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Speaker 1: talking about treating your pets well and treating pests in

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Speaker 1: the proper way, not going to war with nature, but

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Speaker 1: what you need and what you want. And is that

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Speaker 1: My experience is, and this is why I talk to

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Speaker 1: you about it. I think it can happen. Ninety nine

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Speaker 1: The only thing I like to that I don't hesitate

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Speaker 1: already talked about that. Apart from that, though, there are

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Speaker 1: having that conversation right now with my very special in

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Speaker 1: studio guests, Robin Bertolucci and Bambi Corso Steinmeier, co founders

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Speaker 1: of Poison Free Canejo Valley. Bambi want to just kind

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Dean. I think that you know, obviously we want

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Speaker 2: how to do that in a safe way. But I

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Speaker 2: think it's important to understand that these actions that we

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Speaker 2: I was sharing, Dean, just the National Park Service has

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Speaker 2: put together this entire chart of the tested animals for rodenticides,

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Speaker 2: So that just shows you how high up this goes,

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Speaker 2: reminder is there are no safe poisons. That the poisons

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Speaker 1: That we love. Very very true. And you make that

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Speaker 1: food chain to have proven rodenticides in their blood streams.

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Speaker 1: What that tells us is that everybody below the food

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Speaker 1: that means the entire pyramid is. That's why we've got

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Speaker 1: to get away from it and learn to deal with

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Speaker 1: it differently.

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Speaker 3: Exactly.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly the robin.

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Speaker 3: If you want poison free solutions that work. Www. Poisonfreecanejo

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Speaker 3: Valley dot com has a lot of great resources on

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Speaker 3: how you can have a successful poison free outcome. And

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Speaker 3: the other thing I'll tell you is I'm really gratified

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree one hundred percent. I talk about displacement

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Speaker 3: Mister Whisper, thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for much. Robin, by the way, is completely

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Speaker 1: So I again, you just direct all of your angry

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Speaker 3: I'm very, very proud of you and you're doing a

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Speaker 3: great job and grateful for this opportunity to talk about

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Speaker 4: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from

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Speaker 4: KFI AM six forty.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you have joined us on the program today.

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Speaker 1: It is always a pleasure and a privilege to speak

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Speaker 1: There is a path. There is a path, my friend,

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Speaker 1: can't chew through, that they can't bite through, and they

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Speaker 1: fifty or one hundred times, they'd keep coming up against

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Speaker 1: your alternatives? You're going to spend way more than this

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Speaker 1: over an extended war, over a number of years that

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Speaker 1: Are there gophers in this neighborhood? If the whole neighborhood

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Speaker 1: we don't worry about it all right, but if they're like,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, oh yeah, they're a major thing, then before

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Speaker 1: I do the landscaping in the front and back of

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Speaker 1: goes down after we've graded and got our level set

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Speaker 1: is gopher cloth. You can do it retroactively to your yard.

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Speaker 1: All I'm saying, it's doable, it's permanent, and it works

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Speaker 1: they'll choose your facial board or the siding, the wood

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Speaker 1: those areas yet again where going to war not a

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Speaker 1: good idea. You like woodpeckers around, great, then help them

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Speaker 1: not with your house, but help them feed them and

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Speaker 1: home them if you provide. Now, we have woodpeckers around

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Speaker 1: our house, nobody ever gets to the wood on our house,

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Speaker 1: so I get a lot of wood around my house.

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Speaker 1: They never get to the wood because we have as

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Speaker 1: part part of our bird feeding regimen, we have some

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Speaker 1: so that the woodpeckers don't have to find a place

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Speaker 1: to age and store acorns. Feed the woodpeckers house the woodpeckers,

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Speaker 1: provide them a little bird house or and there are

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Speaker 1: those that are built specifically for woodpeckers away from your house.

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Speaker 1: And guess what, you know, what, nature is not stupid.

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Speaker 1: If they have a better option, they'll take it. And

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Speaker 1: that's the simple solution. You can try and put up

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Speaker 1: all the reflective stuff and the fake owls and all

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Speaker 1: work it's hit and miss. Sometimes it doesn't and they're

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Speaker 1: still damage. But if you give them what they want

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Speaker 1: in a better location. I use my bees as an example,

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Speaker 1: you know, because we keep bees. Bees are not trapped

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Speaker 1: But you know why they're there because those bee high boxes,

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Speaker 1: those are optimal places. They'd rather be there than in

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Speaker 1: There you go. All right, that's all I got time

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Speaker 1: for in terms of pets and pets today. That was

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Speaker 1: a lot. I hope that you've enjoyed that information and

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Speaker 1: take advantage of If you still have questions about rodents

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Speaker 1: and rodenticides, go to Canahoe Free, poison freecanaho dot org,

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Speaker 1: I believe, or dot com. I'm sorry I forgot that too,

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Speaker 1: but you can look it up. Here's a quote that

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Speaker 1: Tina laid on me the other day, Man, did it

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Speaker 1: touch me? It says this, give her a little house

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Speaker 1: and the kind of life she does not need escaping from,

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Speaker 1: and she will call it wealth. Ugh Ah, that's Tina.

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Speaker 1: That's who my best friend happens to be. But in

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Speaker 1: a time when money is tight and layoffs are calm,

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Speaker 1: and then prices are up and the future is uncertain.

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Speaker 1: It's also a reminder that life is full of wealth,

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Speaker 1: and in this life, the vast majority of that wealth

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Speaker 1: bank account. Give her a little house and the kind

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Speaker 1: of life she doesn't need escaping from, and she'll call

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Speaker 1: it wealth. And because I have one of those people

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Speaker 1: in my life, I am wealthy indeed. And you can

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Speaker 1: increase your wealth today. Just get out there and get

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Speaker 1: busy building yourself a beautiful life, and we'll see you

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Speaker 1: right back here next weekend. This has been Home with

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