3: thought it was interesting what Charlie Goldsmith had written about this.

826
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 3: He said before twenty twenty six, no homegrown Reds player

827
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 3: had taken or had they had gotten rid of. Who

828
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 3: was it India Winker, Stevens or I forget exactly what

829
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 3: it was here it is I got it India, Jesse Winker,

830
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: Swore as Barnhardt. They all were either traded or non

831
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 3: tendered before their sixth season in the big leagues. And

832
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 3: you know, this could be a similar situation, especially if

833
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 3: Jose Travino plays the way he did last year.

834
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

835
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 3: Now, the problem is the Rets have no catching depths

836
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 3: at all in their organization, So I don't know if

837
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 3: they'd be willing to trade him at the deadline this

838
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 3: year unless they're getting a catcher in return.

839
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 2: I just don't think that would have from him. But

840
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 2: it is interesting looking into the future. One more here,

841
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 2: what's up Mike?

842
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 17: Hey, guys, thanks a lot, interesting talking about the baseball

843
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 17: for me. Be a question for you. The Cactus League

844
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,919
Speaker 17: is in the on the West coast. What is the

845
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 17: East coast preseason.

846
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 3: Called Grapefruit League in Florida?

847
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 17: Very well done. I'm proud of you. Good job. I

848
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 17: heard people say the Orange League and the Pepperoni League.

849
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 17: I don't know what the hell they say, but anyway,

850
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 17: good job, good job. And do you remember the last

851
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 17: which hitter to win the MLB in the American leagues?

852
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 3: The MVP?

853
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 17: Yes, they're the last switch hitter to win the MVP

854
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 17: in the American League.

855
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 3: I don't know, Austin, I had no idea, I know,

856
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 3: not in the American League.

857
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 2: Okay, I was gonna say Tipper Jones won it, but

858
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 2: that's National League.

859
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 17: Vite of Blue, the weft handed ace of the Oakland As.

860
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,439
Speaker 17: In nineteen seventy two, the year before the designated hitter

861
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 17: came in, he won the Cy Young and he won

862
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 17: the MVP and he was a switch hitter.

863
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 3: Not a bad year.

864
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 17: You can win a ton of money in the bar

865
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 17: on that tribut.

866
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 3: I never got it.

867
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 17: I never got that one. That's when the Ads were

868
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 17: pretty dominant. I think they won three Worlds Series back

869
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 17: in the seventies. I think they won one more than

870
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 17: the rest. I got a quick rundown. I told you

871
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 17: I was going to try to Oh Florida. Florida is,

872
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 17: by the way, I'm going to win the March Madness

873
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 17: Sport is gonna win it. I'm convinced. But now it's

874
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 17: gonna give you a quick rundown on the Pirates. I'll

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Speaker 17: just do a team each day if I Potokia. Here's

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00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 17: what we got for their twenty twenty six lineup. They

877
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 17: got a young catcher they're pretty high on after last

878
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 17: year named Joey Bart, the backup guy named Henry Davis.

879
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 17: There's first baseman who's at Yeah. The first baseman is

880
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Speaker 17: really the guy that came up last year was just

881
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 17: killing the balls. His name is Spencer horre Witz, left

882
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 17: handed hitter. They got Brandon Lowe to play second base

883
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 17: from the Rays. He's hitting third. Their third baseman Jared Triolo,

884
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 17: who's a young Studs is hitting cleanup. Connor Griffin's scheduled

885
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 17: to hit fifth. Ryan O'Hearn, who they picked up in

886
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 17: free agency, was the first baseman and also a left fielder.

887
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 17: He's going to be playing left. And they got the

888
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 17: great O'Neil Cruz, dynamite center fielder hitting six, Brian Reynolds

889
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 17: career good hitter in right field, and Marcel Azuna hitting

890
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 17: as a DH. And then they got schemes in Keller

891
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 17: and Braxton as you had mentioned earlier here the other day,

892
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 17: and their closure is has a stud of a last

893
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 17: half of the season. Last year, Dennis santana I had

894
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 17: a two point one to six with sixteen saves after

895
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 17: the All Star break. And they got a lefty closer

896
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 17: named brag Soto who's been around a little bit. So

897
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 17: that's it on my pirates.

898
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 2: Mike, and a and a really good young shortstop coming

899
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Speaker 2: up as well. That's going to take the league by storm. Mike,

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00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 2: thank you for the phone call. We appreciate you. It

901
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 2: it is I think when you lay it out, there

902
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,919
Speaker 2: is a path that Pittsburgh surprises some people, or maybe

903
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 2: not not a surprise anymore. But can do some damage

904
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 2: in the NL Central this year. Let's break, Let's come back,

905
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Speaker 2: and Rick Browing will join us to kick off hour

906
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Speaker 2: number two. We've got some Norse, some Muskies, and overall

907
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 2: college hoops to talk about next on ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 18: Wise Cincinnati, make us the number one pre sent on

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Speaker 18: your car radio and on the free new and improved

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Speaker 18: iHeartRadio add free never sounded so good. ESPN fifteen thirty

912
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Speaker 18: would the headlines are, this is.

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Speaker 1: Tony Pike Sincy three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati. This

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Speaker 1: is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

915
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Speaker 2: Our number two is here. Let's dive right in. Let's

916
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 2: talk more college basketball. As the calendar gets ready to

917
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 2: turn to March. NKU starts to play their best basketball

918
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 2: seeming the year in and year out.

919
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 3: Let's talk Norse.

920
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 2: Let's talk some Xavier Musketeer basketball and college hoops in

921
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 2: general with our guy Rick Bryn joining us right now.

922
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Speaker 3: What's up, Rick?

923
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Speaker 4: Talk about?

924
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 5: Are you having me on to talk about the big news?

925
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 3: What do you you want to talk about? Doug Gottlieb,

926
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 3: Is that what you're talking about?

927
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 5: No, the big news out of Highland Hips last night.

928
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 3: Did you not hear Moagger courtside?

929
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Speaker 17: Yeah?

930
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 5: They NKU administration took a vote and they decided that

931
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Speaker 5: the I heart guy, they weren't representing the Norse ping.

932
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Speaker 4: Austin.

933
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 5: Wow, it's amazing, massive, massive game last night in Hland Heights,

934
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 5: easy one to get to on a Wednesday evening, and

935
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Speaker 5: Austin Olmore is nowhere to be found. Tony, I couldn't

936
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 5: believe that.

937
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that just a couple of years ago

938
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 3: Moe was ejected from sitting courtside at an n KU

939
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 3: game to now being the the delegated member. I mean

940
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 3: it's it's impressive comeback player of the year Moegar huge.

941
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 2: I mean this, this is massive news right now that

942
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 2: we're here in and and again you have to question

943
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 2: where has Austin been?

944
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 3: What has been more important?

945
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:46,919
Speaker 6: June?

946
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 5: You tell me, I don't know, Like I'm not you know,

947
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 5: I'm behind the scenes.

948
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 4: I'm in a media role.

949
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 5: But like, if you're a fan of a team that

950
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 5: is fighting for its life. Five seed host a home

951
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 5: first round game in the Horizon League tournament and you

952
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,479
Speaker 5: got a must win at home against pretty Fort Wayne,

953
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 5: you would think, yeah, I like Austin Olmore would be there.

954
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 4: I don't know, that's a.

955
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 3: Great point, you would think.

956
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 2: I'm sure that's something that Darren Horn has addressed and

957
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 2: it's now something that this team has to overcome to

958
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 2: move forward.

959
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 3: And they've done that.

960
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: They had the five game losing streak, they've now won

961
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 2: three in a row. What's been different with this with

962
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 2: this basketball team?

963
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 3: Rick?

964
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 5: You know, it's funny because we've talked about it throughout

965
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 5: the I've talked once or twice with you guys, and

966
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 5: then no has gone every Wednesday, and we seemingly through

967
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 5: about a month long stretch, maybe even longer than that,

968
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 5: it was like, you know, is this team going to

969
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 5: be able to figure out how to close games out defensively?

970
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 5: Can they get the stops they need to win some

971
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 5: of these closed games in the Horizon League? And they

972
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 5: started to do that, and then last night, not only

973
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 5: did they they do that, they didn't need that at

974
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 5: the end of the game. They were doing it early on,

975
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 5: they were getting big plays defensively in the first half.

976
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 5: That's at the tone. And then there was a middle

977
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 5: part of the second half where they had a twelve

978
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 5: point lead and within forty seconds pretty four Winne hit

979
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 5: back to back threes, they cut it down to six,

980
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 5: and you kind of get that, I'll know, here we go,

981
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,760
Speaker 5: this is gonna be another wild ride to the finished

982
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 5: type feeling. But the Norse had a great answer for

983
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 5: it on both ends of the floor. They extended their

984
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 5: lead right back to double digits and they closed it out.

985
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 5: So you know, they've been getting good contributions from from

986
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 5: some role guys like Kay Josher, who had fifteen rebounds

987
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 5: in last night's game, and he's had two made threes

988
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 5: in each of the last five games, at least two

989
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 5: mad threes in each of the last five games, and

990
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 5: I think that's been big for them. But the biggest

991
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 5: thing is just what we've been talking about all year.

992
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 4: With the defense.

993
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 5: It seems like they've finally been able to marry the

994
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 5: explosive scoring on the offensive end with shutting down the

995
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,959
Speaker 5: other team in key moments when when it's clutch time,

996
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 5: and they've been much better at that.

997
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 2: You mentioned the importance of last night's game, three more

998
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 2: games remaining. Talk about the Horizon League tournament itself and

999
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 2: why that seeding and where k you was trying to

1000
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 2: get to is so important.

1001
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you get a top five seed this year,

1002
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 5: you get to host a first round game, and you know,

1003
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 5: that's what MK used battling for right now, it's always

1004
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,240
Speaker 5: just big to get that opportunity to before you everyone

1005
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 5: goes to Indy for the semi finals and finals. And

1006
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 5: actually now this year there's an extra play in game

1007
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 5: on Sunday night for the two lowest seeded teams still

1008
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 5: in the tournament. So in theory, it would be like

1009
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 5: the four and five seed, if everything goes chalk, they

1010
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 5: will be playing on Sunday night before the semi finals

1011
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 5: for the honors to play the one seed there in

1012
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 5: the semis. So it's a big deal to at least

1013
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 5: have a good opportunity to win that first game and

1014
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 5: get the first one at home instead of going on

1015
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 5: the road. I mean, there's all types of scenarios still

1016
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 5: out there for MKU. It's so tightly bunched up from

1017
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 5: third all the way down to like seventh right now

1018
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 5: in the conference, just like a game and a half

1019
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 5: separating everybody, seemingly, so any every round of games for

1020
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 5: the league, it seems to jumble the rankings back up.

1021
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,760
Speaker 5: So there's still a lot of scenarios still in play,

1022
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 5: and KU I believe could still potentially go on the

1023
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 5: road to as far as Green Bay, or they could

1024
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 5: be hosting a first round game. So a lot still

1025
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 5: at stake in these final three games. And there's been

1026
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 5: a lot of parody in the league this year, so

1027
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 5: it should be entertaining.

1028
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 2: If you do go on the road to Green Bay.

1029
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 2: Do you think Doug Gottlie will be coaching in that

1030
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 2: game or facing another suspension?

1031
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 4: Good question. Hey, I'll say this.

1032
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 5: I'm glad Doug said it, like I'm glad someone at

1033
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 5: NK you didn't have to say it, because quite honestly,

1034
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 5: he's right. He's right.

1035
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 6: The officiating has been bad this year and his technical

1036
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 6: that he got, we have the audience like that that's

1037
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 6: been posted online now clear audio is nothing, nothing that

1038
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 6: would warrant a technical foul.

1039
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 5: And you know, it's a hard job to be an official,

1040
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 5: especially in this day and age. But the one thing

1041
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 5: that I would tell the Horizon League officials that they

1042
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,720
Speaker 5: should do a much better job of that you see

1043
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 5: at the higher level conferences is quit worrying so much about.

1044
00:51:58,400 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 4: Dealing with the coaches.

1045
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 5: You can't have rabbit ears, you can't go back and

1046
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 5: forth with them and argue and fight. You can't get

1047
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 5: sensitive and kee them up because they called you out

1048
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 5: or actually exposed you on a bad call. You just

1049
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 5: have to let that roll off your back a little

1050
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 5: bit more. And they seem to do a bad job

1051
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 5: with that part of it administering the game. So quite honestly, yes,

1052
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 5: Doug was probably a little too passionate calling out that

1053
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 5: the supervisor of officials for the league was a bold choice.

1054
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 5: Certainly dropping f bombs was a bold choice pounding the

1055
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 5: todium like that, But he wasn't wrong about any t

1056
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 5: He said, in fact, that it needed to be said.

1057
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 2: Three games remaining, their next game at Youngstown State, if

1058
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 2: they do secure that first round home game, is that

1059
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,280
Speaker 2: a game that potentially k you would even want Austin

1060
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 2: Elmore to attend at this point or since he's not

1061
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 2: been there, do you just want him to stay away.

1062
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 5: Austin Elmore has been a flag carrier for the North through.

1063
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 13: Has been here, he has been He's always.

1064
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 5: Going to be our guy. But it is I can't

1065
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 5: deny the fact that there were a lot of conversations

1066
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 5: last night about like where is audience?

1067
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 6: It's a big night.

1068
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 5: Did the stars were out. You've got no eggers sitting courtside.

1069
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,439
Speaker 5: Who's a noted ud alum u se fan. Yeah, and

1070
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 5: he's there.

1071
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 2: To as yesterday talking about one to go to a

1072
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 2: UC baseball game.

1073
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 3: I didn't say that yesterday. I said that this morning today. Yeah,

1074
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 3: I mean it is a part of a thing. Just

1075
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 3: promote the radio station that I worked for. I get it.

1076
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 3: So I mean, try to turn around on me all

1077
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 3: you can. I've been to plenty of Norse games. I mean,

1078
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 3: people forget I was the guy who was it was

1079
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 3: just me.

1080
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 5: The station last night.

1081
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 3: People forget it was it was just me standing outside

1082
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 3: the bathroom at Malett Hall interviewing John Brandon just a

1083
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 3: couple of years ago when I was in college. So

1084
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 3: you know, I've I've been through it, and I will

1085
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,280
Speaker 3: be back. I might be back sooner rather than later.

1086
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 3: But I appreciate that everybody is worried about.

1087
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 5: All I know is there's one home game left in

1088
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 5: the regular season. It's against Wright State. You know how

1089
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 5: we feel about that, Austin. So yeah, I'd love to

1090
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 5: have you.

1091
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 4: Now.

1092
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 3: Typically I go to that game every year. Sometimes I

1093
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 3: go up to the nuthouse, sometimes I go down to Truist,

1094
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 3: but I'm typically there.

1095
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 4: We'll see what happens.

1096
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 9: Wow.

1097
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 4: That needs that.

1098
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 3: Wow, this is unbelievable, So courtside again, thanks, Rick, appreciate that.

1099
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 4: I will find you a ticket. Let me put it

1100
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 4: that way, I will get you a ticket.

1101
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 2: Uh, Rick, Let me ask you about the Musketeers as well.

1102
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 2: I know you talked to me about this yesterday and

1103
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 2: another heartbreaking loss and the decision. You want to get

1104
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 2: the ball to Trey Carroll late, but do you want

1105
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 2: Trey Carroll being the one that's that's handling the ball.

1106
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 2: It's a hard situation because Trey Carroll has literally done

1107
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 2: everything that this team has needed and more this year.

1108
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 2: But at what point do you stop if you're a

1109
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 2: Xavier fan saying, man, they're playing well, they're just coming

1110
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,919
Speaker 2: up on the wrong side. Because I know you viewed

1111
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 2: this season a little bit differently Richard Patino's first year,

1112
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 2: how the roster came together. I'm not saying to throw

1113
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 2: away year, but you're learn a lot about this year.

1114
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 2: But at some point the close losses had to become

1115
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 2: a little frustrating for Xavier fans.

1116
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I'm I have no doubt that it gets

1117
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 5: hard to watch your team lose games in heartbreaking fashion,

1118
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 5: game after game. You know, the good things is at

1119
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 5: this point you probably are a little desensitized to it

1120
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 5: because you're not really playing for anything. You're kind of

1121
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 5: playing out the string on a season that's going nowhere,

1122
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 5: and you know, hopefully you're playing better basketball, which I

1123
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 5: do think they are, and maybe you can scare some

1124
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 5: teams in the Big East Tournament. The likelihood of them

1125
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 5: winning the biggest tournament seems not.

1126
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:36,919
Speaker 16: Good at all.

