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Speaker 2: All Right, good afternoon, Welcome in the Tuesday edition of

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Speaker 2: Cincy three sixty on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: an awesome, awesome afternoon and joining the final days of

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. Thanks for joining us. We got a

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Speaker 2: lot to get to in the next three hours. Joe

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Speaker 2: Daniman from Fox nineteen will join us at one o'clock.

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Speaker 2: We have a lot of Bengals to sift through the

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Speaker 2: decision to play Joe Burrow, MO and I yesterday and

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Speaker 2: Liutoni Moo Football Show talked a lot about the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three draft class and some upcoming decisions that this

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Speaker 2: team will be faced with. I want to dive more

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Speaker 2: into that today. The Bearcats last night Austin. I think

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Speaker 2: it's a game when the sea and ends that people

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Speaker 2: will say, you remember when the season turned around against Lipscomb?

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Speaker 2: Do you remember the turnaround for Bearcats basketball against Lipscomb.

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Speaker 2: We'll see the Bearcats have the Houston Cougars on Saturday,

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Speaker 2: but you'll hear what Wes Miller had to say after

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Speaker 2: a win last night and a new starting lineup for

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Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bearcats. We'll also talk a little bit at

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Speaker 2: Zavier Musketeers as they welcome in the Yukon Huskies tomorrow

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Speaker 2: to the Cintas Center. At five o'clock, we'll dive into

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Speaker 2: the week eighteen NFL schedule along with playoff scenarios. We'll

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Speaker 2: look a little bit more into that Pittsburgh Baltimore matchup,

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Speaker 2: not just for the AFC North title this year, but

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Speaker 2: implications that could have on the off season, potential coaching vacancies,

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Speaker 2: and more on the AFC North as a whole. Before

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Speaker 2: we get into that, we'll look into the top sports

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Speaker 2: stories around the world, and we'll take your phone calls

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Speaker 2: all throughout the afternoon five to one to three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty before we.

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Speaker 3: Go any further. Okay, happy fiftieth birthday to Tiger Woods

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Speaker 3: Wow l T. Gray Eldrick turns fitty today, which means

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Speaker 3: tone he's now eligible for the Champions Tour if he

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Speaker 3: chooses to do so. Did you ever back in the

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Speaker 3: day follow the Tiger Tracker? Oh yeah, I used to

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Speaker 3: have every tweet and I still have the notifications on

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Speaker 3: for the Tiger Tracker. And you can imagine how much

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Speaker 3: I freaked out this morning when I woke up and

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Speaker 3: looked at my phone with a tweet from the Tiger

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Speaker 3: Tracker saying, which hasn't tweeted in five years. By the way, Oh,

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Speaker 3: happy birthday to the big fella.

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Speaker 2: Well, how about as well, Happy forty first to Lebron James.

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Speaker 2: No way, Lebron's forty one today?

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Speaker 3: You're kidding? Is he actually?

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Speaker 2: Him and Tiger Woods share the same birthday? My god,

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Speaker 2: Four time NBA Champ, four time Finals MVP, four time

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Speaker 2: MVP All Star for twenty years, somehow I didn't know

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Speaker 2: the Lebron was forty one forty one. I still I

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Speaker 2: just always think he's like thirty eight. Lebron James thirty

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Speaker 2: eight for the last three years one speaking of just

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Speaker 2: a kid from a speaking of age, the time has

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Speaker 2: settled in the NFL career of won Philip Rivers, it's over.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: They have announced today that they will let Riley Leonard

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Speaker 2: make their final start of the season in Indianapolis. Wow,

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Speaker 2: So Philip rivers three game magical run has come to

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Speaker 2: an end. He has already said he will not be

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Speaker 2: making another return to the National Football League.

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Speaker 3: Philip Rivers and Joe Flacco combined to go like one

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Speaker 3: in six.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and their fun runs. But they were all fun games.

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Speaker 2: What a fun run? You want to talk about some fun?

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Speaker 2: How about this? Earlier today, the finalist for the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six Pro Football Hall of Fame have been named, right,

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Speaker 2: big Willie Style. Yes, Willie Anderson a finalist. Listen to

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Speaker 2: this class, Willie Anderson, Drew Brees.

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Speaker 3: These are the finalist. Yes, class?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Jerry Evans?

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Speaker 2: Jarry Jarry Evans, Larry Fitzgerald, Frank Gore, Tory Holt, part

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Speaker 2: of the greatest show on turf.

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Speaker 2: Luke Keickley, Cincinnati's own.

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Speaker 3: Luke Keigley was fantastic again last night.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say today. Playbook, the Monday Night Playbook

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Speaker 2: Em and Dan Orlofsky.

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Speaker 3: I think talks just a little too much, but it's

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Speaker 2: I think they're still trying to work through some things.

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Speaker 2: is awesome. Luke Keigley is a finalist, Eli Manning, Terrell Suggs,

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Speaker 3: I think Breeze obviously is a shoe in. Okay, Fitzgerald

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Speaker 3: I don't I think Eli is I don't think anybody

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Speaker 3: Adam Viniti. I know that this is a hot talk,

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Speaker 3: hot hot take, but I adamantly deny any notion that

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Speaker 3: Jason Witten is a Hall of Famer. He's just not.

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Speaker 3: He is the most overrated player in the history of

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Speaker 3: probably get in this class.

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Speaker 2: Do you think he'll get in this class?

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Speaker 6: I do.

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Speaker 3: I do, just because he was a cowboy, because people

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Speaker 3: liked him. But make no mistake, there is no more

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Speaker 3: overrated player in the history of this league than Jason

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Speaker 3: Wittler exactly if if he didn't play for the Cowboys,

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Speaker 3: in the Senior Committee, Anders Anderson is also a finalist,

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Speaker 3: so there's a chance the Bengals could get two in.

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Speaker 2: Okay, some other happenings. How about this The Joker Nikola Jokic, Yes,

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Speaker 2: suffered a leftne hyper extension on Monday. He's going to

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Speaker 2: be reevaluated in four weeks, so four week absence coming

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Speaker 2: up for the Joker. What's going on with Stefan dis.

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Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs is facing charges in Boston from a December

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Speaker 3: Apparently he is offered this person, the alleged victim, a

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Speaker 3: levied against Stefan Digs. The Patriots have made a statement

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Speaker 3: that the Patriots support support Stephan Diggs. So they will

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Speaker 3: continue to gather information cooperate fully with the appropriate authorities

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Speaker 2: Okay, So how about this, Chip Kelly has found a

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Speaker 2: new home, chip Northwestern's OC.

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Speaker 4: Good for him.

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Speaker 2: Chip Kelly, Northwestern, good for him? What else do we have?

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Speaker 2: How about this? I follow along with the college football

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Speaker 2: Transfer portal? Why well listen to this. There are already

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Speaker 2: The D one portal doesn't open until January. Tewod there

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Speaker 2: have that plan. Also, Monday Night football last night? Yes,

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Speaker 2: is Matthew Stafford still the MVP? I think in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: I think so because the votes were put in early December.

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Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken. Okay, should he be the MVP?

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Speaker 3: Of the National Football lead. Yeah, I still think so.

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Speaker 2: Okay, last night what a fun one if you're an

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Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons fan or just a fan of football in general.

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Speaker 2: The Falcons nearly blew a twenty one point lead that

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Speaker 2: but they beat the Rams last night. They jumped up

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Speaker 3: And who else had one?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 2: Xavier Watshead too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, uh, the guy that everybody wanted the Bengals to

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Speaker 2: Would you take me right now? Xavier wats or Barrett

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Speaker 2: Carter Xavier watts Okay, they jump out to a twenty

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Speaker 3: Jon has that easy gas unbelievable. Next thing, you know,

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Speaker 2: K watching that last time, I'm like, man, how are

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Speaker 3: It looks like he's not even drynk. I know. That's

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Speaker 3: the thing.

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Speaker 2: Got talent for the last ten years, I've got talent.

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Speaker 2: You want to talk about that division and turmoil. Man

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Speaker 2: Falcons and the Saints are playing the best football the

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Speaker 2: teams that are actually playing for something. The Panthers and

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Speaker 2: the Bucks are both struggling. And now, because of Atlanta's

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Speaker 3: That's correct.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So the Saints beat the Falcons and the Bucks

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Speaker 3: That's right. Tampa has to win and Atlanta has to

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Speaker 3: lose or tie. Meanwhile, Carolina wins or ties, or Atlanta

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Speaker 2: It felt last night like the Rams were gonna complete

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Speaker 2: the comeback. It was twenty four to ten and the

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Speaker 2: Falcons were lining up for a very makeable field goal

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Speaker 2: and Jared Verse blocks the kick and then returns its

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Speaker 2: all right, I've seen how this goes before. But shout

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Speaker 2: out to Kirk Cousins and Bijon Robinson. They get him

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Speaker 2: back into field goal range, and with twenty one seconds left,

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Speaker 2: Zane Gonzalez hits a fifty one yarder and the Falcons

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Speaker 2: beat the Rams twenty seven to twenty four.

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Speaker 3: I think with what we've seen in the NFL with

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Speaker 3: a guy like Philip Rivers coming back, with what Joe

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Speaker 3: Flacco has done, with the discourse around younger quarterbacks maybe

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Speaker 3: future of one Kirk Cousins and what that would mean

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Speaker 3: for him, because clearly there is still a market for

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Speaker 3: a guy like him. I think he'd be really good

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Speaker 3: with Shanahan's offense in San Francisco, But hell, they've got

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Speaker 3: mac Jones to back up brock Purty. Sure, Where could

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Speaker 3: kirk Cousins end up next year? I think is a

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Speaker 3: fun storyline in then it's a good.

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Speaker 2: Question outside of the Bearcats win last night, other teams

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Speaker 2: locally in action College Basketball Slate, what do you make

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Speaker 2: of the bounce back for the Norse Austin going to

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Speaker 3: Expected out a surprise? Whatsoever? Took care of business over

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Speaker 2: Yep. Other teams in action last night? Can I tell

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Speaker 2: you who's really good? Michigan basketball not interested. They were

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Speaker 1: ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back since he three to sixty. ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 3: At the time of Jason Witten's retirement in twenty thirteen,

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go, Week eighteen. Here are your

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Speaker 2: going to do at quarterback. And it just feels it's

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Speaker 2: called what it is. It's an aging roster. It's a

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Speaker 2: roster that's getting older, not as dominant on defense. This year.

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Speaker 2: At some point you mentioned aging Derek, He's got to

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Speaker 2: slow down. At some point, Lamar's body, at least for

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Speaker 2: this year, is started to give out a little bit,

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Speaker 2: and you wondered, all of the hits and the running

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Speaker 2: that he did early in his career, would that ever

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Speaker 2: be the case? But I know we're talking about Week eighteen, Austin,

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Speaker 2: but I can't help but think when you look at

446
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Speaker 2: the Ravens and you look at the Pittsburgh Steelers and

447
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Speaker 2: you start to think of twenty twenty six, are the

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Speaker 2: Bengals in the most enviable spot going into twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: six from at least a roster standpoint.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Cleveland has a pretty decent roster. They

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Speaker 3: got to figure out quarterback, but like I still think

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Speaker 3: they're what they have figured out now. I don't know

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Speaker 3: the severity of quin Shawn Judkins, but the production that

454
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Speaker 3: they got out of their rookies this year, Carson Swessinger

455
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Speaker 3: is going to win the defensive Rookie of the Year.

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Speaker 3: Harold Fannin looks like a hit. Quin Shawn looks like

457
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Speaker 3: a hit. Now, obviously you still got to figure out quarterback,

458
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Speaker 3: but that defense is still very good and they're probably

459
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Speaker 3: gonna have they are going to have the Jags first

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Speaker 3: round pick. They're gonna have two first round picks. So

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Speaker 3: I think Cleveland might be in the best in terms

462
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Speaker 3: of like top to bottom roster than any of the

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Speaker 3: other number nine though. But that's the difference, right, And

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Speaker 3: so there's questions obviously about the quarterback position in Baltimore,

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Speaker 3: questions about the quarterback position in Pittsburgh, questions about the

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Speaker 3: quarterback position in Cleveland. So for that reason, I feel

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Speaker 3: like it's Cleveland and Cincinnati very close to one another,

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Speaker 3: and then a halfway decent gap between Pittsburgh and Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. One other NFL note. Moegger pointed this out last night.

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Speaker 2: Right now betting favorite to win the Super Bowl Seattle

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Speaker 2: and the Los Angeles rams at plus five fifty And

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Speaker 2: as moe pointed out, one of the co favorites to

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Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl is currently a sixth seed in

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Speaker 2: the NFC.

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Speaker 3: Can they win three playoff games? Great question the road.

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Speaker 2: There was also yesterday a poll question that we came

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Speaker 2: up with what we were doing the Tony and moo

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Speaker 2: Football Show. And I want to ask you this, Austin,

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Speaker 2: if you could hire one of these coaches to coach

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Speaker 2: your football team next year, the AFC North, because I

481
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Speaker 2: think it's fascinating. I have Pittsburgh friends who would take

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Speaker 2: Zach Taylor and a heart beat. A lot of the

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Speaker 2: fans in Cincinnati, or some of the fans in Cincinnati

484
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Speaker 2: are ready to move on from Zach Taylor and would

485
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Speaker 2: take Mike Tomlin and a heart beat. Kevin Stefanski has

486
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Speaker 2: been a coach of the year. You look at what

487
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Speaker 2: Harrball has done in Baltimore. Moe put it as a

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Speaker 2: poll question yesterday, one of those coaches to coach the

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals next year, who would your pick me?

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Speaker 3: Of the four? Yes, current AFC North coach Zach Taylor.

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Speaker 2: I was surprised on Moe's Twitter poll that Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 2: got thirty seven percent of the votes, John Harball got

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Speaker 2: thirty five percent, Stefanski got sixteen, and just twelve percent

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Speaker 2: of the votes went to Zach Taylor.

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Speaker 3: Why are you surprised by that? People hate his guts?

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Speaker 2: I just I but I thought at a.

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Speaker 3: There's this thought out there that the grass is always greener.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, if you're a big fan, why you

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Speaker 3: would think Mike Tomlin is this great coach. He's just

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Speaker 3: rotated coordinators over and over and over and over again

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Speaker 3: over the course of his career. They haven't won a

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Speaker 3: playoff game in ten years. They he won the Super

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Speaker 3: Bowl with Bill Cowers team and with the Hall of

504
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Speaker 3: Fame quarterback in Ben Roethlisberger got blown out in the

505
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Speaker 3: other Super Bowl by the way that they got to

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's he's it's the same stuff over and

507
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Speaker 3: over again. They play the same game every year. That's cool,

508
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Speaker 3: you're in the conversation at nine and eight, But I mean,

509
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Speaker 3: we had this whole thing last year. The standard is

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Speaker 3: higher than nine and eight. It's more than just get

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Speaker 3: to the playoffs. It's more than just be above five hundred.

