1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,680 Speaker 1: Where we go. 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:06,159 Speaker 2: The big story obviously to Mont Williams last night, deciding 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: that he didn't want to be a Husky anymore. He's 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 2: going to put his name on the transfer portal with 5 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: a no contact designation and everything. Everybody came unglued last night. 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 2: Social media, man everything, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, the text line here. 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 2: We were off the air and the text line was 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: blowing up last night with people sharing their thoughts on 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: DeMont Williams. And I will just say this that I 10 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: am not as livid as I was last night because 11 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: time heels all wounds. I was hot last night, as 12 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: you guys know, you know that you were sitting right 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: next to me. I'm still really, really disgusted with Demond. 14 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: I'm disgusted with his family. I'm disgusted with his representation. 15 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: I'm disgusted with college football. I'm disgusted with the entity. 16 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: I'm disgusted with the lack of structure, the lack of oversight. 17 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: All of it discussed me. And I don't look to something, 18 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: by the way Dick to be disgusted. I look to 19 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: something to either be satisfied or inspired, And right now 20 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 2: there's nothing about college football personally for me that is 21 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 2: making me inspired nor satisfied. So when people say things 22 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 2: like I'm done, I'm out. First of all, you never 23 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 2: know how long that lasts. Of course, I got a 24 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 2: text from a buddy this morning who said he canceled 25 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: the season tickets after twenty five years. Donor is talking 26 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: to me about we're not giving a cent to the program. 27 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 2: Why should we give money to a program when all 28 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: we're going to do is train a guy to be 29 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: a good college football player, and then somebody else gets 30 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 2: to bear the fruit of my labor as an investor. 31 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: So I understand all of it. I really do. I'm 32 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 2: just saying this right now for Washington Football and for 33 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: any other college football team that I would ever, potentially 34 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: ever ever ever root for. And I said this to 35 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: you last night, and I'll say it again this evening. 36 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: I am looking at every year now as a one 37 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: year entity. One year deal, all right, when September starts, 38 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: got my loyalty for four months until the season's over, 39 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: and then when the year's done, you got to show 40 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: that you deserve it again. 41 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: That's it. 42 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: Coaches and players included, I am done, Dick and Jackson 43 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: with looking ahead to next year, I'm done relying on 44 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 2: anybody to come back. I am done talking about the future. 45 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: The only thing that matters to me, Dick Fane and 46 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: college football is today. 47 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 3: That's it. 48 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 4: I could not have said it any better. I one 49 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 4: hundred percent agree with you. I think that's the only 50 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 4: way that college football fans can look at their football 51 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 4: team these days is as a. 52 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 3: One year at a time entity. 53 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 4: And I'm actually seeing this as an opportunity, an opportunity 54 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 4: not only for Washington to go out there and get 55 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 4: a really good quarterback, because there are really, really well 56 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 4: known quarterbacks that would be available for Washington. We've talked 57 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 4: about the Levitts Noah Flafidas built boat Prebulas. They're not 58 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 4: going to have some turred under center in September. I 59 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 4: firmly believe that they are going to come up with 60 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 4: a I'm not going to say right here that it's 61 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 4: gonna be as good or better than Damon Williams, but 62 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 4: they're gonna come up with a reasonable replacement for Damon Williams. 63 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 4: And I'm still very optimistic about this football team next year. 64 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 4: I'm also looking at as an opportunity for college football 65 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 4: in general. Sometimes you need a spark. Remember the pass 66 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 4: interference that wasn't called in the Rams Saints game, right, 67 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 4: and that all that was the spark, like, oh my god, 68 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 4: we got to review pass interference. Now, it didn't last forever, Dick. 69 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 4: But yes, how about Phil Luckett? 70 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 3: Phil Luckett? Are you kidding? Absolutely? Seahawks Jets. Yes, that 71 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 3: inspired instant Rea can replay. You're exactly right. 72 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 4: So sometimes you need a situation that is so ridiculous 73 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 4: that everybody gets together and says, now, wait a second, 74 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 4: this dude had a freaking contract he signed for. This 75 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 4: is unlike anything we've ever seen before. We have to 76 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 4: get together and do something about it. And maybe Demon 77 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 4: Williams God b less you is the spark to get 78 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 4: this start. 79 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. Maybe I don't know. 80 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm skeptical because I'm not sure if college 81 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: football really gives a damn. To be honest with you, 82 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 2: I'm not even sure if the SEC really gives a damn. Right, 83 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: I mean, why would they want to cut off an 84 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,119 Speaker 2: avenue to make their own football teams better? Because you 85 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: just mentioned something that's interesting to me and you said 86 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: the word available. There's a lot of quarterbacks available. Well, 87 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 2: apparently everybody's available. 88 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 4: Well, I would not go, I've got to imagine there's 89 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 4: a lot of quarterbacks that have not signed their deals 90 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 4: for twenty twenty such all those are. 91 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: Available, I would not because are the guys that have signed. 92 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 4: Their r I as Washington, I would not go poach 93 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 4: a player that has already signed their nil. 94 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 3: Because why not because you're the moral ground. 95 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 4: Well, because you're you're trying to get litigation from the 96 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 4: quarterback and the school that's going to steal your quarterback. 97 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 4: You would be put under the same scrutiny in litigation 98 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 4: if you were to do the same Who cares? 