1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio. 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 2: All Right, welcome back everyone. We are going to talk 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: about a subject this hour that I don't think we've 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: ever approached directly, and that is girls hockey. I think 5 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: that everyone in New England knows, and certainly for that matter, 6 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: now across America, that hockey is the very popular sport. 7 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: It is one of the four major sports. And unfortunately, 8 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: here in Massachusetts it appears that hockey is not tweated 9 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: as seriously for girls as it is for boys. However, 10 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 2: we're gonna speak with Janelle Chuffey, who has taken some 11 00:00:55,440 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: very dramatic steps to make a girls the girls high 12 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: school hockey or the equivalent of girls high school hockey 13 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: available to young girls from seventh to twelfth grade. This, 14 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: to me is a really important subject. I'm someone who 15 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: strongly believes in title nine. I have a son and 16 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: a daughter, both of whom played hockey. My daughter and 17 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: played softball. My son played baseball as well as football 18 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: in high school. But I wanted them both to play 19 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: hockey because I think it's a great sport. There are 20 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: carryover values to hockey and with us. Now is Janelle Chaffey, Janelle, 21 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: Welcome to Nightside. Thank you for doing this program tonight, 22 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: and thank you and your daughter for pushing this solution 23 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: to a problem that I really didn't understand existed as 24 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: broadly as it does. Welcome to Nightside. 25 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me Dan. And I 26 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 3: don't mean to correct you right off about my husband's 27 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 3: involved to Michael. So it's really a family affair, all 28 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 3: three of us, as the. 29 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: Way as the way it should be. So what I 30 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: have learned from you is that Uh I played high 31 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: school hockey. Uh and uh way back in the dark ages. 32 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 2: Uh and uh girls have made tremendous strides in this sport. 33 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: We now have a professional women's hockey team uh here 34 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: in Boston. Uh, it doesn't it's not as big as 35 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: the Bruins, doesn't have the history of the Bruins, but 36 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 2: it's it's now here, the Boston Fleet. Uh and uh 37 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 2: there there are there are the high school boys hockey 38 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 2: is available broadly in Massachusetts. Uh. The the the m 39 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: i A A the ruling body for for athletics in 40 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: high schools broadly available, but not so for girls. Why 41 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 2: don't you break it down for us, Let's create the 42 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: problem that you're a organization is addressing. 43 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 3: This is great and I really am grateful for the platform. 44 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 3: So what we've learned, and I think a lot of 45 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 3: people would be shocked to learn, is that the landscape 46 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 3: of hockey as a whole looks what it looks like 47 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 3: for girls in Massachusetts. In Massachusetts it's the MIAA is 48 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 3: comprised of four hundred and thirty members high schools, and 49 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 3: within those four hundred and thirty members high schools, each 50 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 3: school can decide what sports they have and what sports 51 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 3: they don't have, and MIA serves two hundred and twenty 52 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: thousand students across the state of that of what shocking 53 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 3: with those numbers is girls high school hockey has two divisions, 54 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: boys have four. Girls high school hockey has eighty five 55 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 3: total teams statewide, where boys have one hundred and seventy nine, 56 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 3: and it's not for lack of athletes, it's just for 57 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 3: lack of schools wanting to pick up the sport. Additionally, though, 58 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 3: of those teams, the schools that they represent are which 59 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 3: is even more shocking because girls, because you're allowed to 60 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: have co op in MIA, and what a co op 61 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 3: is is more than one school comes together. If they 62 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 3: don't have enough athletes at one school, they cambine the 63 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 3: schools for co ops. If you look at just the 64 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 3: schools that are served overall, we found that the boys 65 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 3: programs have three hundred and five member schools that participate, 66 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 3: which is pretty decent when you look at four hundred 67 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 3: and thirty member schools, and girls only have two hundred 68 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 3: and nine schools that participate because of the co op teams. 69 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 3: You have to remember the co op teams. So if 70 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 3: we're looking at everything fat for fat, you know, because 71 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 3: the opportunity is available. That being said, if you're a 72 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 3: co op team, you're not allowed to have a JV 73 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 3: program in your school, So that limits the girls for 74 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 3: developing and having a JV program in high school if 75 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 3: their teams are part of a co op and not 76 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 3: in their own school. 77 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 2: The hard part, why why is it? Let me ask 78 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 2: you this question. The numbers are important, but it's but 79 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 2: numbers can overwhelm as well. I think I think you've 80 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 2: you've made the case factually. Why it sounds to me 81 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 2: as if girls in this particular sport are being looked 82 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: at as almost you know, second class citizens. I mean, 83 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: if you have a daughter, and she wants to play hockey. 84 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 2: There there are all sorts of college programs for women 85 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: playing hockey, and a lot of women go to great 86 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 2: prep schools. And your daughter, I believes in a prep school, 87 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: she very well might someday play at a Division I college. 