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Speaker 1: Against the Vikings, Teror Austin's unit forced two turnovers and

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Speaker 1: now offensively, the team did enough to win. The run

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Speaker 1: Metcalf beyond just these on field angles. Though this is

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Speaker 1: There was plenty of applause after the Steelers opened up

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Speaker 1: Overall, Rogers has definitely been a plus player at the

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Speaker 1: a game between the Chargers and the Colts where if

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Speaker 1: So what are the Steelers supposed to do with that?

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Speaker 1: because of what the Steelers just did, to themselves. I

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Speaker 1: think for all those reasons, the Steelers win and bounce

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Speaker 1: back this week because this is what they do. But

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Speaker 1: then the next two weeks I think are very much

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Speaker 1: up for grabs. We've seen the coaching issue between Tomlin

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Speaker 1: it comes to dealing with multiple weapons at wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be stunned if they walk away to and

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Speaker 1: I'll underscore that point again. They've got what I think

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Speaker 1: small time for this team that has as many holes

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Speaker 1: in it as it does. Let's go to Phil calling

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Speaker 3: Hey, Kim, what man?

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Speaker 2: What's happening?

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Speaker 3: So I think the ceiling is one in two, which

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they could do that too, because again, this is

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Speaker 1: and as send, they're always very good in October in November.

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Speaker 1: This is usually the time where the defense coalesces with

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Speaker 1: the Ravens have gotten better, the Ravens have gotten healthier.

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Speaker 1: see it, appreciate it eight three, three, four one two

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Speaker 1: Sports Pittsburgh nine seventy for countdown to Kickoff. You can

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Speaker 6: than they should be. They made mental airs, they made

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Speaker 6: alignment airs, they made coaching mistakes, and frankly, the big

438
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 6: thing I said Friday was I can kind of live

439
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 6: with Chase and Higgins on so many quick hitting routes

440
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 6: putting up the numbers they did. Okay, Chase was the

441
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 6: best player on the field.

442
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Speaker 1: I think we lost Matt maybe we can try to

443
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: get him back, but where he was going with it,

444
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,679
Speaker 1: I agree Chase was the best player on the field.

445
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,439
Speaker 1: But at some point then you've got to change what

446
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 1: you're doing against Tim or at some point then you

447
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 1: got to change what you're doing against Higgins, or if

448
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: you're getting so much attention on those two guys, you

449
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: can't allow yourself to be beaten by Yoshivas, which they

450
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: were on that play. That Flacco was giddy about discussing

451
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: when he went on the Prime Video postgame show and said, well,

452
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,919
Speaker 1: when they doubled those two guys, we were waiting for it,

453
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 1: we expected it, and then they hit Yoshivas over the

454
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Speaker 1: middle and got a huge gain. That's what you can't

455
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 1: do and what you have to do then if you're

456
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 1: gonna get torched in the secondary is you have to

457
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: apply pressure upfront. And they were unable to apply pressure upfront,

458
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: which is where I thought they should have an ability

459
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Speaker 1: to win, especially after what we saw against the Vikings

460
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Speaker 1: and the Browns. What we saw against the Vikings and

461
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,719
Speaker 1: the Browns, I thought was a pass rush that had,

462
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: if not gotten fixed, found itself. But then against a

463
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: still I thought vulnerable Bengals offensive line, it didn't come through.

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Speaker 2: I think we got Matt back now.

465
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Speaker 1: So Matt, let's pick up where we left off what

466
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Speaker 1: you were talking about with Chase, and you were in

467
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 1: the middle of a thought of you could live with

468
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 1: it on those quick hitting routes, but and then we

469
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Speaker 1: lost you.

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Speaker 2: So what was the butt to that?

471
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I'm not sure how much you got, so

472
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 6: if I repeat myself, I apologize, But it's not Okay.

473
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Speaker 6: It was a terrible performance against Siggins and Chase. Okay,

474
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 6: but once in a while, Jordan scores fifty or sixty

475
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 6: points and it didn't matter who you put on Jordan,

476
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 6: he's still going to get his And I thought that

477
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 6: was Jamar Chase. I thought he was a special, special

478
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 6: player of that night, and it reminded the world that

479
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 6: he's one of the best receivers that's ever lived. Okay,

480
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 6: that's bad, but it's I get it. Sometimes people blow up,

481
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 6: and I definitely think the Steelers approach was First off,

482
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Speaker 6: I think that there's a misconception that they didn't make

483
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 6: any adjustments. Oh, they made a lot of adjustments. They

484
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 6: put every different player they possibly could on Chase, they

485
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 6: doubled them, they singled them, they played man, they played zone.

486
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 6: But what they didn't do was hardly play any press man.

487
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 6: And I didn't understand that approach because I'm sure they

488
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 6: went into that game saying we got to eliminate the

489
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Speaker 6: big play. I mean, we're going to score a lot

490
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Speaker 6: of points against the Bengals if we allow them to

491
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 6: have some long drives and complete a lot of passes,

492
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Speaker 6: so be it. Our defense will sack the quarterback, cause

493
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Speaker 6: more fumbles than our defense will make more big plays

494
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 6: than theirs in which didn't happen, and that's still a

495
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 6: the okay path to victory. But when the ball's coming

496
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 6: out in two point four seconds and you're still playing

497
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 6: off man coverage over and over, that makes little sense

498
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 6: to me. And what I was saying about, I can

499
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 6: kind of live with Chase and Higgins having huge nights,

500
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 6: but I can't couple that with awful run defense by

501
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 6: one of the worst running teams in the league.

