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Speaker 3: TIMBERWLS channel with that game beyond the fan as well.

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Speaker 3: Tonight it will be Wool's Nuggets. It will be good

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Speaker 3: showdown days will be as well outstanding. Ben Lieber is

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Speaker 3: by Sierra Nevada that you're well aware of the update

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Speaker 3: on Carson Wentz. He will undergo surgery to replace a

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Speaker 3: torn labroom. Alec Lewis liber reminds us that that happened

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Speaker 3: bruised ribs from the game in Dublin. Surgery was always

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Speaker 2: What's the so? What do we say?

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Speaker 3: So obviously his season is over, maybe his time with

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Speaker 2: Who knows? What what do we say to?

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Speaker 3: What's the I guess the final verdict on Carson Wentz

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't know. I guess final verdict is it's

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Speaker 4: tough because he's putting he was put in a hard spot,

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Speaker 4: you know, and like he didn't have much time to

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Speaker 4: And you know, we've talked about a lot of times

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Speaker 4: I mean, I would say, you know, obviously record wise

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Speaker 4: the shoulders because he's a competitor, you know, he didn't,

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Speaker 4: he didn't get blindsided, and you know it just happened

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Speaker 4: that it was a flukey play. No, he's dropping his shoulder,

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Speaker 2: We haven't talked since the game.

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Speaker 3: I don't think I'm still I'm in the camp that

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Speaker 1: And I'm not suggesting you make a change to think

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Speaker 4: You know, I was a little bit, But you know,

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Speaker 3: A couple of people have texted that they'd heard that

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Speaker 4: Because it did seem like you were taking another jab

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Russell went with the count the counter that he

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Speaker 3: That's that is still to this day his greatest vulnerability

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Speaker 4: Well, you want to talk about feud, an ongoing feud

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Speaker 4: right now that is reaching maybe criminal behavior. Have you

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Speaker 3: Oh you know, I'm glad you brought this up. Yes,

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Speaker 3: this has gotten very juicy.

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Speaker 3: I said, watch and see Ryan Leaf will be a

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Speaker 3: That's about as hot as you get. Well, it was

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Speaker 4: I mean, the thing is like that's why. I mean,

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Speaker 4: He's not Do you you really picture this tall, prototypical

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, we don't need to spend a lot of

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Speaker 4: they had a banged up offensive line. I get that

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Speaker 3: No question.

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Speaker 1: So we know the McCarthy era is starting. I mean,

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Speaker 2: That's a lot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a lot, but you know what we if

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Speaker 4: And this is as a fan base, this is what

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Speaker 4: those moments. It seems like it's kind of unfair, and

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Speaker 4: it's like, Okay, who do we have that's healthy upfront

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Speaker 1: Is the division green Bay wins last night? I think

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Speaker 1: we're going to Detroit, so and I don't know who

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Speaker 1: Do you think, especially when you lay out the schedule here,

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean you can't get in elsewhere through the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: but you sort of got to get it restarted pretty quick.

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Speaker 2: Don't you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you really do?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 4: Am I going to count this team out?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 4: Not yet. But let's deal with reality here. The likelihood

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Speaker 4: Right now, I think there's still the number one offense

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Speaker 4: we got to turn this thing around, not in a

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Speaker 1: So what from your perspective, what what's the inside word?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: Because this is not to this point, I don't believe

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Speaker 4: The last couple of games. You're getting Mattel's to kind

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Speaker 4: a smaller guy at him. And yeah, he didn't do

438
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Speaker 4: a very good job of getting his hands out about

439
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Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage and he got that immediate separation.

440
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Speaker 4: But I don't I don't think that he's played awful.

441
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,160
Speaker 4: You know, you gave up a play, all right, that's

442
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:33,440
Speaker 4: gonna happen. I'm definitely more concerned with his concussion issues,

443
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,480
Speaker 4: you know, and he left the game with getting evaluated.

444
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,680
Speaker 4: I don't know where he's at right now in that protocol.

445
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 4: But you know, playing a physical brand of football that

446
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 4: he plays, you know, when you've got to take care

447
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 4: of your head throughout the rest of the season, I

448
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 4: think it's going to really affect whether or not he's

449
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Speaker 4: going to stick his nose in there and get dirty.

450
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Speaker 3: For I think the trade deadline is next I think

451
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Speaker 3: I'd say it's a week from tomorrow. I believe I

452
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Speaker 3: know it's next week, So we sniffin or would you

453
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 3: like to see us. Is there anything that you know

454
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 3: we trade deadline and baseball there's always talking about hey help,

455
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 3: you know, if you need a little help here, a

456
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Speaker 3: little help there.

457
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Speaker 1: Trades are often made. Well, the Twins don't, but you know,

458
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 1: good baseball teams do, or teams that think they're in

459
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Speaker 1: the mix. And I keep hearing these predictions that this

460
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Speaker 1: is going to be an unusually active trade deadline in

461
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Speaker 1: the NFL.

462
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Speaker 2: So you think the Vikings are going to get on that?

463
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 1: Is anything any place where you think realistically you could

464
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Speaker 1: add an interesting piece or is that too much to

465
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Speaker 1: even hope for regarding who might be available?

466
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Speaker 5: I don't know.

467
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 4: I you know, again, let's deal with reality right now,

468
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 4: like should we be buyers or sellers? And I think,

469
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Speaker 4: you know, we're probably more in cell mode than we

470
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Speaker 4: are by mode, So I think if there's something to

471
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Speaker 4: be done, I could actually think it's side put the

472
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Speaker 4: If I'm a betting man on this, I'd say that

473
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Speaker 4: we're sellers more than buyers.

474
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Speaker 3: Oo.

475
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Speaker 4: And you know, I saw the same stuff on social

476
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Speaker 4: media like everybody else, with Hawkinson being you know, connected

477
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Speaker 4: to some sort of trade. I mean, look, it makes sense.

478
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 4: I'm like all right. If they decide to do it,

479
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 4: I'm like, Okay, well, what are we going to get

480
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 4: in for compensation? I believe that we are twenty six

481
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 4: thirty six million over the cap next year. I know

482
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Speaker 4: that his contract plays a big part of that. I

483
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 4: don't think it's gonna be hard for the team to

484
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Speaker 4: get under the cap. But if they can make an

485
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Speaker 4: in season move as opposed to an off season move,

486
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Speaker 4: and they can just kind of take care of that

487
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 4: one contract right now plus get compensation draft wise, I

488
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 4: don't see why they don't explore that. So yeah, I

489
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 4: definitely think that if anything happens, will probably be sellers

490
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Speaker 4: as opposed to buyers.

491
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Speaker 1: Buyers as in the concession that we're really not you know,

492
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Speaker 1: in it this year or more. Well, no, this is

493
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Speaker 1: a particular move that we're not as high on as

494
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Speaker 1: we once were. Plus we are in a financial situation

495
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Speaker 1: where if we can get ahead of it and get

496
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Speaker 1: something back, we'll do it and not necessarily kill our

497
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Speaker 1: chance is to get back into the playoff chase.

498
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Speaker 4: I think it's all of it, you know. I think

499
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 4: you got to put it all in the pot and

500
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 4: figure out what you're cooking with. And yeah, right right,

501
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 4: as of right now, what do you realistically expect what

502
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 4: our schedule going for? Yeah, and a quarterback that's played

503
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Speaker 4: eight quarters. I mean, I don't think that we can

504
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 4: have delusions of grandeur here. We have to be realistic

505
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 4: about what we're facing. And do you know, have crazier

506
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 4: things happened, Absolutely, But given all the injury stuff that

507
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 4: we have going on, given the fact that have a

508
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Speaker 4: quarterback that we still don't know what we have out

509
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:36,959
Speaker 4: of him, we get a defense that right now that

510
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 4: can't figure it out, and we're giving up a ton

511
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 4: of points in a ton of yards, especially late. All

512
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 4: of that factors in. And yes, you hear you know

513
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Speaker 4: Quacy talk about a two year plan all the time,

514
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 4: like every year, every time they make a decision in

515
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Speaker 4: the off season or whatnot, they're like, listen, we we

516
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Speaker 4: have a two year plan. We're always kind of readjusting

517
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 4: our two year plan. And if you are looking at

518
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Speaker 4: out ahead of time into twenty twenty s beyond, well,

519
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 4: I think the financial part of it is definitely a

520
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 4: piece of the puzzle.

