1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: Dave's not he's not here, but he is going to 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: join us at three thirty day, Okay, checking with Dave 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: yesterday we talked about it a bit with the the 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: news of Doug mo passing and and we we had 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: Nick Cosmotern and you know, you and I we don't 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: we don't know Doug all that well, but Dave definitely 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: knows Doug very well. So I had a lot of 8 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: people texting in asking about it, and of course he's 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: on vacation, but he's kind enough to give us a 10 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: few minutes. 11 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: And I'm very excited to talk to him coming up 12 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 2: here at three thirty. 13 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: Obviously at worst wish under a different circumstances, but still 14 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: good to check in with him. 15 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: How are you, man? 16 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 3: You know, I feel great championship status, like you know, 17 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 3: just came on. Yeah huge ws you know, not one 18 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 3: in five like my colleague here, but one in one. 19 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 2: Oh you guys talked about myrak, Yeah we did? 20 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 4: You know? 21 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: We started this h the competition there on Mandy Show, 22 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: and I had actually won like two in a row, 23 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: but then we started it, and so you know, it 24 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 1: is what it is. I I don't I don't a 25 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: friend about it. Because I'll get on a hot streak 26 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: and I'll win a few in a row and then 27 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: and then, you know, the numbers look better. But it's 28 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: important to me, and I appreciate that Anthony points this out, 29 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: who produces that show and does a wonderful job on 30 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,839 Speaker 1: our social media as well, that there are some people 31 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: that don't have wins at all, and at least I'm 32 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 1: not nast category. I got the dub. I got a dub. 33 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: And then there's been all Bright, who's going too. 34 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that's tough. 35 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 1: Yeah right, Like like I his family probably doesn't really want. 36 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: To talk to him until he finally gets off, you know, 37 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 2: the schneid here. 38 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 5: So definitely been Harry Potter. 39 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: Harry Potter under the cupboard. You've got to be kidding me. 40 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 5: You definitely got Harry Potter for not winning. That's that's 41 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 5: what happens. 42 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: Are you a Potter guy? 43 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 5: I'm definitely a Potter. That's what we call ourselves. 44 00:01:55,120 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 2: We got that audio, that's what we ourselves. All right, cool, 45 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: excited about the new series coming out. 46 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm a I'm a more of a 47 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 3: traditionalist and it comes Harry Potter, but I will give 48 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: it a. 49 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: Shot as long as the episodes are in an hour 50 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: long on HBO, so probably will be an hour long. 51 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: Just be prepared. 52 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 3: But okay for Harry Potter though, And this is what 53 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 3: I could do. I could go, you know, forty minutes, 54 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 3: go take a break, you know, go walk around the 55 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 3: neighborhood and come back and watch another. 56 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 2: Twenty Okay, yeah, you get up a stretch. 57 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 5: It makes it seem like I'm active, but I'm really nice. 58 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 2: I understand to not understand. Well, you know, you only 59 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: have so much time. 60 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 4: Now. 61 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:31,839 Speaker 2: This might be something you watch with the kids though. 62 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, so like my oldest, like my oldest is loves 63 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 3: Harry Potter now, and then my ten year old loves 64 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 3: Harry Potter. 65 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 4: Now. 66 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 3: It's time to get the seven year old and the 67 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 3: five year old whip him into shape. But we'll see 68 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 3: how that goes. 69 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: We will keep you guys updated on and I'm proud 70 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: of for that. 71 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 5: We'll keep you. 72 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: Guys updated on US hockey, US men's hockey. Right now, 73 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: they are up one nothing in their matchup here against Sweden, 74 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: So go US and if they win, they win this game. 75 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: It looks like if they're from the reseed and make sure, 76 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: I get this right. I think they're gona play Finland, 77 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: who's the four seed. The three seed earlier today ended 78 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: up being Slovlakia, So they're gonna play Canada, who, by 79 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,119 Speaker 1: the way, eked out an overtime win. 80 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 3: Man. 81 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: I tell you what, there's a little bit of a 82 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: dueling mindset I had. 83 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 2: For a second there. 84 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: We have a lot of football stuff to get too 85 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: as well, So I'm gonna get to that in a second. 86 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:31,119 Speaker 1: Because there's so many avs on team Canada that there's 87 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: a moment you're like, hey, wouldn't it be great if 88 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: they lost and we get all our ads back and 89 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: they're all healthy and then good to go. 90 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: Because what matters to us here locally is that Nathan. 91 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: McKinnon, Cale mccarr, et cetera are all back here safely 92 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: in Denver, ready to go compete for a cup. 93 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: That's what matters. 94 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: But then the other side of me, the competitive side 95 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: of me, really wants to see US versus Canada. I'm 96 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: very excited about this in a championship gold medal matchup. 