1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati. 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. 3 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: What an honor, what a treat we have today on 4 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 2: this Wednesday afternoon. Since he three to sixty rolling along 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 2: a guy that really needs no introduction? Does he Austin? 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 2: Do we even want to give him an introduction? 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 3: Or just going right down? 8 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 4: I mean he's been a longtime contributors. Sometime this show. 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 4: He deserves it. He's on Mount rushmore of the show. 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: He's covering the Cincinnati Bengals for Sports Illustrated. 11 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 3: Had a stint in Cleveland. Who's a Browns. 12 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: Guy for a while, Cavz guy for a while. Now 13 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 2: he's back here where it all started for him. He's 14 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 2: rocking a beautiful Cincinnati Bearcats hat. He may have some 15 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: information on the next head coach of the Cincinnati Bearcats. 16 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: Our guy James rpen is with us right now. Hi, James, 17 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: how are you? 18 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 3: I'm great. I appreciate the introduction. 19 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 4: I will say clearly you're not going to be the 20 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 4: next head coach because you have your own Sincy three 21 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 4: to sixty. Your name's in the show now, so I'm 22 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 4: not sure you can go anywhere nowhere. 23 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 3: I'm locked in here until they. 24 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 4: Rushmore of this show. I'm shocked I didn't get a 25 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 4: vote on the name. I'm just gonna throw that out there. 26 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 4: I thought I would at least get some input. You 27 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 4: weren't the only one who didn't get a vote on 28 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 4: the name. Also, Tony just clapped for you, which I 29 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 4: don't remember him every clapping for a game. I think 30 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,559 Speaker 4: it's because he can see me right now, right where 31 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 4: you guys are doing this new video version, which is cool, 32 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 4: and he's like, man, James is good looking. 33 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 3: I just feel like I. 34 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 2: Have to pay so much more attention now when I 35 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: do this that I've got to put on a show 36 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:34,639 Speaker 2: for the camera. 37 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 3: Speaking of putting some Bowl games. 38 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 2: Speaking of putting on a show, how about those Bengals 39 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 2: and free agency? 40 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 3: Oh may that works? That works, That lines up transition. 41 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: It's it's very simple, because I think individually all three 42 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: moves that the Bengals made makes sense. What doesn't make 43 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: sense to me, James, is how how they've structured these deals, 44 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: how they've gone about in the guaranteed money in year one? 45 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: What do you make of of what has transpired and 46 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: what we've found out over the last couple of days 47 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: and how front loaded these deals are because it's great 48 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: for the future. But the idea I thought is win now, 49 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 2: win in twenty twenty six for the Cincinnati Bengals, what 50 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: did you make of it? 51 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 3: And it doesn't even really change the future. 52 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 4: Like the Cook one, you don't pro rate his full bonus, 53 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 4: and so you save a million dollars in cap space 54 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 4: next year when the CAP's going to go up like 55 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 4: crazy and you already have six figures or excuse me, 56 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 4: seven eight, eight digits, nine digits, nine digits. Man, I 57 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 4: just can't count that over one hundred million dollars in 58 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 4: cap space, right. So it's that's where it's frustrating, is 59 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 4: that they needed a lot. They needed to make up 60 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 4: for multiple years of underwhelming free agent periods and underwhelming 61 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 4: non instant contributor drafts in instant star drafts. And so 62 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 4: that's a hell of a lot to do in one 63 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 4: free agency, there's no doubt. But guess what, that's where 64 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 4: they were. And the sad part about this I was 65 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 4: kind of reviewing it and on my shows on Cincinnati 66 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 4: Bengals talking on Lockdown Bengals, we grated free agency this 67 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 4: week and they had a real chance to get an a. 68 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 4: They put themselves in position to just knock it all 69 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 4: the way out of the park eight days away from 70 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 4: ahead of opening day and really be in a great 71 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 4: spot going into the draft. 72 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 3: They were two moves away on. 73 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 4: Defense, odd take with two moves, and they didn't do that. 74 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 4: The contract structure certainly part of it. Not restructuring Joe 75 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 4: Burrow certainly part of it. It's it's maddening because I 76 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 4: like their moves in a vacuum and it sucks because 77 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 4: then I have to say, but they didn't do enough, 78 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 4: and they had to dig themself, well climb themselves out 79 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 4: of a hole that they've dug into over the past 80 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 4: three years, and they just didn't do enough. That ladder 81 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 4: wasn't tall enough to get it done. They did not 82 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 4: do enough in free agent. 83 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: Say they didn't do enough. They also have not addressed 84 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: linebacker for this team, which is a huge need. And 85 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: the news comes out that with a couple of the 86 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: linebacker candidates out there, they weren't even really interested in 87 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: those players to begin with. I'll ask you now, as 88 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 2: we sit here on the eighteenth of March, what's the 89 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 2: planet linebacker James. 90 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 4: Well, the plan was to get a real dude. And 91 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 4: I think that's the crazy part is like they were 92 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 4: in on kuay Walker. 93 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 3: There was real interest there. 94 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 4: They at least at one point, thought they would get 95 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 4: Lloyd from Jacksonville. I wasn't as in personally on kuay Walker. 96 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 4: But if it's Kuai Walker or nobody set me up 97 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 4: for quay Baby, let's go it's Quaida. And that did 98 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 4: not happen at all. And that's the unfortunate part is 99 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 4: like you were in position. You had the cap space, 100 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 4: you had the ability, you had the cash. They still 101 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 4: haven't spent as much cash as I thought they would 102 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 4: at this point, and maybe they're saving that for extensions 103 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 4: and things like that. But you had the resources to 104 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 4: use a Duke Tobin word to address linebacker in a 105 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 4: big way and still be open in a draft that's 106 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 4: full of good linebackers. And now it's kind of the opposite. 107 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 4: It feels like you have to have a linebacker at 108 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 4: some point, and I don't like this team when they 109 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 4: have to force it in the draft, I think that's 110 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 4: when they really screw it up. 111 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 3: And I wanted them. 112 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 4: To put themselves in position to where they could just say, hey, 113 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 4: Caleb Downs is there, Let's take them. That Sunny Styles 114 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 4: is there, Let's take them, or insert whoever in round 115 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 4: two is there, let's take them in. They're not in 116 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 4: that spot. 117 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: Now. 118 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 4: It feels like they're going to have to force a 119 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 4: need in each of their first few picks, and that's 120 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 4: just the wrong way to draft. 