99 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 3: Who gives a damn? Why do I give a damn? 100 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 2: So honestly, I mean, guys, I mean if this is 101 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: this is the conversation that we have had for many, many, 102 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: many many on this radio station about the non conference schedule. Well, 103 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: if the SEC is playing cupcakes for three four weeks 104 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 2: a year, how come I'm playing Ohio State and Michigan 105 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: and Nebraska in September? Why should I be the freaking 106 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: guinea pig. Because it's the right thing to do, and 107 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 2: it might be the right thing to do to back 108 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: off with somebody else's quarterback, Dick, but I am sick. 109 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 3: And effing tired of doing the right thing. I'm tired 110 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 3: of it, man. 111 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: And if they if every other program in college football 112 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: is not going to play by the same rules, why 113 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 2: should I? 114 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 3: Why should I be the guinea pig? 115 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 2: Why should I be the guy sitting back when the 116 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: smoke clear is saying I did the right thing. 117 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 3: Meantime, my team is five and seven and I'm out 118 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 3: of a job. Who gives a crap. 119 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: There are no standards in college football left, there are 120 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: no morals in college football, and there are no principles 121 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 2: in college football. So maybe the more and more and 122 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: more and more and more this happens, the better. The 123 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 2: odds are that what you talked about actually takes place. 124 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: So what I want Jedfish to do is twofold Number one. 125 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: I want Jetfish to make demand Williams and his camp 126 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: and his parents and his family hold to the deal 127 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 2: that he signed, and if he doesn't, I want to 128 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: soothe their asses into oblivion. 129 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 3: I want compensation. 130 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 2: I want to make his life in the meantime miserable 131 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 2: whatever he had planned. I want to blow that whole 132 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: thing up. I don't want to make sure that Washington 133 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 2: gets what they're owed. Number two I want Jedfish to 134 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: do whatever he needs to do. I don't care how 135 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 2: to make this football team better and the story. I'm 136 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 2: done being the good guy. I'm done being the nice guy. 137 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: Every college football fan should feel the same. You're done 138 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 2: being the nice guy. You're done being the good guy. 139 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: If there's gonna be no governance, there's gonna be no 140 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 2: oversight whatsoever, go out and make your football team better. 141 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 2: And who cares what people think. That's where I'm coming 142 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 2: from right now. So listen, we're gonna talk a lot 143 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 2: about this tick today. Rick Neuheizel will join us. Next segment, 144 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: Petros at four, Let's get to Mike Florio right now. 145 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: It's time for a weekly conversation with Pro Football Talks 146 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: Mike Florio, brought to you by Simply Seattle. Tired of 147 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: buying and repping the same old Seattle sports gear everyone 148 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: else has. For the best Storm, Seahawks, Mariners, Kraken, Rainiers, Sounders, 149 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: and not to mention, the largest Sonics collection in the world, 150 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: check out simply Sattle dot com. 151 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: Now with Mike Florio. He's Softian Dick all right here. 152 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: He is our friend from Pro Football Talk dot Com. 153 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: The NFL on NBCPFT Live, the Heavyweight Champion baby of 154 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: the NFL Media Press Corps, Our friend Michael Florio, Mike, 155 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: how are you pal? 156 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 3: What's going on? 157 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 5: Happy New Year? Butthole? 158 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 3: Happy New Year, butthole to you? 159 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 2: Hey, I know we're talking NFL, but you want to 160 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 2: chime in as a guy that covers the sport on 161 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 2: this Demon Williams situation. It's right here, Mike, in our 162 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 2: backyard with the Washington quarterback signed an NIL deal on 163 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: Friday and then yesterday announces I don't care, I'm putting 164 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: my name in the transfer portal. What do you make 165 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: of the current state of college football and this story 166 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 2: happening out here in Seattle Man. 167 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 5: College football is the experiencing the chaos it deserves as 168 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 5: a result of decades of exploiting players under this fiction 169 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 5: of the NCAA restricting what the university can legally provide 170 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 5: to players by way of compensation. Think about it, all 171 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 5: of these independent businesses huddled under the NCAA umbrella, and 172 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 5: when it was time to compete for the players who 173 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 5: were going to make more money for the program, all 174 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 5: the teams had to say was sorry, the NCAA rules 175 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 5: don't let us do it. It was a giant anti 176 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 5: trust violation. It has collapsed onto itself, and everything that 177 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 5: happens in the wake of that is on the people 178 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 5: who created and maintained that system for as long as 179 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 5: they did. The reckoning came way too late, but it came, 180 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 5: and everything that happens now is a product not only 181 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 5: of that past corruption, but a refusal, a stubborn refusal 182 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 5: by the schools to do what needs to be done, 183 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 5: starting nationwide union with true collective bargaining, which would put 184 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 5: rules in place that would prevent what happened. But they 185 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 5: don't want that. They want Congress to wave a magic 186 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 5: one and give them a pass and give them and 187 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 5: trust exemption so they can go back to the days 188 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 5: when the players were limited in what they could make. 189 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 5: That's not the answer. The answer is true collective bargaining, 190 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 5: but they don't want that because they don't want to 191 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 5: have to answer to a union. They can't have it 192 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 5: both ways. It is on the schools. The specific cases 193 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 5: may look like it's on the players. The root problem 194 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 5: is on the entire industry, the individual schools and the NCAA. 195 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 4: Mike the big news in the NFL the last forty 196 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 4: eight hours or so, the eighteen year run in Baltimore's 197 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 4: over for John Harbaugh. There are reports that he lost 198 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 4: the locker room. Is that your understanding? As well as 199 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 4: far as why he was fired. 