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Speaker 1: One on one point, Katwa ryashell.

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Speaker 2: I believe it's Kitlyn, Is it Caitlin? Caitlin, thanks for

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Speaker 2: being on KWB for your group therapy. You wrote in

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Speaker 2: an email, and we're going to kind of go back

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Speaker 2: and forth and I'll read a little bit of the

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Speaker 2: email and then we'll talk to you a little bit.

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Speaker 2: So this past summer, you met a guy, we'll call

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Speaker 2: him Sam, on a dating app. We only went on

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Speaker 2: one date, but he kissed me at the end and

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Speaker 2: we both had a good time. He would text frequently

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Speaker 2: and we should exchange some not safe for work pictures.

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Speaker 1: Okay, get a girl.

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Speaker 2: No judging there. I think that's great. Actually you sent

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Speaker 2: him some and he sent you some. Okay, I mean,

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Speaker 2: don't be embarrassed. It happens all the time. Nobody admits it,

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Speaker 2: but it happens all the time. The thing that I

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Speaker 2: don't think he realized is that Facebook finds out everything.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't long before he came up as a friend

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Speaker 2: suggestion when you saw that, what did you see on

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Speaker 2: his Facebook page?

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 4: What I saw on his Facebook page? The first thing

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Speaker 4: that came up was a picture of him and his

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Speaker 4: girlfriend together.

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Speaker 2: No, no, So then you asked him about it. You're like, wait,

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Speaker 2: there's a girlfriend. What's that all about. You never told

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Speaker 2: me that you had a girlfriend, right, right? And what

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Speaker 2: did he say?

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Speaker 4: So what you told me is that you know, he

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Speaker 4: was kind of seeing both of us at the same time,

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Speaker 4: and he was just trying to kind of settle on

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Speaker 4: which one of us he wanted to date.

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Speaker 5: How did you feel about that?

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Speaker 4: I mean, it sounded like it was potentially that he

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Speaker 4: was telling it was potential that he was telling the truth, okay.

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Speaker 4: And the thing that kind of threw me off on

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Speaker 4: it though, it's like I could see some of the

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Speaker 4: posts that she wrote, and like this came up pretty

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Speaker 4: much the day after he sent me one of his photos, okay.

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Speaker 4: So I was like, okay, so he's already like officially

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Speaker 4: dating this girl, it's on Facebook, but he's still sending

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Speaker 4: me pictures.

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Speaker 1: So that sounds like he was lying about how long

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Speaker 1: he'd been dating her.

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Speaker 4: I think so.

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Speaker 2: And so then you're kind of following and where you

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Speaker 2: did you as you're kind of following him over the

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Speaker 2: next few months on Facebook, was he still like, you know,

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Speaker 2: sending seeing you anything like that as he's traveling around

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Speaker 2: the world with this girl.

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Speaker 4: Basically after that, I kind of thought, you know, it

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Speaker 4: was over. I wasn't gonna hear from idea. And then

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Speaker 4: he tended me on Facebook so I could follow his

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Speaker 4: profile and see what was going on, and typically I

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Speaker 4: want to do that, but I was kind of curious

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Speaker 4: to see if I can find like more information on

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Speaker 4: whether or not heathan seeing her for a while while

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Speaker 4: we were talking, and so I kind of looked through

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Speaker 4: and it was really hard to tell for sure, but

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Speaker 4: he did break off contact with me. He didn't really

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Speaker 4: talk to me for six months time, watching him like

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Speaker 4: traveling the Philippines and Japan doing Christmas photos with this

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Speaker 4: girl and her family.

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Speaker 6: Like clearly dating another woman, very seriously.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, and then she's posting about what a great

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Speaker 2: boyfriend he is and how much he loves him and

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Speaker 2: that type of thing.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, she's talking about what an amazing partner he is,

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Speaker 4: Like every time they do an adventure, she's got a

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Speaker 4: post stuff about it.

