WEBVTT - 2-2-26 Sloan with Seth Walsh

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<v Speaker 1>It's a Scott's flowing shell on seven hundred w old WD.

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<v Speaker 1>You just shooting a little straight with you this morth

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<v Speaker 1>So we have all the snow on the ground. We

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<v Speaker 1>got like twelve inches of snow, not much of it

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<v Speaker 1>if all has melted yet tonight. Since lash tomorrow, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get to one to two to three maybe

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<v Speaker 1>more depending where you are, depends. We shall see temperatures

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<v Speaker 1>remain cold, so more snow on top of the snow.

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<v Speaker 1>Snow's not going anywhere, and city Cruise does a great

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<v Speaker 1>job clearing snow on the streets. There's still snow on

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<v Speaker 1>the sidewalks that kids need to walk or wait for buses,

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<v Speaker 1>and so a new ordnance would have force property on

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<v Speaker 1>us to clear the snow. So what we're saying is

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<v Speaker 1>that your neighbor, your neighbor, Betty Lorrain or Margaret, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>name is, she's got to get eighty years old and

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<v Speaker 1>the city's going to force her out there at gunpoint

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<v Speaker 1>to go shovel over twelve inches of snow. Absolutely heartless, heartless,

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<v Speaker 1>it's unreal. Council Member Seth Walsh is proposing this, Seth,

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<v Speaker 1>are you going to tell me that you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>force somebody's gramma to go out and shovel sidewalks in

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<v Speaker 1>this weather.

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<v Speaker 2>No no, no, Scott, I appreciate you leave it off

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<v Speaker 2>with the drama there.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's take it up to what's actually going on here.

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<v Speaker 3>So the city.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually already has on its books ordinances around shoveling the sidewalks,

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<v Speaker 2>and one of the problems that we've discovered last year

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<v Speaker 2>with the snow emergency is that we don't actually have

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<v Speaker 2>any enforceable mechanisms to this. And so whether you're dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with your sidewalks by your house, whether you're in a

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<v Speaker 2>business district, whether you're downtown, if you run into sidewalks

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<v Speaker 2>that are covered in snow a week after the snowstorm,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no way for you to report it. There's nobody

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<v Speaker 2>whose job it is to maintain it and check in

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<v Speaker 2>on it, and there's nobody who's there to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that we're actually doing this job. So what this motion

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<v Speaker 2>asks is what does the administration need, much like we

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<v Speaker 2>asked last year around the snowpop what does it need

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to take the next step and actually

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<v Speaker 2>make sure we're enforcing this appropriately and helping your the

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<v Speaker 2>city going this isn't about going after you know, residential neighbors.

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<v Speaker 2>This is about making sure that we all as a

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<v Speaker 2>community are coming together and actually being able to take

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<v Speaker 2>care of our sidewalks too.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so this this would apply then primarily to the

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<v Speaker 1>residential I'm sorry, the business district areas or places of business.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it's all it's all Cincinnati, but I anticipate

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be primarily the business district areas. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we've seen a lot of complaints coming in. Downtown has

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<v Speaker 2>had a number of complaints about you can tell who

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<v Speaker 2>the properties owners are to clear the sidewalks so.

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<v Speaker 3>You can tell who have it.

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<v Speaker 2>We've also seen, you know, a lot of complaints around

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<v Speaker 2>the city of Cincinnati, like owning property that we haven't cleared,

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<v Speaker 2>and then questionable property where you're like, is it the city,

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<v Speaker 2>is it somebody else?

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<v Speaker 3>And who needs to be responsible for it?

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<v Speaker 2>One, for example, is the bridge going from Clifton to

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<v Speaker 2>north Side. What we need to be able to do

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<v Speaker 2>is have a system in place to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>get peace concerns and then make sure that we get

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<v Speaker 2>them cleared, whether that's through some city mechanism, whether that's

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<v Speaker 2>to hire in private contractors and whatever it is, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty big important Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I had our buddy on from ODOT last week and

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<v Speaker 1>he said that, you know, sometimes you see a road

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<v Speaker 1>plowed and then it'll not be plowed, and then it'll

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<v Speaker 1>be plowed again. Is like that has to do with jurisdiction, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like odubts in chart generally have highways, but then you

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<v Speaker 1>have the county. Then you have local municipalities cities like Cincinnati, villages,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. And sometimes between all those enterprises, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>quite sure who is responsible for that stretch. And normally,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's an intro or typically we get interured to

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<v Speaker 1>a snow it is not a big deal. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking feet, different story.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, And what we currently do not have is a

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<v Speaker 2>mechanism SCOT if you want to call and tell us

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<v Speaker 2>that there's a sidewalk that need to get shoveled after

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<v Speaker 2>a week, there's no mechanisms for that.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's you know, I'll stop sort.