1127
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 5: So I just, yeah, I think it's like you're kind

1128
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 5: of just playing out the string more or less, and

1129
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 5: so I don't think these games are as heartbreaking because

1130
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 5: of that, but it is still hard to watch. That

1131
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 5: was an entertaining game. It was a lot of fun action.

1132
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 5: There were some big time shots being made on both sides.

1133
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 5: And you know that that Tray Harrol thing is tough

1134
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 5: because it's like both things can be true. That he

1135
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 5: cost you the game. You couldn't win with playing the

1136
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 5: way he did, with six turnovers and the big turnover

1137
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 5: at the end that everyone's talking about. At the same time,

1138
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 5: you're not in that game without Trey Carroll, and you

1139
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 5: don't have any of the success that you've had this

1140
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 5: year without Trey Carroll. So it's just the reality of

1141
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 5: having a roster that is in well enough constructed, you know,

1142
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 5: And like you said, it was an impossible situation for

1143
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 5: the coaching staff coming in that first year. They just

1144
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 5: don't have the firepower they need, especially in those late

1145
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 5: game situations. You'd like to have another playmaker that you

1146
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 5: could put the ball in their hands and say, go

1147
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 5: do something for us, or create something to set a

1148
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 5: guy like Trey Carroll up more instead of having to

1149
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 5: put it all on his shoulders. But yeah, it's it's

1150
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 5: definitely been a frustrating season. At the same time, it

1151
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 5: was a fun game to watch if you're at the Centa.

1152
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 2: Center, and there's been a lot of those. There's been

1153
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 2: a lot of fun games. They've just unfortunately come out

1154
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 2: on the wrong side of too many of them, and

1155
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 2: that to me, this is the most interesting part. Now

1156
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 2: you mentioned kind of playing out the string. Before this

1157
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 2: era of college basketball, there's a lot you're playing for retention.

1158
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 2: You know what players are going to develop and make

1159
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 2: a difference next year. You got five games remaining before

1160
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 2: the Big East Tournament, but you're going to have so

1161
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 2: much roster turnover as well. Trey Carroll's not going to

1162
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 2: be back. What do you use the last five for

1163
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 2: if you're a coach in today's world? Because Richard Patino

1164
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 2: did not want to talk about the transfer portal after

1165
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 2: the Villanova loss. He did not want to talk about

1166
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 2: anything except this team. How difficult does that become when

1167
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 2: you're playing out the stretch with a lot of guys

1168
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 2: that aren't going to be back next year.

1169
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, don't I know? And I was the one who

1170
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 5: asked him about the bald Well.

1171
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 3: For me, I thought it was one of your better questions.

1172
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 4: Hey, thank you.

1173
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 5: Someone did that and that makes one of us, you know,

1174
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 5: I agree with you, Tony. It is a tough situation

1175
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 5: now because as much as you want to recite the

1176
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 5: cliches of like, yeah, build towards next year, and and

1177
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 5: in theory, they did build this roster with the idea

1178
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 5: that like, hey, we're overpaying maybe some younger guys weren't

1179
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 5: quite ready with the hope that they're going to develop

1180
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 5: and will be able to retain them and build some

1181
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 5: continuity going into our second year.

1182
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 16: As a staff.

1183
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 5: But at the same time, when you're in this current era,

1184
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 5: all of those guys could walk after this year if

1185
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 5: they want to. There's no real contract or anything that

1186
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 5: can hold them in place at this point. And even

1187
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 5: if if that's not the case, based on what's happened

1188
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 5: so far this year, how many of those guys do

1189
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 5: you feel like are real impact players for next season?

1190
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 5: I guess that's what it really comes down to. And

1191
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 5: I know five games has been a lot of time,

1192
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 5: but you have started to see some flashes from a

1193
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 5: guy like Anthony Robinson. They were playing pop Enji a

1194
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 5: lot of those backup center minutes. Now those minutes have

1195
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 5: gone to Anthony Robinson down the stretch. Here is he

1196
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 5: going to show enough down the stretch that you're you

1197
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 5: feel good about bringing him back next year, that you

1198
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 5: feel good about his market value and how much he

1199
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 5: should cost you going in next year. I think that's

1200
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 5: probably what it is more than anything. Is you are

1201
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 5: evaluating for how much you want to pay the guys

1202
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,439
Speaker 5: that you're considering keeping, and and then you go into

1203
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 5: negotiation time with their agent after the season ends.

1204
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 2: You know what I find interesting? Even though he downplayed

1205
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 2: the question, you kind of have to already be looking

1206
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 2: at the portal. You have to already be doing your research.

1207
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 2: Everyone is doing it at this point. But what I

1208
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 2: respect is the fact that Richard Patino said, while I

1209
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 2: respect the question, I'm not there yet. How would you

1210
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 2: have responded if maybe Richard Patino took more of a

1211
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 2: Mick Cronin approach to your question.

1212
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 4: Well, I wouldn't have raised my voice, that's for sure.

1213
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 2: Would you want to be known as the worst question

1214
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 2: that anyone's ever asked a coach?

1215
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I might be, might be based on

1216
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 5: the way I was responded to who those But yeah,

1217
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 5: I think sometimes your job is to ask stupid questions.

1218
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 5: As a journalists, people get like way too worked up

1219
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 5: in the ego of coaches and protecting them in these

1220
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 5: situations and stuff like that. And don't get me wrong,

1221
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 5: there are some really bad press conferences. We have to

1222
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 5: sit through some really dumb questions being asked. But sometimes

1223
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 5: the job that we're in is to get the answer

1224
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 5: to the stupid question that the fans.

1225
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 6: Want to know.

1226
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 5: You know, it's not we We sometimes know it's not

1227
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 5: the best question in the world, but like it's what

1228
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 5: the storyline is for the fan base at that time,

1229
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 5: and so you have to ask it and then. Quite honestly,

1230
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 5: the reason I asked Richard Patino on that night is

1231
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 5: because the past two coaches shows that he's done on

1232
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 5: the radio, he's talked about his staff is already having

1233
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 5: meetings talking about the portal and evaluating guys and figuring

1234
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 5: out what they're going to do. I found that to

1235
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 5: be interesting, So I was hoping maybe he would expand

1236
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 5: upon that after another close loss, because I'm sitting there

1237
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 5: looking at us, like, man, after all those close losses,

1238
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 5: I'd be making a laundry list of things that like,

1239
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 5: we ain't going to go in the next year without

1240
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 5: a playmaker, ain't going to go in the next year

1241
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 5: without a center, and you know what I mean, Like

1242
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 5: I'd be just listing off the things that that we're

1243
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 5: going to prioritize in the portal. But I certainly understand

1244
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 5: that not wanting to throw your guys under the bus

1245
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 5: or feel like you're moving on after a tight game

1246
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 5: like that?

1247
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 4: Awesome?

1248
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 2: Did that sound to you like Rick was raising his

1249
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 2: voice a little bit there, just a little bit. Everybody

1250
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 2: heard it, Did you hear that?

1251
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 3: We alle this is a motion we all heard, Thank you.

1252
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 4: I'd It's not good for me.

1253
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 2: I know it's early in the process still, but we

1254
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 2: always talk about expectations and how this year was perceived

1255
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 2: by a lot of Xavier fans and those covering the team.

1256
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 2: How quickly and how vastly different did those expectations change

1257
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 2: now going into year number two for Richard Patino, Oh.

1258
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 4: It'll be huge.

1259
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,439
Speaker 5: I mean, there's just no way, especially with the fan

1260
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 5: base in this era.

1261
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's reality.

1262
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 5: I don't know if they can be guaranteed to just

1263
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 5: be able to turn this around in two years when

1264
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 5: you're getting an entire roster, and by the way, like

1265
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 5: you're in the Big East where you didn't necessarily have

1266
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 5: the big best resources anyways, so it was always going

1267
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 5: to be an uphill climb to get back towards the

1268
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 5: top of the Big East and everything after a few

1269
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 5: years where you were there with Chris mac But I

1270
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 5: think that it's going to be a really interesting offseason

1271
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 5: and year two with the Xavier fan base, because that

1272
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 5: expectation word is a fun one. This year, they were

1273
01:01:58,160 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 5: willing to let things slide.

1274
01:01:59,400 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 6: And they are.

1275
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,479
Speaker 5: The record is what it is. But you're absolutely right, Tony,

1276
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 5: it's going to be completely different next year and they

1277
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 5: won't have any understanding or sympathy for the situation anymore.

1278
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 5: And that's where we'll see where this thing goes from there.

1279
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 2: And you mentioned his radio show. I thought he was

1280
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 2: very open on his radio show recently talking about kind

1281
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 2: of the four pillars of hey, we need more money.

1282
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 2: You know a lot of coaches and then people think it,

1283
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 2: here's a coach in year one, going through a season

1284
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 2: where they have five wins right now in the Big East,

1285
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 2: but very openly talking about, hey, if we want to

1286
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 2: turn this around, this is kind of the prerequisite now

1287
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 2: of what's needed going forward.

1288
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, the one thing that is really enjoyable about dealing

1289
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 5: with Richard Patino and hearing him talk is he is

1290
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 5: very straightforward and honest about that type of stuff. He

1291
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 5: doesn't put any fluff around it or sugar coated to

1292
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 5: make you feel better about it. And let's face it,

1293
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 5: a lot of fans don't want to hear that, especially

1294
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 5: in a year where you're losing a lot of games.

1295
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 5: They don't want to hear you continually asking them for money.

1296
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 5: But he says like, this is the reality, and he's right, like,

1297
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 5: you're going to have to pay for the best roster

1298
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 5: if you want to compete, and that doesn't mean you

1299
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 5: have to be Kentucky and spend twenty two million, but

1300
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 5: you are going to have to be competitive with the

1301
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 5: top teams at the high major level if you want

1302
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 5: to want to be at that spot. And this past

1303
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 5: year is Zavier clearly wasn't that, and there are a

1304
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 5: lot of reasons for that. It was a very unique

1305
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Speaker 5: year in the transfer portal that will never happen again

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Speaker 5: because of the way the rules change when it went

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Speaker 5: from the nil collectives paying them to the schools paying them,

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01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 5: and that kind of overlap situation that happened before July first.

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Speaker 5: We don't have to get back into all of that,

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Speaker 5: but that's what really set this season up, in addition

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Speaker 5: to the coaching change for Xavier. So it was a

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Speaker 5: perfect storm of events. But you won't have that to

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Speaker 5: fall back on in your two I.

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Speaker 2: Would be remiss not to ask you, and I know

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Speaker 2: it's not NKU or Xavier related, but the topic in

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Speaker 2: college basketball at least today has been Darren Peterson and

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Speaker 2: what he and how he has approached this season with Kansas,

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Speaker 2: and it's now a national conversation that's happening. Rick quite frankly,

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Speaker 2: I for one think Bill self needs to send a

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Speaker 2: message and sit Darren Peterson down for at least one game,

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Speaker 2: preferably the game on Saturday, and then get him ready

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Speaker 2: for Houston. With that being said, though, how do you

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Speaker 2: view is this kind of the landscape that is because

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01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 2: Cooper Flagg didn't sit out games last year, Debonsa's not

1325
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 2: sitting out games this year. Is this just a unique

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Speaker 2: situation with Darren Peterson or do you view this as

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Speaker 2: more of a problem going forward for college hoops?

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Speaker 5: Darren Pearson's a loser, Like who in the world.

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01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 4: Doesn't think that right now?

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Speaker 5: Who is watching what's playing out and not thinking Darren

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Speaker 5: Peterson is a bad teammate yep. A selfish guy, a

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01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 5: guy who's only about himself, Like he is not helping himself.

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Speaker 4: In any way by doing this.

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Speaker 5: I don't understand the long term play by Darren Peterson.

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Speaker 5: If any now he's so talented, someone will still take

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01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 5: a chance on him. He can still have a great career.

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying anything like that, but if anything, this

1338
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 5: whole college season has done nothing but hurt his reputation

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Speaker 5: and potentially hurt his stock as a prospect, So I

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01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 5: don't understand what he's doing at all. On the flip side,

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01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 5: I don't feel bad for Bill self at all. This

1342
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 5: has been one of the dummiest coaches for years and years,

1343
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 5: paying everybody off, getting the best roster lifted, right, Like,

1344
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 5: who's bothered by the fact that he has to deal

1345
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 5: with the prima donna loser? Who's who's selfishing and create

1346
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:17,919
Speaker 5: during his team? And by the way, there's still gonna

1347
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 5: be like a two seed in the ENC.

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Speaker 2: Would you bench him ahead of Saturday's game? Would you

1349
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Speaker 2: bench him to send a message?

1350
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 6: Again?

1351
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 3: Would you bench him Saturday to send a message for

1352
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 3: your sake?

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01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 4: Sure? Thank you?

1354
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 3: Thank you? Don't that's all I need?

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Speaker 4: Let him keep it within fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Rick, I, I was just say I appreciate everything except

1357
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 2: that last little jab there.

1358
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Speaker 3: Glad to see I'm not the only one getting a jab.

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Speaker 2: NK you Horizon League tournaments starts as early as March second.

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01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 2: A lot still going on with the Xavier Musketeers. How

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01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 2: can folks follow along with uh? With everything you have

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01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 2: going on with the college basketball season, including your unbelievable

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01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 2: calls next to Jim Couch with NKU basketball.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, find me on face stock or whatever. I just

1365
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 5: have to go back to all Do you just make

1366
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 5: a vaccination joke?

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01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 3: No? No, I didn't.

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01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 5: You got the jab.

1369
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 4: I was like, what are you talking?

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Speaker 3: Gets your mind out of the gunner, dude, that's not

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Speaker 3: what I'm talking about.

1372
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Speaker 5: I was out of the gutter.

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Speaker 4: I would think about COVID.

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01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 5: I just thought like, what a what a reference. We're

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Speaker 5: going back to twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, that's not that. It's not that's not true.

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Speaker 5: All right, Well, good luck with your jab boys on Facebook.

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01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 3: Check out for Rick on Facebook.

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Speaker 2: Rick, thanks a lot, Thanks Rick, the reverend, the reverend,

1380
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 2: he was ready to go today. I always think last night,

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01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 2: I always realized that, you know, we're we're weeks removed

1382
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 2: from Darren Horn kind of going to bat for you,

1383
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 2: according to Rick, And now that's changing apparently.

1384
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 3: I don't think that anybody's gone to bat for me.

1385
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 13: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that I think about it. Who's who's

1387
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 3: it's been.

1388
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 2: I don't who's the two and four hole hitter around

1389
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 2: you in the three hole outside of protecting you, outside.

1390
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 3: Of my parents and my closest friends. I don't know

1391
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 3: if if anyone has gone to bat for me anytime recently.

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01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 2: Browen's off that list. Now, I didn't realize mos qurt

1393
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Speaker 2: sided good stuff. Talkbacks next ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sporkstation lineup.

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Speaker 4: That's what I said, Hey Alexa, who got cut in

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Speaker 4: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: It's that time for talkbacks.

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Speaker 19: Press the microphone and record your message for Austin in tone.

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01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 19: Please keep it clean and don't be mean that a sprinkle, sprinkle,

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Speaker 19: drip drip.

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Speaker 4: It's that time for talkbacks.

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Speaker 19: It's our favorite tarter since E three sixty. So Austin buddy,

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Speaker 19: play those talkbacks on your screen and please ride out

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Speaker 19: to sabotage.

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Speaker 2: The Thursday edition of talkbacks. You are listening on ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: Let's get to what we have today. It's taking its

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01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 3: sweet time today. Sometimes it does, you know, Sometimes in

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01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 3: life you just gotta wait patience. I was once told

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Speaker 3: as a virtue.

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Speaker 4: Happy Thursday, everybody.

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Speaker 20: James Rapine, I like you, but Jeremiah love it ten.

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Speaker 4: That's a big no use for me, big jim Uso

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Speaker 4: reference there.

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Speaker 20: I think the older skill positioned person I would consider there.

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Speaker 20: If there's no downs, no Bay no Bailey, no Mons

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Speaker 20: or life in the Fast Lady would have to be

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01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:31,879
Speaker 20: Otti's boy tape from his Ohio state.

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Speaker 3: Wide receiver yep.

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Speaker 4: In Austin.

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Speaker 7: Watched the Boy.

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Speaker 17: Strong.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's right, Talkbacker.

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01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 4: I'm back and better than ever.

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Speaker 21: I can run at least one sixtieth of a mile

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01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 21: per hour out No.

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Speaker 3: Boy Ken, Okay, Ken, glad you're recovering. I'm glad you're back.

