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Speaker 1: Mark Offin says that Mike Tomlin would rather be right

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Speaker 1: than win. Well, last night, Tomlin was proven right about

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Speaker 1: Joe Flacco, and he's sure as hell didn't win. In fact,

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Speaker 1: as the hours get further and further away from that

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Speaker 1: ironically all at the same time and hurting his team's

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Speaker 1: And if you bet on the Steelers last night, you

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Speaker 2: And I think you're pretty light.

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Speaker 1: In the head, because if you couldn't see at the

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Speaker 1: very least a ball breaking, headbanging, hand ringing, tooth gnashing victory,

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Speaker 1: if you couldn't forecast at least that probably happening for

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Speaker 1: the Steelers in Cincinnati, then you just haven't been paying attention.

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Speaker 1: To how the Steelers operate within the division, on the road,

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Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football, or basically at all in the entire

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Speaker 1: Tomlin era. As soon as it starts to look really

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Speaker 1: really good, you start to feel really really bad. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you can feel good about what

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Speaker 1: you saw last night, not just for one night, but

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Speaker 1: for moving forward as well.

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Speaker 2: Tommy Radio joins me.

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Speaker 1: Right now, tom let's just get right into it, because,

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Speaker 1: as I talked about with Mike Decorsi on my Friday

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Speaker 2: I wrote about it there too.

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Speaker 1: I feel like this whole Mike Tomlin obsession with Joe

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Speaker 1: Flacco that coalesced with his comments about Andrew Berry during

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Speaker 1: his Monday press conference this week. The way that that

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Speaker 1: defense played last night, it's almost like Tomlin's discussion about

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Speaker 1: Flacco manifested the defensive result that we saw, or, if

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Speaker 1: you want to look at it a different way, the

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Speaker 1: defense's inability to string together three good games manifested what

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Speaker 1: Tomlin was worried about into being right. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how else to look at it. I'm just so obsessed

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Speaker 1: on that one point. It's like Tomlin spoke Thursday Night's

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Speaker 1: reality Tomlin spoke Thursday Night's result into happening on Monday.

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Speaker 2: Am I wrong about that? No, You're absolutely right.

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Speaker 3: It's honestly hilarious that it played out this way, that

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Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin showed his hand a little bit, a little

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Speaker 3: bit of fear when it comes to Joe Flacco being

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Speaker 3: the quarterback, and then Flacco went out and delivered what

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Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin feared. And I don't I haven't seen the

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Speaker 3: exact number yet, but it felt to me like they

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Speaker 3: were blitzing a little bit less right.

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Speaker 2: It felt to me like they.

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Speaker 3: Were kind of going into more of a conservative They're

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Speaker 3: gonna get the ball out quick, so let's emphasize coverage

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Speaker 3: as opposed to pressure. Just picked them apart. That's kind

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Speaker 3: of the same thing that happened in the Colts game

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Speaker 3: last year with Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you're gonna do that, then why have Nick

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Speaker 1: Herbig only played thirty eight percent of the snap? So

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Speaker 1: unless we're going to find out that he's hurt, which

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Speaker 1: we can't rule that out with his history, but.

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Speaker 2: That's my point.

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Speaker 3: It's like, why did you get away from that chaotic

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Speaker 3: pass rush that has really been allowing your defense to

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Speaker 3: play elite because of that. It all starts there. And

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Speaker 3: again I'm not an idiot. I know Flaco was getting

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Speaker 3: It was like two point four to four seconds. I

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Speaker 3: I mean, you can still get to a quarterback in

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Speaker 1: Well, then your grand experiment in the secondary has failed

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Speaker 1: because that this game is why it was put together,

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Speaker 3: And do you think they were leaning on that a

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Speaker 3: can emphasize help in coverage and Flacco will just be

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Speaker 3: into the game thinking. And I see people really complaining

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Speaker 3: It was just the players out there getting cooked. But

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Speaker 3: halftime to more of a let's send six or seven

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Speaker 3: It's a little tenuous with how good Chase was in

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Speaker 3: that first half, but we got to get Flacco off

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Speaker 3: the spot. I mean, he's just one two step and

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Speaker 3: hits easy throws for him.

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Speaker 1: As Rogers is proving behind the Steelers offensive line. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, the best tackle of the night was

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Speaker 1: Broderick Jones on Aaron Rodgers was celebrating going to the sideline.

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Speaker 1: At least Broderick Jones made his impact. Note, Well, he

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Speaker 1: interception picks. But what Rogers has proven is that you

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Speaker 2: I've gone through the numbers with you.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many times where they're twenty ninth,

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Speaker 2: So he's proven that.

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Speaker 1: But there's a big difference between I can be accurate,

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Speaker 1: how I want to hit my guy when like you're saying,

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Speaker 1: And maybe it's not accurate, maybe it does go over

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Speaker 2: If a quarterback sees.

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Speaker 1: So yes, I agree with you, But like I can't

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Speaker 1: kind of like a delayed blitz that the Steelers were

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Speaker 2: He comes in, he blitzes.

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Speaker 1: And then Queen sort of runs this delay blitz behind it,

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Speaker 2: Not necessary. Against Joe, it was.

