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Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.

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Speaker 2: Okay, if I am six forty, I'm Andy Reesmeyer. We're

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Speaker 2: live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app but also on the

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Speaker 2: radio and one oh three point five HD two. Nobody

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Speaker 2: ever talks about that. That's the red headed step child.

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Speaker 2: You can also get us on your HD radio in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Neil's the Niel Savage is the only

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Speaker 3: one that uh calls that one out every single that's

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Speaker 3: his lockout. His lockout is everywhere on the radio app

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Speaker 3: in HD two, Los Angeles, Orange County. Oh, he does

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Speaker 3: the he does like the guy. The whole thing is

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Speaker 3: the full thing. I think you're the only one that does,

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Speaker 3: you know what.

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Speaker 2: But it's good listen if anybody is set in the

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Speaker 2: tone a creative director of the station, if you will,

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Speaker 2: I've been here for long enough. Nil Savadris is one

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Speaker 2: of the one of the guys. Now you think due,

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Speaker 2: I mean, he did so much for this. I mean

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Speaker 2: he's done so much in the stage. I'm saying, this

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Speaker 2: is the guy. He got to keep up that brand,

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Speaker 2: you know, one oh three point five HD two Los Angeles,

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Speaker 2: of what we did. We don't really do that as much.

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Speaker 2: The hosts don't do it as much. I still hear it.

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Speaker 2: But there's a little sign beneath on the desk over

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Speaker 2: here that says I am six forty life everywhere on

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Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app, and I honestly don't if they got

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Speaker 2: rid of that, I don't know how I would do

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Speaker 2: this job. I couldn't start. That's just the way it is.

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Speaker 2: I want to go back to the Palisades. We were

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Speaker 2: talking about some of the developments, some of the lack

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Speaker 2: of developments in the Palisades. Over the last year. It's

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Speaker 2: been nearly thirteen months. Seven thousand homes were destroyed. Fewer

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Speaker 2: than a dozen have been fully rebuilt. There are between

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Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty four hundred under construction. Twenty six

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Speaker 2: hundred building permits have been issued across the region now

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Speaker 2: that I guess also includes the Eat and Fire area

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Speaker 2: of the of Altadena. The fraction of homeowners have begun construction.

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Speaker 2: There's so many reasons for why, whether it's approvals from

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Speaker 2: the city. We told your story yesterday about how a

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Speaker 2: homeowner in the Palisades was asked by the LEDWP to

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Speaker 2: foot the bill for a thirty five thousand dollars fire hydrant,

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Speaker 2: which feels like almost a cruel, sick joke. It ended

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Speaker 2: up after there's some conversation with a councilwoman and I

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Speaker 2: think ABC seven, which is a television station in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 2: that LEDWP did end up covering it. But there's all

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Speaker 2: kinds of things that are keeping the city the residents

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Speaker 2: from being able to move forward.

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Speaker 4: A highly anticipated rebuilding roadmap for fire devastated Pacific Palisades

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Speaker 4: now considered weeks overdue.

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Speaker 5: Report was due back in mid November.

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Speaker 2: I think you could not even say weeks. You say

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Speaker 2: months now because it's February. Weeks is like January. If

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Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I haven't seen you in weeks,

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Speaker 2: I'd be like, January tenth is the limit on that one?

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Speaker 2: Mid November brother before Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 5: To the Mayor's office, and now I don't know where

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Speaker 5: it is.

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Speaker 4: In June, Mayor Bass announced the city had hired ae COM,

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Speaker 4: tasked with designing new infrastructure, stronger fire protection, and updated

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Speaker 4: evacuation routes.

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Speaker 6: There's been a lot of work done, but.

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Speaker 4: After months of public meetings like this, there's still no

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Speaker 4: public report.

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Speaker 5: We're talking probably close to twenty million dollars in consultant

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Speaker 5: fees that's been paid.

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Speaker 2: This report is crucial, critical, sorry, twenty million dollars of

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Speaker 2: fees that have been paid to consultants. I know broadcast consultants,

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Speaker 2: and I know that they worth twenty million dollars worth

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Speaker 2: of nothing.

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Speaker 7: Critical, But more than anything, what's critical is that we

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Speaker 7: rebuild infrastructure properly.

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Speaker 4: Residents say they were told last week by city officials.