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Speaker 2: Now, let's cut to the present day. He messaged you

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Speaker 2: when recently.

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Speaker 4: He messaged me two days ago.

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Speaker 2: Two days ago, so Sunday, it looks like, yeah, what

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Speaker 2: did he say? So you had seen him? You realize

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Speaker 2: they had a girlfriend. You kind of broke off contact.

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Speaker 2: He's traveling around the world with her. They look like

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Speaker 2: they're very much a couple out of nowhere. After months,

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Speaker 2: he texts you.

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Speaker 5: What did he say?

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Speaker 4: Well, he starts with a thing with that sexy and

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Speaker 4: I was just like, what I'm getting. I'm working today,

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Speaker 4: and I asked him what was to him? And he's like, oh,

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Speaker 4: you know, I'm home today and just relaxing, but I've

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Speaker 4: got this morning wood situation that I could use mourning.

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Speaker 2: What situation? Oh, he's got a morning wood situation. Would

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Speaker 2: to stay home? So and then so he that's kind

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Speaker 2: of a you know, an upfront kind of an aggressive

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Speaker 4: And so he was like, oh, I'm sorry, I'm being

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Speaker 4: so forward. And I'm like, well, you know, I wouldn't

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Speaker 4: mind you being so forward, but aren't you not single,

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Speaker 4: Like don't you have a girlfriend? And he was like, yes,

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Speaker 4: you're absolutely right, I have a girlfriend, and I'm just

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Speaker 4: being naughty right now.

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Speaker 2: So he wants to kind of like reignite the pictures

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Speaker 2: back and forth and maybe hooking up.

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Speaker 5: Yes, how do you know he wants to hook up?

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Speaker 2: That he exactly like that.

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Speaker 5: Was pretty explicit, of course.

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Speaker 4: But what has happened then? So when he when he

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Speaker 4: said that to me, I basically told him, you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm not interested in doing this to another girl, like

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Like I don't I don't feel comfortable.

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Speaker 5: With this, like a homewrecker.

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Speaker 4: What yesterday? Yesterday he texted me again and he was like, Oh,

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Speaker 4: I'd really like to see you again. Are you a

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Speaker 4: top bottom or both?

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Speaker 5: Oh my god?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 5: Whoa? What's like?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a different thing that you can do when

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Speaker 1: you hang out with people, but at top, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe both, maybe your bottom whatever that is that you

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Speaker 1: said you were uninterested in getting involved?

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Speaker 4: Yes, and now with that coming back yes, So the

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Speaker 4: question I have now is like I've already told him

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Speaker 4: I don't want to do this, But do I tell

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Speaker 4: his girlfriend about this? Like I've never met this girl,

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Speaker 4: I don't know her. Do I send her a message?

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Speaker 4: Do I send her to the screen shots of what

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Speaker 4: he's been texting me?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I would say no. I would say no, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because she just remove yourself from the entire situation. He's

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Speaker 2: going to lie he's going to say, you're the crazy one.

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Speaker 2: He's going to say. I would say, you know what,

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Speaker 2: just don't start a bitter back and forth. Just yeah,

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Speaker 2: I know you feel like you owe it to her,

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Speaker 2: but I don't think that you do. But you know

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Speaker 2: that's just my opinion. Maybe you'll talk me out of it,

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Speaker 2: you guys, but I say, remove yourself from the whole

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Speaker 2: ugly situation, block him, block him on Facebook, and just

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Speaker 6: I would be petty and I would say something to

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Speaker 6: the girlfriend and then just block them both, like, hey,

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Speaker 6: here's some screenshots there, you go block block.

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Speaker 3: But see the problem with that is what if she

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Speaker 3: don't care? Then you just went and did that for

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Speaker 3: no reason. I mean, I guess it doesn't. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's only like two seconds out of your day.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, okay, Well put it in this scenario, Bailey,

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Speaker 1: of this, if you were his girlfriend, would you want

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Speaker 1: some random girl letting you know that he doing that?