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<v Speaker 2>Of saying it's a problem because I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 2>the problem on the scale of the snow pot as you

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<v Speaker 2>was last year, but it is the next step in

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<v Speaker 2>this how do we proposely handle snow as we're looking

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<v Speaker 2>at you know, I'm seeing three to five inches tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, if you're if you're trying to walk

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<v Speaker 2>to a business and you're trying to walk to your car,

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<v Speaker 2>you're trying to get to you know, take your dog

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<v Speaker 2>for a walk, that's that is a big deal to

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<v Speaker 2>be kind of going through these various grades and it

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<v Speaker 2>becomes pretty unsafe for people. And so if we can't

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<v Speaker 2>even get the reporting on it, how do we how

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<v Speaker 2>do we take Diamex Stap actually solve this problem?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so where do you extend this that stass?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you mentioned real estate owners is the target,

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<v Speaker 1>but are we talking about absentee landlords just commercial property only?

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<v Speaker 1>What about like something like an apartment complex. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>define who isn't who's doing their job?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think you can define it as pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much a sidewalk. And this wouldn't yes anywhere that has

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<v Speaker 2>a sidewalk that is not being shoveled, you know, several

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<v Speaker 2>days to the week after the snowfall event. Whether that

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<v Speaker 2>is a private property owner, whether that's the City of Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 2>whether that's oda. We need to be having these standards

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure gets taken care of. I think there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people that are rightfully frustrated that city

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<v Speaker 2>society hasn't shoveled our own sidewalks.

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<v Speaker 3>And right now we haven't even we don't even allow

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<v Speaker 3>you to be able to tell us that that's the problems.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's get that salved like, let's hold everybody to

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<v Speaker 2>the same standard, because again, it's a safety issue.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's it's about people.

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<v Speaker 2>We're trying to have people walk more, have more pedestrian safety.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to have the sidewalks. You see people walking

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<v Speaker 2>in the streets because they can't access the sidewalks. That

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<v Speaker 2>becomes dangerous for everybody, from the people who are walking

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<v Speaker 2>to the motorists. It's just not a safe environment.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I mentioned kind of tongue in cheek Seth Wall

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<v Speaker 1>jokingly about senior sitting. You know, eighty year old Betty,

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<v Speaker 1>you're next door neighbor. She's not going out and shovel.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you can't physically shovel, and how do you

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<v Speaker 1>differentiate when that in a proper dinner, who's neglecting their responsibility?

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<v Speaker 3>How do you verify this well?

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<v Speaker 2>And that's part of what we're asking in the emotion

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<v Speaker 2>here is what does the city administration need to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to run an effective program? And much like if

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<v Speaker 2>your sidewalk gets destroyed by tree roots and is lifting up,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a couple of inches and you have to

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<v Speaker 2>have it taken out, there are systems in place where

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<v Speaker 2>you can get it replaced by yourself or the city

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<v Speaker 2>brings in contractors seeing it taken care of, and then

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<v Speaker 2>there are ways to get creative about it to solve

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<v Speaker 2>it where you're not putting the burden on your eighty

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<v Speaker 2>five year old neighbor, but we are solving the problem

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<v Speaker 2>which off the sidewalks, make these passable straight you know,

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<v Speaker 2>save sidewalks.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, in the case of the eight year old neighbor,

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<v Speaker 1>so who paid? Does a taxpayer pay for that? Or

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<v Speaker 1>do you have to build? Do you build? The property owner?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that's something that the adminstration needs to

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<v Speaker 2>come back to tell us, you know, what the costs

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<v Speaker 2>would be on that, you know, if if it's in

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<v Speaker 2>the obscene coss I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure there's a way we can work that out.

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<v Speaker 2>And at the same time, you have contractors that are

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<v Speaker 2>out there being able to do this because we have

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<v Speaker 2>to take care of the safe property at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we can figure that out as well. Right now,

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<v Speaker 2>we're at the information gathering stage. Last year we were

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<v Speaker 2>so worried about the roads high getting cloud. This year

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<v Speaker 2>we have had such a great success at the roads

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<v Speaker 2>getting cloud. The system worked. Now you have the next problem,

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<v Speaker 2>which do you want people to be able to walk

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<v Speaker 2>in the sidewalks aren't getting there?

