1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: Buss your base, body Balance, Brosmer. 2 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: Leader Fan Fan Radio Network, would you see the game? 3 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 3: And k fa N dot Com two minutes and twenty 4 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 3: one seconds past the hour three o'clock Central Standard time. 5 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: Welcome back. 6 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 3: It is a Monday post mortem edition of the Bumper 7 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 3: to Bumper program on a rather overcast Monday afternoon here 8 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 3: in the Twin cities of Minneapolis and Saint Paul. I 9 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 3: am the host of the program. My name is Dan Barero. 10 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 3: Brett Blakemore is in for Guardsy again today. Who is 11 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 3: I believe in the Bahamas tracking the Golden Golfer women's 12 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 3: basketball team participating in whatever the Bahamas tournament is this 13 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 3: time of year. So Guardsy is out today. Guards He 14 00:00:55,040 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: is also I Believe out tomorrow, and we have nevertheless 15 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 3: a powerpack broadcast for you today that includes some bonus Louis. 16 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,639 Speaker 3: Louis could not go tomorrow, so we're squeezing him in today. 17 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,559 Speaker 3: He's going to join us probably about five thirty. I'm 18 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 3: renegotiating with Johnny Athletic as I screwed up the time. 19 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 3: Originally it said five oh two on him forgetting the 20 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 3: Liebers four forty seven, So being the accommodating sort that 21 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 3: Johnny is he is going to join now at four 22 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,199 Speaker 3: oh two, right after Adam feeling. So that's the plan, 23 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 3: and that means you're back on the hook for a 24 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 3: top five and five, which is I know all you 25 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 3: care about. I could tell I saw the look on 26 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 3: your face, like, oh God, I'm going to do it. 27 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 3: There should be more than enough on the basis of 28 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 3: a very busy weekend to fulfill the top five at five. 29 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 3: Vikings talking points will be a part of the equation 30 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: today as well. I've not gotten to hear a lot 31 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: of the station today. I'm assuming there's been a lot 32 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 3: of fear and loathing expressed. 33 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: I know there was. 34 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 3: I did hear a decent amount of Vikings why line 35 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 3: yesterday and it got pretty ugly. Then the question on 36 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 3: the table is the obvious one. And by the way, there, 37 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 3: I think I'm told we're I was warned that we're 38 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 3: like redoing how we sign in the bratch on Brian 39 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 3: Cafe in text line, and already what I was told 40 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: was going to happen isn't happening in terms of my 41 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 3: ability to reset. So bear with me on that. I 42 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 3: hope sometime between now and six thirty, we'll get that 43 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 3: figured out. But it's it's, it's it was. It's not 44 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: going the way I had been told it was going 45 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 3: to go. So we'll see if we can figure the 46 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 3: whole thing out before six thirty. 47 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 2: In the meantime, you can still vent. 48 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 3: I'm just not as certain that i'll be I'm gonna 49 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 3: be able to get to exactly what you have to offer. 50 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 2: I don't know where to begin. 51 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 3: I think what's interesting about today's development is my gut 52 00:02:55,120 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 3: tells me that heads perked up, perhaps aps more than 53 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 3: they should on the basis of the door being opened 54 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 3: to JJ McCarthy not participating in the Seahawks game and 55 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 3: Max Brosmer being the starting quarterback for the Vikings. I 56 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 3: believe this season is unsavable the season, But if you 57 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 3: live in a week, regardless of how good Brozmer plays, 58 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 3: if indeed he does play, I think this season is 59 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 3: effectively over for the Vikings from a playoffs standpoint. 60 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 2: But the world of. 61 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: Tracking your favorite National Football League team is there's almost 62 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 3: two layers to it. There's the there's the larger view, 63 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 3: which is about making, you know, getting into playoffs and 64 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 3: making runs. But there's another view, and that is I 65 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 3: just want a couple natural highs on Sunday. Give me 66 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 3: something I can grab onto that might make me feel 67 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 3: a little better in the wake of another terrible road 68 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 3: performance by the Viking and an even worst performance. Obviously 69 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 3: if from the quarterback, you know JJ McCarthy, so just 70 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 3: you're gonna grab onto whatever you can, that says, oh, 71 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 3: maybe there is a reason for me to pay attention, 72 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: or maybe there is a reason for me to to 73 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 3: uh actually watch a decent amount of the game in 74 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: Seattle next Sunday against the Seahawks. That's my My sense 75 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 3: of it is the just this, even if you know 76 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 3: deep down, well, what can we really do to salvage it. 77 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 3: I just want a week where I see some competence 78 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 3: at the position, see something different, a flash where I go, 79 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 3: wait a minute, now, maybe we do have a young quarterback, 80 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 3: it's just not the one who is highly tootored. 81 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 2: That's I think that's the way the. 82 00:04:54,720 --> 00:05:00,039 Speaker 3: Mind of your average fan in this case Vikings fan works, 83 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 3: and I can understand that to a certain degree. I 84 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 3: really can. It's human nature to just give me something, 85 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 3: throw me a lifeline, and I won't give myself into 86 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 3: thinking that means we can turn around this whole season. 87 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 3: But I got to see something different, and I know 88 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 3: that the head coach today, in revealing the concussion protocol 89 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 3: status of JJ McCarthy, insisted that no decisions have yet 90 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 3: been made. McCarthy's been in meetings, etc. I'm not here 91 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 3: to tell you that I think it's a slam dunk 92 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 3: that Brozmer plays, but I now believe, I really do 93 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 3: believe that regardless of the condition of the team, it 94 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 3: would be in the best interests, the best interest I 95 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 3: should say, well, maybe interest if you want to include 96 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 3: the entire organization, but best interest in terms of JJ 97 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 3: McCarthy for him to not play this week, whether he 98 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 3: is cleared from concussion protocol or not. And that's not 99 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 3: me saying, well, wait a minute, what's the point of 100 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 3: this season, don't you if the discussion is he's not 101 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 3: had enough reps, as ugly as it is, as painful 102 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 3: as it is, don't you have to keep throwing him 103 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 3: out there and trying to find out You're trying to 104 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 3: find out can he swim? At some point? Can he 105 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 3: learn to swim? Because otherwise, what's the point of even 106 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 3: drafting him in the first place. We're going to give 107 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 3: up on him this easily. But I do believe in 108 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 3: something called what's the term for it. I guess it 109 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 3: would be just the concern about the mental state of 110 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 3: a struggling player, a struggling young player. 