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Speaker 1: Almost like, Okay, he was gonna read wherever they picked

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Speaker 3: I like that against the quarterbacks. He got rid of

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Speaker 3: the quarterback, like three seconds holding onto the ball, Dylan Gabriel,

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Speaker 3: he's looking at it through his progressions. Yeah, exactly. That's

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Speaker 3: not gonna work against Joe Flacco. He's one read to read.

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Speaker 3: I gotta get rid of this thing. And that's all

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Speaker 3: he was thinking about in that game. And every time

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Speaker 3: it was usually just one read and I'm gonna throw

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Speaker 3: it to that one read Jamar Chase, whether he's open

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Speaker 3: He was just Chase Chase, Chase Chase every single time.

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Speaker 3: And how many times do you think he really was open.

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Speaker 2: On those twenty three targets? Probably like half of them. No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: I think he was open more than that.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, see, I bet she was probably open thirty

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Speaker 1: or thirty five times. But T was open more on

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Speaker 3: The Joey Porter Junior. Your thing with t Higgins just

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Speaker 3: does not work. Last year he got like eighteen defensive

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Speaker 3: pass interferences. He got a couple more in this game.

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Speaker 3: I like that size matchup, it just does not work.

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Speaker 1: One thing I worried about going into this game and

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Speaker 1: it was proven true, was it does look like Jalen

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Speaker 1: Ramsey is a great piece to have on the defense.

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Speaker 1: He is great at blitzing and creating chaos. He can

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Speaker 1: You know, like, you don't know what you're looking at

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Speaker 2: At this point in his career, there was he saw

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Speaker 3: There was a time when he was really elite at that,

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Speaker 1: Which is being a flat out coverage guy, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: take you away, and doesn't exist, not anymore. And we

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Speaker 1: saw that come to fruition last night, because I think

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Speaker 1: him battle with Chase and then throw coverage elsewhere. But

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Speaker 1: even when they try to do that, and they actually

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Speaker 1: another shot that they showed from behind Flacco and This

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Speaker 1: he was sitting on the desk on the Amazon Prime video.

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Speaker 1: Uh recap with the eight million people that.

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Speaker 2: They have every day?

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Speaker 1: Was it Whitworth, Gonzales, Richard and Ryan Fitzpatrick?

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Speaker 2: Correct? Did fits take a shirt off? He likes to

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Speaker 2: do that.

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Speaker 1: I didn't notice him to take a shirt off, But

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Speaker 1: I'm older than Fitzpatrick. He actually might be Flacco maybe

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Speaker 1: over the least right there with him neck and neck. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's not the first person I'd pick on that desk

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Speaker 2: Witworth, is what you're saying, obviously, of course.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But they were drawing up this play and you

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Speaker 1: remember it. We went for thirty seven yards where there

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Speaker 1: were these complaints already within like ten minutes after the

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Speaker 1: cover Jalen excuse me, Jamar Chase, when did you really

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Speaker 1: cover Chase with two people? And when did you really

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Speaker 1: Because he insisted he did that. Well, they found it

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Speaker 3: I loved the Flacco quote from his postgame presser at

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Speaker 1: Like every time we didn't know what the hell we

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Speaker 1: And the Steelers are paralyzed by it all the time.

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Speaker 3: Like all every time there's the slightest curveball thrown at them, it's.

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Speaker 2: Like, what do we do?

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Speaker 1: What do we do? What do we do?

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Speaker 1: It's buffering, buffering, buffering, and they freeze? All right, So

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Speaker 1: the collective of the tight ends came through last night.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he or as Brian Metzer pointed out to

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Speaker 2: Until the next time they will sit it.

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Speaker 3: It comes to town in a few weeks, yes, correct,

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Speaker 3: whatever that is, I forget when that's a month from now,

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Speaker 3: about a month, okay, exactly, So Pat, just take a

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Speaker 2: Then. I mean like the collective of the tight ends

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Speaker 3: And they treated Pat like a like a wide receiver too.

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Speaker 3: He had six targets better they were downfield targets.

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Speaker 2: They have to be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And now the stats are a little bit skewed

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Speaker 3: you can't just take that away from him.

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Speaker 2: It happened.

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Speaker 3: It was a great play from Rodgers and from Friarmouth.

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Speaker 3: Last year they got in the shootout with Cincinnati and

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Speaker 3: and it's like, Wow, where did this offense come from?

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Speaker 3: Let's roll with that moving forward. Everybody thought that, except

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Speaker 3: for the Steelers' coaching staff. He was like, WHOA, wait

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Speaker 3: a minute, Let's not just go crazy and play offense

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Speaker 2: That's not what we do here in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you just saw Pat Farriarmouth this year be

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Speaker 3: Everybody's probably thinking, well, let's just carry that over into

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Speaker 3: you said, though I'll be like, whoa, I mean, that's

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Speaker 3: just matchup specific again, since Green Bay is not a

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Speaker 2: Come on, guys, don't be stupid out there.