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Speaker 4: The documents are now sitting in the city Attorney's office.

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Speaker 7: What's the document doing with the city's attorney's office? I

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Speaker 7: can only question what could possibly require that much investigation

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Speaker 7: with a What do.

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Speaker 2: You think she's instigating there, mister Ronner.

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Speaker 6: I think I'll recuse myself from this discussion.

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Speaker 2: Well, let me just ask this then, because I think

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Speaker 2: at the City attorney's office and fairly simply send it

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Speaker 2: to whomever paid for it.

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Speaker 6: How much were the fire hydrants that you mentioned.

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Speaker 2: Thirty five thousand dollars to put in a fire hydrant?

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Speaker 6: Do you think a dog cantil the difference between ping

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Speaker 6: on a thirty five thousand dollars one in a regular one.

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Speaker 2: That's a good question. Well, the thing of all of

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Speaker 2: this is being like, you have to put in a

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Speaker 2: fire hydrant now if you want to rebuild your house.

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Speaker 2: Is insane? Oh yeah, those fire hydrants that, by the way,

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Speaker 2: ran out of money, ran out of water.

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Speaker 5: With ACoM also a consultant for RELADAP.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so let me go back. So this is what

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Speaker 2: the person in this interview is.

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Speaker 7: Saying, require that much investigation with ACoM also a consultant

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Speaker 7: for reladap.

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Speaker 5: You know, where can we trust anybody in this process?

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Speaker 7: It's scared.

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Speaker 2: So this guy and again I don't know, this is

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Speaker 2: just a person who's saying this, who's bringing up this.

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Speaker 2: This is one of those things where people are raising eyebrows.

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Speaker 2: This is like a speculative thing. There's no evidence of wrongdoing.

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Speaker 2: But ae Com, which is the consultancy firm who was

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Speaker 2: hired by the Mayor's office to do this report about

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Speaker 2: what happened in the Palisades, also works with LED. So

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Speaker 2: I guess is the conversation that this guy alluding to,

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Speaker 2: or at least the is he insinuating perhaps that the

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles Police Department, I'm sorry, the Los Angeles Department

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Speaker 2: of Power and Water, which as we know, was involved

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Speaker 2: in getting the water to the Palisades? Are are are there?

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Speaker 2: Is there a conflict of interest of sorts?

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Speaker 8: You know?

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Speaker 5: Where can we trust anybody in this process?

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Speaker 7: The scariest part for me is right before this report

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Speaker 7: was due, the leadership of a com.

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Speaker 2: Quit improved e oh what quit? Improved a comm's contract.

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Speaker 4: The November councilwoman Tracy Parks said the report would be

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Speaker 4: released in about thirty days. It's now February, more than

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Speaker 4: a year since the fire, and still no report or

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Speaker 4: plans for city infrastructure.

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Speaker 5: Six months too late. These you know, this information should

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Speaker 5: have been out there way earlier.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: By the way, this is not just like necessarily, oh,

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Speaker 2: this is what happened, and here's who to blame. A

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Speaker 2: lot of this report all so is meant to figure

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Speaker 2: out how to keep it from happening again. What needs

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Speaker 2: to happen so we don't have another Palisades incident. As

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Speaker 2: we know you just heard in the news report, the

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Speaker 2: winds are coming back this week.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 2: Obviously we've had a lot more rain. We're not in

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Speaker 2: the same kind of meteorological condition that we were in

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Speaker 2: the beginning of January twenty twenty five, but it's not

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Speaker 2: like we're not going to have this threat going forward

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Speaker 2: way earlier.

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Speaker 4: Fox eleven has repeatedly reached out to the Mayor's office,

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Speaker 4: city attorney, and AE comm with questions about the delay.

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Speaker 4: So far, only counsel Woman Park has responded with the statement,

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Speaker 4: saying Palisades Resonance deserve answers. I've pressed every city department

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Speaker 4: an outside partner to treat this with the urgency it demands.

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Speaker 7: Why would the head of a com quit something's missing here?

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Speaker 7: Why is it stuck in the attorney's office? Something's missing here?

