1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: We're actually going to head out to our consperate health 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: hotline right now and bring on Ian Rappaport, our NFL 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: network insider, and that is powered by Chevron. Chevron the 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: human energy company, committed to our local communities and safely 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: delivering affordable, reliable, ever cleaner energy. 6 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Ian, Thank you so much for the time. 7 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: Man. 8 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 3: How are you no problem? How are you guys? 9 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 4: We're very good. 10 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: Another busy day in the NFL. And yeah, we woke 11 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: up early to the Brian da Ball news. How surprised 12 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: were you to find out that the Giants are moving on? 13 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 3: You know, I would say not surprised. I mean it's 14 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 3: you know, look, Brian Davio is a former Coach of 15 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 3: the Year and I think has done some really good 16 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 3: jobs offensively, a lot that goes into being a head coach. 17 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 3: And you know they have you know, they have blown. 18 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 5: Two double or four double digit leads on the road 19 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 5: and games they really should have won, games they've dominated, 20 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 5: and at some point, the results are what the results are. 21 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 3: And you know, Davo is a good man. I think 22 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 3: he's there's a good head coach in there somewhere. And 23 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,199 Speaker 3: the job he did with Jackson Dart was really good. 24 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 3: I mean, Jackson Dart has been ready to play earlier 25 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 3: than anyone anticipated. But I think it just got to 26 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 3: be too much. And once you start the sort of 27 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 3: death march of like are you gonna fire him this week? 28 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 6: No? 29 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 3: Are you gonna fire him next week? No, it's like 30 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 3: when you know, you know, and I felt like it 31 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 3: was time for the Giants. 32 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 4: Well, speaking of time. 33 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 7: It seems as though we could see Joe Burrow back. 34 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 7: I think the twenty day window opens up for him. 35 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 7: If he does come back, how does that change things 36 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 7: for the Cincinnati being. 37 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 4: Was moving forward? 38 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, significant day today, really significant day. 39 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 3: He practiced and you know he had toe surgery two 40 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 3: months ago, less than two months ago. It's a three 41 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 3: month recovery. So he seems to be, you know, ahead 42 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 3: of schedule, which is I think a really good thing. 43 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 3: You know, he has been pushing. I think he'd like 44 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 3: to play. The team is three and six. Now would 45 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 3: they put him out there when there's no hope of anything. 46 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 3: I don't know that they would. I'm not one hundred 47 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 3: percent sure that they would. I know he is going 48 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 3: to want to play, and I think if if there's 49 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 3: a chance, Like if they are still live, then I 50 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 3: think there's a chance we see Joe Burrow. There're three 51 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 3: and six and every game has been winnable, right yeah, 52 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 3: so you know, maybe they get two of the next three, 53 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 3: or maybe they get two in a row, or maybe 54 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: they go one and one and maybe we see him 55 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 3: for Thanksgiving. Like I think it's fast, but I don't 56 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 3: think it would be impossible. Which is, you know, has 57 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 3: the potential to be the best story we've seen in 58 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 3: a while, which is Joe Burrow coming to the rescue 59 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 3: of the Cincinnati Bengals team. 60 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: And it's remarkably up in the Air Division, especially after 61 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: the Steelers lost last night. So wanted to get your 62 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: thought speed of the sea. We got three teams at 63 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: the at eight and two at the top of this 64 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: thing right now, with both the Colts and the Patriots 65 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: winning yesterday, of course, the Broncos winning on Thursday. Give 66 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: me your sort of your assessment of those three eight 67 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: and two. 68 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: Teams right now? 69 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 3: You know, it was interesting. I mean, the Colts looked 70 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 3: like a juggernaut until this week. I think they look good, 71 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 3: but I think it's fair to say they still have 72 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 3: some things to prove. The Broncos, you know, have played 73 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: great in close games. I think they're a very very 74 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 3: well coached team, but you know, offensively, there's definitely some 75 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 3: things that are still working through. I think bon Nicks 76 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: has been, you know, probably a little more inconsistent than 77 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 3: anyone hoped. And the Patriots look great. So, you know, 78 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: the Patriots a little bit, it feels like it's maybe 79 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 3: a year earlier than anticipated for them. To me, they 80 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 3: look like the team that is sort of more ready. 81 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 3: But I don't know, because you know, the Broncos are 82 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: a tough, well coached team with a young quarterback to 83 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 3: make some mistakes, but they've won all the games that 84 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 3: you need to win. So you know, it's like, I 85 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 3: don't know that there's a dominant team out there, but 86 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 3: you have some teams that are flawed but doing everything 87 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 3: they need to do to win, which you know, you 88 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 3: also could argue is good enough. 89 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 7: And we saw a very impressive outing once again from 90 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 7: Johndan Taylor from the Cult. I mean, could his performance 91 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 7: add as a running back as the season go on 92 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 7: force individuals around the league and talent valuate just to 93 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 7: look at running backs a lot different than they looked 94 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 7: at him before. 