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Speaker 1: I want to come back and talk about one specific

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Speaker 2: When we return.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about the offense in general, because

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Speaker 1: clearly this is a day where the defense is going

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Speaker 1: to be berated, and they should. But I don't want

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Speaker 1: to leave the offense off the hook entirely. We'll expand

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Speaker 1: We finished the last segment talking about the Steelers offense

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Speaker 1: a little bit and Pat Fryarmuth specifically, can I nip

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Speaker 1: one thing in the bud? Here? On Pat Fryarmuth and

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Speaker 1: the conversation from yesterday's game?

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Speaker 2: Do you know where I'm going with this?

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Speaker 1: Pat Fryarmuth should not have gone down and taken a

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Speaker 2: It's the dumbest narrative.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot of dumb narratives actually floating around

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Speaker 1: Might be the worst of them. You've seen it too, right,

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Speaker 3: You've brought it to my attention, I think, but once

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Speaker 3: you do some digging, yeah, people, because I think it's

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Speaker 3: how effusive in praise they were over t Higgins on

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Speaker 3: the broadcast for doing that, and they should have been

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Speaker 3: because it was such a heady play that Steelers fans were.

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Speaker 2: Like, wow, I was an our player as smart as

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Speaker 1: But because he needed seven points not three, exact it's

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Speaker 1: and you're still gonna have to stop them at some

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Speaker 1: they're gonna score quick anyway, so you have to take.

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Speaker 2: Time off the clock.

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Speaker 1: Well, they're gonna score quick anyway then and you're not

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Speaker 1: their brains about what took place with Friarmuth there, suggesting

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Speaker 1: I joked that they would have a six minute scoring

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Speaker 1: of course you saw what happened with the Bengals eventually

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Speaker 3: And taking that approach with Fiarmuth should have gone down.

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Speaker 3: That is just a kind of sneaky way in my

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Speaker 3: mind to excuse the defense, which again was just crap

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Speaker 3: in a huge moment there. It's not illegal for them

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Speaker 3: to get off the field. It's not illegal for TJ.

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Speaker 3: Watt to have another big set.

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Speaker 1: You've got one hundred and fifty eight million dollar defense.

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Speaker 1: You're not going to tell your tight end to try

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Speaker 2: Which is no guarantee. And just.

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Speaker 3: How people would feel comfortable in just these five six

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Speaker 3: to be like, we're good enough in the red zone

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Speaker 3: it in no problem. Like come on, guys, Like that's

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Speaker 3: a little ridiculous. No team would think that way.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they could screw up another toush push. Maybe they

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Speaker 3: Maybe ball gets tipped and gets interceptioned, intercepted in the

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Speaker 3: game's over, Zach Frazier shoots a snap overs Rodgers's head.

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Speaker 2: There's so many things that could happen there.

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Speaker 3: So it's sore influence to be like, well, you should

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Speaker 3: there was that part of me that says, I have

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Speaker 3: didn't seem at all possible, and I was just waiting

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Speaker 2: I was waiting for that, and the everybody's why didn't

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Speaker 2: he go down? He never should have gone down. It's

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Speaker 2: the Bengels against the Steelers. Just take the touchdown like

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Speaker 2: I was waiting for that.

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Speaker 1: In in fact, I was waiting for vontez Berfect to

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Speaker 2: Or Hey, ladies and.

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Speaker 1: Gentlemen, it's alumni night here in Cincinnati, here at Paul

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Speaker 1: pac Man Jones is gonna be our ceremonial holder on

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Speaker 1: the game winning field goal.

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Speaker 3: Especially didn't see like a Jalen Ramsey try to snot

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Speaker 3: then try to go way offside, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Like, what's the point try it? Give it a shot?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but would you lose seconds on that? No, because

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Speaker 1: it's when the ball is touched with your foot, right,

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Speaker 1: I guess you're right.

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Speaker 3: They would probably be thinking like, oh, well, did you

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Speaker 1: I would have been a touch shaman action that made

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Speaker 1: I just thought they could have maybe done a little

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Speaker 2: They've done that before.

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Speaker 1: Hayden did that and Hayden jumped off side three times

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Speaker 2: But they warn you after two if you do it again.

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Speaker 2: I thought that that's what would happen.

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Speaker 3: That's what they did to the Commanders in the NFC

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Speaker 3: losing it, just kept going off sides over and over

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Speaker 3: and over, like we're giving him a touchdown, Frankie Luvu

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Speaker 3: if you keep this up, buddy. I just thought that

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Speaker 3: you were saying there, that little Steelers bangles weirdness that

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Speaker 1: But because they did what they did and they actually

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Speaker 1: had to get worked one after week one. Just you

438
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Speaker 1: got the three hundred pound tackle jumping on his back

439
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Speaker 1: to celebrate, and then he had to wrench his to

440
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Speaker 1: throw the ball sixty seven yards of the air.

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Speaker 3: I kind of forgot about Rogers's hail Mary Prowess. Like

442
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Speaker 3: I never really thought of it when he signed with

443
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Speaker 3: the Steelers and he's been here until that moment came

444
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Speaker 3: to Fruition and I was like, they actually have the

445
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Speaker 3: best quarterback ever. Maybe at this like this actually has

446
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Speaker 3: some chance better than most teams. I would say he's

447
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Speaker 3: got it down to a science too, Like he does

448
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Speaker 3: that like really like elongated roll out and kind of.