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Speaker 4: You know has showing you live what the lights look

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Speaker 4: like on this block and other blocks. It is dark

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Speaker 4: and this plan includes things about power lines, water and roads,

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Speaker 4: and without some residents feel like the rebuild truly can't

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Speaker 4: begin here in Pacific Palisades Port longtime Matthew sedor Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think that there's also something about, like, Okay, if

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Speaker 2: I even get my money from the insurance company to

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Speaker 2: rebuild a house, am I going to have a water hookup?

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Speaker 2: Am I going to have power to even run to

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Speaker 2: this house when it's finished? I'd be stressing about that.

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Speaker 6: A little bit.

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Speaker 2: I'd feel a little bit like the city owes me

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Speaker 2: an explanation, for sure, especially if it's twenty million dollars

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Speaker 2: worth of your own money, especially if this thing should

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Speaker 2: have been out in November. I am six forty coming up.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about Super Bowl, the big Game, and we're

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Speaker 2: playing some more talkbacks. Who got some fun messages?

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Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on.

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Speaker 2: Demand, continuing on here with our talkbacks. Got some nice

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Speaker 2: messages from everybody here. I'm Andy Reesmier by the way,

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Speaker 2: alongside Mark Ronner, Richie Poosh. Let's listen to a little note.

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Speaker 9: Here, Andy, so good to hear you on the radio.

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Speaker 9: Thank you. A great job. Person who's leaving the business

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Speaker 9: is Kelly Clerkson.

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Speaker 2: Oh. We had had a look ahead from Tim Conway Junior,

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Speaker 2: who was teasing his show tomorrow saying he'll tell us.

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Speaker 2: Who I hear some of them? I uh, he said, uh,

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Speaker 2: what did he say? He said, he said the talk

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Speaker 2: show host was leaving the visits you had to take

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Speaker 2: care of their kids.

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Speaker 6: So that was his guest.

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Speaker 2: So I think he says that that's what he thinks

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Speaker 2: it is.

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Speaker 9: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It didn't sound like a guest. That sounded like that's what.

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Speaker 9: Person who's leaving the business is, Kelly Clerkson.

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Speaker 2: I could probably google it, but I will say this,

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Speaker 2: I'll still listen to Conway tomorrow, of course, to see

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Speaker 2: who it actually, just to be sure, just to make sure, Andy.

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Speaker 10: I here's the you're a plane officionado.

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Speaker 2: Yes, love me some airplanes.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 10: My two favorite planes are the B seventeen military cool

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Speaker 10: seventeen flying Fortress, Yes, and the B twenty nine ooh

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Speaker 10: super Fortress.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: What are yours?

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Speaker 2: That's a great question. I love talking aviation stuff. So

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Speaker 2: B seventeen Flying Fortress, of course, was a World War

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Speaker 2: Two workhorse.

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Speaker 9: Right.

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Speaker 2: They've got them all over the West, well also probably

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Speaker 2: all over the whole country as far as like at

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Speaker 2: the that's that's like what is the centerpiece of a

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Speaker 2: lot of aviation museums and the b twenty nine, which

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Speaker 2: I think was probably the same the same era is

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Speaker 2: that one that had the correct me if I'm wrong,

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Speaker 2: the glass cockpit or the cockpit rather windows were like

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Speaker 2: the entire front and top of the It looks like

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Speaker 2: a like a like a missile with wings. And I

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Speaker 2: was always a fan of commercial aviation. I was going

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Speaker 2: to be a pilot at a certain point in my life.

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Speaker 2: I was just gonna ask, so have you ever taken

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Speaker 2: like lessons? Yeah, I took a few lessons. I had

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Speaker 2: a little bit of a close call with a helicopter

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Speaker 2: and I just decided I was like not smart enough

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Speaker 2: nor I think I've said this before, Like there's some

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and that it just wasn't

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Speaker 2: going to be one of them. What kind of close

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Speaker 2: love that? Runner can't give me slop? Put it in

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Speaker 2: There will be multi generational celebrity mashups, big Instagram ready

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Speaker 11: And at its core, you're still trying to move product.

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Speaker 2: Call the business the space unironically, could you ever could

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Speaker 6: What was the scam? Is that the kind of where

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Speaker 2: Well, you gotta listen. I'll tell you when we come

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Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.

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Speaker 2: Nice to be with you this evening. We've been listening

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Speaker 2: to some really wonderful sweet messages, mostly really nice, and

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Speaker 8: Roner needs to do sports and he knows a lot

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Speaker 8: about other stuff, and you have good segments all the time.