95 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 3: You know, I don't think so. I mean, look, I 96 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 3: don't think he's going to be the MVP. But one 97 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 3: thing I was when he got that contract extension a 98 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 3: couple of years ago, it was the first of the 99 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 3: really good running backs to get a real extension. I 100 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 3: think it was I remember right at least twelve and 101 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 3: a half million dollars and that was a lot. And 102 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 3: what he's done for this as running backs have sort 103 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 3: of rebounded, has they've proven that the worth of money 104 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 3: he might be in position to cash. And again, you know, 105 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 3: he's not going to win the MVP because that's really 106 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 3: a quarterback award, unfortunately, but his value to the team 107 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 3: to people who know is immense. I think it's been 108 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 3: awesome to watch. He's one of the huge reasons where 109 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 3: they are one of these stories of the NFL this 110 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 3: year last one I. 111 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: Have for Ian always appreciate the time. So some I 112 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: guess some positive news for Jayde and Daniels last week. 113 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: It sounds like there's some hope that he could be back. 114 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: What are some factors Do you think that the team 115 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: performance will be a factor at all in the decision 116 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: to let Jayden Daniels come back, and honestly, is it 117 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: possible he's available for the Broncos game here in a 118 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: few weeks. 119 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 6: The Broncos play that the first game after the bye. Yes, okay, 120 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 6: so I think it's possible. I would say probably long shot, 121 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 6: but possible. 122 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 3: And here's what's interesting, And I would say the same thing. 123 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 8: For Joe Burrow. 124 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 3: You know we can talk about you know, hey, the 125 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 3: team wants to protect themselves if he's healthy, but there's 126 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 3: nothing to play for it, they may not play. Like 127 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 3: he's gonna want to play. If he's healthy enough and 128 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,679 Speaker 3: there's a chance and the team is still alive, he's 129 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 3: going to want to play. And how do you keep 130 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 3: your franchise quarterback off the field if he's cleared and 131 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 3: wants to play. And that's a challenge because you know, 132 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 3: you could talk about you don't want to make sure 133 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 3: he's ready for next season, like he's going to be 134 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 3: the leader of that locker room and he's going to 135 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 3: want to show them like if I can get out there, 136 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 3: I'm going to get out there. So there's a lot 137 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 3: of factors to way. But to answer your question, I 138 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 3: think for the Broncos game, it is at least possible, 139 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 3: and we'll be a huge story moving forward. 140 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 7: And Washington, obviously everyone is still up in arms about 141 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 7: this Jay and Danie's injury. And when you look at 142 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 7: dan Quinn's he's taking a lot of fire and brimstone. 143 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 7: But recently he just took over as a defensive coordinator. 144 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 4: What does that mean for. 145 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 7: This particular team, but more importantly, what does it mean 146 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 7: for dan Quinn moving forward? Knowing as though now he 147 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 7: has assumed two roads as head coach and defensive coordinator, 148 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 7: it gets. 149 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 3: More challenging because he is you know, at first I 150 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 3: thought he was going to be the defensive play caller, 151 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 3: but he's not. I mean he is, but he's not. 152 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 3: He's going to be the coordinator. He's going to run meetings, 153 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 3: he's going to you know, basically do the job that 154 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 3: he did in Dallas and also serve as the head coach. Now, 155 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 3: you know, that's a lot on his plate. But he's 156 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 3: a defensive guy and he should be able to fix this. 157 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 3: Like if he's the coach that they hired and they 158 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 3: thought they hired, should be able to fix this. And 159 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 3: he's taken on a lot. I think the stakes are high. 160 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 3: He has a new owner, they're building a stadium, they 161 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 3: have a franchise quarterback. They should be good, and so, 162 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 3: you know, I think for him, he's got to produce. 163 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 3: I think the fans are hungry for it. And the 164 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 3: stakes are you know, the stakes are pretty high. 165 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: They really are always great. 166 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 3: Ian. 167 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: We'll check in with you next week, man. 168 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: Thank you, all right, look forward to it. Take care, 169 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: all right, Thank you. Ian Rappaport, our NFL Network insider. 170 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: The Washington Commanders incidentally have lost four straight games by 171 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: twenty two or more points in every single game. They're 172 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: actually on a five game losing streak. But they only 173 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: lost by one to Chicago. That was kind of a 174 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: weird late comeback thing. But then yeah, the last four 175 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: forty four to twenty two, Dallas, twenty eight to seven, 176 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: Kansas City, thirty eight to fourteen versus Seattle, and forty 177 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: four to twenty two yesterday versus Detroit. And then they 178 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: play Miami out in where it's an international game. 179 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 2: I got to look and see where that is. Oh, Madrid. 180 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,599 Speaker 1: They got the Madrid game coming up on Sunday, and 181 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: then they got to buy before hosting the Broncos in 182 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: prime time. 183 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 4: That's very interesting. 184 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 7: Because competition in the NFL can be stiff, as we know, 185 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 7: and cliche saying needing to. 186 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 4: Give us something I know, blah blah blah blah blah. 187 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 7: But as a fan, but also as a coach, you 188 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 7: want to make sure that your guys. You want to 189 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 7: see that your guys are going out there competing. They 190 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 7: understand the signment and what we're seeing from this Washington 191 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 7: Commander's team. It just looks a little disjointed, right, It's 192 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 7: no type of cohesion. 