200 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 5: I've seen mixed indication. Then. Look, after a controversial decision 201 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 5: like this is made, there will be individuals with motivations 202 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 5: to utilize the media to put out narratives that may 203 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 5: or may not be true. The bottom line is, after 204 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 5: eighteen years, it was time for both sides to move on. 205 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 5: We saw this coming. All the things that were said 206 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 5: about Mike Tomlin and Pittsburgh in the aftermath of the 207 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 5: embarrassing lost in December at home to the Bills twenty 208 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 5: six to seven, those things all applied with equal force 209 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 5: to what was going on in Baltimore. It's just time. 210 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 5: After this long, it's time, and that's what under stived. 211 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 5: Bashadi decided that field goal that was missed, and I 212 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 5: was explaining this to my wife last night because she 213 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 5: was like, then this field goal got him fired? Well, yes, 214 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 5: but no it did because if he'd made it, they'd 215 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 5: be getting ready for a game next Monday night, so 216 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 5: they wouldn't have fired him. So yeah, but it was 217 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 5: deeper than that, and some people think that it was 218 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 5: ultimately a choice between John Harbor and Lamar Jackson. I 219 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 5: have a feeling that Lamar Jackson maybe next, depending upon 220 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 5: who they hired to be the coach, what the coach wants, 221 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 5: and what Lamar wants. Based upon the coach they hire, 222 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 5: there could be an effort to trade him. Not that 223 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 5: they'll shop him. I think they want to be coy 224 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 5: about it to get the best possible trade return. But 225 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 5: I'm not ruling out just because Harball's gone. 226 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 2: I'm not rolling out that Lamar Jackson's than How about 227 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 2: Pete Carroll after a year getting the whack with Vegas? 228 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 2: His fault, Spike Tech's fault, previous regime's fault. 229 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 3: What do you make of that deal? 230 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 5: Everybody's fault and Pete's sin in all of this was 231 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 5: allowing his relentless optimism to make him think the Raiders 232 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 5: were better than they were. The moves they made, specifically 233 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 5: bringing in quarterbacks. You know, Smith thinking about Matthew Stafford 234 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 5: not wanting to develop a young quarterback. Drafting Ashton Jenny 235 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 5: with a top ten pick, that's an icing on the 236 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 5: cake move. You have to have the cake before you 237 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 5: go get the icing. They didn't have the cake. They 238 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 5: don't have enough talent. They misevaluated what their roster was, 239 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 5: and it's on Pete Carroll for not recognizing it. It's 240 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 5: on John'spytech for making the moves that were made to 241 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 5: try to make the team better. And the one guy 242 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 5: who has escaped scrutiny so far for most is Tom Brady. 243 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 5: He's an owner of the team. He was brought in 244 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 5: at a reduced rate by owner Mark Davis to stay 245 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 5: the football operation to fill the void that was created 246 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 5: when John Bruden ultimately left under circumstances that are well 247 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 5: documented in in some ways disputed, but Brady is the 248 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 5: right hand man and now now Brady's front and center. 249 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 5: The statement they issued on Monday regarding the termination if 250 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 5: Pete Carroll said that John Spytech, in close collaboration with 251 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 5: Tom Brady, will lead the football operation. So Brady got 252 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 5: to decide whether he's going to be all in or 253 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 5: all out. I don't like this halfway absentee landlord. I 254 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 5: think the people who show up and put in the 255 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 5: work every day in any business, they resent nothing more 256 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 5: than someone who is just doing drive by telling them 257 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 5: what they're doing wrong. To know what's happening, you have 258 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 5: to be there, and tom Brady's not going to do 259 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 5: that because he's not given up his gig with Fox, 260 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 5: He's not given up all the other stuff he does. 261 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 5: It generates revenue. He tries to make enough money that 262 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 5: he can own a team of his own at some point, 263 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 5: which I think is the play. I don't like it, 264 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 5: and I know and people say, oh, you hate tom 265 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 5: Brady's Like, no, everybody else is blind to it because 266 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 5: they love tom Brady. Let's apply the same standard to 267 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 5: him that would apply to anyone else who's trying to 268 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 5: do this halfway ownership of a team, running of a 269 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 5: team not fully committed. Matt Ryan, if he gets these 270 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 5: Falcons job as president of football Operations, he's going to 271 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 5: be all in. He's going to be there every day. 272 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 5: That's the only way to do a job like that. 273 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 4: Would Tom Brady have the guts to hire somebody that 274 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 4: currently has a lawsuit going against the NFL in Brian Flores. 275 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 5: If any team were to hire Brian Flores, it would 276 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 5: be the race. They have a long history of litigation 277 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 5: against the National Football League, and there is a rumor 278 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 5: that's been making the rounds. I heard about it over 279 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 5: the weekend. I haven't heard much talk of it lately, 280 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 5: but you know, this is a time of year where 281 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 5: you don't have to reach high on the tree to 282 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 5: find the apples. The apples are all over the orchard 283 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 5: and you just got to pick them up and stuff 284 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 5: them into the sack and present them to the consumers 285 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 5: as quickly as possible. As so much news going on 286 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 5: right now. But the rumor is basically Tom Brady a 287 00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 5: Patriot waiver reunion where you bring in guys who learned 288 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 5: under Bill Belichick. The guy that Brady learned under as 289 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 5: a player, Brian Flores, is available. His scheme is good 290 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 5: enough to get him interviews. He's a free agent, so 291 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 5: technically they could hire Brian Daball to be the head 292 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 5: coach and Brian Flores to be the defensive coordinator. But 293 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 5: the way the rumor has gone around, it's Flores as 294 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 5: the head coach and Dave All, the former Giants coach 295 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 5: and former Patriots assistant on several different occasions, would run 296 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 5: the offense. So we'll see how that plays out. I 297 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 5: have someone's day to me today. Tom Brady may be 298 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 5: crazy enough to try to bring back Josh mcdaaney's right, 299 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 5: because really, if McDaniels didn't have the failed stint with 300 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 5: the Raiders a couple of years ago, he'd be a 301 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 5: top candidate right now for what he's done with Drake May. 302 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 5: So if they're thinking about bringing in a quarterback with 303 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 5: that first overall pick, or maybe they offer the first 304 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 5: overall pick the Ravens for Lamar Jackson, don't be shocked 305 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 5: as something like that happens. But they need somebody to 306 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 5: coach the quarterback, and Tom Brady has more faith in 307 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 5: Josh McDaniels than anyone else when it comes to running 308 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 5: an offense. 