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Speaker 3: That's all Mike Tomlin has done.

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Speaker 2: I was sent a stat yesterday that Mike Tomlin in

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Speaker 2: their last five games against teams entering with eight or

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Speaker 2: more games below five hundred is.

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Speaker 3: Oh four and one. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Going back to twenty twenty, the lost to Ryan Finley

518
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Speaker 2: here for a two to ten and one Bengals team.

519
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 2: To say, Zach Taylor's been pretty good against him. They

520
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Speaker 2: tied the zero to eight Lions in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 2: They lost in twenty twenty three to the two and

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Speaker 2: ten Cardinals. In twenty twenty three they lost to the

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Speaker 2: two and ten Patriots, and last week they lost to

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Speaker 2: the three and twelve Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 3: They've lost to Cleveland and Cleveland like four years in

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Speaker 3: a row, haven't they. I just think by the way

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Speaker 3: they lost to the Browns in a playoff game at

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Speaker 3: home led by Baker Mayfield, I.

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Speaker 2: Just think it's I think there is significant fallout that

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Speaker 2: happens from the losing team on Sunday night.

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Speaker 3: I believe the words that Adam Schefter said is that

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Speaker 3: there is a wide ranging of potential outcomes for whoever

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Speaker 3: loses that game. Yeah, I feel like if Pittsburgh gets

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Speaker 3: to the playoffs, he's safe.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think both teams are safe. What do you mean, well,

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Speaker 2: I mean I don't think with a loss, does Baltimore

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Speaker 2: think about harball at all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, That's what I'm saying, Like, yeah, they're both coaches.

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Speaker 3: I think if.

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Speaker 2: I think a lost for the one makes it uneasy.

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Speaker 3: Correct, But you just said both are safe.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean whichever one makes the playoffs a safe.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I agree. The thing that I think is

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Speaker 3: interesting with hardball is Now, there's these rumors out there

545
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Speaker 3: about this disconnect with Lamar jacks two time MVP Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 3: We have no proof that this is really happening, but

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Speaker 3: there's a rumor out there that Lamar's been staying up

548
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Speaker 3: late playing video games and falling asleep in meetings. Him

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Speaker 3: and Kyler, Him and Kyler and Jermaine Burton. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if is it a call of duty release? That's time.

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Speaker 3: I got a PS five now, is this like a release?

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Speaker 3: Call of duty is dead?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Wow, it's over man. Okay, but that's I could do

555
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Speaker 3: three hours on that. I don't want to talk about it, but.

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Speaker 2: We'll take a break. We'll come back. We'll open up

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Speaker 2: the phone lines five, one, three, seven, four nine, fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 3: We'll also see North runs through the state of Ohio

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Speaker 3: from now on.

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Speaker 2: There it is. We'll talk well from football from Monday on.

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Speaker 2: It's like football in the state of Ohio as well.

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Speaker 2: Still to come. ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. Thanks

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Speaker 2: to Skyline Chiley.

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Speaker 1: You've been listening to football in the NATI on ESPN

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Speaker 1: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati dy Bengals.

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Speaker 1: Your front row seat to the fiercest debates in sports.

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Speaker 1: Mo Egger today at three pm on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back since he three sixty. You're listening on ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station and a service of Skyline Chili.

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Speaker 2: Our phone lines are open, open, and we welcome you

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Speaker 2: to call in five one, three, seven, four nine fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: We'll go there right now to talk to Mike. What's up, Mike?

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Speaker 7: Hey, guys, Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Merry Christmas. Not too bad, Mike, how about you?

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Speaker 7: Worst I've ever had in my life.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sorry to hear that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it was not good at all. How about you, Austin?

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Speaker 3: Not too bad at all?

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Speaker 4: Man? I was.

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Speaker 3: I was pretty pretty happy.

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Speaker 7: Good for you. Hey, you know what I got? I

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Speaker 7: never heard that.

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Speaker 5: End of the year.

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Speaker 7: Shown again on Thursday Tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow, it'll be a normal, normal first hour and then

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Speaker 2: we'll we'll rerun some of it to kind of recap

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five and look ahead to twenty twenty six

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Speaker 2: an hour two and three.

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Speaker 7: I wonder if you included my announcement of having spent

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Speaker 7: time in prison. That rocks the.

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Speaker 3: It did?

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Speaker 4: It did?

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Speaker 2: That was one of the point a major major point

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 7: Well, so, I've never felt so bad in my life.

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Speaker 2: Prison run.

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Speaker 7: You know what's intriguing me right now is about the Bengals.

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Speaker 7: Is I think the Bengals and the Niners are a

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Speaker 7: lot alike in their in their in their entire team.

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Speaker 7: Think about think about the quarterbacks, both really good, really good,

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Speaker 7: and then compare the defenses not that good. The offenses

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Speaker 7: can score on anybody. There's just a lot of similarities there.

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Speaker 7: Except I would take Shamhan over Zach Taylor all day long.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would take that. And I think too with

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Speaker 2: Robert Sala. I think he's gonna find his footing. They've

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Speaker 2: been decimated with injuries. Anytime you lose a guy like

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Speaker 2: Fred Warner, that's a lot to overcome. They lost Nick Bosa,

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Speaker 2: So I get the defense and what they need to

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Speaker 2: be doing. But man, like, when you watch San Francisco

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Speaker 2: A lot of times I watch the Bengals, and this

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Speaker 2: is not to discredit z Act, but you see the

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Speaker 2: greatness of Joe Burrow shine through all the time. When

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Speaker 2: I watch San Francisco, you just constantly see movements and

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Speaker 2: schemes and players and setting up different things. And I

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Speaker 2: think what Shanahan has done with Brock Party, and they

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Speaker 2: did it shorthanded the other night without George Kittle and

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Speaker 2: I Yuke's been out all year. But what I think

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Speaker 2: is fascinating is you can watch now in person and

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Speaker 2: you can see Brock Party's confidence growing game the game

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Speaker 2: and the players have talked about that as well, but

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Speaker 2: there's a great, great level of confidence in which they

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Speaker 2: are playing with. They're only gonna get healthier, and very quietly,

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Speaker 2: as we met, they're going to be playing for the

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Speaker 2: number one overall seed on Saturday.

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Speaker 7: Now, who in the hell will have even guessed that

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Speaker 7: a month ago. None of us, None of us, unless

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Speaker 7: maybe one of you did. I don't think so. I

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Speaker 7: haven't heard anybody say they said possible playoff team, but

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Speaker 7: number one seed. No, nobody saw that. And that was

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Speaker 7: a really fun game to watch.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was awesome. Awesome.

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Speaker 7: Now I know you don't like me talking about well

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Speaker 7: I stuff, but that game last night.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 7: Of course we always complained about the associating because it's

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Speaker 7: just so pervasive anymore, and not in that game, but

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Speaker 7: in all games the mess calls, but that call on too.

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Speaker 7: Two out well there when they were trying to come

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Speaker 7: down and score that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was and the and the announcers were adamant

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Speaker 2: as well that that is a that is a clear

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Speaker 2: pass interference call would have obviously at the very minimum,

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Speaker 2: gave the Rams a chance to kick the field goal

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Speaker 2: to tie and even a shot at the end zone

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Speaker 2: to win it. But I agree that that was a

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Speaker 2: call that both announcers were in agreement with that that

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Speaker 2: was a clear pass interference. But I think Aikman as

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Speaker 2: well as like, that's just a hard call to make

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Speaker 2: in the moment when things are are happening so fast.

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Speaker 2: But it did it. It It changed the outcome of

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Speaker 2: the game and in turn changes the outcome of the

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Speaker 2: playoff seating as well for the Rams.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it really screwed them because at five they would

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Speaker 7: have had not easy going but pretty not bad.

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Speaker 2: At six, Yeah, it's a whole different a whole different animal.

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Speaker 7: Oh they're in trouble now. What what's the ruling you

657
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Speaker 7: guys on on when they're going to review something? Can

658
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Speaker 7: they not ever review pass interference or how's that work?

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Speaker 2: I don't believe so that's not reviewable yet, is it? Austin?

660
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Speaker 3: No, they did it for a year and it was

661
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Speaker 3: a train wreck. So they took it back off.

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Speaker 2: And it's hard, like Austin said, because the year they

663
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Speaker 2: did it, it just became an absolute mess and the

664
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Speaker 2: flow of the game was was taken out. But you

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Speaker 2: see the other side of it, when you start talking

666
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 2: about well playoff seating and affecting a chance to get

667
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,959
Speaker 2: to a Super Bowl, that's a major miscall for sure.

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Speaker 3: I think coaches should be able to challenge it. And

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Speaker 3: my big thing with pass interference is I don't feel

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Speaker 3: like the officials ever accurately enforced the rule, especially when

671
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Speaker 3: you consider balls that are uncatchable. There are a lot

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Speaker 3: of pass interference calls made on balls that are nowhere

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Speaker 3: near being able to be caught, or they're out of bounds,

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Speaker 3: or it's stuff that it really doesn't affect the play.

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Speaker 3: So I think that should be enforced better. Yeah, I

676
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Speaker 3: think coaches should be able to challenge it, and if

677
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Speaker 3: that's the case, then within two minutes they should be

678
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Speaker 3: able to look at it as well.

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Speaker 2: From the booth, yep, I got it.

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Speaker 7: I couldn't agree more. And boy was that a hell

681
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Speaker 7: of a catch by Puka oh Man.

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Speaker 2: I thought he brought it in completely. It would have

683
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Speaker 2: been one of the greatest catches I've ever seen.

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Speaker 7: Oh but you know what the Rams today, it's on them, man, Yep,

685
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 7: they blew it. They took that. Evidently they took the

686
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Speaker 7: team too lightly. I know they had two starting offensive

687
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Speaker 7: linemen out to two or three defensive starters and then Russell.

688
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Speaker 7: But still they just acted in the first half like

689
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Speaker 7: they weren't interested.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: So anyway, guys, that's all I gott and I hope

692
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Speaker 7: the Bear Test can win that game.

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Speaker 2: You and me both, Mike, you and me both. I

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Speaker 2: know what, Austin, thanks. I don't think. I don't think

695
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Speaker 2: this guy. I think it's gonna be wild before they

696
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Speaker 2: win another game.

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Speaker 7: Yep, let me ask you this, Austin. Who's gonna win

698
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Speaker 7: more games than their conference?

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Speaker 2: Xavier or you see ooh Xavier. But it won't be

700
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Speaker 2: by much. At the bottom. I think the bottom of

701
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Speaker 2: the Big East is much weaker than the bottom.

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Speaker 3: Of the bag. The Nku is already up by like

703
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Speaker 3: four games, and both of them so the Norse.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the Norse whip the crap out of either one.

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Speaker 2: Mike, thank you, thank you, Mike, thanks Mike.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it was, you know, convenient Norse not

707
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Speaker 3: on the schedule for the Bearcats this year.

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Speaker 2: You know what we didn't talk about from last night.

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00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 2: One final thing in Monday Night Football. The Stafford missed

710
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 2: to Xavier Smith on that the last player or last

711
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 2: drive of the game, and people blame Stafford. By Stafford's reaction,

712
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 2: I think he was expecting Smith to cut that more

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Speaker 2: towards the sideline.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I heard Dan Orlofsky kind of put

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Speaker 3: it on Stafford because of the position of the defender

716
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Speaker 3: and that the receiver he thought did the right thing.

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Speaker 3: So there's a lot of different ways to look at it.

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Speaker 3: That's why it's a really big miss, man. That's why

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Speaker 3: I appreciated that that broadcast, because Luke Keikley, on one hand,

720
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Speaker 3: is saying exactly what you're saying, and on the other hand,

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Speaker 3: Orlovski saying, well, here's probably what you know Stafford was thinking.

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Speaker 2: I think they found It's hard to change how broadcast review,

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Speaker 2: but I think they found something with that. I really do.

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Speaker 2: We'll take a break. We'll finish up our number one

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Speaker 2: with some Cincinnati Bengal conversation. It's not the last Bengal conversation.

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Speaker 2: We'll have some in the third hour as well, and

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Speaker 2: obviously with Joe Danaman. To kick off our number two

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Speaker 2: at Sincy three to sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Here's an alley you don't can buy blue stop a job.

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Speaker 10: The past from Kirk Grees good look coming off the

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Speaker 10: scream I can recently throwing it up to Big.

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Speaker 5: Mellons free State buckets for Mustafa job.

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Speaker 11: He's up to.

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Speaker 2: Mustafa Chom on the lau from Kerkkrisa last night, part

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Speaker 2: of Mustapha Chom's eighteen point output. Kirk Crisa also made

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Speaker 2: five threes in the game to go along with u

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Speaker 2: Or to add to his fifteen points. We'll talk more

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Speaker 2: about the Bearcats as we get into the third hour

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Speaker 2: of today's show, But that call thanks to Dan Hord

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Speaker 2: back to back days, by the way, for Dan Hord

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Speaker 2: we get to Joe Daneman. Austin, I want to spend

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Speaker 2: some time later on the show about the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: three draft class for the Cincinnati Bengals. But we learned

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00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 2: yesterday that Joe Burrow and Zach Taylor's adamant and sane.

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00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow gives us the best chance to win. He's

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Speaker 2: going to start in this game on Sunday, and I

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Speaker 2: disagree with it. And Austin, you've been one that has

757
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: wanted Joe Burrow to play down the stretch, but you

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Speaker 2: also agreed that you'd be good with Joe Burrow and

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Speaker 2: his season coming to an end before Sunday's game against

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Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns. Why is that.

761
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Speaker 3: We've seen all we needed to see. He got back

762
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Speaker 3: out there, he played well. We know what the offense

763
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Speaker 3: can look like. They're not chasing wins, they're not chasing statistics,

764
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Speaker 3: they're not chasing incentives or stats. Maybe there's a couple

765
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Speaker 3: guys that might be doing that, But he came back

766
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Speaker 3: from the injury, he played well, he can still do it.

767
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Speaker 3: There's no doubt about his ability. There's no need this.

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Speaker 3: The game doesn't matter. It matters to Miles Garrett, which

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Speaker 3: we're raise me and that's part of it as well.

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Speaker 3: And they're gonna be doing everything in their power to

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Speaker 3: get Miles that sack, which means they're gonna bring some

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Speaker 3: exotic pressures, they're gonna move them around, they're gonna do

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Speaker 3: some stuff that maybe, Yeah, I just don't want to miscommunication. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I don't know that. I don't see Miles as

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Speaker 3: the type of guy who's gonna try to go kill

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow. No, I think there is a mutual respect there.

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Speaker 3: But still you don't want him being exposed to any

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Speaker 3: sort of hit like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if if you're going to play him, and they

780
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Speaker 2: are obviously you talk about guys still going for some

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Speaker 2: I think Chase Brown needs fifty three rushing yards for

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Speaker 2: a thousand. That's something you want to highlight. He's thirty

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Speaker 2: four or forty four yards away from fifteen hundred total.

