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Speaker 1: Drop head coach Dan Mues spoke to the media just

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Speaker 1: a couple of minutes ago following the Penguins morning skate.

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Speaker 1: She Lofts will start for the Penguins against Vegas. No

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Speaker 1: surprise there. Girard is out. He is still considered day today,

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Speaker 1: so you won't have the return of Girard on defense,

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Speaker 1: and Crosby is still working his way back. This was

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Speaker 1: considered just part of his process all of these morning skates,

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Speaker 1: So we'll try to get more details from Josh Joey

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Speaker 1: when he joins us at the bottom of the hour.

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Speaker 1: Eight three three four thirty nine is the number to Colin,

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Speaker 1: I got a simple question to kick off this hour

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Speaker 1: of the show, Steelers related.

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Speaker 2: Are they better this year than they were last year?

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like this team through a few days

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Speaker 1: of free agency now technically one, but it started on Monday,

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Speaker 1: really are they a better football team than they were

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five in twenty twenty six? Do you

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Speaker 1: feel that way on paper? Eight three three four one

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Speaker 1: make that argument, but what holds you back is what

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Speaker 1: me and Brian just talked about to end that interview.

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Speaker 1: You don't know who your quarterback is one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: eighty five percent. You feel good about it, and maybe

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Speaker 1: the Steelers know something that everybody else doesn't, But you

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Speaker 1: just don't.

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Speaker 2: Know who the quarterback is.

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Speaker 1: And even if you just assume it's Aaron Rodgers, until

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Speaker 1: you know for sure, it's hard to really put that

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Speaker 1: were last year. Now, if you want to take the

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Speaker 1: roster at current face value in doing this exercise, then no,

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Speaker 1: not with Will Howard, not with Mason Rudolf at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But let's pretend Rogers was a normal human being for

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Speaker 1: a second, right, and he has already declared Io.

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Speaker 3: Will be returning to Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: I will sign a one year, twenty million dollar deal

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Speaker 1: for my second year, as he should have done by Now,

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Speaker 2: Are they better?

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Speaker 1: I think it's tending to say yes, And I might

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Speaker 1: finish this segment with my definitive statement of saying yes,

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Speaker 1: but allow myself to talk myself out.

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Speaker 2: Of it over these next couple of minutes.

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Speaker 1: Pittman in your receiving room is better, absolutely, but until

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Speaker 2: I mean, the receiving room is better.

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Speaker 1: You got two top dogs now, but Micha McCarthy runs

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Speaker 1: eleven personnel. You need three receivers out on that field.

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Speaker 1: Rowan Wilson would be that third receiver right now. There's

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Speaker 1: still flaws in that room. They still need to attack that.

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Speaker 1: But sure you have DK and you have Pittman. At

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Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of the Dawdle move, and I

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Speaker 1: Danny and the car wants to talk some Steelers.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Danny?

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Speaker 4: I think the Steelers have a definite chance to be

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Speaker 3: They're gonna do.

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Speaker 4: Whatever is necessary to move that ball. They're gonna have

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Speaker 4: The defense is gonna have to have a better scheme.

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Speaker 1: You know, I mean, unless Rogers comes back, which he

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Speaker 4: But I don't think it was Rogers doing the governor.

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Speaker 2: Call in talk some Steelers.

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Speaker 1: I got some Penguins talk coming up next though, and

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Speaker 1: I'm off from an info mark man today. I gotta

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Speaker 2: Finally some good news. Screw Tony Dungee.

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Speaker 1: All you have to do is google Tony Dungee's son

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Speaker 1: and you'll find out why. We got Penguin's Talk with

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Speaker 1: But let's get into some Penguins talk right now. Eight

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Speaker 1: talk some Penguins. What's up, Phil, Hey.

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Speaker 5: Vine, how are we doing?

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Speaker 2: Doing great?