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Speaker 6: I mean I would want to know that my man

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Speaker 6: be trifling. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. What if

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Speaker 6: the girlfriend reacts and she's like whatever, But we're we're speculating.

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Speaker 6: What if she doesn't care, But what if she does care.

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Speaker 2: The chances that she doesn't care are very very thin.

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Speaker 5: She would care, and I don't think I would say something.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious if anyone listening has been in this position

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Speaker 1: before and what you did, Like if you want to

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Speaker 1: call in and let us know, because I'm sure there's

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Speaker 1: different stories of where I backfired, or there's stories where

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Speaker 1: like now you're best friends with that girl, because I

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Speaker 1: also what I'm friends with who like I had met out,

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Speaker 1: met up with him. I met him at the bar,

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Speaker 1: we had made out, and she deducted that I had

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Speaker 1: based on This was when you could see who you

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Speaker 1: followed on Instagram recently, and so she found me and

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Speaker 1: like asked me, and I was like, I'm literally so sorry,

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Speaker 1: Like I met him at the bar that night, obviously

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Speaker 1: I are like homies, but and we both were like,

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Speaker 1: see you Leida to that guy.

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Speaker 3: So he just texted and brought the subs and says

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Speaker 3: he has photos of her. So yeah, if I snitch

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Speaker 5: What if you could beat my butt?

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Speaker 4: But yeah, he has.

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Speaker 6: Photos of her, but before she knew he had a girlfriend.

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Speaker 5: I mean yeah, but at that point, the girlfriend won't

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Speaker 1: I don't think that she's snitching on herself because she

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Speaker 1: and then she said, no, I'm not interested in this stuff.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: A lot of text messages are saying, screenshot that girl,

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Speaker 6: Send the screenshots to the girlfriend, block them all.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that there are plenty of people

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Speaker 1: just like emotional immaturity at that rioint.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 1: Most people are like mature enough to be like, thanks

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Speaker 2: Ooh, you know, doug Art, be couple of interesting text

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Speaker 2: messages and we'll get some phone calls to uh six

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Speaker 2: five one nine eight nine kW be. The text is

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Speaker 2: KDWB one tell her my ex cheated and the girl

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Speaker 2: sent me everything. She owed me nothing, but we still

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Speaker 2: talk to this day and he is married to someone new.

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Speaker 2: Then there's this one. Honestly, this guy sounds totally insane.

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Speaker 2: I would block his number and not get involved. You

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Speaker 2: don't know what kind of crazy that level of crazy

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Speaker 2: could go to, especially if he saved photos of you before.

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Speaker 2: Best to block, ignore, and not get involved. Likely you're

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Speaker 2: not the only one that he's been trying to do

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Speaker 2: this with either. That's a very good point. Let me

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Speaker 2: grab some phone calls here, so in case you just

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Speaker 2: turn your radio on, let me kind of reset this

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Speaker 2: for you. So we're talking to Kaitlin. Caitlin was seeing

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Speaker 2: a guy kind of like you know in back and

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Speaker 2: forth text messages, they send them not safe for work photos,

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Speaker 2: back and forth, and then long story short, she found

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Speaker 2: out that he's like got a girlfriend, and not just

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Speaker 5: And go to the Bahama. Serious girlfriend.

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Speaker 2: Serious girlfriend, And so she didn't talk to him for

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Speaker 2: months and months. Send On Sunday, he text messager and said, basically,

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Speaker 2: you want to hook up, you want to get naughty,

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Speaker 2: And she's like, do I tell his girlfriend? Because you

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Speaker 4: So I'm friends with him on Facebook and through that

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Speaker 5: I see, of course.

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, we have Jennifer on the phone to give

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Speaker 7: I would tell her to tell the girl because you

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Speaker 7: Happened to me and oh my gosh, I think ninth

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Speaker 4: This was before cell phone, so you can take.

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Speaker 7: Pictures or anything. So we figured we're going to get

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Speaker 7: back at him. She invited him over, you know, for

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Wow, John Tucker must die before you plan this.