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Speaker 2: There are things that can still be accomplished. But as

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Speaker 2: you said, you know what this offense can be. We've

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Speaker 2: seen that on full display. I do think it's interesting.

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Speaker 2: You know, we saw a couple sets with extra linemen

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Speaker 2: in the game against Arizona. Do you if you're going

789
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Speaker 2: to play him, do you go out there and say

790
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Speaker 2: we're going to play our normal stuff or do you

791
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Speaker 2: play him with the understanding of maybe some more max

792
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Speaker 2: protect maybe maybe take care of him a little bit more.

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Speaker 3: I think it would be on Zach Taylor to formulate

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Speaker 3: a game plan that is very similar to what you

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Speaker 3: would see in a preseason game. Agreed, or you're going

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Speaker 3: to get the ball out quick. You might move the pocket.

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Speaker 3: You're not going to force him to make a ton

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Speaker 3: of different reads and stretch and push the ball down

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Speaker 3: the field. Now Cleveland historically has taken that away from

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Speaker 3: you anyways, But I think it's a lot of RPOs,

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Speaker 3: quick slants, dumping it off screen, game all that sort

802
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Speaker 3: of stuff to kick the ball out of Burrow's hands quick,

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Speaker 3: not only because you don't want to give up that

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Speaker 3: zack to Miles Garrett number one and number two. You

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Speaker 3: just don't want him to get hit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we will break for the final time an hour

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Speaker 2: number one. When we come back, Joe Danaman a Fox

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Speaker 5: Tony Austen, Happy New Year. You got ready to turn

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Speaker 5: up tomorrow night?

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Speaker 2: Oh man, turn up, turnout, you name it. I'm doing it.

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Speaker 5: New Year's Players, I Plan on doing tomorrow night on

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Speaker 5: New Year's Eve, was watching football. That's what get me excited.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you fired up for the Buckeyes, Joe?

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Speaker 4: Is that what it is?

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Speaker 5: I'm looking I'm looking forward to that game. You know.

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Speaker 5: It's it's been interesting to last what seven to ten days,

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Speaker 5: ever since Miami beat Texas A and M where there's

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Speaker 5: this idea that Miami might be able to expose a

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Speaker 5: couple of flaws in Ohio State and I'm curious about it.

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Speaker 5: In fact, I spoke to Seth McLaughlin inside the Banglis

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Speaker 5: locker room yesterday and I was talking to him about

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Speaker 5: the idea that Miami has these guys on the defensive

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Speaker 5: line that can really get after Ohio State's offensive line,

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Speaker 5: who doesn't have a great run game, there not great

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Speaker 5: short yardage. And he said, what are we doing? He said,

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Speaker 5: what are we What are we doing? He said, Ohio

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Speaker 5: State has the best roster in the sport. They're going

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Speaker 5: to win the game. And he said, you know, in fact,

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Speaker 5: they're going to score a lot of points. So I said, okay, okay,

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Speaker 5: you called your shot. We'll see how it is. He

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Speaker 5: does think Georgia.

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Speaker 2: Is a big but George's flying under the radar last year.

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Speaker 5: Thinks that Ohio State could beat Miami. What's that time george.

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Speaker 2: Is flying under the radar? I feel like from a

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Speaker 2: lot of people, no one talks about the SEC champions

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Speaker 2: or plus five hundred to win it all?

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Speaker 5: How can nobody be talking about the sec R Nobody

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Speaker 5: from the SEC is ever under the radar? Come on, now,

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Speaker 5: come on now, now, what's interest thing about Georgia is Georgia?

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Speaker 5: All the numbers throughout the year will tell you that

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Speaker 5: that this isn't normal Georgia. Georgia's defense isn't built like

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Speaker 5: it usually is. But there's also a lot of people,

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Speaker 5: myself included, who thinks they're rounding into form at the

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Speaker 5: end of the year and they're playing their best at

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Speaker 5: the right time. So I think if we get Ohio

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Speaker 5: State Georgia in the semi finals, it's going to be

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Speaker 5: a fantastic football game. I think I think the four

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Speaker 5: quarter finals are all lining up to be great games.

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Speaker 5: But certainly when talking about Ohio State Miami, I kind

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Speaker 5: of lean with at mclaughrom. The closer we get to

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Speaker 5: the game, I think Ohio State it's going to be fine.

868
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 2: I think it'll be fascinating with the four teams that

869
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 2: had buys last year all losing how teams deal with

870
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 2: that extra time off. But outside of that, I agree you,

871
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: Ohigh State's got the best roster of the remaining teams.

872
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 2: They should win the game. Before we dive into the Bengals, Joe,

873
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: let me ask two NFL questions for you. One, who

874
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 2: is your NFL MVP? In two, because I think this

875
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 2: list could contain seven or eight different coaches. Who's your

876
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: coach of the Year in the NFL?

877
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 5: All right, I'll start with MVP. Up until last night,

878
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 5: it was for sure Matthew Stafford. And then what Drake

879
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 5: May did this weekend, and then what Matt Stafford did

880
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 5: last night, I think he's closed the gap. I still

881
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 5: kind of sometimes feel like that award or any award

882
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 5: of that magnitude can be somewhat of a lifetime achievement award,

883
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 5: and so I think Matt Stafford might get the benefit

884
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 5: of the doubt over Drake May because he's played in

885
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 5: the league along that he might end up getting that award.

886
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 5: But I think what Drake May has done this year,

887
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 5: I go back to what I was having discussions with

888
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 5: some of my friends who watch football as much as

889
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 5: we do. And I sent him a text about halfway

890
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 5: through the year and I said, Drake May is a

891
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 5: top fill in the blank quarterback right now, and everybody

892
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 5: wanted to say, oh, top ten, top eight. At what

893
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 5: point does this guy jump into the top five with

894
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 5: what he's doing, considering what he's playing with as well,

895
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 5: And now he's not playing with plumbers, but he certainly

896
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 5: doesn't have Davante Adams and Kouka Nakua and Kyron Williams,

897
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 5: all guys that can rise to the level of Pro

898
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 5: Bowl players around him. So I think he's done more

899
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 5: with less than when Matt Stafford does. But I'm gonna

900
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 5: lean Matt Stafford is a bit of a lifetime achievement.

901
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 5: Now as far as Coach of the Year goes, I'm

902
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 5: going to immediately jump to my mind was Sean McVay

903
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 5: and everything he's done. And I think once you get

904
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 5: into a playoff game, you see Sean McVay is one

905
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 5: of the best at what he does. Sure, But I think,

906
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 5: and you start thinking about teams that are going to

907
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 5: go to the Super Bowl, and I start thinking about

908
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 5: the AFC and are we going to be surprised if

909
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 5: we look up in six weeks and Dimiko Ryans at

910
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 5: the Houston Texas and the Super Bowl.

911
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

912
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 3: Nope, that's what I said is my vote.

913
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: Okay, you mentioned Drake May and the quarterback position. They

914
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 2: have one here in Cincinnati. I think could be the top.

915
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 2: If not, he's in the conversation for the top two

916
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 2: in the league. And Joe Burrow he's going to play

917
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 2: on Sunday. Zach Taylor made that very clear. On the

918
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 2: other side of the ball, Miles Garrett's going for the

919
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 2: NFL sack record. We just saw that that this Cleveland

920
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,919
Speaker 2: defense is still flexing its muscles. I know Joe wants

921
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 2: to play. I know Joe gives them the best chance

922
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 2: to play. Seeing what you've seen the last two weeks,

923
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 2: have you wavered from not at all or do you

924
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 2: agree with sending Joe Burrow out there on Sunday.

925
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 5: Well, here's what I think is what we're getting. I

926
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 5: think this is Dak Taylor in the Bengals organization understanding

927
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 5: if they want people to come to the game, they

928
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 5: want to sell tickets, they have to say that Joe

929
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 5: Burrow's playing. And if they say Joe Burrow's playing. Joe

930
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 5: Burrow is going to play what a quarter, maybe two,

931
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 5: maybe to halftime. I kind of feel like this is

932
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 5: going to play out like a preseason game. This is

933
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 5: just a guess. But if Dak Taylor comes out of

934
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 5: the podium mesterday and says, you know, Joe Burrow is

935
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 5: not playing, you're going to have thirty five thousand people

936
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 5: in the stadium. But if you come out and say

937
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 5: Joe Burrow is going to play, there are going to

938
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 5: be people who want to come see him play. There

939
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 5: are a lot of people who've never seen him play

940
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 5: in person. For example, my kid for Christmas, they had

941
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 5: never seen Joe Burrow play. Two of them and they

942
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 5: had a chance to go watch him and they saw

943
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 5: him play against the Arizona Cardinals and what looked like

944
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 5: the best offense in the NFL. So I think the

945
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 5: Bengals kind of have to do this organizationally just to

946
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 5: get some butts and seats for Sunday's game. But I

947
00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 5: do think it'll play out almost like a preseason game.

948
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 5: Even going back to my conversation after the game with

949
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 5: tomar Chase, if you saw it, we were talking about

950
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 5: his numbers and his outside chance to break his own

951
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 5: franchise records for catches in the season. Right now, he's

952
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 5: at one seventeen the records one twenty seven. And this

953
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 5: guy has had probably multiple games this year with fifteen

954
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 5: or more targets. When I say multiple, probably four or

955
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 5: five if you go back and look at the stats.

956
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 5: So certainly he can catch eleven passes in the game.

957
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 5: But he shot it down immediately like I'm not getting that,

958
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:30,959
Speaker 5: And I kind of thought in the back of my head, Okay,

959
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 5: he knows something we don't know about how it's going

960
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 5: to play Sunday against the Brown. So yeah, I'm okay

961
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 5: with the Bengals treating this like a preseason game of

962
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 5: playing Joe Burrow for a quarter maybe two, Jamar Chase

963
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 5: for a quarter maybe two, and then putting those guys

964
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 5: on ice for the offseason.

965
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 2: Offensively, we know the weapons at the disposal of Joe Burrow.

966
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 2: How much do you think Cody Ford plays into the

967
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 2: plans in the future at maybe wide receiver number three?

968
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 5: How fun was that? How fun has this been? And

969
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 5: it's a cool thing because and I've had this discussion

970
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 5: a few times on our Sunday Night Bengals show about

971
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 5: watching this team at the end of the season. If

972
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 5: this is your favorite team, whatever your favorite team is,

973
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 5: when they're in the situation where they're playing games that

974
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 5: don't have any playoff meaning attached, it can be one

975
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 5: of two things, right. You can sit back and be

976
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 5: entertained and enjoy watching your team play, or you can

977
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 5: be frustrated as heck, wondering what if and wondering why

978
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 5: now and where was this? And I think that's a

979
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,919
Speaker 5: hard thing too. And I can't tell Bengals fans how

980
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,919
Speaker 5: to fan and how to watch the game and how

981
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 5: to either enjoy it or be frustrated by it. But

982
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 5: I will say this about the offense and the way

983
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 5: it's looked the last couple of weeks. We all know

984
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 5: what it looks like when Joe, Jamar and t is

985
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 5: going the way they're going right now. And these are

986
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 5: the results, and certainly the fact that Miami and Arizona

987
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 5: looked disinterested helpe the Bengals put up the numbers they did,

988
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 5: but to win back to back games by twenty plus

989
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 5: points for the first time since the Super Bowl season,

990
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 5: and then the first time since before that was the

991
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 5: twenty fifteen season, which I think a lot of us

992
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 5: would argue is a Marvin's best team and be probably

993
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 5: the second best team that this franchise has had in

994
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 5: the last twenty five years. So when they're playing at

995
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 5: the level of the twenty fifteen team and the twenty

996
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 5: twenty one team, it could be frustrating. It can be

997
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 5: a what could have been, or it can be very

998
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 5: realistic what this still might be once the Bengals tried

999
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 5: to get it figured out again this coming offseason. They

1000
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 5: tried last off season. It didn't work defensively. We've seen

1001
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 5: some growth defensively through the year, but it's still there,

1002
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 5: right It's still in there with this team that they

1003
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 5: can perform at this level. They're not far off. And

1004
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 5: when I asked Zach Taylor about this yesterday, I said,

1005
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 5: what's the one message do you want to give to

1006
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 5: fans about twenty twenty six after seeing the way it's

1007
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 5: played out the last couple of weeks. He said three words,

1008
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 5: will be back. It will be back means they'll be

1009
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 5: back in the playoffs. They'll be back playing for big games,

1010
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 5: trying to win playoff games, trying to win championships. The

1011
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 5: long road to go, but I do think and again,

1012
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 5: I won't tell fans how to fan, not to be

1013
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:26,240
Speaker 5: frustrated by what they're seeing, but also enjoy what you're watching.

1014
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 5: I think it's okay to drink a little bit of

1015
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 5: the kool aid and see what it's still very realistically

1016
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 5: can be with these three being the core of a

1017
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 5: team going forward.

1018
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 3: We've talked a lot about the offensive line. One of

1019
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 3: the names that stands out to me is Dalton Reisner.

1020
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 3: What's the vibe that you get internally about the way

1021
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 3: that maybe they feel internally I should say about Dalton

1022
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 3: Reisner and potentially bringing him back this offseason.

1023
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 5: Well, I know he wants to come back. He has

1024
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 5: said that publicly multiple times that he really likes the

1025
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 5: fifth year, loves playing with Joe Burrow, likes playing with

1026
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 5: this offensive line, and it seems to be he's a

1027
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 5: bit of kind of the glue that finally put this

1028
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 5: whole thing together. Once he got his feet wet and

1029
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 5: his feet under him and they started playing as a

1030
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 5: cohesive unit. They've been very good in the second half

1031
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 5: of the year. Joe Burrow has said it, that Taylor

1032
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 5: has said it, this is the best the offensive line

1033
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 5: has played over a chunk of time in their time

1034
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 5: here in Cincinnati, so I wouldn't mess with a good

1035
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 5: thing and try to replace him with anybody else. I

1036
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 5: can't speak for the Bengals organization, but I don't know

1037
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 5: how you could look at it, what they have right

1038
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 5: now and not want to run it back and bring

1039
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 5: him back and have him be part of this offensive line.

1040
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 5: Because what they're doing in the passing game, what they're

1041
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 5: doing in the run game right now, I think is

1042
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 5: proof that this can be. And I would even argue

1043
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 5: if you go into some of the analytical stats, that

1044
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 5: this is the best offense in the world when they're healthy,

1045
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 5: and they've been healthy the last two weeks. And I

1046
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 5: know it's Miami and I know it's the Arizona, but

1047
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 5: even going back to Buffalo as well, the way they

1048
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 5: looked on the road in the snow against Buffalo, this

1049
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 5: is the best offense in the world. And if you

1050
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 5: can have continuity coming back in twenty twenty six from

1051
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 5: twenty twenty five, what are the big questions we always ask,

1052
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 5: right is fix the defense, fix the offensive line. The

1053
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 5: offensive line is healthy, it's in a great space right now.