193 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 4: So hopefully they get this thing going. 194 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: We're going to head out to the Kiae Comma Spirit 195 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: Health Hotline as we typically do here on Mondays around 196 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: this time and check in with doctor Dave Schneider, brought 197 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: to you by Ortho Colorado Hospital, part of Common Spirit Health. 198 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: Go to Orthoclorado dot org Doctor Schneider. Good to catch 199 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: up with you. 200 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 2: How are you. 201 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 8: I'm doing great, Happy victory Monday to you. 202 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: Indeed, great to chat with you. And yeah, we're running 203 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: off seven in a row. It's pretty good times. So 204 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: on the Broncos here, Patser Tan came on with us 205 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: on Friday, said he's forty six percent. Now I know 206 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: that a couple of weeks ago you were feeling pretty 207 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: like this is a bad situation. I'm thinking we're leaning surgery. 208 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: We now know after the fact they are putting him 209 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: on IR that doesn't look like they're going to need surgery. 210 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: So what does forty six percent mean to you as 211 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: far as his timeline. 212 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 8: Well, of course I'm curious how it comes up with 213 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 8: that number, me too. You know, perhaps it means that 214 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 8: an MRI or even now repeated MRIs show that it's 215 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 8: just partial tendon injury to his spector als, which I 216 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 8: think in this case is a guarantee that he has 217 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 8: a partial peck injury and that it hasn't retracted, and 218 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 8: that maybe, particularly in his case a superlative athlete. One 219 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 8: of the things about a superlative athlete is they have 220 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 8: a superlative ability to heal an injury that might hamper 221 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 8: someone else. So maybe it's possibly it's just going to 222 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 8: miss a couple weeks and he'll be back. 223 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 7: Doc, what do you make of this situation with Alex 224 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 7: Singleton and. 225 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 4: What he's going through? 226 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 7: And we know the kind of two aspect of it, 227 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 7: but let's talk about the fish aspect of it and 228 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 7: how that plays a role on how quickly he gets 229 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 7: back on the field. 230 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,719 Speaker 8: What a mentally strong human being that you can go 231 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 8: into a game knowing that you have testicular cancer if 232 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 8: you haven't told anyone, did you go and play sixty 233 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 8: snaps and then the very next morning go have surgery 234 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 8: and win. In his case, you know what we call 235 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 8: an orchiectomy, that's when you have one of your testicles removed. 236 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 8: I just think that is such an amazing move by 237 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 8: someone who can do that. And you know now they 238 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 8: do that incision minimally and basically it's more up and 239 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 8: you're groined. Remove the testicle and it wouldn't be surprised 240 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 8: if he comes back and plays even in just a 241 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 8: couple of weeks. The nice thing about catching it early, 242 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 8: which is what I hope every listener, every guy hearing this. 243 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 8: It's it's important. Just like women need to do a 244 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 8: monthly breast exam, guys need to do a testical exam. 245 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 8: Feel your balls. If there's something wrong, there's like there's 246 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 8: a lump or something that's really really tender, you got 247 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 8: to have it checked. It's just a simple ultrasound exam 248 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 8: and it can be life saving because his chance of 249 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 8: recovering well with isolated testicular cancer and almost any type 250 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 8: you have his ninety nine percent he'll be fine. But 251 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 8: to be able to play with that on your mind, 252 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 8: I'm just so blown away. I'm really really impressed. 253 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 4: Dog. 254 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 7: Just a quick follow up, how does this or I 255 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 7: or does it in fact testosterone production after maybe removal 256 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 7: of I guess whatever they need to do to kind 257 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 7: of remove the cancer. 258 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 8: Great question, Nick, There would be no effect. And we 259 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 8: see this with different organs when when you got two 260 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 8: of something, if you lose a kidney, the other kidney 261 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 8: goes into hyperdrive. So not only do you have normal 262 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 8: testicular function for that their side, normal ability to have 263 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 8: a baby, normal testosterone production, it'll it'll be like it 264 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 8: never have another than a small little incision. 265 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: Last one I have for you, Doc, I always appreciate the time. 266 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: I just wanted to check in. I don't know if 267 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: you saw some of the stuff with JK. Dobbins, he 268 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: was obviously grousing about the hip drop tackle. When you 269 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: saw the injury maybe being described as maybe a mid 270 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: foot spring, can you tell us a little bit more 271 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: about that, a. 272 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 8: Little concerning just the way that his foot was kind 273 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 8: of wrenched that hip drop tackle. I don't know how 274 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 8: you enforce it. You know that backer was riding, you know, 275 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 8: tackled and was just not going to let go. Looks 276 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 8: like a hip drop tackle, but you know, the the 277 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 8: way that Foots took that abuse. I'm glad he's you know, 278 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 8: he's going to get a second opinion, which you win 279 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 8: in the NFL. That means there's one or two guys 280 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 8: in the NFL that are only foot doctors. Our docs 281 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 8: here in Denver are great, but that MRI is going 282 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 8: to be seen by all the best foot and ankle guys. 283 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 8: Wouldn't be surprised if he misses a few games. He'll 284 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 8: have a special shoe insert that he'll play in the 285 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 8: rest of the season. You hope it doesn't turn into 286 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 8: a Kyler Murray thing, where now Murray looks to be 287 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 8: perhaps done for the season, but hopefully JK comes back 288 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,479 Speaker 8: because he's such an important tool for the Broncos. 