121 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the first few picks, because this, to 122 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 2: me is the worrisome part. We've always talked about can 123 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 2: you get to a point in free agency that you 124 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 2: can take the best player available. We had this conversation 125 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 2: last time you were on about and you threw Jeremiah 126 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: Love out there, and it's like, Okay, I know, but 127 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: if they do their work, if they handle their business, 128 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: then you can be in that conversation. We've talked about 129 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 2: the name Francis Mauinoa a lot on this on this station, 130 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: and can you do enough that tackle is all of 131 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: a sudden available when it comes to the draft. 132 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 3: But because of the lack. 133 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: Of getting the work done on the defensive side of 134 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: the ball, do you take offense off the board at 135 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: number ten right now? 136 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 3: I don't. I can't. It's not in my blood. I 137 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 3: don't care. 138 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 4: And it's not because it's offense. I wouldn't take defense 139 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 4: off the board if they really needed offense. Like you 140 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 4: mentioned the Browns earlier, guess what the brown should be 141 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 4: doing considering Caleb Downs and Ruben Bain because they're really 142 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 4: freaking good football players and David Bailey. Everyone in Cleveland 143 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 4: wants offense because they suck on offense. And that's fair. 144 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 4: I get it, I understand it. But you when you 145 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 4: do that, you really make it tough on yourself to 146 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 4: get it right. 147 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 3: I get it. 148 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 4: In an ideal world, the Bengals would get Caleb Downs 149 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 4: Ruben Bain and then they would get a star safety 150 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 4: or vice versa, an interior pass rusher, and then a 151 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 4: linebacker and they'd all be stars in rounds one, three, 152 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 4: three would be great. 153 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 3: It would be rosy. You look at their drafts, even 154 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 3: in the Jamar draft. That's it. 155 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 4: That's where it ends. Outside of a kicker, they fail 156 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 4: to pick and pick and pick and pick and pick. 157 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 4: And that's the problem is you cannot. I was talking 158 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 4: to someone in the building about this last week because 159 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 4: I thought it was going to be even more eventful 160 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 4: than it was, and I was like, you just can't 161 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 4: bank on these spots that you need to be much 162 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 4: better at. You cannot bank on a rookie coming in, 163 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 4: even with the tenth pick. It could take Ruben Bay 164 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 4: in eight weeks. Maybe Caleb Downs struggles a little bit 165 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 4: in that Nickel spot early on. You can't bank on 166 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 4: this guy, whoever you take at ten, to suddenly be 167 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 4: this game changer. And so that's why you address your 168 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 4: needs and they haven't fully done that. So to your point, 169 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 4: is it hard for me to envision them picking offense? Yes, 170 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 4: even for me, it is, and I hate it because 171 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 4: that's the wrong way to draft. Is there any thing 172 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 4: like obviously Al Golden said all this stuff about linebackers, 173 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 4: Duke Tobin used the words attack and use the word resource. 174 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 4: And I'm stuck on the linebacker spot because I've gone 175 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 4: back and I've watched these games. It's horrible. Is it's 176 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 4: not much different than if I was on the field. 177 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 4: And I'm not kidding, and I don't mean to take 178 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 4: that away from those guys, but it's true. What could 179 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 4: they have seen or what could have changed? Or do 180 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 4: you think it's just oh, we added these two guys 181 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 4: and that will or these three guys and that will 182 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 4: make those guys better. How did they explain or how 183 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 4: do they justify the lack of activity at that position. 184 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 3: I think that they would say. 185 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 4: And by the way, I'm just thinking about how you 186 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 4: would put Tony Pike in a blender on a football field. 187 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 4: That's without question, and so that was almost met for 188 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 4: the Bengals linebackers. 189 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 3: But I look at this, it would be Tony Pike's 190 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 3: three to six. 191 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 4: He'd be going in circles, all right, all right, but 192 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 4: I look at the the linebacker attack resource all of 193 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 4: those things and what Al Golden said, and I bet 194 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 4: you Al Golden, if you gave him truth serum, would 195 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 4: be like, man, I can't believe we're doing this. Like 196 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 4: there's some good linebackers in the draft, and we filled 197 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 4: these holes, but I can't believe. And they're probably reserved 198 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 4: to that fact now, like Okay, well, this is what 199 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 4: we're gonna do. And hopefully Sonny Styles is there r 200 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 4: Vel Reese for some miracle falls to ten. 201 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,479 Speaker 3: Who knows. But I think. 202 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 4: If you gave them truth serum, they would admit that 203 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 4: they wanted a real guy there to help stabilize that room. 204 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 4: They probably do believe in Barrett Carter and Demetrius Knight 205 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 4: with that same truth serum. But that doesn't mean that 206 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 4: you didn't need a number one, a true LB one and. 207 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 3: To bring those guys along. 208 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 4: And that's what they thought, at least that's what the 209 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 4: plan was with Logan Wilson last year. Then they got 210 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 4: on the field and they're like, Eh, we're gonna go 211 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 4: to Barrett Carter at some point anyway, And they went 212 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 4: earlier than they probably should have, but they did. They 213 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 4: went to Brett Carter and it was ugly and it 214 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 4: was awful, and so how do you upgrade that. Well, 215 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 4: you go out there and you make a splash. They 216 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 4: didn't do it. They whiffed, and that's it. Sometimes you 217 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 4: strike out, that's what they would probably say. But it's 218 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 4: a hell of a strikeout in a very much a 219 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 4: proven year for a lot of people in that building. 