111 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 2: Who has been led to believe this is his. 112 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 3: Job and the world is his oyster, and there's no 113 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 3: reason he can't hit the ground running that you may 114 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 3: you run the risk at this point, after that most 115 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 3: recent monstrosity of a game in Green Bay, of losing 116 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 3: the player forever. I believe in that. I believe in 117 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 3: that concept, and so I think it would be in 118 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 3: the bed now. 119 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: It may be people. 120 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 3: Are gonna they're going to offer their own conspiracy theories 121 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: on whether this was a made up injury. I get that. 122 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 3: I understand the suspicion part of it has been bred 123 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 3: by what happened the last time he was sidelined. You remember, 124 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 3: there was nothing after the game about the injury, and 125 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 3: that didn't mean ultimately the injury was made up, but 126 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:54,679 Speaker 3: it did make it seem as if they didn't mind 127 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: it then, or they were going to kind of almost 128 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 3: encourage the possibility that he's hurt and we're going to 129 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 3: sit so you can say, to a certain extent, maybe 130 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 3: they were worried about his mental health then, and we're 131 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 3: kind of glad that he wasn't available. But I would say, 132 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 3: after this last, this game in Green Bay, I've been 133 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 3: watching football a long time. I got to tell you, 134 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 3: boys and girls, I don't know that I've ever seen 135 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 3: a quarterback as ill equipped to play at this level 136 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 3: right now as JJ McCarthy is right now. So I 137 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 3: honestly believe that, as dangerous as it is, I know you, 138 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 3: oh yeah, if you sit him, well, then what isn't 139 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 3: that going to hurt him even more? 140 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: Is that you're saying we've already given. 141 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 3: Up on him. You can, you don't have You don't 142 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 3: have to present it that way. You can present it 143 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 3: as we're gonna sit down and go over some stuff 144 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 3: that we think JJ needs to go over and we 145 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 3: need to go over with him. We're gonna give him 146 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 3: a break, we're gonna have him a little time off. 147 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 3: Doesn't mean I don't believe that you can't go back 148 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 3: to him at some point, or that you're utterly and 149 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 3: completely done with him. But in fairness to everybody else 150 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 3: on your team, I just don't think you can play 151 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:06,479 Speaker 3: him with a straight. 152 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 2: Face right now, not this week. 153 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 3: And the bad news for Brozemer is that's a tough 154 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 3: opening act anyway. You're going to a tough place to 155 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 3: play Seattle, a good team on the road, etc. But 156 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 3: I felt I've said this before and this is going 157 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: to be the cruel part. It may well be that 158 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 3: right now Max Brosmer is better prepared to do the 159 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 3: basic mechanics that we associate with professional quarterbacking play. He's older, 160 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 3: His game is less about his athleticism. He's a quick 161 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 3: decision maker guy. That's how he had the success to 162 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 3: the degree he did at the University of Minnesota. Now 163 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 3: that doesn't ultimately mean that he's going to be the 164 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 3: best option in two or three years, because this whole 165 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 3: game is about what it's just about now. It's about 166 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 3: quote unquote cliched upside, and that's where things could get funky. 167 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 3: Brozemer plays reasonably well and somehow the Vikings win. 168 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 2: Then have you fallen? 169 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: Have you? 170 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 3: Have you basically forced yourselves into a trap, whether you 171 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 3: have to continue to play him, whether you and your 172 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 3: heart of hearts as a head coach, as a quarterback. 173 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 3: Whisperer believes that long term, he has a Max Brozemer 174 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 3: has the best chance to becoming a franchise quarterback. That's 175 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 3: what's funky about this whole situation. But I just don't 176 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 3: think in the short run. I mean, there's limits to 177 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 3: to me, you know, I said the last time Carson 178 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 3: Wentz played that the coach should have put him out 179 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 3: of his misery. 180 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 2: I thought it was. 181 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 3: Inexcusable that he continued to play, regardless of whether he 182 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 3: could have been any more injured than he already was. 183 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 3: I'll say I'm pretty close to that same allegation here. 184 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 3: If the starting quarterback JJ McCarthy play, it starts again. 185 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 3: I mean, there's a responsibility that I think in this 186 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 3: case a head coach has. A coach has to protect 187 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 3: his quarterback, not just in the case of Carson Wentz 188 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 3: on the physical side, but in the case of JJ 189 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 3: McCarthy on the mental side. There's something almost abusive about 190 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 3: that right now in the basis of what we've we're seeing. 191 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 3: I mean, we've gone through the numbers before. I'll give 192 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 3: you some more today if it matters to you, but 193 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 3: you've read them. I'm sure heard of all the analytics 194 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 3: all day. They're historic even by rookie I should say 195 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 3: rookie first year. In terms of actual starts, first five 196 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 3: six seven starts, his numbers even by that standard are historic. 197 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 3: They're almost unprecedented. And in one of the analytics, I 198 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 3: think he's only ahead of since two thousand, like JaMarcus Russ, 199 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 3: and the list is almost as bad on a couple 200 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 3: of other analytics. 