WEBVTT - Mike Allen Saturday Mid-Day -- 11/1/25

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<v Speaker 1>News Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen and Saturday midday,

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<v Speaker 1>how about cold Saturday morning. Well, I'll tell you what

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<v Speaker 1>election time is here. Of course, Tuesday is the election date.

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<v Speaker 1>People have been voting by mail gosh, I guess in

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<v Speaker 1>some cases for about thirty days. But the big races

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<v Speaker 1>here in the City of Cincinnati, of course, is the

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<v Speaker 1>Mayor's race and the council races. So today I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to do things a little bit differently. Today we are

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<v Speaker 1>going to speak with some of the candidates that are

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<v Speaker 1>running for City of Cincinnati Council, the ones that I

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<v Speaker 1>think have the best shot at punching through perhaps. And

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<v Speaker 1>at ten thirty we're going to talk to Corey Bowman,

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<v Speaker 1>who is a candidate for mayor, and Billy. I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what, if ever there was one you would love

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<v Speaker 1>to see an upset in that race. Of course, Corey

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<v Speaker 1>running against the incumbent in that matter, in that whole thing, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Mister Pureval, we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, when you got a city that's votes three

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<v Speaker 1>to one Democrat, it's an uphill battle.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, this year's different. I mean, it just is.

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<v Speaker 1>With the downtown beat down, in the situation with the

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<v Speaker 1>Chief of Police driving it, so we shall see. But

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<v Speaker 1>at any rate, Liz Keating will lead it off at

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<v Speaker 1>nine point thirty. At ten o'clock we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to Steve Gooden, a ten thirty Corey Bowman candidate for mayor,

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<v Speaker 1>as I said, And at eleven o'clock we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to Judge Josh Berkowitz, and he is running to

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<v Speaker 1>keep his seat on the Hamilton County Municipal Court. And

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to conclude at eleven thirty with Christopher Smitheman.

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<v Speaker 1>The only problem with all this is I'm probably not

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<v Speaker 1>going to have time to take calls. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>you feel compelled and something that you really want to

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<v Speaker 1>get off your chest, you know, go ahead and call

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<v Speaker 1>seven point nine seven thousand, one eight hundred the big

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<v Speaker 1>one and I'll try to work you in.

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<v Speaker 2>But no guarantees.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, I just think it's important that we hear from

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<v Speaker 1>these candidates on three days out from the election. But

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<v Speaker 1>at any rate, I wanted to talk to you about

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<v Speaker 1>something in the rant here, about something I saw this

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<v Speaker 1>week which just really kind of knocked me on my

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<v Speaker 1>butt in a good way. Let me explain it.

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<v Speaker 3>To you.

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<v Speaker 1>It was about an article in this relatively new I

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<v Speaker 1>think publication named Semaphore. I've got it open here on

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<v Speaker 1>my computer, and you know, I looked at it this

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<v Speaker 1>week and it looks like it's pretty fair right straight

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<v Speaker 1>down the line as far as reporting. Looks like it's

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<v Speaker 1>all political stuff. But that's where this article was. That's

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<v Speaker 1>where I found that. It's a new for profit global

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<v Speaker 1>news network. They have a really interesting website. As I said,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to check it out. This story in

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<v Speaker 1>Semaphore is getting a lot of play. Okay, here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>They reported this week that a group called Welcome, which

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<v Speaker 1>is being labeled as a centrist Democrat group, which I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know there are any more of them left, they consulted.

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't a poll. This is a study. They consulted

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<v Speaker 1>with hundreds of thousands of voters in the past six months,

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<v Speaker 1>and they also spoke with a lot of Democratic legislators.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, it's more than a poll. It's a comprehensive study.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll tell you what. The results are shocking, but

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<v Speaker 1>really shouldn't be, not really that surprising, but man, it

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<v Speaker 1>just shows you where the Democrat Party is at this

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<v Speaker 1>point in time. Here's the introduction to the report from

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<v Speaker 1>this group called Welcome that you can see in Semaphore.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a couple of paragraphs here. Then we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get down to the gritty. Democrats have badly weakened their

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<v Speaker 1>party with left leaning ideas and rhetoric growing only the

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<v Speaker 1>party growing only with self described white liberals, while losing

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<v Speaker 1>ground with other voters. Yeah, you know, normal people. According

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<v Speaker 1>to a new center left group's report that was shared

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<v Speaker 1>with Semaphore, the group called Welcome consulted hundreds of thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of voters over six months for its broad findings, including

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<v Speaker 1>listen to this one. If there's any bombshell in this

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<v Speaker 1>or although it really shouldn't be, it's this, seventy percent

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<v Speaker 1>of voters think the Democratic Party is out of touch.

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<v Speaker 1>Seventy percent. That's not seventy percent of Republicans. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>seventy percent of conservatives. That's seventy percent of voters who

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<v Speaker 1>think that the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 2>Is out of touch.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we all know that it is, but to get

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<v Speaker 1>that big of a number, I think is a is

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<v Speaker 1>something that's important and noteworthy.

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<v Speaker 2>Goes on.

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<v Speaker 1>Most voters, the group found believe the party the Democrat

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<v Speaker 1>party over prioritizes issues like are you ready protecting the

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<v Speaker 1>rights of LGBTQ plus you got to put that plus

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<v Speaker 1>in there, plus Americans and fighting climate change while not

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<v Speaker 1>caring about securing the border or lowering the rate of crime. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they looked at the rise in Democrat lawmakers. Now keep

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<v Speaker 1>in mind this is Democrat lawmakers. They looked at their

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<v Speaker 1>support for radical legislation. Here's just some examples. In twenty thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>only one percent of Democrat lawmakers supported a study to

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<v Speaker 1>determine if reparations there it is reparations should be awarded

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<v Speaker 1>to African Americans. Only one percent in twenty thirteen. Check

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<v Speaker 1>this out in twenty twenty four, eleven years later, that

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<v Speaker 1>new number is fifty seven percent. So they go from

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<v Speaker 1>one percent of Democrat leaders lawmakers that think that we

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<v Speaker 1>should look at reparations all the way to fifty seven percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay and twenty thirteen. Also twenty thirteen, only four percent

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<v Speaker 1>of Democrat lawmakers supported inmate voting rights, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>burning issue for most of the Democrat party. Four percent

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty thirteen supported of Democrat lawmakers supported inmate voting rights.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty twenty four, that number is now forty one percent.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can see the way that the Democrat Party

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<v Speaker 1>is going. And support among Democratic lawmakers for an assault weapons.

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<v Speaker 2>Ban grew from in twenty thirteen.

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<v Speaker 1>To now actually twenty twenty four, eighty eight percent of

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<v Speaker 1>Democrat lawmakers favor that. Again, you can see the drift.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see the drift leftward, drifting so much that

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<v Speaker 1>they just go over the edge on this thing. In

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the shift, this report went on to say

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<v Speaker 1>that the defeat or retirement of some conservative Democrats.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just going to stop here.

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<v Speaker 1>I have not seen a conservative Democrat on the national

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<v Speaker 1>level for god knows how many years. The last one

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<v Speaker 1>I remember is Scoop Jackson, who was a Democrat senator.

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<v Speaker 1>I forget what state. He was very conservative on defense

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<v Speaker 1>matters and other matters as well. I defy anyone to

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<v Speaker 1>give me the name of a Democrat nationally who could

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<v Speaker 1>be considered a conservative and on the local level, last

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<v Speaker 1>time you saw a conservative Democrat. The last one that

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<v Speaker 1>comes to my mind is somebody who I think is

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<v Speaker 1>a great man, Dusty Rhodes. You know, since Dusty, they're

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<v Speaker 1>just non existent. But at any rate, to get back

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<v Speaker 1>to the report, the defeat or retirement of some conservative

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats explained some of the shift, but not all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>The Report Study of National Democratic Party Platforms from the convention.

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<v Speaker 1>You always have a party platform at the convention. They

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<v Speaker 1>used to be really important. Not so much anymore. But

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<v Speaker 1>the report Study of National Democratic Party Platforms from twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twelve to twenty twenty four found a surge in language

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<v Speaker 1>about specific racial groups. That's up eight hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight percent. About environmental justice, whatever the hell that is

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<v Speaker 1>it is up three hundred and thirty three percent. And

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<v Speaker 1>about LGBTQ you know what, they didn't put the plus here,

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<v Speaker 1>And about LGBTQ plus rights up one thousand and forty

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<v Speaker 1>four percent. Mentions of men fell by sixty three percent,

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<v Speaker 1>and mentions of fathers by one hundred percent, and mentions

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<v Speaker 1>of the concept of responsibility.

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<v Speaker 2>Eighty three percent.

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<v Speaker 1>So in twenty twenty and twenty twenty four party platform

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<v Speaker 1>began with listen to this. This just gives you a

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<v Speaker 1>perfect example where the Democrat Party is. In twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four, the party platform Democrat Platform began with

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<v Speaker 1>land acknowledgments for the Native American tribes that have previously

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<v Speaker 1>inhabited their convention sites. Who the hell cares Native Americans?

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<v Speaker 1>From everything that I've read, they couldn't care less about

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff. Only the in the Democrat Party do well.

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<v Speaker 1>The report kind of winds up by saying those shifts

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<v Speaker 1>that I just read up there don't win votes. The

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<v Speaker 1>reports analysis of voter data from a thing called Catalyst,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a Democrat data firm, showed Democrats losing some

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<v Speaker 1>ground with non college educated white voters. You think since

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twelve, but this is even better for us far

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<v Speaker 1>more with non white voters, meaning African American voters meeting

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<v Speaker 1>Hispanic voters.

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<v Speaker 2>They're losing.

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<v Speaker 1>The Democrats are losing voters in those two groups and

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<v Speaker 1>we're gaining. And the closes just to say that those voters,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what their education level is, and it ends

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<v Speaker 1>by saying progressive language and politics meant to win those

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<v Speaker 1>non white voters simply didn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>So there you go, kind of in a nutshell.

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<v Speaker 1>Democrat Party is in the year twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>This is getting down to the nitty gritty, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just my opinion. This report is it appears to me

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<v Speaker 1>to be very well researched and very well reported. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not just saying that. I did a pretty deep

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<v Speaker 1>dive this week into it. But it's all going to

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<v Speaker 1>go over like the proverbial lead balloon among the so

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<v Speaker 1>called leaders of the Democratic Party, the Chucky Schumers, the Aocs,

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<v Speaker 1>the Jasmine Crocketts, YadA, YadA, YadA. You think those people

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<v Speaker 1>are going to embrace this study, There's no way, even

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<v Speaker 1>if they wanted to, they can't because they are held

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<v Speaker 1>captive by the radical leftist wing of the Democrat Party.

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<v Speaker 1>It is as simple as that. And again, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>why is it going to go over like a lead balloon?

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<v Speaker 1>As we all know, and I think I mentioned this

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<v Speaker 1>on the first show about twenty six, twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Years ago, just kidding about eight years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the main trait of a liberal or liberalism?

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<v Speaker 1>What is the main trait? If you don't know it

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<v Speaker 1>by now, I'll tell you again. It's arrogance, absolute unabashed arrogance.

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<v Speaker 1>They're right, no matter what, will never ever consider another

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<v Speaker 1>point of view. They're right, and if you don't agree

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<v Speaker 1>with them, you're canceled, you're out of here. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they could never be wrong in their mind and any

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<v Speaker 1>dissent from this radical narrative will be stomped down. And

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<v Speaker 1>guess what that only helps us. So wanted to let

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<v Speaker 1>you know about that study again. It's in the online

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<v Speaker 1>publication Calledaphore. You can get it pretty easily now. The

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<v Speaker 1>one thing is I'm playing around with it.

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<v Speaker 2>This always happens.

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<v Speaker 1>After a while, something pops up and says, hey, you

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<v Speaker 1>got one more visit left, and then we're gonna charge you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how much it is, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to do that, but you know what I might,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's reasonable, just plunk down a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>money because I think it's very good. But it gives

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<v Speaker 1>you an idea where they're going. They can have all

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<v Speaker 1>these studies. Carville was a part of this study. They

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<v Speaker 1>can have all these studies. But if they're not, if

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<v Speaker 1>the downcats, I'm going to pay attention to it, more

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<v Speaker 1>power to them. Man, they're running themselves into the ground

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<v Speaker 1>real quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>Here.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to let you know this is no surprise here,

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<v Speaker 1>or shouldn't be. We also learned this week that the

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Justice is finally investigating the sanctified Black Lives

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<v Speaker 1>Matter organization. They're investigating the outright theft of millions and

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<v Speaker 1>millions of dollars that Corporate America threw at them Black

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<v Speaker 1>Lives Matter in the wake of the George Floyd killing,

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<v Speaker 1>and we talked about that at the time, and Corporate

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<v Speaker 1>America threw money at them like you wouldn't believe. While

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<v Speaker 1>they're throwing money at BLM, they're throwing the cops under

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<v Speaker 1>the bus.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of the things.

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<v Speaker 1>That urinated me off the most since I've been on

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<v Speaker 1>this show. Story in Fox News just a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of it, because we're running out of time here. Federal

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<v Speaker 1>prosecutors are investigating whether senior leaders of the BLM organization

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<v Speaker 1>defrauded donors who contributed tens of millions of dollars during

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty protest mostly peaceful protests. Remember while the

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<v Speaker 1>reporter said it was mostly peaceful, while something's burning, a

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<v Speaker 1>car's burning behind him. Will always remember that. The AP

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<v Speaker 1>reported that the Justice Department's ongoing in query is based

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<v Speaker 1>on the foundation's handling of donations collected in the wake,

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<v Speaker 1>As I said, of the George Floyd killing, when the

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<v Speaker 1>groups saw a surge of more than ninety million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>in contributions. I think it's much more than that, and

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<v Speaker 1>the probe is being led by the US Attorney's Office

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<v Speaker 1>for the Central District of California. According to the apd

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<v Speaker 1>investigation began during the Biden administration. Now that surprised me,

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<v Speaker 1>but has received renewed attention, you think under the new

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<v Speaker 1>Trump administration. The ap also reported that the inquiry extends

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<v Speaker 1>to other black led advocacy groups that gained prominence during

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<v Speaker 1>the nationwide demonstrations. Okay, so they go to BLM to

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<v Speaker 1>get a comment. They told Fox News, quote, Black Lives

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<v Speaker 1>Matter Global Network Foundation is not a target of any

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<v Speaker 1>federal criminal investigation.

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<v Speaker 2>Blatant, flat out.

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<v Speaker 1>They know that, and it goes on their statement BLM,

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<v Speaker 1>we remain committed to full transparency, accountability, and the responsible

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<v Speaker 1>stewardship of resources dedicated to building a better future for

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<v Speaker 1>black communities. That, my friends, is a bald face, out

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<v Speaker 1>and out lie. They've known about this all along. You

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<v Speaker 1>may recall a couple of years ago we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>on this show, Patrice Colors cullrs her she spent millions

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars buying high end homes and condominiums for We

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<v Speaker 1>never did find out who it was for I saw

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<v Speaker 1>one of them. They said, Wow, we're using that as

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<v Speaker 1>our headquarters. Just outright theft. Well, they go on in

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<v Speaker 1>the statement we are surprised at some of the incredulity

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<v Speaker 1>and our calculations. I'm sorry, that's not a statement from

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<v Speaker 1>this is so too. After that, so too is BLM,

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<v Speaker 1>which suggests that if objections to wealth transfers of the

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<v Speaker 1>scale are rooted in are you ready white supremacy and

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<v Speaker 1>a pathology that black organizations didn't don't deserve to be funded?

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<v Speaker 1>Close quote, you can boil it all down and they're

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<v Speaker 1>blaming it on are you ready racism? What else could

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<v Speaker 1>it be other than racism? Trot that thing out when

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have anything else. But at any rate, I

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<v Speaker 1>really do hope that DOJ puts the pedal to the

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<v Speaker 1>metal on this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, we got to take a break from the news.

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<v Speaker 3>Butt.

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<v Speaker 1>When we get back, we're going to talk to I

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<v Speaker 1>believe the last Republican elected the city council, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>Liz Keating. We'll do that when we get back. Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Allen Saturday midday. Hey, we're back, Mike Allen, Saturday mid day.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell you what that kind of Rocks.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Liam blink two blink one eight two blink one eighty two.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew that. No, I didn't at any rate. As

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<v Speaker 2>I said all morning.

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<v Speaker 1>This morning, we are going to be talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>city election coming up, council members and the mayor and

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<v Speaker 1>leading it off is the last Republican. She was the

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<v Speaker 1>last Republican on Cincinnati City Council. Talking of course about

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<v Speaker 1>Liz Keating. She served on Cincinnati City Council from twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty twenty four. Political philosophy, she will listen to

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<v Speaker 1>all sides, ask many questions, drive productive debate, and then

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<v Speaker 1>work to find the best possible solution, which sounds to

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<v Speaker 1>me like it was how she did it in her

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<v Speaker 1>last council term because she was the only Republican. Kating,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Saturday mid Day. It's great to have you.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you something, Liz, and you got into

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<v Speaker 1>it a little bit later than some of the others.

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<v Speaker 2>Why did you decide to run again this year?