88 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 2: And it's the path for student athletes. And why should 89 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,799 Speaker 2: the path for boys be wider than it is for girls. 90 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 2: That's all you're you're essentially asking for, I think, is 91 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: the same path for girls as well as boys exactly. 92 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 3: And that so the reason why this has become more 93 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 3: prevalent now than it was even a few years ago. 94 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 3: In twenty twenty two, MIA made the rule change where 95 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 3: an unattached athlete, so if an athlete didn't have the 96 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 3: program at the school, they could play at another school. 97 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 3: So if for instance, Lowell didn't have hockey, they could 98 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 3: a girl could play on a Westford team as long 99 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 3: as the Westford team had the had the program within 100 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 3: their school. They did without that in twenty twenty two, 101 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 3: So now girls have no mechanism to play. 102 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: So a program that that basically gave girls widened the 103 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: path for girls gave them, you know, another option was 104 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: taken away in twenty twenty two, so at a. 105 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: Time was exactly but they did it for all the sports. 106 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that should be expanding is contracting, and that is 107 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 2: not a good that's not a good development here in Massachusetts. 108 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: So would you have done? And I want to get 109 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 2: to what you have done? And I also want to 110 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 2: hear from people because a lot of the conversations that 111 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: we've heard about recently are you know, some boys wanting 112 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 2: to play girls sports. That's not what we're talking about. Well, 113 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: we're talking about girls being locked out of playing a 114 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 2: sport they have worked on because when they get to 115 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: their high school, maybe there's no varsity program. Even if 116 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 2: there is a varsity program, there's no junior varsity program. 117 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: So if you're a young girl in the say eighth 118 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 2: or ninth grade, in a junior high school, unless you 119 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 2: make the varsity team, if you're lucky enough to have 120 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: a varsity program, unless you make the varsity program, you're 121 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: locked out because there's no JV team. But there will 122 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 2: be a JV team for boys. So in a number 123 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 2: of ways, the path for girls is much narrower than 124 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: it is for boys. And that seems to me inherently unfair. 125 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 3: I would agree with you, and so my husband and 126 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,239 Speaker 3: I thought that this is an issue, but our daughter 127 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 3: was playing, so it wasn't an issue for us because 128 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 3: she was playing in public school and we had high 129 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 3: school hockey. Her friends did not have high school hockey. 130 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 3: And so when she decided to leave public school to 131 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 3: go to private school, she came to us and she said, 132 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,119 Speaker 3: how can we fix this? What can we do to help? 133 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 3: You know, we had this. She had a friend that 134 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 3: was four foot eleven that was playing on a boys 135 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 3: team but never getting nice time, never playing because they 136 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 3: do allow girls to play on boys teams if they 137 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 3: would like, but it's unsafe. I mean, boys have checking 138 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,479 Speaker 3: girls don't. You can make a bigger. 139 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: Body mask bring at a much faster rate of speed, 140 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 2: and no matter how much protective equipment you have on, 141 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: if you're a four foot eleven girl and you weigh 142 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: one hundred and five or one hundred and ten pounds 143 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 2: and you get it by a six foot one guy 144 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 2: that weighs one hundred and eighty, that's not fair. 145 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 3: It's not fair at all. I mean, it's so she 146 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 3: came to us and she asked, and so initially when 147 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 3: we started the non so initial is a nonprofit, So 148 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 3: anybody that joins, we don't take a salary. Nobody, like 149 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 3: nobody in our house takes a salary. We pay our 150 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 3: coaches and our refs and everything else. But when it 151 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 3: comes right down to it, we're just giving back to 152 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 3: the community and hopefully in time we turn our league 153 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 3: over to a public board, not just us, because at 154 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 3: the end of the day, we shouldn't be controlling an 155 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 3: independent league. It should be a community based effort, right. 156 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 2: Okay, So the league is now in its second year 157 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 2: is brought to my attention totally independent of the MIAA. 158 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 2: It's the new England inter County Scholastic Hockey League. You 159 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: have six teams that are playing and we're going to 160 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: get to all of that. If there are young women 161 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 2: high school students who are looking to play hockey, we 162 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 2: can hopefully guide them. But I also think it's just 163 00:09:53,600 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: inherently unfair and I think the MIAA should should address this. 164 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 2: You have addressed it privately, uh if you'd like to 165 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 2: call and join the conversation and ask questions of my guests. 