201 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 2: So my advice would be. 202 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 3: You sit him, not because you think it's over and 203 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 3: there's no chance he's irredeemable, but because in the short run, 204 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 3: I'm not sure that there's anything out there he's showing 205 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 3: you that indicates he's going to end up anything. But 206 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 3: despite his image and how you know, he's ready for everything, 207 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 3: and he's shaking hands all the time, he's got the 208 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 3: EyeBlack going, and he's in it, and he's tough and 209 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 3: it's just a matter of the cork off the bottle, 210 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 3: all that stuff. Yeah, I think you really you run 211 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 3: the risk of forget the head trauma he might have 212 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 3: from the concussion, I just think the trauma emotionally for 213 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 3: continuing to play, no matter what his reputation is, no 214 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 3: matter what teammates say about him, whatever, If you keep 215 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 3: throwing him out there at this point, I think it's cruel, 216 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 3: not for us, not for fans to watch, I think 217 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 3: it's crul for him. So we'll see how it goes 218 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 3: as the week goes on and they have their out again. 219 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 3: That's the beauty of this situation is they have their out. 220 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 3: Whether you want to believe it or not, they're out. 221 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 3: Can be concussion protocol. We've got to play this thing out. 222 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 3: He's discussed some symptoms and we're big believers. I heard 223 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 3: Koc say that today. I'm the fan, big believers in 224 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 3: the following the protocol. There's no pressure, no argument from 225 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 3: here from us, et cetera. So to a certain extent, again, 226 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 3: you don't even have to say out loud what I'm 227 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 3: saying regarding saving JJ McCarthy from himself. You can just say, 228 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 3: we got to let this thing play out. And as 229 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 3: the week goes on, it's becoming clear that he's not 230 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 3: gonna be able to go full So we're gonna go 231 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 3: ahead in fairness to this team, and we're gonna we're 232 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 3: gonna go with the guy who will be able to 233 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 3: practice and is healthy from the beginning. 234 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 2: That's sort of I think the where. 235 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 3: We're at at this particular moment. All right, let's we 236 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 3: doing doing bonus Bucks this week? We're not bonus bucks 237 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 3: are out right now. Eventually I hope to have access 238 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 3: to the batchrond on Brian Cafe in text line. More 239 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 3: on that later, but you can also you can always 240 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 3: tweet me Dan burrero Kfan if that's the better way 241 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 3: for you to get whatever your point is across. And 242 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 3: for the Brozmer Brownstone folks, it is the great central 243 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 3: irony that this is the day or a day when 244 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 3: the Brozemer possibility is open wide and the number one 245 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 3: Brozmer fan in the universe is nowhere near this studio. 246 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 3: He noted that irony as well. And I think it's 247 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 3: rare when a person who's hanging in the Bahamas is 248 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 3: suffering for more fomo than those of us who are 249 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 3: up here preparing for twenty five degree weather. It's suppostly 250 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 3: the other way around, where we have fomo for where 251 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 3: he is right now. I think Guardie's got fomo that 252 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 3: he's not up here celebrating the possibility. Finally, the door 253 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 3: opening to a Brozemers start for the Minnesota Vikings. 254 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 4: If you want to time to know what's happening with 255 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 4: your favorite KFN shows. You can you can make your 256 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 4: voice heard on the Brad Sjohn Bryant kfan text line. 257 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 4: So that'shone you have to say by texting your message 258 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 4: A six four six eighty six at six four six 259 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 4: eight six Stanner text message in data right spot. 260 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 2: Uh. 261 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 3: Look, I'm well aware that there were a number of 262 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 3: other dysfunctional aspects to the Vikings performance. They go beyond 263 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 3: the quarterback. Some of those will be covered in Vikings 264 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 3: talking points today. Adam Feelin is going to join us, 265 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 3: as I said at the bottom of this hour. But 266 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 3: I'll also tell you that one particular issue is on 267 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 3: its own plateau, and to a large extent, it's affecting 268 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 3: everything else that this team is able to do from 269 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 3: an offensive standpoint, and quite frankly, it can end up 270 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 3: having effects elsewhere on the team. I'm not saying it's 271 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy's fault that we had to screw up on 272 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 3: the putt return, but again you have to this is 273 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 3: not an indictment of the pick. This is not an 274 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 3: indictment which I endorsed. It's not a rejection of the 275 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 3: notion that JJ McCarthy can ever amount to anything. This 276 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 3: is just living in the present and analyzing what the 277 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 3: analytics say and what your eyes tell you. 278 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 2: This is not sustainable. 279 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 3: You have almost zero chance to win football games with 280 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 3: this level of incompetence at the quarterback position. 281 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 2: It's just everything. 282 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 3: It's too important a position to not be able to 283 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 3: understand that. And I think I'm hoping that mc bobo's, 284 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 3: who've always been defensive, can accept that now at some 285 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 3: point they can't keep turning their heads away. 286 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 2: I don't think for what we're seeing. I mean, we 287 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 2: finally saw. 288 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 3: This was the week that we saw the head coach 289 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 3: become Mike Zimmer in terms of conservative play calling. I mean, 290 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 3: he couldn't have been any clearer in the approach he took, 291 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 3: favoring the running game, which was at times very good, 292 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 3: short passing game, Let's just keep it close and then 293 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 3: we might have something. And you know what, boys and girls, 294 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 3: without the muff punt, Who's this wasn't really a muff punt, 295 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 3: but of the fumble off the foot, who's to say 296 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 3: that the Vikings might have been able to hang in 297 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 3: there and at least make it a game that didn't 298 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 3: look quite as lopsided as it ended up being. Now 299 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 3: long term, is it a way? Is it sustainable for 300 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 3: an offensive approach? No, it's certainly not. But you're living 301 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 3: again in the present and all you're trying to do 302 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 3: is get a little something going to help you try 303 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 3: to maybe get to the next bridge, where at that 304 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 3: point you add another little piece, or you add something 305 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 3: that's a little bit more daring, or something that might 306 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 3: be a little bit more difficult. 