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Speaker 5: Wow this five.

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Speaker 2: Somebody said, what if he retaliates and shares her photos publicly?

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Speaker 2: That is illegal? Yeah, and very illegal. So there's a

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Speaker 2: Revenge porn exactly. Text messages a bunch of these. Leave

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Speaker 2: it alone, don't tell his girlfriend, block him, and go

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Speaker 2: about your life. It's not worth the fight. Another says,

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Speaker 2: I've been in this situation before. The girl didn't believe me,

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Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying, stay together, be crazy together.

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Speaker 1: But like at the risk that that person is emotionally mature,

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Speaker 2: That's why I never put my face in any nudes

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Speaker 5: Can I send a lot?

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Speaker 2: I sent Bailey nude of you yesterday. Yeah, a bikini.

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Speaker 5: You can't share those? Why not? Because going to live

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Speaker 5: right now? Go on YouTube live right now. It's a

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Speaker 5: picture of David a bikini.

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Speaker 3: You posted a picture of the biceps, and then somebody

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Speaker 5: That same picture.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, ai ai yet I took up the other day,

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Speaker 2: I took a picture of myself in my twenty one

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Speaker 1: Oh, I was like, where did I miss this?

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Speaker 4: I didn't see this.

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Speaker 5: On instagrams because he only said to me. But anyway, Caitlyn,

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Speaker 2: What do you what? A way, let's go around the

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Speaker 2: room and vote here. Yeah, okay, I say, stay out

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Speaker 2: of it, don't give don't put yourself through any you

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Speaker 2: gag guy, can't believe that you did. Blah blah, just

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Speaker 2: walk away, block be done. Don't put yourself through it, Jenny, I.

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Speaker 1: Say, tell the girlfriend, but keep it very short and

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Speaker 5: I would also tell.

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Speaker 6: I would say, here's the facts, here's the screenshots, just

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Speaker 5: No, I think you were kind of complicit in sending pictures.

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Speaker 3: So just no, if you don't want anything, if you

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Speaker 3: don't think anything, or if you don't think you want

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Speaker 1: Just let it be bl I just want to clarify

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Speaker 1: because Caitlin did that before she knew he had a girlfriend.

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Speaker 5: I know. I just don't want it to backfire in her.

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Speaker 6: But still then, like, you can't just like go your

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Speaker 6: if they have a girlfriend?

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Speaker 5: I didn't say that though. I never said that.

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Speaker 6: Well, I don't like, yeah, I don't want to operate

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Speaker 6: in fear that, well, what if they share my photos?

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Speaker 5: So I can't say anything.

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Speaker 6: No, like that girl deserves to know that her boyfriend

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question. Are you doing it

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Speaker 2: then for the girlfriend or to get revenge on the guy? Okay,

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Speaker 4: I've talked to a lot of people about this one

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Speaker 4: The thing is like, I don't really feel like I

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Speaker 4: just kind of thing what happens, letting them figure it out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, and then block so because I can't believe

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Speaker 2: be your fault, not his fault. Caitlyn, thanks for calling

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Speaker 5: Love sucks love love.

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Speaker 2: And relationships and things like that that you know, right,

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Speaker 5: Sometimes it does work out.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's like it's like it's like antique. Most

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Speaker 2: antiques are garbage, yes, but you keep going through the

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Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying, antique in man.

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Speaker 2: I know you're tired of antiquing, but you're looking for

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Speaker 2: that nineteen thirties candy dish.

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Speaker 5: You gotta find it.

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Speaker 6: But what if that nineteen thirties candy dish is cheating

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Speaker 5: Okay, you can't guarantee it. I'm li likening your antique.

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Speaker 2: To what we were just trying to understand that. No,

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Speaker 2: I know, I totally understand that. So there is your

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Speaker 2: group therapy. You had any questions something you're going through.

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Speaker 2: Send it in to Ryan Show at kdwb at dot com.