220 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 2: So I feel like this then sets up what could 221 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: be a tough scenario on draft night. Say, Sonny Styles 222 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 2: and Rvel Reese don't fall to number ten, and there's 223 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 2: a good possibility that David Bailey, Reuben Bain, and Caleb 224 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 2: Downs are also off the board at number ten, which 225 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 2: then turns into Vinsor Delaney, Dylan Theneman, Jermad McCoy's the 226 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 2: name we've thrown around. Monroe Freeling, the tackle from Georgia, 227 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: has been talked about in rising up draft boards. But 228 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 2: can you really sit there at number ten and justify 229 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: a corner or a safety, a tackle or a wide 230 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: receiver in mackay Lemon when you have all these other 231 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 2: holes on the defensive side of the ball. 232 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough. It's tough. 233 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 4: I would be calling Jadavian Clowney right now. Who I think. One, 234 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 4: he's hit Joe Burrow a hell of a lot. Two, 235 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 4: just shores up that hole just in case Bailey and 236 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 4: Baine aren't there. There's only two edge rushers you should 237 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 4: be considering at ten anyway. Fulk is gonna be talked about, 238 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 4: but I would not be considering him at ten. But 239 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,839 Speaker 4: a lot of those guys you mentioned, I'm like, eh, yeah, 240 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 4: like for nothing. 241 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 3: But McCoy. McCoy's awesome. 242 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 4: He hasn't done anything football wise on record in like 243 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 4: four hundred plus days. 244 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so it's like, man, that's a tough one. 245 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 4: Uh. Delaney, I think is is being discussed in the 246 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 4: light that he probably isn't his as a prospect. I 247 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 4: think theenemon is intriguing, Like if you think he can 248 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 4: go in and give you that freakish safety that can 249 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 4: play nickel and bounce around and stuff, and I think 250 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 4: Downs is that way. Is theenemon like that too? Then 251 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 4: you also kind of impact right away. 252 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: But can you also sell itg into the fan base 253 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: the upside of a prospect. They had to do that 254 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 2: with Shamar Stewart all offseason because his production in college 255 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 2: wasn't there. Are you gonna try to sell a Jermad McCoy? 256 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 2: Are you gonna sell that type of production when when 257 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 2: you need to you have to hit on number ten? 258 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 3: Sure you do it well. 259 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 4: And that's why I don't cancel out offense, Like if 260 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 4: Jeremiah Love is there all those guys we just talked about, 261 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 4: maybe Downs, but outside of that, Love is gonna be 262 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 4: as high as anybody on their board, like it's. 263 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 3: And that's why you can't. 264 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 4: It's not in me to be like no, because what 265 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 4: if Feneman goes eight in Sidiq goes nine and Downs 266 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 4: is long gone and Bailey and Baine and Peter Woods 267 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 4: isn't like that for you? And obviously you got Caleb 268 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 4: Banks injured, and that's not gonna he shouldn't be in 269 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 4: consideration at ten. There's no scenario where Love isn't the 270 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 4: top guy. And so that's what I keep coming back to, 271 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 4: Like I wish that there were a Rock Bowers type 272 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 4: prospect or some of these tight ends we've seen over 273 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 4: the past couple of years. Obviously Colston Loveland, Tyler Warren 274 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 4: last year. There's not that, and there's not those quarterbacks 275 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 4: that are gonna go high early, and so the Bengals 276 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 4: are suffering there because I think some of these guys 277 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 4: are worth it. But if you get to that tier 278 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 4: that you're talking about, obviously everyone's going to say trade down. 279 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 4: But I just if you can't get that trade down, 280 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 4: you got to look at it and Tarry, well, who's 281 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 4: the best guy. And I do think there will be 282 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 4: an awesome player there at ten. And that's what I'm 283 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 4: in the business off, and that's what the Bengals should 284 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 4: be in the business of adding awesome players to their roster. 285 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 3: Obviously, what about about trading. 286 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 4: You can't rule it down, you can't rule it out, 287 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 4: trading up, come on, that's the thing. That's that's the 288 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 4: thing that's hard about this, right, James, because the Bengals 289 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 4: should be in the business of doing these things, but 290 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 4: they're not. And so like the way I look at 291 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 4: it is, Okay, well, what based off of history can 292 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 4: I expect them to do? And now I kind of 293 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 4: expect them to draft a corner because they don't have 294 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 4: questions or they don't have answers for that position next year, 295 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 4: and the the extensions aren't done yet, and they've done 296 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 4: that historically in the first round over and over and 297 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 4: over again. But also you mentioned ear if you could 298 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 4: give al Golden truth serum what he might say. Do 299 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 4: you think, because there's so much pressure on the coaches, 300 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,719 Speaker 4: on Zach Taylor and others to win this year, that 301 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 4: there could be some animosity created between them in the 302 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 4: front office and the personnel department that hey, we're supposed 303 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 4: to win this year and if we don't, we're gonna 304 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 4: lose our jobs and you're not giving us good enough 305 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 4: players to do that. Yeah, I wonder where the animosity 306 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 4: would be. Would it be with ownership or the personnel department. 307 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 4: That's the line that I always struggle with is when 308 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 4: people are critical of Duke and rightfully so, or critical 309 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 4: of the Bengals process. All right, well, yeah, Demetrius Knight 310 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 4: sucked as a pick in the second round, even though 311 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 4: I like him as a person, because there's no way 312 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 4: you take a twenty five year old in round two 313 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 4: at linebacker. But but you can tell I'm letting it go. 314 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 4: Is it because they didn't go out and get Al 315 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 4: Golden's guy in free agency? 316 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 3: And that's why? 317 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 4: Is it because they weren't active enough and so, like, 318 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 4: placing blame is tough. But do I think there would 319 00:14:59,320 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 4: be animosity? 320 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 5: Oh? 321 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, there should be. They should have done more. 322 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 4: Like there has not been one person that has said, James, 323 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 4: you're going too over the top right now with what 324 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 4: you want. And I came into free agency saying I 325 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 4: want three defensive linemen, one linebacker, one safety, all starter level, right, 326 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 4: and they've gotten two defensive linemen one edge. They're lacking 327 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 4: an edge. Obviously, they completely whipped at linebacker and they 328 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 4: got the safety. Like if they had just gotten a 329 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 4: high level linebacker, let's say they get Lloyd. Well, now 330 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 4: I can be in on all right, Well, you didn't 331 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 4: address edge because you spent big at linebacker and big 332 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 4: at safety and you had a two defensive line, but 333 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 4: they just completely whipped in two spots, and so yeah, 334 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 4: I think truth cermwise, of course there would be some animosity. 