97 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: I think these guys what they care about is winning 98 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 3: gold for their country right now. That's what's most important 99 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: on us first Canada for the goal that Canada team 100 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 3: looks ridiculously scary, but that they squeaked out a win 101 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 3: today though, you know that's going to bring them even 102 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 3: closer together than they already are. But you know, I 103 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 3: have a feeling. I just feel like the US is 104 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 3: going to find a way every game get a little 105 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 3: bit better and then by the finals. 106 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 5: You know, do you believe in miracles? 107 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if we're like miracle on ice here 108 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: with like versus Russia, but because like. 109 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 3: Not like obviously Russia, but this Canadian team is loaded. 110 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: That's very good. But this isn't. 111 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: This isn't David and Goliath, like like US beating Canada 112 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: is a big deal, but it's not. 113 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 2: It's not that kind of deal. I understand what you're saying. 114 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 3: Would you put money on it? Do you believe in that? 115 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: You believe in the US team that much? 116 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 2: I think they're gonna win? 117 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 5: Yeah? Absolutely, all right, you want to do a state dinner? 118 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: Wish you were good about on Canada if you. 119 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 5: Want to take it, take Canada. 120 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 2: You heard it here. First Shelby hates the United States. 121 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're gonna get that going around all over the. 122 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta be careful saying that on this station. 123 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: No, I'd say Canada is stacked today. Maybe refocuses them 124 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: a little bit. They probably got a little bit like, hey, we. 125 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 2: Can we can win this game. It's pretty easy. 126 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 5: But it was kind of. 127 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: Cool too because you had Martin Nachius who had the 128 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: assist on the goal ahead goal there for Chechia and 129 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: then later on for a Team Canada it was. 130 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 2: Tapes Tes ended up having the assist. 131 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: So it was cool to see so many ads representing 132 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: in all of this, including of course what we're watching 133 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: here with Team US and they're going up against Gabe 134 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: landscock In. 135 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:42,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, sweet, pretty cool stuff. 136 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 3: No, this is odd is cool, and this is the 137 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 3: one thing I wish football could do. 138 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 5: Right. 139 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 3: We have the opportunity to go win a gold against 140 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 3: the rest of the country and I mean the rest 141 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 3: of the world. And I guess that's what the bigger 142 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 3: issue is. I just need the rest of the world 143 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 3: to play football. 144 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: Well, you guys got the flag football thing coming up, 145 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: real football. 146 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 3: Who did the rest of the world to play real football? 147 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 3: And I'm not even saying, you know, flag football is 148 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 3: not bad, you know what I mean at all? Like 149 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 3: I love watching Like when we were watching the the 150 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 3: you know, the games for the NFL, the Pro Bowl games, whatever. 151 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 3: I loved watching the women's flag football. They looked serious 152 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 3: about it that it was. They're running real plays, real 153 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 3: intensity about it. I just wish, you know, because obviously 154 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 3: when we win the Super Bowl in America, we call 155 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 3: we call ourselves the world champions, but that's really not true. 156 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 3: And I would love an opportunity to really be a. 157 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 2: World champion, understandably. 158 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: And I guess for football players, you probably have to 159 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: almost play something else, which would probably be almost taken 160 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: out of your contract almost immediately, right like, hey, hey, 161 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: you know I like to do track and field. No 162 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: you don't. No, you don't. I like to do swimming. 163 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: Yeah not really, No, you're not a swimmer anymore. We 164 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: pay you, however, millions of dollars to not to do 165 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: that thing. I mean it's in the offseason for example. 166 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: I don't know for your contract specifically, but I know 167 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: other players have had content trikes. No basketball, no skiing. 168 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: Everybody is that everybody's that standard down. 169 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 3: That's what it is. Is pretty much that if you 170 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 3: get hurt doing anything other than football, you could lose 171 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 3: her all. You can lose your guaranteed money, you can 172 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 3: lose all, you know, all of your contract, you can 173 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 3: get cut, and pretty much they can go on with 174 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 3: their day. 175 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 5: Just the juwan juwan. 176 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 3: James yeah, James, yeah, just just like how that happened. 177 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: But he was training though away from the facility. 178 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 3: So the way and this is actually it pisses me 179 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 3: off because technically under NFL rules, there's like thirty days 180 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 3: that were safe the workout and it's at the facility. 181 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 3: Those are the thirty days. He's like of the off 182 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 3: season program that you're safe to workout, But if you're 183 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 3: working out in the off season not in those days 184 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 3: that you get hurt, you could technically lose all your 185 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 3: guaranteed money. 