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<v Speaker 5>Honestly because I'm just fed up with everything that's going on.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's almost been two years since I have

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<v Speaker 5>been off council. I finished in January twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 5>and during that entire time, I still fielded calls from

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<v Speaker 5>dozens of residents because they weren't getting their trash picked up,

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<v Speaker 5>They litter, what everywhere wasn't getting cleaned up. They weren't

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<v Speaker 5>hearing from the city. When we had that snowstorm, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the street sparn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Cloud, schools couldn't open.

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<v Speaker 5>When they reached out about concerns about crime, they weren't

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<v Speaker 5>getting any response from city council.

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<v Speaker 4>And so they're calling me for help.

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<v Speaker 5>And you shouldn't have to know somebody who knows somebody

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<v Speaker 5>to get help at city Hall. This is the job

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<v Speaker 5>that city council was elected to do, and they are failing.

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<v Speaker 4>They are failing.

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<v Speaker 5>They are not responding to the resident and I am

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<v Speaker 5>just tired of it, and it's hurting the reputation of

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<v Speaker 5>the city. And so I decided to jump in because

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<v Speaker 5>something needs, something needs to change, It needs to be fixed,

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<v Speaker 5>and I want Cincinnati back on track.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I take it from what you're saying that

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<v Speaker 1>you're not in favor of city council getting involved in

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<v Speaker 1>issues like immigration and other things that have absolutely nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to do with the daily operations of the City of Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a fair and accurate statement.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, there's a lot of things that councils should be doing.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, there are issues that do impact Cincinnati immigration.

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<v Speaker 4>In some ways. But if you're just debating.

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<v Speaker 5>The national level politics of it and policies, that's not

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<v Speaker 5>responding to the residents. Well, you know what you can do.

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<v Speaker 5>You can work on workforce development because we actually have

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<v Speaker 5>more jobs in Cincinnati than we have people to fill them.

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<v Speaker 5>We have money coming in from the Railroad Trust for

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<v Speaker 5>infrastructure projects, and guess what, the city's not spending it

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<v Speaker 5>to pay your roads because they haven't figured out how

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<v Speaker 5>to deploy it. We could use a lot more people

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<v Speaker 5>getting trained to be able to fill those jobs and

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<v Speaker 5>actually pave the roads. But if you're not focused on

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<v Speaker 5>actual productive debate and getting things done in Cince, nowive

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<v Speaker 5>that actually helped the residents. And all you're doing is

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<v Speaker 5>complaining about people at the federal level who you disagree with.

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<v Speaker 5>No one benefits, no one benefits. You have to focus

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<v Speaker 5>on actual solutions here.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And based on what you said, I didn't realize this.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you saying that from that railroad money none of

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<v Speaker 1>it has been spent spent yet on infrastructure, because I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that's one of the ways they sold this thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Not none of it. Very little has been spent.

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<v Speaker 5>They appropriated so much money through paving roads and there

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<v Speaker 5>was a report last month that said only four percent

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<v Speaker 5>of it had actually been deployed on actual projects. If

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<v Speaker 5>you can't get the money out the door, there is

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<v Speaker 5>a problem. And guess what, no the one on council

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<v Speaker 5>has been figuring out what that problem is to actually

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<v Speaker 5>deploy the money. That's a huge, huge problem. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>our roads and Cincinematic are an absolute mess. This should

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<v Speaker 5>be something that you're focused on because this is something

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<v Speaker 5>that impacts our residents. And right now we are not

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<v Speaker 5>getting any productive debate from our council members. They're all

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<v Speaker 5>over the place on things. They're saying everything is being

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<v Speaker 5>run smoothly, and it's not. Residents know that residents are

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<v Speaker 5>feeling the pain. And as we've been out on the

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<v Speaker 5>campaign trail the last nine weeks, that's all we hear

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<v Speaker 5>from people is they are frustrated and they're set up

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<v Speaker 5>and they're not hearing from their council members. And that

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<v Speaker 5>is what council members are supposed to do. They're supposed

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<v Speaker 5>to be responsive to the constituents that they represent.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and you mentioned road paving. I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, with respect to snow removal, you can always tell Liz,

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<v Speaker 1>I live just outside the city now, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the townships, the county, others, they do a pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>job of it.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you enter the city.

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<v Speaker 1>Of Cincinnati, you can tell you don't need a sign

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<v Speaker 1>that says corporation line. And one thing this is, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess kind of personal paving road. Will you, because I

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<v Speaker 1>know you'll get a handle on it, will you please

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<v Speaker 1>have them look in to paving Sunset Avenue as you

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<v Speaker 1>turn left off a Queen City.

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<v Speaker 2>It's unbelievable. It's like a battlefield there.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess that's just an example of what you're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing throughout the city.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, I mean, in sometime is one that has come

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<v Speaker 5>up time and time again as we're out talking to voters,

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<v Speaker 5>and I mean something like that that shouldn't be that

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<v Speaker 5>hard to get done. There is so much money now

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<v Speaker 5>coming in. There's money coming in from the federal government

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<v Speaker 5>to other infrastructure projects, things like the Western Hills viaducts

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<v Speaker 5>and in the new Brunt Spence Bridge, Like there are

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<v Speaker 5>so many jobs and so much money, tens of millions

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<v Speaker 5>of dollars actually one hundreds of millions of dollars coming

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<v Speaker 5>in to do these projects. There is no reason that

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<v Speaker 5>we should not be prepared to fill those jobs in

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<v Speaker 5>to start paving roads, especially in this kind of economy

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<v Speaker 5>where people are hurting. We should get people in those shops,

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<v Speaker 5>get those paychecks going home, support families, and take care

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<v Speaker 5>of the roads. We can do it if we have

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<v Speaker 5>a council that is paying attention and actually figuring out

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<v Speaker 5>how to implement and implementary quickly so that you can

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<v Speaker 5>take care of the residents' needs.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, there something I got to ask you this question.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I know the answer, but I'm going to ask.

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<v Speaker 1>You what do you feel is keating is the most

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<v Speaker 1>important issue facing Cincinnati City Council, and if elected, what

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<v Speaker 1>will you do to help alleviate that problem?

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<v Speaker 4>Right now? It's crime.

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<v Speaker 5>Crime is what we are hearing the top issue, top

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<v Speaker 5>concern from everyone. And it's not just crime, but it's

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<v Speaker 5>also the perception of safety too. And right now we're

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<v Speaker 5>consistently hearing from council members that, oh, crime's going down,

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<v Speaker 5>crimes going down. Everything is fine, Everything is working.

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<v Speaker 4>But if you're hearing.

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<v Speaker 5>From voters everywhere in the city that they are concerned

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<v Speaker 5>about crime, they're concerned about public safety, they don't want

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<v Speaker 5>to go places because they don't feel safe, you should

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<v Speaker 5>be paying attention to that. We need elected officials who

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<v Speaker 5>are responding to constituent concerns and are working relentlessly to

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<v Speaker 5>get that crime number to zero. You should not be

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<v Speaker 5>satisfied until that number is zero. And it's not just

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<v Speaker 5>being tough on crime where you're you're getting you know,

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<v Speaker 5>you're filling the recruit classes, helping with retention to get

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<v Speaker 5>more officers walking the beats and making the neighborhood safe,

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<v Speaker 5>but you also need to be tough on the causes

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<v Speaker 5>of crime because if you can help prevent it, then

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<v Speaker 5>you don't need to worry about things and you're not

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<v Speaker 5>going to run into a problem when you are short

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<v Speaker 5>with officers. And there's so many programs that we can

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<v Speaker 5>do that I did before on counsel and we'll do again,

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<v Speaker 5>and that things like youth jobs that's expending expanding rec

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<v Speaker 5>center hours, and programs for kids that's you know, making

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<v Speaker 5>sure that we are implementing childcare programs so we have

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<v Speaker 5>safe places for kids. That's making sure that you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we're looking at housing and housing affordability to create more

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<v Speaker 5>stabilization for families. That's working with CPS to be able

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<v Speaker 5>to make sure our kids and most at risk youth

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<v Speaker 5>are taken care of. There's so many things to do,

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<v Speaker 5>fighting the crime and fighting the causes of crime, but

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<v Speaker 5>we need council members who actually care about that and

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<v Speaker 5>don't just point to data that looks good for them

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<v Speaker 5>to say we're doing.

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<v Speaker 4>A good job.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this, and I'm going to ask

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<v Speaker 1>everyone this. Do you feel that ch Fiji was treated

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<v Speaker 1>fairly in this latest thing, the.

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<v Speaker 2>What I call the downtown beat down? And I guess

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<v Speaker 2>just overall, do you think she's been treated fairly? Lis Keating?

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<v Speaker 4>No, this is absolutely terrible.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what's happening. Your tax dollers are being wasted

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<v Speaker 5>on this because they asked her to resign. If she

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<v Speaker 5>didn't resign, and then all of a sudden, you have

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<v Speaker 5>to bring in a law firm spend fifty thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 5>to investigate to be able to figure something out. That

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<v Speaker 5>is a waste of taxpayer money. There are so many

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<v Speaker 5>things in the city that we need to spend money on,

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<v Speaker 5>and we are short on money when it comes to

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<v Speaker 5>the operation side, and you're going to spend the money

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<v Speaker 5>on trying to find a reason to fire her. Do

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<v Speaker 5>you get into this mess? And yes, this is a

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<v Speaker 5>city manager's decision, but you know what, Council plays a

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:09.760
<v Speaker 5>role because council appropriates the dollars. It takes two members

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<v Speaker 5>of council to call a special meeting, and not one

0:27:12.119 --> 0:27:14.359
<v Speaker 5>of them has teamed up with someone to call a

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<v Speaker 5>special meeting.

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<v Speaker 4>They can call a special.

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<v Speaker 5>Meeting and put the administration on the hot seat and

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<v Speaker 5>ask questions so that the public can better understand what

0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:25.639
<v Speaker 5>they're doing and why. And you know what, if counsel

0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:28.000
<v Speaker 5>disagrees with them at that point, when they actually ask

0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:30.440
<v Speaker 5>questions and better understand what's going on, they can say,

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:33.119
<v Speaker 5>you know what, we don't agree with the fifty thousand dollars.

0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:35.040
<v Speaker 5>We're not going to spend it. We're not going to

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:37.439
<v Speaker 5>allow you to spend it. Council can step in and

0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 5>stop this witch hunt right now, and they haven't done it.

0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 5>They're hiding from this, they're not responding to anything, and

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:48.440
<v Speaker 5>this is the job of counsel and they're failing right now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's embarrassing. Let me ask you this. It is a

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:55.560
<v Speaker 1>little bit off the cuff, but not really. In the

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:57.879
<v Speaker 1>year two thousand and I know you weren't on city

0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:01.880
<v Speaker 1>council then Issue five that was on the ballot. It

0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:04.399
<v Speaker 1>was an issue to remove the Chief of Police, the

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:09.080
<v Speaker 1>fire chief, and I think several other positions within high

0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:14.399
<v Speaker 1>positions within city government, to remove civil service protection for

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:15.320
<v Speaker 1>those people.

0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:16.320
<v Speaker 2>And it passed.

0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:19.239
<v Speaker 1>It was a fifty two to forty eight vote. I

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:21.920
<v Speaker 1>was one of the ones working hard to make sure

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 1>it didn't pass. Well, it did. You're familiar with the issue,

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:26.679
<v Speaker 1>I would suppose, Liz, aren't you?

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:28.640
<v Speaker 5>Yes, huh, yep?

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:29.159
<v Speaker 2>Would you?

0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:31.720
<v Speaker 5>I think it's a great debate to come back. Oh yeah, sorry,

0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:32.119
<v Speaker 5>go ahead.

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:34.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to say, would you do what you

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:38.040
<v Speaker 1>could do? I guess it's got to be a vote

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:40.560
<v Speaker 1>to change the charter back, but would you do whatever

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 1>you could do to see that that thing gets on

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 1>the ballot and then work to pass it because if

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 1>we had that, it's my humble opinion, none of as

0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 1>garbage would have happened with the chief.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think it's a there's a really strong argument

0:28:56.360 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 5>to bring that back and to require and look at

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:02.800
<v Speaker 5>it different way, not just the protections that were there before,

0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 5>but the possibility of requiring vote of council and maybe

0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:09.720
<v Speaker 5>a super majority vote of council to approve the firing,

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 5>because then you have those protections in place, a little

0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:14.440
<v Speaker 5>bit more balance of power.

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:16.840
<v Speaker 4>But what it does is that would give.

0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 5>Our leaders, like the police chief, like the fire chief,

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:24.000
<v Speaker 5>maybe even potentially a city manager and others a little

0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:25.680
<v Speaker 5>bit more room to not get caught up in the

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:26.360
<v Speaker 5>politics and.

0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:27.479
<v Speaker 4>Actually do their jobs.

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:31.480
<v Speaker 5>These professionals, they are experts in their field. Politicians are not,

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:34.320
<v Speaker 5>and that gives them so much space to be able

0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:37.320
<v Speaker 5>to maneuver and make the right decisions, particularly in times

0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:40.560
<v Speaker 5>of crises, and not worry about the politics a bet

0:29:40.600 --> 0:29:43.720
<v Speaker 5>are at play and potentially losing their jobs. It gives

0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:45.640
<v Speaker 5>a lot more room, and I think there's a really

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 5>strong argument for it, and I think it is absolutely

0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 5>worth bringing that debate back and understanding which scenario and

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 5>if you're going to revisit that, and what's the greatest

0:29:56.800 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 5>outcome to bring it back, and council members can do that.

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 4>Council members can put.

0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:05.240
<v Speaker 5>Something like that on the ballot with a major or

0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 5>super majority vote, right and it doesn't take a whole

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 5>bunch of signatures to put it on the ballot. So

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:12.760
<v Speaker 5>I think that should be one of the top things

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:14.600
<v Speaker 5>that Council does when in the new term.

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, because you know, obviously I'm old as Mathuselah, but

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:22.520
<v Speaker 1>I remember a time when Issue five was not in effect,

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 1>the so called protections of Issue five were not in effect.

0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 1>And you go back in history the chiefs of police here,

0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Larry Whale and Tom Striker. There is no way on

0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:38.640
<v Speaker 1>God's green earth that they would have tolerated the abuse

0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:43.239
<v Speaker 1>that Chief Fiji has had to tolerate because they had

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:46.160
<v Speaker 1>that civil service protection and they had to be fired

0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 1>for a reasonable cause. Again, that's just my that's just my.

0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:53.360
<v Speaker 4>Opinion, it's true.

0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:55.280
<v Speaker 5>And you know what this is going to end up being.

0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 5>With all these lawsuits with the fire chief, potentially with

0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:01.440
<v Speaker 5>the police chief, payers are going to have to put

0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 5>the bill. It is going to be a very very

0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:06.120
<v Speaker 5>hapty bill and we are going to be spending a

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:09.120
<v Speaker 5>lot of money that again should be going to actual

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:13.160
<v Speaker 5>things that impact residents, and it's going to be settlements

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:17.360
<v Speaker 5>because of poor, poor leadership, particularly on the elected official

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 5>side down the City Hall.

0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:22.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, and doing my research for this keating, I

0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:26.040
<v Speaker 1>found out that you are the last Republican not just

0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:30.880
<v Speaker 1>in Cincinnati City Council, but the last Republican council member

0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:36.400
<v Speaker 1>of any of Ohio's six largest cities. And I remember

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:39.320
<v Speaker 1>back to your term that you've just finished off, and

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 1>I always thought, how is she going to do this?

0:31:41.840 --> 0:31:44.400
<v Speaker 2>And what from what I could see you did?

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Then? What you say if you're elected, you're going to

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 1>do now, work with these people so you're not on

0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:54.880
<v Speaker 1>an island deserted out there if you get back on council.

0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Does that make sense?

0:31:57.400 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely?

0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:01.160
<v Speaker 5>And it's so important to have a voice and actually

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:04.400
<v Speaker 5>drive out the debate. I mean, there was many pieces

0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:08.080
<v Speaker 5>of legislation that I disagreed with, but I still worked hard.

0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:11.080
<v Speaker 5>I still went in research day, better understood all sides,

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 5>and then made amendments to it so I could make

0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 5>it a little bit better. Even though at the end

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:17.480
<v Speaker 5>of the day and the final piece I voted no.

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 5>I voted it down, but I made a lot of

0:32:19.640 --> 0:32:22.120
<v Speaker 5>amendments along the way just to make it better, maybe

0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:25.680
<v Speaker 5>less damaging to the city because I strongly disagreed with something.

0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:26.960
<v Speaker 4>Things like that are so.

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 5>Critical right now we only we have one party rule.

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 5>There's not much debate. You hear a lot of speeches

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:34.960
<v Speaker 5>that are you know, this is why I'm voting yes,

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 5>or this is why I'm voting no. But there's no

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:39.959
<v Speaker 5>there's no debate into why are we even doing this?

0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:42.720
<v Speaker 5>What problem are we trying to solve? You know, do

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 5>we have weak points in this legislation, Maybe we should

0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 5>be fixing it. And the other great thing is if

0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:51.719
<v Speaker 5>you have somebody that is on the other side, that

0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:55.400
<v Speaker 5>is the Republican Party, is the super majority veto proof

0:32:56.280 --> 0:33:00.480
<v Speaker 5>legislators in the state House, and you have no relationationship

0:33:00.560 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 5>down at city Hall with the majority party in the

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:04.120
<v Speaker 5>state House.