1054
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 5: So if what it takes is bringing him back do it,

1055
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 5: bring him back, continue the continuity going forward, and protect

1056
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 5: Joe Burrow the best he can going forward. With this

1057
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 5: offensive line, they have to feel comfortable and I sure

1058
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 5: hope they have to feel like they have to bring

1059
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 5: Dalton Reisner back because it feels like he's been the

1060
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 5: final piece to this offensive line starting to play the

1061
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 5: kind of football they have to play.

1062
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 2: What do you make We mentioned so much about Higgins

1063
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 2: and t Higgins and Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow. Chase

1064
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 2: Brown's fifty three yards away from a thousand yard rushing season.

1065
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 2: With a huge game, he could reach over fifteen hundred

1066
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 2: total yards on the season. Talk about his development. As

1067
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 2: you know, we often talk about Duke Tobin's draft classes.

1068
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 2: You look at where they got him in the twenty

1069
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 2: twenty three draft. Is he a guy you're highlighting maybe

1070
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 2: earlier then the contract will be up to maybe try

1071
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 2: to link in long term and be a part of

1072
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 2: this going forward. I know it's usually a little bit

1073
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 2: dicey with running backs and how you handle those contracts,

1074
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 2: But with what you've seen from Chase Brown, is he

1075
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 2: a guy maybe you start the conversation early on getting

1076
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 2: an extension done, so.

1077
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 5: He is fifty plus yards away from one thousand rushing

1078
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 5: and then eighty one away from five hundred receiving. I

1079
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 5: know that would be a monster game. That would be

1080
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 5: a Christian mccafss type game to become the first Bengals

1081
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 5: player with a thousand yards rushing and five hundred receiving,

1082
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 5: Unless I'm wrong. I went back and looked at this

1083
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 5: the other night. No Bengal has gone one thousand, five

1084
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 5: hundred rushing and receiving since James Brooks in nineteen eighty six.

1085
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,959
Speaker 5: So even if he doesn't get there, that's the kind

1086
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 5: of conversation he's in right now for the kind of

1087
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 5: year he's had for the Bengals. And if you look

1088
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 5: at the numbers when he's with Joe Burrow and without

1089
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 5: Joe Burrow, and he preperforms like a top seven running back,

1090
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 5: maybe even higher when Joe Burrow's in there, and then

1091
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 5: when Joe Burrow wasn't, his numbers were down. I think

1092
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 5: the biggest key for Chase Brown and what's unlocked his

1093
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 5: confidence and unlocked his all around game is getting him

1094
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 5: the ball and checkdowns, not necessarily in the middle of

1095
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 5: the field, but more often to the flat, giving him

1096
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 5: a chance to put a foot in the ground, make

1097
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 5: a guy miss, and make some plays. The Bengals did

1098
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 5: that Sunday twice where they weaponize a check down with

1099
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 5: Chase Brown, and it made a huge difference for this team.

1100
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 5: And I think that's what you're seeing. You're seeing the

1101
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 5: confidence of him putting the foot in the ground and

1102
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 5: accelerating on one cut and becoming just an awesome running

1103
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 5: back this year. I think his performance here the second

1104
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 5: half of the season has elevated him into the conversation

1105
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 5: of what I think will be one of the more

1106
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 5: fascinating debates for Bengals front office members and also Bengals

1107
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 5: fans and shows like this of deciding what to do

1108
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 5: with Chase Brown in a second contract, because after they

1109
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 5: gave Joe Mixon the money for a second contract, I

1110
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 5: think we all said, Okay, that'll be the last time

1111
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 5: the Bengals do that. Right, They'll draft, they'll get the

1112
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 5: four years, they'll move on, they'll bring in a rookie,

1113
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 5: they'll plug and play, and maybe that's still the plan,

1114
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 5: and that's fine. The Chase Brown's a pretty special dude,

1115
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 5: and what he's done the last two years isn't just

1116
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:38,919
Speaker 5: produced his availability has been remarkable for as many times

1117
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,439
Speaker 5: as he's got the ball for his size, the guy

1118
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 5: plays every Sunday, he doesn't get hurt, he produces, and

1119
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 5: he's now put himself in the conversation of do the

1120
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 5: Bengals look at a second contract for Chase Brown, one

1121
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 5: that I would have said no before, but now I

1122
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 5: say maybe so. And I think that also, guys opens

1123
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 5: up the conversation of going back to what Joe Burrow

1124
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 5: talked about when he said they need to get more

1125
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 5: creative in roster building, and maybe that's starting to look

1126
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 5: at guys like Chase Brown and a Dack Hill and

1127
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 5: a DJ Turner who still have a year left here

1128
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 5: in Cincinnati on a contract and start getting ahead of it.

1129
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 5: Get ahead of it and lock these guys up that look,

1130
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 5: they're not the Big three, they're not the foundational pieces,

1131
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 5: but their next tier guys that help you win games

1132
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 5: and help you go to playoff games and help you

1133
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 5: win championships are the guys that you build around your

1134
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 5: big three, and guys like Dax Hill and DJ Turner

1135
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 5: and maybe a Chase Brown or guys that you reward

1136
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 5: early before they price themselves out of Cincinnati before the

1137
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:48,439
Speaker 5: negotiations start to turn into something ugly. And I think

1138
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 5: that might be a little bit of what Joe Burrow

1139
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 5: might be hinting at that it's not just draft and develop,

1140
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 5: it's reward early and then dive into free agency and

1141
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 5: build a roster that way. So it's going to be

1142
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 5: fascinating trying to figure out what the Bengals are going

1143
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 5: to do with Chase Brown because the way he fits

1144
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 5: and the way he's played, I think he has made

1145
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 5: himself a candidate to possibly getting paid on a second

1146
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 5: contract with the Bengals.

1147
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 2: How about Geno Stone? Are we going to talk ourselves

1148
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 2: into Geno Stone coming back? Because I heard out Golden

1149
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 2: Boy talk about how much he likes and how much

1150
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 2: he's improving.

1151
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 3: Surely that's coach speak. Joe Gino.

1152
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 5: Yes, I was in the room yesterday when he was

1153
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 5: talking about that, and I said, boy, God, bless the

1154
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 5: poor person in this room, because there's about twelve people

1155
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 5: in the media in the room taking notes and penning tweets.

1156
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 5: I said, who's going to be the poor soul that

1157
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 5: puts that out there and says rip Neter mentioned for

1158
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 5: about a week. I said, I'm not touching no, I

1159
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 5: want no pizza. That yeah, Genostone had to go. And

1160
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 5: I think it's been important because we've talked, you know,

1161
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 5: through seventeen weeks about about the Bengals defense and about

1162
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 5: what guys have proven they should be relied upon as

1163
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 5: contributors going forward. And I think it's just as important

1164
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 5: to find the guys that you need to weed out

1165
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 5: and guys that you can't rely on going forward. And

1166
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 5: I think we sat here today and looked at guys

1167
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 5: under contract for next year and picked out players that

1168
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 5: we think should be back as contributors slash starters for

1169
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 5: the Bengals. I think there's a solid six, there's a

1170
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 5: solid six on defense, and the others are all up

1171
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 5: for grabs. Starting with number twenty two. Geno Stone has

1172
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 5: to go. There has to be a difference, There has

1173
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 5: to be a change. And yes, that was even if

1174
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 5: it's not coach speaking, Genostone is helping with communication and

1175
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 5: getting guys lined up. God love you, great job. But

1176
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 5: when the ball snap, it's not good enough. And that's

1177
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:55,439
Speaker 5: where games are one that four to six seconds right

1178
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 5: in this four to six seconds has not been good enough.

1179
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 5: And we all saw it Sunday when he completely whipped

1180
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 5: on a wide receiver running down the sideline and it

1181
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 5: ended up in a touchdown. Yeah, that's got to be

1182
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 5: the first person in the first position that is addressed

1183
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 5: once the Bengals season is over.

1184
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,959
Speaker 2: How much has Miles Murphy helped not only his case,

1185
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 2: but maybe the view of this defense going forward. It's

1186
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 2: obvious a defense that needs to add starters in my

1187
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 2: opinion every level, but the consistent play of Miles Murphy

1188
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 2: has to be something that as seen as an extreme

1189
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 2: positive down the stretch of this season.

1190
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 5: There's no question he can be counted on as a contributor. Now,

1191
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 5: I don't think you can count on him as your

1192
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 5: number one defensive end. I think he'd be slots in

1193
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 5: as your number two guy, you're in a good position.

1194
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 5: I think if you slot him in as your number

1195
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 5: three guy, you're in a great position. Slotting him in

1196
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 5: his number three would mean that Shamar Stewart takes a

1197
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 5: big leap to number two and the Bengals go out

1198
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 5: and find a number one, probably not Trey Henderson, but

1199
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 5: probably find someone else to play that position. But even

1200
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 5: if you had to go Schamar's Stewart and Miles Murphy

1201
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 5: as your defensive ends.

1202
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 7: It's not the.

1203
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 5: Worst thing in the world. It's not ideal. And that's

1204
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 5: a credit to Miles Murphy that the light bulb has

1205
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 5: finally gone on somewhat. You know. We had Andrea Yoshibats

1206
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 5: on our Live Bengal show last night and we did

1207
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 5: kind of the end of the year superlatives, and one

1208
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 5: of the questions I asked was what player, Andre, do

1209
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 5: you think who is in a star right now is

1210
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 5: most likely to become a star? And he said immediately,

1211
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 5: Miles Murphy. He said, he's got every tool he pops

1212
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 5: in practice, and the way other guys talk about him

1213
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 5: in the locker room and in the coach's meeting rooms,

1214
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 5: he feels like he's got a shot here to really

1215
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 5: pop in year four next year, after really starting to

1216
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 5: show some flashes in year three. I think at the

1217
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,919
Speaker 5: beginning of the year, the jury was kind of out right.

1218
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 5: We didn't know about this guy, and I'm sure some

1219
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 5: people had already convicted him of being a bust. And

1220
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 5: I think I'd have been one of those guys. I'll

1221
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 5: raise my head and say I don't think Miles Murphy

1222
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 5: has it. I don't know if he can be a contributor,

1223
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 5: but he has proven a lot of people wrong in

1224
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 5: this year, and I think he's a guy you can

1225
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 5: rely on to me as one of the six players

1226
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 5: you can bring back defensively next year and feel really

1227
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 5: comfortable with if he's a starter on this defense. And

1228
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 5: that's a credit to him. Some guys take longer to

1229
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 5: develop for whatever reason, but he finally reached that point

1230
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 5: this year where he's making plays and the Bengals can

1231
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 5: count on him. I think in twenty twenty.

1232
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 2: Six, the last question I have on the Bengals is

1233
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 2: that development word, because this isn't development time for this organization.

1234
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow's going to be thirty next year. We've talked

1235
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 2: about the psychology side of Joe Burrow's actions a couple

1236
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 2: of weeks ago. I don't feel like you've got time

1237
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 2: to just wait slowly for guys on the defensive side

1238
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 2: of the ball to develop. So that would lead me

1239
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 2: to the question of as this season comes to a

1240
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,080
Speaker 2: close and you look to next year, what is your

1241
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 2: initial thoughts on what you're doing in the linebacker room.

1242
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 5: Well, I think they have developed some guys and I

1243
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 5: think that's what's been good about this year. I think

1244
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 5: the DJ Turner and Dak Hill's story has been great

1245
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 5: for this defense in twenty twenty five, that those guys

1246
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 5: have given a chance to go out and prove who

1247
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 5: they are. And so I think even though this year

1248
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 5: feels like a drop back fifteen yards punt, there are

1249
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 5: some good stories on defense. At linebacker, I'm counting one

1250
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 5: of the two rookies as a guy that you can

1251
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 5: rely on for next year. I think Demetrius Knight is

1252
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 5: a guy that you bring back in year two with

1253
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 5: the idea that he's a starter. I do think you

1254
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 5: have to go out into free agency and I think,

1255
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 5: along with Ginostone at safety, finding a free agent difference

1256
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 5: maker that steps in, a guy who has proven he

1257
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 5: can play on Sundays, a guy who can make plays

1258
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 5: and can elevated defense immediately has to be a priority

1259
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 5: for this team. I don't think can be draft another

1260
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 5: guy and see if you can put another rookie linebacker

1261
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 5: next to Demetrius Knight and see if he can be

1262
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 5: a playmaker. I think you have to go out in

1263
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 5: free agency this offseason with the idea in mind that Okay, look,

1264
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 5: the offense is great, the offensive continuity is going to

1265
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 5: be fine. Maybe we can draft the safety, but I

1266
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 5: think you have to circle linebacker as a free agent

1267
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 5: of someone who's proven it that they can play at

1268
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 5: this level and be a difference maker. It's a slot

1269
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 5: next to Demetrius Knight. I think that would solve a

1270
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 5: lot of problems for the Bengals in their front seven

1271
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 5: if they just put someone there who is capable, who

1272
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 5: is confident, who is confident that he can go out

1273
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 5: there and be that kind of a player. I don't

1274
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 5: think that's the draft pick. I think that's one that

1275
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 5: has to be addressed with a ready made starter and

1276
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 5: free agency.

1277
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 2: That is Joe Daneman Fox nineteen. I know you guys

1278
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 2: had the last show at the Levey last night with

1279
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 2: andre Yoshi Vash. What's coming up next at Fox nineteen?

1280
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 2: And when do you leave for Memphis?

1281
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 3: Joe tomorrow?

1282
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 2: No kidding, I didn't know if I could just catch

1283
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 2: a ride with you or what?

1284
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 7: What?

1285
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 2: What the plan was the.

1286
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 7: Next big thing?

1287
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 5: You guys believe this already. We're having meetings next week

1288
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 5: talking about spring training.

1289
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 12: Oh boy, there we go, next big event.

1290
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 5: Maybe we'll run it back. Yeah, maybe we'll get JJ

1291
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 5: Bleda live on the phone. Next year or this coming spring,

1292
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 5: like we did with the Reds last year at Brent

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Speaker 5: Shooter jumping on Live on since he three to sixty.

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Speaker 5: What a day that was, What a time to be alive. Yeah,

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01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 5: that's the next big event. But until then, gentlemen, Happy

1296
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 5: New Year. Are you guys getting Are you getting crunk

1297
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 5: on New Year's Eve?

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01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 2: I got a seven am flight tonight. I'm not getting crunk.

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01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 2: We'll celebrate New Years with the kids at like nine o'clock.

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01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 3: I don't do such things.

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01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 2: I'm worried. I hope for for your guys sake that

1302
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 2: that Ohio State takes care of business and you get

1303
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 2: to ring in the new year a little bit better

1304
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 2: than the last time the Buckeyes played on New Year's Eve.

1305
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that happened right at midnight.

1306
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 2: Kick yeap, just missed it, Just missed it.