289 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: Well, no doubt about that. Now he said he was fine, 290 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: he finished the game. 291 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 2: Can you play on that. 292 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, if it's a mild sprain and you're all jacked 293 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 8: up and you certainly got the juice. If it's a 294 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 8: mild mid foot sprain that guys can play. They might 295 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 8: have even given him in the middle of the game. 296 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 8: I didn't witness this. You can put a little shoe 297 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 8: insert that's a really rigid makes your shoe feel like 298 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 8: you're walking around and you know, like a Frankenstein boot 299 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 8: kind of thing. But you can actually play in that. 300 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 8: But we'll see, and of course they'll get an MRI 301 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 8: and repeat MRIs just to make sure the midfoot bones 302 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 8: aren't coming apart on Dobbin's. 303 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 2: Appreciate you as always, Doc. We'll check in me the 304 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: next week. 305 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: All right, thanks guys, Thank you, Doctor David Scheider from Ortheo, Colorado. 306 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 2: We'll be right back on k away. 307 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 3: The Broncos are a tough, well coached team with a 308 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 3: young quarterback who make some mistakes, but they've won all 309 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 3: the games that you need to win. So it's like, 310 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 3: I don't know that there's a dominant team out there, 311 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 3: but you have some teams that are flawed but doing 312 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 3: everything they need to do to win, which you know 313 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 3: you also could argue is good enough. 314 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: To Ian's points, Okay, the vibes are not great, I 315 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: think nationally speaking on the Broncos right now, you shouldn't 316 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: any sports talk show on Friday. Yeah, I mean the 317 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: vibes separate from the defense because everybody tends to be like, Okay, 318 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: well it's a great defense, but right, that's it's always 319 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: the Hey, the defense the elite, So. 320 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 4: You hate, you hate to use that when you anything 321 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 4: that's right. 322 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 2: Nobody wants to say it. 323 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 7: But my kids are good at this, but nobody wants 324 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 7: Nobody wants that you're eight and two busy. 325 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: The defense is great, butts, you know, And so. 326 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: I I understand how for some Broncos fans out there 327 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: it's a little confusing. 328 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: It's a confusing time. 329 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: When you're thinking about your team because you know the 330 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: defense is what they are, and you do feel, even 331 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: though they're leading the league and penalties, that they can 332 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: be better than that. Then as far as the coaching 333 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: staff has definitely raised the level of expectation of this team. 334 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: But then you get to the offense and there's been 335 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: some clutch moments. There's been some well, especially the last 336 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: two weeks have been really tough. They have been tough, 337 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: So I get that, but I also look at. 338 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: The other side of this thing. 339 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: There's nothing that the other two teams are doing right 340 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: now that that scares me particularly or makes me think 341 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: that the Broncos don't belong. There's nothing about any of 342 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: the AFC teams that are playing right now that makes 343 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: me think the Broncos couldn't beat any one of them, 344 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: because I heard a show this morning. 345 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 2: Talking about how they'd be. 346 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: The weakest either one seed or two seed or three like, 347 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: they'd be the weakest one and every team would want 348 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: to face them. 349 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 2: You want to face that defense at mile high? Are 350 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: you for real? 351 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 1: And I subscribe to what Dave said earlier that I'm 352 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: not done with the offense. I think that's there's definitely 353 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: another level. The trends are bad, but we've seen enough 354 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: flashes to believe that they could tie a few of 355 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: these things together down the stretch. 356 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 2: And you know why I believe all this, Nick Ferguson, 357 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 2: why is that? I'm so glad you asked. 358 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: This is a team that plays to their competition. They 359 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: actually have the strongest strength of schedule, remaining like it's 360 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: tough gautlet down the stretch here. You know, Washington probably 361 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: won't be all the great and you got the Raiders still. 362 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: Jacksonville seems like they're a bit of a hot mess. 363 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: There's some wins here, but you got the Chiefs twice, 364 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: you got the Chargers, still, you've got the Packers. There's 365 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: some good teams still left on the schedule. But I 366 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: think that's good for this team. I think they arrive 367 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 1: and they rise to that occasion. They tend to play down. 368 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: They tend to understand that they can play to a 369 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: certain level and get by. 370 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 2: That is maybe more. 371 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: Of an offensive indictment than the defense, because the defense 372 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: seems to show up every single week. But there's just 373 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: this reminder when they play that it isn't always their best, 374 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: but they can get away with it. 375 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 3: Now. 376 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: People will argue the other side of They say, that's 377 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: just negative and I definitely need your thoughts on all this. 378 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm monologue here. 379 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: People will argue the other side and say, well, that 380 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: is not necessarily the market of a very good team. 381 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: If if you feel like you can skate by, then 382 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: I say the other side of that, it is like, well, sure, 383 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: but they are, but they have And you know what, 384 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: you can't go back and change anything that has happened already. 