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Speaker 5: What do you got so I'm talking about? I know

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Speaker 5: Mark brought's question last week about resigning Gino. You know,

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Speaker 1: You know, before he did what he did, Phil, I

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Speaker 1: a lot of what you just said. And it would

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Speaker 2: For you with Sid already being out, it was it

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, with Sid being out, like, you've got

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Speaker 5: is him being on long tim I are like football

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Speaker 5: when you're on injured reserve where you can't work until,

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Speaker 5: like you know how, like you're on ASI resort, you've

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Speaker 3: So he's not.

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Speaker 2: He's not on long term IR. He's only on IR.

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Speaker 1: And in hockey you only have to sit out for

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Speaker 1: seven days only a week, so he's already passed that threshold.

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Speaker 2: On IR. He can come back whenever he's ready.

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Speaker 1: Right now, there's not like he's got to be out

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Speaker 5: Oh, perfect, didn't it, Thanks Bos.

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Speaker 2: No problem, Phil. We got Josh Joe coming up next.

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Speaker 1: Tom out from an Infra mark one of five ninety x,

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Speaker 1: as he does every Thursday on the show. And you

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Speaker 1: read his fine work in the Athletic It is Josh

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Speaker 1: Joey Josh. Vegas isn't a bad team tonight's opponent, but

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Speaker 1: tonight is a game that I feel like the Penguins

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Speaker 3: Hi.

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Speaker 6: Tom, First of all, I'm coming to you live from

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Speaker 1: Then you coming from the blackjack table when you're in Vegas, Josh, I'm.

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Speaker 6: Actually coming from the Morning Scape. But the way you

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Speaker 3: Good right now.

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Speaker 6: They're really struggling, and we saw the Penguins really take

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Speaker 6: it to them a couple of weeks ago in Pittsburgh

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Speaker 3: I don't think a.

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Speaker 6: Point is the end of the world, but they're gonna

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Speaker 6: Loser points are fine, But yeah, I mean this is

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Speaker 6: maybe if you look at this trip, Tom the most

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Speaker 6: a pretty nice two points to not for the Penguins.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's any doubt.

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Speaker 2: No, I agree with that.

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Speaker 1: And you just mentioned you're at the morning skate sid

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Speaker 6: I think he's probably going to play on this trip.

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Speaker 6: He's not tonight, as we know right there. I already

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Speaker 3: But he skated.

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Speaker 6: In fact, he was still on the ice when I left,

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about some of the guys that

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Speaker 1: let's start with Eric Carlson, because I think he's been

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Speaker 1: he's been driving the bus in Josh. The big debate

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Speaker 2: Was he just motivated to play for Team Sweden.

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Speaker 1: I think we're getting a better Eric Carlson than we

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Speaker 6: He's the best player on the team right now by far.

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Speaker 6: And I think, honestly, this version of Eric Carlson to me,

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Speaker 3: I love his game right now.

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Speaker 6: So I think we all wondered how he would look

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Speaker 3: I just I've been floored by how good he's been.

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Speaker 1: And now are you starting to notice that I am

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not looking for sticks quite as much. That's

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Speaker 1: Well, raquelm is that one that he set up beautifully

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Speaker 6: That's funny you bring that one up because I spoke

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Speaker 6: He said, He said, no, the first minute and a

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Speaker 6: He's there's just a more assertive quality to his play.

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Speaker 6: I don't know where this team would be without him,

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Speaker 6: I think a real he listen, Sid is Sid, but

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Speaker 3: I think he's been that good.

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Speaker 1: Another guy that stepped up big time has been Anthony

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Speaker 1: Mantha stepping up big all year. Who could have seen

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Speaker 1: What do you think is going right with Anthony Mantha

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Speaker 6: Well, he is always in a tremendously gifted player, Like

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Speaker 6: That doesn't mean he stinks, you know, he's been a

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Speaker 6: You don't want to lose him. He's been such a

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Speaker 6: But man, it's been a good one. He has been

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Speaker 1: Well, would you roll the Penguins out for signing Anthony

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Speaker 1: But Peons have a lot of money that they're going

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't rule it out. I would not.