166 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 2: Jenelle Chaffi, who along with her husband and her daughter, 167 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 2: who is now a graduate of high school and playing 168 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 2: a year of going to a prep school in anticipation 169 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: of going off to college. Feel free to join join 170 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: the conversation. Six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty 171 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 2: six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. I am 172 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 2: a huge proponent of a title nine. For a long time, 173 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 2: women were really shut out of participating in sports, particularly 174 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: at high school and college level. It has certainly the 175 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: door has opened, but we need to open that door 176 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: a little wider so we can get more young women 177 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 2: involved in athletics. I assume that, look, girls are not 178 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 2: going to be playing football, I get bad. I assume 179 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 2: that there might be uh an equivalent in balance if 180 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 2: we looked at, let us say, high school baseball versus 181 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 2: high school softball. And we're not going to focus on 182 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: that tonight. But this is a broader it's a more 183 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: broad conversation than just hockey. But we're going to focus 184 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: on hockey because that's what you do, what you know, 185 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 2: and that's what you are doing something about and basically 186 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 2: enabling dozens of young women to continue playing hockey. Which 187 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 2: if your league, your alternate league didn't exist, they they 188 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 2: would they would not be able to participate, and that's 189 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: a shame. Six one seven two thirty six, one, seven, nine, three, 190 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 2: ten thirty back with my guest Jenelle Choffee. She is 191 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 2: doing something that I think is amazing with her husband 192 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 2: and her family. Uh, and they have formed this league 193 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 2: which now is in its second year and it is growing, 194 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 2: the New England Inter County Scholastic Hockey League for girls seventh, eighth, ninth, tenth, 195 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 2: eleventh and twelfth grade. And believe me, if you've gone 196 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 2: to girls hockey games, high school hockey games as I have, 197 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 2: they know how to play. Back on nightside right after this. 198 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio. 199 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: My guess it's Janelle Chaffee. She and her family have 200 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 2: organized the New England Inter County Scholastic Hockey League for 201 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 2: young women women for girls seventh through twelfth grade who 202 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 2: were in schools that do not offer an ice hockey 203 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 2: program or in schools that do not offer a JV 204 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 2: program in case the young woman hasn't made the young 205 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 2: girl has made a varsity team. So let's talk Janelle, 206 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: how's the league doing? This is your second year, you're 207 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: well underway, and I'd love to know what how you 208 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 2: do it? And has the MIAA in any way either 209 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 2: helped you or tried to hinder you. 210 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 3: So our second year is better than we could ever imagined. 211 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 3: Last year was amazing. We had forty three girls. We're 212 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 3: doubled that already. This year. We've added double the amount 213 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 3: of teams. So last year we only had three, actually 214 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 3: we had like two and three quarters and this year 215 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 3: we'll have six five yees, six definitely maybe seven if 216 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 3: the Cell Shore hopefully they're all listening and the girls 217 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 3: start signing up. Okay, if we had enough girls in 218 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 3: the Cell Shore, that would be great. That's the one 219 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 3: region we're missing. So overall, the girls have been the 220 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 3: girls coming inside and really sharing pieces of themselves with 221 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 3: each other and developing. Some girls last our program and 222 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 3: made their varsity teams this year, which is amazing. That's 223 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 3: what we want. Two schools added a program because of us, 224 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 3: that's what we want. They actually reached out to my 225 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 3: husband to see how many girls we had within the 226 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 3: two schools they were looking to co op enrolled in 227 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 3: our program last year, and based on those numbers, they 228 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 3: now have their own program, which is amazing. I mean 229 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 3: that's also a plus, right, Like we're bringing awareness. So 230 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 3: given all of it, go ahead, and then the p WHL. 231 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 3: The support that we've had from the PWHL when they 232 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 3: saw she saw one of our news articles when we 233 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 3: first launched was amazing. They have given opportunities to our 234 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 3: girls by being just role models for them. In addition 235 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 3: to that, they've they've allowed us to have tables at 236 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 3: their games to give exposure to our league so these 237 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 3: girls can join. They have given them on ice opportunities 238 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 3: and have sponsored games for them, which has allowed them 239 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 3: to go to games. They give them tickets to their games. 240 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 3: The Bruins because my daughter started the Delilah the one 241 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 3: that started the program with us, started skating through the 242 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 3: Little Bruins program. The Bruins Foundation, along with with Sabby Technologies, 243 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 3: under the league with a five thousand dollars gift at 244 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 3: Girls Hockey Day last year to bring more exposure. So, 245 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 3: because of the things that they're hearing and you know 246 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 3: that other people outside are really helping us bring exposure, 247 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 3: the girls in the of themselves walk into the rank happy. 