309 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 2: Multiple requests Mike to interview Clint Kubiak. You can remind 310 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 2: me he can interview this week. Is that correct, because 311 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 2: the Hawks of the Bye? 312 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 3: Is that right? 313 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 5: Yeah? And it's a bad situation. And we talk about 314 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 5: this every year. There should be no interviews of current coaches. 315 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 6: There should be. 316 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 5: No hiring process at all until the Super Bowl has ended. 317 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 5: It creates a distraction for teams that are trying to 318 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 5: finish the job the right way. And this is a 319 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 5: narrative that comes up every year and the head coaches 320 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 5: of the teams that still have games to play don't 321 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 5: like it because here's the reality. When you're trying to 322 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 5: get a head coaching job. Are you really focused on 323 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 5: your current job when you go home? And this is 324 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 5: the example that I've heard coaches give. When you go home, 325 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 5: if you're married, does your wife say, hey, how's the 326 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 5: preparation coming for your offensive attack against the upcoming opponent? 327 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 5: Or does the whites say, hey, you. 328 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 6: Know anything about where they're getting at at Atlanta? 329 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 5: Job? What about what about Tennessee? You know, I like 330 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 5: the schools better in Nashville than I do in New York. 331 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 5: Whatever it may be, that becomes the focal point of 332 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 5: the guy's life, and it puts the candidate in a 333 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 5: very difficult situation. They need to change it. I don't 334 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 5: think they ever will. But that said, yeah, he's a 335 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 5: viable candidate. I think it's going to be hard for 336 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 5: guys who don't have head coaching experience to get hired 337 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 5: in this cycle. I think teams are going to skew 338 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 5: toward guys who have done it before. But it's undeniable 339 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 5: what he's done with Sam Darnold this year and what 340 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 5: he's managed to accomplish with the Seattle offense. 341 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 3: You have the Hawks number one in your power rankings. 342 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 4: With the caveat you said, if they can avoid the Rams, 343 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 4: they'll get back to the super Bowl. I can read 344 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 4: that one of two ways. I could either say that 345 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 4: you think the Rams will beat the Hawks if they 346 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 4: play the Hawks, or you're just saying the Rams are 347 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 4: the one NFC team that could actually beat the Hawks. 348 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 3: Which are you saying? 349 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 5: I don't see the difference between the two. I think 350 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 5: you don't want a Round three with the Rams. Look 351 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 5: at how the Rams ran the ball and pass the 352 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 5: ball up and down the field in that Thursday Night Classic. 353 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 5: The Rams should have won that game. I don't think 354 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 5: you want the Rams coming back to town. And this 355 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 5: is true of any number one seed who has division 356 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 5: rivals also in the playoffs, and obviously the Sea Hawks 357 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 5: have too in the forty nine ers in the Rams, 358 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 5: you don't want to play those teams. They are not 359 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 5: intimidated by you, they are not afraid of you, they 360 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 5: are not overwhelmed when they come to your stadium. They 361 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 5: go there every year and they would love nothing more 362 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 5: than to be responsible for ending your magical season. You 363 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 5: don't want it. When the Rams looked like they were 364 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 5: the number one seed, I said, mean, that's you know, 365 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 5: I don't want to see hawks of the forty nine 366 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 5: ers showing up in Sofi Stadium in January. That's how 367 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 5: the magic run comes to an end. And now the 368 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 5: tables have turned, and you don't want You don't want 369 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 5: the Rams or the forty nine Ers, more so the Rams. 370 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 6: But you know the forty nine. 371 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 5: Ers, I mean, they man handled it on Saturday Night. 372 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 5: Do we really think that happens the second game in 373 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 5: a row. I don't know if Trent Williams would play 374 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,239 Speaker 5: in a rematch in the postseason. I wouldn't rule out 375 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 5: the forty nine Ers pulling off the victory division rival. 376 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 5: You never know what's going to happen in that third game. 377 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 5: So I want neither of those teams coming to the 378 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 5: century length Lumen whatever it's called. Is it Loomen? 379 00:17:59,680 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 7: Now? 380 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 6: Can they a name? 381 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 5: No kingdom? When they come to the Kingdom. I wouldn't 382 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 5: want to see the forty nine ers in the risk. 383 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 2: Mike, you're the man, great stuff, and we will talk 384 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 2: in a week. Appreciate it, Bud. 385 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 5: Are you impressed that I remembered the Kingdom. 386 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 3: Very impressed. But you're also old like us, so you 387 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 3: should remember the Kingdom, you know. 388 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 5: Well, I won't say what although I've seen some very 389 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 5: salty language on TV today. Maybe the standards are changing, 390 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 5: so maybe I can drop an f bumb if I want. 391 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 5: I don't know. I'm confused by the current. And if 392 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 5: you'll watch this on nbct N in the morning, you 393 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 5: may hear some salty language, but I won't do that 394 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 5: to you because you're a sec regularly. 395 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 3: Well, we appreciate that, all right, man, love you. 396 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 2: I'm talking a week cepal Mike Florio with us Rick 397 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: new Heiseel, de Mine Williams and the portal. 398 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 3: What does jetfish do? Now? Where does you dub go 399 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 3: from here? Next? 400 00:18:46,840 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 2: On ninety three three KJRFM. 