1307
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 3: Oh age, Joe.

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01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 5: I wish the best for you and your eyes on

1309
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 5: New Year's e Oh.

1310
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 2: Danniman, thanks so much, man, Have a great new year.

1311
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 3: I'm never gonna say yeat again.

1312
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 5: I got eated on Sunday from the stands, and I'll

1313
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 5: yeat you guys today.

1314
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 2: Happy New Year, Let's go, Joe, Dan of Fox nineteen.

1315
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 2: Your talkbacks come up next.

1316
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 3: I'm working the game Sunday. We're going to be in

1317
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 3: the press box. If I run into Joe, I might

1318
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 3: have to break press box etiquette and yeat relatively loudly

1319
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 3: at Joe just to see what he would do there.

1320
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 5: It is.

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01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 3: I bet there'd be some others talkbacks next.

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01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station, It's that time for talkbacks.

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01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 13: Press the microphone, record your message for Austin and tone

1324
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 13: please keep it clean and don't be mean, and a.

1325
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 4: Sprinkle, sprinkle, drip drift.

1326
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 2: It's that time for talkbacks.

1327
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:18,719
Speaker 13: It's our favorite part of SINCY three sixty. So Austin, buddy,

1328
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 13: play those bunkbacks on your screen, and please try not

1329
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,600
Speaker 13: to sabotages.

1330
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 2: All right now tomorrow because it turns into a best

1331
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 2: of recap show of twenty twenty five. We don't have talkbacks,

1332
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 2: so today last half talkbacks in twenty twenty five.

1333
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 3: Indeed, today's the thirtieth. Is that right?

1334
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 2: Is your thirtieth?

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01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:41,639
Speaker 5: Sure?

1336
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 3: I got these right?

1337
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:46,680
Speaker 14: Yep, Tony and Austin Hi ray from please right. I

1338
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 14: have a question about Miles Murphy. Everybody's saying now that

1339
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:51,680
Speaker 14: the light's finally gone on.

1340
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 12: Period.

1341
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 2: I'm really confused.

1342
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 14: How can a guy be around for three years and

1343
01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 14: then Austin Mark a light goes on and now he's

1344
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 14: a force to be reckoned with.

1345
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 6: Period.

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01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 2: I just don't get that.

1347
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 3: How can that happen?

1348
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 14: I just figured he just wasn't that good and they

1349
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 14: were just afraid to face up to it. How can

1350
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 14: he all of a sudden be good?

1351
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 2: Question Mark. Sometimes it takes more time. It's a new

1352
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator, Yes, new scheme, new systems. Sometimes it just

1353
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 2: takes longer.

1354
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 4: You know.

1355
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 3: There, I better late than never. For multiple years thought

1356
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 3: that the Bengals should have fired Mary and Hart Hobby

1357
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 3: their defensive line coach, and they finally did, and they

1358
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 3: hired Jerry Montgomery. I think we've seen some development from

1359
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 3: some of those guys on the defensive line, especially Miles Murphy.

1360
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 3: So I think when you have a different position coach,

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01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 3: a different style of defense, maybe it's just a better

1362
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 3: fit for him. And more than anything, reps reps, reps, reps, reps.

1363
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 2: And I do think there is something there along the

1364
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 2: idea of getting more consistent reps and knowing that your

1365
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 2: reps aren't limited.

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01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 3: Period.

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01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 2: You get all the practice reps, you get all the

1368
01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 2: game reps. Exclamation points, exclamation point.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 15: They shared a talking to friend brother and I actually

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01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 15: wish you got a happy New Year, oh you. As

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01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 15: far as the Bearcats, if they really turn around, I

1373
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 15: would say the Clempson second half of the Clemson game,

1374
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 15: I saw the old bear Cats style. They were diving

1375
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 15: for a ball, they were they were playing defense, they

1376
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 15: were being tough on the other team.

1377
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 2: So I think that you ain't kidding, I mean you

1378
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:29,600
Speaker 2: since that second half of Clemson and last night this

1379
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 2: team's on a heater.

1380
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:33,799
Speaker 5: Good afternoon, gentlemen.

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01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 16: Can you possibly settle a question that a friend and

1382
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:40,639
Speaker 16: I are having a long discussion about the announcement today

1383
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 16: by the Hall of Fame about the fifteen final list.

1384
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 16: Would that be news that Willie Anderson's on that list?

1385
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 16: Or was I already a poor gone conclusion that he

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01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 16: was going to be on the list and the Hall

1387
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 16: of Fame is just making news I did trying to

1388
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:57,639
Speaker 16: clear enough.

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Speaker 3: They do this every year. They announce it in phases.

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01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 3: They go from like semi finalists to finalists, and so

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01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 3: the last announcement was a semi finalist and this announcement

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01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 3: is the I don't think it was a huge surprise. Yeah,

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01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 3: it's it's kind of the same schedule every single year. Now.

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01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 3: You may have heard earlier.

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01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 2: That I think he said. Like as far as it

1396
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 2: being Willie Anderson, like him making it to the finals,

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01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 2: is that a surprise to you? No, I don't think

1398
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 2: so either.

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01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 3: No. I mean, I don't think it's ever a foregone

1400
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 3: conclusion that people are going to make the list. But

1401
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 3: like if you think of this time a year ago,

1402
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 3: December twenty eighth, a year ago, they announced the finalists

1403
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 3: and he was on that list. So it's just just

1404
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 3: the same time every year. But earlier this year they

1405
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:52,639
Speaker 3: announced the finalists for the Senior Committee, which included Ken Anderson,

1406
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick, Robert Kraft, those type of guys.

1407
01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 14: All I said was that the redacted blackdown portions of

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01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 14: the Epstein files.

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01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna do it.

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01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 7: Hi.

1411
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:15,440
Speaker 6: Can you guys talk about the Bengals draft positioning implications

1412
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 6: based on the outcomes of the games this weekend sometime today?

1413
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:24,679
Speaker 2: Hopefully that's a lot.

1414
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:27,640
Speaker 3: It's not that much. I think I can find it.

1415
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 4: I have it.

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01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 2: We'll do that. In football, the Natty next.

1417
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:33,719
Speaker 17: Man I didn't know our boy Hank Hill is doing

1418
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 17: promos for Trainer games, and I swear to God it's him,

1419
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 17: because when you listen to that commercial, which is on

1420
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 17: every two seconds on your Guys channel, and hey, I'm

1421
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 17: not complaining, I'm just stating fact. The guy sounds just

1422
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 17: like Hank Hill.

1423
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 2: You'll hear him. He's the one that goes oh.

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01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:57,719
Speaker 17: All he needs to say after that is damn it, Bobby.

1425
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 3: Maybe I've been saying recently, I've been saying left hand

1426
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 3: side of the bar.

1427
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 2: Maybe he is.

1428
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 18: Okay, Fellows, stop me if you've heard this one before

1429
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 18: the Bengals win the last three games of the season.

1430
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:17,679
Speaker 18: Taylor stays, Tobn stays, we get a mid round draft pick,

1431
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 18: and they wasted on some stupid reclamation project that they

1432
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 18: never needed to begin with. The best thing that could

1433
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 18: happen for the fan base of this team is for

1434
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 18: them not to only lose, but for them to get

1435
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 18: embarrassed by the Browns, so something well finally came.

1436
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 2: Nothing that's going to change from that.

1437
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 3: The result of this game has no bearing, hardly at all.

1438
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 2: It's already done.

1439
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:42,680
Speaker 3: Like they're still gonna pick in the middle of the

1440
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 3: third round.

1441
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 2: It's already done.

1442
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 3: That's gonna happen, regardless of whether they would or lose.

1443
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 19: I want nothing but chaos rep in the city out

1444
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 19: of his sunny hot Zona.

1445
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 5: What up, Tony?

1446
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 4: What up?

1447
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 5: Body? Yup?

1448
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:54,799
Speaker 19: Chaos and the AFC North this week. I want Pittsburgh

1449
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,559
Speaker 19: season done. The rat Birds will lose in the first round,

1450
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:01,600
Speaker 19: but Pittsburgh man in the season. Kill that noise immediately.

1451
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 19: Somebody pull that plug. If not, I pull it fast, Yo,

1452
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 19: Wes Nope, huhuh not buying it.

1453
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 4: Man.

1454
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 19: This season already done. Smoke the Cats the TV. This

1455
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 19: season is gonna be so horrible to watch?

1456
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 3: Is it baseball season?

1457
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:22,679
Speaker 2: But Ronnie, what if they beat Houston? What if they win?

1458
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 3: I think you're like New Year's resolution would be to

1459
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 3: stop saying stupid stuff like that.

1460
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 2: What if they win? Stop happened?

1461
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:35,759
Speaker 20: Hello everybody, I hope you all had a great Christmas.

1462
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 20: Hope you're gonna have a fantastic New Year. And when

1463
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 20: you're out and joining your New Year's Eve, make sure

1464
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 20: you be responsible for people that love you. Indidja and

1465
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 20: wait for her to draft question. I see when the

1466
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 20: Bengals left that love bang downs Bailey all off the board,

1467
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 20: which actually got Tate there and one of the top

1468
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 20: cornerbacks of them.

1469
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 3: What do you do?

1470
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 20: You go and get Tate another weapon for the fossil

1471
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 20: king Joe Burrow, or you go grab one of them

1472
01:14:58,640 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 20: top corners.

1473
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 2: What do you got That's a great question. I mean

1474
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 2: as a as a bias quarterback, I'd always take another

1475
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 2: wide receiver weapon. You imagine that.

1476
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 3: He said, love Bane downs Bailey all off the board, man,

1477
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 3: I would probably I would consider Carnel Taate. Yeah, in

1478
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 3: that situation, people would be so mad, people would lose

1479
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 3: their It would make them a better football team. I

1480
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:35,879
Speaker 3: think Carnel Tate won't get past Cleveland.

1481
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 4: Hey.

1482
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:41,680
Speaker 5: They the New Year's and Austin took a couple of

1483
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 5: days off to spend time with family, and it would

1484
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 5: get my battery charged. With the EHL strike officially being over,

1485
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:54,759
Speaker 5: how do you anticipate the cyclones season for the rest

1486
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 5: of the year.

1487
01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 2: I I haven't dove into it. That's one of my

1488
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six resolutions is to dive more into the cyclones. Really, Okay,

1489
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 2: I'll hold you to that. Now that the strike is over,

1490
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 2: I'll hold you to that. They figured out the helmets sit.

1491
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 3: You gee, what's up?

1492
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 15: Baby?

1493
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 2: What up? I heard the show was over? Somebody tell

1494
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 2: me you was back on. But welcome back.

1495
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 3: I'm always amazed how many people are out there living

1496
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 3: underneath a rock. Welcome back, Tony and Austin.

1497
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 21: It's Adam and Mount Adams. What I wanted to wish

1498
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 21: you guys, and I'll talk back Nation and Happy New Year.

1499
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:33,639
Speaker 21: I'll be working tomorrow, so I won't get to partake

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01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:36,759
Speaker 21: in the celebration, but I hope everybody has a safe holiday.

1501
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,839
Speaker 21: I just received in the mail today a cream colored

1502
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 21: hoodie with a Marlborough type logo that says signetti on it.

1503
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 21: I'm ready for football on Thursday.

1504
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 5: I'll be off for it.

1505
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:46,719
Speaker 3: Austin.

1506
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 21: I hope we can run it back in two weeks

1507
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 21: in Miami. Hope you guys have a good one. Take care,

1508
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 21: there we go? All right, there we go. I respect that.

1509
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 8: Hey, guys, Marcus from the Growth Marcus, Happy New Year.

1510
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 8: I hope you guys enjoyed the last the holiday. I

1511
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 8: don't know why, maybe it's just my optimistic but six

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01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:12,679
Speaker 8: eighty nine ninety wins for the Reds. This time next

1513
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 8: year we'll be talking about the Bengals. Battling for the

1514
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 8: one seed and hopefully FC will be in the MLS

1515
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 8: Cup final.

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01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:24,599
Speaker 2: And that would be fun.

1517
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 3: If I know anything about New Year's Eve, I know

1518
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 3: Marcus gonna be dumping them.

1519
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 2: Oh, dumping them.

1520
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 22: My next performance will be Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer

1521
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:50,720
Speaker 22: performed in the Chowed Brindle Key.

1522
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 23: Hey, this is Todd from Cheva. I think the Bengals

1523
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 23: have a safety on.

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01:17:58,080 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 2: The roster already, Yes, Geno's don't.

1525
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 23: I think they should give it the Cam Taylor bread.

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01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 23: Give him a go. Yeah, there'll be some learning curve

1527
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 23: and stuff involved, but he's a grass up, he's a

1528
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 23: ball hawk, can cover tight ends, no problem. Thought. What

1529
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 23: you guys thought about that? Let me know.

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01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think that they're in a

1531
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:19,679
Speaker 2: mode that they can roll some mountain and see what happens.

1532
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:21,599
Speaker 2: I don't think they have time for that. I think

1533
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:23,600
Speaker 2: they've got to get proven commodities.

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01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:25,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think because they did too much of that

1535
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 3: this year and just to see if guys can develop.

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01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 3: I can understand that thought process, and the Bengals try

1537
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 3: to do that with Dax Hill when they drafted him.

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01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 3: I don't know that Cam Taylor Britt has the football

1539
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 3: IQ to play that position. That that would be my

1540
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 3: worry with Cam. Youre talking about Geno Stone, like getting

1541
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 3: guys in the right position, in the right defense. That's

1542
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 3: the freaking bare minimum for safety. Like that's what Al

1543
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 3: Golden said yesterday. Gino does the bare minimum, yes and nice,

1544
01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:00,040
Speaker 3: then when the ball is snapped he's awful. And so

1545
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 3: if you can't even do the bare minimum, which is

1546
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 3: part of the reason why Geno or why Von Bell

1547
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 3: played so much last year. So he got them into

1548
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:09,679
Speaker 3: the right defense, but then he couldn't play after the snap,

1549
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:10,959
Speaker 3: similar situation.

1550
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 24: No, guy, I think there's no way you'd even consider

1551
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 24: bringing Troy Henderson back. I think something the other day,

1552
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 24: something about that you don't want he got back. Let

1553
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 24: him go, and I'll tell you what, I wouldn't be

1554
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 24: averse to seeing a Logan Wilson come back on a

1555
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 24: team friendly league minimum. Guy probably ain't going nowhere else.

1556
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,720
Speaker 24: Let him come back, be a leader. I don't think

1557
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 24: him fifteen stass the guy staff the game.

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01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 2: Guy, I don't think that's gonna happen.

1559
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 3: I don't think so.

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Speaker 11: Hello, this is former President Ronald Reagan Laria. It's been

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01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 11: a wonderful year everyone. I hope everyone has a safe

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01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:52,639
Speaker 11: and happy New Year. Exclamation point. Anyone got any exciting plans?

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01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 11: Question mark, have a great win and looking forward to

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01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 11: seeing everyone in twenty twenty six?