186 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not so how was sposed to be. 187 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 3: Ready for the game? How is it to be ready 188 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: for camp? Unless you want me to come in completely 189 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 3: out of shape and not ready to go. 190 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: It feels like a liability comment, you know, like it 191 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: feels like lawyers, that's what that feels like. It's like, well, 192 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: we can say from a liability standpoint, if you get 193 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: hurt on our property, that's on us. 194 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: But you get hurt somewhere else, we don't. 195 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: We can't guarantee what kind of workout you're doing, whatever 196 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: regimen it is, and then why are we liable for 197 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: it? It just it feels like a cya kind of deal. 198 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: Well just look at it when Klay Thompson a couple 199 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 3: of years ago towards Achilles working out. 200 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 5: Yeah he got that deal. 201 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 3: He got that year and the next year, like you 202 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 3: know what I mean, And every other sport has this 203 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 3: figured out. But football, we get punished either way. If 204 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 3: you don't work out, you get punished. You can get 205 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: back because you're not in shape. If you are working 206 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 3: out and you get hurt, the team could take your 207 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 3: money and now you're over here fighting to make it 208 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 3: back on the team. So it's not a win win 209 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 3: for a sport that you actually really need the grind 210 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,239 Speaker 3: hard during the offseason. 211 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: Well, listen, I'm on your side on this one. You know, 212 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: more times than I it feels like we are adversarial 213 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: when it comes to I come across as I'm on 214 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: the side of the teams and you know, the organizations 215 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: and the franchises. But in this case, it doesn't seem right. 216 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: I just don't know what the fix is. Does that 217 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: make sense, like, I don't like what what would be 218 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: your suggestion, you work for the PA, what would be 219 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: your suggestion to make that more equitable, more fair? 220 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 3: Well, the least you could do is protect us if 221 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 3: you're working out to be ready. 222 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 5: For the next year. Okay, if it's just the workout 223 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 5: and we're. 224 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 3: Just working out, you know, in the weight room or 225 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 3: doing sprints, there's no way that we should see any 226 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 3: blowback or anything negative if we got hurt from me. 227 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: But how can how can the organization who's paying millions 228 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: of dollars guarantee you're doing the right thing, all right? 229 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 5: The organization? 230 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 3: No, Klay Thompson is doing the right thing when he 231 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 3: got hurt? How could how could you ever that's true, 232 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like you would never really know. 233 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 3: So the idea that what we need to walk around 234 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 3: with cameras well, you know, filming us every time and 235 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 3: go work out, which a lot of guys do anyway, 236 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 3: But I just think that there's no way that you 237 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 3: can and expect guys to be in top tier shape 238 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 3: by the time camp comes around if they only worked 239 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 3: out those amount of days that were covered under our CBA. 240 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 3: It just doesn't make any sense. But it's just the 241 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 3: crazy part I guess is that football is the most physical, 242 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 3: you know, demanding sport really we have and we have 243 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 3: the least amount of protections, like not even close. We 244 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 3: have the least amount of protections, the least amount of guarantees. 245 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 3: And it's just it's it's it's it sucks, but it's 246 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 3: something I feel like that we'll get addressed to next CBA. 247 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: We just keep we just keep putting more things into 248 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: the CBA. But then, and this is where I am 249 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: going to go on the other side against you. I 250 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: don't sure, but do you really think that that will be? 251 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 5: This is a big deal for players? All right? 252 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 3: This is a This is a huge deal for players 253 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 3: because it's the simple protections that are needed. Because going 254 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 3: back to the Juwan Jameson and this has kind of 255 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 3: been a big deal since that has happened because the 256 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 3: Broncos took his deal away getting hurt working out, DaShan 257 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 3: Hamilton got hurt working out, you know what I mean. 258 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 3: All these guys are getting cut because they were working out. 259 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 3: They weren't hooping, you know what I mean. They weren't skiing, 260 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 3: they weren't in the snowboarding. They were working out getting 261 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 3: ready for the season. So the least that the NFL 262 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 3: can do is guarantee the protections for that. I understand 263 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 3: playing basketball, I understand going skiing, you know, doing all 264 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 3: that stuff, because you're putting your body, you're putting yourself 265 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 3: at a you know, unneeded risk. But if we're talking 266 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 3: about getting ready for the season, this is something that 267 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 3: needs to get done just so guys can have a 268 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 3: peace of mind. 269 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 5: When I'm going out there running, I'm thinking to. 270 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 3: Myself, can I really run as hard as I can 271 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 3: and transdirection? But if I popped my achilles, it's over, 272 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 3: you know. So that's just the unfair things that we 273 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 3: have to do if during the offseason. 274 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: All right, fair enough, man, fair enough? Well, I hope 275 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: you guys, are you prevail? This is certainly something that 276 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: I feel like every time we have a new CBA 277 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: conversation come up and we talk about, hey, a few 278 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: years from now, we're going to fight like hell for 279 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: these one or two or three or four or five things, 280 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: and then you know, it ends up being one of 281 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: those things that you know, well, I guess we didn't 282 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: really care. 283 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 2: Positive, Okay, I'm trying to be positive. 