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Speaker 2: All right, thank you, yeah, thank you very kind. Just

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Speaker 6: I am a phony. Get you're having a super Bowl party.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I have a like. I like to party.

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Speaker 8: God, I hope this gets through. Yes, I'm in San

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Speaker 2: Name, Andy Reesmier. That's fine. It's funny how some people

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Speaker 2: Name Andy, Katie l five.

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Speaker 1: You guys are the best.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, and I'm so glad.

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Speaker 8: I'm back in San Diego and I miss that Lake City,

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Speaker 1: Go, guys go.

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Speaker 2: Do you think he is telling us to keep going

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, he's been really nice though, both of

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Speaker 2: By the way, there's a March for Billionaires happening in

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Speaker 2: The march calls on people to stand up for entrepreneurs, innovators,

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Speaker 6: It's like the guy from a monopoly like that.

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Speaker 2: But the group says it's real and does sharing pro

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Speaker 2: Here's a different order from a next Star station up

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Speaker 12: The newest victim says, we're learning are people looking for

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry this happened.

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Speaker 12: It seems like a really annoying hasshole toa have to

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Speaker 12: go through and we'll get into all the details, but.

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Speaker 12: And we'll get into all the details. But you were

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Speaker 12: just trying to get a better deal in an apartment.

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Speaker 5: Just move.

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Speaker 6: I did the city.

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Speaker 13: I found a very good deal, too good to be true,

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Speaker 13: you could say, on TikTok.

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Speaker 2: So that was the app.

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Speaker 13: A video came up on my algorithm and I liked it.

442
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Speaker 13: It was a one bedroom, so I reached out and

443
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Speaker 13: I got a response, and then about a week later,

444
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Speaker 13: I had two thousand dollars taken out of my checking

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Speaker 13: account one fraudulent charges.

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Speaker 2: Oh my, what so what's the in between here?

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Speaker 13: Well, this is the apartment I went to look at

448
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Speaker 13: at Franklin Street in San Francisco. Real video that I took.

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Speaker 1: It's like near Union exactly.

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Speaker 13: And that's video on TikTok.

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Speaker 2: Union is is a pretty fancy ish It's kind of

452
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Speaker 2: like a lost feel is you know, it's sort of yeppie.

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Speaker 13: Ish on TikTok near the marina on TikTok of the

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Speaker 13: same building and the apartment for rent. I like the

455
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Speaker 13: looks of it, so I reached out. Someone got back

456
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Speaker 13: to me saying good news, the apartments available.

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Speaker 2: So it was a one bedroom lower unit in the

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Speaker 2: Union area for two thousand dollars a month, which I

459
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Speaker 2: think is really cheap. Like I think usually in that

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Speaker 2: neighborhood things are going for thirty five hundred dollars a month,

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Speaker 2: So this would this would be an incredible deal.

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Speaker 13: So I filled out an application fee and paid the

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Speaker 13: application fee two hundred and eighty dollars sent to Zell payment.

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Speaker 5: And then the following day that's.

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Speaker 13: When I went on my checking account and I saw

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Speaker 13: three hundred dollars four hundred dollars basically taken out one

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Speaker 13: at a time, just over two thousand in total, within

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Speaker 13: you know, hours of each other.

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Speaker 2: So somehow not only was this Zell payment, somehow he

470
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Speaker 2: did the original payment, but then they got a hold

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Speaker 2: of his checking account, maybe through the maybe on your

472
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Speaker 2: on your on your rental application, you got to put

473
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Speaker 2: your banking information. That's crazy. I would never do that

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Speaker 2: something fishy here.

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Speaker 13: Hours of each other.

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Speaker 12: For people, my Zell is like the Bank of America.

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Speaker 2: Met d It's like Venmo, dude, come on transferring cash. Okay, yeah,

478
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Speaker 2: I use.

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Speaker 13: It all the time, Like I get a haircut pay

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Speaker 13: through Zell. It's supposed to be like a secure form

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Speaker 13: of payments. So I didn't think anything wrong with that.

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Speaker 13: Was wrong with that, right, yeah?

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Speaker 5: Okay, but you found out otherwise.

484
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Speaker 10: So what did you find out about the person who

485
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Speaker 10: you sent the money to or who took your money.