449
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Speaker 1: Like she can step into his heads up a little bit,

450
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Speaker 1: and then he's always real good about figuring out a

451
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Speaker 1: way where he can step into it, so and he

452
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,320
Speaker 1: doesn't have to get a lot to step into because

453
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Speaker 1: he's so good at spinning the ball off platform or

454
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Speaker 1: without one hundred percent oomph on it and when he

455
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Speaker 1: really wants to.

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Speaker 2: That's what it looks like.

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Speaker 3: I have a feeling though, that he was on that

458
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Speaker 3: team playing with like the ice pack like a pitcher

459
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Speaker 3: that just.

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Speaker 1: Through it should have made Robert Jones hold it there

461
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Speaker 1: for him, no tape on it. Yeah, Broderick, you're holding

462
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Speaker 1: this the whole way back. You probably think Broderick would

463
00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 1: screw that up too, though. Do you want to get

464
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Speaker 1: into some more offensive things here? Should we take a

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Speaker 1: break and then come back and do that. I don't

466
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Speaker 1: think we should take a break, Okay. I wanted to

467
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Speaker 1: get into some more defense though. I mean, God, they

468
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 1: just sucked so bad. Okay, we could do both, because

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Speaker 1: I understand the trifecta is somewhat of so sperior.

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Speaker 2: It's about the defense. All right, Well, there we go.

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Speaker 2: We'll do that.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into the offensive foibles and there are some.

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Speaker 1: I'm not putting this game on the offense. It's ninety

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Speaker 1: percent on the defense. Let me give you the other

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Speaker 1: My dad pulled down, actually went over the Pat Fryarmouth

489
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Speaker 1: angle of conversation a few minutes ago. Tim and for

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Speaker 1: Mark Tommy Radio with me. We're gonna get to the

491
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Speaker 1: trifector where we get back to defense. But there are

492
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Speaker 1: a few offensive angles of dialogue that we have to have.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to shift blame. I'm not doing

494
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Speaker 1: what you were suggesting before. Let's talk about Friarmth not

495
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Speaker 1: taking a knee, so we can leave the beloved Steelers

496
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Speaker 1: press defense, the delicate good.

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Speaker 2: The last two weeks.

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Speaker 1: There were some offensive things that are worthy of discussion,

499
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Speaker 1: and one of them is they don't do tricky well.

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Speaker 2: And you're saying that as in regards to the Toush push.

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Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying? Toush push. They screwed us.

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Speaker 2: That should not be tricky. The flea flicker they screwed up.

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Speaker 1: You know, they kind of did the over complicated screen

504
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 1: to Darnell Washington, anything that was intricate last night. They

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Speaker 1: kind of messed up the basics they did well.

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Speaker 3: Let's not throw screens to Darnell Washington five yards in

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Speaker 3: the backfield, regardless, like even if.

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Speaker 2: That was perfect. You wanted to shake and bake.

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Speaker 3: You want him to get in five yards anyway, that's

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Speaker 3: a dk play, Okay, do that to him somebody like that?

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Speaker 2: Please?

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Speaker 1: Do you think they should have run Warren Moore? And

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Speaker 1: if so, when specifically, I think the entire game is

514
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Speaker 1: when specifically I think that was okay?

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Speaker 2: Like I've got a little bit of it.

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Speaker 1: I even had a little bit of a problem advancing

517
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Speaker 1: this in print because I knew I was going to

518
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Speaker 1: feel like a hypocrite if I did it, because I've

519
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Speaker 1: been there saying you can't just try to bang.

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Speaker 2: Your head into the wall with Warren and gain.

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Speaker 1: Well and hope it works. You have to be able

522
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Speaker 1: to take some shots down the field. But there was

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Speaker 1: no banging your head against the wall with those guys

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Speaker 1: in this game.

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Speaker 2: And this ten yards down the field.

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Speaker 1: Right, you know, like against Cleveland for instance, like they

527
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Speaker 1: only averaged four yards. There's all this talked about how

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Speaker 1: great the run game was against Cleveland. It was okay,

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Speaker 1: he was good. Their averaged about four yards to carry

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Speaker 1: before the kneel downs against the Browns in this game,

531
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Speaker 1: like whatever they wanted. They got both running backs Chase Brown,

532
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Speaker 1: who by the Way was averaging thirty something yards per

533
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Speaker 1: game coming into that contest, like he was a third

534
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Speaker 1: or fourth line fantasy football draft guy. And everybody who's

535
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Speaker 1: taking him hates his guts, yes, absolutely hates him. Hates

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Speaker 1: the Bengals offensive line. And he looked like exactly the

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Speaker 1: running back that people were talking about in preseason fantasy drafts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and every time he touched it. But the sea's parted.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's exactly what people I think were thinking would

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Speaker 3: happen with Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: Two.

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Speaker 3: They're living in eleven personnel, right, and teams are gonna

543
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Speaker 3: have to go nickel, they're gonna have to go dime.