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Speaker 22: Since you guys know the NBA much better than I do.

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01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 22: Give me a comparison between this kid from Kansas and

1429
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 22: Zion Williamson. When Zion was a duke, where people questioning

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01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 22: his love of playing the game, or since he's been

1431
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 22: in the NBA, is he just been hurt all the

1432
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 22: time and not sitting on the bench and just collecting paychecks.

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Speaker 2: I think it's been more so the injuries Zion has taken. Yeah,

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01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 2: Zion was a force in college, the the Peterson side

1435
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 2: of things. Like I think Skrzyzewski was always on the

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01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 2: same page as Zion. Like there's been multiple times this

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01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 2: year where like Bill self doesn't have an answer, or

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01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 2: you've seen the frustration or what was it the staffer

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01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 2: sitting courtside that shared the message about what was going

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01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 2: on with Peterson before the game. Yeah, you didn't see

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01:09:58,280 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 2: all that was zion.

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01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 23: Yeah, oh, disregard the first one norse up water resistant granted, Yes,

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01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 23: Peterson for Kansas East seven narcissistic. Just play some some

1444
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:26,799
Speaker 23: brigging basketball. Sad about the topping kid. Really excited about

1445
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 23: US hockey. That's definitely my favorite part of the Winter Olympics.

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01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, just an unbelievable finish to both Canada and Ually guys.

1447
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 24: Really cool adulting day out in the wildwall West out here,

1448
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 24: weather out in the wildwall West is pretty good and adulting,

1449
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 24: you know. I mean, let's face it, we all should

1450
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 24: be adults. Great show as usual. I know you haven't

1451
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,680
Speaker 24: heard me in a while. I've been trying to just

1452
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 24: listen in and thank everybody for the support, oh supporting.

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01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 24: Welcome back back, matters guy.

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01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 7: Hello, this is former President Ronald Reagan. Well, I think

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01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 7: Darren Peterson of Kansas is adulting in a wild wild

1456
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 7: West world. You see, he's simply working on his NBA

1457
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 7: load management skills, and frankly, Bill's self should be proud

1458
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 7: of this. By the way, what did they call it

1459
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 7: before there was a wild wild West? Was it the

1460
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 7: mild mild West? When would you consider what Mick Cronin

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01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 7: and Doug Gottley did during their press conferences as adulting,

1462
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 7: kidding or babying?

1463
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 4: See what you do?

1464
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 3: People are so predicted. You see what you do?

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01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 2: You you throw one thing out there and you know

1466
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 2: it's going to come back. Adulting in wild wild West

1467
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 2: will be the theme of talkbacks today.

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01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 21: Who is that clown you had on yesterday who suggested

1469
01:11:57,080 --> 01:12:02,719
Speaker 21: the Bengals take a running back in the round? If anything,

1470
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 21: we need a kicker. Let's get a guy in there

1471
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 21: who doesn't cost us games. You know what I'm saying.

1472
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 21: McPherson reminds me of me. I also peeked four years ago.

1473
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 21: I've been trending downward ever since.

1474
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Speaker 17: Now.

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01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 3: McPherson had a much better season.

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Speaker 25: where do you want to be?

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Speaker 3: You?

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Speaker 16: I'm Eddie Zelick with traffic.

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Speaker 2: I wonder edy go in here? Someone quite some time

1485
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 2: as Doug Gottlieb. Yeah, well that's now that he's got

1486
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 2: a suspension coming.

1487
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:01,599
Speaker 3: Up, design that we haven't heard from him.

1488
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 10: Just keep on disrespecting college basketball, ripping the city out here,

1489
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 10: Sonny IDD's on?

1490
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 4: What up? Tony?

1491
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 9: What up?

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01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 3: Buddy Man, Kansas, We got a problem with your player.

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01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 7: Bro.

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01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 3: You can't pull yourself out the game.

1495
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 4: Light that think you all that?

1496
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 10: If I was on that team, Yo, we fighting in

1497
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 10: locker rule. I don't know who do think he is,

1498
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 10: but you ain't all that, dude. Come on, man, you

1499
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 10: ain't all that. Good win by Anku And is it

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01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 10: baseball seasy yet? Because I'm so ready for the Reds

1501
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 10: and uh oh yeah man, Texas Tech topping kid towards

1502
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 10: a cl What a big blow to these things.

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01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 3: They were one of I think.

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01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 2: I think there's legitimately ten to twelve teams that I

1505
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 2: think can cut down the nets. They are not one

1506
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:38,679
Speaker 2: of them anymore.

1507
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,599
Speaker 4: It's the Lord. I gotta start bench cut right.

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01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:51,560
Speaker 2: Landman, the Lincoln Lawyer, Animal Kingdom.

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01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 3: Hand up.

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01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 2: I've only seen the Lincoln Lawyer. I've heard a lot

1511
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,680
Speaker 2: about land Man, I've not seen it yet. So the

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01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 2: only one I could talk to is lincol Lawyer, which

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01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:04,759
Speaker 2: I think is fantastic. I saw one, maybe two episodes

1514
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 2: of Lincoln Lawyer. I haven't seen any of the others.

1515
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 2: So I guess I'll start that the car anywhere.

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Speaker 26: I think your fellers on actually that you can get

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01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 26: relationship and vies, and that's kind of a good idea.

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01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 26: I don't really know the dock and field very much,

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01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:23,599
Speaker 26: and I really don't want to right there. I mean,

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01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 26: you know, I get to the park, I bet enough

1521
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:28,520
Speaker 26: talking relationship for a little over forty.

1522
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 4: Years and say for a better or worse, and I've

1523
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 4: got more worse and I've got better. I don't know.

1524
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 4: I got that. Just a life of a Bengal than

1525
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:36,799
Speaker 4: a red Man.

1526
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 2: All right, man, I think that sums up the life

1527
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 2: of a Cincinnati sports fan pretty well.

1528
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 27: Yeah, Me and my brother Scott's out of court side

1529
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 27: NKU sees courtesy of our nephew Shannon Minor. Oh, the

1530
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:54,720
Speaker 27: great mo Eggar was also there. Wow, go ahead, a

1531
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 27: great rip roaring time talking to Rick roaring after the game,

1532
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 27: hoping to popular Moore show up nothing. Man, You sure

1533
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 27: he's really a fan?

1534
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 4: You know?

1535
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 2: I actually saw the Great Shannon Minor at the last

1536
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 2: UC basketball game man word is circulating, ku legend, word

1537
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 2: of circulating.

1538
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 28: Audie signing bonus. It's baked from the ville since he

1539
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 28: came to camp all swollen up. A new nickname is

1540
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 28: gonna be Swelly de la Cruz. Hey, just a heads up.

1541
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 28: Six games in for both teams, the Reds and the

1542
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 28: Pirates is April, the first April Fool's Day, twelve forty pm.

1543
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 28: Tilt between Hunter Green and Tough scenes Will Schimes.

1544
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:50,799
Speaker 4: How about that? How about that businessman special?

1545
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 29: Good morning fellas, Brian from La. I just wanted to

1546
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 29: check in, tell you how I'm feeling. I feel like

1547
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 29: I'm Tony Pike, honestly. One, it's raining here in La

1548
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 29: so it feels like I'm in Cincinnati, and it's been

1549
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 29: raining all week. So no five mile runs from me outside. However,

1550
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 29: still been getting on the treadmill. Also, I'm babysitting today

1551
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 29: my own child. She's three months babysitting my own child,

1552
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 29: Tony Pike.

1553
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 3: Congratulations, Hope the babysitting is going well. Nothing wrong with that.

1554
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 5: The word of the day narcissistic.

1555
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 4: Could you use that in a sentence please? Oh sweet?

1556
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 3: Talkback matters guy. That was a big one there miss

1557
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 3: talkback matters. Guy.

1558
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:49,560
Speaker 14: Wow, I'm not a basketball fan by any stretch of

1559
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 14: the imagination, and I already know the answer to this,

1560
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 14: but I'm gonna ask it anyway. Why doesn't Kansas just

1561
01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 14: cut that kid?

1562
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:04,680
Speaker 2: Well, he's making one, you there are donors involved with

1563
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 2: the money that he's getting. And Two, as much as

1564
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 2: you hate to say it, he is, if not the best,

1565
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:13,560
Speaker 2: one of the few best players in college basketball. And

1566
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 2: I at this point like what I find most interesting

1567
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 2: now going forward Austin is is that the same way

1568
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:24,759
Speaker 2: he approaches March Madness? Or does he Does he approach

1569
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 2: March Madness differently? Does he care about March Madness more

1570
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:32,599
Speaker 2: so than the regular season? I get it, last one,

1571
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,560
Speaker 2: But I don't think I would cut him. No, they

1572
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 2: want to, They won't be cutting.

1573
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna get cut. Tony just wants

1574
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 3: some bench because they play.

1575
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 2: You see, now, it's not it's not what it's about, intagrity,

1576
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 2: The sport here to be upheld.

1577
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, if that case, then you should be cut.

1578
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 3: Why don't you go on a stand, take a stand

1579
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 3: and say he should be cut.

1580
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 2: I don't think he needs to be cut. I think

1581
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 2: a message needs to be sent that you move on

1582
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 2: and maybe you sit him down for a game and

1583
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 2: see if that can help you get through to him.

1584
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 2: That's where I would start with things, sure, and then

1585
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 2: if it progresses, then go ahead and you can cut him.

1586
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 2: But I'd started a game and see if that gets

1587
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,639
Speaker 2: through to him. Do you like, honestly, do you think

1588
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:20,720
Speaker 2: he One of my question is is it him or

1589
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 2: is it the advisement of family or an agent, Because hey,

1590
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 2: you have all of this now, is it the advisement

1591
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:28,839
Speaker 2: of an agent or is this his stance?

1592
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 3: It's impossible for me to answer that question right.

1593
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:34,679
Speaker 2: But I don't know him, but I think everyone everyone

1594
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 2: that's going in directly at him, I would assume that

1595
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 2: there's an agent in his ear or a family member.

1596
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 3: It's a lot different. And also, you know, the NBA

1597
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 3: money is ridiculous, and if you can get to the NBA,

1598
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 3: that's a that you'll be all right, correct and that

1599
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:58,680
Speaker 3: is the ultimate goal. But I think I think a

1600
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 3: lot of people got to keep in. Players don't play

1601
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 3: college basketball because they like the school or because they

1602
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 3: want to get a degree. They play college basketball because

1603
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:14,640
Speaker 3: they want to go to the NBA, but.

1604
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 2: I think the top tier, there is a way in

1605
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 2: which you are built that when that competitive nature starts happening,

1606
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 2: you want to go win. Yeah, And I think I

1607
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 2: think that's the difference in Peterson that you're seeing as

1608
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 2: opposed to as I mentioned, Cooper Flag. Cooper Flag was

1609
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:40,680
Speaker 2: going to be the number one pick regardless. He went

1610
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:44,600
Speaker 2: out every single game and dominated last night. This was

1611
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:48,679
Speaker 2: a quote from Scott Van Pelt after the game had happened.

1612
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 2: He said, when the presumed number one player sits out

1613
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:53,679
Speaker 2: a home game against undefeated Arizona with the flu, after

1614
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 2: having all these questions and managing minutes throughout the season

1615
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:59,559
Speaker 2: and other issues, it makes people wonder not about his talent,

1616
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 2: but about those intangibles that can't be measured. No one

1617
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 2: is questioning Peterson as a player, but you are wired

1618
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 2: differently if you're a competitor, or you have that urge

1619
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 2: to be a champion, to be the best at what

1620
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 2: you do, and those types of players, regardless of it's

1621
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:22,839
Speaker 2: high school or college or the NBA, when the game starts,

1622
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 2: the only thing that matters to that player is winning

1623
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 2: the game. And that is the disconnect I think you

1624
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 2: see from a DEBONSTA. You think of Kingston Flemings right

1625
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 2: now for Houston, what Cooper Flagg did last year. Those

1626
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 2: guys were playing thirty thirty five minutes a game because

1627
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:42,600
Speaker 2: at the core of it, their competitive nature was that

1628
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 2: they want to be the best, but they also want

1629
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 2: to win. And I think that's the biggest disconnect, and

1630
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 2: I think that's why so many people are taking note

1631
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 2: or have an issue with what Darren Peterson is doing.

1632
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 2: We'll take a break, we'll come back. Are we going

1633
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,160
Speaker 2: one segment or two to finish out the hour. We'll

1634
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 2: do two segments to finish out our number two on

1635
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:06,680
Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Keegan Nickoson will join

1636
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 2: us as well at two o'clock on the Home of

1637
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 2: the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1638
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 11: You've welcome back since e three sixty.

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01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:31,720
Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati's Sports Station. Phone lines open five, one, three, seven,

1640
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:34,759
Speaker 2: four nine, fifteen thirty. We will talk to Keegan nickoson

1641
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 2: a Bearcat Journal dot Com at two o'clock. We've got

1642
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 2: two segments to get in here Austin. The Seattle Seahawks

1643
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:42,759
Speaker 2: officially up for sale.

1644
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 13: Yes they are.

1645
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 2: They are selling the Seattle Seahawks. That being I believe

1646
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 2: Microsoft co founder Paul Allen is selling the Seattle Seahawks

1647
01:21:54,400 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 2: and DraftKings. Threw down a list of the price that

1648
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 2: was paid for each of the NFL franchises at the

1649
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 2: time of their last sale. This is pretty incredible to

1650
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 2: look at.

1651
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 20: Now.

1652
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 2: The Bengals Austin were bought for eight million dollars in

1653
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty seven. Eight million dollars. You go on the

1654
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,879
Speaker 2: other side of this. In twenty twenty three, the Washington

1655
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:23,600
Speaker 2: Commanders were bought for six point zh five billion with

1656
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:26,679
Speaker 2: a b dollars. Listen to some of these other sales.

1657
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:30,680
Speaker 2: Nineteen thirty two, the Arizona Cardinals were bought for fifty grand.

1658
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:32,680
Speaker 4: To one.

1659
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:34,560
Speaker 3: Nineteen twenty. You know what it took to buy the

1660
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 3: Chicago Bears. I know this, answers. It's not very much money.

1661
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:44,760
Speaker 3: One hundred dollars. Yeah, it was like one hundred bucks.

1662
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:48,719
Speaker 2: And it ranges the bills in twenty fourteen one point

1663
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:52,719
Speaker 2: four billion dollars. But some of these smaller numbers. Nineteen

1664
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:55,640
Speaker 2: twenty five, the New York Giants, they were bought for

1665
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 2: five hundred dollars the Pittsburgh Steelers in nineteen thirty three

1666
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 2: twenty five one hundred dollars, the Rams twenty ten, seven

1667
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:08,560
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million dollars. But it's just incredible to

1668
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 2: see those time stamps and what you could have done

1669
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 2: to buy an NFL franchise, an NFL organization compared to

1670
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:22,560
Speaker 2: where it is now. Are there any reports of what

1671
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 2: they're expecting Seattle to get in this sale? I mean,

1672
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 2: it doesn't help they're coming off a Super Bowl championship.

1673
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 3: No, I haven't seen what they are expected.

1674
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 2: I mean that would be incredible. I mean that's incredible

1675
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 2: some of these numbers and just how high that can

1676
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 2: go billions of dollars. Of course, the one NFL franchise

1677
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 2: that has never been for sale would be the Green

1678
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 2: Bay Packers. Other than that, that's quite a hefty list,

1679
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,680
Speaker 2: and that's a lot a lot. If the Commanders were

1680
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:57,720
Speaker 2: sold for six billion in twenty twenty three, do you

1681
01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 2: think the Seahawks can go for a to ten?

1682
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 3: I would say they're probably right around what would the

1683
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 3: Bengals get six six and a half to seven seven

1684
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 3: and a half. I think the Bengals, the last time

1685
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 3: Forbes released it were at like four and a half

1686
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 3: almost five whole billion.

1687
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1688
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:23,360
Speaker 2: As of earlier this month, industry experts projected the value

1689
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 2: between seven and nine billion for the Seattle Seahawks, some

1690
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 2: projections even reaching nine to ten billion dollars. That, of course,

1691
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 2: would surpass the record set by the Washington Commanders of

1692
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 2: six billion dollars. Incredible, incredible stuff, the amount of money

1693
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 2: that is thrown around at that level. Let's take one

1694
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 2: final break this hour. Kegan Nickoson will join us at

1695
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 2: two o'clock. We'll check in one more time and hour

1696
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 2: number two next on ESPN fifteen to thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1697
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 4: Line, I gotta have some fun tonight.

1698
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 2: Welcome back since he three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

1699
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:14,719
Speaker 2: Sports Station.