0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:05.560
<v Speaker 4>And that was another role that.

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:07.920
<v Speaker 5>I played to be able to continue to have strong

0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 5>and productive conversations with what's happening in Columbus so they

0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 5>can better understand the issues happening in urban areas. Because

0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:19.680
<v Speaker 5>if there's no representation in these major cities, these economic epicenters,

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:22.280
<v Speaker 5>it's a problem. Then some of the legislation might not

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 5>be may not be the best thing for these areas,

0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 5>these big cities, and we need that, we need to

0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 5>have good conversations, strong relationships that trust there and also

0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:37.080
<v Speaker 5>be able to drive productive debate locally where you know

0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:38.720
<v Speaker 5>you are in a super minority.

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Yep, lizy got a minute. We got a minute left.

0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:44.280
<v Speaker 1>Anything that you want to say.

0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 5>In that minute, Lizinati, it is time for change. We

0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 5>have to have people get out to vote. You can

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 5>vote today, you can vote tomorrow and early vote, or

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:58.600
<v Speaker 5>go vote on election day. We deatherately need people to

0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:00.920
<v Speaker 5>show up to vote if you want to see something different,

0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:03.719
<v Speaker 5>have a different direction for a city of Cincinnati. I

0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 5>love the city way too much to let it continue

0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:08.000
<v Speaker 5>the way it is, and I know the rest of

0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:10.359
<v Speaker 5>you do too. So please please please.

0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 4>Get out to vote.

0:34:11.200 --> 0:34:14.680
<v Speaker 5>Do not vote all nine and make sure your voice

0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:17.240
<v Speaker 5>is heard. We've got to have change on city council.

0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 2>Very well, put Liz Keating.

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:20.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad I got a chance to talk to you

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:22.960
<v Speaker 1>this morning, and best of luck on Tuesday.

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much.

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:28.399
<v Speaker 2>You have a wonderful day you too, Thank you well.

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:31.279
<v Speaker 1>I tell you what, I obviously i'd love to see

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:34.520
<v Speaker 1>her back on council. I really would. And you know what,

0:34:35.400 --> 0:34:38.480
<v Speaker 1>she's got a chance of breaking through, I think, as

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:41.200
<v Speaker 1>does the next person we're going to be talking to

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:46.400
<v Speaker 1>after the break that's Steve Gooden, also former Cincinnati City

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Council member. It took an interesting kind of route in

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:53.120
<v Speaker 1>doing what he needed to do to revive the Charter Party,

0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:55.320
<v Speaker 1>which I think is good for this city.

0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 2>Charters running a slate of candidates.

0:34:57.400 --> 0:34:59.399
<v Speaker 1>And anyway, when we get back, we're going to talk

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:02.360
<v Speaker 1>to Steve about what he would do if he returns

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 1>to count Radio News Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen

0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:14.440
<v Speaker 1>an hour two of Saturday Midday talking to the candidates

0:35:14.480 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 1>for Cincinnati City Council and Cincinnati Mayor. I'll tell you

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 1>what the next guy. I know you're going to recognize him.

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:27.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking, of course, about our political analyst, Steve good

0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 1>excuse me, legal analysts also politics as well. Steve served

0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:37.560
<v Speaker 1>on Cincinnati City Council, was appointed twenty twenty to twenty

0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:41.560
<v Speaker 1>twenty one. Unfortunately that time he was not elected. He

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 1>has the endorsement, in my humble opinion, but the only

0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:49.000
<v Speaker 1>one that matters these days, of FOP Lodge sixty nine,

0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:51.640
<v Speaker 1>as does Liz Keating. I should have mentioned that, but

0:35:51.719 --> 0:35:52.240
<v Speaker 1>I didn't.

0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:53.160
<v Speaker 6>Steve.

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:56.520
<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Saturday Midday in kind of a new

0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 1>role here.

0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:02.080
<v Speaker 2>Yay, Good morning, Mike, takes it's my pleasure. Hey, let

0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:03.799
<v Speaker 2>me ask you this, Steve, what.

0:36:03.760 --> 0:36:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Made you decide to run again for Cincinnati City Council

0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 1>knowing that the city is about three one democrat now

0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:12.320
<v Speaker 1>these days.

0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:16.759
<v Speaker 3>Well, I got to a point, Mike, where I just

0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:20.239
<v Speaker 3>couldn't take it anymore. You know, I live over in

0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:22.680
<v Speaker 3>the Clinton Neighborhood, have been involved in the community council

0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:27.040
<v Speaker 3>for a number of years. There is no more left

0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:31.120
<v Speaker 3>wing progressive neighborhood in the city than the Clifton Gaslight District.

0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:35.879
<v Speaker 3>I am a lone conservative over the year, but get

0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:39.560
<v Speaker 3>along with my neighbors. And this neighborhood was fed up

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:43.279
<v Speaker 3>with city council. This neighborhood was fed up with AFTAB

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:47.080
<v Speaker 3>because of the uptick in violence and property crimes that

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:52.560
<v Speaker 3>we saw, because of the homelessness situation that has developed, particularly.

0:36:52.080 --> 0:36:52.640
<v Speaker 2>In our park.

0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:56.520
<v Speaker 3>They couldn't take it anymore, and I couldn't take it anymore.

0:36:56.600 --> 0:36:59.799
<v Speaker 3>And it occurred to me that if this neighborhood was

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:03.120
<v Speaker 3>to stand up and break with this council and break

0:37:03.160 --> 0:37:05.319
<v Speaker 3>with this mayor, both of whom got, like you know,

0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:07.799
<v Speaker 3>almost eighty percent of the vote in this neighborhood, then

0:37:07.880 --> 0:37:10.120
<v Speaker 3>my God, the rest of the city was sped up

0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:12.840
<v Speaker 3>as well. So I mean, this is this isn't some

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:15.880
<v Speaker 3>overnight thing for either for me or for the city.

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:18.799
<v Speaker 3>This has been building over the last four years. The

0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:22.600
<v Speaker 3>city is more violent, it is more divided, it is dirtier.

0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:25.239
<v Speaker 3>It is just a harder place to live in than

0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:27.520
<v Speaker 3>it was four years ago. And I don't care if

0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 3>you're a Democrat or Republican or communist or whatever you are. Like,

0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 3>it's unavoidable and I think everyone's ready for some fresh voices.

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:40.319
<v Speaker 3>And that's why I really have been pushed to do

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:45.319
<v Speaker 3>this by people across the political spectrum, and it just

0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:47.160
<v Speaker 3>felt like it was time to step up. I mean,

0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:49.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm also in a position of my life where I'm

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 3>not trying to start some big, grand political career. I

0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:53.759
<v Speaker 3>just want to go down there, as I say, I

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:56.440
<v Speaker 3>want to bring some grumpy old man energy because I

0:37:56.480 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 3>really don't care. I'm not really politically correct about it.

0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:02.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't really care what people think. We're not poll

0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:05.800
<v Speaker 3>testing anything that we say or do. We're just saying

0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:08.680
<v Speaker 3>this is what the city needs from a common sense standpoint.

0:38:08.680 --> 0:38:10.880
<v Speaker 3>If you'll love it, vote us in. If you don't,

0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:13.919
<v Speaker 3>that's fine. We'll go back to work on Wednesday morning

0:38:14.000 --> 0:38:15.919
<v Speaker 3>with a smile on our face, knowing that we tried

0:38:15.960 --> 0:38:19.080
<v Speaker 3>to raise these issues, but we have gotten a tremendous,

0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:21.839
<v Speaker 3>tremendous response and we feel very good about it.

0:38:22.000 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, let me kind of dovetail that with something of

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:27.440
<v Speaker 1>you and I have talked a little bit about what

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:30.400
<v Speaker 1>went into and why did you decide? And I know

0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:32.719
<v Speaker 1>it's just not you, but you're the guy that did it.

0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:35.799
<v Speaker 1>Why did you decide to kind of re energize the

0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Charter Party, which again I think is a fantastic idea

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:44.239
<v Speaker 1>given the history of Charter in this city and the

0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:47.600
<v Speaker 1>good things they've done through the years. What made you

0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:48.520
<v Speaker 1>decide to do that?

0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:50.960
<v Speaker 7>Well, a couple of things.

0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:53.400
<v Speaker 3>Look, I've always been Look I'm a registered Republican, but

0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:56.759
<v Speaker 3>I've always been involved in the Charter Party for many, many,

0:38:56.800 --> 0:38:58.960
<v Speaker 3>many years, and it was my turn to be chairman

0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:02.440
<v Speaker 3>a couple years ago, and it just seemed to me

0:39:02.600 --> 0:39:05.560
<v Speaker 3>the best vehicle to reach the most people. I mean,

0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:08.520
<v Speaker 3>the Charter Party has always been the good Government party.

0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:11.600
<v Speaker 3>It's been around since nineteen twenty four. You know, we're

0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:14.880
<v Speaker 3>the ones that basically the Charter Party created with Murray

0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:18.640
<v Speaker 3>season Good that the actual current form of government that

0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 3>we have that I guess still does need to be

0:39:21.160 --> 0:39:23.600
<v Speaker 3>continually tweaked, because you have every season. Good would tell

0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 3>you it always has to evolve to deal with the times.

0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:31.120
<v Speaker 3>But they were the anti corruption party. They ended Bosses

0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:33.400
<v Speaker 3>and they took on Boss Cox, they took on what

0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:36.160
<v Speaker 3>was at the time very corrupt single party rule back

0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:38.960
<v Speaker 3>in the twenties, which ironically were Republicans. And as we

0:39:38.960 --> 0:39:41.799
<v Speaker 3>looked at city Hall, you've got just you know, we've

0:39:41.800 --> 0:39:44.680
<v Speaker 3>had three corruption based the rest in the last five years.

0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:48.640
<v Speaker 3>You have an all democratic council and a democratic mayor,

0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:52.879
<v Speaker 3>a city manager who is clearly not acting independently as

0:39:53.000 --> 0:39:55.279
<v Speaker 3>is required under the charter. And it felt like that

0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:58.560
<v Speaker 3>is the heart of the problem. But we also, as

0:39:59.239 --> 0:40:02.360
<v Speaker 3>the charter ticket does not take positions on national issues.

0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:04.120
<v Speaker 3>So and I think that's one of the things that's

0:40:04.160 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 3>always killed common sense candidates for city counts on the

0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:11.000
<v Speaker 3>last couple of cycles, is where they nationalize the issues

0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:13.040
<v Speaker 3>and trying to make it all about Donald Trump or

0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:15.759
<v Speaker 3>the last time it was all about abortion and all

0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:17.879
<v Speaker 3>these things, and we just don't get involved work here

0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:20.319
<v Speaker 3>that the old charter, you know, joke is that there's

0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:23.160
<v Speaker 3>no Republican or Democratic way to fix a pothole. At

0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:25.720
<v Speaker 3>the end of the day, somebody just wants a pothole fixed.

0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:30.279
<v Speaker 3>And we also realize too that the Charter Party has

0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:33.719
<v Speaker 3>a really good history of working with people in the

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:35.600
<v Speaker 3>black community, whether it be you know, back in the

0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:38.400
<v Speaker 3>day Ted Berry who was the first black mayor, Marriott Spencer,

0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:41.200
<v Speaker 3>all the way up through ty Yates and kind of

0:40:41.200 --> 0:40:44.720
<v Speaker 3>bridging gaps between Republicans and Democrats. Because we have a mix,

0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:48.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, in our committee and a lot of folks

0:40:48.320 --> 0:40:50.520
<v Speaker 3>in those neighborhoods, we're hearing from a lot of whom

0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:54.880
<v Speaker 3>the black neighborhoods have the same concerns that they haven't Clifton,

0:40:54.920 --> 0:40:56.360
<v Speaker 3>that they have in High Park, that they have in

0:40:56.440 --> 0:40:58.840
<v Speaker 3>the west Wood and Price Hill. And the joke that

0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:00.839
<v Speaker 3>we've been saying is we're giving the same speech whether

0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:02.800
<v Speaker 3>we're in Bond Hill or Price Hill, or we're getting

0:41:02.840 --> 0:41:06.080
<v Speaker 3>the same reaction. People just know what it's like not

0:41:06.160 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 3>to be listened to. So we felt the Charter Party

0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:11.960
<v Speaker 3>was absolutely the right way to go with it, and

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:14.400
<v Speaker 3>we have all these candidates that are on that ticket

0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:17.520
<v Speaker 3>are all aligned on getting more cops on the street

0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:21.319
<v Speaker 3>and there was a public safety that's too nice. We

0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:24.120
<v Speaker 3>need more police on the street, probably up to three

0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:26.440
<v Speaker 3>hundred and fifty more if we're really going to seriously

0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:28.600
<v Speaker 3>police this city the way it needs to be. And

0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:30.560
<v Speaker 3>also we want to get rid of all this kind

0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:34.040
<v Speaker 3>of crazy zoning stuff, including this connected community thing that

0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:37.880
<v Speaker 3>they've done, which will just absolutely got our neighborhoods with

0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of in garbage housing that nobody wants. Yeah,

0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:43.000
<v Speaker 3>so you know, we're aligned on those issues, and it

0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:45.000
<v Speaker 3>just felt like the right way. There's a lot of people,

0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:46.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, who are going to vote for Charter people

0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:49.960
<v Speaker 3>and Democrats and Republicans, and we think that's the way

0:41:49.960 --> 0:41:53.520
<v Speaker 3>this government works best when you got everybody represented, Steve.

0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:55.160
<v Speaker 1>I got to ask you this question. I'm asking it

0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 1>at every one. I'm pretty sure I know the answer.

0:41:57.560 --> 0:42:00.320
<v Speaker 1>What do you think is the most important issue faeeing

0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:03.759
<v Speaker 1>the city? And if elected, what would you do to

0:42:04.480 --> 0:42:07.239
<v Speaker 1>make that problem go away or make it go away

0:42:07.280 --> 0:42:08.160
<v Speaker 1>as best you can?

0:42:09.760 --> 0:42:14.360
<v Speaker 3>Look, we have a police staffing crisis, like period, full stop.

0:42:14.400 --> 0:42:16.960
<v Speaker 3>It's been building for years. Back when when Smitherwin and

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:20.000
<v Speaker 3>I were on council, we tried to address it by

0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:22.160
<v Speaker 3>taking some of the COVID federal money and putting it

0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:24.879
<v Speaker 3>aside so we could do three D recruit classes that

0:42:25.040 --> 0:42:28.880
<v Speaker 3>didn't hold. A council has a spending problem. They spend

0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:32.919
<v Speaker 3>money on stupid pet projects. Millions per year on things

0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:35.959
<v Speaker 3>like urban gardening and dance lessons and all these things

0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:39.360
<v Speaker 3>that that are almost too ridiculous. When I talk about it,

0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:42.680
<v Speaker 3>people think you must be kidding. I'm not. I mean, really,

0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:44.800
<v Speaker 3>is a council member who thinks that we can stop

0:42:44.800 --> 0:42:48.279
<v Speaker 3>gun violence by handing out fruit and vegetables to young

0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:50.239
<v Speaker 3>men who might be I'm not kidding, like like he's

0:42:50.239 --> 0:42:53.600
<v Speaker 3>a really ripe tomato, don't shoot the guy. It's absurd.

0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:57.120
<v Speaker 3>And they've spent millions on this stuff rather than than putting,

0:42:57.440 --> 0:43:01.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, putting that money into into police recruit classes

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:05.160
<v Speaker 3>and recruiting laterals and getting our staffing levels where they

0:43:05.200 --> 0:43:08.719
<v Speaker 3>need to be. I mean, it's an absolute disgrace. You know,

0:43:08.760 --> 0:43:11.319
<v Speaker 3>what's occurred here and what they've allowed to occur. We

0:43:11.360 --> 0:43:14.480
<v Speaker 3>need at least three hundred, maybe four hundred new police

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:16.920
<v Speaker 3>officers over the next two years if we're even going

0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:19.080
<v Speaker 3>to be keep up with the retirements that are going

0:43:19.120 --> 0:43:21.319
<v Speaker 3>on and actually do they kind of beat policing that

0:43:21.400 --> 0:43:24.320
<v Speaker 3>we know works. So that is the number one priority.

0:43:24.400 --> 0:43:27.799
<v Speaker 3>You cannot have a city, you cannot have a civil society,

0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:31.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, if you don't have an adequate police force.

0:43:32.120 --> 0:43:34.600
<v Speaker 3>And that is our situation here. Our police officers there,

0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:36.759
<v Speaker 3>morales and a toilet. We don't even really have a

0:43:36.880 --> 0:43:41.560
<v Speaker 3>chief right now. Politics is everywhere in the department, the

0:43:41.719 --> 0:43:45.200
<v Speaker 3>rank and file officers, despite their contract, and see how

0:43:45.200 --> 0:43:47.520
<v Speaker 3>the chief is being treated and how everyone and the

0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:52.120
<v Speaker 3>other command staff being treated. It is just a terrible, terrible,

0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:53.920
<v Speaker 3>terrible way to run a city and it needs to

0:43:53.960 --> 0:43:56.040
<v Speaker 3>be fixed top to bottom or we're not going to

0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:57.120
<v Speaker 3>have a city to talk about.