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Speaker 3: They wanted to get only two down linemen if they

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Speaker 3: could out there for the Steelers, and that's just easy

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Speaker 3: to run block, and then you're gonna have all these

547
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Speaker 3: big holes that you can drive trucks through. And it

548
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 3: was finally working for them in this game against the

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Speaker 3: Steelers because Flacco was a legitimate threat in the passing

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Speaker 3: game and you had to worry about him getting the

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Speaker 3: ball to those receivers when they were in eleven personnel

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Speaker 3: and they had three or four receivers on the field

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Speaker 3: spreading the Steelers out, so it worked exactly as I

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Speaker 3: think the Bengals had an envision it would work, where

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Speaker 3: they didn't really run the ball that much. Like Chase

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Speaker 3: Brown only had eleven carries in this game, but I

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Speaker 3: think that's always what they envisioned their offense being, is

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Speaker 3: like twelve carries from Brown averaging close to five yards

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Speaker 3: of carry. Now, in this game, you averaged ten yards

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Speaker 3: of carry, but you mentioned Brown to Herbstreet stet.

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Speaker 1: Whenever they ran on first and ten when you expect

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Speaker 1: the other team to run, they averaged eleven yards per.

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Speaker 2: First and ten.

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Speaker 3: They were blowing their doors off, And you mentioned Chase

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Speaker 3: Brown averaging like thirty yards per carried. The Bengals as

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Speaker 3: a whole, we're averaging fifty four yards as a team

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Speaker 3: entering into this game, and they got that total on

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Speaker 3: two different drives running the football in this game. Me

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Speaker 3: on the one drive with the interception that was called

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Speaker 3: back because DK touched him, and then the very next

571
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 3: play Chase Brown took at thirty seven yards right back

572
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Speaker 3: to the original point where the guy returned it, and

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Speaker 3: they matched their season total on that drive.

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Speaker 2: Rushing the ball.

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Speaker 1: Remind me to come back to the refs if we

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Speaker 1: don't get there, all right, But I do want to

577
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Speaker 1: say about the Warren angle to the offense, if there

578
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Speaker 1: was a time where they upon further review, and this

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Speaker 1: is I'll admit, this is hindsight. But they're supposed to

580
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Speaker 1: have foresight. We're allowed to have hindsight. They're the coaches,

581
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Speaker 1: were the radio hosts, and you're you're the fans. We're

582
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: allowed to have hindsight. They should have been running when

583
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Speaker 1: they through the interception.

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Speaker 2: The deep ball to DK. They really uncharacteristic of Rogers.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, he just kind of threw it just for

586
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Speaker 1: the sake of it. It just felt like I'm rolling

587
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: the dice here, but you know, you didn't. I'm going

588
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: to hit on and.

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Speaker 3: He didn't like eighteen and he didn't place it towards

590
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Speaker 3: the sideline, you know where if it was bad, it

591
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Speaker 3: would probably.

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Speaker 2: Just be a bad thro It was a bad idea.

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Speaker 2: It was the wrong look.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember if fitz I think it was Fitzpatrick

595
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Speaker 1: at halftime and made that point. It's like, well, it's

596
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: a nice play by the safety, but what else was

597
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: he gonna do. There's no like, was he just gonna

598
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Speaker 1: stand there and pick his nose like there was nobody else.

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00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 2: To go, just DK running deep.

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Speaker 4: He there's just.

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Speaker 1: DK running deep, and he didn't have any other choices, Like,

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Speaker 1: I better help out the corner on this side of

603
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Speaker 1: the field, So he went over there and made the pick.

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Speaker 3: Was Rogers trying quick strike back because the Bengals just scored, You.

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Speaker 1: See, that's but that's the point, like did we have

606
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: to turn that into a pinball game?

607
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 2: Like they were up ten to nothing, Cincinnati just scored.

608
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Speaker 2: Did you really need to feel at that point like

609
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Speaker 2: you had to turn this into a track meet?

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Speaker 3: Why not suck the air more again out of pay

611
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Speaker 3: Court Stadium and just run fifteen times down their throat

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Speaker 3: for a touch.

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Speaker 1: You're still getting a touchdown back, why not take a

614
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Speaker 1: little bit more time.

615
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Speaker 2: To do it?

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Speaker 1: And like this is not that this is a different

617
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Speaker 1: argument than the friar Mouth should go down argument. You

618
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Speaker 1: can play with the clock in the first quarter or

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Speaker 1: the second.

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Speaker 2: Quarter, whatever it was.

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Speaker 3: That is just physically, I would argue that's almost more

622
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Speaker 3: demoralizing than a quick strike home run right after the

623
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Speaker 3: Bengals scored, Like if you had the fans kind of

624
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: back into it, it's ten to seven, and then you

625
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 3: just kind of worked your way down the field with

626
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Speaker 3: Warren and just running and running and running, eating up

627
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Speaker 3: all that clock and then getting into the end zone.