521
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Speaker 3: Do you have a hotsplash player of the game for

522
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Speaker 3: the Packers Steelers game?

523
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not going to be very surprising. I mean, shoot,

524
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Speaker 4: I freaking sat down and created a video about the

525
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 4: guy the other day. I mean, Jalen Redman is pop

526
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Speaker 4: Splash player.

527
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Speaker 6: Of the game.

528
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Speaker 4: You know, he's been my player of the game several times.

529
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Speaker 4: I feel like it's either between he and Grenard or

530
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 4: maybe an offensive lineman. But you know, the guys having

531
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Speaker 4: a special year, and I want everybody to appreciate how

532
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 4: well he's playing, given his story, given where he's come from,

533
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 4: given where he's got to battle through, depth chart stuff

534
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 4: and labels and all this other stuff. He's our best

535
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 4: in tier defensive lineman, hands down. He just he's good

536
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 4: against the run. He's twitchy, he has great fundamental handwork.

537
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 4: He's very quick to disengage. He can play with separation

538
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 4: even though he doesn't look like a very tall guy,

539
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 4: especially in this game against the Chargers. I mean so

540
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 4: many times is where he would hit and create separation

541
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 4: with his arm length, look diagnosed with the ball carriers

542
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 4: and get off and go try to make a play.

543
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 4: I just think that everything that he's doing is fantastic,

544
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 4: and you know he's still developing, he is still getting better.

545
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 4: So sreak. The sky's the limit. For this guy.

546
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 2: Thank you, Ben Labor, good luck in the Motor City.

547
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 2: Thank you, Yeah, thanks man, appreciate you.

548
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 4: Thanks, talk to you next Monday.

549
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: It's a deal. Nacho liber helping us out as only

550
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: he can do. By the way, Larry Mondello guy has

551
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: checked in.

552
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 3: Is that right? Lieber said he doesn't get info from

553
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 3: anyone with the vikings.

554
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 2: He comes up with his takes on his own.

555
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: But I've been listening to the fan a long time,

556
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 1: and I believe he's stealing his takes from Mark Rosen.

557
00:26:45,400 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 3: From Mark Rosen, you say, let's get a waste some

558
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 3: money for a final time tonight to fan and two

559
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 3: men and a junk truck want to give you a

560
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 3: shot twin bonus bucks. That is our national cast contest.

561
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 3: And the final keyword is bills. Go to KFA dot

562
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 3: comment through the keyword bills. You see where the Packers

563
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 3: play next week. They're hosting Carolina. Yeah, Goodell's They're gonna

564
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 3: be six to one and one.

565
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's over for the division.

566
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 3: It is.

567
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Speaker 1: Well, maybe Lever's right, maybe we're going to be sellers.

568
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 1: I I can finesse my way, or I can lie

569
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 1: to myself enough into thinking that even if I traded Hockinson,

570
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to give up on this season. He

571
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like he's a very big factor in

572
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 1: what we're doing right now?

573
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 2: Does it not really for the money? And again, is

574
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 2: it is it?

575
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 3: Is it a.

576
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: Dangerous time to make that evaluation because can you argue

577
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: that because of the unsettled nature of the quarterback position,

578
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: it's more about that than it is that Hockinson doesn't

579
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: quite have as much left in him as you might think.

580
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 3: So, I don't know. That is an interesting name that's

581
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 3: come up. By the way, there was he did an

582
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 3: excellent job on talking points Friday, and I did not

583
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 3: get I got to all but one of them. This

584
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 3: is one that we called the highly touted young defensive

585
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 3: star who apparently isn't.

586
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 6: Herbert goes under center, that all's the tailback, three receiving

587
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 6: options right, Herbert's looking to pass Clows over the middle

588
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 6: of Maconkeye is uncovered. He crought it at about the

589
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 6: twenty yard line flag on the play, lad mcconkee is

590
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 6: able to roll ahead of the seventeen unofficially a gain

591
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 6: of fifteen yards pending penalty. And we'll see what Cleete

592
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 6: Blakeman has to say.

593
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's either going to be holding or roughing the

594
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 7: pass or one of the two.

595
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 3: Let's see personal.

596
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 4: Foul, rough in the pass, le defense, swimming NY two

597
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 4: goes half a different show goal lines from the in

598
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Speaker 4: the past.

599
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Speaker 7: First, that nothing, that's not number fifteen actually dash Turner. Yeah,

600
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 7: that was kind of That was just stupid because Turner

601
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 7: kind of launched himself. He left, he left his feet

602
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 7: instead of running through and trying to get a hit

603
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 7: on him. Yeah, he launches himself with helmet first, and

604
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 7: then it's justin Herbert right in the face mask. So

605
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 7: that was that was kind of a no brainer on

606
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Speaker 7: on the officials part.

607
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Speaker 1: Holy cal perfectly described by Peter Bursich. I wanted him

608
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: kicked out of the game, and I'm told that there

609
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: is that discretion.

610
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: I don't know how often it happens.

611
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: That was about again, it's there's plenty of cheap shots

612
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: in this league. I get that, but that to me

613
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: was about as cheap as you get and stupid. As

614
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: Bursuch said, you know the old run through the play,

615
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: but what's the what do you what exactly? It said,

616
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: it looks like at play where you're just simply trying

617
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: to injure the other team's quarterback, and Dallas Turner should

618
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: be actually concerned with other aspects right now than that.

619
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Speaker 1: Don't you think making a name for himself this is

620
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: not the way to do it well.

621
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Speaker 3: The other thing I would say is waiting until the

622
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 3: ball is snap to jump across the line of scrimmage,

623
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 3: because he had at least one yes, it's not two,

624
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 3: and I thought about even just throwing those in there,

625
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 3: because those were almost to me as annoying the times

626
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 3: where he just jumped into the neutral zone before anything

627
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 3: was happening. And I know what happened at least once.

628
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 2: I think it happened twice, and.

629
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Speaker 3: I'm at least I don't know if they accepted the

630
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 3: penalties on either occasion, but just the fact that it's

631
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 3: a free play because he's up at the top of

632
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 3: the screen just going before the snap, it's a penalty

633
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 3: and it just shows you that you're just not locked in,

634
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 3: you're not ready, you're not playing.

635
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: It's just your game is not translated to a professional level,

636
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: that's for sure.

637
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 3: Did you let me see the area code on this one?

638
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 3: Do you have a three to two zero burner phone?

639
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 3: This is rather not answering. It sounds like it's you

640
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 3: setting aside the cruelty of it. How do you justify

641
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 3: putting a player with a torn labrum, dislocation and fracture

642
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 3: on the field multiple weeks in a row. Beyond and

643
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 3: in humane, it's just bad football. How are you supposed

644
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 3: to win games when you're playing someone that hurt? We

645
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 3: are trying to win right. That sounds like you saying

646
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 3: Brozemer should have been should have played during this stretch earlier.

647
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 3: I mean, he's pretending it's about protecting the safety of

648
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 3: the play while she's not. He's also admitting you are

649
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 3: still trying to win the win the game because we

650
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 3: had also a guestling. Carson Wentz's injury was a shoulder

651
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 3: dislocation that tore his labrum and fractured the socket. The

652
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 3: source confirmed surgery was inevitable to repair it so he

653
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 3: could continue his career. Do you think any of these

654
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 3: texts or tweets are getting to kirk Herbstreet like, do

655
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Speaker 3: you think he feels bad at all? I love Kirk Hurstree,

656
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Speaker 3: You know it hurt me to hear Kirk Hurstreet saying yeah,

657
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 3: he made the guys dying, Kirk, and now you're reading

658
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 3: these things, it's like, it's okay that he's crying. Now

659
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 3: again it's not his throwing shoulder, but that in football,

660
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 3: when you're the quarterback on thematic the hits you're taking

661
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 3: and he's landing on the shoulder and they're driving the

662
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 3: bad shoulder into the ground, it's a distinction without a difference.