385 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: All you can do is move forward with the information 386 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: that you currently have. And the information that you currently 387 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: have is you need to play to a higher level. 388 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: And you know that they know that against the Chiefs. 389 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: You need to play a higher level against teams like 390 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 1: the Packers and the Chargers coming forward, and I think 391 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 1: they're about to. I really legitimately think this team is 392 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: ready to do that and they're kind of excited about it. Well. 393 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 4: JK. 394 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 7: Dobbins actually talked about it after the game and he 395 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 7: was just basically saying the paraphrasing that he doesn't feel 396 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 7: that this is good enough for the fan base. And 397 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 7: this is a guy who played at Baltimore, played with 398 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 7: the Chargers, but he's in his first year with the Broncos. 399 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 2: He basically apologize and he gets it. 400 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I love him. 401 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 7: For that because he didn't make an excuse for And 402 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 7: the reason I say he didn't make an excuse for 403 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 7: because if you want to, I mean, you can say 404 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 7: some of the things that you said. 405 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 4: Just now. The Broncos are eight and two. They're finding 406 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 4: ways to win. 407 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 7: Their offense are putting drive together in the fourth quarter 408 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 7: when it counts. So there is this idea that, Okay, 409 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 7: well that is who this Broncos team is. You don't 410 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 7: you don't want that identity to do it a couple 411 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 7: of times to show that you are resilient. Yes, you 412 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 7: need you need that in any given sea because it 413 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 7: builds up confidence that if you find yourself down, you 414 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 7: can rally back. 415 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 4: But when you find. 416 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 7: Yourself down consistently, that's when it becomes a problem. And 417 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 7: I know that there's an ongoing issue right now in 418 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 7: this city where it's like, well, some people are seem 419 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 7: to be too high, others are seeming to be too low. 420 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 7: And I can understand both sides of that. And the 421 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 7: reason I say that because there's a certain level of 422 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 7: expectation that this organization hasn't had in years. Now. It's 423 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 7: starting to come back around based on what we're seeing 424 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 7: the team able to do in the fourth quarter with 425 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 7: one hell of a defense to kind of help pull 426 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 7: them across the finish line. But they've said before he 427 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 7: left about you know this team and believing in this team. 428 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 7: I believe in this team too, But at some point 429 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 7: they have to belie leaving themselves enough to actually showing it. 430 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 7: Because what I know from my time being around Bill Parcells, 431 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 7: because I know the ideas that your record indicates what 432 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 7: you are in this case, it does not because what 433 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 7: we are not seeing is a very cohesive offense to 434 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 7: compliment the defense. And that's where I believe nationally and 435 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 7: locally fans are having a little concern not too high. 436 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: Wow, I don't think you are well. I don't think 437 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: you did show up in full heat garb today. 438 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 4: That that what does that mean? That that means I'm hot? 439 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: Well, they're not playing tonight, so you just showed up 440 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: randomly and keep here. It'd be one thing like when 441 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: we had Shelby's studio. Nice brands with Shelby's studio, and 442 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: he is heading down to the arena to watch the 443 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: Nuggets and the Bucks play. 444 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 2: But that's not what's happening here. That he were here 445 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 2: a couple of nights ago. 446 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 7: But see, once again, that means I don't conform to 447 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 7: certain things that happen in the moment. 448 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 4: Right. 449 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 7: See, you got two choices. Either you follow the trend 450 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 7: or you set the trend. So I'm not a follower. 451 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 2: So you're setting a trend to everybody should wear Miami 452 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 2: heat gear. 453 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 4: No, I'm setting the trend. Is I'm gonna do whatever 454 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 4: the hell I want to do. 455 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 2: Yeah enough, Yes, I see where you're coming with all that, but. 456 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 4: You don't agree with it, Well, no, I. 457 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 7: Because right now you little hesitant because here's what I 458 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,959 Speaker 7: think you and I can agree on this, but we're 459 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 7: just probably seeing an entirely different because I'm sure that 460 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 7: you probably see it the same way that I'm seeing it. 461 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 7: Because what you're seeing from this offense, you're probably saying 462 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 7: to yourself, like, man, that needs to improve. 463 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 1: But there is something that they are doing at an 464 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: elite level the offense. 465 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 2: Do you know what that is? 466 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: There's one there's one specific stat they're the best in 467 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 1: the league, ad and you know what that is. 468 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:57,719 Speaker 2: They don't take sacks. 469 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: And before you snicker at that because you think like 470 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: of all the of all the stats out there to 471 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: be great at, you'd like to leave the league in 472 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: say red zone percentage, right, which, but that's not a 473 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: terrible percentage for the Broncos. 