248 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 3: They love their locker room because we have a rule 249 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 3: there's no bullying and it's a team environment, not second chances, 250 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 3: and that has really served us well. When we sent 251 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 3: out our reviews for the season for last year, we 252 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 3: really asked the girls that we wanted them to be 253 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 3: honest with us, because at the end of the day, 254 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 3: this is about them. We're trying to fix the hole 255 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 3: that we wish our daughter had the experience that we 256 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 3: wish all athletes would have a positive environment. Right, you 257 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: don't need to have negative coaching to have a good team. 258 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 3: So these girls, they actually said they felt safe for 259 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 3: the first time ever in the locker room. That's a 260 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 3: big deal. 261 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 2: Well, I remember when I was a dad, when Little 262 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 2: League time came around the town in which I was in, 263 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 2: they had like a summer team, a travel team, and 264 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 2: like any of the sort of those teams, there's a 265 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 2: little bit of politics involved. So there were some kids 266 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 2: that made the travel team and some kids that didn't 267 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: make the travel team. So what I decided to do 268 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 2: was kind of do what you did, and I ran 269 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: a program in the summer, separate and apart from the 270 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 2: little he called Summer Sandlot and practice with kids, and 271 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 2: then I found a league where they could play some 272 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: games in the summer. They played through the summer July 273 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: and then into it was fallball in September and October, 274 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: playing baseball and the next year a lot of the 275 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: kids that I worked with made that travel team. 276 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 3: It's great. 277 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: And what happens is that they make decisions as to 278 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: whether or not kids are able to play or not, 279 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: and they don't don't even give they don't have a chance. 280 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: And the idea is that kids should be kids should 281 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 2: be playing sports all through high school, no matter how 282 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: good or how poor they are. And I know that 283 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 2: you can't have unlimited teams, but you have opened up 284 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 2: an avenue the New England inter County Scholastic Hockey League. 285 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: First of all, we're going to take phone calls. We 286 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 2: get back right after the news and I the only 287 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 2: line that we have opened right now is one at 288 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: six one, seven, nine, three, one ten thirty. But what 289 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 2: is your website? In case there are young girls or 290 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 2: parents and other communities who are listening and want to 291 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 2: get in touch with you, you know, over the weekend, 292 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 2: what's your what's the website? 293 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 3: The website is initial dot org. That's NISHL dot org 294 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 3: and or they can email. They can email me, And 295 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 3: I really find I'd really rather have a conversation with 296 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 3: anybody that would like to join, because I think that's 297 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 3: a personal touch is very important, especially you know, a 298 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 3: lot of these girls are in very vulnerable situations, especially 299 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 3: the girls calling us now they didn't make their high 300 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 3: school team and they're devastated. No girls should be devastated. 301 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 3: So my emails J Chaffee, J C I, O F 302 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 3: F I at initial. 303 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: Dot org and again, so again I want to give 304 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 2: that website as well. It's it's it's basically the initials 305 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 2: for New England inter County Scholastic Hockey League. So it's 306 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 2: N E I s h L. 307 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 3: Right, no, no n I, no E. There's no E 308 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 3: N we just I'm sorry. 309 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 2: Fair enough, that's okay, we're gonna get it right. N 310 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 2: I s h L which stands for Scholastic Hockey League 311 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 2: for into content into County Scholastic Hockey League, and N 312 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 2: stands for for an effect New England. But it's just 313 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 2: N I s h L s h L and your 314 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 2: J C I, O F F I at n U 315 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 2: I s h L. I think for a lot of 316 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 2: people slower, sometimes it's better. I know when I can 317 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 2: listen and I can write, but I want to hear 318 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 2: as well. We'll take a break. We've got the news 319 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,239 Speaker 2: coming up. We get back, we'll continue our conversation with 320 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 2: Janelle Choffe. She is one of the founders, along with 321 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 2: her husband, of the New England inter County Scholastic Hockey League. 322 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 2: This is just for girls, So this is not an 323 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 2: opportunity for boys. They have enough opportunities through them i AA. 324 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 2: This is for underserved girls at this point who may 325 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 2: go on to play hockey. Who knows, maybe some of 326 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 2: your graduates someday will be playing for the Boston Fleet. 327 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 2: You just never know. We'll take a very quick break. 328 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 2: But coming right back on night Side. 329 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's 330 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: news radio. 331 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 2: We're talking with Janelle Chaffey. She along with her husband 332 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 2: and a daughter, have basically seen a problem and done 333 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: something about it. They have formed the New England inter 334 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 2: County Scholastic Hockey League n i SHL dot com. Correct. 