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Speaker 13: His name was Nick, the name Nick Abraham, and so I.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he also never even saw this place in

488
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Speaker 2: real life, Like.

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Speaker 13: Reached out that there was a picture of him email

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Speaker 13: phone number. I emailed the person who said they were

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Speaker 13: Nick Abraham, the real from a company called Compass, which

492
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Speaker 13: is a legit real estate company, and it was not

493
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Speaker 13: the real person, unfortunately, but I didn't realize at the time.

494
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Speaker 13: I got emails back saying it's available. I reached out

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Speaker 13: to this person named Nick, and then when I saw

496
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Speaker 13: the fraudulent charges, of course, after going through the application fee,

497
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Speaker 13: I did some digging and I found the real Nick Abraham.

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Speaker 13: He's a real realtor. He works for Compass. He's in

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Speaker 13: southern California. I reached out to him, and he says

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Speaker 13: he gets up to ten calls a day from people

501
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Speaker 13: about this fake.

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Speaker 2: Clarify the real Nick Abraham is legit. He didn't take

503
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Speaker 2: your money.

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Speaker 10: You didn't know anything about this until it blew up

505
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Speaker 10: in his face.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, So where did things go? It blew up in

507
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Speaker 2: the reporter's face? Nick has nothing to do with him.

508
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 2: Where did things go awry?

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Speaker 6: Well?

510
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Speaker 13: I actually reached out to Nick, and I want to

511
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Speaker 13: give a little sound bite that I have from him

512
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Speaker 13: coming back.

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Speaker 2: We will listen to the SoundBite because I'm still trying

514
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Speaker 2: to figure out how this exactly happened. I have not

515
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Speaker 2: fully grasped this yet. Maybe I am dense my elf. No,

516
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Speaker 2: it's stressing me out, like this is a weird way

517
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Speaker 2: to do this story too. I don't want to criticize

518
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 2: it television journalist, but I think, like I'm not I'm

519
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 2: a little disappointed.

520
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Speaker 6: Is this perhaps the brightest television journalist ever? I just,

521
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Speaker 6: I mean, I feel for the guy you got. I

522
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 6: don't want to blame the victim you got taken, but

523
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Speaker 6: I just like, in what world are you going?

524
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Speaker 2: And sending money and putting your breaking information on an

525
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Speaker 2: apartment that you didn't even ever see.

526
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Speaker 6: How do you give somebody access to your like.

527
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Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. We will discover the

528
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Speaker 2: mysteries of life when we come back.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.

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Speaker 2: Coming up in about ten minutes or so. We're handing

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Speaker 2: it over to mister George Nori, who joins us now

532
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Speaker 2: with the preview of what's to come on tonight's Coast

533
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Speaker 2: to Coast Andy.

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Speaker 10: We're going to talk about why people are afraid of

535
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Speaker 10: artificial intelligence, and then later.

536
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Speaker 9: On why are so many people turning into spirituality?

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Speaker 2: Ooh, hey, are they connected at all?

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Speaker 9: They might be good point.

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Speaker 2: I love that real quick before we go, did you

540
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 2: see the AI social media where all the bots are

541
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Speaker 2: talking to each other?

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00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, they're going crazy?

543
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 2: What a world we're living in?

544
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 9: What do they know that we don't?

545
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 6: Very good?

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Speaker 2: We will see real soon in about eight minutes there,

547
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Speaker 2: George Norrie Coast to Coast all the way till five

548
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Speaker 2: o'clock this morning.

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Speaker 6: Thanks George.

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Speaker 2: We were just talking about this story from San Francisco

551
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 2: where a kron Kron Channel four reporter that is the

552
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Speaker 2: Next Star station up there in the Bay Area. KTLA

553
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: is also a Next Star station. That's where I work

554
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 2: here in Los Angeles. This reporter was scammed into renting

555
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Speaker 2: an apartment, or at least trying to rent an apartment

556
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Speaker 2: that he saw on TikTok, And we were listening to

557
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Speaker 2: this little interview and we had a lot of questions,

558
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Speaker 2: so I just had to go straight to the source,

559
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Speaker 2: and I guess I'll go back here. Apparently what happened

560
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Speaker 2: was he never actually saw the apartment, he saw a

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Speaker 2: video of it on TikTok. He contacted the link, then

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Speaker 2: they contacted the profile. They sent him a link to apply.