307 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 2: But come on, it's We can talk. 308 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 3: About drop passes, we can talk about the line not 309 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 3: being as good as it's supposed to be with finally 310 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 3: all the starters together. We can talk about the defensive 311 00:18:55,320 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 3: front giving up too many rushing yardage, too much from 312 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 3: the rushing standpoint to a running back that most of 313 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 3: us had not even heard of. 314 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 2: You had Brett Blake Moore. But that's about it. 315 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 3: But there's there's the The importance of the quarterback is 316 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 3: already clear. But then there's I think the intangible aspect 317 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 3: of what having no chance at that position invariably can do, 318 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 3: I believe to the rest of the club, and I 319 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 3: don't expect Adam Thielen will acknowledge that or admit it. 320 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 2: I don't expect anybody to admit it. Who was it? Was? 321 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: Was it? 322 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 3: Martellis basically made it sound like he's been great. That's 323 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 3: about as believable as PJ. Fleck saying we really get 324 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 3: I don't care what anybody says. We still got a 325 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 3: really good football team. You can say it. And it's 326 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 3: your team, and and and if you're a teammate, you're 327 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 3: trying to stand tall for your player. But come on, man, 328 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 3: I mean we're watching this stuff these games, aren't you know, 329 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 3: you know, in a closed room where no one can 330 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 3: see them. We can all see what's going on. So 331 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 3: that's not very believable. In fact, do me a favor. 332 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 3: Will you look up time of possession? What was the 333 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 3: breakdown on time of possession for Vikings Packers? How much gloating, 334 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 3: by the way, have you been doing? I might add 335 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 3: quite a lot, not on these airwaves. 336 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: Not yet. 337 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 2: You haven't. Well you will, you'll get to get time. 338 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 4: Let's see here the Packers thirty seven minutes, fifteen seconds, 339 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 4: Vikings twenty two minutes, forty five. 340 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 3: Twenty two minutes, twenty two minutes. Is that is that hurtful? 341 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 3: That that that sort of disparity is kind of difficult 342 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 3: to shall we say overcome? 343 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 2: Is it not? Thirty seven to twenty two? That's tough? 344 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 3: It follows it dovetails perfectly. Gophers Northwestern Northwestern forty one minutes, 345 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 3: Golphers nineteen now go for offense at times did obviously 346 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 3: show a pulse, but those times of possession disparities for 347 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 3: both of our favorite football teams embarrassing. I mean that 348 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 3: sort of I think sort of captures exactly why we 349 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 3: were zero for two for very different reasons, but nevertheless, 350 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 3: oh for two over the weekend. I think there's any 351 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 3: way to get around that. Let's get on stay on schedule, 352 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 3: and prepare for a visit with Vikings wide receiver Adam Thielen. 353 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 3: And as I mentioned, Johnny athletic. Before we're done, he'll 354 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 3: be at four oh two liber regular time for him 355 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 3: for forty seven and then bonus Louis to celebrate another 356 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 3: day another shutout. So I literally that's all we do 357 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 3: at this point. So I figured I'd give you a 358 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 3: little bit of relief from the Twin savagery and we'll 359 00:21:50,440 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 3: get some Louis hockey conversation at fire. All right, we 360 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 3: are indeed back Vikings wide receiver Adam Thield kind of 361 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 3: enough to join us now via the Connectico Water Systems hotline. 362 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 3: I don't know some some weeks, I don't even know 363 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 3: where to begin, Adam and and I'm we were talking 364 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,239 Speaker 3: earlier in the in the in the program about the 365 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 3: current condition of the quarterback and the offense, and and 366 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 3: and so forth. You've been around, like I said before, 367 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 3: a lot of years. You've seen function, You've seen great function, 368 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 3: You've seen dysfunction as well. 369 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 2: What do you see right now? Or how does. 370 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 3: The team that has to have, you know, keep going 371 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 3: forward and keep playing. How do you get to a 372 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 3: place where you're not just mouthing the same things over again? 373 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 3: Because at some point you got to see some stuff 374 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 3: on the field, right, even you guys have to see 375 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,479 Speaker 3: some signs of progress, And it didn't look like there 376 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 3: were many signs of that in Green Bay. 377 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 2: What do you think? 378 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like we're in one of those moments 379 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: right now where the momentum kind of everything right now 380 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: is just kind of stacked against us. Right. We feel 381 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: like you're kind of in this hole and you're trying 382 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: to dig out, and you're digging it deeper, right, And 383 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: so it's it's not easy. It's it's it's tough. Everyone 384 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: is frustrated with maybe individually their play or as an 385 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: offense or team, and everyone has just kind of got 386 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 1: that kind of feeling that it's like, man, like, this 387 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: isn't where we thought we would be at this point 388 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: in the season, right. You put all the time in 389 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: the working and and there's just so much time that 390 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: you spend together as a team that you just have 391 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: high expectations for what you have and no one expected 392 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: us to be where we are. But at the end 393 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: of the day, you got to stay in the fight, 394 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: you know, And and I think natural instincts take you 395 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: to want to, you know, back down or pull out 396 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: and and give up, right, But like the real men 397 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: and the real leaders and the and the and the 398 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: teams that are built the right way, they stay in 399 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: the fight. You just keep showing up, You keep putting 400 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: it all in there. And it doesn't mean it's always 401 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: gonna look pretty, but but eventually it'll it'll it'll break 402 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: through when when you treat the game the right way 403 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: and you do things the right way, eventually it will 404 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: come come back to you. So that's kind of our 405 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: that's kind of our mindset, and we got the right 406 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: guys in the locker room. There's there's the right leadership 407 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: in there and and throughout the building that that can 408 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: withstand a really tough time. And we're in a tough 409 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: time right now. But we get six more weeks to 410 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: every week, every day prove who you are as an individual, 411 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: who you are as an offense, and who is a team, 412 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: and we'll see what that looks like. 413 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 3: So, you know, you were asked, I think you talked 414 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 3: about this, not so much with us, but with the 415 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 3: with the the general media, Minnesota media, regarding your own 416 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 3: experience in Carolina, right with Bryce Young, who obviously seems 417 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 3: to be in a much much better of more than 418 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 3: seems he isn't a much better place than he was 419 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 3: because there were times, it's certainly from afar, that looked hopeless. 