335 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 4: Why are we structuring deals this way? Why aren't we 336 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 4: being more aggressive? Why aren't we restructuring Joe if we 337 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 4: need to for more space in adding what we need 338 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 4: ahead of the draft? 339 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 3: All right? 340 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 2: So just the simple why why can every other team 341 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 2: in the NFL who needs to go to their starting 342 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 2: quarterback and say, let's real structure. You put it on 343 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 2: the calendar, make a betting game out of it. What 344 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 2: day of the year is Patrick Mahomes going to restructure 345 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: his deal for Kansas City? Joe Burrow's open to it. 346 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 2: Why are the Bengals against it? 347 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 3: Because it's almost like. 348 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 4: The person not to get like too much into finance, 349 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 4: and it's great to pay for like pay cash for everything, 350 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 4: but sometimes if you're going to get a really really 351 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 4: low low lo low interest rate, it's smarter to keep 352 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 4: stay liquid and go that route and take the loan out. 353 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 4: And the Bengals are like so against risking any type 354 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 4: of future. So it's like, well, why would we push 355 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 4: five million dollars of Joe's cap space? Of that cap 356 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 4: space into the future each year over the next multiple years, 357 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 4: and it's like, well, to give yourself more wiggle room 358 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 4: now that can roll over if you don't use it. 359 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 3: So that's one. 360 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 4: The other one would be cash like doing investing more 361 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 4: cash now. And there is that theory with the Bengals 362 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 4: that they are cash poor. I refuse to believe it 363 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 4: because the way they the NFL is I do not 364 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 4: think that they are cash poor at all. 365 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 3: I think they've been frugal. 366 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 4: For the most of their existence and now they're making 367 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 4: more money than ever and have the biggest star that 368 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 4: they've ever had ever. And yeah, so the why is 369 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 4: is it's how they're wired. And I think it's more 370 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 4: of an excuse not a reason. I don't think that 371 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 4: there's a real reason why outside of this is how 372 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 4: they do things, and this is how they're wired, and 373 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 4: it's because they're worried about that point zero zero two 374 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 4: interest rate. That makes sense if you could get a 375 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 4: car for that, and why wouldn't we all finance a 376 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 4: car for that love of and interest rate? You mentioned 377 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 4: the biggest star that they've ever had. If you were 378 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 4: to ask Joe Burrow today what he thinks about what 379 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 4: has happened over the last two weeks. 380 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 3: How do you think he would respond? I think he 381 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 3: would well. 382 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 4: I asked Joe about free agency in January and I 383 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 4: was that point into twenty twenty, twenty one and twenty two, 384 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 4: and he gave the quote of the offseason, and in 385 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 4: the moment, I was like, Yep, this is going to 386 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 4: be the one we keep referring to. Free agency is paramount, 387 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 4: and you need to find your weaknesses and make them 388 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 4: strong and address them. And you're gonna get it wrong sometimes, 389 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 4: Gino Stone Sheldon rankins, you're gonna get it wrong sometimes, 390 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 4: and I'm paraphrasing, but guess. 391 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 3: What you got to keep swinging. 392 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 4: And the crappy part is the Bengals would say, see, 393 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 4: look what we did. We've over one hundred plus million 394 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 4: dollars in contracts on defense. 395 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 3: I get that. 396 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 4: I understand that you also lost valuable pieces and you're 397 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 4: making up for lost time because your defense is stunk 398 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 4: for three years now and so there was just a 399 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 4: lot of holes to fill. And so I don't think 400 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 4: Joe would be satisfied or necessarily happy. I think in 401 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 4: a vacuum he would be like us and like the additions, 402 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 4: he would like that Orlando Brown Junior is locked up 403 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 4: on a reasonable contract, But does he think it's enough. 404 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 4: Does he look at that defense now and say, oh, man, like, 405 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 4: we're going to be hell to deal with? 406 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 3: Probably not. 407 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 4: And that's that's a tough that's overall a tough sell. 408 00:18:58,600 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 4: That doesn't mean he's not gonna go out there and 409 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 4: I think he can win. Of course he thinks that. 410 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 4: But there are levels to it, and they did not 411 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 4: go to the level that I wanted. I'm sure Joe 412 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 4: wanted at least as much. And that standard is as 413 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 4: high as mind. 414 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 2: If that is the standard, And again, it's one thing. 415 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 2: If we talk about this on a week to week 416 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 2: and month to month basis, it's another thing. And again 417 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 2: I go back to your point in January, paramount importance 418 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 2: for the team to handle the offseason. How much do 419 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 2: you concern yourself if the Bengals don't address this any further, 420 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 2: and let's say they struggle next year, how much does 421 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 2: the Joe Burrow and Cincinnati thing become more of a 422 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 2: talking point that everyone nationally already wants to make it. 423 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it'll become a real thing if they 424 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 4: don't win and that's the tough part. I wanted the 425 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 4: Bengals to give Joe no excuses for lack of a 426 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 4: better term, no excuses. Hey, look at this defense. We 427 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 4: filled all of our holes. We added all this talent 428 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 4: and the draft after filling our needs. And in that 429 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 4: where like if the tenth pick is open and you 430 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 4: take Caleb Downs and you've already filled all your needs, 431 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 4: well that's great because now it was just your starting 432 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 4: nickel and you can move around and be this weapon 433 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 4: for you and you have the best safety room in 434 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 4: the league. Like there's just a lot of fun ways 435 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 4: you could deploy him. And then if it's Jeremiah Love, 436 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 4: it's like, hey, Joe, look at this toy that you've 437 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 4: never had a guy like that. And in Bain Bailey, 438 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 4: all these guys fall under the same talent umbrella, and 439 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 4: so they're gonna have to win. 440 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 3: And that's what it comes down to. 441 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 4: And I think the coaches, going back to the animosity part, 442 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 4: at some point they do flip the page and say, 443 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,479 Speaker 4: all right, it's just time to go win. The problem 444 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 4: is is we've seen it year after year now where 445 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 4: they just haven't had enough talent to go within like 446 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 4: even if you do think that they're met coaches or 447 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 4: bad coaches. There's clearly been a talent issue. And it's 448 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 4: not like they didn't lose talent like Trey Hendricks. They 449 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 4: lost Trey Hendrickson. There are people that just gloss over it. 450 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 4: They lost Trey hendricks in this offseason, they lost Joseph 451 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 4: Osai and so far they brought in one edge. 452 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 3: And so that's that's a tough sell. And so yeah, 453 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 3: I think that's the key. 454 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 4: The key is winning, giving Joe enough to win if 455 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 4: he misses a month, giving hopefully Joe Flacco enough to win, 456 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 4: and giving them enough talent and building a roster that 457 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 4: is sustainable over the life of a full season. In 458 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,719 Speaker 4: so far to this point, while they've done some good things, 459 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 4: I don't think they've they've done enough to say that 460 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 4: that's the case. 461 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 2: Before we let you go, James, who do you like 462 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: winning the whole thing? 