0:43:57.440 --> 0:43:59.759
<v Speaker 1>I think you just addressed the next question I was

0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:02.759
<v Speaker 1>going to ask if you thought that Chief Fiji had

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:06.600
<v Speaker 1>been treated fairly. I think clearly i'm hearing your answer

0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:07.279
<v Speaker 1>that would be.

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:12.200
<v Speaker 3>No, absolutely, yes, absolutely. Look, I mean I had big

0:44:12.239 --> 0:44:15.839
<v Speaker 3>issues with Chief Fiji's performance down the stretch. I mean

0:44:15.880 --> 0:44:18.640
<v Speaker 3>I have big issues. I do believe that over time

0:44:18.680 --> 0:44:20.920
<v Speaker 3>should become kind of part of the problem. And my view,

0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:24.640
<v Speaker 3>particularly on this issue about police statistics. I mean, I mean,

0:44:24.680 --> 0:44:27.160
<v Speaker 3>the mayor and council have a gigantic. The biggest problem

0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:29.840
<v Speaker 3>is a credibility problem, because they spent all summer telling

0:44:29.920 --> 0:44:32.640
<v Speaker 3>us we didn't have a real uptick in shootings, we

0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:35.759
<v Speaker 3>weren't really seeing more gun violence. It's all the statistics

0:44:35.760 --> 0:44:37.920
<v Speaker 3>will bear this out. It's really not what it seems.

0:44:38.239 --> 0:44:39.360
<v Speaker 3>And then all of a sudden they got to a

0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:41.760
<v Speaker 3>point where they couldn't deny it anymore. So they basically

0:44:41.760 --> 0:44:44.480
<v Speaker 3>spent the summer line and the chief was kind of

0:44:44.480 --> 0:44:46.080
<v Speaker 3>part of that. I have to say it, and I

0:44:46.080 --> 0:44:48.239
<v Speaker 3>mean I was very critical of her at times, but

0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:50.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying this. And you were in the army too,

0:44:50.560 --> 0:44:52.600
<v Speaker 3>You know how it is to be an officer. This

0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:56.080
<v Speaker 3>isn't how you remove someone. This isn't how you deal

0:44:56.160 --> 0:44:58.440
<v Speaker 3>with the change of command. Even if they have a

0:44:58.520 --> 0:45:00.680
<v Speaker 3>case against her, which I mean that convinced they really do.

0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:03.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think really what she did was implement

0:45:03.360 --> 0:45:05.400
<v Speaker 3>these policies they told her to implement them. When they

0:45:05.400 --> 0:45:07.680
<v Speaker 3>didn't work, they cut her loose. And that's I think

0:45:07.719 --> 0:45:10.600
<v Speaker 3>that's really what happened here. But even if they even

0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:13.880
<v Speaker 3>if she had done something actually wrong, this isn't the

0:45:13.920 --> 0:45:15.600
<v Speaker 3>way you do it. You don't play this out in

0:45:15.640 --> 0:45:18.399
<v Speaker 3>public you have to be mindful of the impact as

0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:20.320
<v Speaker 3>will have on the morale of the rank and file.

0:45:21.160 --> 0:45:23.920
<v Speaker 3>It just shows that these folks have no real experience

0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:27.800
<v Speaker 3>in the real world, either in law enforcement, military, or

0:45:27.840 --> 0:45:32.360
<v Speaker 3>even just basic business experience. This isn't how you manage

0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:36.200
<v Speaker 3>a large urban police department. So I do feel for her.

0:45:36.239 --> 0:45:38.279
<v Speaker 3>There was no need to humiliate her a treat her

0:45:38.280 --> 0:45:40.280
<v Speaker 3>the way they have, and I'm sorry. As a lawyer,

0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:41.799
<v Speaker 3>I can tell you they're going to end up paying

0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:44.640
<v Speaker 3>it at the end of the day, with taxpayer dollars.

0:45:44.680 --> 0:45:47.120
<v Speaker 3>She's going to get paid. That's the only way this happens,

0:45:47.160 --> 0:45:50.160
<v Speaker 3>otherwise if they don't pay her. I'd love to see

0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:53.279
<v Speaker 3>the trial where she lays out all these private conversations

0:45:53.280 --> 0:45:54.880
<v Speaker 3>she had with our mayor and the chief and the

0:45:54.880 --> 0:45:57.960
<v Speaker 3>council where they talk about these goopy progressive policies that

0:45:58.239 --> 0:46:00.000
<v Speaker 3>just you have almost ruined the city.

0:46:00.200 --> 0:46:01.719
<v Speaker 2>You're right, and I'll tell you what.

0:46:01.760 --> 0:46:03.680
<v Speaker 1>They're going to have to back up the Brins truck

0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:07.480
<v Speaker 1>to city Hall for that settlement, as well as the

0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:08.160
<v Speaker 1>fire chief.

0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:09.239
<v Speaker 2>I got to ask you this.

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:11.600
<v Speaker 1>It's very important to me and I think others and

0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:15.160
<v Speaker 1>I should mention that you did receive the FOP endorsement

0:46:15.680 --> 0:46:19.399
<v Speaker 1>Issue five back in two thousand. You're familiar with it, Hunt,

0:46:19.440 --> 0:46:20.279
<v Speaker 1>you steve what it was.

0:46:21.120 --> 0:46:21.319
<v Speaker 7>Yep.

0:46:21.520 --> 0:46:22.200
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay, here's my question, if elected, re elected or technically

0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:29.080
<v Speaker 1>I guess not re elected, if you go back to council,

0:46:29.640 --> 0:46:33.279
<v Speaker 1>will you do what you can do to see that

0:46:33.280 --> 0:46:36.880
<v Speaker 1>that either gets back on the ballot or at least

0:46:36.960 --> 0:46:39.960
<v Speaker 1>it is clipped somewhat. Because I'm telling you right now,

0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:43.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm old enough to know this. If Issue five did

0:46:43.840 --> 0:46:46.799
<v Speaker 1>not succeed in the year two thousand, we wouldn't be

0:46:46.840 --> 0:46:49.839
<v Speaker 1>going through all this nonsense with the police chief. Will

0:46:49.880 --> 0:46:53.120
<v Speaker 1>you do whatever is in your power to see that

0:46:53.120 --> 0:46:55.200
<v Speaker 1>that is put back on the ballot.

0:46:56.400 --> 0:46:58.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Mike, absolutely. It either needs to be straight out

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:02.279
<v Speaker 3>repealed or see significantly reworked. And I mean, just to

0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:06.239
<v Speaker 3>remind your audience, really, what it did was Issue five

0:47:06.560 --> 0:47:11.120
<v Speaker 3>gave the mayor really and the city manager the ability

0:47:11.200 --> 0:47:15.200
<v Speaker 3>to remove, basically remove the police chief from civil service protection.

0:47:15.520 --> 0:47:17.800
<v Speaker 3>You know, the rank and file police officers have a contract,

0:47:17.840 --> 0:47:20.239
<v Speaker 3>they have a process. You can't just fire them. And

0:47:20.280 --> 0:47:24.120
<v Speaker 3>that's because police officers face false charges all the time.

0:47:24.400 --> 0:47:26.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean, people claim that they were injured and arrests,

0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:29.120
<v Speaker 3>and they were not. It's just it comes with the job,

0:47:29.200 --> 0:47:32.240
<v Speaker 3>so they have to have some protection against false claims.

0:47:32.280 --> 0:47:34.640
<v Speaker 3>But really, what Issue five did is put the police

0:47:34.680 --> 0:47:37.439
<v Speaker 3>chief at the borgency of the political leadership. At the time,

0:47:37.520 --> 0:47:39.520
<v Speaker 3>that was hailed as this big reform that would make

0:47:39.600 --> 0:47:42.840
<v Speaker 3>the police department more responsive to the civilians and to voters,

0:47:43.239 --> 0:47:45.960
<v Speaker 3>et cetera. But we also see now it has led

0:47:46.000 --> 0:47:48.640
<v Speaker 3>to a scenario where where you know where political pressure

0:47:48.680 --> 0:47:51.080
<v Speaker 3>can be brought to bear and just to absolutely demoralize

0:47:51.080 --> 0:47:54.480
<v Speaker 3>the police department. So it absolutely needs to be revisited.

0:47:55.360 --> 0:47:57.520
<v Speaker 3>I also believe that at the end of the day, though,

0:47:57.560 --> 0:48:00.279
<v Speaker 3>we cannot talk about this without also talking about the

0:48:00.280 --> 0:48:03.920
<v Speaker 3>city manager. For years, the Charter Party has been saying

0:48:03.960 --> 0:48:05.759
<v Speaker 3>that you ought to be able to remove that that

0:48:05.840 --> 0:48:08.080
<v Speaker 3>the city manager should also be able to be right

0:48:08.120 --> 0:48:10.120
<v Speaker 3>now can be removed. The mayor should be able to

0:48:10.160 --> 0:48:12.439
<v Speaker 3>be removed by a majority of council as well. That's

0:48:12.560 --> 0:48:16.239
<v Speaker 3>the only way to make the city manager more responsible

0:48:16.239 --> 0:48:18.520
<v Speaker 3>and in the chain of command, really, the city manager

0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:21.440
<v Speaker 3>is the one who is directly over the police chief.

0:48:21.520 --> 0:48:24.120
<v Speaker 3>So I think if we're really going to bring accountability here,

0:48:24.600 --> 0:48:29.920
<v Speaker 3>rather than having the police chiefs more at the mercy

0:48:29.920 --> 0:48:32.280
<v Speaker 3>of the politicians is to actually be the city manager

0:48:32.440 --> 0:48:35.080
<v Speaker 3>who should have to answer more directly to council and

0:48:35.120 --> 0:48:37.839
<v Speaker 3>to have some checks and balances and to keep this

0:48:38.280 --> 0:48:41.560
<v Speaker 3>sort of nonsensical situation going on. Right now, you can

0:48:41.640 --> 0:48:45.239
<v Speaker 3>tell from the public record that there are backdoor conversations

0:48:45.239 --> 0:48:47.960
<v Speaker 3>going on about personnel matters there in particularly regards to

0:48:48.000 --> 0:48:51.319
<v Speaker 3>the police chief that are just inappropriate, bad business, and

0:48:51.360 --> 0:48:53.560
<v Speaker 3>we need to make that more transparent and open. So

0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:56.040
<v Speaker 3>an Issue five is a big part of that. And

0:48:56.080 --> 0:48:58.200
<v Speaker 3>whether or not the city manager can be fired by

0:48:58.280 --> 0:49:00.920
<v Speaker 3>council is another big part of that piece. They're a puzzle.

0:49:01.040 --> 0:49:04.440
<v Speaker 1>You're absolutely right, Steve, And the city of Cincinnati was

0:49:04.640 --> 0:49:07.759
<v Speaker 1>at least until Issue five, unique in that the chief

0:49:07.800 --> 0:49:10.279
<v Speaker 1>of police, fire chief, and I think some other officials

0:49:10.600 --> 0:49:13.480
<v Speaker 1>had that civil service protection. And I can guarantee you,

0:49:13.520 --> 0:49:15.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've been around long enough to know to

0:49:15.800 --> 0:49:19.720
<v Speaker 1>make this statement definitively, had you had a chief striker,

0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:23.600
<v Speaker 1>chief Whalen, that those chiefs did not have to deal

0:49:23.680 --> 0:49:25.759
<v Speaker 1>with the issue of Issue five, you wouldn't have this

0:49:26.000 --> 0:49:27.880
<v Speaker 1>crap that's going on in the city now.

0:49:28.120 --> 0:49:30.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I feel very confident saying that.

0:49:31.880 --> 0:49:32.680
<v Speaker 7>Oh absolutely.

0:49:32.680 --> 0:49:34.320
<v Speaker 3>And I think one of the things that we've lost

0:49:34.360 --> 0:49:38.080
<v Speaker 3>here is that the police chief under that system had

0:49:38.080 --> 0:49:42.160
<v Speaker 3>the independence to push back against the election officials, you know,

0:49:42.239 --> 0:49:44.440
<v Speaker 3>and say, hey, look good it, we're not staff properly.

0:49:46.080 --> 0:49:48.879
<v Speaker 3>Your kind of your lack of enforcement of low level

0:49:48.920 --> 0:49:53.440
<v Speaker 3>crimes isn't working. Your friends, mister mayor and council members

0:49:53.480 --> 0:49:56.640
<v Speaker 3>over at the courthouse are letting people out that archives

0:49:56.719 --> 0:50:00.120
<v Speaker 3>arrest within twenty four hours with guns, and they She

0:50:00.160 --> 0:50:03.120
<v Speaker 3>would have an independent chief as the ability to push

0:50:03.120 --> 0:50:06.239
<v Speaker 3>back and raise those issues. I mean, right now, politics

0:50:06.280 --> 0:50:09.080
<v Speaker 3>has crept into every last part of the upper achelon

0:50:09.160 --> 0:50:11.279
<v Speaker 3>of that department over there, and I mean, look, there

0:50:11.320 --> 0:50:14.040
<v Speaker 3>were times when Chief Deji was forced into a position

0:50:14.560 --> 0:50:18.600
<v Speaker 3>or she had to provide political cover for the city

0:50:18.640 --> 0:50:22.520
<v Speaker 3>manager infin the mayor. And it's an absolute corruption of

0:50:22.560 --> 0:50:24.480
<v Speaker 3>our system. It's not the way it's supposed to work.

0:50:24.480 --> 0:50:26.400
<v Speaker 3>She's supposed to be out there for the rank and

0:50:26.400 --> 0:50:28.800
<v Speaker 3>file officers and to protect the public and to really

0:50:28.840 --> 0:50:31.279
<v Speaker 3>talk bluntly about what we need and don't need in

0:50:31.360 --> 0:50:33.960
<v Speaker 3>terms of staffing and resources. And she was not. She

0:50:34.080 --> 0:50:36.080
<v Speaker 3>was part I have to have used to introduce her

0:50:36.080 --> 0:50:38.400
<v Speaker 3>as quote part of their team, and that's not the

0:50:38.400 --> 0:50:40.680
<v Speaker 3>way it's supposed to be. The police chief is supposed

0:50:40.719 --> 0:50:42.080
<v Speaker 3>to be with the police in the public.

0:50:42.200 --> 0:50:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Yep, Hey, Steve, Unfortunately we're out of time, but best

0:50:45.000 --> 0:50:47.520
<v Speaker 1>of luck on Tuesday. I think you've put yourself in

0:50:47.560 --> 0:50:50.520
<v Speaker 1>a position to get back on there and we wish

0:50:50.640 --> 0:50:51.680
<v Speaker 1>all the luck in the world.

0:50:52.719 --> 0:50:53.919
<v Speaker 7>You know, it feels really good.

0:50:53.920 --> 0:50:55.960
<v Speaker 3>We're going over to the Board of Elections to remind

0:50:56.000 --> 0:50:58.640
<v Speaker 3>everyone you can still vote early through tomorrow afternoon at

0:50:58.640 --> 0:51:01.959
<v Speaker 3>four pm to come down, and it is kind of cold,

0:51:02.040 --> 0:51:04.359
<v Speaker 3>crappy out, but come on down.

0:51:04.680 --> 0:51:05.560
<v Speaker 7>We'll be there all weekend.

0:51:05.719 --> 0:51:08.839
<v Speaker 2>All right, Thanks Steve, take care, thank you?

0:51:08.960 --> 0:51:12.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, that was Steve Gooden, a charter candidate

0:51:12.800 --> 0:51:13.800
<v Speaker 1>for city council.

0:51:14.120 --> 0:51:16.160
<v Speaker 2>I think he's got a shot at breaking through.

0:51:16.239 --> 0:51:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Even as we've been saying, in a three to one

0:51:19.160 --> 0:51:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Democrat city, I think Steve's got a chance of cracking

0:51:22.160 --> 0:51:22.840
<v Speaker 1>that nine.

0:51:23.080 --> 0:51:25.000
<v Speaker 2>We shall see. Hey, we got to take a break.

0:51:25.000 --> 0:51:27.359
<v Speaker 1>Button we get back, we're going to be talking to

0:51:27.600 --> 0:51:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Corey Bowman, who I'm sure y'all know is a candidate

0:51:31.200 --> 0:51:34.560
<v Speaker 1>for mayor. I think he's done an incredible job. I

0:51:34.560 --> 0:51:36.560
<v Speaker 1>think he's done an amazing job. We're going to talk

0:51:36.600 --> 0:51:39.400
<v Speaker 1>to him about what he would do if he is

0:51:39.480 --> 0:51:42.120
<v Speaker 1>elected mayor of the City of Cincinnati. We'll do that

0:51:42.160 --> 0:51:46.160
<v Speaker 1>when we get back Mike Allen. Back Mike Allen, Saturday midday,

0:51:46.360 --> 0:51:51.240
<v Speaker 1>moving on with our discussion with candidates for city council,

0:51:51.960 --> 0:51:54.560
<v Speaker 1>our next best candidate for mayor, and we're going to

0:51:55.000 --> 0:51:59.640
<v Speaker 1>talk to Josh Berkewitz next Judge joshsh Berkowitz about his

0:51:59.800 --> 0:52:02.719
<v Speaker 1>real election efforts. But with that, I want to talk

0:52:02.760 --> 0:52:05.719
<v Speaker 1>to Corey Bowman. He is the founding pastor of The

0:52:05.840 --> 0:52:10.120
<v Speaker 1>River Church in Cincinnati, co owner of King's Arms Coffeehouse.