663
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 3: And it'll I still, you know, I get you know,

664
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Speaker 3: because Lieber said, well, the concern maybe was you don't

665
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 3: want to get another guy hurt. I don't think you

666
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 3: can think that way all honesty.

667
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: That's a risk in a real world sense.

668
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: But if you have a guy in that kind of

669
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Speaker 1: shape and what's now being described, maybe part of the

670
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: problem is up until now it's been injured shoulder. Then

671
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: we get to the nitty gritty with the announcement he's

672
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: having surgery. I don't think it had been previously reported

673
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Speaker 1: as a torn labor and publicly had.

674
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Speaker 3: It, I don't think so, we probably would have known

675
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 3: that suggested that it was something really bad. And the

676
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 3: brace this last week I think was more elaborate than

677
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Speaker 3: the one the previous agree, because I think it was

678
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 3: just like a tape that week looked like Athletico, it

679
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 3: looked like electrical tape around his arm.

680
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: Then last week it was like it was a contraption.

681
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 3: Right, But again, I hope somebody eventually gets to the

682
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 3: bottom of that sort of player abuse, because that's what

683
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 3: it comes off as it really does. It's like, what

684
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 3: do you And you could even make.

685
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Speaker 1: The argument that well, regardless of whether the guy you

686
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Speaker 1: have behind him is a rookie or not. I mean,

687
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: he's presumably he's healthy enough where maybe you give him

688
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: a shot, it can't go any worse than it's going

689
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: right now, you can even make that argument. But I'll

690
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: say again, I just on a humanity level, just a

691
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: mercy rule thing. I'm still I still need somebody to

692
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: get to the bottom of how you can possibly justify

693
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: continuing to play a guy with what, as it turns out,

694
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: has that many very significant injuries to his shoulder, not

695
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Speaker 1: even talking about the pain associated with.

696
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 3: These significant injuries. And I'm trying to think he'll meet

697
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 3: to media Wednesday, right, KOC, Yeah, he's those questions have

698
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 3: to be asked because we were all thinking it. I

699
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 3: had people coming up to me at Grays and saying,

700
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 3: why do you think they're keeping him in there. It

701
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 3: looks like he's just dead. He can't do anything, he's

702
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 3: obviously in pain. It brought me back to either twenty

703
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 3: thirteen or twenty fourteen, the last time the Gophers beat

704
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 3: Michigan for the jug and Ann Arbor and Brady Hoak

705
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 3: was the coach. They had a quarterback who I can't

706
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 3: remember the injury, but it was clear he was incapacitated.

707
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 3: It was either concussion or leg I don't remember specifically,

708
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 3: but the Michigan fans were booing Brady Hoke and Michigan

709
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 3: because this kid was still in the huddle, like he

710
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 3: kept going back to the huddle. He couldn't move, he

711
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 3: couldn't throw. It was awful. Yeah, and all of us

712
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 3: are like, this is crazy. His own the home fans

713
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 3: are booing the coach because they're leaving this guy out

714
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 3: there essentially to die. And that's what I felt like

715
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 3: on Thursday. And now we're getting confirmation of it wasn't

716
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 3: the her Street quotes, and he's just got it. He

717
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 3: needs to do a better job. Week seven of the NFL,

718
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 3: where teams are separating, not you know, of not showing

719
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 3: quite as much of that agony that he's living in

720
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 3: that that as somebody said, where's the quote Torn Laborman

721
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 3: cracked bone socket?

722
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 2: Come on, he's gotta suck it up.

723
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, how long are you gonna milk it? JJ is

724
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 3: still hobbling on a on a little ankle tweak from

725
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 3: nine months ago and hopping around just behind him, apparently

726
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 3: not ready to go. Yeah, that's what a mess. Well again,

727
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 3: not even November. Here's the saving grace. I think if

728
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 3: you're if you're a if you're a mcbobo, the.

729
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 1: Saving grace is one way or another. Now there's no

730
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: longer any delay. We're gonna see the kid play and

731
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: we're probably not We're gonna have to. I mean, it's

732
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: gonna be. Is it not fair to say, as of today,

733
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 1: given the schedule, and we laid out the schedule early

734
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: in the season, why you need it have a better

735
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: record after five games than three and two that given

736
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: the schedule, the Vikings for me are a long shot

737
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: to make the postseason. That doesn't mean it can't happen.

738
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're dead, but it's a long shot.

739
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 1: So you reach a point where maybe then you can

740
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: calm down and say, now it's gonna be easier for

741
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: the kid to play him, obviously, and to live with

742
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: the mistakes and to think that, yeah.

743
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: All right, it's it's hard knocks. It's gonna be tough.

744
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 3: But that's how we're gonna That's how he becomes Drake

745
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 3: May in twenty twenty six. Right, he plays bad in

746
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 3: a few games, makes a few mistakes, but he's out there,

747
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 3: he's getting reps. Most importantly for him right now is

748
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 3: he's got to stay healthy.

749
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: I cause I don't know if you know, we think

750
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 1: there are prop bets on everything.

751
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 3: We think they're odds on everything. Are their odds right now?

752
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 3: If I if you go went to Vegas or to

753
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 3: Bowdog or whoever, could you get where there will there

754
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 3: be odds posted on the likelihood of Max Brosmer starting

755
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 3: a game for the Vikings this season.

756
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 2: Probably not, they don't do it that way.

757
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 3: Probably not, but somebody might think, I think you might

758
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 3: end up getting your wish at this point. I think so,

759
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 3: just because unless they unless they make the move to

760
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 3: pick up Leebers guy from the Giants or bring back

761
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins who played very well.

762
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: Yes, but then somebody said, and it's true, they put

763
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: he's he's not a shotgun quarterback. And they they were

764
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: on almost all their stuff in the show, and that

765
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: made it mattered, right, because I saw their defense didn't

766
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 1: look very good. I saw there was a bad fumble

767
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: that wasn't his fault. I don't know how, So I

768
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: didn't watch all of that game, but I don't think

769
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 1: he did anything where you're gonna go, WHOA, somebody's gonna

770
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 1: want to grab him before the deadline.

771
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 3: Do you think they didn't see anything? They got killed, right,

772
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 3: team that killed us got killed at home by Miami,

773
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 3: I know. And the video circulating is Kirk checking into

774
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 3: a different play on fourth and seven and then throwing

775
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 3: it short at the sticks actually when they're getting down,

776
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 3: when they're down by like fifty. But it's just vintage,

777
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 3: changing the play, doing all these things, and then's still

778
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 3: throwing it two yards short. And that's my guy. That's

779
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 3: Kirk coo change go to forty two, right. I will

780
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 3: weave Johnny Athletic at five thirty.

781
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: God, that's right. We got Johnny Athletics. So I don't

782
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: want to. I'm already cutting into his time. Yes, we'll

783
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: make it up to him. We'll definitely make it up

784
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 1: to him and get a live report from Target Center

785
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: on the Anthony Edwards injury situation, the Wolves start to

786
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: the season, and where he is regarding his favorite football team,

787
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings.

788
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: It's John Krasinski.

789
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 5: It's five.

790
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 3: Tony, Donny ahead. I didn't he talking about that right now?

791
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: RBC Wealth Management, the sponsor of the Johnny Athletics segment.

792
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: He joins us via the Connectico Water Systems hotline. Are

793
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: you positioned currently in front of the Target Center cage?

794
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 5: I'm not in front of the cage, unfortunately, I'm deep

795
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 5: in the bowels of Target Center where there was a

796
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 5: little bit of peace and quiet to communicate. So yeah,

797
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 5: but I'm ready for war tonight for sure.