502
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 2: Why did that happen?

503
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: Were they just losing upfront in individual battles Somewhat?

504
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 6: They reverted again to being a very poor tackling team,

505
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 6: which was the first two weeks of the year, and

506
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 6: I thought that was rectified, and I'm going to keep

507
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 6: bringing up because I hate it so much. You do

508
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 6: see that a lot in Thursday night games. Again, that's

509
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 6: not okay, but you do across the league. I do

510
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 6: think it's really really hard on the players. But the

511
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 6: other thing that cap happening too was if you look

512
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 6: at just the I don't have eight to ten Chase

513
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 6: Brown run that were substantial. You know that were five

514
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 6: plus yards. They were running right at gaps that nobody

515
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 6: was aligned it. You know that there was no formational

516
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 6: answer for it. And if it wasn't for Deshaun Elliott

517
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 6: cleaned them up eight ten yards downfield, they would have

518
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 6: been much higher. I mean, Elliott played a whale of

519
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 6: a game, but he's making great run plays on the

520
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 6: third level, which say what you want about Flaco, and

521
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 6: it's the same for true with Rogers. They're always going

522
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 6: to get you in the right plays. I mean, if

523
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 6: there's a B gap that nobody's aligned in, they're going

524
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 6: to run it there. And the same thing was true

525
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 6: and Steers had the ball, you know, I mean, just

526
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 6: these smart veteran quarterbacks give you a big advantage from

527
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 6: the neck up and Flacco still has that.

528
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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson with us, and I agree with your assessment

529
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: and your characterization of the misread by some who are

530
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: saying they didn't make any adjustments. They made adjustments when

531
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: it came to coverage on trying to slow those guys down.

532
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a slightly different version of that question, Matt,

533
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: did they make enough adjustments and good adjustments when it

534
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: came to their front seven in the pass rush, though, Well.

535
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 6: One thing I don't understand and never will unless there's

536
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 6: an injury that I don't know about, is how do

537
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 6: you reduce her big snaps.

538
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: Especially when you said that you were going to go

539
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: in the other direction and give him more.

540
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 6: Right, I mean, he's playing maybe better than anyone on

541
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 6: your defense. I mean he's rushing the passer as well

542
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 6: or better than everyone on your defense, including why so,

543
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 6: how on earth does that make any sense whatsoever? And

544
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 6: more Sawyer can't be the answer either, you know. I

545
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 6: mean I thought he had a rough game, and he's

546
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 6: clearly their fourth best edge guy, so I don't understand

547
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 6: that all in although we're seeing more Holcombe less Wilson,

548
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 6: I don't have a big problem with that. I did

549
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 6: notice and I'm going to do some research on it

550
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 6: on the splits, but I think their run defense when

551
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,719
Speaker 6: Harmon was not on the field was noticeably worse than

552
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 6: when he was, And I don't have the numbers to

553
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 6: back that up, but it really really passes the sniff

554
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 6: test after watching the film, which is a testament to him.

555
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,479
Speaker 6: But he's not going to play every snap, you know,

556
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 6: But overall, other than the Herbig situation, I can't be

557
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 6: super critical of their front seven personnel choices, but the

558
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 6: Herbig ones massive.

559
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: Up next Packers, Colts, Chargers right now, injuries notwithstanding, over

560
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: the next three weeks, what's their record in those three games.

561
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 6: I think they're better than Chargers. I think they're better

562
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 6: than what they showed Thursday night, especially on defense. I

563
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 6: think the Colts are a real problem, a real problem.

564
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 6: So I think they split between Colts and Chargers. Give

565
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 6: me a couple of days to really dig into green Bay.

566
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 6: Tuesday's Stat's Day and there's so much emotion and all

567
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 6: the things I said about Thursday night. I'm such a

568
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 6: believer in betting and picking teams that have big rest advantages,

569
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 6: and the Steelers have one at home and the Rogers factor,

570
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 6: so that one's probably fifty fifty ishued to me.

571
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: I think they beat Green Bay. I don't think that's

572
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty that way. I think they beat Green Bay.

573
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: I think they lose the Colts, and I'm fifty to

574
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: fifty on the Chargers. I'll wait the two weeks and

575
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: the Chargers before I really formulate an opinion there, But

576
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: I feel pretty good about the other two suggestions.

577
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: And one thing that comes.

578
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: To mind, Matt, I'm wondering how you think they handle

579
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: the Micah Parsons part of this equation, because the easy,

580
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: low hanging fruit is to say, just do what you

581
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: did against Miles Garrett.

582
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 6: That works, Yeah, will it?

583
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: Or am I oversimplifying that? And will they just ignore

584
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: it because they know what we know, and I know

585
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: that they know well they do that game for themselves.