0:52:10.440 --> 0:52:13.319
<v Speaker 1>He's an Ohio native, graduate of the former School of

0:52:13.360 --> 0:52:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Business at Miami, and I should mention before I forget

0:52:17.160 --> 0:52:19.400
<v Speaker 1>he is also FOP endorsed.

0:52:19.640 --> 0:52:22.400
<v Speaker 2>Corey. Thanks so much for checking in with us this morning.

0:52:24.000 --> 0:52:24.280
<v Speaker 7>Mike.

0:52:24.320 --> 0:52:26.360
<v Speaker 8>Thank you so much to you and your listeners for

0:52:26.440 --> 0:52:28.920
<v Speaker 8>having me. I'm sorry for any noise in the background.

0:52:29.000 --> 0:52:32.320
<v Speaker 8>Work in the West End today volunteering at Saint Vincent

0:52:32.360 --> 0:52:33.560
<v Speaker 8>DePaul for their food panter.

0:52:34.080 --> 0:52:36.600
<v Speaker 1>There you go. The weekend before election is one that

0:52:37.200 --> 0:52:39.799
<v Speaker 1>candidates who are serious are out there working it. And

0:52:40.280 --> 0:52:43.560
<v Speaker 1>I think Corey, you have run an incredible campaign. I

0:52:43.600 --> 0:52:46.319
<v Speaker 1>think when it was first announced, a lot of people thought, Hey,

0:52:46.719 --> 0:52:50.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, here's the cannon fodder for our mayor candidate.

0:52:51.160 --> 0:52:53.360
<v Speaker 2>Nothing could be further from the truth.

0:52:53.680 --> 0:52:57.600
<v Speaker 1>You're working it hard on a lot of people's opinion,

0:52:58.120 --> 0:52:59.920
<v Speaker 1>You're talking about the right issues.

0:53:00.080 --> 0:53:02.840
<v Speaker 2>So with that, I wanted to ask you. I know

0:53:02.920 --> 0:53:03.319
<v Speaker 2>I know the.

0:53:03.320 --> 0:53:05.320
<v Speaker 1>Answer to this question, but I'm going to ask you anyway,

0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:10.120
<v Speaker 1>what do you feel is the major issue facing Cincinnati

0:53:10.160 --> 0:53:13.440
<v Speaker 1>City Council and the mayor at this point in time.

0:53:15.400 --> 0:53:18.120
<v Speaker 8>Well, I think we've got to eliminate the opinion that

0:53:18.200 --> 0:53:21.160
<v Speaker 8>Skyline's better than gold Star, because gold Star is a

0:53:21.200 --> 0:53:24.040
<v Speaker 8>clear winner on this thing, and that's what people really

0:53:24.040 --> 0:53:24.560
<v Speaker 8>care about.

0:53:24.600 --> 0:53:25.160
<v Speaker 7>My gallum.

0:53:25.520 --> 0:53:27.279
<v Speaker 2>You know what, thank you for correcting me.

0:53:27.680 --> 0:53:31.200
<v Speaker 1>What would you say that is the second most important issue.

0:53:32.360 --> 0:53:34.840
<v Speaker 8>By the way, I love gold I love the Skyline

0:53:34.880 --> 0:53:38.200
<v Speaker 8>as well. I love them both, But I definitely think

0:53:38.239 --> 0:53:41.759
<v Speaker 8>that people it's obvious that the issue at hand is

0:53:41.840 --> 0:53:45.480
<v Speaker 8>public safety. Public safety, public safety, that is what people

0:53:45.520 --> 0:53:49.239
<v Speaker 8>care about. That's why our FOP endorsement so vital in

0:53:49.280 --> 0:53:52.480
<v Speaker 8>this because we've had the conversations with cops, We've had

0:53:52.480 --> 0:53:54.759
<v Speaker 8>the conversations with the people that know how to get

0:53:54.760 --> 0:53:58.080
<v Speaker 8>the job done. We know what's happening that is preventing

0:53:58.160 --> 0:54:01.080
<v Speaker 8>that from taking place in our city. And that's what

0:54:01.080 --> 0:54:03.239
<v Speaker 8>we're going to be focusing on as mayor of Cincinnati.

0:54:03.719 --> 0:54:07.000
<v Speaker 1>If elected, Mayor Corey, what will be the first thing

0:54:07.080 --> 0:54:09.640
<v Speaker 1>you do? I mean, the mayor's got some power, more

0:54:09.680 --> 0:54:14.280
<v Speaker 1>than ordinary council members, which was the history for a while,

0:54:14.400 --> 0:54:17.480
<v Speaker 1>but the mayor's got some clout and got some jews.

0:54:17.680 --> 0:54:19.719
<v Speaker 2>What will be the first thing that you do on

0:54:19.760 --> 0:54:20.879
<v Speaker 2>the crime issue?

0:54:22.760 --> 0:54:25.000
<v Speaker 8>Well, the first thing is obviously we have to be

0:54:25.040 --> 0:54:28.080
<v Speaker 8>able to work with everybody at City Hall. And so

0:54:28.520 --> 0:54:31.760
<v Speaker 8>going into January, we're going to have a new council

0:54:32.000 --> 0:54:35.160
<v Speaker 8>or whatever the elected council is. That's what we're going

0:54:35.200 --> 0:54:37.400
<v Speaker 8>to be going into to work with. We have to

0:54:37.440 --> 0:54:40.200
<v Speaker 8>be able to assess the city manager's office properly.

0:54:40.239 --> 0:54:41.000
<v Speaker 6>We have to be able to.

0:54:41.000 --> 0:54:43.759
<v Speaker 8>Assess all of the boards and committees to make sure

0:54:43.760 --> 0:54:46.719
<v Speaker 8>that the right people are in and from my perspective,

0:54:46.760 --> 0:54:49.920
<v Speaker 8>this isn't about Republican or Democrats. This is about making

0:54:49.960 --> 0:54:52.560
<v Speaker 8>sure that people are in these positions to have a

0:54:52.560 --> 0:54:54.680
<v Speaker 8>heart for our city and that don't have a heart

0:54:54.719 --> 0:54:58.480
<v Speaker 8>for their own personal agendas. Or their own political careers. Now,

0:54:58.480 --> 0:55:01.680
<v Speaker 8>once we get past that, we've got to do three things.

0:55:01.840 --> 0:55:04.040
<v Speaker 8>We've got to allow the officers to do their job.

0:55:04.200 --> 0:55:08.480
<v Speaker 8>I know that that sounds very simple and overly simplified,

0:55:08.560 --> 0:55:10.799
<v Speaker 8>but the reality of it is that when we see

0:55:10.840 --> 0:55:14.520
<v Speaker 8>the litigation that's coming forth from Chief CG and the

0:55:14.560 --> 0:55:18.400
<v Speaker 8>details of that, that is confirmed that from the top down,

0:55:18.760 --> 0:55:22.040
<v Speaker 8>these officers and even the chief have been not able

0:55:22.080 --> 0:55:24.480
<v Speaker 8>to do their jobs properly as far as enforcing the

0:55:24.520 --> 0:55:28.680
<v Speaker 8>low level crime, the exhalation tactics, and making sure that

0:55:28.760 --> 0:55:32.080
<v Speaker 8>they do things properly. Number Two, we've got to bring

0:55:32.200 --> 0:55:36.160
<v Speaker 8>the complement levels up. We are twenty percent understaff right now.

0:55:36.440 --> 0:55:39.000
<v Speaker 8>That has to be a priority, not in an election year,

0:55:39.480 --> 0:55:41.680
<v Speaker 8>not during the summer. That has to be a priority

0:55:41.719 --> 0:55:44.680
<v Speaker 8>from day one. We have to implement lateral hiring. And

0:55:44.800 --> 0:55:47.920
<v Speaker 8>once the lateral hiring class realizes that we have strong

0:55:48.000 --> 0:55:50.480
<v Speaker 8>leadership in place, we're going to make sure that we

0:55:50.640 --> 0:55:54.320
<v Speaker 8>have the proper staffing in our police department. And then finally,

0:55:54.680 --> 0:55:58.560
<v Speaker 8>we have to put pressure on the judges privately at first,

0:55:58.600 --> 0:56:00.360
<v Speaker 8>and if they do not comply, we have to do

0:56:00.400 --> 0:56:02.840
<v Speaker 8>it publicly and make sure they know we have the

0:56:02.880 --> 0:56:05.800
<v Speaker 8>whole criminals accountable. We have to make sure our streets

0:56:05.800 --> 0:56:06.480
<v Speaker 8>are safe.

0:56:06.960 --> 0:56:08.640
<v Speaker 2>You know, just as in aside.

0:56:09.239 --> 0:56:11.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm about ninety percent retired, but I do have a

0:56:11.640 --> 0:56:13.960
<v Speaker 1>couple of cases left. I was there in the courthouse

0:56:14.080 --> 0:56:17.640
<v Speaker 1>this week and I couldn't believe it. I mean the

0:56:17.800 --> 0:56:21.520
<v Speaker 1>lack of cases that not only in the municipal Court

0:56:21.840 --> 0:56:25.800
<v Speaker 1>but in Common Police Court as well. Cops just aren't

0:56:26.160 --> 0:56:30.359
<v Speaker 1>being proactive and aggressive like they used to be. When

0:56:30.440 --> 0:56:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I say that, I mean appropriately proactive and aggressive.

0:56:34.640 --> 0:56:36.000
<v Speaker 2>What can you do.

0:56:35.960 --> 0:56:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Corey Bowman as mayor to address that issue? So the

0:56:39.960 --> 0:56:43.160
<v Speaker 1>cops are out there again like they used to be,

0:56:43.160 --> 0:56:46.960
<v Speaker 1>being aggressive and being proactive, what do you think you

0:56:47.000 --> 0:56:49.480
<v Speaker 1>could do as mayor to get that back to where

0:56:49.520 --> 0:56:49.880
<v Speaker 1>it was.

0:56:50.080 --> 0:56:52.080
<v Speaker 2>I know you weren't around then, but I was.

0:56:52.200 --> 0:56:56.319
<v Speaker 1>And it's just amazing the drop in the number of

0:56:56.400 --> 0:56:59.600
<v Speaker 1>cases in both Common Police and Municipal Court.

0:57:00.920 --> 0:57:01.080
<v Speaker 6>Well.

0:57:01.120 --> 0:57:03.880
<v Speaker 8>Also, let's we have to mention too that the jails

0:57:04.040 --> 0:57:07.040
<v Speaker 8>are empty. We have two hundred beds and empty, and

0:57:07.080 --> 0:57:09.600
<v Speaker 8>then that's not including the two floors that are locked

0:57:09.640 --> 0:57:12.080
<v Speaker 8>down that haven't been used. So a lot of people say, oh,

0:57:12.080 --> 0:57:14.040
<v Speaker 8>the jails are overrun, No they're not.

0:57:14.560 --> 0:57:15.640
<v Speaker 6>But what we have to do.

0:57:16.160 --> 0:57:20.040
<v Speaker 8>It might seem simplified, but when the cops, the officers,

0:57:20.040 --> 0:57:22.920
<v Speaker 8>the police chiefs and everybody knows that they are strong

0:57:23.040 --> 0:57:26.160
<v Speaker 8>leadership in place that will back them up, they will

0:57:26.280 --> 0:57:29.040
<v Speaker 8>enforce the law. Now, this isn't trying to go against

0:57:29.080 --> 0:57:32.160
<v Speaker 8>the collaborative agreement, This isn't trying to go against the

0:57:32.200 --> 0:57:36.040
<v Speaker 8>common sense of accountability and transparency that has to be

0:57:36.120 --> 0:57:39.520
<v Speaker 8>on our officers. But whenever they feel like they're on

0:57:39.600 --> 0:57:43.000
<v Speaker 8>pins and needles with every situation, they can't approach, they

0:57:43.040 --> 0:57:45.960
<v Speaker 8>can't just ask simple questions. They don't feel like the

0:57:45.960 --> 0:57:48.360
<v Speaker 8>city has their back, they don't feel like City Hall

0:57:48.440 --> 0:57:50.840
<v Speaker 8>has their backs. That's going to change from day one

0:57:50.920 --> 0:57:54.280
<v Speaker 8>of our administration, whether it be with public press comptons,

0:57:54.400 --> 0:57:56.800
<v Speaker 8>whether it be with meetings with the entirety of all

0:57:56.880 --> 0:57:59.560
<v Speaker 8>the officers, letting them know that we've got their back,

0:58:00.720 --> 0:58:03.720
<v Speaker 8>and our policies are actually going to back that up

0:58:03.760 --> 0:58:06.320
<v Speaker 8>as well. Our hiring is going to back that up,

0:58:06.640 --> 0:58:09.120
<v Speaker 8>our funding is going to back that up, and our

0:58:09.160 --> 0:58:11.160
<v Speaker 8>pressure on the courts is going to back that up.

0:58:11.800 --> 0:58:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

0:58:12.560 --> 0:58:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this, I'm asking all the council

0:58:15.440 --> 0:58:19.200
<v Speaker 1>and mayor canidates this, do you think Chief Fiji was

0:58:19.240 --> 0:58:23.200
<v Speaker 1>given a fair shake by the city administration in all

0:58:23.240 --> 0:58:26.080
<v Speaker 1>the hubbub of the last I don't know, six weeks

0:58:26.160 --> 0:58:26.880
<v Speaker 1>or a month or so.

0:58:28.400 --> 0:58:30.560
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, and I think that you know what we saw

0:58:30.640 --> 0:58:32.600
<v Speaker 8>over the summer months. There was a lot of people

0:58:32.640 --> 0:58:35.480
<v Speaker 8>in my comments sections that were telling me to call

0:58:35.560 --> 0:58:38.040
<v Speaker 8>for the resignation of the firing of Police Chief Fiji.

0:58:38.480 --> 0:58:41.200
<v Speaker 8>But I told people that the only person I'm calling

0:58:41.240 --> 0:58:43.960
<v Speaker 8>to be fired is that to have Purvoll on November fourth,

0:58:44.640 --> 0:58:47.040
<v Speaker 8>and once we get in place there we can actually

0:58:47.080 --> 0:58:50.200
<v Speaker 8>see what's going on. Our suspicions, which have been confirmed

0:58:50.240 --> 0:58:53.480
<v Speaker 8>by this litigation from Chief Fiji, is that the chief

0:58:53.960 --> 0:58:58.320
<v Speaker 8>was actively trying to fight crime in practical ways with

0:58:58.440 --> 0:59:00.920
<v Speaker 8>pressure on the courts, with the things when it came

0:59:00.960 --> 0:59:03.720
<v Speaker 8>to enforcing low level crimes, and she got a flat

0:59:03.760 --> 0:59:06.880
<v Speaker 8>out no from City Hall, from the City manager's office.

0:59:07.160 --> 0:59:09.640
<v Speaker 8>And when you look at the letters and the messages

0:59:09.720 --> 0:59:12.600
<v Speaker 8>that have come from the City Manager's office to the

0:59:12.640 --> 0:59:15.920
<v Speaker 8>police chief, that is not allowing a police chief to

0:59:15.960 --> 0:59:19.080
<v Speaker 8>do their job. That is a gag order, that is

0:59:19.440 --> 0:59:23.960
<v Speaker 8>non disclosure agreement, that is fear tactics, and that cannot happen.

0:59:24.080 --> 0:59:27.640
<v Speaker 8>We need a chief to be able to know that,

0:59:27.800 --> 0:59:29.720
<v Speaker 8>no matter what, they are going to do their job

0:59:29.800 --> 0:59:32.400
<v Speaker 8>properly and they're going to have the backing of City Hall.

0:59:32.880 --> 0:59:35.560
<v Speaker 1>That is so important I think, and I know a

0:59:35.600 --> 0:59:38.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of other people think that as well. We're also

0:59:38.480 --> 0:59:41.880
<v Speaker 1>discussing with all the candidates the matter of Issue five

0:59:42.040 --> 0:59:45.200
<v Speaker 1>back in two thousand. I know you weren't here then, Corey,

0:59:45.400 --> 0:59:48.680
<v Speaker 1>but I'm sure you do know about it. If elected

0:59:48.800 --> 0:59:52.160
<v Speaker 1>as mayor, would you do everything within the mayor's power

0:59:52.640 --> 0:59:55.960
<v Speaker 1>to see that that is put back in front of

0:59:56.040 --> 0:59:59.000
<v Speaker 1>the voters of the City of Cincinnati to reconsider it.

0:59:59.040 --> 1:00:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Because I've been around long enough Corey Bowman to know

1:00:02.200 --> 1:00:06.280
<v Speaker 1>that if Issue five had not passed and the Chief

1:00:06.320 --> 1:00:09.320
<v Speaker 1>of police, and let me mention too, I was reminded

1:00:09.360 --> 1:00:12.560
<v Speaker 1>by a former chief of police just she texted me

1:00:12.920 --> 1:00:17.360
<v Speaker 1>not only the chief, the assistant chiefs lost civil service

1:00:17.440 --> 1:00:21.280
<v Speaker 1>protection when Issue five passed in the year two thousand.