463 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 3: Who's winning? March Madnus? Well you I'm gonna just tie 464 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 3: this in. Uh. 465 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 4: There's one big Bengals fan who I'm sure reads Bengals 466 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 4: Talk dot com and watches Cincinnati Bengals Talk on YouTube 467 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 4: and obviously listens to to locked on Bengals and it's 468 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 4: Dan Hurley, and I'm sure Dan Hurley would love to 469 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 4: hear that. 470 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 3: I'm all in. 471 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 4: I hope you can just rolls rolls baby, So that 472 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 4: that's where I'm at. 473 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 2: Dan Hurley officially off the board for the UC coach search. 474 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 4: No, I've actually at the pot form. There's a chance 475 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 4: I put it like that. I think he likes the 476 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 4: logo I have on my hat. I think there's a 477 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 4: small chance here. 478 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 2: Okay, what's uh, what's the easiest way. It's obviously still 479 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 2: a lot of off season ago, a lot of draft coverage 480 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 2: coming up. What's the easiest way folks can follow along 481 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 2: with everything you got going on? 482 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 4: The one thing to land in Hurley, you're gonna have 483 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 4: to get that pocketbook ready for your the nil part 484 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 4: of it. Oh, all that NFL money might have to 485 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 4: go to n I L NFL to n I L. Well, 486 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 4: you've got all that money off the naming rights, so yeah, 487 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 4: it's all gone. I had to pay for this show's name. Yeah, man, 488 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 4: whoever you paid to name it, if you need your 489 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 4: money back. 490 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 3: I had a search company that put together the research. Yeah, 491 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 3: I'm sure. 492 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 4: Anyways, you can check it out Bengals Talk dot Com. 493 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 4: That's not Tony Pikes Bengals Talk dot Com. Bengals talking 494 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 4: the right price in Cincinnati, Bengals talk on YouTube for 495 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 4: the right price. 496 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 3: Yeah for me, you have to pay me, all right, 497 00:22:54,560 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 3: let's talk. James, have a good one. Thank you, James. 498 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 4: Man, Tony, I'm sorry I have to be the one 499 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 4: that delivers the blows to you, my friend. 500 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 2: It's fine, I appreciate, it's fine. I'll accept it. See 501 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: you only hit me in the knee. James Rapene All over. 502 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 2: The Bengals coverage. 503 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 3: Got a giant looking our Number. 504 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 2: Three continues on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Better 505 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 2: welcome back since he three sixties. ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati 506 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 2: Sports Station. How about this Austin Tomorrow, we'll make it 507 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 2: one week away from Red's opening Day's right. We are there, man, 508 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 2: we're there. And today we've received a little more clarification 509 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 2: on what that day will look like. Obviously that day 510 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 2: for us Austin will start at Smoke Justice, just a 511 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: block in a bridge from the ballpark for this show, 512 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 2: as we'll be joined by Moegger and then we'll make 513 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 2: the walk block in a bridge to the ballpark. 514 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 4: We know now we've run into some important people on 515 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 4: that it's been that way back that bridge, and I 516 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 4: believe one year there was a like a Rigshaw ride. 517 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 4: There was something going on taking We narrowly avoided a 518 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 4: fight with a goose one year. Yes, we ran into 519 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 4: Jack Collinsworth one time. And the way back from the 520 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 4: ballpark or back from back to the ballpark. 521 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 3: So it's fun. You never know what's gonna happen. Star 522 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 3: studded day. 523 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 2: And how about this the grand marshal of the one 524 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 2: hundred and seventh Finley Market Opening Day parade, the cowboy 525 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 2: Jeff Brantley. 526 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 4: Fired up for Jeff Brantley to be able to do this, 527 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 4: and he was the name name the twenty twenty five 528 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 4: Ohio sportscaster of the Year. He deserves every bit of it. 529 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 4: You said today, the cowboy, that parade will be head 530 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 4: and where well, not only do they have the you 531 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 4: know the normal route, which of course is right down Broadway. 532 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 4: I think that's not that's not a good cowboy impression. 533 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 4: Cowboy probably insulting to him. But yeah, this is going 534 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 4: to be the one hundred and fiftieth opening Day in Cincinnati, unreal. 535 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 4: Gates will open to the ballpark at two ten pm. 536 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 4: Pregame ceremonies start at three point thirty pm, so just 537 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 4: in time for you to literally leave us at Smoke 538 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 4: Justice walk with us over into the ballpark. But there's 539 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 4: gonna be the big block party starting at eleven am. 540 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 4: The naked karate girls and our guy DJ Train gonna 541 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 4: be there as well. That's obviously benefiting the Reds Community Fund. 542 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 4: Got the grand Marshal of the parade. Just throw out 543 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 4: the first pitch. The first pitch is going to be 544 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 4: thrown by Reds and Red Sox legend Bronson Arroyo. Wow, 545 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 4: Red's Hall of Famer. He's gonna be the first overall pitch. 546 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 4: How about this the flyover? Oh, it is gonna take 547 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 4: place with three AH sixty four Apache helicopters and one 548 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 4: AGE sixty Blackhawk helicopter from the First Battalion, one hundred 549 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 4: and first Aviation Regiment called No Mercy. 550 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 2: You want to Fort Campbell, Kentucky. You want to talk 551 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 2: about a winner. You want to talk about someone that 552 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 2: represents the Red, the White, and the Blue. 553 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 4: How about Connor Current is going to deliver the official 554 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 4: game ball. Connor Kurran was here the other day. Yeah, 555 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 4: I was. 556 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 3: I had no idea. 557 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 2: I was off and John John was like, hey, he's 558 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 2: here early, do you want to interview him? 559 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 3: Oh? 560 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 2: It was a day we were and we were on 561 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 2: Kentucky was playing, so we can't get him. But Connor 562 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 2: is a Cincinnati native, twenty twenty six winner, Olympic Golden Medalist, 563 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 2: and then of course the honorary Captain Davey conception on. 564 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 3: Now he's from Venezuela. 