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Speaker 6: And you know, it's funny you consider they're going to

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Speaker 1: No one really in the pipeline right now, that's going

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Speaker 2: Guy like he kindle's good, but I don't think he'll

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Speaker 3: And I'll tell you another thing.

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Speaker 6: I don't think they want to get into a bidding war,

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Speaker 1: And then Brian Russ has just been an animal for

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Speaker 1: Sid would be out for At the time, we thought

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Speaker 1: it would be four weeks. Hopefully it's going to be

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Speaker 1: a little bit sooner his return than that. But Russ

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Speaker 1: was talking about how we got a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: capable of stepping up, and we need to step up

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Speaker 1: in this room and he's leading by example what he

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Speaker 1: said on that show, because he's been marvelous and he

444
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Speaker 1: carried the team against Carolina.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Tom.

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Speaker 6: Other than Sid, I don't think there's a guy in

447
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Speaker 6: that locker room I have more respect for than Brian Rust.

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Speaker 3: Just the competitor that he is.

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Speaker 6: I'm not surprised that he has elevated his game in

450
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Speaker 6: the absence of the big guys. Brian Rust, all the

451
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Speaker 6: hundreds of Penguins I've covered over the years, I don't

452
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Speaker 6: know that anyone ever cared about winning games more than

453
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Speaker 6: he does. And just I wish ever nobody can see

454
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Speaker 6: when we walk into the locker room after games when

455
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Speaker 6: they when they've lost, he just sits there and looks

456
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Speaker 6: like he wants to kill somebody, like he just takes

457
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Speaker 6: it so seriously, and not every athlete is like that,

458
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Speaker 6: and he is, and he's Uh as Mark always lets

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Speaker 6: to say, he's an O G Penguin, he really is.

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Speaker 3: And I.

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Speaker 6: Just marvel with the player he's turned himself into even

462
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Speaker 6: when he can't is Mike Sullivan likes to say, when

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Speaker 6: I had him in Wilkesbury, I didn't even have him

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Speaker 6: on the power player on the top line and I'll

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Speaker 6: look at him.

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Speaker 3: He might score thirty again. He's just a hell of

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Speaker 3: a hockey player.

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Speaker 2: No question about it.

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Speaker 1: Talking to Josh i Owe from the Athletic here on

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Speaker 1: The Mark Man Show, Josh Live from Vegas, Penguins in

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Speaker 1: Vegas tonight, ten pm. Puck drop here in Pittsburgh. Okay,

472
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Speaker 1: so that was the good, Josh. Let's get to the bad.

473
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Speaker 1: Chris Latang all time over correct, all time Penguin great.

474
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Speaker 1: I have a suresy of him in my drawer at home.

475
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Speaker 1: I love Chrys Latang, but you can't be disingenuous and

476
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Speaker 1: say that he's playing well right now because it is

477
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Speaker 1: a problem on the ice.

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Speaker 6: I hate the critical of him because I don't know

479
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Speaker 6: how many hockey players there have ever been who have

480
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Speaker 6: overcome what he has in his life and to still

481
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Speaker 6: be He is such a great story that he's still

482
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Speaker 6: playing in the NHL for everything he's been through health wise.

483
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Speaker 6: I have the utmost respect for him, but I have

484
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Speaker 6: to call it like I see it, and he's not

485
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Speaker 6: very good right now, and he.

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Speaker 3: Hasn't been for a while.

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Speaker 6: I think you can make a legitimate argument that he

488
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Speaker 6: is their biggest liability at the moment. When you consider

489
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Speaker 6: how often he plays and how important his role is.