401 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: Your home for college football Saturdays, is live with CBS 402 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: Sports analyst Rick new Heiseel, powered by Taco Time. Hungry 403 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: at Taco Time, It's easy to create exactly what you're craving, 404 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 1: and we wouldn't have it any other way. 405 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 3: How do you Taco Time? 406 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: Customize your meal and order ahead on the Taco Time 407 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: Northwest Taco Time Time for something different Now with Rick 408 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: Neuheisel here's Softian Dick. 409 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 2: All right, tepically, you hear this guy on Thursdays during 410 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 2: the college football season, but an emergency visits with the 411 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 2: former head coach of the Huskies now a brand new 412 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 2: head coach in the USFL. 413 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 3: Is that what I'm hearing? 414 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 4: By the way, ufl ufl ufl take the s out 415 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 4: ufl ufl u f L. 416 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 3: I got it. 417 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 2: We will chat about that and wish you luck down 418 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 2: the road and that endeavor for sure. 419 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 8: Man. 420 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 2: But dude, the news comes down last night about six o'clock, 421 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 2: Demon Williams putting his name in the transfer portal, shocking 422 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 2: pretty much everybody. This is just four days after he 423 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 2: had signed a NILAN revenue shared deal with Washington Friday. 424 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 2: The next story you tip here in that regard is it, Well, 425 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 2: the star quarterback is helping the coach find new players 426 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 2: to make the football team better, not that he's leaving 427 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 2: the program. So let's just give you the floor. Your 428 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 2: reaction to last night's news, coach, Well. 429 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 6: It's troubling if you're a Washington fan. It's certainly troubling 430 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 6: if you're Jed Fish. And with the donation, with the 431 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 6: designation along the entry into the portal is do not contact. 432 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 6: That means that somebody probably has contacted him, and so 433 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 6: this deal could be in the offing, and when it happens, 434 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 6: we'll wait and see. But given the fact that he's 435 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 6: signed a document that says he's bound to Washington, it 436 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 6: will be an interesting legal challenge and I'm sure that 437 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 6: Washington I think I've read where Washington is already pursuing 438 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 6: their legal strategy as to how to proceed in this deal. 439 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 6: I mean, no one wants a guy who doesn't want 440 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 6: to be there, but this is so crazy given the 441 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 6: success that the youngsters had with Jedfish as his head coach. 442 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 6: I know, we all know what kind of a wonderful 443 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 6: place Washington is, but what has happened over the last 444 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 6: forty eight hours is the quarterback marketplace has changed drastically 445 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 6: in terms of what kids are commanding from a revenue standpoint. 446 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 6: The number that's being thrown around at Texas Tech with 447 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 6: their commitment from Brendan Soresby, the kid that was the 448 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 6: quarterback at Cincinnati this last year and previous to that 449 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 6: was at Indiana, is close to six million dollars. And 450 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 6: at six million dollars, that means Sam Lovett's going to 451 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 6: be able to command a huge amount, whether it be 452 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 6: Miami or LSU. And somehow, some way, whether Demand's agent 453 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 6: did it, or somebody called him said, and I don't 454 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 6: know what his deal is with Washington, but somebody said, 455 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 6: you're about it, said here's what the numbers are. You 456 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 6: need to reconsider this or the other potential is some 457 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 6: school now realizing And if you're LSU or Miami with 458 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 6: Soresby off the list, you're one of those guys that 459 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 6: says we're going to end up short of a elite quarterback. 460 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 6: And here's the next one on the elite list. Let's 461 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 6: see if he can be persuaded. So, if you're just 462 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 6: trying to guess what happened, that seems to be to 463 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 6: be the most logical. 464 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 4: Well, Rick, how can he sign a one year deal 465 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 4: and get out of it without any repercussions? I mean, 466 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 4: what type of precedent would that set throughout college football? 467 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 4: I mean, these nil deals would not be worth the 468 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 4: paper they're printed on if Washington doesn't get some sort 469 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 4: of penalty payment. 470 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 6: Here, agreed, agreed. As a matter of fact, Georgia right 471 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 6: now is suing a linebacker who left them after signing 472 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 6: up and then il deal a year ago. I think 473 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 6: they paid thirty thousand to three hundred and some odd 474 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 6: thousand that the deal was that they had agreed to, 475 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 6: and then the kid left for greener past years with 476 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 6: an emphasis on greener. They that's in litigation right now. 477 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 6: I don't know exactly what the tail of the tape 478 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 6: will be when the you know, those in the world 479 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 6: of jurisprudence look at this stuff. But in contract law, 480 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 6: when there is offer and there is acceptance, and there 481 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 6: was consideration within the contract that forms a contract, and 482 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 6: usually there are damages when you break the contract, and 483 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 6: the damages in this case would be extreme. 484 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, don't you have a law degree? 485 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 6: By the way, I do contract law. That was the 486 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 6: first thing you learned. Offer acceptance, but there has to 487 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 6: be consideration, and I'm sure there was plenty of consideration 488 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 6: involved in the Ban Williams deal with the University of 489 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 6: Wall Well. 490 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 2: I mean Rick new Heisel with us and Rick Here's 491 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 2: where I'm coming from. Demon Williams will never play it 492 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: down again for you, dub Ever, it's it's over, he's gone, 493 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 2: He's he's burned that bridge it's done. The only question 494 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 2: is what does Washington get, you know, on the back end, 495 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 2: as far as a settlement from LSU or whatever team 496 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 2: he ends up going to. And then what does Jedfish 497 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 2: do on the other side of this? I mean put 498 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 2: yourself in his shoes. You can play by the greasy 499 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 2: rules that have been set up by college football's lack 500 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 2: of governance and go after somebody else's demon Williams if 501 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,719 Speaker 2: you want, who's under contract with a different team, or 502 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 2: you can look to the portal and look to guys 503 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 2: like Sam Levitt or maybe you know a Dominic Raiola 504 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 2: or a DJ Lagway. 505 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 3: I mean, the pickens are slims. So what's your move 506 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 3: if you're Jedfish. 