565 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 4: I wonder if Kenny has anything to say about that 566 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 4: great question anyways. Uh, yeah, So that's awesome day that's 567 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 4: gonna happen. And then the game starts obviously at four 568 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 4: to ten. It'll be Garrett Crochet and Andrew Abbott going 569 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 4: up against it, and of course seven hundred WLW and 570 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 4: the Reds Radio Network. We'll have Tommy Thrall and Jeff 571 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 4: Brantley on the call for opening day. 572 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 2: Let's take a quick break, let's come back in one 573 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 2: of our favorite traditions around the masters. Yeah, it's figuring 574 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 2: out what they're going to serve for the pre master's meal. 575 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 3: Whatever. I need to just kind of settle the heart rate. 576 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 3: This is it right here? A little bit. I imagine 577 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 3: a drive down Magnolia Lane. 578 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 2: Let us tell you what Rory McElroy's got in store 579 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 2: for everyone. Next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 580 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 3: The twenty twenty six Cincinnati Rags. He Bear God This 581 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 3: esp and. 582 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 6: Fifteen to thirty player profile Good Bar presented by rookie 583 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 6: Wisht in Recycling Don Wright. Also brought to you by 584 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 6: Dunnado's Pizza and Riverside Electric Bar. 585 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 3: Now with the name you need to know, Here's Moegger. 586 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 5: If the Reds are gonna have a more potent offense 587 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 5: than they did last season. 588 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 3: A rookie could be a major reason why. 589 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 5: Sal Stewart joined the Reds late last season, and he 590 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 5: instantly showed some pop, clubbing five homers in just fifty 591 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 5: five at bats. Add that to the twenty Stewart hit 592 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 5: in the minor leagues before his call up, and it's 593 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 5: easy to see why there's so much excitement around the 594 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 5: twenty two year old. His position is It's likely to 595 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 5: be first base, but he'll probably also spend some time 596 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 5: at third, and he has some experience playing second base. 597 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 5: Two and despite his cup of coffee with the Reds 598 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 5: last season, he still considered a rookie. I'm worth mentioning 599 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 5: as a possible Rookie of the Year. Canadate me rookie 600 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 5: first Baseman salth Stewart. 601 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 6: For more player profiles, cheap it here on ESPN fifteen thirty. 602 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 3: Are you experiencing on oneed Achs and pain? 603 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 2: Welcome back side three to sixty, ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati 604 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 2: Sports Station. Just a moment here before we get to moegar. 605 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 2: What is Rory McElroy serving up at his Master's dinner 606 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 2: this year? 607 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 4: You know, we're just a couple of weeks away from 608 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 4: the Masters and the Masters Club dinner. A Champion's Dinner 609 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 4: will happen on April seventh, twenty twenty six, at Augusta 610 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 4: National Golf Club. Here's what mister Rory McElroy will be 611 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 4: serving up. Let's start with the appetizers. Oh, peach and 612 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 4: ricotta flatbread probably out on that baside, hot honey and basil, 613 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 4: rock shrimp tempura with a creamy spicy sauce, grilled elk 614 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 4: sliders with caramelized onion ic and elk mel and roasted garlic, 615 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 4: aoli and bacon wrapped dates. 616 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 3: With goat cheese, and almonds. 617 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 4: Nope, I'll be honest, every single one of those sounds 618 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 4: freaking fantastic. Touch one of them with a ten foot 619 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 4: They look and sound delicious. How about the first course 620 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 4: a yellow fin tuna carpaccio with a toasted baguette and shives. 621 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 3: Sounds delicious? What's keeping me out of the masters? And 622 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 3: then the main course your choice of a wago filet mignon. 623 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 3: Now we're talking rollers. 624 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 4: Seared salmon, traditional Irish champ sauteed brushels sprouts sounds delicious, 625 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 4: Glazed carrots with brown butter, come on, speak to me. 626 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 4: And a crispy vedalia onion rings. That all sounds wonderful 627 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 4: and poor dessert tom at Augusta National Golf Club. 628 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 3: How about a sticky toffee pudding? Now, I love toffee pudding. 629 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 3: We never had the sticky kind of. 630 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 4: Vanilla ice cream and warm toffee sauce, and several champagnes 631 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 4: Burgundy wines. 632 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 3: Let's see a nineteen eighty nine chateau. Yeah, a chateau 633 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 3: from nineteen eighty nine in there a list, and this, 634 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 3: of course all served in honor of Masters champion or 635 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 3: mister Roy maccar. Very good now, I look forward. 636 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 2: We can't promise you the same dinner, but we do 637 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 2: have something here for you on ESPN fifteen to thirty 638 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 2: dot com. 639 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 3: That's correct, it's your. 640 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 2: Chance to win a VIP table for four to watch 641 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 2: the championship game of the upcoming tournament at Twin Peaks. 642 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 3: There's a tournament coming up. Yep, it's a basketball one. 643 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 2: The winner also is going to get a two hundred 644 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 2: dollars gift card for food and drinks to use during 645 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 2: that VIP experience. Woes Ben fifteen to thirty dot com 646 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 2: on our Twin Peaks hot Wings, side of fries and 647 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 2: a lot of beer cups Ranch and a whole lot 648 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 2: of cold beer. Create your own Masters Dwin Peaks by 649 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 2: entering at ESPN fifteen to thirty dot com US for that, 650 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 2: we'll take a break. We'll talk to Mo next. On 651 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 652 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: Now it's time for quick hits on Tony Pikes. Since 653 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: the three. 654 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 2: Sixty Loaga looking like Traymond Mark at the gun last week, 655 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 2: stepping in right as we come back for quick Hits 656 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Now, Mo has 657 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 2: his show this afternoon and then Moe's NCAA Tournament spectacular 658 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 2: whatever you do call it, from ten to noon tomorrow. 