1700
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 9: You know.

1701
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 2: In hearing that it's it's not directly related, but I

1702
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 2: got an updated message yesterday Austin. You'll never guess from

1703
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 2: who it has to do with music on this show.

1704
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:28,080
Speaker 2: Surely it's not our guy Jeff Henry.

1705
01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 3: It was wow, our.

1706
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 2: Guy Jeff Henry. Now he claims that the latest album

1707
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 2: is done in this message. He claims that it's done

1708
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:43,559
Speaker 2: in this message.

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01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 9: Now.

1710
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:48,760
Speaker 2: In the message, he also went into detail that I

1711
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:52,519
Speaker 2: think like the digital platforms aren't hitting yet, but did

1712
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:55,560
Speaker 2: say that he would be sending along like one of

1713
01:25:55,640 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 2: the CDs to get an early early tryout on. So

1714
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 2: we'll see if it happens. But as of right now,

1715
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 2: I think this is like three years in the works.

1716
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 2: As of right now, there is new music coming out

1717
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:10,719
Speaker 2: from Jeff Henry. We'll see if he actually happens.

1718
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:11,360
Speaker 11: Good for Jeff.

1719
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:13,600
Speaker 2: I'm happy that he finally did it. I'm happy that

1720
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 2: it took three years and a lot of I'm sure blood,

1721
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:20,760
Speaker 2: sweat and tears. Thirty five days to opening day. You

1722
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:25,719
Speaker 2: mentioned earlier on yesterday you teased the great Alejo Lopez

1723
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 2: that wore the number thirty five. Yeah, who's the greatest

1724
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:31,960
Speaker 2: number thirty five in Red's history? And how is it

1725
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 2: not Don gall It. I don't know that it would

1726
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:43,639
Speaker 2: be anybody but him, Randy Saint Clair, Geronimo Barroa, what'd

1727
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 2: you call me? Geronimo Baroa nineteen ninety two, might be

1728
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 2: tough to go against Geronimo.

1729
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 3: I guess Gilly Campbell. They made a song, but I said,

1730
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:57,760
Speaker 3: say Girani.

1731
01:26:57,400 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 2: Mo, sayana mo. Ernie Lombardi, is that who the trophy

1732
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 2: is named? After h noneteen thirty eight, he rocked it.

1733
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 3: Just looking at this list, Ernie Lombardi is the only

1734
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 3: one that has a statue outside of Great American Ballpark,

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01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:16,559
Speaker 3: So does that put him at the field? Like idiot,

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01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 3: you would probably have to go with him. I mean,

1737
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:20,600
Speaker 3: Frank Pass store.

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01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 2: Man Beast it is now tomorrow might be a little

1739
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 2: bit of a challenge, just early indications, Dream Weaver, Homer Bailey,

1740
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 2: Ryan Dempster, don't who are you doing?

1741
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:38,800
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of greats. Don't empty the clip.

1742
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:42,920
Speaker 3: This clip's not empty. That's just the top. That's a

1743
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 3: top show. What about Raoul Sanchez in nineteen sixty he

1744
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:50,240
Speaker 3: was number thirty five? Johnny Clipstein, I think a lot

1745
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:54,559
Speaker 3: of listeners will remember Johnny. What about Harry Perkowski? Any

1746
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 3: relation to Mike was Awski?

1747
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 2: How many years did Geronimo Barroa like? He played for

1748
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 2: the Reds for one year and for whatever reason, maybe

1749
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:07,840
Speaker 2: it was the age I was at, or maybe it

1750
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 2: was just the name. I remember him as a Cincinnati

1751
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 2: Red I don't. He played in thirteen games, and somehow

1752
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 2: I remember Geronimo Barroa. It's nice, unbelievable. It's another name

1753
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 2: I just like saying Geronimo Barroa. Let's go to our

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01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 2: three Kegan Nickoson will kick things off from Bearcat Journal

1755
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Speaker 2: dot Com. When we return on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:30,760
Speaker 2: Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: Would the headlines ear this is Tony Pike Cincy three

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01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:42,559
Speaker 1: sixty about Cincinnati. From Cincinnati. This is ESPN fifteen thirty

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01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:44,679
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Sports Station.

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01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:51,639
Speaker 2: Welcome back, Cincy three to sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:54,320
Speaker 2: Sports Station. As we embark on the third and final

1762
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:57,600
Speaker 2: hour of the Thursday edition here, let's let's do so

1763
01:28:57,800 --> 01:28:59,679
Speaker 2: with a guest that joins us each and every Thursday

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01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 2: right here at this time slot. Our friend from Bearcat

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01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:04,960
Speaker 2: Journal dot com, Keegan Nickoson, joins us right now.

1766
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 3: Keegan, what's going on?

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Speaker 16: Nothing much, Tony?

1768
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 4: How are you well?

1769
01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 3: It's been a week.

1770
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 2: We have a Bearcat basketball team winners of three straight games,

1771
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:17,639
Speaker 2: and we also have seen early returns on bishoo ball,

1772
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 2: starting with a win at Auburn. Let's start real quick

1773
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 2: on the baseball team. Can you put into perspective how

1774
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:26,640
Speaker 2: big of a win that is early on in the

1775
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:28,599
Speaker 2: baseball season to go on the road to a top

1776
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 2: ten team in the country and get a win in

1777
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 2: dominating fashion like US was able to do.

1778
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:38,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think when people remember that first year when

1779
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 4: they were on the bubble outside looking in a woman

1780
01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:45,920
Speaker 4: like what they got over Auburn would have been a.

1781
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 16: Huge help and possibly getting them to.

1782
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 4: The NCAA tournament. So that's just huge for a team

1783
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:55,719
Speaker 4: that is probably going to be close to the bubble

1784
01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 4: and also huge for a team that needed some momentum

1785
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 4: to kind of proved to the country and maybe even

1786
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:07,200
Speaker 4: prove to themselves that you know, despite losing the two

1787
01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:11,240
Speaker 4: players that they lost to the MLB last year, they

1788
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 4: are still a very good team and they're a very

1789
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 4: deep team.

1790
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:15,800
Speaker 16: And that's what Jordan Bischel told us before the.

1791
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:18,760
Speaker 4: Season that while they might not have as much top

1792
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:22,439
Speaker 4: of the level talent, they are very very deep basically

1793
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:26,519
Speaker 4: all over the place and definitely including pitching. So that

1794
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:30,880
Speaker 4: getting that win, especially shutting them out eight to nothing,

1795
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 4: it's just absolutely massive.

1796
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Speaker 16: So credit to Jordan Bischel.

1797
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Speaker 4: And this team.

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01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 2: There is uh, there's expectations set at the start of

1799
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:42,320
Speaker 2: every year. What where did the expectations start with this

1800
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:45,000
Speaker 2: baseball program at the University of Cincinnati.

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01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:46,120
Speaker 4: Is it back to the.

1802
01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 2: Tournament where where where do those start and stop going

1803
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:50,120
Speaker 2: into this season?

1804
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:55,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think when we talked to Jordan before the season,

1805
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:58,479
Speaker 4: he didn't lay out anything specifically, but he definitely did

1806
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 4: say that they would pre be pretty disappointed if they

1807
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:05,920
Speaker 4: weren't playing into June. So I think the expectation is

1808
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 4: to get back to postseason ball, maybe even sliding into

1809
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:12,479
Speaker 4: that like two seed and whatever region they get, or

1810
01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:15,040
Speaker 4: maybe they play really really well and they're able to

1811
01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:19,280
Speaker 4: host a regional. I'm motivated by getting i think the ninth.

1812
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Speaker 16: Or eighth spot in the preseason Big twelve.

1813
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:25,920
Speaker 4: So they're a good team and I think that they

1814
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:29,400
Speaker 4: expect to be playing and they be able to compete

1815
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:31,479
Speaker 4: in that regional wherever they're at.

1816
01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 16: And when I asked coach Bischell before the season, like,

1817
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,320
Speaker 16: how do you what did you.

1818
01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:40,719
Speaker 4: Learn about playing in a regional like you did at Tennessee,

1819
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:43,760
Speaker 4: And he said, you need pitching depths, like in order

1820
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:47,719
Speaker 4: to play that entire weekend and be competitive in the games,

1821
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:51,960
Speaker 4: you have to have that fifth and sixth reliever that's

1822
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:53,679
Speaker 4: going to get you a lot of innings and throw

1823
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:54,400
Speaker 4: quality ball.

1824
01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:56,880
Speaker 16: And I think that he's confident that they got those

1825
01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:57,639
Speaker 16: guys this year.

1826
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Speaker 2: Before I get into UC hoops, it's been a bizarre

1827
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:03,760
Speaker 2: college basketball week. I want to get your thoughts on

1828
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:05,439
Speaker 2: a couple of different things. What did you make of

1829
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:08,640
Speaker 2: the scenes in East Lansing as Mick Cronan ejected his

1830
01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:11,959
Speaker 2: own player from the bench, and then Mick Cronan's comments

1831
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 2: after the game as well.

1832
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 4: Part of me thinks that Nick kind of lives in

1833
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:23,520
Speaker 4: his own world and he doesn't care about what anyone.

1834
01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 16: Thinks or says outside of it, and I think like

1835
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:29,960
Speaker 16: a college basketball coach has to have a little bit of.

1836
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:33,640
Speaker 4: That inside of them. Now, none of that is excusable,

1837
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:38,000
Speaker 4: like throwing your kid out of the stadium in front

1838
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:41,800
Speaker 4: of what was like thirteen thousand sands at a sort

1839
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:44,960
Speaker 4: out arena a little bit of a nerve reaction. And

1840
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 4: then like I've dealt with coaches and press conferences to

1841
01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 4: where like, if you ask them a question and give

1842
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:54,120
Speaker 4: them the opportunity to be an a hole, they're gonna

1843
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:56,400
Speaker 4: take advantage of it. And Nick is definitely one of

1844
01:32:56,479 --> 01:33:00,280
Speaker 4: those guys. So you know, that's also a telltale sign

1845
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:03,120
Speaker 4: of not really knowing the coach that you want to

1846
01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:06,680
Speaker 4: talk to or that you're talking to, and you know,

1847
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:10,280
Speaker 4: it's a Michigan reporter asking Nick Cronin about the opposing

1848
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:12,920
Speaker 4: team student section. Like a lot of coaches would entertain

1849
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 4: it and be a god. You know, it doesn't really matter.

1850
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:20,559
Speaker 16: It's competition and it's it's what makes great. Atmosphere is great.

1851
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:26,960
Speaker 16: But Nick is completely dismiss it. So, yeah, it was.

1852
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:28,000
Speaker 16: It was pretty fun.

1853
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:29,959
Speaker 4: I actually fell asleep on the couch.

1854
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:32,200
Speaker 16: That night waiting for the conference to get upset it

1855
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:35,880
Speaker 16: on YouTube, so I had to wait until the next morning.

1856
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:41,719
Speaker 2: Big Twelve happenings. Terrible news out of Lubbock for Texas Tech,

1857
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:45,599
Speaker 2: a team whose resume was extremely interesting because they held

1858
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:48,560
Speaker 2: wins against Duke, they held wins against number one Arizona

1859
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:51,559
Speaker 2: on the road, and then the news that JT. Toppin

1860
01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:54,160
Speaker 2: is now out for the rest of the season. It's

1861
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:56,439
Speaker 2: obviously an opponent that u SEC's coming up in just

1862
01:33:56,479 --> 01:33:58,639
Speaker 2: a couple of games as well, but how devastating does

1863
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:01,320
Speaker 2: that become for Tech out of the Big twelve.

1864
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:06,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think when you look at the upper echelon

1865
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:10,599
Speaker 4: of the Big Twelve, Texas Tech might be the team

1866
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:14,439
Speaker 4: that has impacted the most by losing their star player.

1867
01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:15,960
Speaker 4: Like you look at Kansas and.

1868
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 16: They Darren Peterson's been out and they've.

1869
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:20,960
Speaker 4: Still been able to win big games. Houston is a machine,

1870
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:26,599
Speaker 4: Arizona's the machine, Iowa State's the machine. BYU that would

1871
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:28,720
Speaker 4: probably be the next step with aj debants and how

1872
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:32,599
Speaker 4: that impacts them. But Texas Tech has really been JT.

1873
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:35,600
Speaker 4: Tompin and Christian Anderson. And now when you lose a

1874
01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:37,640
Speaker 4: guy like Topman, who was in the running to be

1875
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:39,960
Speaker 4: National Player of the Year, Big Twelve Player of the Year,

1876
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 4: I think that that makes it really interesting for them.

1877
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:46,680
Speaker 4: And I mean, they've got to play Cincinnati coming up,

1878
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:49,519
Speaker 4: the Bearcats are able to steal a game from them,

1879
01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:53,040
Speaker 4: and then they've also got Iowa State and BYU down

1880
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:56,400
Speaker 4: the road do the Raiders. So they've got an interesting

1881
01:34:56,479 --> 01:34:59,280
Speaker 4: remainder of the schedule. But it kind of opens a

1882
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:03,360
Speaker 4: window for s Natty to surprise the people, maybe slide

1883
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:05,479
Speaker 4: into that first round by the Big Twelve tournament.

1884
01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:09,080
Speaker 2: You also have what happened last night with Kansas and

1885
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:12,840
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State with Darren Peterson. Everyone's talking about it today.

1886
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:16,879
Speaker 2: How do you view the situation that's unfolding with arguably

1887
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:18,920
Speaker 2: one of the best players, if not the best player

1888
01:35:19,320 --> 01:35:20,759
Speaker 2: in the game of college basketball.

1889
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:25,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I can't stand the NBA. I don't

1890
01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:29,599
Speaker 4: think it's a There isn't really an emphasis on trying

1891
01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:33,759
Speaker 4: to create an entertaining product, or there isn't an emphasis

1892
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:35,679
Speaker 4: to put something on the floor for the fans.

1893
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:40,639
Speaker 16: It's it's basically all about just maximizing.

1894
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:43,320
Speaker 4: Your value, like your monetary value, and putting yourself in

1895
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:46,040
Speaker 4: the best position to make as much money as you

1896
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:49,320
Speaker 4: possibly can. And credit to him, like, the kid's an

1897
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:51,720
Speaker 4: absolute stud. He's going to make probably one hundred and

1898
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:54,639
Speaker 4: fifty two hundred million dollars here in five or six

1899
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:58,600
Speaker 4: years when he signs a Supermax day. But I just

1900
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:01,280
Speaker 4: there's a part of me that once guys to compete

1901
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:03,639
Speaker 4: for the love of the game. Sure, and people talked

1902
01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:05,960
Speaker 4: about it with Ben Simmons when he was in the NBA,

1903
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:08,720
Speaker 4: like does he actually like playing basketball or is it

1904
01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:10,880
Speaker 4: just something that he's good at and knows that he

1905
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:14,439
Speaker 4: can maximize his values. So it's a negative on the sport.

1906
01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:17,960
Speaker 4: It's also just another example of people listening to the

1907
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:24,240
Speaker 4: wrong people and surrounding yourself with agents, parents, former coaches

1908
01:36:24,920 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 4: that want to dip their toe and then they're advising

1909
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:28,639
Speaker 4: you to do stuff that's only.

1910
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:30,639
Speaker 16: In your best interest and not in the best interests

1911
01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:31,080
Speaker 16: of the team.

1912
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:35,320
Speaker 4: What I will say is I wouldn't really expect him

1913
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:38,479
Speaker 4: to take this kind of load management role in the tournament.

1914
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:40,439
Speaker 4: So if you're going to look for a team that's

1915
01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:45,040
Speaker 4: gonna win two or three seed, Kansas is a huge

1916
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:45,720
Speaker 4: candidate for that.

1917
01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:47,639
Speaker 16: If he's going to play thirty two minutes a game.

1918
01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:49,280
Speaker 16: There is also the.

1919
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:52,000
Speaker 4: Chance that this is all very real and he's actually

1920
01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:56,080
Speaker 4: just struggling with cramps whenever the second half starts for

1921
01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:59,439
Speaker 4: all these games, so that that could be a case.

1922
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:01,400
Speaker 2: But you know, if that's the case, why not just

1923
01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:04,000
Speaker 2: sit him down Saturday, Kegan just rest him.

1924
01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:07,360
Speaker 4: I have no idea.

1925
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 16: It's I don't know, maybe it's a contract saying.

1926
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:13,559
Speaker 4: But maybe he scores like thirty two points in fifteen

1927
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 4: minutes at Cincinnati and then just sits the rest.

1928
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:16,160
Speaker 7: Of the day.

1929
01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 16: So we could do that too.