335 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 2: Just want to make sure we get that correct, Janelle 336 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 2: dot org dot org. Well, thank you very much. To 337 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 2: make sure a kid said, okay, that's very important n 338 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 2: i SHL dot org to basically provide another avenue for 339 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 2: girls in high schools here in Massachusetts who want to 340 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 2: play hockey, maybe have played hockey for years and years 341 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 2: and years, but happen to be going to high school 342 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 2: there's no girls hockey program. There should be a girls 343 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 2: hockey program at every high school whre there's a boys 344 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: hockey program, in my mind, and there also should be. 345 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 2: Sometimes a girl can be going to a high school 346 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 2: where there is a girls hockey program, but they don't 347 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 2: make the varsity team, or they're in the eighth grade 348 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 2: of the ninth grade and they have nowhere else to play. Well, 349 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 2: this is another option for them, little less convenient. I 350 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 2: would think, maybe a little bit more card time, but 351 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 2: parents are well used to that. So let's go and 352 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 2: talk to some folks who have called in, Janelle. Let's 353 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,479 Speaker 2: let's see what folks have to say. Let me go 354 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 2: first to Skyler, who's calling in from Lowell. Skyler, welcome 355 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: to Night's side. 356 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,719 Speaker 4: How are you this evening, Higan? 357 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 5: Good in you. 358 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 2: We're doing great. We're doing great. I think I can 359 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 2: tell by your voice that you might be a female 360 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 2: hockey player. Tell me about yourself. 361 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 5: Yes, I am a female hockey player. I've been playing 362 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 5: hockey since iand around nine or not nine to five. Yeah, 363 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 5: and there are times where I haven't necessarily felt part 364 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 5: of a family on my team or in my organization, 365 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 5: and then me and my mom found out about an 366 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 5: I show and fell in love with it. 367 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: So did you play? Did you play last year and 368 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 2: playing again this year? 369 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 5: Yes, that's correct. 370 00:21:54,840 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 2: Okay, Now at school? Do you have a girls hockey 371 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 2: program at school? 372 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 5: Am I school? We actually don't have a hockey program 373 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 5: at all? 374 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: Oh oh, boys or girls? So that's that's even worse. 375 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 2: And so what team you're You're in Lowell? Everybody knows 376 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 2: real Lowell is up in the northeast corner of the state. 377 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 2: Where is your team based? 378 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 5: So for an HL, I play out of the Groton team, 379 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,959 Speaker 5: which is also the Northeast Revolution. I had a lot 380 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 5: of fun on it last year and I'm excited to 381 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 5: play on it again this year. 382 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 2: Great. Uh, and do you do you play at the 383 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 2: Is your home rink the Groton rink? That's the that's 384 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 2: a that's a private school in Groton, Massachusetts. 385 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: I assume you're referring to yes it is. 386 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 2: Well, that's great. And what sort of a difference does 387 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 2: it make in your life? If this league, the New 388 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 2: England inter County Scholastic Hockey League, didn't exist, what would 389 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 2: you doing with your time. I mean you, obviously you 390 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 2: spend a lot of time playing playing ice hockey. There's 391 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 2: a lot of time to get to the rink, get 392 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: the equipment on, get out, play the game or do 393 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 2: the practice, and then get the equipment off and get 394 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 2: back home. How much of wild would that leave in 395 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 2: your life. 396 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 5: I would actually have a lot of time to kind 397 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 5: just do nothing. Yeah, I would most likely be training 398 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 5: for the next season coming out, even though I wouldn't 399 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 5: be on a team. 400 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's awfully tough to train and improve your hockey 401 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 2: skills unless you're on a team. If you were a 402 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 2: member of a if you were a track if you 403 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 2: were a runner or a high jumper, or for that matter, 404 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 2: a swimmer, and you didn't have a team, you could 405 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 2: train individually. But it's tough when you want to play 406 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 2: a team sport not to have a team to play with. 407 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 2: Say hi to to Janelle. I assume you probably have 408 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 2: met Jee. Well, if you'd like to say anything to 409 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: the to the woman that put this program together, feel free. 410 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 411 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 5: Actually, jan I'm very thankful that you guys had put 412 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 5: this together. I'm thankful that you guys made the league 413 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 5: feel like a family. The first day. From the very beginning, 414 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 5: it was a family, which I know. 415 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 3: It really was a lot of other girls. 416 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 5: Who are now part of the league didn't have that 417 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 5: feeling of a family in hockey, and now we do. 418 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 2: That is a recommendation go ahead. 419 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 3: You know all summer I kept getting text from these girls, 420 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 3: can you out of practice? Can we play in a tournament? 421 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 3: We miss you guys. I want to see my friends 422 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 3: that I played hockey with. So it and these girls 423 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 3: have formed one group chat within the league. They include everybody, 424 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 3: no matter what team you're on, so each girl, so 425 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 3: there aren't cliques, and that was amazing. That's something these 426 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 3: girls to go over on their own. They really made 427 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 3: this league for themselves. They fit it into their lives 428 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 3: and we've responded in a way to make it so 429 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 3: we can help them as much as possible, but really 430 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 3: they're doing it for themselves, which is amazing. I mean 431 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 3: Skyler's then, she went from this quiet person to a 432 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 3: leader in our group, and that's been awesome to see 433 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 3: her grow in the last year. 434 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 2: Well that's what sports were all about, Skyler. I hope 435 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 2: you have a great season. Uh. And when you end 436 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 2: up playing for the Boston fleet. You've got to make 437 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 2: sure I get free tickets. Okay, thank you, I will, Thanks, 438 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 2: thanks very much. We're going to talk to two young 439 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 2: ladies who are sharing a phone in Bill Ricker. We 440 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 2: don't do this often, but we're going to make an 441 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 2: exception for Erin and Elise. Erin and Elise, welcome, Hi girls. 