284 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 5: We're going to make a change. 285 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: All right, let's go. 286 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 3: We're going to make a change. Even though almost half 287 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 3: the guys then vote last time on the CV, We're 288 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 3: going to change that this time. 289 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 2: This time, well I'm. 290 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 3: Not okay, I'll tell you what I'm doing, at least 291 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 3: to change it. Tell me and being in the locker room, 292 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 3: being in the head of our union for the Browns. 293 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 3: I'm the NFLPA lead for the Browns. You know, the 294 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 3: biggest thing that you can do is educate from the 295 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 3: minute get in the league until the minute you walk out. 296 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 3: It's our jobs as NFLPA, as you know, leaders and leads, 297 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 3: to be able to educate the younger players on the 298 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 3: upcoming fight. You know. And I'm a big believer if 299 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 3: baseball can get all the guys behind and have lockouts 300 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 3: and do things and really get things done, then you 301 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 3: have to start right when the guys get in the 302 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 3: league and put it in their head of how important 303 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 3: it is to be a part of our union and 304 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 3: stand together with the guys in the union. 305 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this before we move on. 306 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: Somebody on the text line brought up something that I've 307 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: wanted to see for a while. 308 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 2: As increasing rosters is. 309 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: That something like for players, Is that something that you 310 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: guys actually wants or is that more Because for me, 311 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: first of all, we're talking about things to change, and 312 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 1: I've said this many times, so this isn't new. I 313 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: think that it's very antiquated that we do the game 314 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: day in actives. And I'm probably you've told you this, 315 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: like I fifty three men roster. If you're on the 316 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: fifty three men roster, you're available to play every Sunday, 317 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: like we don't have to do the six guys that 318 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 1: are unavailable. 319 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 2: I think it's just weird. 320 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: But then on top of that, I have advocated for 321 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: expanding rosters, and somebody brought up like, I'd rather see 322 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: that than doing spring leagues or anything like that. And 323 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: I think opportunities to get guys development and opportunities to 324 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: play and all those things or not, nothing's everything wrong 325 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: with that. 326 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 2: But expanding rosters. 327 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: Is that something that other players would be in for 328 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: or do you think that as a non starter anyways, 329 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: because teams are like, why should we pay more players 330 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: to do the same job. 331 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 3: If you think about, you know, expanding the roster, you know, 332 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 3: I think on the positive side, peep is players getting 333 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 3: more players getting jobs. On the negative side, it's a 334 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 3: more deluded pot of players that we have to try 335 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 3: to get under the same you know, under the same page. 336 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 3: And you know, it seems like an easy thing to say, 337 00:14:55,800 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 3: let's expand the roster, and it could, it could help, 338 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 3: but obviously you have to find ways to protect veterans. 339 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 3: So what I mean by that is usually if you're 340 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 3: going to expand rosters, teams are going to fill those 341 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 3: with rookies, you know, And that's not what the whole 342 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 3: point of that is. The whole point is to give 343 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 3: jobs to the guys that can really go out there 344 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 3: and play and are established. But what they're going to 345 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 3: do is try to give it to rookies and young 346 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 3: guys who are cheaper. So the answer necessarily isn't to 347 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 3: expand rosters. Now, if you wanted to tell me to 348 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 3: get rid of the forty you know, the forty six 349 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 3: man game day roster or the forty eight man game 350 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 3: day rosters, I'm fine, we could start with that, because 351 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 3: I agree, what's the point of having a fifty three 352 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 3: man roster and not being able to use all fifty 353 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 3: three exactly, you know, And so I can agree with 354 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 3: that so I think that would be the first step, 355 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 3: because if you expanded rosters, but then expand the game 356 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 3: day rosters, it does nothing because you still I guess 357 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 3: more guys would get their you know, their pin and 358 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 3: get their credited seasons because they could sit on the roster, 359 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 3: but it doesn't actually do anything for the guys that 360 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 3: are playing. So I think the first step would have 361 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 3: to be to get rid of the game day rosters 362 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 3: and just go with a full fifty three and then 363 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 3: you can figure it out from there. 364 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: So you brought up something very interesting there about roster construction, 365 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: and I wanted to ask you about this yesterday, but 366 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: I knew we'd probably get to it today anyways, because 367 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: we were talking about free agency a little bit about 368 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: the expiring contracts and cap casualty conversation stuff, right. 369 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: I was wondering, for a player, if you're on a. 370 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: Current team, do you want your franchise, your organization to 371 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: be aggressive for free agents. Do you guys get more 372 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: excited about the season if you're bringing in a bunch 373 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: of new guys or do you think about it in 374 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: terms of maybe not so much that? And then also 375 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: the other side, like if the load up on draft picks. 