474 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 2: I think they're the reason why so top ten hold on. 475 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 4: Yes. 476 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: Now, Now, the thing about it is is they recognize 477 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: because you said that they weren't playing complimentary, they actually 478 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 1: are that that specific status is. 479 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 7: That right there, not giving up sacks, that's complimentary football 480 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 7: in your mind. 481 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: You obviously have to be better at three nouns because 482 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: that they have nine this last week, which is I'm 483 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: not I'm not gonna apologize for any of that. That's 484 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: that's bad, that's a that's a miss, that's a mess. 485 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: You've got to stay on the field better. But actually 486 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: one time of possession last week, which was remarkable to says, 487 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: I know, did I did you not hear my whole 488 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: thing at the beginning about playing down to opponents and 489 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: playing up to opponents? 490 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 2: I just got does say it? All these things? Are 491 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 2: you too high? 492 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: No listen, But I'm gonna compliment this to another stat 493 00:23:58,920 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: of why. 494 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 2: Defense gets a lot of sacks. 495 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: Right, this is the number one team in the league 496 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: as far as sack differential. Okay, between the Broncos defense 497 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: and the Broncos offense. They played complimentary to this very 498 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,959 Speaker 1: specific stat This would pointed out today on ESPN. 499 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 2: Check this out. 500 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 1: When the Broncos get at least one sack on defense, 501 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: the drive usually ends. They've allowed just three touchdowns across 502 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: thirty nine defensive possessions when they get at least one sack. Coincidentally, 503 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: for the offense, and Sean knows this with they don't 504 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: have a sack again, results of the last couple weeks 505 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: excluded they give themselves and I don't have the number 506 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: in front of me, but I know that it's a 507 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: significant number of a chance to continue a drive and 508 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: to get points, because that's what Sean pointed out multiple 509 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: times when leading up to the draft and drafting Bonis 510 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: says the guy doesn't take sas in fact, today he 511 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: was asked about Bonix's clock. 512 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 2: I thought this was a great answer that kind of 513 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 2: dovetails to it. 514 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 9: Well, I think it's a plus and a minus. I've 515 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 9: said that before. I think one of his great strengths 516 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 9: is not taking sacks, and so the clock in his 517 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 9: head relative to that sense of urgency. So I think 518 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 9: there is a fine line. Number one, the depth of route. 519 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 9: You know, is this a longer developing play, a seven 520 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 9: step drop, a five step drop, a three step drop, 521 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 9: and which should be the appropriate appropriate time. But I 522 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 9: think that's a much easier problem to correct than the latter, 523 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 9: which is taking the sacks, and historically speaking, it's proven 524 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 9: to be much more difficult to fix. 525 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 2: And I completely agree with him. 526 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: And so he's taking what was a fundamental ideology about 527 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: what he needs from the quarterback, which is, you cannot 528 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: because we know the advanced analytics now that a sack, 529 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: he's all the way up there now pretty close to turnovers. 530 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: It is really close. It's a drive killer. And so 531 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: the defense has already proven that three out of thirty 532 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: nine drives end when they get one sack on that drive. 533 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: And so coincidentally, it's the same way for offense. So 534 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: the Broncos offense gives themselves in these razors and margins 535 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: more opportunities to score when they don't take sacks, and 536 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: that's how they're more complementary to the defense. 537 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 2: Thank you, rest my case. 538 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 7: Not taking sacks. It's something that you don't want to do. 539 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 7: But even looking at the fact that the Broncos are 540 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 7: not taking sacks, and even look at the offensive line, 541 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 7: and I think, I don't have the numbers in front 542 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 7: of me, but I know Pro Football Focus, whether you 543 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 7: like it or not, has the Broncos offensive line rate 544 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 7: it really highs because they haven't really giving up a 545 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,959 Speaker 7: lot of sacks. And everyone goes to that particular stacks 546 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 7: to cite that, but then let's pill back that in layers. 547 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 4: No, they're not giving up sacks. 548 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 7: And the question is why because sometimes it's an incomplete pass. 549 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 4: Right or as Bo as being. 550 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 7: I guess people are saying negative things about him, or 551 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,239 Speaker 7: he's not standing in there. 552 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 4: He's bailing on plays. 553 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 3: Right. 554 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 7: That's another thing because your quarterback is mobile. If Bo 555 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 7: wasn't mobile and he was a Peyton manning a Drew 556 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 7: Brees or Tom Brady, guess what that sat total and 557 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 7: now goes up. But it's Bo's ability to escape and 558 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 7: break the pocket. Now Bo his it just seems to 559 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 7: me that he is caught between the rock and a 560 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 7: hard place, and you can see him mentally trying. 