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Speaker 2: He applied, he filled out some personal information, followed the link,

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Speaker 2: sent some money on zell similar to Venmo, and then

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden he started getting withdrawals from his

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Speaker 2: checking account. Ended up taking two thousand dollars from him.

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Speaker 2: His name is ron Nesbitt and apparently he at one

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Speaker 2: time was accused of being AI generated himself. But I

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Speaker 2: guess what is interesting about this is the layer that

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Speaker 2: I didn't understand from the audio we listened to, is

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Speaker 2: that he actually called the guy who was allegedly the

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Speaker 2: realtor who was involved in this and spoke to him,

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Speaker 2: but he may have been speaking to an AI bot

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Speaker 2: and did I didn't know it. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 2: when he called that realtor, the real one down here

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Speaker 2: in southern California, he noticed that the voicemail sounded just

577
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Speaker 2: like the person he thought he had been talking to.

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Speaker 2: So what he is alleging is that whoever these scammers

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Speaker 2: are used his voicemail greeting to clone his voice so

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Speaker 2: that it would sound like the realtor. Now does that

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Speaker 2: make any of us feel like we're going to go

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Speaker 2: on TikTok and find an apartment and then just fill

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Speaker 2: out an application without ever seeing an apartment. I don't

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Speaker 2: think so. But ever since the news came out, like

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Speaker 2: I said, this poor guy had to go to his

586
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Speaker 2: work and tell everybody that he got scammed. Not only

587
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Speaker 2: do his boss, but everybody on TV. The account has

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Speaker 2: been taken down on TikTok as of a five pm today,

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Speaker 2: the social media app TikTok says the fake Nick Abraham

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Speaker 2: has been taken down in banned. So uh, I'm sure

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Speaker 2: they'll pop up somewhere else very soon.

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Speaker 14: Okay, So this is a message for the guy who

593
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Speaker 14: called and said Mark Ronner's gotta go. My message to

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Speaker 14: that guy is gohself.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 2: I agree. Look at you defending your honor in the comments.

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Speaker 14: Mark Ronner is the bomb. I only reason I listened

598
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Speaker 14: to KFI at nice Mark Ronner.

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Speaker 2: Dude, you want this? Do you want this for your

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Speaker 2: next contract negotiation?

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Speaker 6: Do you think I have a contract?

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Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know. I don't do well. Just for

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Speaker 3: your next meeting? No, no, thank you sir?

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Speaker 6: Did he give his name?

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Speaker 14: Mark Ronner is the bomb?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 14: My only reason I listened to KFI at nice Mark Ronner.

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Speaker 14: I really like that dude, smart, funny, a little bit

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Speaker 14: of a liberal, but overall solid guy.

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Speaker 2: I think you're pretty, even keeled, brother, I think you're pretty.

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Speaker 2: You're a journalist.

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Speaker 6: First, I appreciate the kind words. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what the hell I've said that's so

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Speaker 6: liberal though, I don't know. Maybe maybe it's your vibe,

615
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 6: Maybe it's your Seattle thing. Please you know, maybe did

616
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Speaker 6: you ever go to some like Nirvana concerts back in

617
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 6: the day That was kind of before my Seattle time.

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Speaker 6: My long suffering one, the girlfriend was into that whole

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Speaker 6: grunge scene. It tells me about it all the time.

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Speaker 2: So she was she's also from Seattle. Yeah, that's so cool.

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Speaker 2: I was. I was a little too young too. I

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Speaker 2: mean I listened to it later, but I you know,

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Speaker 2: I would have been like four years old at the time,

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Speaker 2: but I would have loved to go and be a

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Speaker 2: part of the Seattle grunge scene. I think that would

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Speaker 2: have been a really cool thing. And it's weird to

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Speaker 2: go back there now and be like, oh, I'm trying

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Speaker 2: to relive that energy. It's like when you go to

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Speaker 2: San Francisco to go to the hate Ashbury and you're like,

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Speaker 2: it's like Disneyland for hippies. Now, you know, it's not

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Speaker 2: the same that it was in nineteen sixty nine.

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Speaker 6: Oh, Seattle has been gutted. It's got no character left.