507 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 6: Well, if you're of the mind that the bridge is burned, 508 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 6: then you have to go into the portal and you 509 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 6: have to do the best you can. And Jed's been, 510 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 6: you know, very good at finding guy will Rogers. Whether 511 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 6: you know whomever is out there the DJ Lagway thing 512 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 6: probably will have some intrigue. But I'm telling you again, 513 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 6: this all comes down now to who's got the loot 514 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 6: because the money out there is exorbitant. My son is 515 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 6: now the quarterback coach at Northwestern and they just signed 516 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 6: to aid and Childs and I can't tell you how 517 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 6: much money they get him. I can't tell you, but 518 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 6: it's incredible what the marketplace is, but it is. It's 519 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 6: one of those things that Jed's going to have to 520 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 6: get in and get in quickly because it's going to 521 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:41,239 Speaker 6: dry up. 522 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 4: Well, I think you're right about getting in quickly, because 523 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 4: don't you think, Rick, that there are a lot of 524 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 4: quarterbacks out there that have not signed deals yet, that 525 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 4: are on teams, but they have not signed nil deals 526 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 4: for twenty point six sec demand a week ago. 527 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 3: Hadn't signed an nil deal with Washington. 528 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 4: So what do you think the percentagees of the top 529 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 4: thirty quarterbacks in the nation that are actually already locked 530 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 4: up the deals for next year? 531 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 6: So it's interesting you should ask that because I've been 532 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 6: on the phone with a number of college coaches as 533 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 6: I'm trying to assess who to take in this UFL 534 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 6: draft right because no one has a player, so I've 535 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 6: got to turn in the list of five quarterbacks tomorrow. 536 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 6: So I'm trying to get as much information on these 537 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 6: guys as I can, and in talking to these coaches, 538 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 6: I'm pulling them away from what they're doing in the 539 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 6: transfer portal, and they're all like, thank god, I get 540 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 6: to talk about something other than money. Yes, thank god 541 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 6: I get to talk about a kid rather than, you know, 542 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 6: having to smile and act as if it's a wonderful 543 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 6: deal that I'm able to give this guy, you know, 544 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 6: bundles of money more than what he's worth, because it's 545 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 6: just crazy, most of these guys having had experience in 546 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 6: what college athletics have been previous to this time. So 547 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 6: it's it's it's a wild wild West, and the money 548 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 6: is going incredibly. I mean, it's an un sustainable model 549 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 6: what's happening right now. And Sam Levitt and Demon Williams 550 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 6: have got the tiger by the tail right now when 551 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 6: it comes to what they can command given what the 552 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 6: marketplace actually is right now. 553 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, well there's names I've heard. 554 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 2: I've heard Levitt's name, I've heard Noah Fafiita's name from Arizona. 555 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 2: I've even heard Bo Prabula, the former Penn State Missouri quarterback, 556 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 2: as a potential target for you Dubs. So I don't know, 557 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 2: but if it came down to guys like that, is 558 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 2: there a preference for you Levet over FAFEEDA. For example, 559 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 2: what would be your preference if you had five million 560 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 2: dollars now to go spend it a quarterback, who would 561 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 2: you spend it on? 562 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 6: Well, Levitt would be high on the list, and Jed's 563 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 6: knowledge of Faffita would be right there next. Those two 564 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:52,719 Speaker 6: guys would put the bill. But I think five million, 565 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 6: as crazy as this sounds, at least for Levitt would 566 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 6: be light not enough. Fafita might be that deal. But yeah, 567 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 6: I mean it's just craziness. And right now, what do 568 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 6: we It's January sixth seventh, whatever it is today, we 569 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 6: have tell the twelfth or excuse me, tell the sixteenth 570 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 6: for people to get into it. So there's ample time 571 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 6: for those who are still out there that are you know, 572 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 6: accomplished quarterbacks to just still consider this. And again there's 573 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 6: this market ever growing in coming down to you know, 574 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 6: programs like Miami and LSU or who are counting on 575 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 6: a portal guy they're willing to spend. You can't spend 576 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 6: ninety one million dollars on Lane Kiffin and not. 577 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 2: Go get a quarterback for right, Well, and Rick, just 578 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 2: going back to the question about Demon William's future, I mean, 579 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 2: I was kind of taking it back is the wrong word, 580 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 2: but I when I mentioned the idea that Demand's done 581 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 2: at Washington, you kind of answered that, like, well, okay, 582 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 2: if that's the way you feel, are you telling me 583 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 2: that you can see a scenario after the last twenty 584 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 2: four hours where Demand Williams maybe pulls his name out 585 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 2: of the portal and comes back to Washington. 586 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 6: I can see a situation where Washington sweetens the deal 587 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 6: and he, as he said, I have to do it's 588 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 6: best for me. Well, if what's best for you is 589 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 6: to stay within a program that you've already been on 590 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 6: and been coached by, and to be able to sustain 591 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 6: that and continue to grow on that, that might be 592 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 6: best for you. Financially. We don't know how far apart 593 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 6: what the new market is and what Demand got because 594 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 6: everybody keeps these cards so close to the vests. But 595 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 6: until we get some transparency around this, we're going to 596 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 6: end up making villains out of young people, which is 597 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 6: really sad. 598 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 4: Well, isn't also a possibility that Demand going along those 599 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 4: lines of thinking, that Demand either plays at Washington or 600 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 4: he can't play anywhere because Washington will not allow him to. 601 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 6: I don't know about the the legality of the document signed, 602 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 6: what the document is, is it name, image and likeness? 603 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 6: Is it for pay for play? These are the kind 604 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 6: of things that none of us really know, because it's 605 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 6: a brave new world. We just don't know. And what 606 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 6: kind of what kind of you know, hold or potential 607 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 6: hold on Demon's career Washington has based on the signature 608 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 6: of the contract that he signed. I don't have any 609 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 6: idea what that looks like. And tell any of us 610 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 6: actually get to see what he signed, then I don't 611 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 6: think any of us can answer that appropriately. 