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01:19:58,120 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 4: Period?

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01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 3: Oh no, whoa, whoa. It's really funny, is like I

1567
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 3: get it gives me a preview of like what everyone says.

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01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 3: And it didn't even register him saying that like it

1569
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 3: did put a period in question.

1570
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:23,599
Speaker 2: Market in the actual transcription. It's nice to hear from

1571
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:26,599
Speaker 2: Nancy today. Yep, yeah, all right, we're done. All right,

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01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 2: we'll take a break and by request, by request, some

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01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:38,560
Speaker 2: playoff draft scenarios. We're not not playoffs in no scenarios

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01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 2: in Week eighteen. That comes up next on Football in

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Speaker 2: NATI ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: Ball in the NATI brought to you by butt Light

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01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 1: on ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: All right, that sound you heard right there means it's

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01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 2: time for Football in the NATI on ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 2: Sin Sports Station. We do have more football to talk about.

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01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:04,640
Speaker 2: In the third hour. We'll look a little bit more

1582
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:07,679
Speaker 2: in depth at the twenty twenty three draft class. We'll

1583
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 2: talk UC's win last night over Lipscomb, and you'll hear

1584
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:14,800
Speaker 2: from West Miller and some more phone calls five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:17,639
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. We were asked in one of our talkbacks Austin,

1586
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 2: what does the week eighteen slate mean for possible draft

1587
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:25,799
Speaker 2: scenarios for the Cincinnati Bengals.

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01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 3: Well, as of right now, it's on. The Bengals are

1589
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 3: the tenth pick in the twenty twenty six NFL Draft.

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01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 3: They can pick between eight and twelve. They cannot pick

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01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 3: any higher than eighth. They cannot pick any lower than twelve. Now,

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01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:46,719
Speaker 3: the chances of them picking eighth are very very slim.

1593
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 3: They would need New Orleans to beat Atlanta Kansas City

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01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 3: to win. The Bengals would obviously need to lose and

1595
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 3: so on. Okay, but it is most likely that the

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01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 3: Bengals pick I believe eleventh. They have about a forty

1597
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 3: six percent chance to pick eleventh in the draft. That's

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01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:10,679
Speaker 3: obviously assuming that they beat the Cleveland Browns and based

1599
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 3: off the predictions of the other results, So it is

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01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 3: a five percent chance to pick eighth. It is a

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01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:21,639
Speaker 3: make sure I didn't lose my spot fourteen percent chance

1602
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 3: to pick ninth, fourteen percent chance to pick tenth, forty

1603
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 3: six percent chance to pick eleventh, and twenty one percent

1604
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 3: chance to pick twelfth.

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01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 2: Okay, for what it's worth, field Yates' latest mock draft eighth.

1606
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 2: He had Spencer Fanu going the tackle, dominant tackle from

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01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 2: Utah going number eight. He had Caleb Downs going number nine,

1608
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 2: Ruben Bain Junior going number ten, and then Mansour Delane

1609
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:55,680
Speaker 2: cornerback from LSU was his eleventh draft pick. There you go,

1610
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:59,680
Speaker 2: So just kind of what the players. And again it

1611
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 2: is December thirtieth, It is way too early for mock drafts.

1612
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 2: The teams around the Bengals seventh Washington, they're four and twelve.

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01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:09,679
Speaker 2: The Bengals are not going to pick ahead of them.

1614
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:14,440
Speaker 2: Eighth is New Orleans, ninth is Kansas City, tenth is Cincinnati.

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01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 2: They are all six and ten. Right behind the Bengals

1616
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 2: at the eleventh pick. Right now are the Miami Dolphins

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01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:23,559
Speaker 2: at seven and nine, and then the twelfth pick belongs

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01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 2: to the Rams by way of the Falcons, and the

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01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 2: Falcons are at seven and nine, Tampa is at seven

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01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 2: and nine, and so on. So I think the Bengals

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01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:35,680
Speaker 2: are more than likely stay put in that ten to

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01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:40,959
Speaker 2: eleven spot. Some other noteworthy items today, we mentioned Stefan

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01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 2: Diggs at the top of the show is facing strangulation

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01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:49,560
Speaker 2: and assault charges. Trayvon Diggs has been cut by the

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01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys today. Not a good day for the Diggs family.

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01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 2: No Also AFC North news, it is being said right

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01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 2: now that TJ. Watt quote could return and play in

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01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:07,759
Speaker 2: the AFC North title showdown on Sunday night. Mike Tomlin

1629
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 2: said he has quote optimistic about his potential inclusion in

1630
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:14,440
Speaker 2: this game, so they.

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01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 3: Have that as well. Interesting TJ. Watt perhaps back looking

1632
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 3: at this like the draft order, I think what's interesting

1633
01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 3: again is that there's like two quarterbacks that people feel

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01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:29,800
Speaker 3: like could go in the first round. That's it, and

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01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:35,760
Speaker 3: that really makes the top ten fascinating. Vegas. You can

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01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 3: almost certainly you can almost fill out the card right

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01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 3: now that they're going to take Fernando Mendoza at number one.

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01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 3: The Giants are they going to take a quarterback? The Jets?

1639
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 3: Would they take Dante Moore out of Oregon? Would they

1640
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:51,599
Speaker 3: feel good about that? The Titans aren't going to pick

1641
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 3: a quarterback Arizona needs one, but he may not be

1642
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 3: available Cleveland.

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01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 2: I feel like it's a bad year to need a quarterback,

1644
01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:00,599
Speaker 2: and it is. It's a terrible one. And next year

1645
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:05,679
Speaker 2: is a very rich quarterback class. So these it's interesting

1646
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 2: to me too, like have you seen enough from Schador

1647
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 2: to want to see more?

1648
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 3: Right? And so I think some of these teams are

1649
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 3: going to be thinking about next year's class of quarterbacks.

1650
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 3: And with that being said, does that mean that they're

1651
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 3: more willing to trade up, which would be not good

1652
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:27,599
Speaker 3: for the Bengals If teams are willing these teams right here,

1653
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 3: you know, like Arizona, Cleveland, Tennessee, the Jets, the Giants.

1654
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 3: The Giants I think feel a little bit of pressure.

1655
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 3: But those are teams that might miss out on Mendoza

1656
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 3: and are thinking, Okay, well, we don't mind if we're

1657
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 3: back up here a year from now. I think the

1658
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 3: Giants like dart though I know, but like that's what

1659
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:48,640
Speaker 3: I'm saying, we don't mind if we're we don't need

1660
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:50,600
Speaker 3: a quarterback, or we don't mind if we're back up

1661
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 3: here a year from now. We'll trade back. Yeah, which

1662
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:57,440
Speaker 3: means a team like the Rams could trade up Detroit

1663
01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:00,120
Speaker 3: could trade up, Baltimore could trade up to get that

1664
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 3: missing piece that they feel like they need on their

1665
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:05,800
Speaker 3: offense or on their defense, and how that obviously could

1666
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 3: take away from some of the players like the best

1667
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 3: part about being a team like the Bengals and picking

1668
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:11,719
Speaker 3: in the top ten is the fact that you already

1669
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 3: have your quarterback.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 3: Unfortunately this year there aren't a bunch of teams ahead

1672
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 3: of you that are gonna be drafting quarterbacks.

1673
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 2: Sure, ESPN dot COM's latest Power rankings came out with

1674
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 2: one thing learned from each team this season. They have

1675
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:30,799
Speaker 2: the Bengals twenty third in the week seventeen Power Rankings,

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01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 2: and it says this what we learned this season. The

1677
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 2: young defenders are turning the corner ben Baby right. Cincinnati's

1678
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:40,679
Speaker 2: finally getting improved play from young players such as Miles

1679
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 2: Murphy and Dj Turner. Murphy leads a team with five

1680
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 2: and a half sacks and has earned praise from coaches

1681
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 2: and players for a strong year. Dj Turner, a Pro

1682
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 2: Bowl whethy resume, is having his best season to date,

1683
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:54,760
Speaker 2: notable for a defense that needs its former top one

1684
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 2: hundred draft picks to perform at a high level. Strong

1685
01:26:57,400 --> 01:27:00,599
Speaker 2: defense is crucial for the Bengals to re open their

1686
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:04,400
Speaker 2: hopes of the championship window. That's from ESPN's Ben Baby.

1687
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 2: Do you agree that the young defenders are turning the corner?

1688
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 2: I think those two have. I'm gonna say outside of

1689
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:12,600
Speaker 2: those two, I don't think anybody else has. What do

1690
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:14,679
Speaker 2: you make of Osai? I go side down the stretch,

1691
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 2: hurt himself by It's not to his fault, it's the injury.

1692
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 2: Can you pay Joseph Osai if you're the Bengals.

1693
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:25,720
Speaker 3: Well, I think on the open market, he's looking at

1694
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:28,559
Speaker 3: fifteen million dollars. I wonder if he would sign another

1695
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 3: one year deal around that, or maybe a ten to

1696
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:34,720
Speaker 3: twelve million dollar deal with incentives if he wanted to

1697
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 3: come back. He did that this year, took I believe,

1698
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 3: an eight million dollar deal to come back and try

1699
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 3: to build on what he finished off last year. I

1700
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 3: think it's interesting is his his agent is David Mulligetta,

1701
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 3: and the Bengals clearly have had issues negotiating with Mullageta

1702
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 3: in the past. But I feel like there would be

1703
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 3: some some more interest in Osai this year than there

1704
01:27:57,040 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 3: has been in years past. Yeah, but if the injury

1705
01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 3: is significant or you know if it's something that could

1706
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:04,519
Speaker 3: drive that price down a little bit, I think the

1707
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 3: Bengals would take a little bit more of a serious

1708
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 3: look at it. I think they should be taking a

1709
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 3: serious look at it. But you don't want to overpay,

1710
01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:12,000
Speaker 3: and Mulliget is going to try to get you to

1711
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:15,679
Speaker 3: do that. Correct. We will talk a little bit more.

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01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 3: I will say about Osai. I think Osai is great

1713
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:21,600
Speaker 3: for the locker room. I think that the players in

1714
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 3: that locker room really like him. I think he lightens

1715
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:27,680
Speaker 3: the mood a little bit. I think he's just one

1716
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 3: of those guys who gets along with everybody. I just

1717
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:31,600
Speaker 3: I don't think there is a value in that.

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01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if you came into this year saying, Okay,

1719
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:37,800
Speaker 2: here's a prove it deal for Joseph Osai, what did

1720
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 2: he prove to you this year? Yeah, previous the same

1721
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 2: player he was last year. I don't think there's there's

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Speaker 2: much more with that. So let's carry over this conversation.

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Speaker 2: We'll relate it to the twenty twenty three draft class

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01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:51,719
Speaker 2: with some upcoming decisions and uh some free agent primer

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01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:54,759
Speaker 2: for the Cincinnati Bengals. Will also dive into what happened

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Speaker 3: Order us a couple right now. I got I'm just busy.

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01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 2: There's so much going on with the show and what

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01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 2: we got going on. Speaking of what we have going on,

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01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:05,479
Speaker 2: let's do an exercise here. And touched on this a

1764
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:07,800
Speaker 2: little bit yesterday, and I wanted to bring it back here.

1765
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:12,240
Speaker 2: The twenty twenty three draft class because Duke Tobin and

1766
01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:15,000
Speaker 2: I think justifiably so, has taken a lot of criticism

1767
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:19,360
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty three draft class looks better as this

1768
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 2: season has gone on. The Bengals in twenty twenty three,

1769
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:27,760
Speaker 2: with their first round selection, took Miles Murphy with the

1770
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:32,439
Speaker 2: twenty eighth pick in the NFL Draft. Now we are

1771
01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:35,759
Speaker 2: already having the conversation about Miles Murphy going into next year, Austin,

1772
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 2: But as of right now, Miles Murphy has a place

1773
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 2: on this defense. Would you agree?

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01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:40,439
Speaker 3: Yes?

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01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:44,040
Speaker 2: In the second round of that same draft, the Bengals

1776
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:49,719
Speaker 2: took dj Turner. Dj Turner is playing at an All

1777
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 2: Pro or a Pro Bowl level. Pretty good selection. With

1778
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:57,360
Speaker 2: their third round pick, they took Jordan Battle. And this

1779
01:31:57,400 --> 01:32:00,559
Speaker 2: is kind of where I'm a little dicey, Austin, Like,

1780
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:06,040
Speaker 2: is Jordan Battle good? Would Jordan Battle be better if

1781
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:09,840
Speaker 2: he played next to a competent safety? Or is Jordan

1782
01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 2: Battle kind of he is who he is at this point, Like,

1783
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:16,479
Speaker 2: is Jordan Battle guy you're in the future, investing in

1784
01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:18,879
Speaker 2: or moving on from as part of this defense.

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01:32:19,160 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 3: I think Jordan Battle is fine, and I think Jordan

1786
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:26,679
Speaker 3: Battle has a place on this team next year. And

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Speaker 3: I think it's fair to say that when he has

1788
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:31,599
Speaker 3: a better player next to him, he plays better. Yeah,

1789
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:34,200
Speaker 3: much like we saw with Ted Karriss this year. He

1790
01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 3: had better guys on his left and right and he

1791
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:40,040
Speaker 3: played better and the offensive line played better. And go

1792
01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:43,400
Speaker 3: back to his rookie season, Jordan Battle in twenty twenty three.

1793
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:46,160
Speaker 3: He started seven games and he had he was like

1794
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:49,880
Speaker 3: the highest rated PFF rookie defender in all of football, right,

1795
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:53,200
Speaker 3: and you're thinking, Okay, the Bengals have found something here. Well,

1796
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three, Von Bell was still pretty good

1797
01:32:56,240 --> 01:33:02,360
Speaker 3: and it felt like that's safety position was still something

1798
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:05,640
Speaker 3: that was a strength of the team. And since then

1799
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 3: it just hasn't been.

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Speaker 2: Later in that draft, and I'll revisit the mid round selections.

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01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:13,000
Speaker 2: They did take dj Ivy in the seventh round, not

1802
01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:14,479
Speaker 2: to talk to play him yesterday.

1803
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:15,720
Speaker 3: He's got a spot next year.

1804
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 2: But the picks for me that are interesting andre Yoshi

1805
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 2: Vash in the sixth round and Chase Brown they got

1806
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 2: in the fifth round. Now, one could make the case

1807
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:27,840
Speaker 2: Austin to try to get to the table early with

1808
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:30,240
Speaker 2: DJ Turner and get him inked up, because I think

1809
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:34,360
Speaker 2: he's that good of a player. The other player in

1810
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:38,040
Speaker 2: this is Chase Brown, and it's why we kind of

1811
01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:39,799
Speaker 2: I brought it up a little bit with Joe Daneman,

1812
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:42,360
Speaker 2: and I wanted to get your take as well. I

1813
01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:45,040
Speaker 2: talked with Mo about it yesterday. Chase Brown was a

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Speaker 2: fifth round pick. Bengals gave him an opportunity. He knows

1815
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Speaker 2: the system in Cincinnati. He's playing around a very talented

1816
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 2: skill group, which gives him more advantageous opportunities. In my opinion.