420 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 3: So is there in your experience, in your opinion, is 421 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 3: there ever something constructive about sitting a young quarterback for 422 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 3: a while, for a week or two, or maybe even longer, 423 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 3: depending on the circumstance, depending on the situation, to say, 424 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 3: this isn't us giving up on you, but this is 425 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 3: us saying you need to break mentally and physically, because 426 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 3: we don't want you to end up being traumatized by 427 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 3: all this stuff that's going on. 428 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 2: And so let's have you sit watch a. 429 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 3: Little bit, and then we'll kind of regroup and reconvene 430 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 3: somewhere down the road. 431 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 2: Could do you think that might be helpful here? 432 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: You know, I think every situation is different, right, every situation, 433 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: as far as team, the the individual, the offense, where 434 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: you're at in the season, right as far as playoff 435 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: contention or not playoff conditions. Like, there's so many factors 436 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: that lead into those decisions. And at the end of 437 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,479 Speaker 1: the day, Thank the Lord, I'm not I'm not in 438 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: the position to have to make those decisions, but I 439 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: will say this, you know, I think I think what 440 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: I saw just from experience wise being around a few 441 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: different young quarterbacks, you know, a guy like Teddy or 442 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: or a guy like Bryce and and just some of 443 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: those guys, is whether it was sitting or whether it 444 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: was or it was just playing through some moments. I 445 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: think I think both of those moments have shaped who 446 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: you know. I look at Bryce Young for instance, like 447 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: he played through some really tough moments. You know, we 448 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 1: had very few wins, you know, everyone was talking bad 449 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: about him, writing them off. You know, his first year 450 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: in the NFL, going through some crazy stuff with the 451 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: coaching staff and firings and new play callers and different 452 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: offense changes throughout the season, Like there was a lot 453 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: of mess. And I think when you just stay in 454 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: the fight, like I talked about earlier, you stay in 455 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: the fight. I think those stuff, that stuff pays dividends 456 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: in the long run. And I'm not saying that there's 457 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: a there's not benefits to both of those things, but 458 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: there is. There is benefits to both of those things. 459 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,959 Speaker 1: And I've seen them firsthand. And I think if you 460 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: asked Bryce right today and said, you know, would you 461 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: change those circumstances, he'd probably say no because I think 462 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: I think it's really helped him and shaped him and 463 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: now he has those experiences to look back on. So 464 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: a long winded answer, but I think I think, you know, 465 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 1: you just keep fighting, You keep staying in the fight. 466 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 1: You give those guys opportunities to prove who they are 467 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: and what they can be for that team. 468 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 3: Did you guys know, have any idea after the game 469 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 3: that he might be dealing with some concussion. Look, at 470 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 3: least you know he's now in the protocol as the 471 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 3: head coach, as your head coach confirmed today, Did you 472 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 3: guys have any idea after the game that it might 473 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 3: be headed this way? 474 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: No, not not not after the game, but uh, I 475 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: think maybe on the on the airplane, you know, he 476 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: was expressing some discomfort. But uh, but yeah, obviously, Uh, 477 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,239 Speaker 1: we we have so much respect for him who he 478 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: is as a person, who is as a player, and 479 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: just his fight and you know he's gonna lay it 480 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: on the line every single every single game, every single practice, 481 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: and and you know, those are the guys you want 482 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: to stand behind and and play for play with, right, 483 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: The guys that are just they're built different, right, Like 484 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: they they want to be in the fight. You know, 485 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: they're not going to pull out and and and you know, 486 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: take themselves out of a game and things like that. 487 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, we're we're definitely in his corner for his 488 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: safety and we we want him out there and and 489 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: and obviously want him to be fully healthy too. 490 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 3: What is your refresh my memory on your concussion history? 491 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 3: Have you had to deal with this a little bit 492 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 3: a lot and in between what's your own history when 493 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 3: it comes to concussion concussion protocol. 494 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been in. I've been in the protocol, I 495 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: believe one time. Oh okay, only ones and uh yeah, 496 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: and so yeah, just kind of one of those things 497 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: where it's a little bit of a process and everybody 498 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: is so different depending on you know, how how the 499 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: body reacts, how the mind, how the brain kind of 500 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: bounces back, shakes back, and and yeah, just everyone's so different, 501 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: so it'll be it's it's one of those things where 502 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: you obviously cared more about the person than the player 503 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: in this moment, and you just want them to feel 504 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: good and and feel healthy and then and then see. 505 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 3: What happens the you know, well, you know, the league 506 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 3: has obviously evolved a great deal from my formative years 507 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 3: growing up watching football, where it was the old you know, 508 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 3: the you got his belt wrung and we'll we'll ask 509 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 3: you how many we're gonna hold up a few fingers 510 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 3: and if you answer correctly, get back out there. I mean, 511 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 3: we we've come a long way obviously since since then, 512 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 3: which I I think I would assume you would believe 513 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 3: is all to the good right to protect players. 514 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, come a long way in that area, which 515 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: is obviously great. Just to kind of diagnose and see 516 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: where you're at from a mental standpoint. And then I 517 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: also feel like, oh, I know that they've come a 518 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: long ways also with how to how to deal with 519 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: them and how to recover the brain as fast as possible. 