561 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 4: To process it. 562 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 7: Okay, do I do what my coach is telling me 563 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 7: I should do? Or do I do what the game 564 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 7: is dictating to me, because, believe it or not, on 565 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 7: every given play, the players called to say is a 566 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 7: passing play, you have to go through your progressions. But 567 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 7: Bo is saying, like, you know what I'm looking for 568 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 7: my read. Before Dave left, he talked about a play 569 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 7: where there was a dagger route. Dagger concept is number 570 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 7: two runs vertical. The number guy on the outside comes 571 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 7: in breaking in on him, breaking route, and everyone was saying, well, 572 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 7: bowshit have thrown it. I saw and I say, well, bullshit, 573 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 7: have thrown it, and then I went back and looked 574 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 7: at it bow. When both Bow was in the shotgun, 575 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 7: Bow hit his back foot and he was ready to 576 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 7: release it. You know what happened, Troy Franklin was running 577 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 7: a dig route. Instead of making that square ind he. 578 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 2: Round it, round it. 579 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 7: So when Bow was ready to let go, Troy hadn't 580 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 7: broke in yet. 581 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 4: By that time on the left side. 582 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 7: If you go back and watch it, the pressure from 583 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 7: the rap the raiders was now in his face. So 584 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 7: he took the checkdown. And I'm like, well, people getting 585 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,239 Speaker 7: mad at Hi because he didn't see the dig, Well, 586 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 7: let's talk about what really happened. And then if he 587 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 7: doesn't throw and he tries to throw the dig route 588 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 7: and then the ball is tip, it's a problem. Then 589 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 7: it's like, why didn't you take the checkdown? I'm like, 590 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 7: you can't have both. But if we're gonna talk about 591 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 7: this kid, it's play. 592 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 4: We got to throw everything on the table because it's 593 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 4: not all his faults, right. 594 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 7: The receivers who are running routes, they can freaking help. 595 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 4: Him out running And on that dig route, you gotta. 596 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 7: Come now, right because you can see I think it 597 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:18,479 Speaker 7: was Pat Bryant running the clear out. It wasn't sudden, 598 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 7: but it was almost like he was waiting and he's 599 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 7: kind of looked back to make sure that the dig 600 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 7: rout was thrown. Well, guess what, you're not breaking in 601 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 7: fast enough. That route's got to be there now, but 602 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 7: it's not. But everyone keeps blaming his kid, and I'm like, no, 603 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 7: I mean, there's some faults with bow Nicks. He's got 604 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 7: to clean up his footwork, right, But at some point 605 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 7: we have to be real about what it is that 606 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 7: we're seeing, and we have to force everyone, not just 607 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 7: bow to be accountable on the. 608 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: Ka kounispural text line five six six nine zero. What 609 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: good does it make not taking sacks? Well, giving up 610 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: yards and penalties. I mean, that's a fantastic point. You're 611 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: number one of the league in penalties. Offense is very 612 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: much struggling in that department. 613 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 4: That's another reason why you don't take sex because guess what, 614 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 4: it's a penalty. But it's true. 615 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: So I guess the point I'm making about sacks is 616 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: the broad Coast have been marching this razor thin margin 617 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: all year, right, and that's why you're in these fourth 618 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: quarter comebacks because you continue to walk those margins. And 619 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: it's the combination of a lot of things. It is 620 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: not just one thing. It's not just bon Nicks, it's 621 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: not just the offensive line, it's not just the tight 622 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: ends of the receivers. 623 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 2: It's a lot of it. Maybe JK. 624 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: Dobbins is like the one guy we could say, actually, 625 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: you're good, you're good. Yes, everybody else, everybody else has something, 626 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: But JK, get to what you're doing. The point of 627 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: it is is the penalties. You're absolutely right, you're putting 628 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: yourself in the disadvantage time and time again because you 629 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: can't play discipline of football. 630 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 2: And that does come back to coaching. 631 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: And I've seen several people texting in like, why are 632 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: you're not holding Seampayton accountable? No, I absolutely think he 633 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: has a hand in a lot of this. And we 634 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: talk about the complex nature of the offense. 635 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 9: Right. 636 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: For example, if Bonix is overthinking, that is on the 637 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: coaching to help him out. If all he can think 638 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: about is don't take a sack, don't take a sack, 639 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: like if that's all that's going through his head, don't 640 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: make a mistake, don't really interception, Well then you're not 641 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: playing free, you're not playing comfortable, and then we see 642 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: results like we did against the Raiders. Right, he looked 643 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: like he was second and third guessing every single decision. 644 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 4: He was playing tight. 645 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 7: Because there's three things that jump out to me watching 646 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 7: both play or watching any quarterback in this particular Situationither 647 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 7: there is a lack of confidence in the play calling 648 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 7: and win certain plays a call there's a lack and 649 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 7: the receivers being able to run the routes at their 650 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 7: proper depth and break when they need to break and 651 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 7: actually separate. And then also too confidence in the whole line. 652 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 7: This old line for the most part has been decent. 653 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 7: Like you said, they haven't been given up any sacks. 654 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 7: But think about the precious lot of pressures. Think about 655 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 7: the pressures and where that niaky pressure start and penetration 656 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 7: starts to come from. 657 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: And on top of that, if you think about it 658 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: very quickly and I'll let you get back to your point, 659 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: if you're a quarterback thinking about it, right, so you're like, hey, 660 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: the offensive line, I can't trust that the pressure won't 661 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: be coming right up my lap. Now I'm gonna have 662 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: to do something to avoid that sack and the expectation 663 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: for my coaching staff is I got I gotta be 664 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: the one that shoulders that. But when you can trust 665 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: your offensive line, when you can trust your receivers and 666 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: believe they're gonna be where they're supposed to be, as 667 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: in Troy Franklin doesn't round out that figure out that's 668 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: right where your center. 