490
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Speaker 6: He's been on the ice for so many goals against,

491
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Speaker 6: and so many have been his fault. The mental errors

492
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Speaker 6: have just been multiplying, it seems. And it's interesting because

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Speaker 6: you go back, A lot of people have said to me, well,

494
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Speaker 6: they shouldn't have traded Kolak for Gerard because you know,

495
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Speaker 6: he was playing well with cool Ak and that might

496
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Speaker 6: have screwed things up.

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Speaker 3: And that's true.

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Speaker 6: I mean, just because he went to trade doesn't mean

499
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Speaker 6: it was necessarily the right trade at the right time.

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Speaker 3: So I understand why people say that. But I would

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Speaker 3: also say, well.

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Speaker 6: Tang, you know, at his age and given his stature

503
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Speaker 6: and his importance and all he's done and his talent,

504
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Speaker 6: he shouldn't be that dependent on a defense partner at

505
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Speaker 6: thirty eight years old, for god's sake.

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Speaker 3: Like, if he's that dependent on who he's playing with, then.

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Speaker 6: There's just something wrong that that's a problem. He should

508
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Speaker 6: be able to play a reasonable brand of hockey regardless

509
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Speaker 6: of who he's on the ice with, and lately he's

510
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Speaker 6: just not been good. I don't think any objective person

511
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Speaker 6: could deny that.

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Speaker 1: Now, this next guy, maybe this should be expected. But

513
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Speaker 1: I love Ben Kendall. He's got a bright future. There's

514
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Speaker 1: been some struggles on the ice for the eighteen year

515
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Speaker 1: old lately though, maybe a little bit of pressure felt

516
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Speaker 1: with the Sindon Gino being out.

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Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, there's no doubt.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's been a reckoning the defensives on the

519
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Speaker 6: last three games, and that's something we have not said

520
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Speaker 6: about him. His defensive work has been so good for

521
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Speaker 6: any NHL player, let alone an eighteen year old. It's

522
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Speaker 6: one of the sort of the trade barks of his game.

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Speaker 6: He really struggled in that Philly game, and he hasn't

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Speaker 6: looked himself since. Let's keep an eye on him. I

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Speaker 6: don't think he's hit a wall. I'd be surprised if

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Speaker 6: that's it. I think it's probably just a rough patch

527
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Speaker 6: for a teenager, which happens. I watching him in Rally

528
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Speaker 6: the other night and also this morning in Vegas, he

529
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Speaker 6: was literally the last guy on the ice other than

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Speaker 6: Siden g know he's working his tail off trying to

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Speaker 6: break himself out of it.

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Speaker 3: I think he'll be fine.

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Speaker 6: But I would be disingenuous if I said he's played

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Speaker 6: great the last three games, because he certainly did not.

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Speaker 1: In your estimation, who would get the net if game

536
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Speaker 1: one of the playoffs was today. She Loves has the

537
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Speaker 1: net tonight against Vegas. I kind of think he's been

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Speaker 1: slightly better than Skinner. Skinner was great against the Hurricanes.

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Speaker 6: Though he was I think she Loves would probably be

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Speaker 6: the guy. Skinner does have the experience. Now, let's keep

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Speaker 6: that in mind. He's been in saying like a final

542
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Speaker 6: few years in a row, so he certainly would not

543
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Speaker 6: be afraid of the spotlight. I think she Loves is

544
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Speaker 6: the more physically gifted goaltender. I think he's playing at

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Speaker 6: a slightly higher level than Skinner right now if.

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Speaker 3: She Loves Boy. Even though he's you.

547
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Speaker 6: Know, not played in the sand Cup Final the last

548
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Speaker 6: two years, he did beat Nashville in the series for

549
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Speaker 6: Vancouver two years ago, he did win the AHL Championship

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Speaker 6: last season, and he has done some unbelievable things for

551
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Speaker 6: Latvia internationally. He's only twenty four years old, so he

552
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Speaker 6: actually has a history of playing really well in high

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Speaker 6: pressure environments. Add it all up, I think he's probably

554
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Speaker 6: the guy, and he is playing Tony that he has

555
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Speaker 6: been really really good with. We tend to focus on

556
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Speaker 6: the shootouts and his issues with them, and understandably so

557
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Speaker 6: it's been a real problem. But if you ignore that

558
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Speaker 6: and just look at his quality of work, otherwise, this

559
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Speaker 6: is a pretty darn good looking twenty four year goaltender.