659 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 2: What an opportunity for folks to come down, get set 660 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 2: for the tournament, and win a really nice prize and then. 661 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 3: Just post up. You know we have it's we start 662 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 3: at ten am. 663 00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,719 Speaker 5: The doors open at nine to forty five, but it's 664 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 5: orton that you get there early because there's only six 665 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 5: starting tomorrow. You're only sixty four teams, and we'll give 666 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 5: you a team if you're among the first sixty four, 667 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 5: a team at random. If your team wins the whole thing, 668 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 5: you win a Bertram Golf get away. We can't golf 669 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 5: get away. Also to celebrate the Holy Grails fifteenth anniversary, 670 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 5: rollback pricing no way, five beers, fifteen bucks like that? 671 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 3: Now? Can you beat it? You don't want to put 672 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 3: the cart before the horse. You don't. What do you 673 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 3: got on today's show? 674 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 5: Well, we have on the show today we're going to 675 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 5: talk about the Miami Radhawks taking center stage tonight. We're 676 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 5: going to talk about Tito and DT's or DJ, sorry, 677 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 5: Tito and DJ's plan to have six starting pitchers in 678 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 5: a five man rotation. Magnificent which I love. I like 679 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 5: this idea. They're thinking outside the box. We're also are 680 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 5: the Bengals just trying to prove that they're not cheap? 681 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 5: We're going to ask that question. We're going to talk 682 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 5: with Vincent Dytouche. Oh call me Vincent Dytouche. He's with Apple, TV, 683 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 5: FC Cincinnati and montre All. We're gonna talk about how 684 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 5: the contract negotiations between Wes Miller and UC might be 685 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 5: playing out with our legal expert Stuart W. Penrose from 686 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 5: the Manila Log Group, and so much more. You mentioned 687 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 5: the game last night, First Team all names today it 688 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 5: is can I mention my favorite part of the game 689 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 5: last night? Sure, Dick Vital and Charles Barkley are doing 690 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 5: the game, and they had to do a little bit 691 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 5: more heavy lifting than he might ordinarily expect because Brian 692 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 5: Anderson had you can tell you it a cold and 693 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 5: vocal issues. So at some point during the game, dig 694 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 5: Vie Tal says to Charles Barkley, were you a top 695 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 5: one hundred NBA player? 696 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 3: Now? 697 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 5: I don't know if he was joking. I fear he wasn't. 698 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 5: What's interesting is I made reference to this on social 699 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,719 Speaker 5: media and there were people who I believe considered themselves 700 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 5: basketball fans who are like not top one hundred. 701 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 3: Boy, do you know good Charles Barkley? I mean, I 702 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 3: get it. 703 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 5: He hasn't played and retired in two thousand. He's now 704 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 5: more known for TV persona. But really top one hundred 705 00:33:59,040 --> 00:33:59,959 Speaker 5: NBA players of all time? 706 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 4: Really? 707 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? 708 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 5: So that frustrated me. But can I tell you about 709 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 5: something that happened to me today please. I mentioned to 710 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 5: you guys on Monday getting some car repairs. Yes, right, 711 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 5: And so I took my car to Donovan Tire in 712 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 5: Auto on Monday, plug for them because I love Dale Donovan. 713 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 5: They didn't have the part that they needed to fix 714 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 5: my car issue, so I had to take it back 715 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 5: today just up here in Blue Ash that's six minutes 716 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 5: from the radio station. So I drop it off, sure, 717 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 5: and the folks said Donovan Tire then drive me to work. 718 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 5: Then they text me and say, hey, your car is ready, 719 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,479 Speaker 5: and I called just to go, Hey, I'll be there, 720 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 5: like I'm good to go, and they go, yeah, the 721 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 5: guy who's driving people around is out and about it 722 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 5: might be a while, and I said, cool, no problem. Sure, 723 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 5: So I got a lift. Wow, right, go on the 724 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 5: app get a lift. Guy picks me up here at 725 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 5: the radio station. Yeah, and he says, as we're pulling out, 726 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 5: he goes, what's in that building? And I said, oh, 727 00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 5: there's like forty fifty businesses, medical offices, banks, financial places, 728 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 5: and there's eight radio stations. And so he's he's pulling away, 729 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 5: we're driving on our way to dotiv entire and he goes, well, 730 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 5: where do you work? And I go, I work for 731 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 5: one of the radio stations. Sure, he goes which one? 732 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 5: I said, w c KY, ESPN fifteen thirty, goes, Oh, 733 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 5: I listen to Mike and Mike every day. And I 734 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,479 Speaker 5: didn't have the heart to tell him, no, you don't 735 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 5: because that show hasn't been on. I mean, I just 736 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 5: I did not have the heart to sit in the 737 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 5: back of this guy's car and tell this man that 738 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 5: show went off the air like nine years ago. I 739 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 5: think he's listening right now, probably getting ready to find 740 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 5: out what's on Mike and Mike tomorrow. 741 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, So anyway, shout out to my left drive in. 742 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 3: It's like I hear Dan Patrick tell stories all the time. 743 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 4: If people say, hey, I love you on Sports Center, 744 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,399 Speaker 4: I have it's been a while. 745 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 5: I have a distant relative who when I first started 746 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 5: working at the radio station, like one of these guys 747 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 5: that whenever we were together, we weren't around each other 748 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 5: enough to really have a meaningful dialogue, so he would 749 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 5: just say stuff like her Jonal with Burbank. Yeah, And 750 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 5: he would say this for years, and I would go, literally, 751 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 5: was never on that show man like her jon with Burbank. No, 752 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 5: you didn't, you did not. Yeah, why don't you just 753 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 5: talk about the weather. That's why the weather exists, for 754 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 5: us to have something to talk about when there's nothing else. 755 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 5: Or Johnny Galer Burbank like, I promise you nothing against 756 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 5: Gary God rest his soul. 757 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 3: You did not hear me el At Burbank didn't happen 758 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 3: listening to Mike and Mike every morning, that's awesome. 759 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 2: Is there pressure on Miami to win tonight because they 760 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 2: have this unbelievable regular season, but they lose in the 761 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 2: first round of the MAC Tournament. Now you're in the Dance, 762 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 2: you're essentially playing a home game against SMU. Is there 763 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 2: pressure on them to at least get one win here? 764 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 5: Some Yeah, I mean I don't think it invalidates what 765 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 5: they've done. They're MAC champions. They had a great year, 766 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 5: but you and I both know there are people waiting 767 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 5: to pounce if they lose that will claim they don't 768 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 5: belong to Well. 769 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of people don't validate that 770 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 2: two thousand and nine Big East champion. I do because 771 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:02,879 Speaker 2: of what happened in the Sugar Bowl. 772 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 5: I've tried to erase from my memory what happened in 773 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 5: the Sugar Meto and I did a very good job 774 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 5: the night of the Sugar Bowl. 775 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:12,280 Speaker 3: Doing that perfect. You know, Yeah, I think there's pressure 776 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 3: on them. 777 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 5: I think there's less pressure because they did lose a 778 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 5: game last week, and you know, I think Travis Steele 779 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 5: would be the first to admit, you don't want to 780 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,919 Speaker 5: lose a game. And if they didn't lose that game 781 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 5: on Friday, chances are they're not playing in Dayton. But yeah, 782 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 5: I mean, you've been the talk of college basketball all season. 