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<v Speaker 3>How do we answer? How do we address that? Right? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll pivot for just a second off this outBut

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned the success that the crews had. I've saw

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<v Speaker 1>nothing but glowering reviews for the snow removal, but also

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<v Speaker 1>that plow tracking app as well. It was down for

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<v Speaker 1>a while. Weren't quite sure with the mechanics. There's always

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<v Speaker 1>growing pains. I think we talked about this before Seth Walsh.

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<v Speaker 1>But but you know, from what I could tell and

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<v Speaker 1>looking at it during the snow event and probably on's

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<v Speaker 1>happening tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything looks really good.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you guys really turned the corner on the

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<v Speaker 1>snow removal thing, largely because of your efforts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean this is something that I think a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people deserve credit and kudos for you know,

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<v Speaker 2>last year we failed as leaders in terms of making

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<v Speaker 2>sure that we were set up for the team to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to go out and succeed at it. We

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<v Speaker 2>had six hundred streets, we just didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 3>We didn't. Wow, that's not acceptable, and we said that,

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<v Speaker 3>and we sent the.

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<v Speaker 2>Last year working to make sure that we have the

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<v Speaker 2>six hundred streets identified, that we had the systems in

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<v Speaker 2>place and succeed that we knew days in advance we

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<v Speaker 2>could prepare for and take care of it so that

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<v Speaker 2>when we sent our workers out there, we worked twelve

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<v Speaker 2>hour shifts. You know, they are they're doing the Lord's

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<v Speaker 2>work in this and they needed to make sure they're supported,

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<v Speaker 2>and we made sure they're actually supported this time. You

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<v Speaker 2>see how remarkable the team is once they actually have

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<v Speaker 2>their appropriate support from the snowplowd tracker working to being

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<v Speaker 2>able to see what streets were being taken care of,

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<v Speaker 2>to see that we had two days in advance we

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<v Speaker 2>were salting and preparing for the storms, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>literally getting these streets covered and taking care of. Within

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<v Speaker 2>like thirty six hours, we had ninety five percent of

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<v Speaker 2>the streets passable.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean It was really incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>But it took us being honest with ourselves, which I

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<v Speaker 2>think is one of the hardest things in government, to

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<v Speaker 2>admit that, hey, we came up short.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to do better, right, right, and often there

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<v Speaker 1>are enough people taking the hit for that, going hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's on my watch, it's going to happen. He's council

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<v Speaker 1>Member Seth Walsh proposing a new ordin Cincinnati that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to enforce with a little bit more teeth that you

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<v Speaker 1>have to remove the snow from your sidewalks. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>apply to a driveway though, right if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>not shovel your own driveway, it's up to you, although

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the sidewalk usually does cross a driveway. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know I'm backing up on this thing too, is

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<v Speaker 1>how long before how long do you give someone to

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<v Speaker 1>shovel the snow? Is it within twenty four hours? Forty

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<v Speaker 1>eight a week? How long to shovel the snow that fell?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>So on the first point, now, this doesn't impact driveways.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the driveways your private property. The sidewalks are

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<v Speaker 2>of the public property.

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<v Speaker 3>Here.

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<v Speaker 2>The second part of this is, in my opinion, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if we're trying to get everyone's streets cleared within forty

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<v Speaker 2>eight hours. After that forty eight hour mark is that

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<v Speaker 2>we should expect the sidewalks are getting appropriately cleared as well.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we had some issues last last week where

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<v Speaker 2>people cleared their sidewalks and then the snowplowd came through

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of snowgup dumped back on the sidewalk.

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<v Speaker 3>That doesn't very feel very fair.

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<v Speaker 2>That feels a little punitive for those who are trying

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<v Speaker 2>to do the right thing. It's a situation where once

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<v Speaker 2>a snow emergency has stopped, we've gotten the streets taken

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<v Speaker 2>care of.

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<v Speaker 3>Now we have to make sure the sidewalks become passable.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's a priority order to this.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're not saying, hey, the snowstorm is coming down, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be out there and make sure there's not a

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<v Speaker 2>ounce of snow out there. We're saying, you know, we're

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<v Speaker 2>all a team, you know, especially now you look we're

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<v Speaker 2>a week out on the storm.