376 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: Do you have I guess a little bit apprehension on 377 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: that because those are ostensibly guys coming in potentially to 378 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: take VET jobs. 379 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, they're trying to take our job from the 380 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 3: minute we get into the league. They're trying to replace this. 381 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: But I think that, m yeah, there feels like some 382 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: different layers to it. 383 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think, Well, I would I would. 384 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: Think that if you're a VET player, you'd be more 385 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: excited about a team spending big and free agency and 386 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: bringing in other VET players because you think that it 387 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: really kind of solidifies a very narrow window of that 388 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: we're going in, right, Like the New England Patriots spend 389 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: more than any other team last year and guess what 390 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: the guy in the Super Bowl as a resulted. 391 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 5: That's one of the first times it's worked though. 392 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 2: That's fair and. 393 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 3: Usually when a team spends that much money, you don't 394 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 3: see you don't see it in the record, right, But 395 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 3: the Patriots had a complete one eighty. 396 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: But like, if you're a VET player, and it depends 397 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: on where you're at in that scale, right, So you 398 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: know you're eight nine years into the league, Well, bringing 399 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: in a bunch of young players that are probably going 400 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: to outlive your contract and you may not even play 401 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 1: there long enough. Doesn't really do very much unless it's like, hey, 402 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: we just drafted this quarterback that we all believe it 403 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: at the very top of the draft, and then there's 404 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of an internal excitement about that. 405 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 3: I believe that. You know, as a vedom player, you 406 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 3: get more excited about the free agents that come in 407 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 3: because you know that they're ready to go and they're 408 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 3: ready to play, and the fact that they were free 409 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 3: agents and if they get paid a good amountment that 410 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 3: means there was multiple teams that wanted them, and so 411 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 3: that means right away you have an upgraded position. You 412 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 3: have a guy really ready to go in and play. 413 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 3: You know what you can get. He has NFL experience. Now, 414 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 3: if you go get a rookie, you don't. 415 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 2: Know, you don't know it all, but they could be amazing. 416 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 3: They could be on Carson's Wessinger exactly Carson's anomaly. 417 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: But I mean, he's highly talented. There was a lot 418 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: of people that were like draft people were excited about him. 419 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 3: He was a rookie, and no matter what, if you're 420 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 3: a rookie, there could be an adjustment from the college 421 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 3: to the lead. So the idea that you know, even 422 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 3: if you can even a first round rookie, everyone's still 423 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 3: kind of cautious of what they can do, especially in 424 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 3: the NFL, because the way that there's holes on a 425 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 3: college roster is nothing like an NFL roster where the 426 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 3: guys you have everybody's there for a reason, and everybody's 427 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 3: you know, you're getting the best of the best. Everybody 428 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 3: was the best player in their team, you know, all 429 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 3: Americans and stuff like that. In the NFL roster where 430 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 3: you playing the guys in college, you know, they could 431 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 3: have a real bad death problem at cornerback and the 432 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 3: receiver is going for three hundred on them because they 433 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 3: don't have any corners and no one's coming. 434 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 5: To help, you know. 435 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 3: But but in the NFL, everybody's the best of the best 436 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 3: when you get there. So the idea that you know, 437 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 3: all these rookies are going to come in and just 438 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 3: dominate right away, it doesn't make much sense. And so 439 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 3: that's why you as there's nothing like an established veteran. 440 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 3: But the idea, though, is you do need to fill 441 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 3: your team with the young guys though, so that every 442 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 3: year they're getting better and better, and it kind of 443 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 3: just keeps really just keeps the team afloat. 444 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: That's a great point because it widens your window if 445 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: you have that young depth underneath the surface layer of 446 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: a lot of the vets that you have, right I 447 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: mean understanding that those are the guys you're developing. You know, 448 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: we had a conversation about jadd A Baron, for example, 449 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: and I know there's some Broncos fans that are a 450 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: little frustrated about his usage last year. But the idea 451 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: that you have a starting caliber cornback we don't know, 452 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: but if you do have one, what kind of value 453 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: that can mean for your team for the large for 454 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: a wider window. But again, the Broncos are what they 455 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: view in a narrow couple of year window here where 456 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 1: they think they can really take a run at a 457 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: championship right now, and so that should impact the way 458 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 1: you view roster construction. 459 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 3: But that's also why you're hearing receivers trade talk for 460 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 3: the Broncos and not necessarily receiver draft talk, because the 461 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 3: idea is they're I need to compete right now, They're ready, 462 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 3: you know, their window for Super Bowls open right now, 463 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 3: so they want an established guy to come in here 464 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 3: and make an impact. 