669 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 2: Isn't getting pushed into your lap. 670 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: When you can trust those things, you're gonna play a 671 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: lot more comfortable. So, like I said, and I'm glad 672 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: you brought it up, this is a multi layered kind 673 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: of thing. 674 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 2: And then you add the penalties in there and on 675 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 2: a whole other dimension. 676 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 7: And this is why you have when you do the 677 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 7: Broncos react after the Broncos win, You're like, why. 678 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 4: Are so many people so down? 679 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 7: Because of what we're talking about, And to ignore the 680 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 7: obvious is to be delusional. 681 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 4: It's like, this team has a lot of great players. 682 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 7: And I'm not saying that because I'm a former player, 683 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 7: but this team has a lot of great players on 684 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 7: offense that we have yet to see them have an 685 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 7: offensive explosion individually or collectively. I don't think there's any 686 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 7: person in this market, whether you cover this team or 687 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 7: your fan that can say that they've enjoyed that, that 688 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 7: they've seen that to a point where every weapon you 689 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 7: have on. 690 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 4: This offense is a threat. You just talked about JK. 691 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 7: Dobbins, the one guy who I mean just arrived to 692 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 7: the team, but he said, you know what, this is 693 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 7: not good enough for the fan base, and he's absolutely right. 694 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 7: So I understand when you're doing and you do a 695 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 7: great job on the fan react, I have to say that, 696 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 7: but when you have to sit there knowing as though 697 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 7: you love this team us as much as I do, 698 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 7: and you have to hear them make those types of comments, 699 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 7: and sometimes it could be upsetting because sometimes we don't 700 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,720 Speaker 7: want to see what is actually happening because it's like, wow, 701 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 7: I didn't think that was going to happen to this 702 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 7: team because there's no way. I mean, my prediction was 703 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 7: like forty five to ten, forty five to ten, Ryan, So. 704 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 4: My expectations was high because. 705 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 7: What the Raiders were bringing in here, but what I 706 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 7: felt that this offense and Booniques were capable of. And 707 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 7: when you don't see that right, it becomes disappointment. 708 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: That's what my point about the playing down to and 709 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: again tip of the cap because it's actually brought up 710 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 1: first by your guy prophet playing down to their opponent. 711 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 4: Can't do that right? 712 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: Well, No, you know, listen, this is the more of 713 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 1: a human nature thing. I know you're a big MJ fan. 714 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: This is more of a human nature conversation than it 715 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: is necessarily a You physically go into every game or 716 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: mentally go into every game saying we don't have to 717 00:34:59,000 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: bring our best. 718 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 2: I don't think that's the case. You're just like, hey, 719 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 2: this is a very down Raiders team. 720 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 9: Now. 721 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,760 Speaker 1: They say all the right things in the press conference, 722 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: but internally you're looking on paper and you're saying, God, 723 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: how do they even beat us? Well, brock Bowers goes off, 724 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 1: they can be just like that. We're gonna shut him down. 725 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: You know, we'll put everything we have into shutting rock 726 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 1: Powers down on offense. Yeah, Max Crosby is a problem, 727 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,879 Speaker 1: and you know we're gonna have to be aware of him. 728 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: There's nobody else that worries us when it comes to 729 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: this defense. And you may, again, you don't say those things, 730 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 1: and you're not gonna say them in a press conference setting. 731 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: You could internalize it, though, but then when it comes 732 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: to the Chiefs this Sunday. You can't say any of that. 733 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: You can about any phase because they are one of 734 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: the best coach teams. Andy Reid is twenty one and 735 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: four coming off of bye weeks, They got Patrick Mahomes. 736 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 1: I mean, they've got everything clicking. I mean, they play 737 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: terrible against the Bills, But you know what I'm saying, 738 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,240 Speaker 1: like they could be that team any given Sunday. 739 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 2: And you're welcoming in. 740 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: Here, and you know that winning on Christmas Day out 741 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: of Narrowhead is not that's not easy. That's not an 742 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: easy one and to let alone expected, so you got 743 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 1: to have this one and I think they'll show up 744 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: with that mindset. 745 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, but just saying. 746 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 7: That, Hey, listen, you know what, we're playing down to 747 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 7: an opponent. That may happen a couple of games in 748 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 7: the seventeen game season. 749 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 4: But I can tell you. 750 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 7: Because I've been around some of the better coaches in 751 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 7: this league, you can't have too many games like that 752 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 7: and that cannot be your philosophy or your rationale. 753 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,800 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, they played down to a team. 754 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 7: No, No, Mike stand a Head is not going to 755 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 7: tolerate that. I'm gonna tell you, and Bill Parcells is 756 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,959 Speaker 7: not gonna be tolerate. Tolerated because guess what, well, Bill 757 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 7: is a little different from Mike. They're gonna have the 758 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 7: same message, but it's gonna sound a lot different coming 759 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 7: from Bill Parcells.