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<v Speaker 3>We need to make sure that the sidewalks are passable.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Seth Walsh on that, And I've brought up the

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<v Speaker 1>older neighbors that may not be able to even plow

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<v Speaker 1>their own driveway. That may pay for the drive to

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<v Speaker 1>be plowed, to be a little extra, a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more money on them to get the sidewalks done as

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<v Speaker 1>part of that. Businesses may be a little bit different

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<v Speaker 1>in that regard to but you know, all it would

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<v Speaker 1>take is someone to go, hey, they're going after this.

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<v Speaker 1>You know this elderly widow or widow. We're they don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the money, they're fixed income, they can't go out

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<v Speaker 1>there and shovel their own thing. And now you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to crack down. And that feels like it's like an

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<v Speaker 1>IT team thing waiting to happen. But the same thing is, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>my next door neighbor. Let's say, you know, it's an

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<v Speaker 1>individual who works two or three jobs, doesn't have time

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<v Speaker 1>to shovel their own driveway, let alone the snowplow or

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<v Speaker 1>hiring someone to do that because they're trying to keep

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<v Speaker 1>their head above water. In that regard, would the enforcement

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<v Speaker 1>be punitive as you mentioned, because you look at them

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<v Speaker 1>and go, oh, okay, it's an older person. They can't

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<v Speaker 1>afford it, they cannot do themselves. But you've got a

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<v Speaker 1>younger next door neighbor. Shouldn't they be out there doing

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<v Speaker 1>it well. If you're working all the time, it's awfully

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<v Speaker 1>tough to do that. How do you respond.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a number of ordnances that are on the

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<v Speaker 2>books currently that you may feel like are targeting are

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<v Speaker 2>more vulnerable citizens, and the way that we handle it

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<v Speaker 2>as a city is that we provide funds and resources

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure that they're being taken care of as well.

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<v Speaker 3>None of these are designed in a way.

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<v Speaker 2>In which we are trying to punish, you know, our

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<v Speaker 2>elderly citizens or those who will work see multiple jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>We're just trying to make sure the sidewalks to become passable.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, you know this isn't an ordinance. There already

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<v Speaker 2>ordinances on the books that you know have this enforcement mechanism.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no way to report it right now.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think where the majority of these issues are happening, frankly,

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<v Speaker 2>our city of society properties.

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<v Speaker 3>Yea, And I think we have to do better as

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<v Speaker 3>a city. That's something in a mantra keep saying out there.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you don't even allow you to op change

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<v Speaker 2>to tell us that these are problems and we can't

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<v Speaker 2>solve the problems.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you feel like set there should be and

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<v Speaker 1>again this is just the very primitive form of stage

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<v Speaker 1>is there's nothing even close to becoming legislation at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, hey, how do we get the and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a safety is how do we get the snow off

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<v Speaker 1>the sidewalks because the reality is you've got kids trying

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<v Speaker 1>to go to school or walk to the bus stop,

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<v Speaker 1>or people waiting for metro, whatever it might be, and

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<v Speaker 1>now they've got to stand in the road and that's

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<v Speaker 1>just horribly unsafe that that's the whole point of this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I've seen way too many people in the

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<v Speaker 2>last weeks who couldn't pass through the sidewalks, so they're

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<v Speaker 2>just walking down the middle of the street. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>arguably safer for them because they because of the slippage

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<v Speaker 2>and the ice.

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<v Speaker 3>That has accumulated. It's not safer because you have these

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<v Speaker 3>vehicles that are coming along. It's not safer for them,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not safer for the vehicles. And so again, as

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<v Speaker 3>a community, we have to step up and do better.

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<v Speaker 3>And so how do we do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, we're not trying to be punitive here, We're just

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<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out ways and we can solve problems

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<v Speaker 2>that have arisen, and frankly, of all the problems that

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<v Speaker 2>we had last year, for this to be the next

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<v Speaker 2>issue to tackle, I think it's a good side of

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<v Speaker 2>where the city's setting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you got the roads tackled. Now it's the sidewalks

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<v Speaker 1>which is challenging in different ways. I suppose seth and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see what comes of this whole thing. I would

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<v Speaker 1>also think too, that this is such an unusually heavy

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<v Speaker 1>snowfall winter for us. We normally don't get this much

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<v Speaker 1>so in a short period of time, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a storm or we get four inches or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that, and we treat it like it's a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, a foot of snow and plus what we're

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<v Speaker 1>getting tomorrow on sidewalks, yeah, that's impassable. You know, an

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<v Speaker 1>inch or two you probably can walk over that. And

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<v Speaker 1>so is this kind of preparing for the quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>hundred year flood as opposed to what we normally say.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, last year, I got a lot of criticism

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<v Speaker 2>when I was when I was saying that we need

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<v Speaker 2>better on the snowplows because everyone said it was a

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<v Speaker 2>once in a twenty year storm, and barely twelve months later,

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<v Speaker 2>that once in a twenty year storm hit again.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the reality is we do live in a

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<v Speaker 2>city where snowhall events happen, and we don't know when

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<v Speaker 2>the next big snowstorm is. We didn't think two weeks together,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to have two big storms within.