1:00:21.520 --> 1:00:24.080
<v Speaker 1>I guess it's all a long way of saying, will

1:00:24.080 --> 1:00:26.120
<v Speaker 1>you do what you can to get that back before

1:00:26.160 --> 1:00:27.160
<v Speaker 1>the voters.

1:00:28.400 --> 1:00:30.439
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, well, so, I think that we have to hear

1:00:30.480 --> 1:00:32.640
<v Speaker 8>from the voices of the cops. We have to hear

1:00:32.680 --> 1:00:35.640
<v Speaker 8>from the voices of those that actually have stake in

1:00:35.680 --> 1:00:38.040
<v Speaker 8>the matter, and when you hear them, that's what I'm

1:00:38.080 --> 1:00:40.640
<v Speaker 8>hearing right now. I would continue to have more conversations

1:00:40.640 --> 1:00:42.960
<v Speaker 8>to make sure that we're hearing from every group and

1:00:43.080 --> 1:00:46.760
<v Speaker 8>every perspective. But what we're hearing right now, based on

1:00:46.840 --> 1:00:49.440
<v Speaker 8>conversations I'm having right now, the issue five was a

1:00:49.520 --> 1:00:53.680
<v Speaker 8>major issue that has caused problems for the leadership in

1:00:53.800 --> 1:00:56.800
<v Speaker 8>CINCINNATIPD and we got to be able to look at that.

1:00:56.960 --> 1:00:59.360
<v Speaker 8>And if they're a ballot initiative needs to be put

1:00:59.720 --> 1:01:02.640
<v Speaker 8>out to be able to give people the choice, then

1:01:02.720 --> 1:01:05.280
<v Speaker 8>we would do everything we can to give people that choice.

1:01:05.840 --> 1:01:08.040
<v Speaker 2>That's what needs to happen. I'll tell you what I mean.

1:01:08.080 --> 1:01:09.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know a lot about a lot, but I

1:01:09.960 --> 1:01:12.200
<v Speaker 1>think I know a lot about a little. And when

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<v Speaker 1>that thing passed, and I think it was fifty two

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight, I mean it was really close. I said

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<v Speaker 1>to myself, this is going to be an absolute disaster.

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<v Speaker 1>It took a while for the disaster to set in,

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<v Speaker 1>but it certainly has. And I know from talking to

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<v Speaker 1>Ken Kobert that the FOP is jassed up to get

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<v Speaker 1>it back on the ballot if that's possible. So I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate your comments on that. I wanted to ask you too,

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<v Speaker 1>did you see I guess it came out yesterday, reported

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday some new videos of what I call the downtown

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<v Speaker 1>beatdown the way The Inquirer had their headline how new

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<v Speaker 1>videos of downtown brawl shake up Cincinnati's mayoral election.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, did you see it? If you did,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you think?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>Sorry for the noise in the background here, but I

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<v Speaker 8>saw it, and I actually called a press conference on

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<v Speaker 8>forth and Album last night to discuss it. I wanted

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<v Speaker 8>to make it very clear that, you know, whenever we

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<v Speaker 8>get to be mayor of Cincinnati next year, one of

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<v Speaker 8>the biggest things we have to run on is transparency.

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<v Speaker 7>There's a very big.

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<v Speaker 8>Difference between telling the public that the details will come

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<v Speaker 8>out and that the investigation is ongoing, versus purposely with

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<v Speaker 8>holding information that could diffuse a situation in our city.

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<v Speaker 8>In the summer months when this fight happened, there was

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<v Speaker 8>so much division and unrest between groups of people, between

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<v Speaker 8>people living downtown, even from a racial aspect, and a

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<v Speaker 8>lot of this stuff could have been diffused if all

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<v Speaker 8>the information could have been brought forth. Now we're hearing

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<v Speaker 8>that the mayor didn't even want to see the full footage,

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<v Speaker 8>and then when the city was asked to present these

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<v Speaker 8>videos to the media, they were rejected. Now, I sins

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<v Speaker 8>two weeks, three weeks after the and I understand let

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<v Speaker 8>the investigators do their job well when it's months afterwards,

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<v Speaker 8>and this is critical information that could help ease the

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<v Speaker 8>division and the unrest in our downtown area. But you're

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<v Speaker 8>allowing that to just be hindered. Then that shows me

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<v Speaker 8>that in an election year, you're just trying to divide

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<v Speaker 8>people and you're just trying to get people to be

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<v Speaker 8>stacked up against each other. As a mayor, I know

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<v Speaker 8>that everybody sees as a Republican or Democrat. You're not

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<v Speaker 8>voting for Republican or Democrats with Corey Bowman, You're voting

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<v Speaker 8>for a Cincinnati And I'm going to.

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<v Speaker 7>Fight for people that hate me.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm going to fight for people that live in our city.

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<v Speaker 8>And that's what we need from city hall. We don't

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<v Speaker 8>need this partisan battle that copy and paste from national politics.

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<v Speaker 8>We need people that can have safe streets, clean streets,

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<v Speaker 8>and prosperous streets. And that's what we're going to focus on.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha, Hey, we got about two minutes left. Corey Bowman,

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<v Speaker 1>what would you like to say in those two minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>as we are three days out from the election.

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<v Speaker 8>I would say that if if you were a person

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<v Speaker 8>that has not gotten involved in these elections in the past,

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<v Speaker 8>because you haven't seen anybody that represents you on the ballot.

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<v Speaker 8>This year, we have twenty seven strong candidates for council

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<v Speaker 8>and we have an option for mayor of Cincinnati, and

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<v Speaker 8>I would encourage people, if you haven't gotten out to

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<v Speaker 8>vote and these off your elections, get out to vote.

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<v Speaker 8>And then for those that might be iffy about who

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<v Speaker 8>to vote for, I would encourage you vote outside your

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<v Speaker 8>comfort zone and consider that new leadership in place that

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<v Speaker 8>has a heart for this city and that knows how

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<v Speaker 8>to surround themselves with the people that have a heart

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<v Speaker 8>for the city and practically can implement policies that can

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<v Speaker 8>protect our people. Then vote for Corey Bowman for Mayor

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<v Speaker 8>of Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 5>We're in the.

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<v Speaker 8>Final days right now. We've got early voting that's happening

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<v Speaker 8>today and tomorrow. There's no early voting on Monday, and

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<v Speaker 8>then Tuesday the polls are open. This is one of

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<v Speaker 8>the most critical elections in the history of our city

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<v Speaker 8>and everybody's got to participate.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, Corey.

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<v Speaker 1>One really appreciates you taking time out from your very

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<v Speaker 1>busy day to talk to us about all this and

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<v Speaker 1>good luck on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 8>Hey, we're meeting at Pryce Hill Chili at one pm

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<v Speaker 8>today to go drop literature. If anybody wants to meet

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<v Speaker 8>us there.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, Thanks Coreyell, Okay, all right, that was

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<v Speaker 1>Corey Bowman, candidate for mayor. You know I should have

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<v Speaker 1>told him to price shll chili. I put them in

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<v Speaker 1>the top three of chile in the City of Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 2>But hey, that's just me. Seriously, though, I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 1>When he was announced as a candidate, all that well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, he'll make a name for himself and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe run for counsel at some point.

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<v Speaker 2>I completely turn that around. He has done an amazing

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<v Speaker 2>job of articulating the issues that I think people in

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<v Speaker 2>the City of Cincinnati are talking about. Again, you got

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<v Speaker 2>a three to one voting advantage for Democrats in the

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<v Speaker 2>City of Cincinnati. But this is a.

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<v Speaker 1>Different kind of election, this is a different kind of year.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Corey's got a shot at breaking through, and man,

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<v Speaker 1>how that would improve this city. Hey, we got to

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<v Speaker 1>take a break, but when we get back, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to switch gears a little bit and talk judicial with

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Josh Berkowitz. He's of the Hamilton County Municipal Court.

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<v Speaker 1>He's up for election on Tuesday as well. We'll do

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<v Speaker 1>that when we get back. Mike Allen, Saturday Midday.

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<v Speaker 2>News Radio seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Allen with hour three, which is the third and

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<v Speaker 1>final hour of Saturday Midday, going to do a little

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<v Speaker 1>segue here. Been talking about mayor and council all morning,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're want to talk about Municipal Court District four

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<v Speaker 1>and Judge Josh Berkowitz is the judge in that position,

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<v Speaker 1>and he has been since two thousand and fifteen, ten

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<v Speaker 1>years experience as a municipal court judge, and I can

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<v Speaker 1>tell you over that ten years, I've appeared before him

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<v Speaker 1>any number of times representing clients and he is incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>fair and that's all you can ask for out of

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<v Speaker 1>a judge. He was the former law director of the

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<v Speaker 1>City in Norwood, an assistant Hamilton County and Franklin County prosecutor.

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<v Speaker 2>Judge. Thanks so much for joining us this morning.

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks Mike, Thanks for having me on, Hey.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you briefly explain your judicial district and how the

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<v Speaker 1>districts work. I don't want to take a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>your time, but I don't think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>understand that it's not, and it hasn't been for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, a county wide.

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<v Speaker 9>Election, right, So, municipal cory in Hamilton County are we.

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<v Speaker 7>Have fourteen judges.

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<v Speaker 9>We take cases from all over Hamilton County, but we

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<v Speaker 9>run in districts, seven geographical districts. There's two judges elected

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<v Speaker 9>from each district. My district is kind of the southeast

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<v Speaker 9>of the county. So if you imagine a map, Norwoods

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<v Speaker 9>right in the middle, and you move east from there

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<v Speaker 9>through kind of the east side of Cincinnati, Oakley, Hyde Park,

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<v Speaker 9>Mount Lookout, Mount Washington, and then all of Anderson Township, Marymont, Newtown,

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<v Speaker 9>kind of the east end along Kellogg and the Ohio

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<v Speaker 9>River there, kind of bending into downtown.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotcha.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you doing that, and in your opinion the

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<v Speaker 1>importance of municipal court. I've heard it referred to as

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<v Speaker 1>the McDonald's of the justice system, not in a negative right,

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<v Speaker 1>in a positive way, because you all got to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with everything and it's the court that most citizens I

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<v Speaker 1>think get their impressions of the judicial system.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you have anything to add with that or do

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<v Speaker 2>you agree with it?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh?

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<v Speaker 9>Absolutely, I mean we are the people's court. This is

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<v Speaker 9>a really and this is a really exciting moment. You know,

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<v Speaker 9>here we are days before the election and this year,

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<v Speaker 9>I mean municipal court. You can't overstate the importance to

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<v Speaker 9>public safety.

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<v Speaker 3>It is.

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<v Speaker 9>Public safety is absolutely on the ballot right next to

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<v Speaker 9>me on Tuesday, and that's why this race is really critical,

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<v Speaker 9>critically important. The contrast could not be more stark between

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<v Speaker 9>myself and my record over ten years as a judge

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<v Speaker 9>and as you mentioned, eight years as an assistant prosecutor

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<v Speaker 9>in two different counties, and my opponent, who is absolutely

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<v Speaker 9>part of the progressive political left. And that's what they

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<v Speaker 9>want to bring to the court or more of it,

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<v Speaker 9>and no doubt, no surprise, they don't want.

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<v Speaker 7>To talk about public safety.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, that's that's just not a priority. That's not

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<v Speaker 9>what you're seeing them talk about. Her supporters, the people

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<v Speaker 9>who put who put this candidate up against me. They

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<v Speaker 9>want to hear and talk about anything but public safety,

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<v Speaker 9>and that that shouldn't surprise anybody, because the reality is, uh,

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<v Speaker 9>that progressive kind of political and judicial philosophy, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>it now dominates the courthouse and the criminal justice.

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<v Speaker 7>System, as you know, Mike.

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<v Speaker 9>Uh, They've got the prosecutor, They've got the sheriff, they've

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<v Speaker 9>got a majority of the Common Pleas Court, the entire

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<v Speaker 9>Court of Appeals, they've got you know, Cincinnati police leadership and.

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<v Speaker 7>Meaning city Hall.

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<v Speaker 9>Uh, they've got the Public Defender's office, and the appeals court.

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<v Speaker 9>The municipal court has really been kind of the last

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<v Speaker 9>hold out there where we have judges uh, such as myself.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, my record has been consistent.

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<v Speaker 7>It's equal justice for all.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't buy into uh these these term the terminology

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<v Speaker 9>that you hear that sounds packaged up real real nights

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<v Speaker 9>like uh, smart justice. I mean, who would be opposed

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<v Speaker 9>to smart justice or you know, restorative justice. But uh,

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<v Speaker 9>you know when you when you kind of break it

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<v Speaker 9>down just a little bit and scratch just below the surface,

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<v Speaker 9>you figure out real quick that that kind of terminology

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<v Speaker 9>is just the same old kind of social justice replay

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<v Speaker 9>that we've seen in this community and around the country

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<v Speaker 9>kind of percolate up through colleges and law schools, and

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<v Speaker 9>now it's in the court system and it's been a

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<v Speaker 9>disaster everywhere.

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<v Speaker 7>So specifically, what I'm.

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<v Speaker 9>Talking about are things like no cash bail, which has

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<v Speaker 9>created the revolving door.

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<v Speaker 7>At the jail that you're familiar with.

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<v Speaker 9>We're talking about defunding the police, and people say, well,

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<v Speaker 9>defund the police. That never came to Cincinnati or you

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<v Speaker 9>know as well as I do, and Ken Kober will

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<v Speaker 9>tell you Cincinnati Police is one hundred and forty officers

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<v Speaker 9>below where their contract says that they're supposed to be.

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<v Speaker 9>When you're one hundred and forty officers, and that's an improvement,

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<v Speaker 9>by the way, there was two hundred officers.

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<v Speaker 7>Earlier in the year.

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<v Speaker 9>One hundred and forty officers below where the contract says

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<v Speaker 9>they should be. That's defund the police. That means you're

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<v Speaker 9>not devoting the resources necessary to fully staff your law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, the when you talk about smart justice or

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<v Speaker 9>restorative justice, Well that's the two or three hundred empty

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<v Speaker 9>beds at the Hamilt's County Justice Center and it's been.

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<v Speaker 7>That way for five years. Judgment policies are year years

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<v Speaker 7>in the making.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what I mentioned this before. I'm about

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<v Speaker 1>ninety percent retired. I've got two cases left. I was

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<v Speaker 1>there at the courthouse this week. I couldn't believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like a damn ghost town. Not just unicourt

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<v Speaker 1>courtrooms because I got into a couple of them, but

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<v Speaker 1>common pleas as well. It's stunning how the cases have dropped.

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<v Speaker 1>And as you just pointed out and others have said,

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<v Speaker 1>there's plenty of room at the end so to speak

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<v Speaker 1>at the Justice center. How do you explain that? And

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<v Speaker 1>I know you got to be careful what you say

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<v Speaker 1>as a judge, but is there anything you would have

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<v Speaker 1>to offer on that point?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I mean, look, there's no question there's been these

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<v Speaker 9>changes in philosophy from the bench in terms of bond

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<v Speaker 9>setting and in terms of sentencing, both in our court

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<v Speaker 9>and the Common Police Court.

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<v Speaker 7>And there's been.

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<v Speaker 9>Major changes in enforcement, particularly at City Hall. I mean

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<v Speaker 9>there's no question that they have, and they've essentially acknowledged

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<v Speaker 9>as much recently that they were telling officers to reduce

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<v Speaker 9>the number of arrests for what they call minor offenses.

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<v Speaker 9>They changed the way that they wanted officers to enforce

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<v Speaker 9>the law to be less proactive, to be less and

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<v Speaker 9>to be more reactive. More responding to calls for assistance

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<v Speaker 9>and less proactively enforced the law, whether you're talking about

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<v Speaker 9>traffic law, whether you're talking about you know, going after

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<v Speaker 9>illegal drugs or illegal guns, or trying to get at

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<v Speaker 9>the people who are actually responsible for the lion's share

1:14:11.720 --> 1:14:15.200
<v Speaker 9>of the violence in our community. And and and in

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<v Speaker 9>replacement of all that, you know, you hear this again.

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<v Speaker 9>You hear this flowery language like root causes, and I

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<v Speaker 9>hear that from my opponent and her supporters, uh that, well,

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<v Speaker 9>we need to address the root.

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<v Speaker 7>Causes all this.

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<v Speaker 9>When you hear somebody talk to you about root causes,

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<v Speaker 9>you better hold on to your wallet, Mike, because the

1:14:35.120 --> 1:14:40.000
<v Speaker 9>reality is that what that translates to is absolutely no

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<v Speaker 9>one will be held accountable for criminal conduct, and you're

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<v Speaker 9>gonna pay for it in the form of taxes going

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<v Speaker 9>to all these uh, all these treatment providers, all these

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<v Speaker 9>service providers. You know, they're gonna they're gonna make money

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<v Speaker 9>off of the situation, and no one's gonna be held accountable.

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<v Speaker 9>And who gets entirely forgotten in that situation the victims

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<v Speaker 9>of crime, yep, absolutely ignore. You're not going to hear

1:15:07.680 --> 1:15:10.479
<v Speaker 9>anything about the victims of crime from the people who

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<v Speaker 9>promote this progressive agenda.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this, judge, We've got about four

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<v Speaker 1>minutes left.