798
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 2: Larry mondelo Guy checks in.

799
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,439
Speaker 1: This is a carryover from our discussion on this show

800
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: in the last segment Johnny having to do with the

801
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: uncivilized decision of Kevin O'Connell to keep Carson Wentz in

802
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: the game the other night. Here's what larry mondelo Guy,

803
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: here's how he puts it. The way koc kept Wentz

804
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: in there. Despite the beating, you'd have thought Zimmer was

805
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: still the coach and his only other option a quarterback.

806
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 2: Was Kellen Mond just about just about captures it?

807
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 3: Does it not?

808
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 2: It does?

809
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 5: I was waiting for someone to ask him postgame about

810
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 5: you know, why didn't she go to Brosmer and say,

811
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 5: because I've seen him play or I've seen him.

812
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 3: In practice and just see him every day. That's it.

813
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right, that's what it is. Yeah. So yeah,

814
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 5: I don't know, but yeah, I mean, I'll admit I

815
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 5: was watching the game and saying, man, you got to

816
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 5: get this guy out of here. I mean, he's clearly,

817
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 5: you know, an incredible amount of pain. Nothing was working

818
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,439
Speaker 5: for him. I don't know all everything that led into

819
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 5: the decision. I'm sure that Wentz was lobbying to stay

820
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 5: in the game, but he took a beaten and it

821
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 5: was that was hard to watch, for sure.

822
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: It was brutal to watch, and and and and now

823
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 1: we you know, especially now that we know more of

824
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: the details, a shoulder dislocation that tore his laborum and

825
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: fractured the socket.

826
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Speaker 2: I honestly, I someone one of.

827
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Speaker 1: You, and I know you know you're not covering the

828
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: team every day, but somebody Alec lewis our guys. Seffert

829
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: will be with us tomorrow. Guestling. Somebody needs to get

830
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Speaker 1: to the bottom of the mystery of how you keep

831
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 1: playing him. I I in all seriousnes I I thought

832
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: it was one of the crueler, more inhumane situations I

833
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: can recall in a while, and it made no sense

834
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 1: within the realm of the game.

835
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Speaker 2: Was lost. So right, you know the game's over at

836
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 2: that point, So bring in whoever you have to bring in.

837
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 3: Obviously, Guardi's guy, have him hand off a bunch and

838
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 3: you know, do a couple of short passes and get

839
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 3: on the plane and get the red Eye back, you know,

840
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 3: from Los Angeles.

841
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I mean I heard Ben Lieber talking, you know,

842
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 5: a segment earlier about well, you know what, if Rosmer

843
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 5: gets hurt, then you got to throw McCarthy out there.

844
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 5: I don't. I mean, I just don't think you can

845
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 5: plan for someone else getting hurt like that, especially when

846
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 5: the guy's in as much pain as he clearly was.

847
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 5: I mean, I've certainly covered that league and the NBA

848
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 5: a long time, and a lot of you know, you

849
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 5: talk to athletes about just what's the most painful injuries

850
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 5: you endure, and torn laborum like that is incredibly painful,

851
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 5: let alone when you're taking you know, hits to it,

852
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 5: and you're getting tackled and all those things, and so

853
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 5: I do think that the right thing was to take

854
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 5: him out and put Rose More in and just you know, yeah,

855
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 5: try to get out of there. Just give the young

856
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 5: kid a little chance to throw it around and see

857
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 5: what happens. The game was lost, nothing was to be

858
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 5: gained from it at all, other than maybe trying to

859
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 5: honor Carson Wentz's wishes if that's individule. Gosh, he was

860
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 5: pitching a fit on the sideline. I mean, he was

861
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 5: just you got to save him from himself at that point.

862
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: By two independent sources have confirmed the Bumper to Bumper

863
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: program that you John Athletic has re signed with the

864
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: Athletic and we are demanding the terms of the new deal.

865
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Speaker 5: Demanding it, well, you're going to have to do some

866
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 5: reporting on that. You're you are a dogged investigator, and

867
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Speaker 5: so you will. I'll leave you leave it up to

868
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 5: you to find the terms. But I can confirm, yes

869
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 5: that I have resigned a multi year deal and very

870
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 5: thankful for the Athletic and for all the support that

871
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 5: I've had, and certainly on this show as well, to

872
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 5: help raise the profile and keep me relevant and so yeah,

873
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 5: but really excited about being here. We've been here through

874
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 5: it all these last eight years, building this thing up

875
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,720
Speaker 5: with Russo and Alec and Dan and Aaron and everyone

876
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 5: and Joe and so I love it here and just

877
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 5: happy to keep going.

878
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good news. Congratulations, boy.

879
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 5: This is a big, big package.

880
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 3: That's it. We're going to find out what the package is,

881
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 3: sooner or later, we're going to we are going to

882
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 3: get to the bottom of the size of the package.

883
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 3: So I'm going to say all I want to know,

884
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 3: do you finally have enough juice to get us a

885
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 3: hat or something or not yet?

886
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:37,919
Speaker 2: One hat?

887
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 3: One?

888
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, one promo.

889
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 5: I used all of my juice and leverage to just

890
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 5: get this deal done. So I think I've I'm the

891
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 5: equity of gone. Now say yeah, I don't know if

892
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 5: they're going to be able to help you out there.

893
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: You know, I want to get to some wool stuff.

894
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: But because there's obviously injury news there too. But six

895
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: one two guy raises a point that I briefly discussed.

896
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: Was it Friday or Sunday? I don't know which. I'm

897
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: gobsmacked by it, but I'll run it by you and

898
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: see if you think this person might be onto something.

899
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: Because this is I think a theory that's well has

900
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: great momentum on gopher Hole Dan. No idea of Prosmer

901
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: is any good. But it's clear their egos here quazy

902
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: KOs JJ in play that mean that he will not play.

903
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: How else do you explain playing Wentz when injured and

904
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: so inept Wentz is no threat to JJ, but Brozmer

905
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: possibly being more successful must be a huge threat to

906
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: the triumph rate. Now I find that preposterous. But there

907
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: are people, there are gopher roops maybe guards you among them,

908
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: who actually believe that was the main reason Kaos was

909
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: afraid to put Brozemer out there your thoughts.

910
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 5: So this is like maybe the Rock party situation incis

911
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 5: go with free lance, or like the Cousins and Griss

912
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 5: RG three thing. So it wouldn't be the first time,

913
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 5: is what I would say. It would not be the

914
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 5: first time that something like that may have come into play.

915
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 5: I do not believe that is the case. I certainly

916
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 5: can't say that with any certainty. But I know that

917
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 5: they love JJ McCarthy, that they want to give him

918
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 5: the chance, and all those things I don't think that

919
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 5: they're afraid that Brozemer would come in on enough stage

920
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 5: him and then you'd have a real quarterback controversy on

921
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 5: your hands. But at this point, Dan, with the way

922
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 5: things are going, you need something good to happen here.

923
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 5: So I would argue that that would be a good

924
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 5: problem to have if indeed that did happen and Brozemer

925
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 5: came in and just lit the thing up.

926
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 3: There you go, all right.

927
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: Earlier in the program, first segment, I laid out, you

928
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: know just how horrific empathetic the weekend, the sports weekend

929
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: has been extended weekend going back to Thursday night. That

930
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: involves obviously the Vikings, It involves go for Football. It

931
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: involved Wolves, I guess, until they at least won in

932
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: unconvincing fashion last night against the Pacers. It includes the

933
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: Wild and includes Golden Gopher men's hockey. You kind of

934
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: go down the list, right, it's endless at this point.

935
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: How cataclysmic the last several days have been. But on

936
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: the morose meter, which of those teams worry you the

937
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: most in terms of a lack of recovery opportunity? Is

938
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: there a team? And probably because I know you love hockey.

939
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: Maybe leave Gopher hockey out of it if you eliminate

940
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: them on the morose meter. Which team do you think

941
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: we should be most worried about it It prehps In

942
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: having not all that much ability to bounce back in

943
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: a major way.