586
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 6: Well, one thing I didn't understand from a Brown's perspective

587
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 6: is they lined up Garrett a very high percentage of

588
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 6: the time in the same spot, you know, against Broderick,

589
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 6: which I'm sure they wanted that matchup, even though it

590
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 6: didn't go their way. Parsons will move around definitely more,

591
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 6: and he'll even come up through the middle. And I

592
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 6: really like that Browns front outside of Garrett. But they

593
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 6: don't have a Rashaun Gary either Russia. Rashaan Gary is

594
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 6: a really really good hit at.

595
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 3: Four.

596
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 6: Parsons got there and now's really feasting. So there's another

597
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 6: threat on the other side that's more of a problem.

598
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 6: He's gonna get his I mean, he had three sacks

599
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 6: in this pass game, and he's healthy and he's heating up.

600
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 6: My hunch is they'll just do a lot like with

601
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 6: the Bengals did against Steelers pass rush and get it

602
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 6: out of Rogers' hands really quickly.

603
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: Before we go, Matt, I want to get your opinion

604
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Speaker 1: on something that Mike Decorsi, my colleague over at the

605
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: Trip Live Friday Football Show, and a guest here on

606
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: The Mark Madden Show when I was hosting last week.

607
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: He said that if you who really make him choose,

608
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: he would eschew the low hanging fruit again. Opinion that

609
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: the Steelers should go after a wide receiver at the

610
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: trade deadline and instead focus their attentions if they're gonna

611
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: make a deal on getting a safety. Would you do

612
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: that or do you think if there's an opinion that

613
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: really needs to be followed, it is get the wide

614
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: receiver before the deadline.

615
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 6: What do you think that's funny? I haven't given a

616
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 6: safety much thought at all because I'm not a truck

617
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 6: cloork guy. I think Thornhill's good enough. I'm still intrigued

618
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 6: with Peppers, but I feel like we would have seen

619
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 6: more from him if we're going to by now and

620
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 6: I guess his logic I'm trying to speak for that

621
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 6: line of thinking is that less Ramsey at safety and

622
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 6: more Ramsey at corner, which means less Leigh at corner,

623
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Speaker 6: which I would be fine with. I might even play

624
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 6: Eccos ahead of Sleigh at this point too, which I'm

625
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 6: not trying to get away from the conversation. But a

626
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 6: rangey safety would certainly be of interest more of a

627
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 6: free than a strong because I think Elliott's great. I

628
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 6: still would pick the receiver over a safety, though well.

629
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Speaker 1: Part of the reason I would lean that way too

630
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: is we still can't get away from the what if

631
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: DK gets hurt?

632
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: Factor?

633
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 6: Right, I mean everyone in the media, myself, you have

634
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 6: said that over a million times. That's not a new insight,

635
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 6: but it's still scary as can be.

636
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: And I'll say this too, Matt.

637
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Speaker 1: I don't want to make this sound like I'm piling

638
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: on the Pickens trade, and a lot of people are

639
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: doing some hindsight is twenty twenty thinking on this, But look,

640
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: I mean like, we don't know that this would ever

641
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: have worked out this well for this long through seven

642
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: games as it has in Dallas with Pickens.

643
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 2: I can't make that presumption.

644
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 6: I just know people in the building of all walks

645
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 6: of life are happy he's gone.

646
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: And leave it at that, but they don't have a

647
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: replacement for him. And I also know this, what we

648
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: saw against the Bank was the first true manifestation of

649
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: what we were told the tight end position would be.

650
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: Big day for Friarmuth. All four score touchdowns. That's what

651
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: it's supposed to look like. If that collective acts is

652
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: quote unquote the second wide receiver, so be it. But

653
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Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen every week. And I feel like

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Speaker 1: they look at Friarmuth now as like a specialist, like

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Speaker 1: a guy you play against zone teams or just whenever

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Speaker 1: you go to Cincinnati, because he riffs the Bengals all

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Speaker 1: the time.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's your Bengal killer, right. I don't know what

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Speaker 6: they think of Friarmuth, but I mean it is odd.

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Speaker 6: The other thing that happened in this game was Wilson

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Speaker 6: Roman was clearly the second used wide receiver with Austin

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Speaker 6: being out. You know that we saw very little Miller

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Speaker 6: or Scornic, and he did some okay things. I mean,

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Speaker 6: I guess that's we're talking about on the draft today.

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Speaker 6: That's either by default. We can't stand Miller or Scornic

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Speaker 6: enough to put him out there, So let's try this Wilson, dude.

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Speaker 6: Or he's starting to get it. Maybe he's better. That

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Speaker 6: being said, I would trade a fifth round pick for.

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Speaker 1: A receiver, Oh for sure I would too. Who's gonna

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Speaker 1: be the better quarterback on Sunday? Lover Rogers?

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Speaker 6: Rogers? Yeah, I'm a love fan, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 6: I think he's got a really bright future, but he

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Speaker 6: does some dumb things here and there and can push

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Speaker 6: the envelope. I just think in a game like that,

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna trust Rogers more ninety it's above the neckloavel Matt.

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