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<v Speaker 2>We got the election in just a couple of days.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you like to make a closing argument, so to speak,

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<v Speaker 1>in those about four minutes about what you want to

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<v Speaker 1>do if and when you're reelected, which I hope and

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<v Speaker 1>pray that you are.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, Mike, I've been consistent as a judge and

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<v Speaker 9>before that as a prosecutor.

1:15:40.120 --> 1:15:42.040
<v Speaker 7>Public safety has always.

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<v Speaker 2>Been a priority of my career.

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<v Speaker 7>And it should be.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean it should be when you take the bench.

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<v Speaker 9>We have a direct impact through things like bond setting.

1:15:50.920 --> 1:15:54.679
<v Speaker 9>You know, the opposition would have you believe that municipal

1:15:54.720 --> 1:15:58.879
<v Speaker 9>court does nothing, but you know, jaywalking and littering tickets.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, it's really ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 9>We set bonds on more than a thousand cases every week.

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<v Speaker 7>And when you have judges.

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<v Speaker 9>Who bring a political agenda to that process and they're

1:16:14.000 --> 1:16:17.040
<v Speaker 9>not just applying the law as it's written, and they're

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<v Speaker 9>not treating victims with the seriousness that these cases demand,

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<v Speaker 9>then you get absurd results.

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<v Speaker 7>And that's what we're seeing.

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<v Speaker 9>When I do my job correctly, and I'm proud of

1:16:27.640 --> 1:16:30.360
<v Speaker 9>my record over the last ten years. When we do

1:16:30.479 --> 1:16:33.760
<v Speaker 9>our job correctly as judges, we have the opportunity to

1:16:33.800 --> 1:16:36.960
<v Speaker 9>deter criminal behavior. I mean, you don't hear about that,

1:16:37.320 --> 1:16:40.360
<v Speaker 9>but jail deters criminal behavior. There are people who have

1:16:40.439 --> 1:16:43.240
<v Speaker 9>come back to see me, who have thanked me, who

1:16:43.320 --> 1:16:45.519
<v Speaker 9>have said that they didn't want to go back to jail,

1:16:45.640 --> 1:16:48.000
<v Speaker 9>and so they got sober, so they got a job,

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<v Speaker 9>so they turn their lives around.

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<v Speaker 7>That happens.

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<v Speaker 9>It happens more than anybody in the media or in

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<v Speaker 9>politics would want to believe or want you to believe.

1:16:58.760 --> 1:17:02.840
<v Speaker 9>Jail's incentive advised people to get help, to get to

1:17:02.880 --> 1:17:06.800
<v Speaker 9>get treatment. We have an opportunity to intervene directly to

1:17:06.920 --> 1:17:11.000
<v Speaker 9>disrupt cycles of violence and cycles of abuse and trauma.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, these are important opportunities.

1:17:13.920 --> 1:17:19.479
<v Speaker 9>And we also show victims and witnesses that our system works,

1:17:19.520 --> 1:17:22.000
<v Speaker 9>that it's functional, that it's fair, that they have a

1:17:22.640 --> 1:17:27.160
<v Speaker 9>real opportunity to get justice. And you know, the flip

1:17:27.200 --> 1:17:30.599
<v Speaker 9>side of that is when people see the revolving door

1:17:31.000 --> 1:17:35.000
<v Speaker 9>and they see no cash bail, and they see that

1:17:35.080 --> 1:17:38.479
<v Speaker 9>there's not police in their neighborhoods and that people aren't

1:17:38.520 --> 1:17:41.880
<v Speaker 9>being held accountable. You know, the message gets sent real

1:17:41.960 --> 1:17:47.639
<v Speaker 9>quickly that there's no consequences for criminal misbehavior, for criminal

1:17:47.640 --> 1:17:52.800
<v Speaker 9>conduct and just anti social behavior in general. So we

1:17:52.880 --> 1:17:55.920
<v Speaker 9>have a strong we have an opportunity to send a

1:17:55.960 --> 1:18:00.200
<v Speaker 9>really strong message not just to all the judges, to

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<v Speaker 9>all those offices that I mentioned, that this community expects

1:18:04.320 --> 1:18:08.560
<v Speaker 9>and demands that public safety be treated as the priority

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<v Speaker 9>that it is to everyone.

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<v Speaker 7>This is not a you know, it's.

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<v Speaker 9>Not one neighborhood out of another, or you know, a

1:18:14.439 --> 1:18:18.479
<v Speaker 9>wealthy neighborhood thing uh uh Indian Hill or Hyde Park.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, this is across the county. I really believe

1:18:22.000 --> 1:18:24.800
<v Speaker 9>that people are fed up with this. People who live,

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<v Speaker 9>especially in high crime neighborhoods, they want to see some accountability.

1:18:29.439 --> 1:18:31.960
<v Speaker 9>They want they want to they know who the dangerous

1:18:32.000 --> 1:18:34.599
<v Speaker 9>people are and they want them held accountable and taking

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<v Speaker 9>off the streets.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh.

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<v Speaker 7>People who want to get involved.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, this is a tremendous opportunity the last three days,

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<v Speaker 9>uh to get involved. And you can do that right now.

1:18:43.920 --> 1:18:46.680
<v Speaker 9>You can go to keep Judge Berkowitz dot com. You

1:18:46.720 --> 1:18:49.719
<v Speaker 9>can sign up to help on election day, you can donate,

1:18:49.800 --> 1:18:53.760
<v Speaker 9>you can share with your friends. Don't ever assume that

1:18:53.880 --> 1:18:56.960
<v Speaker 9>people know this stuff or people have an opinion. A

1:18:56.960 --> 1:18:58.839
<v Speaker 9>lot of people are going to show up on election

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<v Speaker 9>day and they have and they really don't know where

1:19:02.240 --> 1:19:05.840
<v Speaker 9>I stand or where my opponent stands. The ballot doesn't

1:19:05.840 --> 1:19:09.080
<v Speaker 9>tell them anything about party affiliation. It doesn't tell them

1:19:09.080 --> 1:19:12.479
<v Speaker 9>anything that I'm the judge or the incumbent, and that

1:19:13.040 --> 1:19:16.599
<v Speaker 9>my opponent has never held elective office before. It doesn't

1:19:16.640 --> 1:19:19.280
<v Speaker 9>tell them anything about you know, who's endorsed me or

1:19:19.760 --> 1:19:23.599
<v Speaker 9>who's endorsed my opponent. So we've got to reach those

1:19:23.640 --> 1:19:25.880
<v Speaker 9>folks ahead of time. And when you send a text

1:19:25.920 --> 1:19:29.559
<v Speaker 9>message or an email and you link my website or

1:19:29.560 --> 1:19:34.599
<v Speaker 9>my YouTube video, that goes a tremendously long way towards

1:19:35.040 --> 1:19:38.599
<v Speaker 9>getting that message across. This will be a low turnout election.

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<v Speaker 9>We know that, and so every single vote takes takes

1:19:43.320 --> 1:19:45.040
<v Speaker 9>a tremendous amount of significance.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Judge, I really appreciate you coming on. I

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<v Speaker 1>know how busy you are this weekend, and best of

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<v Speaker 1>luck on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks Mike. I really appreciate your time. This is this

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<v Speaker 7>is exciting.

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<v Speaker 9>We're going to get it done, and I really appreciate

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<v Speaker 9>your time, my pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, your honor. All right, that was Judge Josh Berkowitz.

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<v Speaker 1>And again I can only say what my experience has been,

1:20:08.960 --> 1:20:13.400
<v Speaker 1>and he's been an incredibly fair judge, and I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Know that you can say anything more.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, we got to take a short break, but we

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<v Speaker 1>will be back. Mike Allen Saturday Video seven hundred WLW.

1:20:21.479 --> 1:20:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Mike Allen in the closing a half hour of Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>Midday and batting cleanup today, which I think is appropriate,

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<v Speaker 1>is Christopher Smitheman. Christopher served on council. He also served

1:20:35.880 --> 1:20:38.839
<v Speaker 1>when he was on Council on the Law and Public

1:20:38.880 --> 1:20:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Safety Committee. I think that's going to serve him well

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<v Speaker 1>as he goes back to Cincinnati City Council. Has a

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<v Speaker 1>Master's in Counseling from Bowling Green, Bachelor's and Criminal Justice

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<v Speaker 1>in the Ohio State University. And he's very well versed

1:20:54.400 --> 1:20:57.479
<v Speaker 1>on crime and the crime issues. And he's one heck

1:20:57.520 --> 1:21:00.720
<v Speaker 1>of a financial advisor. I will add last thing I

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<v Speaker 1>want to say before I turn it over to Christopher.

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<v Speaker 1>He is enthusiastically endorsed by the Fraternal Order of Police. Christophers,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for taking time out of what I know is

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<v Speaker 1>a busy day for you today.

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<v Speaker 6>Mike Allen, Thank you so much for allowing me to

1:21:17.360 --> 1:21:20.000
<v Speaker 6>be on These are what we would call in your

1:21:20.120 --> 1:21:23.679
<v Speaker 6>space as a lawyer clothing argument.

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, and the jury is in the box, and we

1:21:29.040 --> 1:21:31.640
<v Speaker 10>hope that they've been listening to all of the evidence

1:21:32.240 --> 1:21:35.200
<v Speaker 10>that we've been putting in front of them, that we

1:21:35.280 --> 1:21:38.559
<v Speaker 10>can make a change in the city and that things

1:21:38.600 --> 1:21:40.120
<v Speaker 10>are not on the right track.

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<v Speaker 6>And so I think we've presented a pretty good case

1:21:43.479 --> 1:21:46.679
<v Speaker 6>for citizens and it's now time for them to show

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<v Speaker 6>up and vote. You know, my concern is that voter

1:21:49.479 --> 1:21:53.800
<v Speaker 6>turnout is low. There's apathy out there. You know, I'm

1:21:54.120 --> 1:21:57.760
<v Speaker 6>dropping in Camp Washington today as an example, and we're

1:21:57.800 --> 1:22:01.240
<v Speaker 6>just trying to encourage people to participate in the political process.

1:22:01.320 --> 1:22:05.320
<v Speaker 6>Because all fifty two neighborhoods, we're all one year. This

1:22:05.360 --> 1:22:09.880
<v Speaker 6>is one Cincinnati to our regional partners, you know, the

1:22:09.960 --> 1:22:13.040
<v Speaker 6>core is everything. So we want people to come to

1:22:13.080 --> 1:22:14.960
<v Speaker 6>the air and off and we want them to come

1:22:15.000 --> 1:22:18.160
<v Speaker 6>down to Jeff Rubi's. We want them to come to

1:22:18.200 --> 1:22:21.080
<v Speaker 6>the banks and enjoy the the you know, the Bengals

1:22:21.120 --> 1:22:24.479
<v Speaker 6>and Reds games and FC. There's so much going on

1:22:24.560 --> 1:22:28.360
<v Speaker 6>in our city. But if crime continues to hit in

1:22:28.439 --> 1:22:32.479
<v Speaker 6>the direction it is heading in. Our partners will not

1:22:32.720 --> 1:22:38.080
<v Speaker 6>feel safe. Capital we're talking investment dollars will be deployed

1:22:38.280 --> 1:22:41.400
<v Speaker 6>other places because there are other options. They can go

1:22:41.520 --> 1:22:44.720
<v Speaker 6>right over across the bridge. They can go to Indiana

1:22:44.840 --> 1:22:46.920
<v Speaker 6>as an example, they can go to Chicago, they can

1:22:47.000 --> 1:22:49.920
<v Speaker 6>go to Florida if they want to. So if we

1:22:49.960 --> 1:22:55.000
<v Speaker 6>don't turn things around to our city residents, money will

1:22:55.000 --> 1:22:57.760
<v Speaker 6>not come here, development will not happen, and we will

1:22:57.840 --> 1:23:01.120
<v Speaker 6>hit in that track and start looking like Shiticgo, which

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<v Speaker 6>I have no desire to look like Chicago. But how

1:23:05.320 --> 1:23:07.800
<v Speaker 6>do you think Chicago got the way it was? It

1:23:07.840 --> 1:23:11.479
<v Speaker 6>was incremental. It wasn't just overnight, so it was an

1:23:11.520 --> 1:23:16.479
<v Speaker 6>incremental process over time where crime got out of control,

1:23:16.880 --> 1:23:21.080
<v Speaker 6>the criminals started running things, and people began the flight,

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<v Speaker 6>move out of the city, move out into the suburbs.

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<v Speaker 6>We don't want to have that happen. We've done a

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<v Speaker 6>great job turning things around places like OTR in the Mohawk.

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<v Speaker 6>We want to make sure we continue to have that

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<v Speaker 6>kind of investment in our core. Now that's not saying

1:23:37.200 --> 1:23:40.840
<v Speaker 6>that our other fifty one neighborhood's like a bond Hill

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<v Speaker 6>who was very concerned about low income housing. That has

1:23:44.040 --> 1:23:48.599
<v Speaker 6>been placed there that's impacting their equity and their homes

1:23:49.120 --> 1:23:52.800
<v Speaker 6>where they've been investing lots of money, and they're very

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<v Speaker 6>concerned about what's happening there, or what's happening in Evingston,

1:23:56.960 --> 1:23:59.680
<v Speaker 6>or what happened in Hyde Park and Mount Lookout, or

1:23:59.720 --> 1:24:02.559
<v Speaker 6>what's happening in Camp where North Side. You know, the

1:24:02.640 --> 1:24:05.679
<v Speaker 6>housing has gotten so expensive that people are now moving

1:24:05.680 --> 1:24:10.440
<v Speaker 6>into the Camp and that neighborhood is having a transformative

1:24:10.439 --> 1:24:14.400
<v Speaker 6>time right now. My point is that Cincinnati, whether it's

1:24:14.439 --> 1:24:20.080
<v Speaker 6>Mount Washington, whether it's California, whether it's Columbia Tusculum, we

1:24:20.160 --> 1:24:24.639
<v Speaker 6>could turn things around, but we cannot allow our core

1:24:24.920 --> 1:24:28.479
<v Speaker 6>to fall. We can't have people shooting our Fountain Square,

1:24:28.760 --> 1:24:32.360
<v Speaker 6>shooting off of Fountain Square. We can't have youth that

1:24:32.439 --> 1:24:35.720
<v Speaker 6>are thirteen and fourteen carrying guns on the banks. We

1:24:35.800 --> 1:24:37.400
<v Speaker 6>put our lot. I put a lot of time and

1:24:37.520 --> 1:24:40.599
<v Speaker 6>energy in the creation of the door. I don't want

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<v Speaker 6>this to implode because parents can't keep control of their kids.

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<v Speaker 6>We need our cops. I've been listening to your show,

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<v Speaker 6>Mike Allen. Look, we clearly have attrition. We've got two

1:24:51.880 --> 1:24:54.760
<v Speaker 6>hundred cops in Drops. We know that that's going to

1:24:54.760 --> 1:24:57.559
<v Speaker 6>continue to accelerate. One of the things you'll see me

1:24:57.640 --> 1:25:01.479
<v Speaker 6>do is go in and reassure those cops that are

1:25:01.520 --> 1:25:05.000
<v Speaker 6>thinking about retiring that I have their back and that

1:25:05.040 --> 1:25:07.800
<v Speaker 6>we need them, and that we need them to train

1:25:07.920 --> 1:25:11.640
<v Speaker 6>the new cops that we are hiring, because that institutional

1:25:11.680 --> 1:25:15.559
<v Speaker 6>memory is so important when those young cops come out

1:25:15.600 --> 1:25:18.880
<v Speaker 6>of training and they're in that six month probation, we

1:25:18.920 --> 1:25:21.760
<v Speaker 6>don't want to lose all that institutional memory. So you'll

1:25:21.760 --> 1:25:23.960
<v Speaker 6>see me going to roll calls. You'll see me doing

1:25:24.400 --> 1:25:27.479
<v Speaker 6>our ride along. You'll see me talking to the FOP

1:25:28.080 --> 1:25:31.080
<v Speaker 6>and the police chief, trying to write the ship and

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<v Speaker 6>send the message to our officers and our firefighters that

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<v Speaker 6>when things are bad, I have their back. When things

1:25:38.960 --> 1:25:42.160
<v Speaker 6>are good, they're back, and that we need them. If

1:25:42.160 --> 1:25:44.519
<v Speaker 6>we don't get a hold of crime, none of these

1:25:44.520 --> 1:25:46.160
<v Speaker 6>things that we're talking about matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Allas, you're so right, and you're also so right,

1:25:49.080 --> 1:25:52.120
<v Speaker 1>Christopher in saying that we've got to protect the core.