1817
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:04,640
Speaker 2: The offensive line is getting better and he is flourishing

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01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:07,960
Speaker 2: into a very good running back in the National Football League.

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01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:10,680
Speaker 2: And again you got him in the fifth round. Is

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Speaker 2: Chase Brown the type of player? And I feel like

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01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:17,920
Speaker 2: we see this when we talk about the elite organizations

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Speaker 2: in the NFL. One of the constants I feel like

1823
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:22,400
Speaker 2: we always talk about is they draft well and then

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Speaker 2: they sign those draft picks and extend them and they

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01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:29,679
Speaker 2: don't always wait until you have to resign that draft pick.

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01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:32,599
Speaker 2: A lot of these teams that are at the elite level,

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01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:36,400
Speaker 2: when we talk about organizations in front offices Austin, they

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01:34:36,439 --> 01:34:39,040
Speaker 2: get out ahead of these situations. And one would say, well,

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01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 2: why would Chase Brown sign early? Well, for Chase Brown,

1830
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:44,080
Speaker 2: maybe take less money, but you have more security. Now,

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01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:47,960
Speaker 2: running back is a dangerous position you go into a

1832
01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 2: year and kind of let things ride and you go

1833
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:52,360
Speaker 2: through an injury and you lose yourself a lot of money.

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01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:57,120
Speaker 2: Is Chase Brown Austin the perfect example of a player

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01:34:57,240 --> 01:35:00,800
Speaker 2: for this organization to not wait until the deal is up,

1836
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:04,880
Speaker 2: but to start having these conversations. Now, get an extension done,

1837
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:07,160
Speaker 2: get that one in your back pocket, and then move on.

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01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:10,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it seems to me like it's it's

1839
01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:13,680
Speaker 3: pretty simple, like this is what it's supposed to look like.

1840
01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:15,800
Speaker 3: You draft a player that can be a part of

1841
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:19,080
Speaker 3: your team. I think the last couple of weeks should

1842
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:23,880
Speaker 3: be indicative to both Chase Brown and the Bengals about

1843
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:28,800
Speaker 3: what this relationship can be and what the success can

1844
01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:32,080
Speaker 3: look like for both sides. Here is I think Chase

1845
01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 3: Brown perfectly fits the role that Zach Taylor wants him

1846
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:37,559
Speaker 3: to be in in his offense. I think he's gotten

1847
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:41,519
Speaker 3: better every year, especially at pass protection, Like he's done

1848
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:44,160
Speaker 3: everything that they've wanted him to do, and the scrimmage

1849
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:47,439
Speaker 3: yards and anytime you're in the same conversation as James

1850
01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:50,280
Speaker 3: Brooks and Bengals history, that's a really good thing. Sure,

1851
01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:53,439
Speaker 3: And so as far as I'm concerned, Yeah, like this

1852
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:54,360
Speaker 3: is exactly.

1853
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:57,640
Speaker 2: You don't have to wait, get it done early, and

1854
01:35:57,680 --> 01:36:01,360
Speaker 2: it gives him security, it gives you you security, and

1855
01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:03,519
Speaker 2: it's another piece that you know and you don't have

1856
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:05,360
Speaker 2: to worry about. Okay, do we have to address running

1857
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:09,719
Speaker 2: back next year? When get it done? Make it easy,

1858
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:12,679
Speaker 2: get to the table now. It's the type of things

1859
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:15,800
Speaker 2: again that I think the upper tier organizations take care of.

1860
01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:20,120
Speaker 2: Andre Yoshi vass is an interesting one as well. Fan favor,

1861
01:36:20,160 --> 01:36:21,960
Speaker 2: a lot of people like him. I think he had

1862
01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:25,479
Speaker 2: a really positive game last week against the Arizona Cardinals.

1863
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 2: He's an interesting one going forward because you got him

1864
01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:30,120
Speaker 2: in the sixth round, Austin, I know you have another

1865
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:34,960
Speaker 2: year with him, are you do you expect that there's

1866
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:38,000
Speaker 2: more that you can get from Yoshi vas or at

1867
01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:39,800
Speaker 2: this point? Do you know what it is? And you

1868
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 2: maybe got to start planning on if you want to

1869
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:43,920
Speaker 2: upgrade wide receiver three going forward.

1870
01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:45,840
Speaker 3: I feel like we've reached the ceiling with him. I

1871
01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:47,599
Speaker 3: hope that's not the case, but that's kind of what

1872
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:50,519
Speaker 3: it seems like to me. And solid but not a

1873
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:53,960
Speaker 3: great player. Yeah, So for that reason, it's like I

1874
01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:55,920
Speaker 3: kind of feel the same way about Yoshi that I

1875
01:36:55,920 --> 01:36:59,519
Speaker 3: feel about Barrett Carter, which is we can't be at

1876
01:36:59,560 --> 01:37:01,439
Speaker 3: training cam talking about how this guy is going to

1877
01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:05,320
Speaker 3: be a starter, like you just can't. I haven't seen

1878
01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:10,000
Speaker 3: enough to feel like he's gonna be that guy. And

1879
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:13,200
Speaker 3: if he is, then I would hope you've reinvested in

1880
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:16,880
Speaker 3: Chase Brown, like I do think those two things are connected.

1881
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:19,160
Speaker 4: And if.

1882
01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:21,960
Speaker 3: I just don't look at him and be like, all right,

1883
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:26,639
Speaker 3: that dude wins enough to feel like he's a real

1884
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:31,120
Speaker 3: weapon the on the offense. And we've seen it in

1885
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:33,840
Speaker 3: the past. This team can draft wide receivers. They're good

1886
01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:36,599
Speaker 3: at it, they're good at developing it, they're good at

1887
01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:39,840
Speaker 3: finding those guys. So I'm sure they'll draft one. I

1888
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:43,439
Speaker 3: know they'll draft one again this year. Is it going

1889
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:45,000
Speaker 3: to be in the third round? Is it going to

1890
01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:46,720
Speaker 3: be in the second round. Could it be like we

1891
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:48,720
Speaker 3: said earlier with Carnell Tait in the first round. If

1892
01:37:48,720 --> 01:37:50,479
Speaker 3: that's the case, then the writing is very clearly on

1893
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:52,760
Speaker 3: the wall for Andre gyos Swash and he becomes I think,

1894
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:56,840
Speaker 3: and it can't battle with Mitchell Tinsley, But yeah, I

1895
01:37:57,200 --> 01:37:58,640
Speaker 3: don't look at him and be like, all right, this

1896
01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 3: dude's a weapon. And the Bengals should be doing everything

1897
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:03,639
Speaker 3: in their power to keep him on the field next year.

1898
01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:05,840
Speaker 3: He just hasn't won enough. Let me ask you another

1899
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:08,160
Speaker 3: player just twenty twenty two. He's got the club option

1900
01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:10,200
Speaker 3: for twenty twenty six, so the Bengals can bring him

1901
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:11,200
Speaker 3: back at twelve million.

1902
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:16,080
Speaker 2: Dax Hill. Dax Hill. Look, guy, say what you want to,

1903
01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:17,640
Speaker 2: but he's been asked to do a ton. It's not

1904
01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:20,120
Speaker 2: easy to switch positions in the NFL. He's done it twice,

1905
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:25,679
Speaker 2: He's battled injuries, he's had multiple coordinators, and I think

1906
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:28,519
Speaker 2: you could make the argument down the stretch, and again

1907
01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:30,599
Speaker 2: it's hard because of the competition, but down the stretch,

1908
01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:33,120
Speaker 2: I think we've seen the best play we've seen of

1909
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:36,599
Speaker 2: Dax Hill in his time here in Cincinnati. He's done

1910
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:39,360
Speaker 2: so as an outside corner opposite of DJ Turner, and

1911
01:38:39,400 --> 01:38:41,640
Speaker 2: people have wondered is it safety, is it slot? Is

1912
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:44,559
Speaker 2: it outside? I think he's in his best position right now.

1913
01:38:45,160 --> 01:38:48,320
Speaker 2: Can you start twenty twenty six and be confident in

1914
01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:51,240
Speaker 2: where this defense needs to be if you have DJ

1915
01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:53,439
Speaker 2: Turner and Dax Hill as your two outside corners, Yeah,

1916
01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:55,880
Speaker 2: I feel pretty good about that me too. Like as

1917
01:38:55,960 --> 01:38:58,680
Speaker 2: much as this defense needs to do. I feel like

1918
01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:00,880
Speaker 2: you feel pretty good about where they can be if

1919
01:39:00,920 --> 01:39:02,320
Speaker 2: those are your two day one corners.

1920
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:04,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and keep in mind DA's coming off of a

1921
01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 3: knee injury. People say that it really takes a year

1922
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:09,559
Speaker 3: before you start to feel like yourself, and I know

1923
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:11,479
Speaker 3: we're kind of at that point now for Dax, and

1924
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:14,320
Speaker 3: I think he's performed a lot better. I've been especially

1925
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:17,479
Speaker 3: impressed his ability to bounce inside and outside and against

1926
01:39:17,479 --> 01:39:19,760
Speaker 3: different types of players, and the way that he was

1927
01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:24,200
Speaker 3: going up against Trade McBride and him and Djivy working together.

1928
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:28,599
Speaker 3: He's just an athlete. He's been a pretty decent tackler.

1929
01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:31,200
Speaker 3: He's been aggressive in the run game, which I think

1930
01:39:31,240 --> 01:39:34,040
Speaker 3: is really important for a corner. You don't find those

1931
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:36,960
Speaker 3: very much in today's NFL. So yeah, I would feel

1932
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:38,840
Speaker 3: fine about that. And the Bengals, of course, already did

1933
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:40,680
Speaker 3: pick up that fifth year option, so he's going to

1934
01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:43,800
Speaker 3: be there next year, and I think that's a good thing.

1935
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:47,280
Speaker 2: It's hard because you can't run it back with everybody, right.

1936
01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:49,599
Speaker 2: You have to make the decisions to move on from

1937
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:55,519
Speaker 2: this team and put them in the championship window. As

1938
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:58,320
Speaker 2: it relates to twenty twenty six, free agents. Let me

1939
01:39:58,360 --> 01:40:01,479
Speaker 2: just run down the list. You tell me if you're

1940
01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:03,200
Speaker 2: in or out on twenty twenty six of them as

1941
01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:07,400
Speaker 2: a Bengal Trey Hendrickson out. According to spot track, his

1942
01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:10,840
Speaker 2: market value is twenty five point five million dollars. I'm

1943
01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:12,400
Speaker 2: with you, I'm out for.

1944
01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:14,720
Speaker 3: I think that doesn't matter. I don't think if his

1945
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:18,280
Speaker 3: franchise tag might be twenty seven and a half.

1946
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:20,080
Speaker 2: On the open market, that's what they're They think he

1947
01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:26,480
Speaker 2: could get Joseph Osai. His market value has projected fifteen

1948
01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:29,880
Speaker 2: million dollars in or out on Osai. I would be

1949
01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:34,000
Speaker 2: in okay on that. Ted Carris Yeah, six and a

1950
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:34,439
Speaker 2: half million.

1951
01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:36,680
Speaker 3: Arry signed him to an extension, didn't they? So there

1952
01:40:36,680 --> 01:40:37,160
Speaker 3: he's fine.

1953
01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:43,680
Speaker 2: Geno Stone, no out, Joe Flacco in, Noah fan in.

1954
01:40:44,320 --> 01:40:46,800
Speaker 2: Really even with Eric All coming back, I don't know

1955
01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:50,040
Speaker 2: what Eric is going to look like. Lucas Patrick.

1956
01:40:52,720 --> 01:40:56,040
Speaker 3: In just because dev death is a major need.

1957
01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:59,640
Speaker 2: I think the projected market value on spot track for

1958
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:02,120
Speaker 2: Dalton Risner is two point three million dollars.

1959
01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:04,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, he'll probably make five in.

1960
01:41:04,439 --> 01:41:08,120
Speaker 2: And I'm good with that. What about Cam Taylor Britt out?

1961
01:41:08,640 --> 01:41:11,000
Speaker 2: Guess what ten? Cam Taylor BRIT's market value is probably

1962
01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:14,799
Speaker 2: pretty decent. Fifteen million, Yeah, no things, Nope, Taylor Hudson.

1963
01:41:15,560 --> 01:41:18,240
Speaker 2: In trying to think any other names that may be

1964
01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:21,599
Speaker 2: on this list, that's essentially the major names.

1965
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:23,720
Speaker 3: What about some say in the list? You ready for this?

1966
01:41:23,800 --> 01:41:28,920
Speaker 2: Okay? Brian Cook, it's played pretty well for Kansas City.

1967
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:32,599
Speaker 2: I would kick the tires there.

1968
01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:42,400
Speaker 3: Twenty six years old, Cam Curl twenty seven years old.

1969
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:45,000
Speaker 2: I would go I would lean more Cook, Okay.

1970
01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:49,519
Speaker 3: Kobe Bryant, I like Kobe two, twenty seven years old,

1971
01:41:49,640 --> 01:41:51,839
Speaker 3: sixty one point nine coverage grade.

1972
01:41:51,840 --> 01:42:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tough. What was the coverage grade? Sixty one

1973
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:02,360
Speaker 2: point nine? Yeah, I think that'd being upgrade.

1974
01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:06,840
Speaker 3: Reid Blankenship turning twenty seven. I'd be in on Reid, Okay.

1975
01:42:07,160 --> 01:42:09,400
Speaker 2: I think I'm a fan of Reid Blankenship.

1976
01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:13,120
Speaker 3: Kyle Duggar talked about him earlier this year. Ends up

1977
01:42:13,160 --> 01:42:13,840
Speaker 3: with Pittsburgh.

1978
01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:14,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1979
01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:18,320
Speaker 3: Jakwan Brisker, all right, Brisker. I mean these are the

1980
01:42:18,360 --> 01:42:20,519
Speaker 3: type of guys that are kind of the names the

1981
01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:26,080
Speaker 3: Bengals realm of players that they would go after.

1982
01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:27,960
Speaker 2: Thirty seven year old Harrison Smith.

1983
01:42:30,520 --> 01:42:33,400
Speaker 3: I mean he played pretty pretty damn good on Christmas.

1984
01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 3: He did, if you can bring in Flacco, you might

1985
01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:37,240
Speaker 3: as well bring in him.

1986
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:44,240
Speaker 2: I'm in Brian Cook's market value says fourteen million. I would.

1987
01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:46,040
Speaker 3: I would be good with Brian Cook. I'd be open

1988
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:46,320
Speaker 3: to that.