944
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm actually probably most worried about the Viking fan

945
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 5: because the Wild it seems like every year have some

946
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 5: sort of swoon at some point either beginning middle of

947
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 5: the season and you're like, these guys can't win a

948
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 5: game ever, and then they find their way to some

949
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 5: big surge and they at least get to the playoffs.

950
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 5: They don't win in the playoffs, but at least they

951
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 5: get there and they have a have a decent year,

952
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 5: And so you look at that. The Wolves, I think

953
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 5: will be fine. You know, the Edwards injury is difficult,

954
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 5: but they you know, they have pedigree and I believe

955
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 5: that they're going to be okay and over the long haul.

956
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 5: The Vikings right now, you just you're trying to look

957
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 5: at what do they have going for them, and there's

958
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 5: not a whole lot. The defense has been woefully underwhelming.

959
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 5: You have all these injuries on the offensive line that

960
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 5: their assaucing is weird. You don't know what you're going

961
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 5: to get at the quarterback spot. Basically all you have

962
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 5: is Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison, and if they don't

963
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 5: have a quarterback to throw to them or an offensive

964
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 5: line to protect long enough for them to get routes

965
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 5: down the field, it's just going to be really difficult.

966
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 5: And so of all of the teams, they are the

967
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 5: ones that look like they have the most issues that

968
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 5: are going to be harder for them to solve within

969
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 5: the season at this point. And that's a surprise to me, Dan,

970
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 5: because I just did not see it unfolding the way

971
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,919
Speaker 5: that it has, especially on the defensive side of the ball.

972
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 5: That's been incredibly disappointing.

973
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards, we're talking at a muscle pull two weeks,

974
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: maybe longer. Is it the kind where this is one

975
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: of those issues where it could linger a little bit?

976
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 3: What do we think?

977
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, you never know with hamstring, soft tissue stuff like this.

978
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 5: From what I've been told and people I've talked to,

979
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,439
Speaker 5: you know, around Anthony, around the team, there doesn't seem

980
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 5: to be a lot of concern that this is an

981
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 5: extended absence. He's going to be reevaluated in a week.

982
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 5: Everyone that I talked to thinks about two weeks is

983
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 5: what he'll miss. The eight games. That's you know, it's

984
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 5: a good chunk of time. But you certainly there are

985
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 5: times where you have a hamstring that keeps you out

986
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 5: a month or longer, and as of right now, there

987
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 5: does not seem to be that concern. I think that

988
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 5: was the one of the reasons that they pulled him

989
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 5: early from the game and just didn't take any chances

990
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 5: with it. I think it's you know, basically a Grade one,

991
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 5: one of the more on the milder side of things,

992
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 5: and and so there's real optimism that in a couple

993
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 5: of weeks he'll be back and good to go. But

994
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 5: you know, we'll see, just because this is the first

995
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 5: time he's had one of these kind of soft tissue injuries.

996
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 5: So he's a really fast heeler, but we'll see how

997
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 5: his body responds to that versus you know, a back

998
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 5: or an ankle or a knything like you've had in

999
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 5: the past that's usually only kept him out a game

1000
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 5: or something like that.

1001
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 2: So how does this change the lineup starting tonight?

1002
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll find out from Chris Binch a little bit

1003
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 5: later about what exactly he plans to do, But I

1004
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 5: do think that it obviously puts a lot of pressure

1005
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 5: on the team, especially in a game against the Nuggets.

1006
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 5: You know, they the Wolves that had so much success

1007
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 5: against Denver over the last several years, and most of

1008
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 5: it is because the Nuggets just can't guard Anthony Edwards.

1009
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 5: There's just no one on that team that is equipped

1010
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 5: to do it. And now you take him out, and

1011
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 5: it really does kind of change the dynamics entirely. So

1012
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 5: I think you're going to see a heavy, heavy dose

1013
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 5: of Julie Randall, which we saw last night against the

1014
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 5: Pacers and he played really well. But I also think

1015
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 5: you're gonna need to see more from Karen Shannon Junior

1016
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 5: as kind of another wing scorer, aggressive, going looking for

1017
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 5: his own shot, creating things for himself. I think that's

1018
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 5: gonna be something that you mix in more than what

1019
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 5: we've seen the first couple of games, and then you know,

1020
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 5: you may see more Bones Island Rob william Is available type,

1021
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 5: but Chris Finch really seems to like Bones more than

1022
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 5: he does Rob Dillingham at this point, and so we'll

1023
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 5: see if that kind of kind of energizes the offense

1024
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 5: a little bit because they do like what he's shown

1025
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 5: from a spark plug type of a role, and I

1026
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 5: think they're gonna probably give him a few more shots,

1027
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 5: a few more opportunities, but it's gonna have to be

1028
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 5: by committee. No one's going to replace Anthony Edwards on

1029
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 5: their own, but they have a couple of guys that

1030
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 5: are gonna get a chance now that thirty seven minutes

1031
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 5: and twenty shots are eat up on a nightly basis.

1032
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 3: Here Joker, I was talking about this with Guards the

1033
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 3: earlier and then he had to rudely interrupt me because

1034
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 3: of the breaking Carson Wentz news regarding the fact that

1035
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 3: he's having season ending surgery, maybe career ending. Who knows.

1036
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: Joker has one hundred and sixty six regular season triple doubles.

1037
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 1: That's I think, third behind your guy Westbrook and Oscar Robertson.

1038
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 5: So pretty good company.

1039
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 3: That's pretty good company. And I don't think he's close

1040
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 3: to retiring. I gotta believe he's gonna he's gonna pass

1041
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 3: him both by next season, don't you think?

1042
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1043
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 6: For sure?

1044
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 5: I mean I really think, I mean he is barelying

1045
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 5: towed if he isn't already there, Dan, he's a top

1046
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 5: ten player of all time. Yeah, I mean that's just

1047
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 5: what he's done. He's won a championship, he's won three

1048
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 5: MVP's every single night. He is an absolute nightmare to

1049
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 5: deal with. He's not as bad defensively as people try

1050
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 5: to make him out to be, and he's been fine there.

1051
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 5: But just like from a pure basketball aesthetics standpoint, there's

1052
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 5: no greater show than watching nikolaochis just you know, throw

1053
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 5: passes over his head to someone who was covered in

1054
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 5: the corner that no one saw coming except for him.

1055
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 5: He makes every shot that he takes from three. He's

1056
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 5: incredibly efficient. He's just a wide body and he lumbers

1057
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 5: up and down the course, but he's always in the

1058
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 5: right spots. He legitimately is you know, we're watching the

1059
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 5: everyone that's there here tonight we'll see. I believe when

1060
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 5: it's all said and done, he's going to be a

1061
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 5: top ten player of all time. If he's not there

1062
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 5: already that he's that amazing, not crazy at all.

1063
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 6: I like this.

1064
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 3: I think Denver did improve the players around him. What

1065
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 3: stands out to you? Where are do you agree they're better?

1066
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 3: And where specifically, do you think it's it's most likely

1067
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 3: to show up.

1068
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're They're better in the two areas that they

1069
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 5: really needed to get better. One is there is a

1070
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 5: little bit more shoeoting around him. Cam Johnson's a little

1071
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 5: more reliable. Michael Porter Junior, the guy he replaced, was

1072
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 5: really streaky, and so Johnson is just a steadier presence there,

1073
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 5: both as a shooter and then as a defender, and

1074
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 5: so I think his discipline and his precision are a

1075
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 5: big upgrade over Michael Porter Junior. And then they're also deeper.

1076
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 5: They have Jonas Valan Schunis coming off the bench as

1077
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 5: a nice stop gap center for Jokic, so that the

1078
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 5: thing just does not fall off a cliff when he

1079
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 5: comes out of a game and he doesn't have to

1080
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 5: play forty two minutes a night in the regular season.

1081
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,919
Speaker 5: Michael Malone essentially got fired in part because he would

1082
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 5: not play his bench guys, partly because they weren't very good.