1930
01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:21,160
Speaker 2: The game itself, Cincinnati winners of three in a row,

1931
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 2: and in two of those three I thought they put

1932
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:25,880
Speaker 2: together some of their more strong performances of the year.

1933
01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:28,519
Speaker 2: It was a struggle against Utah, But the silver lining

1934
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:31,400
Speaker 2: is a team that fell down late in the game

1935
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:34,000
Speaker 2: sixty five sixty. I thought, here comes another game that's

1936
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:35,880
Speaker 2: going to get away from them, and then they score

1937
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:37,200
Speaker 2: the final nine points of the game.

1938
01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:39,000
Speaker 3: They have momentum going.

1939
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:43,479
Speaker 2: How does uc now fill this extended time off to

1940
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:46,320
Speaker 2: try to keep that momentum going into Lawrence, Kansas on Saturday.

1941
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:50,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you just have to continue to play

1942
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:54,040
Speaker 4: pressure free basketball. And I think the Utah game was

1943
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:56,080
Speaker 4: a great example of them being able to overcome an

1944
01:37:56,240 --> 01:37:59,759
Speaker 4: adversity and just play their game in a pressure packed environment.

1945
01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:04,720
Speaker 4: You get a genuine quality win over UCF, like UCFS

1946
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:08,640
Speaker 4: probably going to be a tournament team most likely, and

1947
01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:10,680
Speaker 4: then you beat the two bottom theaters in the league in.

1948
01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:11,639
Speaker 16: Kansas State and Utah.

1949
01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:16,080
Speaker 4: But what we've seen with this team is when when

1950
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:18,160
Speaker 4: they have that good win and then they have winnable

1951
01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:21,400
Speaker 4: games after them, they usually lose at least one of those.

1952
01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:25,439
Speaker 4: And then, like we've all seen the some three and

1953
01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:30,240
Speaker 4: one hundred and fifteen when trailing under five minutes left

1954
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Speaker 4: for west Miller's stat and they were able to overcome

1955
01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 4: that and get a big win. So I think you

1956
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:39,320
Speaker 4: just have to continue stacking good days. You have to

1957
01:38:39,400 --> 01:38:42,400
Speaker 4: realize that barring a miracle. You're probably not going to

1958
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:46,800
Speaker 4: be playing postseason basketball, but you can still make fans proud,

1959
01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:49,439
Speaker 4: you can still make your teammates proud and coaches proud

1960
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Speaker 4: and try to end the season on as high of

1961
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:52,679
Speaker 4: note as possible.

1962
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Speaker 2: When you look at the health of this team, Obviously

1963
01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:57,519
Speaker 2: Seana bib has been out, but it seems like he

1964
01:38:57,680 --> 01:39:00,320
Speaker 2: was getting closer. We got the update on Haye that

1965
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:03,040
Speaker 2: we've been kind of waiting for from a health standpoint,

1966
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:06,439
Speaker 2: How do you expect them to be at what Les

1967
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:08,759
Speaker 2: Miller has at his disposal on Saturday in Kansas.

1968
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Speaker 4: Yeah. I always try to like predict this, and then

1969
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 4: there's always an injury on the last possession of practice

1970
01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:19,080
Speaker 4: right before they leave for an away game, So I

1971
01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:22,200
Speaker 4: never really know. With this team, I would expect Sean

1972
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:26,400
Speaker 4: to be fine. He missed the Kansas State game after

1973
01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:29,840
Speaker 4: playing against UCF and then played against Utah. It seems

1974
01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:31,439
Speaker 4: like that was just a day to day thing, and

1975
01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:36,240
Speaker 4: he's seemingly healthy as long as everything's gone great. Seanabayev

1976
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:39,040
Speaker 4: just being playing out for the past few games and

1977
01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:43,519
Speaker 4: never really being questionable. Never I don't recall seeing him

1978
01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:46,200
Speaker 4: in warm ups. That makes me doubtful that he's going

1979
01:39:46,240 --> 01:39:48,720
Speaker 4: to play in Kansas after a week's rest.

1980
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Speaker 16: Maybe you see him against Sexis Tech.

1981
01:39:51,320 --> 01:39:53,439
Speaker 4: Maybe you see him warming up against Kansas and just

1982
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:57,479
Speaker 4: getting more involved. But outside of that, per Crease would

1983
01:39:57,520 --> 01:40:00,360
Speaker 4: be the other option of is he availed boy? Is

1984
01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:01,799
Speaker 4: he going to play with the shoulder?

1985
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:05,000
Speaker 16: Maybe he plays some spot minutes, but just based off the.

1986
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:09,080
Speaker 4: The trajectory of how his season is gone over the

1987
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:11,840
Speaker 4: past month, I wouldn't expect much from him.

1988
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Speaker 2: You mentioned the stretch run here that Cincinnati has down

1989
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:19,000
Speaker 2: the strouch, you play Kansas Texas Tech. You also have

1990
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:21,719
Speaker 2: Byu on the schedule, who loses their second leading scorer

1991
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:25,839
Speaker 2: in Richie Saunders. It does open up the window, Keegan,

1992
01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:28,280
Speaker 2: not like you said, not to run the table and

1993
01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:32,080
Speaker 2: sneak into the tournament, but to put together more wins

1994
01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:34,800
Speaker 2: than losses down the stretch. Are we at a point

1995
01:40:35,200 --> 01:40:38,599
Speaker 2: with this program in your opinion where that matters going

1996
01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:41,519
Speaker 2: forward for Wes Miller or how do you view what's

1997
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:43,439
Speaker 2: going on with the head coach situation that you see.

1998
01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:50,120
Speaker 4: I think if Wes Miller can give John Cunningham and

1999
01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:55,599
Speaker 4: Cincinnati a great reason to not fire him despite making

2000
01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:59,680
Speaker 4: the not making the tournament. I think Cincinnati will take

2001
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:02,799
Speaker 4: advance to bet like if they finish on a scorcher,

2002
01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:07,479
Speaker 4: they probably lose. They lose the Kansas and Lawrence, and

2003
01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:09,200
Speaker 4: then you have four winnable games.

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Speaker 3: Let's say, what if they finish the league in the

2005
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:12,960
Speaker 3: Big twelve. Is that enough?

2006
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Speaker 16: I don't know if five hundred is enough, but I

2007
01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:18,280
Speaker 16: think ten and eight might be.

2008
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Speaker 4: And then maybe you win two, maybe three games in

2009
01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:26,760
Speaker 4: the Big twelve tournament. I just know that Cincinnati is

2010
01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:30,000
Speaker 4: not a school that's exactly strapped for cash, and you

2011
01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:32,840
Speaker 4: also have a football coach who next year you might

2012
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:36,320
Speaker 4: have to make a change if things go poorly. So

2013
01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:41,519
Speaker 4: if they can put themselves in an excusable financial move

2014
01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:44,639
Speaker 4: to bring him back, maybe that happens. I'm not saying

2015
01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:47,760
Speaker 4: they should. I'm also not saying the fans should get

2016
01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:49,519
Speaker 4: on board with it at all, because I know if

2017
01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:54,080
Speaker 4: that does happen, because any result that isn't an NCAA

2018
01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:56,640
Speaker 4: tournament this year that sees Wes Miller coming back, the

2019
01:41:56,800 --> 01:42:01,280
Speaker 4: fans will be rightfully very angry, and they deserve to be.

2020
01:42:01,720 --> 01:42:05,240
Speaker 4: But an ad looking at this, if you can find

2021
01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:07,479
Speaker 4: a reason to bring them back, a young coach who

2022
01:42:08,120 --> 01:42:10,599
Speaker 4: recruits well, you just don't really see that ends lading

2023
01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:13,800
Speaker 4: in the wins. Give him one more shot, you save

2024
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:17,479
Speaker 4: another maybe seven million dollars in a buyout five million

2025
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:18,880
Speaker 4: dollars in a buyout.

2026
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Speaker 16: Which that makes a big difference to the school like

2027
01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:24,080
Speaker 16: Cincinnati compared to a school that's flushed with cash like

2028
01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:25,960
Speaker 16: apparently Kansas State is.

2029
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:29,320
Speaker 2: I was watching over the weekend the Iowa State win

2030
01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:33,000
Speaker 2: over Kansas and there was a timeout where Iowa State's

2031
01:42:33,080 --> 01:42:37,479
Speaker 2: coach is removed from the huddle entirely, and there's another

2032
01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:40,439
Speaker 2: coach that's drawing up I would see at the time,

2033
01:42:40,439 --> 01:42:42,800
Speaker 2: he's drawing up the defense for the team. With where

2034
01:42:42,880 --> 01:42:46,080
Speaker 2: this team has been defensively, they've consistently been in the

2035
01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:49,720
Speaker 2: top ten of team defense in college basketball, but with

2036
01:42:49,880 --> 01:42:53,200
Speaker 2: where this team now sits, in the struggles they've had

2037
01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:56,920
Speaker 2: on offense, could you pitch something like that to bring

2038
01:42:57,000 --> 01:43:00,360
Speaker 2: in just an offensive minded coach that's going to be

2039
01:43:00,600 --> 01:43:03,240
Speaker 2: the timeout to time out guy that's going to talk

2040
01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:06,040
Speaker 2: to the team about what sets to run offensively. Is

2041
01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:09,000
Speaker 2: that a Is that an opening? Is that a possibility?

2042
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:11,800
Speaker 2: If you do bring back Wes Miller to add that

2043
01:43:11,960 --> 01:43:15,920
Speaker 2: to the staff, it could be.

2044
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Speaker 4: I just don't see Wes Miller wanting to do that,

2045
01:43:20,439 --> 01:43:23,719
Speaker 4: Like maybe if it's a thing where it's an amended

2046
01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:25,920
Speaker 4: contract that he has to do it, or like they

2047
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:28,000
Speaker 4: would move on or he would avoid his buyout or

2048
01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:33,320
Speaker 4: something as fired. But like Wes is the judge, jury,

2049
01:43:33,360 --> 01:43:36,600
Speaker 4: and executioner of Cincinnati basketball, it does not seem like

2050
01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:40,000
Speaker 4: there is a lot of delegation on certain tasks. Like

2051
01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:43,960
Speaker 4: when we watch him during practice, like he's leading everything,

2052
01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:47,280
Speaker 4: He's taking care of everything. The assistants are obviously helping

2053
01:43:47,320 --> 01:43:51,040
Speaker 4: and they're doing assistant coach things, But like the difference

2054
01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:54,120
Speaker 4: in practice from a Scot Satifield practice to a Wes

2055
01:43:54,200 --> 01:43:58,200
Speaker 4: Miller practice are a complete one pint eighty. Like Satterfield

2056
01:43:58,280 --> 01:44:01,559
Speaker 4: is in the shadows his assistance to everything, Wes Miller

2057
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:03,960
Speaker 4: is in charge of everything. He's very involved.

2058
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Speaker 16: I just don't know if it fits his personality.

2059
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:09,840
Speaker 4: To do something like that, and whether he would be

2060
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:13,439
Speaker 4: willing to remove himself from such a central part of

2061
01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:17,760
Speaker 4: the team. Maybe it's a coming of age thing and.

2062
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Speaker 16: Being a college coach, and you just realize, like if

2063
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:21,400
Speaker 16: I want to.

2064
01:44:21,439 --> 01:44:23,760
Speaker 4: Actually have success and get the best out of my team,

2065
01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:27,160
Speaker 4: I have to make this adjustment. If it was going

2066
01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:29,120
Speaker 4: to happen, it would be in year six where you

2067
01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:32,360
Speaker 4: don't really have another option. But he's brought in Tim Buckley,

2068
01:44:32,360 --> 01:44:35,519
Speaker 4: who has called the shot Doctor. Kelly Peters is supposed

2069
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:38,040
Speaker 4: to be a great offensive mind, and you do see him,

2070
01:44:38,160 --> 01:44:41,360
Speaker 4: like give some suggestions during games, but it's not really

2071
01:44:41,439 --> 01:44:46,360
Speaker 4: him leading timeouts. So he's brought in the offensive minds

2072
01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:48,240
Speaker 4: to try to fix it, and it just hasn't worked.

2073
01:44:48,600 --> 01:44:49,920
Speaker 4: That's definitely a good idea.

2074
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Speaker 16: I just don't see Wes Miller doing it.

2075
01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:55,280
Speaker 2: Lastly, and this is a conversation. We had a lot

2076
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:57,439
Speaker 2: in the off season, but I've not heard the name

2077
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Speaker 2: at all during the season. We made a lot in

2078
01:45:00,320 --> 01:45:02,680
Speaker 2: the offseason about the addition of Corey Evans in the

2079
01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:06,360
Speaker 2: GM role for the Bearcats. We haven't heard much about

2080
01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:08,599
Speaker 2: Corey Evans, or at least I haven't during the season.

2081
01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:09,599
Speaker 3: Is that by design?

2082
01:45:09,800 --> 01:45:14,040
Speaker 2: Is his role more off season for the Bearcats or

2083
01:45:14,360 --> 01:45:17,120
Speaker 2: did you expect him to have more of a role

2084
01:45:17,240 --> 01:45:17,920
Speaker 2: during the season.

2085
01:45:19,840 --> 01:45:21,640
Speaker 16: No, I didn't really expect him to have a role

2086
01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:22,320
Speaker 16: during the season.

2087
01:45:22,439 --> 01:45:24,519
Speaker 4: I honestly, I don't even know if he.

2088
01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:28,559
Speaker 16: Has a primary residence in Cincinnati. He's probably got multiple

2089
01:45:28,640 --> 01:45:31,160
Speaker 16: places across the country because.

2090
01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:34,200
Speaker 4: Like he's all over the place making connections with high

2091
01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:38,200
Speaker 4: school coaches, with agents. He's traveling a ton. I know

2092
01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:40,840
Speaker 4: he has great connections in Spain, which is one of

2093
01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:43,840
Speaker 4: the biggest reasons that they were able to land Baba Miller,

2094
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:48,439
Speaker 4: Jordie Rodriguez, the Lucas Satari kid from Brazil. So, like

2095
01:45:49,400 --> 01:45:52,320
Speaker 4: his job is definitely to be in the shadows and

2096
01:45:52,439 --> 01:45:55,280
Speaker 4: be working behind the scenes. It's kind of similar to

2097
01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:59,519
Speaker 4: Jack Griffith and Zach Grant, Like you don't see you

2098
01:45:59,640 --> 01:46:01,599
Speaker 4: didn't see a lot of their stuff with the football

2099
01:46:01,640 --> 01:46:04,840
Speaker 4: team during the season. It's more when the season's going on,

2100
01:46:05,439 --> 01:46:07,920
Speaker 4: they're grinding tape. They're trying to find the right connections

2101
01:46:08,160 --> 01:46:10,240
Speaker 4: and investigate all these guys to see if they would

2102
01:46:10,240 --> 01:46:13,120
Speaker 4: be a good fit. You really see his work in.

2103
01:46:13,160 --> 01:46:16,160
Speaker 16: The transfer portal and trying to recruit those high school guys.

2104
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:19,360
Speaker 2: That is the voice of Keegan nickoson Bearcat Journal dot

2105
01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:23,000
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Speaker 4: Yeah, follow k nickoson forty two on X and make

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Speaker 4: sure you're subscribed to Bearcat Journal gonna be an interesting

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Speaker 3: Is Chad sending you to fall Gallen?

2114
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Speaker 16: No, absolutely not. I thought maybe with combine next week.

2115
01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:48,760
Speaker 2: Well, I thought maybe with this trip you'd go to

2116
01:46:49,479 --> 01:46:52,000
Speaker 2: Kansas and then Texas Tech and follow this team. But

2117
01:46:52,560 --> 01:46:55,000
Speaker 2: combine that works as well, that'd be more than what

2118
01:46:55,120 --> 01:46:56,120
Speaker 2: Austin and I are attending.

2119
01:46:58,840 --> 01:47:02,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not a great financial use to send me

2120
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:04,920
Speaker 4: the away basketball game, now fair.

2121
01:47:05,479 --> 01:47:07,560
Speaker 3: I get it. I get it. Keegan, thanks again for

2122
01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:07,920
Speaker 3: your time.

2123
01:47:07,960 --> 01:47:08,080
Speaker 9: Man.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk again next week.

2125
01:47:10,640 --> 01:47:12,679
Speaker 4: Thanks Tony, and thank you for not raising your voice

2126
01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:12,880
Speaker 4: at me.