465 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 5: On day one. 466 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 2: All right, Rob ROLLI here on a Wednesday, very excited 467 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 2: to be here with you. 468 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: We'll keep you posted on the USA Men's hockey as it. 469 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 2: We're in the third period, a way through the third period. 470 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: When we come back, though, Dave Logan, he's going to 471 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: join us with some thoughts on the passing of Doug Mo. 472 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 2: We'll get to that next. 473 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: Dave, my friend, I hope you are enjoying some much 474 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,239 Speaker 1: deserved time off, my friend, How are you? 475 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? 476 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 4: All good here? Well, it's good to a good catch 477 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 4: up with you. 478 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I mean it certainly was hoping to have 479 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: you on under maybe a few different circumstances. But yesterday 480 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: we were doing the show and we've Chris found out 481 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: the news about Doug Mo passing at eighty seven, a 482 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: lot of people reaching out and asking about you and 483 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: about your relationships, and so I thought it'd be good 484 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: to bring you on and get maybe a little bit 485 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: of information or a couple of stories. So if you 486 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: don't mind sort of sharing what your relationship was like 487 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 1: with Doug and especially covering the nuggets back in the day. 488 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 4: Oh gosh, you know, I first Honestly, when I first 489 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 4: remember Doug, I was I was a kid going down 490 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 4: to the Auditorium Marina and watching as many ABA games 491 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,479 Speaker 4: as I possibly could. And you know, a lot of 492 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 4: Nuggets fans remember Doug as as just a great coach 493 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 4: for the Nuggets, and he was in fact that. But 494 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 4: Doug was really really good player. I mean, he was 495 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 4: a I can't remember how many, but he was his 496 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 4: All League, All Star ABA player more than just one year, six', 497 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 4: five about two, fifteen and so you, know we we 498 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 4: were of similar. SIZE i just remember watching his game 499 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 4: and really appreciating that he WASN'T i wouldn't say he 500 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 4: was overly. Skilled he could shoot, them he was, tough he, 501 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 4: hustled and that was really the first, time the first 502 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 4: time THAT i remember seeing he played With he played 503 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 4: with THE Uh he played with The Oakland, OAKS i, 504 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 4: remember AND i think he Played New orleans as, well 505 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 4: The New Orleans buccaneers back in THE, Aba and that 506 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 4: was a big deal for basketball fans In denver because, 507 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 4: THAT i, mean obviously that preceed of The nuggets when 508 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 4: THE aba and THE nba, merged preceed of The nuggets 509 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 4: going into THE. 510 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: Nba SO i wonder because he's from my understanding AND 511 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 1: i only got a chance to talk to him one 512 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: time as a guest on a radio. Show but, man 513 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,719 Speaker 1: he has such a personality. Too AND i AND i 514 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: know that his time here In, denver post, playing post. 515 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: COACHING i, mean he had a radio show and there 516 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: were there are a lot of people that they really 517 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: had a good time sort of chatting with. Him SO i, 518 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: MEAN i guess do you have any kind of interactions 519 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: or stories with him post playing and post coaching? 520 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 5: Career? 521 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 4: YEAH i think the thing that struck me most About 522 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 4: doug was that that he treated people. Well you, know 523 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 4: he did a radio show With Tom, green and you know, 524 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 4: what he never changed really who he. Was it was 525 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 4: an enjoyable. Show tom sort of drove the, show but 526 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 4: it was an enjoyable show because it Was doug Being. 527 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 4: Doug doug didn't try, to you, know bounce into radio 528 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 4: after his career and then become something that he. Wasn't 529 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 4: he was just you, know he called everybody a stiff 530 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 4: if you liked, you AND i mean he just really 531 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 4: treated help. PEOPLE i mean Ron zipolo was a very 532 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 4: close friend of. HIS i Think Tom, GREEN i have 533 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 4: several friends that were really really close To, doug AND 534 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 4: i got to know him a little. Bit he would 535 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 4: stop out At Big. BILL'S i saw him a couple 536 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 4: of times. There he was great friends With Bill. Vickey 537 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 4: and you, know just what you saw In doug was 538 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 4: exactly when you saw him. Coach his passion for, coaching 539 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 4: that was Who doug was off the court as. Well 540 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 4: AND i, think you, know you have to be of 541 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 4: a certain. Vintage but when you think back to the 542 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 4: eighties and basketball in the city Of, DENVER i MEAN 543 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 4: i think Of Doug. MALL i think of his teams 544 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 4: with Alex english And Keiky vandaway and to this, DAY 545 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 4: i think it's the only team IN nba history that 546 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 4: had the leading score in the league and they had 547 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 4: the second place score in the league on the same. Team, 548 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 4: SO i mean he. Coached he coached pace in. Basketball 549 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 4: he coached getting the ball off the board and pushing 550 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 4: the ball up the. Court AND i just Thought doug 551 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 4: was way ahead of his time in terms of sort 552 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 4: of how he approached especially the offensive end of. 553 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: Basketball, yeah and by the, way you mentioned Ron zappolo 554 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: there And Tom, green AND i want to say Is 555 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: woody as. Well they did a really cool breakdown On 556 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: gorilla that when this news came out yesterday and And ron 557 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: was very, EMOTIONAL. 