1083
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 5: And you get Valanchotnis, you get Bruce Brown in there,

1084
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 5: Christian Brown's becoming a nice player, So they're just a

1085
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 5: little bit more well rounded around Joker, and Jamal Murray's

1086
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 5: playing better now than he has in the last couple

1087
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 5: of years. We'll see how that holds up. But he's

1088
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 5: another guy who really was subpar for the last couple

1089
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 5: of years and now is kind of resuming that that

1090
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 5: kind of playmaker, big shot taker type of a player

1091
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 5: that he was that in their championship run. And those

1092
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 5: are all major factors for why Denver is rightfully positioned,

1093
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 5: as you know, probably the biggest challenger to Oklahoma City

1094
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 5: right now, at least in the betting nods and all

1095
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 5: of those things. And I think that's fair right now

1096
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 5: because they're just really good.

1097
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 3: Tim Harway. Do they have Tim Harway Junior as well?

1098
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 4: Yep, yep.

1099
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 5: Hardaway is another one another or off the bench to

1100
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 5: give them some offense so that you know, when when

1101
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 5: Joker has to sit, that things just do not completely

1102
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 5: collapse on them, which is what was happening the last

1103
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 5: essentially two years.

1104
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 1: Are you beginning is it too early to conclude that

1105
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,479
Speaker 1: the whole point guard you know, dilemma with this team

1106
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: is going to be a work in progress for a

1107
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 1: long time, that this is not going to be resolved overnight.

1108
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 1: Wherever it ends up, that it's likely to be the

1109
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: head coach experimenting and trying a lot of different things.

1110
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 5: What do you what do you make of it to

1111
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 5: this point, Yes, it hasn't been good so far. Just

1112
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 5: to be frank, Dan, Mike Conley does not look very

1113
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 5: good right now. Now you know, he looked the same

1114
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 5: last year at this time and found his form, So

1115
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 5: we'll see how that goes, how he progresses. But he's

1116
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 5: looked slow, and he's turning the ball over, which he

1117
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 5: never does, and he's not playing as well defensively, and

1118
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 5: that's the problem. Dante DiVincenzo has turned the ball over

1119
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 5: a lot, you know, as as the guard right next

1120
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 5: to Anthony Edwards. It's to the point where Finch has

1121
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 5: not been able to trust Rob Dillinghams, so you don't

1122
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:42,919
Speaker 5: even play him, and you play in Boonen Tyland, who's

1123
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 5: been okay but certainly not what you want in that spot.

1124
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 5: And so I am really going to be interested over

1125
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 5: these next two weeks stand without ant in there how

1126
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 5: they go about it, because I really thought that the

1127
00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 5: pathway to success with this roster was to have it

1128
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,760
Speaker 5: be Edwards and DiVincenzo and just have Edwards really control

1129
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 5: a lot of the playmaking and the ball have the

1130
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 5: ball in his hands a lot, and it worked in Portland,

1131
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 5: and and I think that was going to be the way.

1132
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 5: And and Chris Pinch was just gonna have to settle

1133
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 5: into something that he's not really a huge fan of

1134
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 5: doing just because of the roster. But now without ants,

1135
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 5: they're going to be forced to do things a whole

1136
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 5: different way. And so I would like to see Rob

1137
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 5: Dillingham get some run. I would like to see, you know,

1138
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 5: some kind of opportunities there for him and just see

1139
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 5: what he has. Maybe he's not ready at all, but

1140
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 5: but they're going to need some more production and much

1141
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 5: fewer turnovers from the group that is handling the ball

1142
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 5: than we've seen in these first, you know, three games

1143
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 5: so far. It's been really ugly in that respect.

1144
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: Is Johnny Athletic more excited about the return of the

1145
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: trees or the premiere of the so called theater lighting

1146
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:57,919
Speaker 1: at the Target Center?

1147
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 5: Dan, I've been I've been anticipating this all day how

1148
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 5: you would respond to it, and and I just kind

1149
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 5: of pictured in my head to say, Hey, we're happy

1150
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,919
Speaker 5: for you. Can you just play some defense? And said,

1151
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 5: honest to God, enough about enough about the lights. But

1152
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 5: I you know it's trivial. It's all that I will say.

1153
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 5: The lights are cool. You walk into the building and

1154
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 5: that's the first thing that you notice. It makes it

1155
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 5: feel like an event. They you know, they spent the

1156
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 5: money on it. It was the new ownership idea. I

1157
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 5: was wondering how it would look. But the players absolutely

1158
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 5: love it. And you know, I've seen the tree uniform support.

1159
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 5: They're really nice. I like them. This The lighting is

1160
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 5: brand new at Target Center, and it does change the

1161
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 5: vibe in the building pretty significantly in my opinion. So

1162
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 5: I really liked it. I thought it was really effective,

1163
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 5: and you know, I'm glad it's going to be that

1164
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 5: way going forward because it just it just makes a

1165
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 5: mundane game on a Wednesday night or whatever. It turns

1166
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 5: it into something a little bit different and it's pretty cool.

1167
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: Well, you know, the place I most closely associate with

1168
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: that look was the old Forum in Inglewood in LA.

1169
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: The Lakers did it forever, and I thought it was

1170
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: a very effective a style. I think the Knicks perhaps

1171
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: do something similar. What's weird is and I wasn't there.

1172
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 3: But when I watched on TV, I thought it looked

1173
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 3: more light up into the stands that I remembered it.

1174
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 2: In La or New York.

1175
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 3: Now maybe that was an illusion, or maybe you have

1176
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 3: to have certain lighting because you have to have the

1177
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,439
Speaker 3: court lit. So I thought I had expected on TV

1178
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 3: for it to be more obvious that the theater part.

1179
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 2: But you definitely notice it when you're in the building.

1180
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, you feel it in the building, And you're right.

1181
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 5: I think it's like there were some people as I heard,

1182
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 5: you know, the plans unfolding, that were like, Hey, are

1183
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 5: we going to be able to you know, see the

1184
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,959
Speaker 5: steps as we walk up them to find ours and stuff?

1185
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 5: Is it going to be that dark? No, No, it's

1186
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 5: not that dark.

1187
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 4: But the.

1188
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 5: Muted lighting around the stand and then it just makes

1189
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 5: it feel like the court is center stage light on

1190
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 5: it and it really does pop off of there, and

1191
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 5: so it looks and feels different. You'll just have to

1192
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 5: You'll just have to make the trip down. Maybe tonight, Dan,

1193
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 5: if a thirty game, you have plenty of time, come

1194
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 5: on that a wine cooler.

1195
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 3: Rivalry, that might be the answer.

1196
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 5: Well, well yeah, soak it up. We'll get a spot

1197
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 5: for you here.

1198
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 3: So we don't know yet who's starting tonight. Finchy will

1199
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 3: Uh has not revealed.

1200
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 5: No, he has not, and and it will be interesting

1201
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 5: to me Dan, because he loves Mike Conley. He wants

1202
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 5: you know, he he in times of trial, he leans

1203
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 5: on him. So would it be commonly with Evincenzo? Or

1204
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 5: do you go bones you just for a little bit

1205
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 5: more juice and energy? Or is it Aaron Shannon Junior?

1206
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 5: Are you a little more size? He has several different

1207
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 5: ways to go.

1208
00:59:58,080 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 2: Is available?

1209
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,439
Speaker 5: I mean he could be available tonight.

1210
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is available tonight. Yeah, I'm kind of with you.

1211
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: But I mean I don't think that's the way Finchy thinks.