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<v Speaker 1>I live downtown for about twelve years, and it's been

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<v Speaker 1>a while. It's even better now. What we have down

1:25:58.360 --> 1:26:01.320
<v Speaker 1>there and on the riverfront is it's amazing. It's like

1:26:01.520 --> 1:26:05.040
<v Speaker 1>no other city in this country and we're in danger

1:26:05.120 --> 1:26:08.160
<v Speaker 1>of losing it if we still have the issue of

1:26:08.280 --> 1:26:12.960
<v Speaker 1>crime that's persistent. And I think if you are elected

1:26:13.000 --> 1:26:16.160
<v Speaker 1>to council, you can be the point person on that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, hopefully you get some more down there that

1:26:19.520 --> 1:26:22.960
<v Speaker 1>will be with you and other like minded people. But

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we'll have to see on that. I think Christopher,

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<v Speaker 1>being honest, of all the non incumbents running, based on

1:26:31.000 --> 1:26:34.640
<v Speaker 1>your background and based on your grasp of the crime issue,

1:26:34.880 --> 1:26:37.799
<v Speaker 1>you have the best shot of getting back on counsel.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just my opinion, it's also the opinion of many others.

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<v Speaker 6>Well. I appreciate that, Mike Allen, and I'll tell everybody listening. Look,

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<v Speaker 6>we have a great opportunity here and I do politics

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<v Speaker 6>and the love for our city. When I say our city,

1:26:53.439 --> 1:26:57.080
<v Speaker 6>I'm talking Mike Allen, all your listening audience, and anybody

1:26:57.160 --> 1:26:59.439
<v Speaker 6>that lives in our core, in our region. And the

1:26:59.479 --> 1:27:03.559
<v Speaker 6>reason I say, look, politics can be selfish, but I'm

1:27:03.600 --> 1:27:06.920
<v Speaker 6>just not a selfish politician. That's why I talk about

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<v Speaker 6>a Liz Keating who's running for city council. Hey, I

1:27:10.720 --> 1:27:13.160
<v Speaker 6>don't want to just get elected. I want I want

1:27:13.200 --> 1:27:15.720
<v Speaker 6>a group of people to get elected. So somebody like

1:27:15.800 --> 1:27:19.080
<v Speaker 6>Liz Keating, great choice. I think a good is a

1:27:19.120 --> 1:27:23.960
<v Speaker 6>great choice. Great lawyer, great depth, smart, cares about the city,

1:27:24.120 --> 1:27:28.120
<v Speaker 6>lives in Clifton. Another great person. I really like a

1:27:28.240 --> 1:27:34.559
<v Speaker 6>Linda Matthews. Nice person, you know, solid, understands not just

1:27:34.640 --> 1:27:37.240
<v Speaker 6>politics but the running of the city. What about a

1:27:37.360 --> 1:27:41.679
<v Speaker 6>Dondrey House, blue dog Democrat from the west side of town,

1:27:42.240 --> 1:27:45.360
<v Speaker 6>you know, very interested in housing and what's happening in

1:27:45.400 --> 1:27:49.240
<v Speaker 6>our in our housing stock, across our fifty two neighborhoods.

1:27:50.080 --> 1:27:52.920
<v Speaker 6>Great person to have on council, and the blue dog

1:27:53.000 --> 1:27:56.200
<v Speaker 6>Democrats are dying in the party. And that's why he's

1:27:56.240 --> 1:27:59.840
<v Speaker 6>a good candidate to get elected, because he's that He's

1:28:00.640 --> 1:28:04.720
<v Speaker 6>Tom Lucan, that Charlie Lucan, that John Cranley out there

1:28:04.760 --> 1:28:07.800
<v Speaker 6>that's so important to the political process. So I talk

1:28:07.840 --> 1:28:11.160
<v Speaker 6>about a Dondriouse. What about a Lakita Cole. You know,

1:28:11.280 --> 1:28:15.040
<v Speaker 6>she's a Democrat there, she's usually endorsed by the Democratic Party,

1:28:15.040 --> 1:28:18.400
<v Speaker 6>but they've abandoned her. I would say that a Latria

1:28:18.479 --> 1:28:21.960
<v Speaker 6>Cole could say the Democratic Party left her. She didn't

1:28:22.000 --> 1:28:26.040
<v Speaker 6>leave the Democratic Party, but she's out there working incredibly hard.

1:28:26.360 --> 1:28:29.240
<v Speaker 6>Somebody to really look at who could easily take one

1:28:29.280 --> 1:28:32.240
<v Speaker 6>of these seats, because you got four or five members

1:28:32.240 --> 1:28:34.240
<v Speaker 6>of council that people don't even know who they are.

1:28:34.439 --> 1:28:36.880
<v Speaker 6>They're not out here communicating, they're not out here knocking

1:28:36.920 --> 1:28:40.080
<v Speaker 6>on doors. And even right now is his video showing

1:28:40.120 --> 1:28:43.960
<v Speaker 6>the corruption at the highest levels. Please listen to what

1:28:44.000 --> 1:28:47.559
<v Speaker 6>I'm saying. I served on council. There is no way

1:28:47.680 --> 1:28:50.160
<v Speaker 6>that a video like that exists, and I don't know

1:28:50.240 --> 1:28:53.080
<v Speaker 6>about it. I'm gonna say that again. There is no

1:28:53.320 --> 1:28:56.840
<v Speaker 6>way a video exists that three c DC has that

1:28:57.000 --> 1:29:00.760
<v Speaker 6>was just released and I don't know about it. And

1:29:00.800 --> 1:29:05.000
<v Speaker 6>so there was a motivation here, I think, to divide

1:29:05.080 --> 1:29:09.040
<v Speaker 6>the electric racially different hard for people to hear. They

1:29:09.240 --> 1:29:13.200
<v Speaker 6>wanted African Americans to go in and be emotionally charged

1:29:13.520 --> 1:29:16.519
<v Speaker 6>and believe in some way they have been slighted. And

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<v Speaker 6>so the way Democrats tend to do that is they

1:29:19.280 --> 1:29:23.280
<v Speaker 6>divide us by race. And we've got to stop this madness.

1:29:23.760 --> 1:29:23.960
<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>That's why I run as an independent because so often

1:29:27.000 --> 1:29:29.840
<v Speaker 6>the answers for most people are in the middle. They're

1:29:29.880 --> 1:29:32.880
<v Speaker 6>not on either side. And this is that sick part

1:29:32.920 --> 1:29:35.960
<v Speaker 6>where we have nine members of council who are democrats,

1:29:36.000 --> 1:29:40.400
<v Speaker 6>a democratic mayor, a democratic administration, and all of them

1:29:40.439 --> 1:29:43.720
<v Speaker 6>were hiding the football like Charlie Brown. I'll say this

1:29:43.760 --> 1:29:45.760
<v Speaker 6>to you so clearly. I went to the School for

1:29:45.880 --> 1:29:49.680
<v Speaker 6>Creative and Performing Arts. This mayor and this council collectively,

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<v Speaker 6>not individually, but collectively collectively, remind me of the Scarecrow,

1:29:54.720 --> 1:29:58.400
<v Speaker 6>no Brain. They remind me of the ten Man, no Heart,

1:29:58.840 --> 1:30:01.960
<v Speaker 6>They remind me of the of the Lion, no courage.

1:30:02.200 --> 1:30:05.120
<v Speaker 6>They're the greatest trilogy of all. How do you have

1:30:05.320 --> 1:30:10.400
<v Speaker 6>somebody like Sarah Hearinger and her husband Patrick murdered in

1:30:10.520 --> 1:30:13.720
<v Speaker 6>OTR and this mayor doesn't reach out. How do you

1:30:13.800 --> 1:30:17.120
<v Speaker 6>have a Ronda Win where you have Cassandra Winn shot

1:30:17.160 --> 1:30:20.520
<v Speaker 6>in the back walking down the street in downtown Cincinnati

1:30:20.560 --> 1:30:23.479
<v Speaker 6>at nine or so in the evening. Not only has

1:30:23.479 --> 1:30:25.840
<v Speaker 6>the mayor not reached out, but we haven't even found

1:30:25.840 --> 1:30:30.560
<v Speaker 6>out who murdered her five children. Roder Winn is suffering

1:30:30.680 --> 1:30:33.400
<v Speaker 6>out here like crazy. My point to you is, we

1:30:33.439 --> 1:30:36.680
<v Speaker 6>have these high profile murders around us, and we have

1:30:36.760 --> 1:30:39.080
<v Speaker 6>a mayor that acts as if he doesn't have a heart.

1:30:39.439 --> 1:30:42.759
<v Speaker 6>We have a council collectively that doesn't have the courage

1:30:42.760 --> 1:30:45.599
<v Speaker 6>to stand up to that bully and tell him, listen,

1:30:45.840 --> 1:30:48.240
<v Speaker 6>you're not going to push us around. We're not going

1:30:48.320 --> 1:30:50.760
<v Speaker 6>to engage in corruption. And we have the right to

1:30:50.800 --> 1:30:54.479
<v Speaker 6>have independent opinions away from what the mayor has both

1:30:54.600 --> 1:30:57.720
<v Speaker 6>for Corey Bowman, absolutely, people have asked me, why are

1:30:57.760 --> 1:31:00.559
<v Speaker 6>you supporting Corey Bowman. We've got to hit a different direction,

1:31:01.080 --> 1:31:03.800
<v Speaker 6>you know, as an independent, I believe that we I

1:31:03.800 --> 1:31:06.000
<v Speaker 6>don't look at party Mike Allen, I don't look at

1:31:06.000 --> 1:31:09.639
<v Speaker 6>any of this stuff. I'm into what is the best

1:31:10.360 --> 1:31:11.720
<v Speaker 6>for the city of Cincinnati.

1:31:11.880 --> 1:31:12.280
<v Speaker 7>That's it.

1:31:12.760 --> 1:31:15.320
<v Speaker 6>I don't care about anything else. One day I might

1:31:15.439 --> 1:31:18.840
<v Speaker 6>run for mayor. Maybe I don't ever run for mayor, right,

1:31:18.920 --> 1:31:22.400
<v Speaker 6>But the point is I only care about what is

1:31:22.520 --> 1:31:25.840
<v Speaker 6>right for the fifty two neighborhoods in Cincinnati, in our

1:31:25.880 --> 1:31:31.599
<v Speaker 6>core because indian yill places like Mason Right, places where

1:31:31.640 --> 1:31:35.200
<v Speaker 6>we would think about Anderson, those is naming some of

1:31:35.240 --> 1:31:40.040
<v Speaker 6>our surrounding areas. Their community will not drive into our

1:31:40.120 --> 1:31:43.120
<v Speaker 6>core if they don't feel safe and they don't think

1:31:43.120 --> 1:31:46.160
<v Speaker 6>the leadership has it on the ball. That's why I'm

1:31:46.160 --> 1:31:48.920
<v Speaker 6>asking you to vote for Smitherman for City Council. And

1:31:48.960 --> 1:31:51.599
<v Speaker 6>those are my closing arguments to the jury.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Christopher, we've got about three and a half

1:31:55.120 --> 1:31:58.080
<v Speaker 1>minutes here. I wanted you to talk a minute. I

1:31:58.120 --> 1:32:01.120
<v Speaker 1>have heard that the number that they're the turnout is

1:32:01.200 --> 1:32:05.840
<v Speaker 1>like ten to fifteen percent, which is incredible, incredibly bad.

1:32:06.520 --> 1:32:08.760
<v Speaker 1>If you could address that, and if you have any

1:32:08.760 --> 1:32:12.200
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on how people should vote and what they can

1:32:12.240 --> 1:32:15.040
<v Speaker 1>do to help you in the closing days of the campaign.

1:32:15.280 --> 1:32:16.640
<v Speaker 2>And you got four weeks.

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<v Speaker 6>We still need yard sign locations, We still need contributions

1:32:21.800 --> 1:32:25.840
<v Speaker 6>to our campaign Smitherman for Cincinnati. They can drop them

1:32:25.880 --> 1:32:29.840
<v Speaker 6>off at seventeen oh three Deal Road in bond Hill,

1:32:29.880 --> 1:32:32.479
<v Speaker 6>which is where my financial planning practice is located. There's

1:32:32.479 --> 1:32:34.960
<v Speaker 6>a twenty four hour box there that they can put

1:32:34.960 --> 1:32:38.280
<v Speaker 6>a check in there. Our number there at seventy five one, three,

1:32:38.439 --> 1:32:42.559
<v Speaker 6>eight eight eight. The apathy that is happening in our city,

1:32:42.680 --> 1:32:45.880
<v Speaker 6>meaning people feel like they are defeated, and we've got

1:32:45.880 --> 1:32:49.160
<v Speaker 6>to turn that around. And so every vote counts. Because

1:32:49.160 --> 1:32:52.120
<v Speaker 6>the voter turnout is so low fifteen to twenty percent,

1:32:52.479 --> 1:32:56.880
<v Speaker 6>that means we knock on ten doors today of registered voters,

1:32:56.920 --> 1:33:00.120
<v Speaker 6>and only two of those houses are coming out. The

1:33:00.160 --> 1:33:02.960
<v Speaker 6>other eight are staying home, and so We're trying to

1:33:03.000 --> 1:33:06.120
<v Speaker 6>turn that around because there are a lot of traditional voters,

1:33:06.160 --> 1:33:08.840
<v Speaker 6>Mike Allen, and they don't vote during the thirty days.

1:33:09.080 --> 1:33:12.760
<v Speaker 6>They've flagged outside their houses, their families have served in

1:33:12.800 --> 1:33:15.400
<v Speaker 6>the military or in the police department or some way,

1:33:15.479 --> 1:33:19.559
<v Speaker 6>and they feel like, I'm only gonna vote on election day. Well,

1:33:19.600 --> 1:33:21.519
<v Speaker 6>if that's where you're gonna vote, we need you to

1:33:21.560 --> 1:33:26.080
<v Speaker 6>show up in heavy numbers on Tuesday between six thirty

1:33:26.160 --> 1:33:29.240
<v Speaker 6>and seven point thirty at your local polling location, and

1:33:29.320 --> 1:33:31.840
<v Speaker 6>let's see how this thing turns out. Never vote for

1:33:32.560 --> 1:33:35.400
<v Speaker 6>nine people for city council. It's up to nine. I've

1:33:35.400 --> 1:33:37.799
<v Speaker 6>given you a lot of examples today of good people

1:33:37.800 --> 1:33:40.240
<v Speaker 6>that are running with good art. I think four or

1:33:40.240 --> 1:33:42.600
<v Speaker 6>five of those. Let me also say Gary Favors is

1:33:42.600 --> 1:33:45.280
<v Speaker 6>out there running, good guy. But there are a lot

1:33:45.280 --> 1:33:47.439
<v Speaker 6>of good people out there running. Pick four or five

1:33:47.520 --> 1:33:51.160
<v Speaker 6>of them and stop there. You're looking just for a majority.

1:33:51.400 --> 1:33:53.760
<v Speaker 6>Never vote for nine people for city council. And I

1:33:53.840 --> 1:33:57.040
<v Speaker 6>promise you, if people listen to that one tool, we

1:33:57.120 --> 1:34:01.040
<v Speaker 6>will absolutely flip city council and and we will absolutely

1:34:01.120 --> 1:34:02.920
<v Speaker 6>impact what's happening in the Mayor's office.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, I'll tell you what wise advice. Christopher.

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<v Speaker 1>We're out of time here, but thank you for being

1:34:08.479 --> 1:34:12.800
<v Speaker 1>so available to us, and good luck on Tuesday. I

1:34:12.840 --> 1:34:15.240
<v Speaker 1>think you've put yourself in a position to get back

1:34:15.280 --> 1:34:15.920
<v Speaker 1>on that thing.

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<v Speaker 6>Mike. Here's my last promise. When I'm elected on Tuesday night,

1:34:21.680 --> 1:34:25.040
<v Speaker 6>you will have the exact same access to me that

1:34:25.120 --> 1:34:27.920
<v Speaker 6>you have now in good times and in battle right,

1:34:28.080 --> 1:34:30.920
<v Speaker 6>and so I'll make myself available for you to question me,

1:34:31.400 --> 1:34:34.839
<v Speaker 6>question my votes, question my decisions, and question what's happening.

1:34:35.080 --> 1:34:37.599
<v Speaker 6>Too many of these elected officials are hiding. And I

1:34:37.680 --> 1:34:41.320
<v Speaker 6>also bought those commercials during your show to extending you

1:34:41.400 --> 1:34:44.760
<v Speaker 6>the respect that I know that you deserve. And I'm

1:34:44.760 --> 1:34:46.599
<v Speaker 6>so thankful the access you've given me.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Christopher, really appeace you might Okay, I'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you probably before Tuesday.

1:34:51.560 --> 1:34:54.320
<v Speaker 2>But if I own good luck, Thank you, Rob.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, all right, Christopher Smithman, I'll tell you what man,

1:34:58.640 --> 1:35:01.880
<v Speaker 1>that young man gets back on council, whether he's got

1:35:01.960 --> 1:35:05.160
<v Speaker 1>Republicans to work with, Charter rights, he's going to make

1:35:05.160 --> 1:35:10.519
<v Speaker 1>an impact in everything, but especially especially in the crime issue,

1:35:10.520 --> 1:35:15.800
<v Speaker 1>which is obviously the biggest issue facing us. And you know,

1:35:15.920 --> 1:35:20.240
<v Speaker 1>fifty percent of the vote I've never understood that. And

1:35:20.280 --> 1:35:22.479
<v Speaker 1>as Christopher said, you don't have to vote for nine.

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<v Speaker 1>We shall see what happens. Hey, listen, I'm out of time.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to thank my great producer, Lian Liam Tomlinson,

1:35:30.040 --> 1:35:31.160
<v Speaker 1>who keeps me out of trouble,