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Speaker 6: If you think you're going to go there and get

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Speaker 6: a vibe of the old days, pop in the old

635
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Speaker 6: old Kulshak the Knights Strangler TV movie from the early seventies.

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Speaker 6: That's the best you're gonna get.

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Speaker 2: You wonder why people think you're a serial kill I

638
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Speaker 2: just like, I gotta I gotta say it.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's a movie that is set in Seattle.

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Speaker 6: It shows like the Seattle Underground, like a version none

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Speaker 6: of us ever.

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Speaker 2: Got to see. No, that's cool, but it's it's it's terrific.

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Speaker 2: Hey did we talk about this last week? Have you

644
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: seen the Secret Mall Apartment movie?

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Speaker 6: I've seen bits of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was I saw it, and I know that

647
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Speaker 2: not everybody loved it, but I thought it was a

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Speaker 2: real fun documentary. And of course it's a story about

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Speaker 2: a guy who in I think he was a professor

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Speaker 2: at the Rhode Island School of Design, Risdy, and he,

651
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Speaker 2: as a sort of performance art piece, would do these

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Speaker 2: installations of art in public places. And he found one

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Speaker 2: day that he could sneak into the local mall, into

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Speaker 2: this sort of void in between the parking garage and

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Speaker 2: the actual mall that had not been seen by anybody

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Speaker 2: since they had constructed the mall a few years prior.

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Speaker 2: And so he and his art friends decided it would

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Speaker 2: be kind of like a funny idea. This is two

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Speaker 2: thousand and five, right, this is before the Internet, so

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Speaker 2: we have to remember there was a lot of different

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Speaker 2: things that we thought were cool then. And he set

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Speaker 2: up essentially a living room kitchen table, video game console,

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Speaker 2: and then they maintained this apartment for four years and

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Speaker 2: they never got caught up until the end when they

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Speaker 2: did get caught.

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Speaker 6: That's pretty amazing.

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Speaker 2: It's a really fascinating story about just sort of like

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Speaker 2: art in real life and why people do what they

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Speaker 2: do and why they're compelled to do these strange things.

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Speaker 2: And it's very fun and it reminded me kind of

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Speaker 2: of the last era of that sort of just like

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Speaker 2: brash punk art thing that I associate with that era,

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Speaker 2: but also especially with Seattle in the early nineteen nineties.

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Speaker 6: Where was this. No, it was in Rhode Island, wasn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in Rhode Island. But it's the same just to me,

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Speaker 2: it's that like kind of Devil may Care sort of

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Speaker 2: I don't know, We'll just do a crazy, weird thing

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Speaker 2: because it's that's a fun idea.

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Speaker 6: I didn't see the entire thing. It was one of

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Speaker 6: these situations where it's on while I'm in the room

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Speaker 6: doing something else. How did it end?

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Speaker 2: You mean, like, how did they ruin it for everybody?

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Speaker 11: Well?

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Speaker 2: No, I mean it's it's known that they were. They

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Speaker 2: At the beginning of the documentary, you are told that

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Speaker 2: they get caught. Oh okay, but it's not like the

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Speaker 2: point of the documentary isn't isn't like what happened necessarily,

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Speaker 2: It's sort of like how they did it, which is

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Speaker 2: it is so fascinating. And I thought it was great,

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Speaker 2: and a lot of people thought it was dumb. And

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Speaker 2: by a lot of people, I mean like a few

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Speaker 2: people on my Twitter feed.

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Speaker 6: But now you've already accused me of this. But I'm

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Speaker 6: just gonna go ahead and walk right into it and say,

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Speaker 6: this is a great double bill with Down and the Dead.

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Speaker 6: The whole thing takes place in a shopping Absolutely. Yeah, No,

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Speaker 6: that's a great one.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait. Let's talk about movies next next time

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Speaker 2: I'm here on Friday, we'll we'll do the LA List

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Speaker 2: of one hundred and one best Los Angeles movies. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: I know, it's like we're way late on that, but

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Speaker 2: it's a good story.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm in.

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Speaker 2: We'll see at the Billionaires March, how about it. I

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Speaker 2: look for a monocle CAMF. I am six forty. I'm

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Speaker 2: Andy rees Meyer. Great to be with you tonight. We'll

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Speaker 2: see you on Friday. We are live everywhere on the

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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app,