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Speaker 6: Just looking at the future Tom and if he and

561
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Speaker 6: Sergayme miroshop are like one in one a the next

562
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Speaker 6: couple of years, that might not be a bad thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I completely agree, if you forget the shootouts she loves.

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Speaker 1: I think has clearly been a great goaltender this year.

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Speaker 1: Twenty four years old too, So the bright future. Could

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Speaker 1: you see them sticking with the rotation in the playoffs,

567
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Speaker 1: which is not something that teams do.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess it's possible, right, not at all.

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Speaker 1: The Skinner rotated a bit last year with the Oilers too,

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Speaker 1: Now that was because they were stinking back and forth,

571
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Speaker 1: but right.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I've kind of been waiting for one person

573
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Speaker 6: to kind of grab the reins.

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Speaker 3: But it's not like either one has been bad. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they've both been really good.

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Speaker 6: So if I had to pick, let's say the Penguins

577
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Speaker 6: do indeed make the playoffs and you know, Game one

578
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Speaker 6: against Columbus or whoever it is in the middle of April.

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Speaker 6: I would guess she loves would be the guy for

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Speaker 6: the entire series, but they wouldn't hesitate to go to

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Speaker 6: Skinner either. It's one of those situations where there would

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Speaker 6: probably be a very quick hook because I do think

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Speaker 6: they have a sincere amount of confidence and both of them,

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Speaker 6: why wouldn't they They've both been really good.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever seen a team that's as snake bitten

586
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Speaker 1: as the Penguins are in shrutouts? I mean, one in

587
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Speaker 1: ten in a perverse way is almost as impressive as

588
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Speaker 1: being ten and one.

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Speaker 6: I know, I almost I almost want to like walk

590
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Speaker 6: in the locker room and get them a hug afterwards,

591
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Speaker 6: like like I like, they're my children, like you, like

592
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Speaker 6: it's getting that painful to watch.

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Speaker 1: Before the Hurricanes one Josh, I'm sitting in my basement.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, they're they're due, right, they gotta be due.

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Speaker 3: This is it?

596
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Speaker 2: And then Skinner makes the same in Kindle scores and

597
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Speaker 2: I'm like, it's happening. And then of course they lose.

598
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Speaker 3: I know, they actually took the lead.

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Speaker 6: That might have been the first time they've taken a

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Speaker 6: lead in it good point, I mean, honestly, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't one other time. It's very rare.

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Speaker 6: No, I don't know if to just scat them. I

603
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Speaker 6: think it's probably Honestly, though, I have the sense it's

604
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Speaker 6: in everybody's head at this point. I think it's in

605
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Speaker 6: the goaltenders heads. I think it's in the players. That's

606
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Speaker 6: one in ten in shootouts is unfathomable. And Tom, if

607
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Speaker 6: they were like even average and shootouts, oh they'd be

608
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Speaker 6: they'd be like on the verge of passing Carolina for

609
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Speaker 6: the division lead.

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Speaker 3: If they were good and shootouts, we'd be talking President Trophy.

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Speaker 7: I'm not right, which which might be Like listen, if

612
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Speaker 7: you look at it like from a glass half full standpoint,

613
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Speaker 7: the team almost never loses in regulation, right, that's a

614
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Speaker 7: really good sign moving forward.

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Speaker 3: No shootouts in the playoffs, you just got to get there.

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Speaker 1: And they're not terrible at overtime either. I know there's

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Speaker 1: no three on three overtime in the playoffs, but they're not.

