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Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI A six forty on demand. Chris,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Excuse me, that is you, Chris?

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Speaker 1: How can I help you?

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Speaker 2: Okay? So this is my question. What is the Bible's

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Speaker 2: position on a marriage in which the husband completely rejects

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Speaker 2: and insists that his wife sever her relationships with her parents,

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Speaker 2: her siblings, and her children from a previous marriage. The

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Speaker 2: husband insists that his wife make a choice between him

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Speaker 2: and the three small children that they have to gather,

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Speaker 2: or her children from a previous marriage and her extended family.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, on the surface, it sounds so incredibly horrible

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Speaker 1: that the decision seems easy. However, there's always more to

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Speaker 1: a story, is that What is his reasoning for not

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Speaker 1: wanting your children from another marriage? Are they older children?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: They are?

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Speaker 1: How old are they?

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Speaker 2: They are eighteen and twenty two?

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Speaker 1: Are they? And are they boys?

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Speaker 4: Boy?

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Speaker 2: And a girl?

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Speaker 1: Boy and a girl? And your children with this new husband,

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Speaker 1: they're young, you.

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Speaker 2: Say, yeah, the very young toddlers.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And what is their sex and age?

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Speaker 2: And we've got twins that are flour and a five

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 4: And oh I'm.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, and the twins are boy girl, and then the

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Speaker 1: Okay, now, what is his reasoning for not wanting the

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Speaker 1: the adult or older children in the home.

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Speaker 2: Well, it sort of goes back to my divorce from

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Speaker 2: my previous husband, and the previous husband and the current

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Speaker 2: husband really very deeply dislike each other, and so it's

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Speaker 2: all really stemmed from that. So my current husband just

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Speaker 2: throws my two older children into the same you know

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Speaker 2: category with the ex the ex husband, because they're all,

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Speaker 2: you know, my children are friend my ex husband. So

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Speaker 2: he just for that reason, he just hates their dad

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Speaker 2: and wants nothing to do with them.

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Speaker 1: And so, okay, unfortunately he's not here to make his case.

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Speaker 1: But as you've presented it, you know, obviously you come

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Speaker 1: with your own baggage into this relationship. That's what happens

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Speaker 1: when there's divorce and remarriage, and divorce and remarriage and

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Speaker 1: these types of things, that there's split families and with

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Speaker 1: you come your parents and and your previous children. So

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Speaker 1: if there are issues, the man or woman of the

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Speaker 1: lines if there's issues about if your parents don't respect

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Speaker 1: him in his home. He absolutely has the right to

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Speaker 1: say they're not coming in here anymore. And if there's issues,

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Speaker 1: the same way you would because it's about your home

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Speaker 1: and protecting one another. He absolutely has that right. You

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Speaker 1: absolutely have that right. If his parents didn't respect you

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Speaker 1: was someone causing you harm, even if it was his

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Speaker 1: not causing you harm and yours aren't causing his harm,

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Speaker 1: then it's a power trip of some kind which is

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Speaker 1: get into. When it comes to your kids. However, as

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Speaker 1: long as that the adult kids are not causing any

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Speaker 1: harm on your your little.

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Speaker 2: Babies, of course they love them and they.

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Speaker 1: Care for them, then it's incredibly selfish and ugly to

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Speaker 1: So for whatever reason, when you guys initially got married,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were. They were, and it started out okay,

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Speaker 2: and he was nice to them, but over time, you know,

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Speaker 2: my new husband, and at some point my new husband

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Speaker 2: just said, I want nothing to do with them, and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, he's taking the easy way out. It sounds like,

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Speaker 1: that would would change it, but from what you've told me,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing I see where there's it's a protection issue

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Speaker 2: He refuses to do that.

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Speaker 1: If you won't, if you can't have any of that discussion,

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Speaker 1: if you can't have any of that connection, you're at

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Speaker 1: a loss. You picked, you picked a bad guy, and

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Speaker 1: you chose to have children with him. Yeah, that's what

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Speaker 1: it comes down to. If that's the case, and he

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Speaker 1: hurts his feelings or what he's got to uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: Then then you pick you picked the bad guy, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: you have to decide how that fits in your life

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Speaker 1: and uh, and what's important. But you chose him not

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Speaker 1: to your children and uh and you have to, you know,

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Speaker 1: reconcile with that fact and figure out how to make

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Speaker 1: this work in its current context. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for taking the time to join me today, and remember,

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Speaker 1: more importantly all this craziness. I am with you always, John,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.