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<v Speaker 3>A two week period.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet that's what we're staring down the gun on. So, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>this is an important issue to make sure that we

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<v Speaker 2>continue to just improve on.

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<v Speaker 3>And I hope that we don't have to experience it

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<v Speaker 3>for the next hundred years.

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<v Speaker 2>But if I've learned anything about my predictions, if you will,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll try to have it again in the next three weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>And so let's just be ready and let's start having

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<v Speaker 2>these conversations and figure.

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<v Speaker 3>Out again as a community, how do.

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<v Speaker 2>We do better and how do we work with each

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<v Speaker 2>other make sure we're supporting the administration for what they

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<v Speaker 2>need and the resources they need to be successful.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the good news is much like diarrhea, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>hang on too much longer.

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<v Speaker 3>Here on.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a few weeks of this nonsense, Seth Walsh,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll be we'll be headed to spring. I

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<v Speaker 1>think with Red's baseball, Aunu Suarez now we're in a

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<v Speaker 1>red uniform, so we got hope down at a great

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<v Speaker 1>American ballpark for our red legs. But of course with

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<v Speaker 1>warmer temperature and all these cold and freezing and the snows,

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<v Speaker 1>the the you know, the warming and freezing cycle, we

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<v Speaker 1>got to worry about potholes.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, are we here?

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is going to focus from clearing sidewalks

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<v Speaker 1>to pothole damage in a few short weeks, and are

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<v Speaker 1>we prepared to deal with the probably immeasurable amount of

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<v Speaker 1>potholes Last year it was a high pothole season. This

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<v Speaker 1>year I would suspect the same. Are we better in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six than we were in twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>on us?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, potholes didn't get as much attention last year

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<v Speaker 2>in the media as the snowstorm did, but it did

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<v Speaker 2>get a lot of attention on the inside of city Hall.

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<v Speaker 3>House Member Nolan obviously did.

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<v Speaker 2>A you know, quick blitz to try to come up with

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<v Speaker 2>some solutions for the pothole how we can do better

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<v Speaker 2>at podoles, and then House I believe today is actually

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<v Speaker 2>going to be approving funding to buy new equipment from

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<v Speaker 2>Pothole Feelings, So hopefully you're going to see improvement or

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<v Speaker 2>remarkable improvement. Again, it's under the same new director who's

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<v Speaker 2>solved our Sonowpo situation.

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<v Speaker 3>Mark Riley.

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<v Speaker 2>So I feel optimistic, but let's have that conversation of

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<v Speaker 2>four weeks when we get to see it in action, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and hopefully we are better than we have been

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<v Speaker 1>in the past when it comes to poddles. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's snow on sidewalks. What's the timeline for this proposal?

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<v Speaker 2>So we were filing it today, which means we will

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<v Speaker 2>officially vote on it next week and hopefully we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>resolves quickly from there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right, No, we think this is a priority

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<v Speaker 3>for the city.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I get what is you're trying to do because

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<v Speaker 1>you can't have people, especially kids, walking in the street

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<v Speaker 1>because the sidewalks aren't cleared for sure. So anyway, hey, Seth,

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you jump and I always love having you on

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<v Speaker 1>the program. And thanks again, buddy, have a good.

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<v Speaker 3>Day, Thanks Scott.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, anytime there you go, Seth Walsh on The

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<v Speaker 1>Scott's Loan Show. There may be some questions how are

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<v Speaker 1>you enforced this namely, but I get the concept because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when sicy and cold out people walk in

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<v Speaker 1>the street because at least the road is cleared, and

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<v Speaker 1>in the past you couldn't walk anywhere because the roads

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<v Speaker 1>weren't cleared.

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<v Speaker 3>So I guess we're making progress.

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<v Speaker 1>of the relationship be held onto, namely unfulfilling relationships. Why

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<v Speaker 1>do we continue to do that when it's not getting

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<v Speaker 1>us anywhere and making us worse. We'll talk about that

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<v Speaker 1>coming up after news on seven hundred WLW.