783 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 5: I think to validate your inclusion in the tournament when 784 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,320 Speaker 5: there are some who believe you didn't belong in the field. 785 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 5: If you win tonight, I think folks are going to 786 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 5: get off your back a little bit. Yeah, especially because 787 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,439 Speaker 5: they're playing less than two hours from. 788 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,280 Speaker 2: It might be easy for them to win than Louisville 789 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 2: Without Mikel Brown Junior us SF, I feel like was 790 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 2: already a trendy upset pick. It's gonna be tough for 791 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 2: Pat Kelsey to win that one. 792 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,359 Speaker 5: It is, So I will talk about my bracket. Oh, 793 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 5: which I've entered in your pool that has no prize? 794 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,399 Speaker 3: Yes? And what about our office? We have you entered 795 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,280 Speaker 3: that one I have? Did you see what our boss 796 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 3: Boston would get an off day? Yeah? Taking this one 797 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 3: a little more serious Noway, I'd rather have that than 798 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 3: the cash. 799 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 5: So, so the way I picked my bracket is I 800 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 5: don't I obviously mostly pick teams that I think will 801 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 5: win each game, but I look for spots to fade 802 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 5: the rest of the field. Sure, with MIKEL. Brown, I 803 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 5: have Louisville in the Elite eight. Okay, without him, I 804 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 5: still believe they'll beat USF. But like in that like quadrant, 805 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 5: UCLA can get to the Elite eight, U CELA can. 806 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,760 Speaker 3: Lose to UCF. East is incredible. The East is insane. 807 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 5: Yukon is the worst team in the field against the spread, 808 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 5: so they play in games that are closer than they 809 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 5: should be. 810 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's still a Yukon right, former potential bear Louisville. 811 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. I just gotta see Ifield say no Louisville. 812 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,839 Speaker 5: I thought was interesting because MIKEL Brown's a lottery pick, right, 813 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 5: But to drop off from that team with him to 814 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 5: without him, it would be unsurprising if USF won and 815 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 5: then got to the sweet sixteen, which you can get 816 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 5: at plus eight hundred. 817 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:57,959 Speaker 3: How about that? Yes? 818 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 2: Now, do you fill out your bracket from the beginning 819 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 2: to feel to the end or do you put your 820 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,399 Speaker 2: champion and then work back? 821 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 3: I know people who do that. Yeah, I don't. 822 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 2: And you feel you like to write the bracket, Yeah, yeah, 823 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 2: it's the most. 824 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 3: Way to do it. 825 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 5: My daughter and I are sitting down tonight nice and 826 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 5: I think she's wondering, like, isn't there an online way 827 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 5: to do this? 828 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 3: And it's like, kiddo, we do. We believe in a 829 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 3: few things in this house. One of them is you 830 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 3: write out your bracket. Pan. 831 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,439 Speaker 2: Now, when you are filling this out with Crosley, will 832 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 2: you help in any way? 833 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 3: Will you nudge her? 834 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 2: Like when I feel I filled one out with with 835 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 2: Wilder and Wesley yesterday I went ahead and just punched 836 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,359 Speaker 2: the one seeds in everything else they can pick. Now, 837 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 2: do you give her free rein? No, you help our 838 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 2: line there. It's like our homework. I am there to 839 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 2: answer questions. Okay, you are doing the work. 840 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 3: Nice. 841 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 5: So she asks a question, I'm there to provide some 842 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 5: some guidance, by the way, in a pool that we're 843 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 5: in with our friends. 844 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 3: She came in third last year. Nice. 845 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, but I believe in it's just like doing homework. 846 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 5: I will not do the work for you. I will 847 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 5: not give you the answers. But if you ask a 848 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 5: good question and I'll give you, I'll tell you something. So, uh, 849 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 5: we're doing that tonight. We talked about it this morning. Nice, 850 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,320 Speaker 5: gotta have it in by noon, and you got to 851 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 5: come up with your ten bucks. 852 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 3: Okay. 853 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 5: She looked at me like, who whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa 854 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 5: whoa whoa Wait wait, hold. 855 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 2: On, did did you get the sense at all last 856 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 2: night of watching so many Reds games from last year, 857 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 2: the USA striking out a ton so closer walks the 858 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 2: lead off batter. 859 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 5: I don't know how closely you guys watched that with 860 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 5: like the announcers and stuff. But John Smolts and Joe 861 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 5: Davis were like flummixed as to how the US wasn't 862 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 5: scoring runs. Yeah, and I'm like, are you are you 863 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 5: watching the pitching? 864 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 3: Do you know? 865 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 5: This marks what good pitching beats good hitting? Really cool 866 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,320 Speaker 5: for Suarez, Awesome for him, thrilled for him. That event, 867 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 5: which I will admit when it first was hatched, whenever 868 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 5: it was twenty seven, I didn't really buy into. 869 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,439 Speaker 3: I love that event. Well, the players have bought in. Yeah, 870 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,240 Speaker 3: and it means something to them. 871 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 5: And it makes you feel like if they could find 872 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 5: a way to put big leaguers in the Olympics, how 873 00:40:59,080 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 5: cool that could be. 874 00:40:59,719 --> 00:40:59,919 Speaker 3: Yeah. 875 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 5: Of course they might be able to do that in 876 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 5: two years, because I don't know when the most baseball 877 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 5: season is going to be after this one. 878 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 3: Well, Mowger is Mike coming up tomorrow morning? Yeah? 879 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,240 Speaker 2: And uh, you are playing the best of you with Burbank? 880 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, four to five today, John Burbank. Oh Man, 881 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 2: we're time. We won't see it until next week. Eg Man, 882 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 2: Kentucky basketball Friday, so we're not in and you're down 883 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 2: at the grail tomorrow. 884 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 3: We'll see you next week. Yeah, the first day the 885 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 3: I think I'm producing your show Tomorrow. 886 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 5: Calendar comes out. I take those two days off smart, Smart, 887 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 5: Well done. Mowager is to have a third. If you're 888 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 5: in the challenge, have a. 889 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 2: Great Thursday on the ESPN fifteenth third. Well have a 890 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 2: great Wednesday on ESPN fifteen thirty. 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