520 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: And there's some really cool things that they're doing nowadays 521 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: to kind of really help kind of speed up that 522 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: process and not only just speed it up, but help 523 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: the over the long term, you know, health of the brain. 524 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: And so yeah, that's that's definitely obviously great for the 525 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: players and player safety and and just for helping guys 526 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: get out there and being at full strength. 527 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 3: Is there such a thing I don't want to turn 528 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 3: this into into concussion Central, but I'm kind of interested 529 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 3: in some of the details here because I see, In fact, 530 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 3: I think your center had one of those whatever they 531 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 3: call those concussion hats on top. But somebody told me 532 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 3: that there is such a thing as one, a different one, 533 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 3: a style of one that you can actually wear under 534 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 3: the helmet. 535 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 2: Is that true? 536 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 3: Do you know much about the protocol or what the 537 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 3: options are for players trying to protect themselves. 538 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know about the one underneath. I know 539 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: there's like the little neck thing that guys where that's 540 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: got some science behind it as far as preventing concussions maybe. 541 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: And then and then obviously the one on top that 542 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: you see a few guys wear in the league. That 543 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: kind of helps with, you know, eliminating some of the 544 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: chances of getting a concussion. So yeah, I think there's 545 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: some things out there that the league is willing to 546 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: let you try, which in the past they didn't, which 547 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: which is good. And I think you know, guys are 548 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: starting to kind of take that seriously and using those 549 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: resources to help them kind of deal with it, maybe 550 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: coming back or preventing in the first place. 551 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 3: Adam Feeling is with us here on the fan. John 552 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 3: Krasinski will join at the top of the hour. You're 553 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 3: pretty good about as a wide receiver of observing and 554 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 3: analyzing quarterbacks that you you know, spend time around, because 555 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 3: it's obviously a pretty important I mean, wide receivers kind 556 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 3: of depend on on what you know the quarterback capable 557 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 3: of doing what are And you've given us your impressions 558 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 3: from the beginning and the time you spent the last 559 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 3: couple of seasons with with JJ. Give me your impressions 560 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 3: what you have learned about Max Brosmer. You know, given 561 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 3: there certainly is at least a possibility that he could 562 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 3: be the guy for you guys in Seattle. 563 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a guy that you know, is 564 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: a true pro. Even though he's he's a rookie, he's 565 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,959 Speaker 1: a he's a true pro. The way that he handles 566 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: his business, the way that he handles every single day, 567 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: and taking full advantage of of reps, whether it be 568 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, behind the walk you're not in 569 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: the you know, the first team quarterback gets all the 570 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: reps and the walkthrough and all the reps in practice, 571 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: and for him to kind of take advantage of those 572 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: reps behind the actual play. He's one of those guys 573 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: that just he's a true pro. And then just you know, 574 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: been able to spend a lot of time with him 575 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: outside of practice just to kind of, you know, make 576 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: make sure I'm staying fresh and ready and and getting 577 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: some different throws and things like that on the side. 578 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: And he's just a guy that that you know, it 579 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: means a lot to him. And and he's got a 580 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: lot of skill. Obviously to be an undrafted guy and 581 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: to make and to make a team, you got to 582 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: show maybe even a little bit more than than the normal, 583 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: you know, drafted guy, just because there's no tie to you, 584 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: and so for them to cut somebody or trade someone 585 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: to kind of keep you, you obviously are showing something 586 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: a little bit more than the kind of normal, normal guy. So, yeah, 587 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: I think he's got a lot of skill. Uh, he's 588 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: a great teammate and and I think he has a 589 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: really good command of of the huddle and things like that. 590 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a it's a sport that you need 591 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: reps and and you need opportunity and and I'm sure 592 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: he'll get a lot of reps this week with the 593 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: with the concussion protocol and and then see what happens. 594 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 3: You know, he's a I think he's twenty four and 595 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 3: a half years old. And I know that's not everything, 596 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 3: but I wonder sometimes if that might help. Uh a QB, 597 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 3: you know, is as difficult as all this stuff is 598 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 3: to process, as much more challenging as it is at 599 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 3: this level than the college level. Uh. You know, he 600 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,240 Speaker 3: he was in college for a while. He took advantage 601 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 3: of the opportunities to stay a little bit extra. I 602 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 3: would assume that that might not hurt either, correct. 603 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's got a he's got a maturity 604 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: to him that you kind of feel, uh when you're 605 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: around him. Just his ability to kind of you know, 606 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: lead a little bit with a little bit beyond his years, 607 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: I guess you could say. And and uh, yeah, I 608 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,280 Speaker 1: think I think experience in college football, even even though 609 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: maybe it was it's not the NFL, but you know, 610 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: a lot of years of competition and playing a high level, 611 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: and and just the more you kind of see an 612 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: experience you have, I think can always can always help you, 613 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 1: uh definitely can't hurt you. So yeah, I think there's 614 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: a little bit of that. 615 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 3: The it looked like the approach and and Kose talked 616 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 3: about this after the game a little bit more today, 617 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 3: but more after the game was you know, all right, 618 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 3: we're going to run more than we maybe have in 619 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 3: the past the old We're gonna try to, you know, 620 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 3: gain some traction there. You talked us as recent as 621 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 3: last week about just needing more plays. You know, a 622 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 3: lot of times this year, you guys just haven't been 623 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 3: out there long enough to develop whatever you wanted to do. 624 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 3: And it looked like you guys have the running game 625 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 3: going pretty good, don't you think. 