558 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 2: I thought it WAS i thought it. 559 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: WAS i, mean they do a great show, anyways but 560 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 1: you sort of could tell from that moment like what 561 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: he meant to. Them and you, know it's it's like 562 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: you mentioned a certain, vintage LIKE i, SAID i you, 563 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: know unless you're around this town around that, TIME i 564 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 1: think that's some people that don't have that connection to. 565 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: It but, again just such a, mean a legendary, coach 566 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: first of, all and you saw that by the reaction 567 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: league wide, yesterday but then here, locally it just it 568 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: feels like like he kind of was woven into the 569 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: fabric of this community for so many. 570 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 4: Years, oh there's there's no question about. That and, again you, 571 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 4: Know doug has been sort of out of the limelight 572 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 4: now for for a number of, years and so there 573 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 4: would understandably be there'd be people that would not really 574 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 4: know much About doug and only know in terms of 575 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 4: what they read or what they heard people talk. About 576 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 4: BUT i Mean doug AND i think he was here 577 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 4: AND i may have messed up my years a little, 578 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 4: bit but he was here for most of the decade 579 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 4: of the, eighties The nuggets had great success in THE. 580 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 4: Nba The nuggets in eighty FOUR i remember this Because 581 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 4: i'd just been traded from The browns back to The 582 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 4: broncos and from The nuggets that year wound up going 583 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 4: all the way to The Western Conference, finals AND i, 584 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 4: think say for a couple of key, Injuries Alex english got, 585 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 4: HURT i Think calvin nat got, hurt maybe Even Fat 586 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 4: leaver as, well and they wind up losing to The 587 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 4: lakers four games to. One lakers went on and beat 588 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 4: The celtics that year THE nba championship. SEASON i think 589 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 4: that was as close until The Nikole jokic sort of. 590 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 4: ERA i think that was as close as The nuggets 591 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 4: were ever to winning the. Championship that team in eighty 592 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 4: four and eighty, five and they won more than FIFTY 593 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 4: i can't remember how many in the regular, season but 594 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 4: that that, team coached By doug MO i thought was 595 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 4: good enough to win AN nba. Championship they just had 596 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 4: a bunch of injuries at an inopportune time of the. 597 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: Year by the, Wait, dave just let you, KNOW usa 598 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: men's hockey just won and overtime Over. Sweden so that's pretty, Awesome. Mas, yeah, 599 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: yeah have you been Following. OLYMPICS i mean, again you're on. 600 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: VACATION i don't know if you completely unplugged from, everything 601 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: But i've been watching quite a bit of The olympic Stress. 602 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 5: Dave's has been sitting. Around you know. 603 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 4: What it's it's a little bit of a forced unplugged 604 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 4: if you know. WHAT i know WHAT i. Mean they 605 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 4: don't they don't really concentrate too much on on The 606 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 4: olympics down. Here they're they're they're talking about the beach. 607 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 4: Sports so, no BUT i think THAT'S i try to 608 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 4: watch it a little. BIT i think that's. Awesome, yeah it's. 609 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,959 Speaker 1: Great, yeah well they're on the semi finals and uh, 610 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: yeah it looks LIKE i, Mean canada survived an overtime 611 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: win today as, well so we're we seem to be 612 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: on pace here For canada VERSUS. Usa dave for the 613 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: gold which is going to be really, tremendous you know. 614 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 4: What AND i am surrounded by a bunch Of, canadians 615 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 4: not literally right, now but for most of most of 616 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 4: the days down, Here SO i AM i am prepared 617 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 4: to THE usa Beat. 618 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 5: Canada are you. 619 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: Gonna be are there you gonna go like FULL usa 620 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: if we, Go if we GO usa Versus, canada are 621 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: you gonna GO? 622 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 2: Usa face? 623 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 4: Paint i'm going to go Ugly american for sure on These, 624 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 4: canadians because they are they are quite ready and able 625 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 4: to tell me all about How, listen there are Some 626 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 4: canadians right, now and they say it sort of in 627 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 4: a kiddingly, way but they really don't care too much 628 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 4: For america and for whatever the, reason for whatever the 629 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 4: reason for the. Reason, uh AND i just, LISTEN i 630 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 4: give it to. HIM i, MEAN i give it right 631 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 4: back to. HIM i MEAN i. DO i give it 632 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 4: right back to. THEM i stir my, drink take a 633 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 4: swig and tell them WHAT i think at. 634 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: ALL i know that this is only gonna ramp things, Up, 635 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: dave if we if we get to the gold medal 636 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: round and IT'S us a Versus, canada which is what everybody, 637 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: wants it's it's only gonna ramp it. 638 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 4: Up, yeah, listen you already know ready to. 639 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 2: GO i know you. 640 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: WILL i know you, Will. Dave you're the best appreciated man. 641 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: AGAIN i know it, cerifaication but we definitely wanted to 642 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: get you on and get your thoughts on, This so 643 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: thank you so much. 644 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 2: Man, Guys, yeah appreciate. It that is, Uh Dave logan 645 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 2: always kid. 646 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: For a moment here and coming up at the top 647 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: of the, hour we're gonna we're gonna try to move 648 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: on From Nathaniel hackett and we're gonna take the high. 649 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 2: Road i'll explain that in a. 650 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: Second but The browns that you're very familiar, With shelby 651 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: we found out moments. Ago whytt tell her announcing On? 652 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: Instagram LOVE i love this era that we're in where 653 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: players just announced. This i'm not coming. Back i'm going somewhere. 