612 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 2: All right, before you go, who do you like to 613 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: play in Miami for the title? 614 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 6: I think it's going to be Miami, in Indiana Miami. 615 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 6: I think Miami's just they've got to They can create 616 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 6: a pass rush without adding to the pressure. You don't 617 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 6: have to add a fifth guy. They can run the ball, 618 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 6: and they can stop all my running game and keep 619 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 6: Shambliss from getting his legs involved. Then it's going to 620 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 6: be Miami. And in the other game, shoot, I was 621 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 6: there for the first one and that was Indiana going 622 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 6: to Eugene, and they held him to forty one yards 623 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 6: in the second half up until the last clock ride 624 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 6: when it was a two score game, and that we've 625 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 6: got a better version of Indiana right now based on 626 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 6: that performance in the Rose Bowl. The confidence level is high. 627 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 6: So I'm going to take Indiana and I'm going to 628 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 6: take Miami. 629 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 3: I love it. That works for me, man, no doubt. 630 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 2: Rick, great stuff, Thanks for doing this, and we'll talk 631 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 2: down the road, Bud. 632 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 3: Thanks guy. 633 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 6: I look forward to it. Boys. 634 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 2: Thanks be Rick, new isil with us. Lots to discuss. 635 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 2: We'll discuss all of it. Next big day. Demand Williams 636 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 2: and the portal. How about that coming up on ninety 637 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 2: three three KJRFM from. 638 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 8: The R and R Foundation Specialists Broadcast Studio. Now back 639 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 8: to Sofie and Dick on your Home for the Huskies 640 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 8: Cracking and the twelfth Man Sports Radio ninety three point 641 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 8: three KJR film. 642 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 2: All right, Petros Babinakas will join us coming up next 643 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 2: time before o'clock the day to have him on. By 644 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 2: the way, Holy moly with this demon Williams story. So 645 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 2: we want some of your reaction, right Jackson four nine, 646 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 2: four to five one for textemennials of four forty five. 647 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 2: We're gonna be off the air a little bit early 648 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 2: tonight for you, dumb and perdudy. I'll just say this, 649 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 2: if we're getting off the ear of five o'clock, the 650 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 2: Husky's better win a game for us. 651 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 3: All right, go down there and be We have a 652 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 3: we have an agreement on this radio show, all right. 653 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 2: I'm not sure if it's enforceable, like the Mon Williams 654 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 2: contract with you dubbed by the way, but the agreement 655 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 2: is if you knocks off the in dick on the 656 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 2: air at five o'clock and you play a top five team, 657 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 2: you must win or reimburse us on the radio show. 658 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 2: So we'll find out what happens at five tonight. But 659 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 2: we want your thoughts four nine, four to five to one. 660 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 2: You know, what's your mindset like as a Husky fan? 661 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 2: Who do you blame for all this? I heard the 662 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 2: end today talking about how there's apocrasy, look at it, 663 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 2: there's always apocrasy and everything, and the was this point 664 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 2: point was that what what what Jed Fish did? The 665 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 2: Jaden Dolaura coaches leaving, coaches grabbing players, blah blah blah. 666 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: First of all, they're they're there is some hypocrisy. I'll 667 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 2: admit that in college football number one. Number two. I 668 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 2: do think this is different than a coach leaving Dick 669 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 2: for another program. And here's why, because there's no salary 670 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 2: cap for coaches in college football. 671 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 3: There is for players. 672 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 2: It's called twenty point five million dollars in revenue share 673 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 2: and whatever finite number of sponsors dogs on leash can 674 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 2: come up with them. 675 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 3: By the way, if you. 676 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 2: Udub knew that Demon Williams was leaving, maybe they would 677 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 2: have jumped in the portal earlier to grab a quarterback. 678 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 2: Maybe they would have spent money on Jordan Watt, excuse me, 679 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 2: Ad Mohammad or Raydon Vines Bright to keep those guys 680 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 2: in Seattle. That's number one, and then number two. The 681 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 2: timing of this, I think is what really sucks for Washington. 682 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 2: There are quarterbacks out there, and if you're going to 683 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 2: play it the right way, which is just get guys 684 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 2: in the portal, the pickings are pretty slim compared to 685 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 2: where they would have been maybe a week ago. If 686 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 2: DeMont Williams a week ago wanted to take off before 687 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 2: he signed his NIL deal, then take off and get 688 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 2: the hell out of here. 689 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 3: I wouldn't have been happy about that either. 690 00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 2: By the way, just for the record, but I'm more 691 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 2: pissed off that Washington finds out four days after he 692 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 2: signs his deal and multiple big name quarterbacks that maybe 693 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 2: you Dubb would have wanted a piece of are already 694 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 2: off the board. 695 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,720 Speaker 4: Well, I think it's totally different than a coach, because 696 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 4: a coach has got language in his contract saying this 697 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 4: is how much the school is going to get if 698 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,839 Speaker 4: I leave this day, if I leave that day, if 699 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 4: I leave this day, it's it's it's. 700 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 3: Right in writing. There caught a buyout right now. 701 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 4: Yes, there is nothing like that in a player's contract, 702 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 4: and I think we are going to get to a 703 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 4: point where the player's contracts are going to look very 704 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 4: much like the coach's contracts. 705 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, look, I mean I'm just this whole thing 706 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 3: just discussed me. 707 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: Man. 708 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 2: It really does a lot of different angles on this 709 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 2: discuss me. The fact that this happened during Mia Hammond's 710 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 2: memorial last night just irritates the absolute. 711 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 3: Hell out of me. 712 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 2: I mean, I cannot believe that Demond Williams would go 713 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 2: out and do something like that. 714 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 3: Do I think it was intentional? 