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Speaker 3: They would just been like, well, there's just there's nothing

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Speaker 3: we're gonna do in this game. It was stupid that

630
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,239
Speaker 3: they didn't run the ball there and then tim if

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Speaker 3: you noticed, they were down ten and then they were like, well,

632
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Speaker 3: let's run the ball a lot. And then that drive

633
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 3: that got the touchdown to make it twenty seven to

634
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Speaker 3: twenty four. It was mainly on the ground, so like

635
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 3: when they needed it, they sure leaned into it. That

636
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 3: was my biggest gripe with the offense was them getting

637
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Speaker 3: away from the run as much as they'd only twenty

638
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Speaker 3: carries in a game where you were averaging seven point

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Speaker 3: four yards as a team.

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Speaker 1: One quick thing on the officials, then we'll break and

641
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: get to the trifecta.

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00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 2: You can argue yay or nae.

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Speaker 1: Broderick Jones held that guy or he just kind of

644
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: went down with leverage. You can argue yay or nay.

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00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: It should have been pass interference on Chase here or

646
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: Ramsey there, tiki tak on which Penny Porter was flagged

647
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: four versus which penalty Porter got away with I'm not

648
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: really interested in adjudicating all of those. What struck me

649
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: about the officiating last night, and it pisses me off

650
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: to no end because of where we're going with this

651
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: is on the rip away from Metcalf.

652
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: There was no call.

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Speaker 1: They never said if it was a touch, a reception

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Speaker 1: or an interception.

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Speaker 2: They never said anything.

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Speaker 1: If you watch the body language of the official who

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Speaker 1: was on the sideline, assuming it was the side judge,

658
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Speaker 1: but whatever official was on the sideline there watching that play, did.

659
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 2: You see what he did?

660
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: Like he reached to grab the bean bag and then

661
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: didn't do it like he thought he saw it right

662
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: as it turns out like, But he's like, I didn't

663
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: really just see that, did I?

664
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: He reached paralyzed by indecision, he went for his bean

665
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 2: bag and then remembered he should have gone for his

666
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: earpiece so he could hear what was coming in.

667
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: Well, that's what they did eventually, because at no point, Now,

668
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: maybe they did make a call in the field and

669
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: the prime crew was in replay showing it, but at

670
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: no point did anybody come on the on the field

671
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: and say it's an interception. At no point did the

672
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: official get on a microphone and say it's a reception.

673
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: It's being reviewed, like we had no indication it was

674
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: being looked at for about two minutes. And when they

675
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: say every time you hear the ref say after discussion,

676
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: you know what that means. You know, that means that

677
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: New York has gotten in their head, made the call

678
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: for them and is reminding them to say after discussion,

679
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: meaning on the field, illusion alive. Yes, they're not doing

680
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: this as puppets from New York. This is us talking

681
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: it out here like guys, you know, whenever the refs

682
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: say after discussion, that's like when you're having a quasi

683
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: near argument with someone who say no offense, but obviously

684
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: you mean a fence, Like it's the same thing.

685
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 2: That preamble is just a tip off to what's coming.

686
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 3: Would you rather come out and be like, my boss

687
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 3: just told me we were wrong there from New York,

688
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 3: so we're gonna change this.

689
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: You have to, especially in certain situations when it's not

690
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: a turnover that's in play, or when it's not a

691
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: touchdown that's in play, or under two minutes where they

692
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: can automatically involve themselves.

693
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 2: You got to make a call.

694
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: So the other team knows that they're gonna challenge or

695
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: not because there's risk to a change.

696
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 2: The Bengals lost a challenge last night.

697
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: A stupid challenge that's caught exactly, but that's costly. So

698
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: like this, this mystical we can buzz in whenever we want.

699
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: It breaks the rules of how you the mechanism of

700
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: the red flag.

701
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 2: It absolutely does.

702
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 3: Can I go on a little bit of a ran

703
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 3: about officials too, if we have a time, we have

704
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 3: a little bit of time. It's only gonna take me

705
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 3: like thirty seconds. The toush push, Mason McCormick one thousand

706
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 3: percent was a false start. Not even gonna dispute that

707
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 3: right call. You're gonna say that the Eagles ever.

708
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: Call it against Philly. I said this last night on Twitter.

709
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: You're not wrong, But the amount of people that just

710
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: seized on that, like, oh my god, because it's so

711
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: obvious they always false start on their toush push.

712
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 2: You could even look at the game last night.

713
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: If you're talking about offensive lineman false starting, the tackles,

714
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: all fall starting for the Bengals, the.

715
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: Whole thing jump early. Yes, there is.

716
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: By the way, I don't think McCormick was the one

717
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: that on the to push started first.

718
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 2: This McCormick got off better.

719
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 3: That happens on almost every Eagles tush push and it

720
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 3: goes uncalled every time. I think refs are kind of

721
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 3: paralyzed because this is the tush push team, right, this

722
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 3: is their thing.

723
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: They do it perfectly. I'll tell you why they do it.

724
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why that happens. That happens because they're

725
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: watching the defense against Philadelphia.

726
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 2: But when it's the other teams, they're like, let's see

727
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 2: how they're doing it.