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Speaker 1: They're four and five and ot. So, like they're not awful,

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Speaker 1: they're their average. No, No, they've gotten better. That's been

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Speaker 1: an issue the last couple of years.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, so the whole thing for the Penguins, the

622
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Speaker 6: way I look at it is just find a way

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Speaker 6: to get to the playoffs, and obviously being better in

624
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Speaker 6: shootouts plays a role. I thy can just find a way.

625
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Speaker 6: Like some things kind of fall under their favor when

626
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,959
Speaker 6: you look at like the Islanders, who are a good example.

627
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Speaker 6: The Islanders need those extra points to be where they

628
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Speaker 6: are in the standings. The Penguins could be so far

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Speaker 6: ahead of them because I actually think they're a better team.

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Speaker 1: Last thing for you here, Josh, and it has to

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Speaker 1: do with the Penguins making the playoffs. Columbus just is

632
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Speaker 1: not going to go away, are they. I thought that

633
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Speaker 1: they would potentially fade a bit down the stretch, but

634
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Speaker 1: they are continuing their hot places, making the coaching change.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they are in their schedules not that tough the

636
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 6: rest of the way. It actually does get tougher in April,

637
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 6: but right now it's pretty soft. I think Columbus is legit.

638
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 6: I think they're better than the Islanders. Between those three teams,

639
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 6: the Penguins, Islanders and Columbus, all three of them could

640
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 6: get in. There's a real chance one of them won't.

641
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 6: And they're all on pace for one hundred points right now.

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00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 6: That tells you what a dog fight it is. That

643
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 6: also tells you why the Penguins need to survive the

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00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 6: next ten days with the schedule, And it's not just

645
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 6: this trip. They come home and they've got Dallas and

646
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Speaker 6: Colorado not long after that at home. If they can

647
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 6: just play five hundred hockey between now and then the

648
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 6: Penguin schedule really softens up in April, they've got a

649
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Speaker 6: nice cushy last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: If they can.

651
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Speaker 6: Still be in playoff position ten to fourteen days from now,

652
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Speaker 6: I really think they're in good shape.

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Speaker 2: Josh has always great stuff.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us from the casino floor, and enjoy

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Speaker 1: the rest of the road trip.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you next week.

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Speaker 3: All right, all right, thanks Tom.

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Speaker 1: That's Josh Jowey from the Athletic. You hear him every

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Speaker 1: Thursday here on the Mark Madshow. Great hockey talk there

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Speaker 1: with Josh when we come back. What do I got

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Speaker 1: for you when we come back? Oh, something that we're

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Speaker 1: all enjoying is Pittsburgh sports fans. Again, that has not

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Speaker 1: been a part of our lives very much for the

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Speaker 1: past couple of years. We'll get into that next. Tom

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Speaker 1: offer an Infra Mark It's one of five on the X.

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Speaker 1: dot com, Quick Steelers News. All Pro Special Teamer Miles

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Speaker 1: Killerbrew has signed with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on a

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Speaker 1: one year contract, so he follows Special teams coordinator Danny

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Speaker 1: Smith to Tampa Bay. The Steelers special team's ace for

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Speaker 1: the past few seasons, Miles Killerbrew has picked up a

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Speaker 1: first Team All Pro as a special teamer in that

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Speaker 1: span as well, will now be a Tampa Bay Buccaneer.

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Speaker 2: That's all right.

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Speaker 1: They got guys that are kind of ready to take

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Speaker 1: on that role. Ben Skronic did a good job last year.

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Speaker 1: Win Killerbrew tore his knee up and had to leave

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Speaker 1: for the remainder of the season, and you got a

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Speaker 1: Carson Brunner that's kind of developing into that kind of

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Speaker 1: special team's ace mold as well.

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Speaker 2: But Miles Killerbrew, in.