626 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. I think there was a time there, maybe 627 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 1: it was in the second quarter, that it was like 628 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: a few three, four or five runs in a row 629 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: that we're generating a couple explosives and then obviously first 630 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: downs and just giving that opportunity to just have more plays, 631 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: to have opportunity for explosive whether it be in the 632 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: run game or in the past game. And yeah, so 633 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: I think that that's obviously a positive. I think that's 634 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: something that we can lean on. And then we got 635 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: to find a way that when we get in those 636 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: situations where we can't necessarily run the ball because we're 637 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: we're not a lot of time left and and we're 638 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,919 Speaker 1: down by a couple scores or maybe it's just a 639 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: one score, you know, we have to make sure that 640 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: we're finding ways to move the ball that way too, 641 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 1: and using the run game to our advantage, get him out, 642 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 1: getting him out of shell coverage right by running the 643 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: running the ball well. And I think that's something that 644 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: we got to continue to lean on. 645 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 3: Your favorite, your best happiest Seattle moment in Seattle, and 646 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 3: maybe you're more nightmarish or one that there is one 647 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 3: that stands out to say, Oh my god, I don't 648 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,879 Speaker 3: like thinking about that any any any come to mind. 649 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think, you know, playing a lot 650 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 1: of games there, yes, which is not the easiest thing 651 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: because it's a little bit of a different you know, 652 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: time zone and a little bit of a flight and 653 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: things like that. But yeah, I think was it twenty twenty, 654 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 1: Maybe we went there and there wasn't a whole lot 655 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: of fans and we were able to win that game. 656 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: And then you know, there's been some of those games 657 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: where where they were really good, had a great defense, 658 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: I kind of had things rolling in the run game, 659 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: and and that crowd was gets gets pretty loud and 660 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: electric and you can barely hear yourself think. So I 661 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 1: looked at some of those games, You're like, man, I 662 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: don't know, this is gonna be a tough one and 663 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: makes it really difficult on the offense. So but yeah, 664 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: I think of those games that you can go in 665 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 1: there and win, it's kind of like Lambell, right, Like 666 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: it's the worst place to lose. It's just it's just 667 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: not a fun place to lose a football game. But 668 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: it's also one of the best places to win a game. 669 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: And I feel like that's very similar in Seattle, Like 670 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: when you can go in there and with that fan 671 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: base and and how much they care and and how 672 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: loud they are, and you can kind of quiet the 673 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: fans and and you can go in there and win. 674 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: It's there's just something a little extra special in that, 675 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: in that win. So I kind of look at those 676 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 1: wins as being being really cool to look back on. 677 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 2: How was the experience for your family in Green Bay. 678 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: And Lambea, Oh it was great. Yeah, they really enjoyed 679 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,760 Speaker 1: it the first time for my boys being there and 680 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: and uh yeah, I mean what a special place. Obviously 681 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 1: again not not a fun place to lose. You know 682 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: that that crowd cares a lot. But yeah, they they 683 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 1: definitely had a great experience and and thankful for that experience. 684 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 2: Thanks as always for the time, Adam. We'll chat next week. 685 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 3: Appreciate it all right, Thanks Adam Feeling Vikings wide receiver. 686 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 2: What can you say? 687 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 3: At some point this was sort of the message I 688 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 3: think out of the locker room last night. You know, 689 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 3: the jackals go to Jay the jackals. I know how 690 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 3: jackals operate. Believe me, I was one. I kind of 691 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 3: still am one, but in a different role. And so 692 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 3: every week the bit is we're going to the We're 693 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 3: going to justin Jefferson's locker wondering if this is the 694 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 3: week he blows? Is this the week he no longer 695 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 3: can hold it together? And goes Chris Carter and or 696 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 3: Randy Moss on the bit, that's basically what it is, 697 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 3: and JJ held up again. But in his words you 698 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 3: could tell he's like what I'm saying, the same thing 699 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 3: over and over again. You know, be patient, got to 700 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 3: wait it out the whole bit. But trust me, it 701 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 3: starts having a cumulative effect. No matter what players say publicly, 702 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 3: it has to. 703 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 2: That's human nature. 704 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 3: That they feel like they've got we got to have 705 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 3: a chance. We've got to have somebody out there that 706 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 3: kind of gives us a chance. And it's the catch 707 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 3: twenty two of this, the condition of the quarterback position 708 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 3: for this team, because again, you invest you draft a 709 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 3: player that high, you invest in him, you present him 710 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:28,280 Speaker 3: as the answer. 711 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 2: That's how you present him. 712 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 3: That's the way the game almost has to be played 713 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 3: a little bit when you make a selection that high 714 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 3: and then you say, well, he's not as ready as 715 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 3: we thought, but how's he going to get ready? Well, 716 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,800 Speaker 3: we got to play him we got to suffer the 717 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,959 Speaker 3: slings and arrows because we can point to a number 718 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 3: of other quarterbacks who struggled early and then look at 719 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 3: the way they came out the other side. But then 720 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,399 Speaker 3: I think there's also a point of diminishing return where 721 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 3: you go, well, is this sustainable? And am I losing 722 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 3: the rest of the team? Are are we losing the 723 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 3: rest of the team in the interim? No matter what 724 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 3: they publicly say, do we start running that risk where 725 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 3: they go, wait a minute, what are we doing? 