715 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 2: Do I think that demand Williams was sitting in his condo, 716 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 2: thinking hey, there's a memorial for me, I'll put his 717 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 2: tweet out or this IG post out. 718 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 5: Now. 719 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 3: No, I don't think that. I think he's adult, is 720 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 3: what I think. 721 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 2: I think he's a dumb ass kid that did something 722 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 2: really stupid last night with the entire football team in attendance, 723 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 2: with Jed and assistant coaches by the way, guys, and 724 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 2: he decided to make that night about him. 725 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 7: Can we just yeah, we need to establish that really quick, 726 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 7: because I've seen too much BS on social media and 727 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 7: on the text line saying he didn't know who Mia 728 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 7: was and listen, he's a football nine. Like, come on, man, 729 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 7: if you guys really believe that, then to Sofia, you said, Monday, 730 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 7: get your head out of your ass. The entire football 731 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 7: team and coaches were there, demon knew what was happening, 732 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 7: and screw him for having either he or his representation 733 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 7: putting that out there. 734 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 3: During it. 735 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 2: He's getting terrible advice, Dick, and he's getting terrible advice 736 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 2: from his parents. By the way, I don't even know 737 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 2: how much his agent was involved in this story. To 738 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 2: be honest with you, honestly, I would like. 739 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 4: To believe that there is more good in a kid 740 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 4: than bad in a kid. And I would like to 741 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 4: believe that he had no idea exactly when that was 742 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 4: going to be posted and win that because I don't 743 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 4: think he sat down, wrote it and hit send. All right, 744 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 4: I certainly don't believe that. So I would rather believe 745 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 4: that he wouldn't purposely put that out or have somebody 746 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,280 Speaker 4: purposely put that out during me as fewer. 747 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 2: Well, there's a difference. And look, I agree with you. 748 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 2: I don't think he said like I said. I don't 749 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 2: think demon said I want to send this post out. 750 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 2: Can we wait until MIA's memorial service to do it. 751 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 2: I don't think he said that. I just think he's 752 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 2: an idiot. That's what I think. I think he's a 753 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 2: dumb kid. 754 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 3: Tone deaf. 755 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 2: That is completely tone deaf. That is totally the right 756 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 2: way to say it, exactly. But no, look, I mean, 757 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 2: you Dub is going to fight this tooth and nail. 758 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 2: There's all these people on social media, a lot of 759 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 2: them in the media, by the way, they don't understand anything. 760 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 2: You Dub is going to enforce the terms of his contract. 761 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 2: How can he come back? Guys? 762 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 3: Stop it. 763 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 2: They're not enforcing the terms of his contract to get 764 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 2: Demon Williams back in Seattle. They're enforcing the terms of 765 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 2: his contract to be entitled to whatever legal damages they 766 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:00,359 Speaker 2: can sue. 767 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 3: That's what this is now all about. Act He's done. 768 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 3: He's done. 769 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 2: He's public enemy number one in my opinion, he's finished. 770 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 2: He will never ever step foot at Husky Stadium ever 771 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 2: again as a football player. 772 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 3: I don't want the guy back. 773 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 2: And if he does come back, like Rick new Wesnet 774 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 2: talked about, and by the way, file that under what 775 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 2: you and I talked about yesterday, you never know what's 776 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 2: gonna happen anymore. You can't can't, you can't say no 777 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 2: to any crazy idea. He comes back to Washington, it's 778 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 2: going to be a garbage dump. 779 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 3: Absolute you know what, show every question. 780 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,320 Speaker 2: The booze from the audience, from the stands, the criticisms. Man, 781 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 2: now he needs to leave. He burned a bridge and 782 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 2: it's time for him to go. 783 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 4: No, there's no question about it. I mean, I just 784 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 4: see this ending. Most likely Washington gets paid off and 785 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 4: Demon goes to LSU or where wherever. Right, if that 786 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 4: doesn't happen or this is prolonged, Washington can hold Demon 787 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 4: Williams hostage. 788 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing though about that he doesn't need 789 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 2: to be in the transfer poot to go play for 790 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 2: somebody else. There's a kid named Xavier Lucas that transferred 791 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 2: from Wisconsin to Miami and he is playing for the Hurricanes. 792 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 2: And he left with Conson and he left Wisconsin and 793 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 2: never went to the portal and ended up enrolling with 794 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 2: the Hurricanes. And there's a lawsuit that's been pending now 795 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 2: and it'll be pending for a long time. So this 796 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 2: is what happens. Guys go out and they just break 797 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 2: rules because they know there's no consequence for it. And 798 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 2: this is a seminal moment. You're exactly right, Dick for 799 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 2: college football. And there's a quote in Pete Thamil's article 800 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 2: and I we have to break here. There's a quote 801 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 2: in Pete Thamil's article today where a high ranking INCAA 802 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,320 Speaker 2: executive has a simple question that everyone needs to answer. 803 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 2: Are we going to respect rules and contracts or are 804 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 2: we not? Because if we're not, then the wild wild 805 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 2: West will continue to be wild. It already started with 806 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 2: the Xavier Lucas guy. Demon Williams. He's not going to 807 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 2: jail for this, right he'll take off. He'll go to 808 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 2: LSU Washington SUS LSU. LSU doubles Demon's nil or gives 809 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 2: them a raise. They settle with UDUB. Some big fat 810 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 2: oil baron from Louisiana just gonna cost LSU twice as 811 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 2: much for de mont Williams. 812 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 3: Right, So check to Washington. 813 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 2: They get a bag, and the mont Williams takes off 814 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 2: and goes in place for LSU. That's the most that's 815 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 2: likely how this will come down until college football says enough, 816 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:18,919 Speaker 2: we're gonna break. 817 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 3: Petros joins next on ninety three to three kJ RFM