1212
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: I mean he's a big believer, I guess, and you

1213
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: got to earn the minutes. And he may not be

1214
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: happy with him. I almost wish. I almost think that

1215
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: it's never a blessing to lose Anthony Edwards. There's almost

1216
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: a part of me that says, well, now you got

1217
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: an opening that you didn't other. Just throw him out there,

1218
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: throw him out there for twenty five minutes and and

1219
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: and you know, don't lose your mind if he commits

1220
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 1: three turnovers. Almost a little bit like JJ, let him

1221
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 1: play through some stuff. Maybe I'm expecting and hoping for

1222
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: too much because the team's got got to you know,

1223
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: a season and expectations to worry about. But to me,

1224
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: this is almost like a bonus opportunity to throw that

1225
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,919
Speaker 1: into the mix, simply because of the the Edwards injury

1226
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: where you say, you know what, screw it, let's just

1227
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: throw him out there.

1228
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 5: Yeah. I agree then, because especially right now, you can say, like,

1229
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 5: let's be honest, do we expect that Timberrules to beat

1230
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 5: the Denver Nuggets tonight, the second night of a back

1231
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,919
Speaker 5: to back with no Anthony Edwards. No, So you don't

1232
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 5: have necessarily the same pressure to try to win that

1233
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 5: you do otherwise, and that may, you know, contribute to

1234
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 5: the decision to keep dealing him out of the rotation.

1235
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 5: Throw him out there. Maybe he gets hot, maybe he

1236
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 5: makes you know, a couple of shots and he can

1237
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 5: pass the ball out right, and maybe just energizes everything,

1238
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 5: or maybe it goes really poorly, but at least you

1239
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 5: give him a chance, and at least you just let

1240
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 5: you get kind of give him something to chew on

1241
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 5: a little bit going forward, and maybe you say, maybe

1242
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 5: he really struggles and you can say, hey, look, this

1243
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 5: is what we're dealing with, and this is one of

1244
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 5: the reasons he's not playing, but you at least get

1245
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 5: some evidence out there on the court. I think it

1246
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 5: would be helpful for sure.

1247
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 2: Johnny, we appreciate it.

1248
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: Have fun tonight, and don't now again, don't trip on

1249
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 1: the stairs because where the media sits it's probably also

1250
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: pretty dark.

1251
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 3: And it's dark. I couldn't even see those guys last night.

1252
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 3: I mean, you gotta be careful.

1253
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 5: It is a little dark. I got I got this

1254
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 5: trusty flashlight on my phone which will get me where

1255
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 5: I need to go. So did you ever come to

1256
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 5: be I'm gonna watch shread lightly.

1257
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 2: Did you ever cover a game at the four for them?

1258
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 5: I never did know it was Staples. So by the

1259
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 5: time I.

1260
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: Got around, what was interesting there was, you know, back

1261
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 1: in those days, they had the media in pretty good seats.

1262
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 1: It was up a little higher, but it was lower level,

1263
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: but up a number of stairs, and it was dark

1264
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: and to the point where you're then at each spot

1265
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 1: in the rows of media seats you had these almost

1266
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: little old fashioned you know, like desk lamp lights from

1267
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 1: like nineteen right right, really nineteen thirties, and so even

1268
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 1: there it looked they made an effort to okay, we

1269
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 1: still want the dark look. You know, it was a

1270
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 1: very noirsh kind of a look. But I do remember

1271
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 1: tripping one or two times on the stairs going up, man,

1272
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 1: because they they were serious about keeping it pretty dark.

1273
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: They didn't they did not worry about lawsuits back in

1274
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 1: those days.

1275
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 5: Apparently, no, no, Jerry Buss would just carry you off

1276
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 5: in the desert you needed it. But man, I would

1277
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 5: have tripped over everything to get there and see and

1278
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 5: watch those games with showtime'sing that building going crazy. Man,

1279
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 5: what an experience.

1280
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 1: Thanks as always, We appreciate the time. Congratulations on the

1281
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 1: contract extension and we'll.

1282
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 2: Talk next week.

1283
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 5: Great, thanks, dam appreciate it.

1284
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: Johnny Athletic with big news his second, I think maybe

1285
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 1: third contract with the Athletics long term.

1286
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 2: You know what I forgot. The guardsy, guardsy ask him

1287
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 2: what his buyout is?

1288
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 1: Do we know what is on his new contract, what

1289
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 1: the buyout might be, because again, maybe another media outlet

1290
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: comes along and says we want to buy his butt out.

1291
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 2: How costly will it be to buy him out?

1292
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 3: That's the question, he says, a little less than Brian Kelly,

1293
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 3: not a lot less, not much, a little less, a

1294
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 3: little less.

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Speaker 1: Clayton writes that the guy Johnny ran out of town

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01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 1: had a single double last night, Luca Garza two points,

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01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 1: two boards and one assist.

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01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 2: Is he playing much for the Celtics.

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01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 3: I have not watched.

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01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 2: That would indicate maybe not so much.

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01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 3: Not sure. I think they're winless early again. I think

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01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 3: they've only played maybe two games. Maybe they routed the coaches,

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01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 3: routed the media in a scrimmage like two weeks ago, publicized.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was like was the final score like

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01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 3: fifty eight to two?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Literally, I think it was fifty seven to four.

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Speaker 1: It was fifty seven four. I thought they only scored

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01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 1: one basket. Maybe it was whatever it was, it was

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01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: a it was a route. They apparently wanted to make

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01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 1: their make their point, and they did. I'm not sure

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01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 1: what the point of that is. And that was without

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01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 1: I don't even think Scalabrini participated in it. Cassell didn't either,

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01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 1: Is that right? Cassell's part of that staff. Is it

1321
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 1: because he was bored with it or because he just

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01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 1: wasn't interested or I think he's.

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01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 3: Still nursing his Western Conference Finals injury from two thousand

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01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 3: and four.

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01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 2: So if I can, I guess.

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01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 1: Distill the fear and loathing the morose meter regarding which

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01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 1: teams who have had just miserable extended weekends we should

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01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 1: be most concerned about moving forward as being perhaps incapable

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01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: of getting out of the morass of their morosity.

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01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 3: There seemed to be a growing sentiment that the Vikings

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01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 3: might be that team.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, I think the assumption is you look

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01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 1: at the Gopher football schedule and you say, well, they're

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01:05:57,600 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 1: going to win.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they got some inviting games. Head is the

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01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 3: Wisconsin game here or there? It's here?

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Speaker 2: Tier.

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Speaker 3: Does anybody know how why Wisconsin seemed to play Oregon

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01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 3: tough for a half They've had they have a good defense, Okay,

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01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 3: there's defense. They just can't score. Tried their best all

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01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,959
Speaker 3: season long. I've watched a lot of them, and they've

1342
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 3: hung around a long time against a lot of different teams.

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01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 3: They just can't do anything. Offensively. They've been in and

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01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 3: out of quarterback issues, injuries. They just can't do anything

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01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 3: on offense, all right.

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01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 1: So you look at the Gopher schedule the rest of

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01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 1: the way, you know it, well, it's, uh, we're hosting

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01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 1: Michigan State Saturday at two thirty. Then we got to

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01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 1: go to Oregon after a bye, right, and that's not

1350
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 1: going to be easy. But then you have two more

1351
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 1: certainly winnable games afterwards. You're at Northwestern. Northwestern's plucky. That's

1352
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: not an automatic win. They hung with Nebraska Saturday. It's winnable,

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01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 1: that's it Wrigley, and then you're hosting Wisconsin. So I

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01:06:58,000 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 1: think on this on the base of the schedule alone,

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01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 1: as disappointing as the no show was at Iowa City,

1356
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 1: you go, you're not going to fall off the end

1357
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 1: of a table. You're gonna probably end up with the

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01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 1: requisite you have a chance to still end up with

1359
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 1: eight victories. Then comparatively speaking, you look and it's really,

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01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 1: in the case of the Wolves, it's way too early

1361
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 1: to go into too much of a panic mode. Even

1362
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 1: if it's not helpful that Anthony Edwards is out for

1363
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks and the defense does not look

1364
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 1: all that committed at least thus far. Case of the

1365
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 1: Wild may be a little more concerning because they've played

1366
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 1: more games. They just came off of five game homes

1367
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 1: a road trip in which they garnered three points out

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01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 1: of a possible ten. How many games have we put

1369
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 1: on this homestand since we got back two and we

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01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 1: got a point, we lost one game, we got one

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01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 1: point out of a possible four.