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Speaker 1: His time as a Pittsburgh Steeler has officially come to

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Speaker 1: an end. One thing that's back as Pittsburgh sports fans

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Speaker 1: right now, and it has hasn't been too too long

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Speaker 1: since it's gone away. But go with me on this

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Speaker 1: scoreboard watching every night when it comes to the NHL.

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Speaker 1: Where are the Islanders doing? What are the Blue Jackets doing?

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Speaker 1: Take a peek at the Red Wings, take a peek

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Speaker 1: at the Bruins. He's gotta have a good plan b right,

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Speaker 1: Let's see if the wild card could potentially come to

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Speaker 1: fruition here if the Jackets do catch us for top

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Speaker 1: three in the metro. So it's such a stressful thing.

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Speaker 1: It makes you feel so alive as a sports fan,

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Speaker 1: and it really has just reignited my hatred of the

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Speaker 1: New York Islanders because every freaking time I'm watching the

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Speaker 1: scoreboard with this team, you know, they're down three to one.

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Speaker 2: I think that this is good. They're gonna lose. Those

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Speaker 2: are the Blues.

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Speaker 1: The same night the Penguins play the Hurricane's Tuesday Night,

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Speaker 1: and then I check again after the Penguin game and

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Speaker 1: it's four three Islanders winning overtime.

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Speaker 2: They get both points. They are the devil walking the earth,

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Speaker 2: the New York Islanders. I hate them.

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Speaker 1: The scoreboard watching man such a staple of sports fandom,

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Speaker 1: right and again we have had it with the Penguins

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Speaker 1: in the past couple years. But it's been so depressing,

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Speaker 1: right because the Penguins were in their decline, and it

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Speaker 1: was such a struggles like pulling teeth the past couple

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Speaker 1: of seasons, just trying to make that push to the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: and it was just a very depressing kind of scoreboard watching.

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Speaker 2: This one's fun this year. This one's exciting, stressful, but exciting.

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Speaker 1: Because the Penguins are up and coming. You think elements

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Speaker 1: of them are up and coming. You think you got

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Speaker 1: an eighteen year old kid that is looking the part

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Speaker 1: of a top six player in the NHL, probably a

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Speaker 1: very good second line center at his absolute peak. You

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Speaker 1: got a good goalie in the pipeline. You've got some

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Speaker 1: stuff for the future that excites you. And the here

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Speaker 1: and now is going well too for the Pittsburgh Penguins

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Speaker 1: as well. So scoreboard watchings back, what are the Islanders doing?

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Speaker 1: The Blue Jackets And as I said with Yoe, the

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Speaker 1: Blue Jackets just are not going away.

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Speaker 2: Here's what the scoreboard looks like tonight.

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Speaker 1: As far as implications for the Penguins. The Blue Jackets

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Speaker 1: take on the Florida Panthers in Florida. The Bruins again,

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Speaker 1: if you want to keep an eye on those wild

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Speaker 1: card teams play the Sharks in Boston. Detroit goes to

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay to take on Tampa Bay. I guess if

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Speaker 1: you still want to entertain the Flyers somewhat. They are

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Speaker 1: at Minnesota tonight against the Wild who have eighty seven points,

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Speaker 1: one of the best teams in hockey, so hopefully they

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Speaker 1: take care of Philly and the Capitals, who also have

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Speaker 1: seventy one points same as Philly. They take on the

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Speaker 1: Sabers tonight in Buffalo, one of the hottest teams in

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Speaker 1: the NHL. Penguins, of course, are at Vegas taking on

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Speaker 1: the Golden Knights. We'll talk about that a lot more

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Speaker 1: later on in the show, but when I come back,

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Speaker 1: I want to get into the Ravens Max Crosby situation

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Speaker 1: and some of the comments that were made by Ravens

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Speaker 1: GM Eric DaCosta yesterday. If you if you want to

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Speaker 1: know what a liar sounds like, just stick around.

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Speaker 2: You'll hear. In thirty seconds Tom up from an Infomark

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