728
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: Let's see if they're doing it right, because you know,

729
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: the Eagles have mastered getting around that. But I think

730
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: they are so perplexed when it comes to trying to

731
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: figure out what the defense is doing. Kind of like

732
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: we just talked about the guy that from Washington, we

733
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: kept trying to breath, yea. You know, they are watching

734
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: the defense so intently to see how they're gonna stop it,

735
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: if they're gonna do something illegal to stop it. That

736
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: the Eagles can do things illegal to get it, and

737
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: they're not noticing. I would want to be the ref

738
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: though that has the balls right to big play fourth

739
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: and one, Eagles get it, throw that flag, in with

740
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: some Gustard really just fly yes, faalse start and be

741
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: right about it too, right, like go to replay review

742
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: and everybody in America at home sees the guard move

743
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: forward first, be right about it. Absolutely call it. I

744
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: would crave that moment. I would, especially if it's Lane Johnson.

745
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 3: I would be especially if it's looking for that moment

746
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 3: so badly if I was a ref, because you know,

747
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 3: they hear the noise, like they know that people are

748
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 3: on them about this, so I would be looking for that.

749
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 2: But I think you're right.

750
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 3: They just default into the defense is going to do

751
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 3: something illegal, and I better make sure I adjudicate it.

752
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 2: That's so blatant about it.

753
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: Hurts moves first, sometimes before the ball even get it,

754
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: just pushes the center forward.

755
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 2: The center's like I'll just hold on to it.

756
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: A million bodies handed to them and then yeah, it's

757
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: it is blatant.

758
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: You're right, but they're a bigger fish to fry than

759
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 2: that last night.

760
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 3: And also, don't do the touch push anymore, Steelers, because you,

761
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 3: like almost every other team the NFL, suck at it,

762
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 3: and you did fall start and that was the right call.

763
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: It was the right call exactly all right trifecta when

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Speaker 2: You know what.

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Speaker 1: Just before the top of the three o'clock hour, Tommy Radio,

782
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Speaker 1: what do we have for the trifect today?

783
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 3: For today's triffect to ten, We're gonna go with my

784
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 3: three least valuable players on a Steelers defense.

785
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 2: Only three, just as a whole.

786
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, just as a whole was

787
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 3: pretty least valuable in that game. Number three for me,

788
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Patrick Queen. He was just invisible

789
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 3: out there the entire time. And I was so encouraged

790
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 3: in the previous weeks how he was popping on the

791
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 3: television copy, you know what I mean, just seeing number

792
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 3: six flying all over the field like a middle linebacker

793
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 3: should look, making a lot of impact.

794
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: He did nothing against Cincinnati.

795
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 3: He might as well have taken the night off number

796
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 3: two For me, I'm gonna go a little cheat here.

797
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna cheat a little bit here. I'm gonna go

798
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 3: Herbig and wat together. But emphasis on Nick Herbig. After

799
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 3: so much noise about him being such a great pass rusher,

800
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 3: he only plays thirty eight percent of the snaps and

801
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 3: then just has zero impact when he's out there anyway.

802
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 3: But the number one least valuable player for that defense

803
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 3: I think has to be Jalen Ramsey. And that's ironic

804
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 3: because I think he could have had a strong case

805
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 3: heading into that game for being the most valuable player

806
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 3: for the Steelers defense this season. But he was cooked

807
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 3: like a Christmas goose all night by Jamar Chase.

808
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: Wow, you went through that and didn't mention what huh?

809
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 2: I said? Herbig and Wan they share number two? You

810
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 2: share number two?

811
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 4: Oh?

812
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 2: Okay? I think I think you're cheating. You are cheating.

813
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 2: I did cheat. I said that, Yeah, you are listening

814
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 2: to me, Well I was.

815
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: I was listening when you said her big, and then

816
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:09,919
Speaker 1: I thought, well, well that's weird.

817
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 2: Why did he say her big? I tuned out on

818
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: the Watt part. That's my bad.

819
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: I mean what was bad too. He did have that

820
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: half a sack with him. You should have split it

821
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 1: three ways then and then put high Smith in there.

822
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's kind of back up in my mind now.

823
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 3: I think her big Athough didn't dictate that, yeah, which

824
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 3: I think is maybe another air from the coaching staff.

825
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 3: It's not like high Smith was out there and helping

826
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 3: him the run defense, right. Tim wasn't like he was

827
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 3: his prowess was needed out there to slow chase Brown down.

828
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 3: But what definitely deserves some blame here. I mean, he

829
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 3: had that one play and then that was it. Just

830
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 3: like I said with Patrick Queen, you forgot he even

831
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 3: made the trip to Cincinnati. Through long stretches of that game.

832
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: It's weird in a sense that Cole Holcombe was more visible,

833
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 1: and that was probably a bad thing based on how

834
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: he became visible.

835
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 3: It was a terrible game for all the inside linebackers

836
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 3: and Peyton Wilson had six taps. He's just you know,

837
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 3: he was just okay. And he was beaten coverage a

838
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 3: couple of times as well. So I mean it looked

839
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 3: like there was progress being made by the inside backers

840
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 3: and that just all went right down the toilet in

841
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 3: this game against Cincinnati was one of their worst games

842
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 3: as a unit all year.

843
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 2: You know, it wasn't very.

844
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 1: Visible either, and had been ever since he got into

845
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 1: the lineup.

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00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,919
Speaker 2: Was Harmon. Yeah, that's a really good point.