2127
01:47:13,120 --> 01:47:18,160
Speaker 2: Always calm, cool and collected. That's Keegan Nickison bearricat Journal

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01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:24,639
Speaker 2: dot com. Austin and listening to that, do you feel

2129
01:47:24,640 --> 01:47:26,240
Speaker 2: it all the tide turning a little bit around the

2130
01:47:26,240 --> 01:47:32,479
Speaker 2: West Miller conversation from what Keegan just said, or it

2131
01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:38,080
Speaker 2: felt like in weeks prior it was maybe a foreging

2132
01:47:38,160 --> 01:47:40,960
Speaker 2: conclusion even talking to Keegan that it wasn't gonna be

2133
01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:43,320
Speaker 2: wes as to now it's well, let's see how they

2134
01:47:43,400 --> 01:47:45,400
Speaker 2: play out this stretch. And I thought what Keegan said

2135
01:47:45,479 --> 01:47:50,479
Speaker 2: was interesting. If you give an ad the reason to

2136
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:53,120
Speaker 2: not fire someone, they're gonna jump at it. That to me,

2137
01:47:53,320 --> 01:47:56,439
Speaker 2: just that that tone felt a little bit different than

2138
01:47:56,520 --> 01:47:58,680
Speaker 2: as opposed to what we've heard in recent weeks. I

2139
01:47:58,720 --> 01:48:03,720
Speaker 2: feel like something to watch her, something to watch for uh,

2140
01:48:04,120 --> 01:48:07,600
Speaker 2: definitely going forward. Let's update where things are at with

2141
01:48:07,680 --> 01:48:10,800
Speaker 2: the Olympic Games. When we come back, phone lines open

2142
01:48:10,840 --> 01:48:13,280
Speaker 2: as well. Five one, three seven, fifteen thirty on this

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Speaker 2: the Home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports

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Speaker 2: Station NOP.

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Speaker 3: I guess just start talking apparently? Is that apparently the

2146
01:48:29,920 --> 01:48:33,560
Speaker 3: the oh Man, the Olympic sounder, just doesn't want to

2147
01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:34,120
Speaker 3: work anymore.

2148
01:48:34,280 --> 01:48:38,160
Speaker 2: Well, we're back on Sincy three sixty with an Olympic

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Speaker 2: update ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 3: There it is Coley, There it is. I'm having a

2151
01:48:45,080 --> 01:48:54,759
Speaker 3: day back here today, man, doing my best. Our update

2152
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Speaker 3: from the Olympic Games. It's not a good one right now.

2153
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Speaker 2: For team you say, women's hockey, big favorite going into

2154
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Speaker 2: the golden medal match against Canada, team that they beat

2155
01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:11,200
Speaker 2: earlier on in this tournament. Five nothing. It is currently

2156
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Speaker 2: one nothing in favor of the Canadians. USA has missed

2157
01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:19,759
Speaker 2: some point blank shots. In my opinion, on goal. Canada

2158
01:49:19,840 --> 01:49:22,400
Speaker 2: is also playing good, and it feels to me, and

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Speaker 2: I don't know much about the ins and outs of hockey,

2160
01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:26,400
Speaker 2: it feels like one team is playing loose and one

2161
01:49:26,439 --> 01:49:27,240
Speaker 2: team is playing tight.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how you get that. I don't know

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01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:34,000
Speaker 3: enough about hockey to make that sort of It's also

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Speaker 3: what I've gotten this followed along with it on social media.

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Speaker 3: It's an elite uniform matchup though. Yeah, I mean, the

2167
01:49:39,120 --> 01:49:42,599
Speaker 3: Canadian uniforms are unbelievable. The United States ones are great

2168
01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:45,439
Speaker 3: as well, but yeah, I mean this is for all

2169
01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:50,639
Speaker 3: the tostitos right here, speaking of all the toastedos, my gosh,

2170
01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:52,360
Speaker 3: they really did have one right in front of them.

2171
01:49:52,520 --> 01:49:55,200
Speaker 3: I mean, just point blank stuff that they just couldn't

2172
01:49:56,240 --> 01:49:59,120
Speaker 3: just couldn't put it home. Earlier today, American speed stata

2173
01:49:59,200 --> 01:50:02,360
Speaker 3: skater Jordan Stoles had a bid for a third gold

2174
01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:03,240
Speaker 3: medal at the Olympics.

2175
01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:06,479
Speaker 2: He came up just short. He takes home a silver medal.

2176
01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:09,960
Speaker 2: Mentioned earlier in the show that women's curling is onto

2177
01:50:10,120 --> 01:50:15,479
Speaker 2: the semifinal round. They have advanced where the men curling

2178
01:50:15,560 --> 01:50:19,120
Speaker 2: team did not. But it leaves us right now with

2179
01:50:19,240 --> 01:50:23,160
Speaker 2: the current Olympic update, Austin, Norwegians are running away with

2180
01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:27,200
Speaker 2: it thirty four total medals, including sixteen gold. Right now,

2181
01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:30,080
Speaker 2: Italy holding on to second place in the total medal

2182
01:50:30,160 --> 01:50:33,920
Speaker 2: count twenty six to twenty five over the United States

2183
01:50:33,960 --> 01:50:38,160
Speaker 2: of America. A lot of people were counting on this

2184
01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:41,519
Speaker 2: right now to be a gold medal opportunity for the US,

2185
01:50:41,560 --> 01:50:45,519
Speaker 2: which would tie them with Italy in the total medal

2186
01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:48,280
Speaker 2: count and have opened up a little bit distance right

2187
01:50:48,360 --> 01:50:51,559
Speaker 2: now between US and Japan, who currently sits at twenty

2188
01:50:51,680 --> 01:50:54,439
Speaker 2: two medals in the Olympics.

2189
01:50:55,479 --> 01:51:00,800
Speaker 3: Only team with double digit silvers is the United States.

2190
01:51:00,840 --> 01:51:01,479
Speaker 3: What's that good for?

2191
01:51:02,920 --> 01:51:05,280
Speaker 2: I guess it ain't Brons. Tom Brady's in the house

2192
01:51:05,360 --> 01:51:09,400
Speaker 2: right now. We're talking of a sweet US quarters up

2193
01:51:09,800 --> 01:51:12,759
Speaker 2: seth Mia. I mean, the stars are out for USA

2194
01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:17,840
Speaker 2: and Canada hockey. But good to see Tom Brady there. Well,

2195
01:51:17,880 --> 01:51:19,439
Speaker 2: I don't have anything else to be doing right now.

2196
01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:21,280
Speaker 3: Honest to god, why is he there? I thought he

2197
01:51:21,400 --> 01:51:23,760
Speaker 3: was running the Raiders, That's what I thought. Don't they

2198
01:51:23,840 --> 01:51:25,880
Speaker 3: have like an interesting time to leave? Do you think

2199
01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:28,040
Speaker 3: he's like on the phone with Duke Tobin about a

2200
01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:29,080
Speaker 3: Max Crosby thing.

2201
01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:34,559
Speaker 2: That's that's how serious the Max Crosby negotiations are going.

2202
01:51:34,680 --> 01:51:36,200
Speaker 2: Is that Tom Brady's like, I'm just gonna head over

2203
01:51:36,200 --> 01:51:36,759
Speaker 2: to the Olympics.

2204
01:51:36,880 --> 01:51:41,040
Speaker 3: If you're the Raiders, if you're a Raiders fan and

2205
01:51:41,160 --> 01:51:43,519
Speaker 3: this is a guy who's supposedly running your team, this

2206
01:51:43,640 --> 01:51:50,280
Speaker 3: is important times incredibly important offseason. If I saw Duke

2207
01:51:50,320 --> 01:51:53,360
Speaker 3: Tobin over there, I would be pissed, right, Like, what

2208
01:51:53,439 --> 01:51:55,559
Speaker 3: are we doing? Like doukie ball game? What we doing

2209
01:51:55,600 --> 01:51:58,519
Speaker 3: about dookie ball game? Dooky ball game? You like that one.

2210
01:52:00,120 --> 01:52:02,559
Speaker 3: I can't wait to tweet spencey long balls against him.

2211
01:52:03,080 --> 01:52:07,120
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, uh, okay, Tom, Look now, they

2212
01:52:07,200 --> 01:52:10,800
Speaker 3: do have internet over there in Italy, and they do

2213
01:52:11,040 --> 01:52:13,720
Speaker 3: have you know, phones still work over there. Okay, so

2214
01:52:14,040 --> 01:52:15,240
Speaker 3: I guess he could still work.

2215
01:52:15,479 --> 01:52:17,880
Speaker 2: You think in between like this and whatever event he's

2216
01:52:17,880 --> 01:52:20,479
Speaker 2: going to next, he's just in the hotel breaking down tape.

2217
01:52:21,000 --> 01:52:21,200
Speaker 13: Yeah.

2218
01:52:21,280 --> 01:52:24,080
Speaker 3: Probably, If Tom Brady is who I think he is,

2219
01:52:24,520 --> 01:52:28,040
Speaker 3: then yes, yeah, I don't know that. I don't know

2220
01:52:28,040 --> 01:52:30,559
Speaker 3: how much tape. I mean, they've made something official earlier

2221
01:52:30,600 --> 01:52:34,439
Speaker 3: today about like a hiring they should make for him.

2222
01:52:35,439 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 3: He's delegating a lot of that to John Spytech. Go

2223
01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:40,719
Speaker 3: ahead and make that official to him and the Raiders.

2224
01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:44,240
Speaker 3: But did you see the report of what the Raiders

2225
01:52:44,280 --> 01:52:51,519
Speaker 3: are apparently looking for? No for Max Crosby. I did not,

2226
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:57,080
Speaker 3: So let me see if I have this correctly. They

2227
01:52:57,240 --> 01:53:02,600
Speaker 3: want a package similar to what the Cowboys got for

2228
01:53:02,720 --> 01:53:08,080
Speaker 3: Micah Parsons, which was a very good defensive tackle in

2229
01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:12,400
Speaker 3: Kenny Clark and two first round picks, one this year

2230
01:53:12,439 --> 01:53:18,679
Speaker 3: and one next year. Would you give up let's say,

2231
01:53:21,240 --> 01:53:25,479
Speaker 3: b J. Hill, Yes? Or I mean I know that

2232
01:53:25,680 --> 01:53:29,479
Speaker 3: there's not like a lot of pelts on the wall there. Yes,

2233
01:53:29,600 --> 01:53:33,840
Speaker 3: what if it's Jordan Battle? Would you give up Jordan

2234
01:53:33,960 --> 01:53:37,919
Speaker 3: Battle and two first round picks for Max Crosby?

2235
01:53:39,160 --> 01:53:44,920
Speaker 2: I think I would, strictly in the thought process of

2236
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:49,320
Speaker 2: winning now and capitalizing on the window that you're in

2237
01:53:49,439 --> 01:53:52,360
Speaker 2: right now with what you have on offense and those

2238
01:53:52,439 --> 01:53:55,360
Speaker 2: players being in the prime, prime spots of their career.

2239
01:53:56,120 --> 01:53:58,960
Speaker 2: I think if it meant getting a game wrecking player

2240
01:53:59,040 --> 01:54:02,800
Speaker 2: in Max Crosby, who I would imagine Austin. It's hard

2241
01:54:03,120 --> 01:54:04,840
Speaker 2: and I know, and we talked about this a lot

2242
01:54:04,880 --> 01:54:07,200
Speaker 2: with Darren Peterson today. When you're just on a bad

2243
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:08,800
Speaker 2: team year in and year out, it's hard to be

2244
01:54:09,360 --> 01:54:12,080
Speaker 2: that much more motivated I think you would get a

2245
01:54:12,479 --> 01:54:14,320
Speaker 2: unbelievably motivated Max Crosby.

2246
01:54:14,920 --> 01:54:18,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that one hundred percent. Motivation does

2247
01:54:18,160 --> 01:54:19,639
Speaker 3: not always equal production though.

2248
01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:25,439
Speaker 2: No, but you also would get production value that you've

2249
01:54:25,560 --> 01:54:30,519
Speaker 2: seen consistently in the NFL. Not a prospect, not someone

2250
01:54:30,560 --> 01:54:34,320
Speaker 2: with upside, someone you know what they give you game

2251
01:54:34,400 --> 01:54:35,000
Speaker 2: in and game out.

2252
01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:38,760
Speaker 3: Did you see, speaking of Kenny Clark, that Bill Barnwell

2253
01:54:38,840 --> 01:54:42,680
Speaker 3: said the Bengals should trade for him. No, the Bengals,

2254
01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:45,480
Speaker 3: according to Kenny Clark, are not. According to Kinney Clark.

2255
01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:48,520
Speaker 3: Kenny Clark thinks so as well. Bill Barnwell put together

2256
01:54:48,760 --> 01:54:52,840
Speaker 3: trade proposals across the ESPN's network, and he's had the

2257
01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:57,360
Speaker 3: Bengals and Cowboys making a trade. The Bengals receive Kenny

2258
01:54:57,400 --> 01:55:02,080
Speaker 3: Clark and a seventh round pick in exchange for a

2259
01:55:02,320 --> 01:55:06,680
Speaker 3: sixth round pick in twenty twenty six. Kenny Clark is

2260
01:55:06,720 --> 01:55:10,720
Speaker 3: set to make twenty one million dollars. Eleven million of

2261
01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:15,840
Speaker 3: that comes in a mid March roster bonus. Okay, So

2262
01:55:16,240 --> 01:55:18,120
Speaker 3: sure I feel like I would do that.

2263
01:55:18,360 --> 01:55:20,920
Speaker 2: Yes, I feel like there's not a lot of moves

2264
01:55:20,960 --> 01:55:24,560
Speaker 2: I've I've heard at this point that I'm like, No,

2265
01:55:24,840 --> 01:55:25,040
Speaker 2: I'm not.

2266
01:55:25,120 --> 01:55:29,280
Speaker 3: I'm against that. Kenny Clark was not on the Kenny

2267
01:55:29,280 --> 01:55:31,920
Speaker 3: Clark of old last year and and but he was fine,

2268
01:55:31,960 --> 01:55:34,880
Speaker 3: he was a good player, and we continue to talk

2269
01:55:34,920 --> 01:55:38,080
Speaker 3: about interior past. So he is thirty, he is thirty.

2270
01:55:38,600 --> 01:55:41,960
Speaker 3: We're not fit the bill of what the Bengals typically do.

2271
01:55:44,280 --> 01:55:48,760
Speaker 3: But Mountain that's fifteen. That's the sort of stuff that

2272
01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:51,000
Speaker 3: they're looking for. Okay, Kenny Clark. I mean, ain't nothing

2273
01:55:51,040 --> 01:55:53,800
Speaker 3: small about old Kenny. One other NFL and I here

2274
01:55:53,880 --> 01:55:56,560
Speaker 3: I was, I thought they killed Kenny. No, they haven't

2275
01:55:56,560 --> 01:55:59,440
Speaker 3: done that yet. One other NFL note that that I

2276
01:55:59,520 --> 01:56:01,080
Speaker 3: think is is newsworthy.

2277
01:56:01,120 --> 01:56:01,240
Speaker 15: Here.

2278
01:56:02,000 --> 01:56:06,560
Speaker 2: What's going on in Indiana right now? Yeah, Indiana lawmakers

2279
01:56:06,800 --> 01:56:11,000
Speaker 2: in the state House have unanimously approved an amendment to

2280
01:56:11,160 --> 01:56:13,880
Speaker 2: Indiana State Bill twenty seven. Er was a twenty four

2281
01:56:13,880 --> 01:56:16,920
Speaker 2: to oh vote that would create a path for the

2282
01:56:17,120 --> 01:56:22,520
Speaker 2: Bears to build a stadium in Hammond, Indiana. This coming

2283
01:56:22,600 --> 01:56:24,760
Speaker 2: on the heels of the Bears who are trying to

2284
01:56:24,800 --> 01:56:26,720
Speaker 2: get a new stadium deal done in Illinois for a while,

2285
01:56:26,840 --> 01:56:29,520
Speaker 2: have not been able to get that done. Now here

2286
01:56:29,600 --> 01:56:32,840
Speaker 2: comes Indiana saying, well, we could get this done. Do

2287
01:56:32,920 --> 01:56:35,160
Speaker 2: you think there's any legs to this, and do you

2288
01:56:35,280 --> 01:56:38,240
Speaker 2: think this at all is good for Chicago or the NFL.

2289
01:56:38,400 --> 01:56:40,760
Speaker 3: I think the conversation has always kind of been that,

2290
01:56:41,000 --> 01:56:43,920
Speaker 3: you know, the Indiana, the idea of Indiana is more

2291
01:56:44,520 --> 01:56:50,400
Speaker 3: posturing for the Bears to land back in Illinois. But

2292
01:56:50,720 --> 01:56:54,160
Speaker 3: this does not seem like posturing to me. This seems

2293
01:56:54,280 --> 01:56:58,680
Speaker 3: like a very real possibility now. And I think there

2294
01:56:58,880 --> 01:57:02,760
Speaker 3: we forget a little bit of the geographical aspect of this.