442 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 2: Oh guess what, I forgot to click the right button. 443 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 2: That's my fault. Erin and Aali welcome. How are you tonight? 444 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 3: Oh we're good? How are you? 445 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 2: We're going great? I was so intent on making sure 446 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: I gave you the proper introduction. I forgot to click 447 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 2: the right button and Rob didn't back me up. So 448 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 2: that's okay. That's that's our fault. It's kind of like 449 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 2: a turnover in the neutral zone, if you know what 450 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 2: I'm saying. How important is this experience? Is this program 451 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 2: to you? Ladies? 452 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 6: This program is like really important to us. It's like 453 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 6: been awesome this past year. This is our first year 454 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 6: playing for this team, and we just started playing hockey 455 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 6: last year. 456 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 2: Now are you both from bill Ricca? 457 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 5: Yes, we are, okay. 458 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 2: Now, with a name like Aaron and Eli's, oftentimes parents 459 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 2: name their their siblings with they will start with the 460 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 2: same letter. Are you siblings or are you just friends? 461 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 7: We are sisters? 462 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 2: You are sisters. Okay, how about that? I figured that 463 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 2: out and I didn't even have a propt on that. 464 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 2: So what school do you go to? And I assume 465 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 2: there's no hockey program, no girls hockey program at your school. 466 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 7: Oh, we go to Baraka Memorial High School. We play 467 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 7: on the BC hockey team, so it's comes joined with 468 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 7: another town. 469 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 3: So yeah, okay, but. 470 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 2: Then you play additionally, you play on this team as 471 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 2: well the New England into into County Scholastic Hockey League, 472 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 2: so you're playing on two teams. 473 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,719 Speaker 3: Yes, so girls, let me introject for one second. So 474 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 3: they're a perfect example about why they schools with co 475 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 3: ops should have JV hockey because they just want to 476 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 3: play hockey. And so they're staying on their high school 477 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 3: team with the hopes that will develop them. This year. 478 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 3: They can still have the community with their local high school, 479 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 3: but also with us, and then next year they'll both 480 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 3: they'll both make Our goal is for them most to 481 00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 3: make arsity next year. But so they're supplementing our high 482 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 3: school program with US. 483 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 2: Oh that's great. So what what year I'm going to 484 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 2: risk another question. Do you happen to be twins or 485 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 2: what are you both in the same same year in school? 486 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 2: Or what year are you in? What years are you in? 487 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 7: So I am actually a junior in high school. 488 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 6: I'm a freshman. 489 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 7: We are two grades apart. But joining the high school 490 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 7: team has been difficult because with a co ed team, 491 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 7: we've had so like a two talents, there are so 492 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 7: many girls that it's hard to get playing time. 493 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 2: Right, Well, that's okay, So you get some extra playing 494 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 2: time here, there's nothing wrong with that. There's a lot 495 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 2: of the Bruins who where they come up with the 496 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 2: Bruins that they're not getting as much playing time and 497 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 2: they go back down to Providence and they have a 498 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 2: good season in Providence and the next year they're playing 499 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 2: for the Bruins. Well, thank both of you for having 500 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 2: the coverage to do this and to call in, and 501 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 2: best of luck with your careers and as well, if 502 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 2: you end up playing for the Boston Fleet, you got 503 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 2: to get this poor old talk show hosts some tickets. 504 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 3: Okay, sound good? 505 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 2: All right, Thanks Aaron, Thanks, thank you very much, Bye bye. 506 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 2: All right, You're very welcome. I'm sorry I cut you 507 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 2: off there just a little bit quickly. We have other calls. 508 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I want to get to everyone, So we're 509 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 2: gonna we're gonna take a very quick break and I'll 510 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 2: be back with Janelle Chaffey. She is the along with 511 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 2: her family members, her husband and her daughter, the founders 512 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 2: of the New England inter County Scholastic Hockey League, which 513 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 2: provides more ice time, more opportunity for young girls to 514 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 2: play hockey, which is a tremendous sport. Uh. There's carryover 515 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 2: value to hockey. You you learn to skate. Uh, that's 516 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 2: obviously a complete necessity to play ice hockey. There's no 517 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 2: doubt about that. And you get stronger every year, every 518 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 2: every practice. And there are some schools that don't offer this. 519 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 2: This fills that void the New England inter County Scholastic 520 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 2: Hockey League. I'm thrilled to talking with Janelle Chaffey, and 521 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 2: I'm thrilled to be talking with some of these young women. 