847
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 1: He thought Harmon had his least impactful performance and.

848
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 3: There was a weakness with the guards in Cincinnati, theoretically

849
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 3: Reisner and the Rivers, the rookie. I mean, it was

850
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 3: not a strong interior. It was not a strong offensive

851
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,439
Speaker 3: line in general. And Tim we said on countdown this week,

852
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 3: we were like, credit to the Steelers pass rush. They're

853
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 3: doing this against weak offensive lines. And that's not always

854
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 3: the case. We sometimes prognosticate, oh, this is a terrible

855
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 3: matchup for the opposing team. Their line stinks, and then

856
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 3: they go out and they shut down the Steelers pass rush.

857
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 3: That happened this week against Cincinnati. That line stinks, but

858
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 3: they did a good job against Pittsburgh.

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00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: This seems to be a recur theme where you feel

860
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: like the Steelers have just this overwhelming advantage over the

861
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: offensive line. To your point, and I've raised that time

862
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: and time and time again, and then we walk away

863
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: from it.

864
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 2: And I don't know why we.

865
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: Don't focus on that more, because, like Matt Williamson points out,

866
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: all the time, you usually walk into a game where

867
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: the defensive front is better than the offensive front. And

868
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: if it's as decidedly advantageous for the Steelers as it

869
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 1: has been, more games should look like Minnesota and Cleveland,

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00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: and not enough.

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00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: Do I know. It's a bit bizarre.

872
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 3: And then conversely, when you see like the Lane Johnson's

873
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 3: of the world come in or a really good matchup

874
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 3: for the opposing team as far as neutralizing the Steelers

875
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 3: pass russes concerned, almost like the Steelers step up in

876
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 3: those instances, and then the pass rush is dominant in

877
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 3: those aspects too, So it's really weird. It's hard to

878
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 3: figure out what the reason would be there. I'd also

879
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 3: like to throw a little honorable mention as far as

880
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 3: the least valuable players is concerned to Darius Slay last night,

881
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 3: because my god, anytime he found himself on Chase Flacco

882
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 3: went right there.

883
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 1: I want to give you credit for something I did

884
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: listen to, even if I didn't listen to the wat

885
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: part of these splitting and cheating for number two in

886
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: the trifecta, I thought you might have made the best

887
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: point of anybody I heard this week.

888
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 2: Wow, I promise you it was an accident.

889
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 1: I think it was because you didn't write it down.

890
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: I think you were just kind of spitballing and it

891
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 1: came out of your mouth. But it was a great

892
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: point that Tomlin probably worked himself into an oblivion more

893
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: with Flacco being traded from Cincinnati to Cleveland than he

894
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: will with Josh Allen when they played the Bills in

895
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, or you know, any of the

896
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: next three teams like Herbert with the LA Chargers, or

897
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: Love This Sunday, Love This Sunday, Danny Dimes in between

898
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 1: with the Colts, like these teams that are playoff teams,

899
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 1: or Josh Allen, who was an MVP candidate again this year,

900
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: like we will come at him with a ton of

901
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: questions about like how do you stop Josh Allen? How

902
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: do you slow down justin Herbert with his wide receivers,

903
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: and he'll make it sound like we're the idiots for asking.

904
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 1: You know, but the Joe Flacco thing, where everybody else

905
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: thought it was no big deal, and why is he

906
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: turning it into this massive talking point with the Andrew

907
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: Berry quote. He's more bugged out about Flacco switching teams

908
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: than he is about facing MVP candidates. There's no doubt

909
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: about that.

910
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 3: And just thinking the other quarterback was healthy named Joe,

911
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 3: who's usually there for Cincinnati, it would have gone how

912
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 3: you're illustrating it, well.

913
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,919
Speaker 2: Yes, I bet you having the case like he would

914
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 2: have been.

915
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: We've seen Joe Burrow before, we know what he has,

916
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 1: We respect him a great deal, we know how good

917
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: he is. But this is not new to us. This

918
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: is AFC North football. There's a lot of advanced intimate

919
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,439
Speaker 1: knowledge between the teams. It's exactly how the SoundBite would

920
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: have sounded. But Flacco moves teams and he just melts.

921
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 3: But nobody fits what you just said, that faux SoundBite

922
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 3: which sounds so real that would come out of my

923
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:01,439
Speaker 3: Tomlin's mouth.

924
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 2: No one fits that description like Joe Flacco.

925
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco looked like Joe Montana, dipped in Joe Burrow

926
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: and rolled in Joe Namath last night. That's how he

927
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: performed against the Steelers. In thirty seconds, we'll talk about

928
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: everything that went wrong last night, everything that went wrong

929
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: last night, and if you want to get a head

930
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: start on at eight three, three, four, one, two ninety

931
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: nine thirty nine, you.

932
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: Can call now and we'll get into it.

933
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 1: I'm going to air my grievances about the Pittsburgh Steelers,

934
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: just like I do on the trip after every game

935
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: for the Steelers. You and I can do it together

936
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: because there is a lot to air, as the Steelers

937
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: aired against Cincinnati one oh five nine.

938
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Speaker 2: The X Now it's your chance to win one thousand

939
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Speaker 2: dollars