2295
01:57:03,120 --> 01:57:07,360
Speaker 3: It's not that far away, correct, It's it's a governor.

2296
01:57:07,960 --> 01:57:11,240
Speaker 3: Indiana is open for business. Yeah, and as they should be.

2297
01:57:11,480 --> 01:57:13,720
Speaker 3: They should win an NFL team up in that part

2298
01:57:13,760 --> 01:57:17,160
Speaker 3: of the state, to an area that doesn't typically get

2299
01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:21,720
Speaker 3: that sort of of influx of stuff. And apparently the

2300
01:57:21,760 --> 01:57:24,000
Speaker 3: Bears are going to put two billion into it themselves,

2301
01:57:24,040 --> 01:57:31,160
Speaker 3: which they should. But this is about thirty minutes south

2302
01:57:31,240 --> 01:57:33,880
Speaker 3: of Soldier Field right now, so it's not like it's

2303
01:57:34,000 --> 01:57:37,080
Speaker 3: three hours. It's not like that proposal from Iowa that

2304
01:57:37,160 --> 01:57:42,080
Speaker 3: we had talked about once before. It's not ridiculous. I

2305
01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:46,240
Speaker 3: personally am partial to the idea of NFL teams in

2306
01:57:46,320 --> 01:57:47,320
Speaker 3: downtown stadiums.

2307
01:57:47,680 --> 01:57:48,200
Speaker 16: I like that.

2308
01:57:48,520 --> 01:57:51,920
Speaker 3: I think it's best for everyone. I think the billionaires

2309
01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:54,160
Speaker 3: should build their own stadiums, But I do think that

2310
01:57:54,280 --> 01:57:58,800
Speaker 3: the community should have involvement and be a part of that.

2311
01:58:00,160 --> 01:58:03,480
Speaker 3: I just personally, as as a fan, don't like the

2312
01:58:03,600 --> 01:58:06,560
Speaker 3: idea of the Bears playing thirty minutes south of Chicago

2313
01:58:07,320 --> 01:58:12,960
Speaker 3: in Indiana. However, I mean, Foxborough is like forty five

2314
01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:14,160
Speaker 3: minutes away from Boston.

2315
01:58:14,720 --> 01:58:14,960
Speaker 4: Sure.

2316
01:58:15,760 --> 01:58:17,440
Speaker 3: What I think would be funny is let's say the

2317
01:58:17,480 --> 01:58:22,640
Speaker 3: Bears play a Sunday night game, right, and they show

2318
01:58:23,280 --> 01:58:26,360
Speaker 3: shots of the Chicago skyline. Yeah, I mean that's what

2319
01:58:26,440 --> 01:58:29,280
Speaker 3: they do with the Patriots. The Patriots are in Foxboro,

2320
01:58:29,800 --> 01:58:33,160
Speaker 3: that's a trek from Boston, correct, and they show shots

2321
01:58:33,200 --> 01:58:36,720
Speaker 3: of Boston. The New York Giants and Jets play in

2322
01:58:36,760 --> 01:58:42,840
Speaker 3: New Jersey. So I mean, it's not that ridiculous on

2323
01:58:42,920 --> 01:58:43,400
Speaker 3: the surface.

2324
01:58:44,200 --> 01:58:44,440
Speaker 4: Just me.

2325
01:58:44,640 --> 01:58:47,280
Speaker 3: If it were me and my team, I want them downtown.

2326
01:58:48,360 --> 01:58:52,680
Speaker 3: But they're trying to build and create this footprint of

2327
01:58:53,600 --> 01:58:58,240
Speaker 3: Chicago Bears football where they're gonna own all this land

2328
01:58:59,640 --> 01:59:03,080
Speaker 3: and and build it out and build on it, and

2329
01:59:03,120 --> 01:59:06,280
Speaker 3: they're going to have restaurants and hotels and all sorts

2330
01:59:06,280 --> 01:59:08,120
Speaker 3: of shopping centers and all sorts of stuff, and they're

2331
01:59:08,120 --> 01:59:10,160
Speaker 3: going to own all of it. And they're gonna get

2332
01:59:10,200 --> 01:59:13,440
Speaker 3: most of the money. And you know, much like I've

2333
01:59:13,440 --> 01:59:15,320
Speaker 3: talked about the Braves with the Atlanta with the with

2334
01:59:15,440 --> 01:59:19,360
Speaker 3: the battery that they have down there, the Browns are

2335
01:59:19,400 --> 01:59:22,120
Speaker 3: doing this in brook Park. So my thought was this.

2336
01:59:22,680 --> 01:59:25,560
Speaker 2: It was like, Okay, early on, this is just a

2337
01:59:25,680 --> 01:59:29,000
Speaker 2: way to get Illinois's attention. Now it feels like it's

2338
01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:31,520
Speaker 2: gaining a little bit more likes, and I think that

2339
01:59:31,640 --> 01:59:33,960
Speaker 2: makes it interesting to watch as we uh, as we

2340
01:59:34,120 --> 01:59:35,960
Speaker 2: move forward into the NFL office.

2341
01:59:36,200 --> 01:59:39,160
Speaker 3: And what I don't quite understand about it, like geographically,

2342
01:59:39,320 --> 01:59:41,800
Speaker 3: how many of the fans in Northern Indiana and that

2343
01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:46,000
Speaker 3: specific area are Bears fans, how many of them are

2344
01:59:46,080 --> 01:59:48,520
Speaker 3: Colts fans, how many of them don't give a damn

2345
01:59:48,520 --> 01:59:51,680
Speaker 3: about either? In our Notre Dame fans, I think so

2346
01:59:51,880 --> 01:59:55,320
Speaker 3: much of like the Chicago land area is the area

2347
01:59:55,680 --> 01:59:59,760
Speaker 3: obviously because of the geographic way it's set up. The

2348
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:03,080
Speaker 3: there he a west of Chicago and north of Chicago.

2349
02:00:03,640 --> 02:00:07,120
Speaker 3: You're making it harder for those people to get the games. Yeah,

2350
02:00:07,120 --> 02:00:08,840
Speaker 3: I think it's uh. I think it's gonna be very

2351
02:00:08,880 --> 02:00:12,800
Speaker 3: interesting going forward. Second period coming to an end, And

2352
02:00:13,040 --> 02:00:15,000
Speaker 3: I don't play football on the South side of Chicago,

2353
02:00:15,000 --> 02:00:17,800
Speaker 3: I'll take you that much. Played different games over there.

2354
02:00:17,680 --> 02:00:20,760
Speaker 2: Ain't no different there, not Mulaga. We'll have a twy

2355
02:00:20,840 --> 02:00:23,240
Speaker 2: touch and go and then we'll get to Mulwagar still ahead.

2356
02:00:23,280 --> 02:00:25,400
Speaker 2: Since he three to sixty on ESPN fifteen to thirty

2357
02:00:25,440 --> 02:00:26,160
Speaker 2: cent anati.

2358
02:00:25,880 --> 02:00:30,360
Speaker 3: Sports station, here's an important tip. Did you see what

2359
02:00:30,480 --> 02:00:32,120
Speaker 3: Brad Underwood said last night?

2360
02:00:32,200 --> 02:00:32,600
Speaker 4: What did he do?

2361
02:00:33,960 --> 02:00:38,840
Speaker 3: I mean it kind of feels like a shot at

2362
02:00:38,920 --> 02:00:42,600
Speaker 3: mc cronin. Perhaps, Oh they played mccronin next. Brad Underwood,

2363
02:00:42,800 --> 02:00:46,800
Speaker 3: the coach of Illinois, was asked about you know, travel

2364
02:00:47,160 --> 02:00:50,320
Speaker 3: sure and all that. He said, I don't worry about

2365
02:00:50,320 --> 02:00:54,240
Speaker 3: the trips. We're spoiled. We charter, we have great food,

2366
02:00:54,360 --> 02:00:57,680
Speaker 3: we stay in nice places. It's really not that hard.

2367
02:00:58,120 --> 02:01:00,520
Speaker 3: We just got to show up and play. Love it,

2368
02:01:00,960 --> 02:01:02,200
Speaker 3: Brad Underwood, I love it.

2369
02:01:02,360 --> 02:01:05,160
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, it is true. It's not like they're

2370
02:01:05,200 --> 02:01:07,960
Speaker 2: crammed in the middle aisle seats on airplanes. Correct, And

2371
02:01:08,080 --> 02:01:10,320
Speaker 2: it's not like they're not taking care of on the road.

2372
02:01:11,320 --> 02:01:14,920
Speaker 2: They're not staying you know, at the roadway in no

2373
02:01:15,000 --> 02:01:16,680
Speaker 2: offense to the roadway in If they want to sponsor

2374
02:01:16,720 --> 02:01:18,080
Speaker 2: any segment of the show, we'd love to have them,

2375
02:01:19,400 --> 02:01:21,040
Speaker 2: but they're traveling and they're put up.

2376
02:01:21,080 --> 02:01:24,640
Speaker 3: Well, oh man, you got to pick your battles. Good

2377
02:01:24,680 --> 02:01:27,680
Speaker 3: for Brad Underwood. I saw people quote tweeting that with

2378
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Speaker 3: did you just raise your voice at me to make crowded?

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 2: I love where we're atting sports, the Crone Zone, the

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Speaker 2: Crone Zone, the Agger Zone is next. Mo Agger standing

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Speaker 2: by for quick hits on the Home of the Bengals,

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 11: Now it's time for quick hits on Tony Tykes. Since

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Speaker 11: three sixty was looking for Mo, we got.

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Speaker 2: Mo's quick hits ahead of The Molegger Show on ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. What's happened to Mone What

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Speaker 2: you got on the show today?

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Speaker 13: Well, we're gonna talk about Hunter Green, which is probably

2390
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Speaker 13: no surprise to anybody, But we're gonna go back to

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Speaker 13: Hunter Green's comments the other day because I think they matter,

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Speaker 13: and I think what happened to Hunter Green last year matters,

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Speaker 13: and I think if you understand what the Reds are

2394
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Speaker 13: trying to do, then you really have to think about

2395
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Speaker 13: what happened last year with Hunter Green. I'm sure what

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Speaker 13: I'm saying right now, is making people go huh, but

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Speaker 13: hopefully they're going huh. I can't wait to hear what

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Speaker 13: he means coming up at three TOHO five. I've been

2399
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Speaker 13: thinking a lot about mid Cronin, so we talked about

2400
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Speaker 13: his postgame comments the other night after UCLA got destroyed

2401
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Speaker 13: by Michigan State. Is there a group of people in

2402
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Speaker 13: the United States of America who have collectively lost grip

2403
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Speaker 13: of control more than college basketball coaches. I want to

2404
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Speaker 13: spend some time on that so well, Chad Brendle's gonna

2405
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Speaker 13: join us to talk some UC basketball. The Bearcats play

2406
02:03:04,440 --> 02:03:08,720
Speaker 13: Kansas on Saturday. The Bearcats have won three consecutive games.

2407
02:03:08,800 --> 02:03:10,440
Speaker 13: Can they make it for? Can they make it five?

2408
02:03:10,760 --> 02:03:13,560
Speaker 13: Can they run the table? And Devin Kerr from an

2409
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Speaker 13: MLS season pass on Apple TV will talk some FC Cincinnati.

2410
02:03:17,400 --> 02:03:19,720
Speaker 13: But before we get to some of the quick hits,

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02:03:20,240 --> 02:03:22,560
Speaker 13: I want to share with you guys, and I think

2412
02:03:22,640 --> 02:03:25,839
Speaker 13: Tony Frankly specifically a little bit more you an interaction

2413
02:03:25,960 --> 02:03:27,960
Speaker 13: that I was part of last night.

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02:03:28,160 --> 02:03:28,480
Speaker 3: Please.

2415
02:03:29,880 --> 02:03:31,440
Speaker 13: So I went to the NKU game.

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02:03:31,600 --> 02:03:32,960
Speaker 3: Yes, and the.

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02:03:33,000 --> 02:03:36,880
Speaker 13: Norris won last night, very good offensive performance beat Perdue

2418
02:03:36,960 --> 02:03:41,200
Speaker 13: Fort Wayne. The Horizon League tournament formats a little goofy,

2419
02:03:41,280 --> 02:03:43,680
Speaker 13: and so it's imperative that you finish in the top

2420
02:03:43,760 --> 02:03:46,240
Speaker 13: five so you can get a home game. And the

2421
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Speaker 13: Norris have some work to do. They have some tough

2422
02:03:48,000 --> 02:03:50,160
Speaker 13: games in front of them, but they played well last night.

2423
02:03:50,600 --> 02:03:53,720
Speaker 13: But it's interesting. At halftime, I'm just kind of minding

2424
02:03:53,760 --> 02:03:57,400
Speaker 13: my own business, waiting to get a beer. And I

2425
02:03:57,480 --> 02:04:00,240
Speaker 13: don't know if you know Christina Roibal, she's the the

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02:04:00,320 --> 02:04:03,000
Speaker 13: athletic director at NKAU And she comes up to me,

2427
02:04:03,040 --> 02:04:04,960
Speaker 13: and I didn't know she knew who I was. I've

2428
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Speaker 13: had her on the show. Comes up to me and says,

2429
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Speaker 13: can I can I talk to you for a second?

2430
02:04:08,760 --> 02:04:10,320
Speaker 13: I said yeah. She goes, well, actually, can we just

2431
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Speaker 13: sort of duck over here away from people and made

2432
02:04:14,120 --> 02:04:16,520
Speaker 13: small talk for a few minutes. And I'm kind of like, like,

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Speaker 13: all right, what do you want?

2434
02:04:17,560 --> 02:04:18,120
Speaker 4: Like what do you need?

2435
02:04:18,160 --> 02:04:20,080
Speaker 13: Did I do something that I say something? And she goes,

2436
02:04:20,120 --> 02:04:22,600
Speaker 13: can I can I ask you a question? And I

2437
02:04:22,680 --> 02:04:24,760
Speaker 13: thought maybe there was gonna be like a personal question,

2438
02:04:24,880 --> 02:04:26,720
Speaker 13: and I go, yeah, whatever whatever you need and she

2439
02:04:26,840 --> 02:04:33,920
Speaker 13: goes Austin Elmore, did did he really go here? And

2440
02:04:34,080 --> 02:04:37,520
Speaker 13: I said, like, you know, I've never seen a transcript

2441
02:04:37,840 --> 02:04:40,000
Speaker 13: he says he has. I believe him. There's no reason

2442
02:04:40,040 --> 02:04:42,200
Speaker 13: for me not to. And I go, you know, why

2443
02:04:42,200 --> 02:04:44,839
Speaker 13: don't you go to the bursar's office so check in missions?

2444
02:04:44,880 --> 02:04:47,840
Speaker 13: I mean surely they have and athletics. They're not allowed

2445
02:04:47,840 --> 02:04:50,600
Speaker 13: to do that. And so I just thought it was weird.

2446
02:04:50,960 --> 02:04:53,200
Speaker 13: And if you remember the last game that I went to,

2447
02:04:53,360 --> 02:04:56,160
Speaker 13: Darren Horne as to me why Austin hates him? So

2448
02:04:56,280 --> 02:04:59,480
Speaker 13: there's something weird going on, Tony, and on your Guys show,

2449
02:04:59,600 --> 02:05:01,360
Speaker 13: maybe you should the two of you.

2450
02:05:01,440 --> 02:05:03,120
Speaker 3: Get to the bottom up. Well, this was asked today.

2451
02:05:03,120 --> 02:05:04,720
Speaker 2: We had Rick Brewing on the show today and he

2452
02:05:04,800 --> 02:05:06,760
Speaker 2: actually brought it up and kind of put the bats

2453
02:05:06,760 --> 02:05:09,560
Speaker 2: signal out as well and said, you know, where is Austin.

2454
02:05:09,600 --> 02:05:14,800
Speaker 2: Where has Austin been last night? Meaningful game at Truest Arena? Uh,

2455
02:05:16,120 --> 02:05:19,280
Speaker 2: where's Austin? Where's Austin been this year? Where has Austin

2456
02:05:19,360 --> 02:05:24,080
Speaker 2: been going forward? It is it's it's becoming a question.

2457
02:05:24,200 --> 02:05:27,560
Speaker 2: And the whispers have gotten louder around Truest Arena and

2458
02:05:27,680 --> 02:05:30,200
Speaker 2: in Northern Kentucky University and is you know, I.