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Speaker 5: Good morning.

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Speaker 1: How are you John, I'm very well, Thank you. How

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Speaker 1: can I help you?

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Speaker 2: My question is in regard cards to the correct interpretation

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Speaker 2: of tithing slash giving in the New Testament.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, the New Testament doesn't talk about tithing per se. Now,

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Speaker 1: the Old Testament does, and a lot of references that

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Speaker 1: It's important to give. However, I never in any part

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Speaker 1: of the New Testament commanded my disciples to tithe. Now,

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Speaker 1: specific comments or anything concerning Christian tithing. But the early

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Speaker 1: You can find that in First Corinthians sixteen one and two,

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Speaker 1: going to find necessarily the Christians are commanded to give

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Speaker 1: They're called to be a living sacrifice and to give

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Speaker 1: So the tithe is just kind of a word that

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Speaker 1: churches use to explain the fact that if you're going

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Speaker 1: You should be giving back to your church, that's your community.

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Speaker 1: But you should be doing it freely. If ten percent

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Speaker 1: tithe of the Old Testament tie tithe was more of

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Speaker 1: is just stealing that. That's pretty clear in scripture.

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Speaker 6: So I agree with that completely.

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Speaker 1: So it's just not people say tithe. Nowadays. Pastors mistakenly

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Speaker 1: say tithe, but what they really mean is to just

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Speaker 6: Tithing can be restrictive.

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Speaker 1: It can also Yeah, some people say, well only ten

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Speaker 6: Amen. Thank you very much for your answer.

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Speaker 1: You're welcome, John. And I know that's one of those

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Speaker 1: just money can be yucky. It just can. It can

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Speaker 1: But here's the deal. It's about giving to God for

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Speaker 1: part of it. If you're going to be a part

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Speaker 1: sure you give time. A good rule of thumb for

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Speaker 1: today or for the Christian Church specifically, that when you give,

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Speaker 1: be consistent in your giving. If you do give ten percent.

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Speaker 1: If that's what God puts on your heart, great, but

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Speaker 1: be consistent to the best of your ability. Continually give

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Speaker 1: that ten percent. Because what happens is the church has

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Speaker 1: it can be a huge problem for the church to

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Speaker 1: keep their own finances in check. Steve, Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Jesus Christ Show. Oh hello, Hi Steve, how can I

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Speaker 4: Well, my question is where my wife what considers or

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: so it was like often considered like hidden knowledge or

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Speaker 1: things like that. They became quite popular, but really some

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Speaker 1: are even attributed to me writing them, Thomas writing them,

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Speaker 1: and like, and really they're not. The historical value of

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Speaker 1: the books are just not there. They do bibliographical tests,

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Speaker 1: and these are tests that check the veracity of the

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Speaker 1: time in which it was written, the author, who's who

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Speaker 1: claims to have written it, and so on, continuity with

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Speaker 1: other writings of that time, with each other, these types

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Speaker 1: of things, and they just don't match up. So it

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that they're horrible books or anything. They're just

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Speaker 1: not put on the par of scripture. So you can

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Speaker 1: read them if you're curious, you want to do your studies,

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Speaker 1: I would just suggest that you, you know, read and

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Speaker 1: study scripture first and then these things second. But they

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Speaker 1: are interesting in some sense, and there are I know

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Speaker 1: a lot of people make a lot out of them,

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Speaker 1: but the only reason why is because they're the new

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Speaker 1: kids on the block in the scheme of things. It's like, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: you know you've already read scripture, or maybe you haven't,

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Speaker 1: but now there's this new thing. But really nothing comes

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Speaker 1: of it. There's no special hidden knowledge or anything like

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Speaker 1: that in them.

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Speaker 5: KFI A six on demand