726 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 2: We're kind of spinning our wheels here. 727 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 3: That's that's what makes this so fascinating but also so 728 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 3: complicated and so difficult as well. It's that sort of 729 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:25,240 Speaker 3: combo platter, I do think. And here's what's also compelling 730 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,879 Speaker 3: to me, Blake more about your club, and this might 731 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,359 Speaker 3: be very telling in terms of why your coach took 732 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 3: the approach he did. Because on the TV broadcast Play 733 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 3: with a Color analyst Guy a couple times said, Eh, 734 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 3: this game could be over over they're playing really, Packers 735 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 3: are really playing conservative. I mean all they're doing on 736 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 3: this drive is running. And my gut tells me that 737 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 3: it was the ultimate insult to the Vikings offense that 738 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,839 Speaker 3: your head coach said if we kick, if we keep 739 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,359 Speaker 3: kicking field goals, the game's over. 740 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:06,760 Speaker 2: Much as I'd rather go in for touchdowns. 741 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 3: If we just keep kicking field goals and not not 742 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 3: risking anything in terms of I and T, they're not 743 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 3: gonna be able to do anything about it. Against so 744 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,879 Speaker 3: many other offenses. I think you today might be lamenting 745 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 3: that conservative approach that it and that eventually it might 746 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,360 Speaker 3: have cost the Packers because they have to kept setting, 747 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 3: they had to keep selling for field goals. But in 748 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 3: this game, I don't think there was any reason to 749 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 3: believe that the especially as we got well into the 750 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,240 Speaker 3: second half. What the Vikings were in negative territory until 751 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 3: that last meaningless drive, right, I mean the they at 752 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 3: one point I think it was like minus twenty two. 753 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 3: It got a little bit better than that. So were 754 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 3: you at all concerned or you say, no, keep running it. 755 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 2: I'm not worried. 756 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 3: Just keep kicking the field goals, because if we get 757 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 3: it to three scores on the basis of like three 758 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 3: straight field goals, we'll win the game. 759 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's three parts of that. 760 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 4: I think part one is what you're saying that they 761 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 4: were confident the d defense to go out there and 762 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 4: make stops and Micah, no matter who he was lined 763 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 4: up against, is going to get unbelievable. So I think 764 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 4: it's a little bit of that. I think there's also 765 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 4: an element of Jordan Love having an ac joint sprain 766 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 4: in his left shoulder to where he's handing it off 767 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 4: with the wrong hand, you know, with his off hand, 768 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 4: because he doesn't want to use his left shoulder. Yes, 769 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 4: so you don't want to drop him back thirty forty 770 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 4: times and risk him getting hurt even further, especially going 771 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 4: to the litter box on Thursday. And I think the 772 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 4: other thing was that the run was working. Why stop 773 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 4: running the ball? Matt Lafleur's job is not to make 774 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 4: me happy, and we have Jordan Love go out there 775 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 4: and throw four touchdowns the shops and win football games. 776 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 4: If the run's working and Emmanuel Wilson's running for days, 777 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:41,760 Speaker 4: why stop? 778 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 2: Let's get a quick talking point. 779 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 3: In the first one on the list, I very affectionately 780 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 3: caught the the. 781 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 2: TJ Tush push Are you kidding me? 782 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,839 Speaker 5: Third and one McCarthy is out of the shot film, 783 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,800 Speaker 5: but it's going to be a direct snap to TJ 784 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 5: Howkinson who is hit at the line of scrimmage, and 785 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 5: I believe it was Howkinson. Whomever it was, he did 786 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 5: not get the first down. Yeah, TJ went under center 787 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 5: and he took the snap, but there was no tush push, 788 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 5: nobody to push Hawkinson, and that piece of trickery net 789 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 5: it nothing. 790 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 2: He's right, it's right. 791 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: Now. 792 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 3: That was the third down play, and then on the 793 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 3: fourth down they tried it so that I was at 794 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,320 Speaker 3: I think it was Mason, and that also got stopped. 795 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 2: I guess I somebody looked it up. I think TJ. 796 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 3: Hockinson has run the ball in that in anything like 797 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 3: that once in his whole career. He looked way too upright. 798 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:45,320 Speaker 3: He's too big, he's too tall. So I have no idea. Again, 799 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:46,839 Speaker 3: I don't have it at the top of my list 800 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 3: for why the uh the Vikings lost the game. But 801 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,359 Speaker 3: it made absolutely no sense to me. If I don't 802 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 3: think we should we should use the tush push at 803 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 3: all because we just don't have good success with it. 804 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 3: I'd rather hand the ball off twice and and hope 805 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 3: that one of those two times your running back is 806 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:03,839 Speaker 3: going to be able to make a play. But that 807 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 3: looked awful from the beginning. It didn't look like he 808 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 3: even understood what to do or where to go. And 809 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 3: as Pia said, no one was pushing, which is also 810 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 3: a little bit strange. 811 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 1: You know. 812 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,359 Speaker 2: The idea is you think wasn't supposed to be pushing. 813 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 2: It's not much of a time. He's awful big maybe 814 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 2: that's why, but I mean he was did you did 815 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:22,359 Speaker 2: you remember that play? 816 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 3: He was too upright, he was up too high, and 817 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 3: he was looking around like where do I go? That 818 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 3: did not look I don't know how much we practiced it, 819 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,880 Speaker 3: but it did not look very good in execution. 820 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 4: I think the idea is it's supposed to be the 821 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 4: ele on a surprise that the oh he's motioning, Oh wait, no, 822 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 4: he's under center. 823 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 3: But it just didn't really have that. All right, let's 824 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 3: make this the top of the hour. Pause John Athletic. 825 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 3: We'll get his reaction to Vikings Packers, the possibility, probably likelihood, 826 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 3: that Brozemer is the starting quarterback. 827 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 2: Where do the Vikings go from here? 828 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 1: On? 829 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy. Is the era over before it is almost begun? 830 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 3: Or is that a bit premature? We'll get it, get 831 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 3: to a Wolve's meltdown. From last Friday. That was one 832 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,240 Speaker 3: for the ages, even for a team that's had some 833 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 3: remarkable meltdowns over the decades. And who knows what else 834 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,399 Speaker 3: that's coming up right around the corner.