2459
02:05:30,360 --> 02:05:32,880
Speaker 13: Like to go to games and and I feel uncomfortable,

2460
02:05:32,920 --> 02:05:36,360
Speaker 13: like I'm not responsible I have to take Why do

2461
02:05:36,520 --> 02:05:37,880
Speaker 13: I have to be Austin's meat shield?

2462
02:05:38,040 --> 02:05:42,440
Speaker 3: Like what I association? These people have my number, they

2463
02:05:42,480 --> 02:05:43,680
Speaker 3: could reach out to me directly.

2464
02:05:44,280 --> 02:05:47,120
Speaker 13: So what I was told was, and I'm.

2465
02:05:49,080 --> 02:05:50,000
Speaker 3: That's a hard position for me.

2466
02:05:50,040 --> 02:05:53,920
Speaker 13: I was told was, look, Horizon Lely tournaments coming up. Yeah,

2467
02:05:54,400 --> 02:05:56,680
Speaker 13: we think we've got a chance. League is wide open.

2468
02:05:57,440 --> 02:05:59,960
Speaker 13: We we suspect if we do well in it, Austin

2469
02:06:00,040 --> 02:06:02,560
Speaker 13: and we'll start talking about how like, you know, you

2470
02:06:02,880 --> 02:06:04,920
Speaker 13: can't get in the way of NKU in March. This

2471
02:06:05,120 --> 02:06:07,680
Speaker 13: is what we do. And they're like, you know, we'd

2472
02:06:07,760 --> 02:06:10,400
Speaker 13: rather he not if he's not really gonna, you know,

2473
02:06:10,520 --> 02:06:15,960
Speaker 13: support the program. Look, I'm just I'm like, look, hey,

2474
02:06:16,480 --> 02:06:19,880
Speaker 13: I got it. I'll pass it on. I'm just trying

2475
02:06:19,920 --> 02:06:22,440
Speaker 13: to watch the game. Sorry, I can't be responsible for

2476
02:06:22,520 --> 02:06:24,800
Speaker 13: who's not here. I just thought it was weird, and

2477
02:06:25,640 --> 02:06:28,600
Speaker 13: I just I'm here to repair what appears to be

2478
02:06:28,680 --> 02:06:29,800
Speaker 13: a broken relationship.

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Speaker 4: That's it.

2480
02:06:30,720 --> 02:06:33,680
Speaker 3: That's all well said. Uh, we'll leave the ball in

2481
02:06:33,720 --> 02:06:38,920
Speaker 3: Austin's court at this point. One up to me this

2482
02:06:39,200 --> 02:06:39,680
Speaker 3: entire time.

2483
02:06:39,800 --> 02:06:43,000
Speaker 13: Really, it's got folks at NKU who just I don't know.

2484
02:06:43,240 --> 02:06:46,240
Speaker 13: I mean, I just they're probably in the admissions office

2485
02:06:46,320 --> 02:06:48,480
Speaker 13: right now, like calmbing through files to see if like

2486
02:06:48,520 --> 02:06:51,640
Speaker 13: there's a real transcript or something. There was one one

2487
02:06:51,680 --> 02:06:53,160
Speaker 13: would make that up, But there you go.

2488
02:06:53,360 --> 02:06:55,640
Speaker 2: There was one point in my life where I legitimately

2489
02:06:55,720 --> 02:06:58,440
Speaker 2: thought Austin was the biggest NKU fan I've ever met.

2490
02:06:59,360 --> 02:07:01,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was one point in my life where I

2491
02:07:01,600 --> 02:07:05,720
Speaker 3: feel like I was What happened? Yeah, life happens. Sometimes

2492
02:07:05,800 --> 02:07:08,640
Speaker 3: you don't be Sometimes you can't put as much time

2493
02:07:08,720 --> 02:07:12,200
Speaker 3: and effort and energy into a relationship and the relationship suffers.

2494
02:07:12,640 --> 02:07:14,960
Speaker 3: It's not that they've done anything wrong. It's all on me.

2495
02:07:15,200 --> 02:07:17,400
Speaker 13: How many how many mock drafts have you done in

2496
02:07:17,400 --> 02:07:21,920
Speaker 13: the couple of weeks? H like three? Life gets in

2497
02:07:22,000 --> 02:07:26,480
Speaker 13: the way it does mater it does sometimes, you know,

2498
02:07:26,640 --> 02:07:29,400
Speaker 13: sometimes you cross out that list, and sometimes you can't

2499
02:07:29,560 --> 02:07:31,800
Speaker 13: just put it in the can and head down there early.

2500
02:07:31,920 --> 02:07:35,160
Speaker 3: Sometimes you gotta stick around to the end and got

2501
02:07:35,240 --> 02:07:38,800
Speaker 3: a challenge. Yeah, it's true. Do my mock draft.

2502
02:07:43,640 --> 02:07:45,400
Speaker 2: Be remiss mode? Not to ask you, and I'm sure

2503
02:07:45,440 --> 02:07:48,280
Speaker 2: you'll talk about it. What do you make of Darren

2504
02:07:48,320 --> 02:07:49,640
Speaker 2: Peterson right now in Kansas?

2505
02:07:51,600 --> 02:07:56,080
Speaker 13: Weird man weird and a huge red flag? Like, how

2506
02:07:56,200 --> 02:07:58,440
Speaker 13: do you not question his competitiveness.

2507
02:07:58,560 --> 02:07:59,000
Speaker 6: That's the thing.

2508
02:07:59,080 --> 02:08:01,800
Speaker 2: Regardless of what you're old. When the game starts, does

2509
02:08:01,840 --> 02:08:03,400
Speaker 2: the competitives not take over?

2510
02:08:04,880 --> 02:08:05,080
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2511
02:08:05,160 --> 02:08:07,440
Speaker 13: And like I've talked about this a lot with again

2512
02:08:07,560 --> 02:08:10,440
Speaker 13: Hunter Green, Like I defer to the athlete. Athlete knows

2513
02:08:10,520 --> 02:08:13,960
Speaker 13: his or her body. But there's something about this that

2514
02:08:14,040 --> 02:08:17,240
Speaker 13: I'm sorry you can't help, but wonder, Like I go

2515
02:08:17,440 --> 02:08:20,520
Speaker 13: back to that game that they played against Arizona at

2516
02:08:20,560 --> 02:08:23,960
Speaker 13: home that they won, and it's like, if you're a

2517
02:08:24,080 --> 02:08:28,280
Speaker 13: college basketball player, don't you dream of playing in games

2518
02:08:28,360 --> 02:08:28,560
Speaker 13: like that?

2519
02:08:28,800 --> 02:08:29,000
Speaker 4: Yep?

2520
02:08:29,400 --> 02:08:32,680
Speaker 13: Like don't don't. Don't you work your ass off to

2521
02:08:32,760 --> 02:08:34,240
Speaker 13: get to that point so you could play at that

2522
02:08:34,400 --> 02:08:37,880
Speaker 13: level and compete on stages like that and in games

2523
02:08:38,040 --> 02:08:40,920
Speaker 13: like that. And so what happened the other night where

2524
02:08:41,000 --> 02:08:44,080
Speaker 13: he takes a shot and he appears to say something

2525
02:08:44,120 --> 02:08:47,800
Speaker 13: to his coach and like, take your cues from Bill self, Yeah,

2526
02:08:47,840 --> 02:08:50,040
Speaker 13: because sometimes it's not what you say, it's it's how

2527
02:08:50,080 --> 02:08:53,080
Speaker 13: you behave while you're saying what you say. There's something

2528
02:08:53,120 --> 02:08:56,960
Speaker 13: about his body language that suggests there's an Austin Elmore

2529
02:08:57,200 --> 02:09:02,960
Speaker 13: Nku style disconnect. I mean, Kansas, great point, Daron Peterson,

2530
02:09:03,080 --> 02:09:05,560
Speaker 13: But what I would say to Darren Peterson is take

2531
02:09:05,600 --> 02:09:06,160
Speaker 13: your time.

2532
02:09:06,280 --> 02:09:08,160
Speaker 3: Relax, do what you got to do it. If it

2533
02:09:08,240 --> 02:09:10,440
Speaker 3: isn't a groin or a hamstring, don't rush back.

2534
02:09:11,560 --> 02:09:14,280
Speaker 13: Yeah, whatever it is, like, take the weekend off, just

2535
02:09:14,360 --> 02:09:17,760
Speaker 13: take take some time this weekend and maybe grab Florie

2536
02:09:17,800 --> 02:09:19,680
Speaker 13: but Dungain going like a guy's trip for the weekend

2537
02:09:19,800 --> 02:09:23,160
Speaker 13: or something. Yeah, just do you guys, do what you

2538
02:09:23,240 --> 02:09:23,600
Speaker 13: gotta do.

2539
02:09:23,800 --> 02:09:24,000
Speaker 6: Yep.

2540
02:09:24,280 --> 02:09:26,560
Speaker 2: And and if I'm Bill self, I say, come back

2541
02:09:26,840 --> 02:09:29,520
Speaker 2: Sunday night ready to get ready to play for against Houston.

2542
02:09:30,560 --> 02:09:30,760
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2543
02:09:30,960 --> 02:09:34,480
Speaker 13: Oh, and then sort of monitor where things might be

2544
02:09:34,640 --> 02:09:37,840
Speaker 13: in like the Big twelve tournament, depending on who you play, yep.

2545
02:09:38,200 --> 02:09:40,680
Speaker 13: And depending on what the stakes are, maybe make a

2546
02:09:40,720 --> 02:09:41,520
Speaker 13: game time decision.

2547
02:09:41,600 --> 02:09:43,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, see what you can get away with. Uh, I

2548
02:09:43,920 --> 02:09:46,000
Speaker 3: do have to ask. I brought this up briefly today.

2549
02:09:46,040 --> 02:09:50,400
Speaker 2: Fangrafts throughout their twenty twenty six projections for the playoffs

2550
02:09:51,120 --> 02:09:53,880
Speaker 2: and in the National League, they have the Reds MO

2551
02:09:54,120 --> 02:09:57,120
Speaker 2: only higher than the Cardinals, Marlins, Nationals, and Rockies. And

2552
02:09:57,200 --> 02:10:00,280
Speaker 2: what I thought was more interesting, they have the Reds

2553
02:10:00,280 --> 02:10:02,560
Speaker 2: at a twenty point three percent chance to make the playoffs.

2554
02:10:03,000 --> 02:10:06,760
Speaker 2: They put the Pirates number at forty three percent. To

2555
02:10:06,880 --> 02:10:09,200
Speaker 2: make the playoffs. Are we sleeping a little bit on

2556
02:10:09,200 --> 02:10:11,080
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Pirates And do you think that number is

2557
02:10:11,160 --> 02:10:12,000
Speaker 2: too low for the Reds.

2558
02:10:13,960 --> 02:10:15,680
Speaker 13: I think the number's about right, like one out of

2559
02:10:15,720 --> 02:10:19,320
Speaker 13: every five times. Yeah, I mean like it's it's not

2560
02:10:19,480 --> 02:10:21,640
Speaker 13: like they made the playoffs by a lot last year.

2561
02:10:22,440 --> 02:10:25,160
Speaker 13: They needed an end of season collapse by the New

2562
02:10:25,240 --> 02:10:28,120
Speaker 13: York Mets, and they needed help after they lost Game

2563
02:10:28,200 --> 02:10:31,440
Speaker 13: one sixty two in order to sneak into the playoffs

2564
02:10:32,000 --> 02:10:34,120
Speaker 13: with the six best record of the National League. So

2565
02:10:34,200 --> 02:10:35,600
Speaker 13: it's it's not like we're talking about a team that

2566
02:10:35,640 --> 02:10:37,040
Speaker 13: won ninety nine games last season.

2567
02:10:37,200 --> 02:10:38,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the Pirate.

2568
02:10:38,480 --> 02:10:40,440
Speaker 13: I think the Pirates are interesting because there's a there's

2569
02:10:40,440 --> 02:10:43,200
Speaker 13: a part of me that feels like they're a version

2570
02:10:43,240 --> 02:10:47,200
Speaker 13: of last year's Reds team. Right, really good starting pitching.

2571
02:10:47,320 --> 02:10:52,240
Speaker 13: You wonder have they done enough offensively? But yeah, like

2572
02:10:52,320 --> 02:10:54,400
Speaker 13: the consensus is, and I get it, they've been active

2573
02:10:54,440 --> 02:10:58,400
Speaker 13: this offseason. They they feel like they are to be

2574
02:10:58,560 --> 02:11:02,520
Speaker 13: taken seriously in this division. I think what's happened with

2575
02:11:02,560 --> 02:11:05,400
Speaker 13: the Reds. I think the floor has been raised, Like

2576
02:11:05,640 --> 02:11:08,240
Speaker 13: I think it would be stunning if they lost ninety games.

2577
02:11:09,200 --> 02:11:11,480
Speaker 13: I think it would be stunning if they won more

2578
02:11:11,520 --> 02:11:14,920
Speaker 13: than ninety games. Anything else in that window I think

2579
02:11:15,240 --> 02:11:17,800
Speaker 13: is fair game. I think the interesting thing for me

2580
02:11:18,000 --> 02:11:20,960
Speaker 13: is how many one run games do they play? Last

2581
02:11:21,040 --> 02:11:23,800
Speaker 13: year forty four one run games. They were twenty two

2582
02:11:23,840 --> 02:11:27,560
Speaker 13: and twenty two. My guess is they're either significantly better

2583
02:11:27,720 --> 02:11:31,160
Speaker 13: or significantly worse. But do they play in the same

2584
02:11:31,280 --> 02:11:33,480
Speaker 13: number of one run games? How are they in extra

2585
02:11:33,600 --> 02:11:35,760
Speaker 13: inning games? They were three and twelve last year. I

2586
02:11:35,840 --> 02:11:39,200
Speaker 13: believe it was uncanny how and frequently they scored in

2587
02:11:39,360 --> 02:11:41,720
Speaker 13: extra innings, especially given the fact that you start extra

2588
02:11:41,760 --> 02:11:45,800
Speaker 13: innings with the stupid magic runner on second base. I

2589
02:11:46,680 --> 02:11:49,200
Speaker 13: want to believe this can be a playoff team, but

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Speaker 13: I don't know. Like we talked about with the guy

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Speaker 13: that was on the show on Tuesday, like he did

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Speaker 13: a betting segment and that was like, here's some data

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Speaker 13: to make your bet. Would you bet on the Reds

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Speaker 13: to win the division this year and feel good about it?

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Speaker 23: No?

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Speaker 13: Right, Like you might do it emotionally. I bet on

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Speaker 13: him to hit the over every year, just because I

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Speaker 13: want to root for something in September. But like, there

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Speaker 13: are still so many unknown variables. It's like, well, if

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Speaker 13: Matt McClain is the player he was in twenty twenty three. Cool.

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Speaker 13: If Eugenio Soarez can provide the ancillary effect that his

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Speaker 13: bet in the middle of the lineup is supposed to provide.

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Speaker 13: If Sal Stewart ends up having a Rookie of the

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Speaker 13: Year type season, if Ellie Dela Cruz takes a major

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Speaker 13: step forward, if all the starting pitchers stay healthy. Like,

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Speaker 13: each of those things can happen, but I feel like

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Speaker 13: for this team to sail into the postseason, all of

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Speaker 13: those things can happen, are going to have to happen.

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Speaker 13: And there's a big difference between each and all.

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Speaker 5: There is.

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Speaker 13: That is, if you've like I was on nku's campus

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Speaker 13: last night, that doesn't mean I went there, right, Like

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Speaker 13: are we are we confusing? Like, Hey, i's campus a

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Speaker 13: few times, so I was a student there, Like I've

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Speaker 13: been on UC's campus a lot, but I didn't. I didn't,

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Speaker 13: you know, go to school there. And I just wonder

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Speaker 13: if that's sort of being lost in translation.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to see my student loans?

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Speaker 4: Oh no, I don't.

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Speaker 13: Unfortunately you know what school I went to. I know

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Speaker 13: you I know, I know you know. That's why I said,

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Speaker 13: have I ever tried to pay off a UDI student alone.

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Speaker 13: Good God, what are we doing?

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Speaker 2: The Flyers won last night, though I did beat it up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah me, have a great show. We'll talk, We'll talk

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Speaker 2: again tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: I'll do my best thing. That is mulagger.

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Speaker 2: This has been since he three sixty. You have a

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Speaker 2: great rest of your Thursday afternoon. Thanks for listening on

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