522 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 2: Back on Night Side, we'll get everybody in right after this. 523 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. 524 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 2: We're talking about hockey, and we're talking about girls' hockey specifically. 525 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 2: Let me go to Phoebe and Grafton. Phoebe, welcome. You're 526 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 2: next on Night Side with Jenelle Chaffey. Go ahead, Phoebe. 527 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 8: I am a seventh grader and I've been playing hockey 528 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 8: for four years now, and it's been really hard finding 529 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 8: a team that I like, really get along with the players. 530 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 8: All the teams I've been on so far, the girls 531 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 8: haven't been the best, they haven't been the nicest, and 532 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 8: it's just really hard to find a team where I 533 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 8: can get good coaching and where I can be treated 534 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 8: in the right way. And when I found Initchell, I 535 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 8: felt like I really could, like I really belonged there. 536 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 2: So played all last year. You're currently in the seventh grade. Yeah, 537 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 2: you're very well spoken for seventh grader, and you have 538 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 2: not had a lot of luck. Now does your You've 539 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 2: got to be in middle school. I assume your middle 540 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 2: school doesn't have a hockey team. 541 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 8: No, it doesn't. 542 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 2: Does your high school? 543 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: Uh? 544 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 8: Yes? 545 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 2: Okay, so you'll have to make a decision. Uh, you know, 546 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 2: when you get to high school whether or not you 547 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 2: play for your high school team or play for the 548 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: continue to play for this uh Inter County Scholastic Hockey League. 549 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: At this point, sounds to me like you like this 550 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 2: this program a lot better. 551 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 3: Except grat by then she's gonna want to play varsity. 552 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 2: Okay, right, well, Phoebe, thank you very much for calling 553 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 2: and uh and representing graft And what is your team? What? 554 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 3: What? 555 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 2: Which? Which team are you playing for this year? 556 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 8: I had played for the Duke Sitters, which. 557 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 2: Okay, we talked over each other. 558 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 3: Spirit sorry yet because we haven't sent out her. 559 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 5: Team announcement yet. 560 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 3: We're waiting for all the registrations. 561 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 5: Okay, so you. 562 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 3: Know, because as girls are finding out, they're not making teams, 563 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 3: which is just this week, so it's really hard to 564 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 3: send out team like association you know what teams are 565 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 3: going to be on and then remove them from NAT. 566 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 2: Sounds great, sounds great, all right, Phoebe, congratulations, have a 567 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 2: great season okay, and always remember keep your heads up, 568 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 2: keep your head up when you when you you know, 569 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:45,479 Speaker 2: stick handling. Thanks very much, Yeah, thanks much later. Let 570 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 2: me go next to John Johnny Is in Wyndham. John Is, 571 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 2: I understand you're a parent. How are you tonight? 572 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 9: Thanks? 573 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 2: On how we're doing? Just great? You are with Janelle Chophis. 574 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 2: What's your comment or question? 575 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 9: So my daughter Cassie grew up playing hockey all the 576 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 9: way up until the year they started checking and then 577 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 9: decided to walk away, which rightfully, so she's a tiny 578 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 9: little thing. And then some of the boys, like you 579 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 9: mentioned earlier, six feet tall or one hundred and eighty pounds, 580 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 9: So for years she couldn't find a team to play 581 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 9: on until we came across Janelle's league and Cassie joined 582 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 9: last season, so this is our second season and has 583 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 9: had a wonderful experience. The camaraderie, the friendships, the positive environment, 584 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 9: and just the connection that the girls have is better 585 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 9: than I've ever seen in any of the sports She's played. 586 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 9: And she loves coming every week. She loves talking to 587 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 9: the girls and hanging out with her friends, and she 588 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 9: just I can't say enough about this league, and I 589 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 9: thank you Janelle for and Mike for setting it up 590 00:33:58,720 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 9: for us. 591 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 3: Oh thank you, Johnny. Can you tell them what your 592 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 3: connection to his hockey because that would matter in this 593 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 3: context with the pph O. 594 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,919 Speaker 9: Sure sure, so I own uh yeah, I own two 595 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 9: things in Adult Hockey League Power Play Hockey League here 596 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 9: in New England, and we have women's divisions, so as 597 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 9: we know, all roads lead to adult hockey. No matter 598 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 9: how good you are, you end up playing hockey when 599 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 9: you childer in the adult world. So so we provide 600 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 9: that here and we've had great luck with the women's divisions, 601 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 9: with our men's divisions. And I also run a charity, 602 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 9: Fallen Heroes Hockey Team that raises money for Fallen Heroes 603 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 9: families as well. So I'm definitely well versed in the 604 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,399 Speaker 9: hockey community and I can appreciate what Janelle and Mike 605 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 9: are doing to the end degree with this program. 