654 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: Else i'm done with. This The browns entire starting offensive 655 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: line is set. 656 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 2: To be free agents this, year and the. 657 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: Entire offensive Line Cam, Robinson Joel, Patonio Ethan, Pocice Wyatt, 658 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: teller And Jack. 659 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 2: Conklin, YEAH i, know what is? That what Is i've 660 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 2: never seen anything like? 661 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 3: This, YEAH i would imagine you. HAVE i Think Dewan 662 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 3: jones was the, starter and he got hurt like week 663 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 3: two of week, three, right so you can imagine imagine he'll, 664 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 3: yeah imagine he'll slid in there, somewhere AND i would 665 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 3: imagine they would resign. 666 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 5: Somewhat. 667 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, No so If Dewan jones won and THEN i, 668 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 3: SAY i think they're going to. RESIGN i don't know 669 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 3: if It's joel Maybe Tevin, jenkins the backup that was 670 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 3: kind of switching in last. 671 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 5: Year but this is unchied. Territory, yeah by, FIVE. 672 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 3: I Think i've seen three starters at most kind of flipped, 673 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 3: out But i've never seen all five be brand. 674 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: New one of the things that we talked about a 675 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: lot With Sean payton and roster. Construction we were talking 676 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: about it a little bit, earlier but specifically for The 677 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: broncos is he wanted to build the trenches right that 678 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: was when he got. Here first two moves were on offensive, 679 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: line well two of the first three because he also 680 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: signed a quarterback In Cherish, sinham but two, moves two 681 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: primary moves were offensive, line and then he went to 682 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: the defensive line and Bron Zach allen and they continue 683 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: to add obviously the very next year WITH, jfm they've 684 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: upped a lot of these. Guys Malcolm roach they brought 685 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: in and they've given him an. Extension they have they've 686 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: invested in that the offensive. Line they've keep paying all 687 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: those Guys Quinn miners on a, Contract gearaballs under contract 688 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: are center under contract spacing his name for a, second 689 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: But i'll get. There mike McGlinchey under. Contract, Right so 690 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: you have all these guys that are that are are locked, 691 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: up and here you have a team With Cleveland browns 692 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: who are doing the opposite of. 693 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 2: That make it makes? 694 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 3: Sense, yeah starting Over And i'm not necessarily surprised because 695 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 3: that was. 696 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 5: A struggle part last. 697 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 3: Year Wattenberg, sorry, Yeah Luke Luke wattenberg was the, center 698 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 3: but that was that was a part area of struggle last. 699 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 3: Year and you, know we had a lot of injuries, 700 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 3: there so and it's a lot in a couple older, 701 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 3: guys and so eventually you got to assume that they're 702 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 3: going to at least add a young guy in here or, 703 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 3: there maybe sign a couple of. People but, YEAH i 704 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 3: just think it's unheard of for a whole old line 705 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 3: to kind of, go you, know go into a season 706 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 3: and then the next year have five completely new. Starters 707 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 3: that's a lot of chemistry that you're going to have 708 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 3: to make. Up and it's that's that's the tough part 709 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 3: about THE. Nfl you just can't replace whole. Lines so 710 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 3: we'll see what they. Do i'm sure a couple of 711 00:33:59,240 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 3: people will be. 712 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: BACK i, Mean Juan jones a big. Guy he's a 713 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,239 Speaker 1: very big. Human BUT i don't know if he's like 714 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: five men. Big, yeah he probably two exactly TWO i could. 715 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 5: Do he could play center And. 716 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: GUARDEN i saw him at the combine and it JUST 717 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: i don't, know, man that is that some people are 718 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: legitimately built. 719 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 3: Different, well he's a big, dude and he has good, feet, 720 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 3: yes he actually. Has you, know he was a basketball, Player, 721 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 3: yeah and that was his first. Love, so you, know 722 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,720 Speaker 3: especially being From, indianapolis you know that's huge basketball. City 723 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 3: you guys are going there what next? 724 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 2: Week? 725 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 3: Yeah SO i, think you, know being sixty eight three point, 726 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 3: fifty being able to move like, that you, know that's 727 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 3: why The browns have been so high on him because 728 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 3: they see the. Potential but obviously he has to stay 729 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 3: healthy and we'll see what else they. Have BUT i would, 730 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 3: assume you, know we obviously the same five starters are going. 731 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 3: OUT i would assume a young guy behind him might 732 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 3: have an opportunity to step in and play. Too and 733 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 3: you don't let people go necessarily if you don't believe 734 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 3: in the people behind them. 735 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: Too All, right we'll come. Back we're taking the high 736 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: road as a show. OFFICIALLY i hope we'll get to 737 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: the next