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01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 2: So far there, right, so it ain't looking good.

1373
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 3: And we already have a captain's meeting with Bill Gann,

1374
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 3: which is a little scary, a couple of phone calls,

1375
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 3: a couple of phone calls with the head coach and

1376
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 3: some other players.

1377
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 2: Presumably we're gonna get healthier there.

1378
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 1: Then, in the case of the Vikings, I think it's

1379
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 1: what has happened in the last two weeks. We've gotten

1380
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: throttled by two legitimate teams in a row, right Philly.

1381
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 1: Now we only lost by six, but it was a

1382
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 1: home game and Philly seemed to be in control. And

1383
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 1: then we go to La and we get just destroyed

1384
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 1: by I think at Jim Harbaugh, who definitely liked what

1385
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 1: he did in this game for sure, to knock off

1386
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 1: the team he might have coached the Vikings by twenty seven,

1387
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 1: and then you say, well, what do we got coming up? Well,

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01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 1: we got at Detroit this coming Sunday. At Detroit. I'm

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01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 1: not going to say you can't win, but that's going

1390
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 1: to be a challenge. Then you've got Baltimore here, and

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01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 1: by then it's very likely that their core number one

1392
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 1: quarterback will be back. Right then you do have the

1393
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 1: Bears here, but then you got to go to Green

1394
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 1: Bay and Seattle back to back after that. So I

1395
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 1: think for some people the morose meter is higher for

1396
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 1: the Vikings a because it did look like a total

1397
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 1: systems failure against the Chargers, where you have a feeling

1398
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 1: that either our defensive personnel isn't up to snuff, or

1399
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 1: maybe there are offensive coaches and quarterbacks at least the

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01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: good ones who've kind of figured out how to handle

1401
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 1: the b flow madness and insanity, and you know, everything

1402
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:25,639
Speaker 1: looks like it's disguised and you don't know what's coming,

1403
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 1: et cetera. It's that it's you're now asking a rookie,

1404
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 1: well second year quarterback who might as well be a

1405
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 1: rookie who's played as little as he has. You're throwing

1406
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 1: him into the middle of mix at a point where

1407
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 1: you still have an unsettled offensive line, right, that's still unsettled, yep.

1408
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 1: And you have a schedule where you say, well, I mean,

1409
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 1: look at the teams again. Now, Baltimore's records not very good,

1410
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 1: but I think most people still view them as dangerous.

1411
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 1: If Lamar Jackson is playing correct, at the least should

1412
01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 1: and then you've got you've got maybe the Bears are

1413
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 1: are you know, a relatively easy one on the sixteenth

1414
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 1: of November, But then you got the two game road

1415
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 1: trip Green Bay in Seattle. So let's let's let's play

1416
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 1: this out. We're not favored against the Lions, no, So

1417
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 1: if we lose that game or what three and five?

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01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 2: Yep, Baltimore, will we be favored?

1419
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 3: Probably not.

1420
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 2: We might be no, you know what, we weren't originally.

1421
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 2: You're right, But I don't know.

1422
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 3: And especially if we lose this week and we're coming

1423
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 3: home and JJ doesn't play well on Lamar's back, I

1424
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 3: would think the Ravens will be favored. I'm gonna I'm

1425
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 3: gonna give us that game. So let's say we split

1426
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 3: the next two.

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01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,600
Speaker 1: Then we're at four and five, right, we beat the

1428
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 1: Bears five and five, then at green Bay, loss at Seattle,

1429
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 1: and we're then we're sitting twelve games in at five

1430
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 1: and seven. Yeah, and that's where you start going, where

1431
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 1: is this really? You're you're you're you're out of the

1432
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 1: division race, probably already. But then you start looking at

1433
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 1: the team stacking up just in the conference, and you go, well,

1434
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 1: where are we going with this thing?

1435
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 3: Now?

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01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 1: You've got Washington here, then you're at Dallas, then you're

1437
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 1: at New York Giants. Although even the Giant I don't

1438
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:02,640
Speaker 1: think her as awful as it looks like they got

1439
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 1: a quarterback who might you know, give them a little

1440
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 1: juice at least. And then you finish with home games

1441
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 1: against Detroit and Green Bay. So I did mention on

1442
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 1: Sunday we should break soon, by the way, Oh good

1443
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,640
Speaker 1: point the quarterback, you can argue, even if you have

1444
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 1: other problems and it's a total system failure. That is

1445
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 1: the one position where if you get something captured, something

1446
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 1: positive going, where you go, whoa, we're seeing what they

1447
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 1: like about this guy? You can suddenly feel like everything

1448
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:32,680
Speaker 1: else looks better too. Right, It is a position of

1449
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 1: high influence. But is that even fair to that player

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Speaker 1: The sun is setting over Hurricane Melissa with wins of

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Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy five miles per hour. It turns

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Speaker 1: north and moves over Jamaica tomorrow. Catastrophic, life threatening flash

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01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 1: destructive wins may cause total structural failure, particularly in higher elevations,

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1461
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 1: who is a MS certified is online a lot that one.

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01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 1: They're watching very closely. It looks like it is, indeed, yeah,

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01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 1: gonna be messy, a very messy situation. So we hope

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01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 1: the folks in Jamaica are able to deal with that.

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01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 1: I'm already seen some stuff on the fringes there indicating

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01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 1: that it could be a fairly rough ride. I want

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01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 1: to thank our special guest today that includes Adam Thielen.

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01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 1: At three point thirty Ben Lieber at four forty seven

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01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 1: and Johnny Athletic at about five thirty five or so.

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01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 1: Vikings Rewind is going to wrap follow us tonight and

1471
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 1: then it is Wolves basketball, second night of a back

1472
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 1: to back. Man softly early in the season for me

1473
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 1: to buy that as an excuse if you lose, more

1474
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:09,679
Speaker 1: likely we're not at full strength.

1475
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 2: I think the Nuggets are pretty much.

1476
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, they are a better They have better pieces around

1477
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 3: one of the best players in basketball, if not the

1478
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:21,600
Speaker 3: best player in basketball in Joker. So it will not

1479
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 3: be easy tonight. It will be I will be.

1480
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 1: Curious to see what his You know, the rotations are

1481
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:29,839
Speaker 1: by Chris finch our guy Finchy.

1482
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 3: So that's still the weekend though, if you had tickets

1483
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 3: when the schedule came out, Yeah, for sure. The thirties

1484
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 3: are tough. We know why they happened TV right tonight

1485
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:41,560
Speaker 3: in the Lakers too, and Luca exactly Skinny Luca and

1486
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 3: now ants out and ants out to Yeah, you're right

1487
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 3: that game, that's not what you signed up for.

1488
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 2: No, what we did sign up for will sign up

1489
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 2: for is Louis scheduled to join.

1490
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 3: Us tomorrow in studio again.

1491
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 4: Oh is that right?

1492
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 1: I think yeah, and Kevin Seffert will join I hope

1493
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 1: in studio, but he will. There'll be plenty of good

1494
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 1: Viking spodder to get to, including the fallout to the

1495
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz news apparently now official surgery, and of course

1496
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 1: he is shut down for the rest of the twenty

1497
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 1: twenty five seasons. So I want to find out if

1498
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 1: we're going to go out and get another veteran quarterback,

1499
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 1: and could it be Russell Wilson.

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01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 2: He's available. Giants are bored with him at this point.

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01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 3: No truth to the rumor that when Koc found out

1502
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 3: about the surgery he said, but he can play Sunday, right,

1503
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 3: We didn't hear that is Brosemor officially the backup or

1504
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 3: not why he was on Thursday. Okay, yeah, but now

1505
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 3: it's for real. Now things are about to get real.

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01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 3: Let them see the field man. That's it.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for watching, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: For listening, and enjoy Wolve's action tonight. After a quick

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Speaker 1: look at what we like to call Vikings rewind, we'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Three