606 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 2: Well, it's great that your daughter is playing. That's what 607 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,720 Speaker 2: That's what it comes down to. How how far away 608 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 2: did your daughter play last year? 609 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 9: She did, So we're up in Wyndham, New Hampshire, so 610 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 9: we go up to Manchester to the New Hampshire Freedom 611 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 9: team to practice. 612 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 2: That's not bad. Yeah, that's that's what thirty miles maybe, 613 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's that's not bad. A lot of 614 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 2: hockey parents end up drive a lot more than that, 615 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 2: that's for sure. Well, congratulations to your daughter, John, and 616 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 2: congratulations for what you do, and thank you for calling 617 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 2: and tonight. I appreciate it very much. 618 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 9: Thank you appreciate it. 619 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 2: You're welcome. Okay, we got one more caller here. Grace 620 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 2: is in New Hampshire. Grace, you were next on night Side. 621 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 2: Are you a hockey player? 622 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 4: Yes, i am. I actually played with Mitchell last season 623 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 4: and was the captain of the Revolution team out of 624 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 4: Grotten Mass. 625 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 2: Uh huh okay, So so your situation. Are you in 626 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 2: high school at this point? 627 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 4: Yes, I'm currently a sophomore high school. 628 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 2: Sophomore in high school. Is there a hockey program at 629 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 2: your school or no? For girls? 630 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 4: Not at my school, but we co up with another 631 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 4: school for all the playing for a Keen High this 632 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 4: year as well as Mitchell. 633 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 2: Oh okay, So do you think this playing last year 634 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 2: for the New England Inter County Scholastic Hockey League help 635 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 2: you continue to your development so much? 636 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 4: Last year I was at the point where I was 637 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 4: considering not playing hockey anymore because I didn't have a 638 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 4: team to play for due to districting and where I 639 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 4: went to school at the time. And when I found Michel, 640 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 4: I was able to not only play with the girls 641 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 4: at so many different skill levels, but meet so many 642 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 4: new people and opened so many different opportunities. It was amazing. 643 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 4: I definitely improved as a player. 644 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 2: Well, that's great. Again, I hope you sound very mature. 645 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 2: What what year are you in it? Did you say 646 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 2: you were sophomore? Yes, yeah, well you sound very well 647 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 2: spoken and very mature. And h hockey is a great 648 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 2: is a great sport for young men and young women, 649 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:54,919 Speaker 2: boys and girls. 650 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 5: Uh. 651 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 2: And I just hats off to all of you who 652 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 2: are making this program work, and I wish you the 653 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 2: best of lie. I have a great have a great year, 654 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 2: and keep us in contact. Okay, thanks Grace, Thank you. 655 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 3: Grace for calling in. And I'm so proud so Grace 656 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,399 Speaker 3: on her team this year made first line varsity, which 657 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 3: is amazing. So congratulations to you, Grace. 658 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 2: Now we're talking. Thanks Grace. Enjoy the season. Keep your 659 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 2: heads up when you keep the heads up when we bucket. Okay, thanks, 660 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 2: all right, thank you. That's that's I know. That's what 661 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 2: the coaches always used to yell at the forwards when 662 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 2: I was true, I was a goaltender. I was supposed 663 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 2: to just stop the puck. That's a simple thing to do. Uh, Chanel, 664 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 2: let's one more time. Slowly give the website and we'll 665 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,879 Speaker 2: also give your email the website. Please, Janell, go right ahead, slowly. 666 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 3: N I s h l dot org. 667 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 2: Real, that's great, n I s h l dot org. 668 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,959 Speaker 2: And if folks want to contact you directly, your last 669 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 2: name is not easy to spell, but you can spell 670 00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 2: it for us. 671 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 3: Go right ahead, Okay, the letter J and then Chaffey. 672 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 3: Do you like Charlie, I like ice cream, like oscar F, 673 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 3: like Frank F like Frank I at initial dot org. 674 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 3: That's n I s h l dot org. 675 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 2: Perfect, perfect, Thanks so much, Janelle. I hope this results 676 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 2: in a lot of parents and young girl hockey players, 677 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 2: female hockey players contacting you and keep in touch. I 678 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,919 Speaker 2: wish you all the best of success. You were doing 679 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 2: this out of you and your husband Mike, and your 680 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 2: daughter Delilah are doing this out of the generosity of 681 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 2: spirit and generosity of your heart, and you're making a 682 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 2: difference in the lives of a lot of young women. 683 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 2: And congratulations and on behalf of everyone. 684 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Absolutely, 685 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 3: have a great. 686 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,320 Speaker 2: Night you too. When we get back, we're going to 687 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 2: switch back to a topic that most of you are 688 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 2: more familiar with. It's going to talk about President Trump's 689 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 2: tariffs in the economy. Bad day on Wall Street today, 690 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 2: can't read too much into it, but you certainly have 691 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 2: to take note. And we'll talk about the tariffs, who 692 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 2: put the tariffs in I think a context that all 693 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 2: of you will really understand. And we will talk with 694 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 2: Professor Greg Staller of the Questron School of Business at 695 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 2: Boston University. He's been a great guest before, he'll be 696 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 2: a great guest tonight. Coming back after this