1989
01:42:46,360 --> 01:42:49,760
Speaker 2: I think him and Jordan Battle could be good at

1990
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:52,479
Speaker 2: the back end. Our friend Ricky Uchino brought up a

1991
01:42:52,479 --> 01:42:55,519
Speaker 2: good point to me, Ricky Ringside. I love Rick because

1992
01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:59,360
Speaker 2: he usually does think something outside the box. He said,

1993
01:42:59,400 --> 01:43:04,200
Speaker 2: what if the Bengals trade for Jesse Bates? Ooh, Atlanta

1994
01:43:04,280 --> 01:43:05,920
Speaker 2: kind of in no man's land.

1995
01:43:06,040 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, now, the way they finished the season could impact that,

1996
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:14,240
Speaker 3: But I hadn't even considered that a possibility, and I

1997
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:15,360
Speaker 3: don't know if if it.

1998
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:17,320
Speaker 2: Be open to it. It just doesn't sound like something they

1999
01:43:17,320 --> 01:43:19,080
Speaker 2: would ever do, right, It never sounds like something they

2000
01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:19,400
Speaker 2: would do.

2001
01:43:19,439 --> 01:43:22,479
Speaker 3: But like you talk about what Burrow said about getting creative,

2002
01:43:22,840 --> 01:43:26,880
Speaker 3: about you know, being serious about fixing the defense, that's

2003
01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:28,440
Speaker 3: something he'd.

2004
01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:31,040
Speaker 2: Be twenty nine next year, still very much in the prime.

2005
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:36,759
Speaker 3: Good with me, I would, yeah, I would just wonder.

2006
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:38,680
Speaker 3: Off the top of my head. I don't know his

2007
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:42,920
Speaker 3: numbers for his contract, but I feel like you're getting

2008
01:43:42,920 --> 01:43:43,880
Speaker 3: towards the end of it there.

2009
01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:46,680
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty six, he is due to make his cap

2010
01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:50,240
Speaker 2: hits twenty four million. His base salary is thirteen Okay,

2011
01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:54,080
Speaker 2: that's doable, and then twenty twenty nine you could avoid it,

2012
01:43:54,640 --> 01:43:56,559
Speaker 2: or twenty twenty seven, right, it's a void year.

2013
01:43:57,160 --> 01:44:00,200
Speaker 3: So I mean, I don't know that's that's that's a

2014
01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:01,040
Speaker 3: fascinating one.

2015
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:02,840
Speaker 2: And that would be like, that would be the type

2016
01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:05,679
Speaker 2: of move though that says we're not trying to develop,

2017
01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:08,240
Speaker 2: We're trying to win right now. I mean there's there

2018
01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:10,360
Speaker 2: would be no other type of move that would signify

2019
01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:11,840
Speaker 2: that more than Jesse Bates.

2020
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:13,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, And now, I don't know that it would be

2021
01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:17,200
Speaker 3: the most perfect fit coming in with Al Golden and

2022
01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:19,599
Speaker 3: I think Jesse Bates worked really well with Von Bell

2023
01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:21,280
Speaker 3: and worked really well with lou An Aruma, and that's

2024
01:44:21,320 --> 01:44:23,680
Speaker 3: why they were so successful. So there would certainly be

2025
01:44:23,760 --> 01:44:26,320
Speaker 3: a learning curve for him coming back in. And I'm

2026
01:44:26,360 --> 01:44:28,519
Speaker 3: not just putting this out there because he's a familiar name,

2027
01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:30,960
Speaker 3: but it's like, oh, yeah, I mean this is a

2028
01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:34,680
Speaker 3: guy who's an affordable, effective safety. Yeah that you know,

2029
01:44:34,760 --> 01:44:37,960
Speaker 3: the Bengals have in the past been fond of former players.

2030
01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:40,320
Speaker 3: I just wonder if that's you know, that's something that

2031
01:44:41,240 --> 01:44:43,880
Speaker 3: when you think about trying to be creative this offseason,

2032
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:47,439
Speaker 3: looking at all your options, I would be open to that.

2033
01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:51,280
Speaker 2: It's crazy. I'm looking at the Baits deal with the Falcons.

2034
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:57,559
Speaker 2: He was guaranteed thirty six million at signing in twenty

2035
01:44:57,600 --> 01:44:59,960
Speaker 2: twenty three. His base salary was just a million dollars.

2036
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:04,479
Speaker 2: It was one million, seven hundred and fifty twenty twenty four,

2037
01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:07,840
Speaker 2: one point five million this year. It'll jump up to

2038
01:45:07,960 --> 01:45:10,680
Speaker 2: thirteen million next year. I mean, that is it. They

2039
01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:13,760
Speaker 2: did a lot of creative ways to get that deal

2040
01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:15,479
Speaker 2: done for Jesse Bates.

2041
01:45:15,680 --> 01:45:17,800
Speaker 3: I think the Bengals have spent a little more than

2042
01:45:17,840 --> 01:45:19,840
Speaker 3: that trying to replace them. Trying to replace them.

2043
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:22,120
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, shout out to Rick Uccino.

2044
01:45:22,240 --> 01:45:22,400
Speaker 9: Man.

2045
01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:25,720
Speaker 3: Now, the Bengals are right often when it comes to

2046
01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:28,679
Speaker 3: cutting ties with guys, but the ones that they miss

2047
01:45:28,760 --> 01:45:33,800
Speaker 3: on are big ones. It's brutal. Yep, Zeitler, Witworthitler, Jesse

2048
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:38,639
Speaker 3: Bates and hell. Even waiting on Chase and Higgins cost

2049
01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:39,479
Speaker 3: them a ton of money.

2050
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:41,960
Speaker 2: And that's why I think it even says more to

2051
01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:44,320
Speaker 2: get out in front of Chase Brown.

2052
01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:49,120
Speaker 3: I agree, Let's take a break, Let's switch Gears.

2053
01:45:49,479 --> 01:45:52,240
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Bearcats and what they did last

2054
01:45:52,280 --> 01:45:54,720
Speaker 2: night against Lipscomb. Summer saying, Austin, when you look back

2055
01:45:54,760 --> 01:45:57,000
Speaker 2: on this team in March and you're figuring, okay, are

2056
01:45:57,000 --> 01:45:59,800
Speaker 2: they five seed to seven seed? Where are they at?

2057
01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:05,240
Speaker 2: Folks will say that night against Lipscome changed everything. We'll

2058
01:46:05,240 --> 01:46:07,479
Speaker 2: talk about the win. You'll hear from West Miller next

2059
01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:10,479
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2060
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2061
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2062
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2066
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2067
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2068
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2072
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2073
01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:53,280
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2074
01:46:53,439 --> 01:46:57,559
Speaker 2: just one moment. Another phone call before we do so

2075
01:46:57,640 --> 01:46:58,160
Speaker 2: from Rob.

2076
01:46:58,240 --> 01:47:01,439
Speaker 12: Hey Rob, I'm doing great, guys.

2077
01:47:01,439 --> 01:47:02,320
Speaker 3: How you doing today?

2078
01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:04,519
Speaker 7: Great?

2079
01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:06,719
Speaker 6: Just want to wish you guys a happy New Year

2080
01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 6: and keep up the good work. I enjoyed listening to

2081
01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:11,040
Speaker 6: you guys when I can.

2082
01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:12,600
Speaker 3: Thanks.

2083
01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:16,400
Speaker 6: I totally agree with what you guys said about, you know,

2084
01:47:16,680 --> 01:47:20,000
Speaker 6: Bengals showing Joe Burrah. We're all in a couple of

2085
01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:22,840
Speaker 6: ideas for that too. On top of the Jesse Bates.

2086
01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:24,680
Speaker 6: When you guys say I'm done with that, I like

2087
01:47:24,720 --> 01:47:29,640
Speaker 6: cook too. If you can't get baits. DJ Reader is

2088
01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:32,479
Speaker 6: a free agent. He's not happy up in Detroit. From

2089
01:47:32,479 --> 01:47:36,040
Speaker 6: what I understand, he had a cap hit for eleven million.

2090
01:47:36,120 --> 01:47:38,559
Speaker 6: I think last year you might get getting for like

2091
01:47:38,640 --> 01:47:40,719
Speaker 6: eight on a one year deal or something like that.

2092
01:47:41,360 --> 01:47:46,320
Speaker 6: He graded at seventy overall PFF grade tier Tart's a

2093
01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:48,280
Speaker 6: free agent, but I thought we had him come in

2094
01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:51,400
Speaker 6: and I don't. I don't think he rodes well for

2095
01:47:51,479 --> 01:47:56,200
Speaker 6: us as far as his character, but he's there, and uh,

2096
01:47:57,280 --> 01:48:00,160
Speaker 6: I just Jalen Phillips for the Eagles. I know he's

2097
01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:02,400
Speaker 6: a linebacker at about two hundred and sixty pounds. He

2098
01:48:02,400 --> 01:48:06,400
Speaker 6: plays more defensive him, but our ends play linebacker anyway,

2099
01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:09,439
Speaker 6: so he's a possibility as as far as a two

2100
01:48:09,439 --> 01:48:10,000
Speaker 6: way player.

2101
01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:13,920
Speaker 7: Well, I just wanted you guys give me your opinion

2102
01:48:13,960 --> 01:48:14,240
Speaker 7: on them.

2103
01:48:14,280 --> 01:48:14,559
Speaker 5: Guys.

2104
01:48:14,680 --> 01:48:17,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rob, I appreciate the phone call. Thank you. It's

2105
01:48:17,960 --> 01:48:19,720
Speaker 2: this is the hardest part, Austin. And this is like

2106
01:48:19,760 --> 01:48:21,840
Speaker 2: when this is when you go to the scouting departments

2107
01:48:22,600 --> 01:48:25,599
Speaker 2: because there are so many names like Rob just mentioned

2108
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:27,439
Speaker 2: that are out there, of guys that maybe you head

2109
01:48:27,439 --> 01:48:30,040
Speaker 2: in for a visit before, or maybe you have it,

2110
01:48:30,120 --> 01:48:31,519
Speaker 2: or maybe you've had your eyes on for a year

2111
01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:32,800
Speaker 2: or two and now they're going to be a free

2112
01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:36,920
Speaker 2: agent and now it makes sense. It's just it's why

2113
01:48:36,920 --> 01:48:39,840
Speaker 2: the scouting department is so crucial, because you have to

2114
01:48:39,920 --> 01:48:43,600
Speaker 2: identify not only the players, but how they fit in

2115
01:48:43,640 --> 01:48:46,920
Speaker 2: the system that's being run here. Yeah, not all good

2116
01:48:46,920 --> 01:48:49,920
Speaker 2: players are good fits in every system.

2117
01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:52,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, without a doubt. And you know, Jalen Phillips, that's

2118
01:48:52,760 --> 01:48:56,040
Speaker 3: an interesting name. I know Philly fans are pushing hard

2119
01:48:56,040 --> 01:48:58,280
Speaker 3: for the Eagles to extend him. He's having a really

2120
01:48:58,280 --> 01:49:00,840
Speaker 3: good season and I think will make a pretty good

2121
01:49:00,840 --> 01:49:02,880
Speaker 3: amount of money. I wonder if the Bengals be willing

2122
01:49:02,880 --> 01:49:06,719
Speaker 3: to pay that Khalia Davis from San Francisco twenty seven

2123
01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:09,559
Speaker 3: years old is having a solid season. Devonte Wyatt from

2124
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:12,800
Speaker 3: Green Bay is a guy who's gonna command a little

2125
01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:15,479
Speaker 3: bit of money that I would be interested in. But honestly,

2126
01:49:15,560 --> 01:49:18,640
Speaker 3: the especially the interior of the defensive line, it is

2127
01:49:18,680 --> 01:49:23,240
Speaker 3: a very very thin free agent class. Like there's just

2128
01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:27,080
Speaker 3: not a lot of guys out there, which means that

2129
01:49:27,120 --> 01:49:29,080
Speaker 3: the Bengals are probably gonna have to roll with who

2130
01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:33,639
Speaker 3: they have and invest in a defensive tackle or an

2131
01:49:33,640 --> 01:49:36,479
Speaker 3: interior defensive lineman at some point in the draft. One

2132
01:49:36,479 --> 01:49:38,360
Speaker 3: of the names that gets brought up is Peter Woods

2133
01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:41,479
Speaker 3: from Clemson as someone that you might be wanting to

2134
01:49:41,479 --> 01:49:44,000
Speaker 3: take a look at. But I think because of how

2135
01:49:44,080 --> 01:49:47,759
Speaker 3: thin that position group is in free agency and guys

2136
01:49:47,760 --> 01:49:49,560
Speaker 3: some of those names I mentioned, they're probably going to

2137
01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:53,160
Speaker 3: be extended with their teams. Then it becomes even thinner,

2138
01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:55,439
Speaker 3: and it makes me wonder if the Bengals will have

2139
01:49:55,479 --> 01:49:57,760
Speaker 3: to maybe double up on that position similar to what

2140
01:49:57,760 --> 01:49:59,240
Speaker 3: they did at linebacker last year.

2141
01:49:59,479 --> 01:50:02,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I look at is it d line goes a

2142
01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:04,840
Speaker 2: lot of the edge rushers that are free agents, they're

2143
01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:08,000
Speaker 2: getting up there in age, Khalil Max almost thirty five,

2144
01:50:08,200 --> 01:50:11,440
Speaker 2: Asam Reddick is simply the same age as Trey Hendrickson.

2145
01:50:11,640 --> 01:50:17,080
Speaker 2: Joey Bosa is over thirty, Leonard Floyd, Denico Autrey, you

2146
01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:19,599
Speaker 2: have being down the list of free agents, Dante Fowler, Junior,

2147
01:50:19,720 --> 01:50:22,639
Speaker 2: Kyle van Noyd. These guys are all thirty or above.

2148
01:50:23,720 --> 01:50:29,280
Speaker 2: So again it's does that player one fit from a

2149
01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:31,479
Speaker 2: talent standpoint? And two does he fit the scheme that

2150
01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:33,760
Speaker 2: Al Golden wants to run. That's why it's for me,

2151
01:50:33,840 --> 01:50:36,439
Speaker 2: it's always talking about the does the player and their

2152
01:50:36,479 --> 01:50:38,759
Speaker 2: skill set match the scheme that you're trying to run.

2153
01:50:39,160 --> 01:50:43,800
Speaker 2: It's more than just is that player good. There's a

2154
01:50:43,800 --> 01:50:45,600
Speaker 2: lot of good players in the NFL, but some of

2155
01:50:45,600 --> 01:50:49,240
Speaker 2: those players just don't match what the team should or

2156
01:50:49,280 --> 01:50:54,559
Speaker 2: wants to be running. Switch gears. Very briefly, here what

2157
01:50:54,680 --> 01:50:57,840
Speaker 2: happened last night at Fifth Third Arena. I know for

2158
01:50:57,920 --> 01:51:01,519
Speaker 2: many it is a aaning less non conference win, and

2159
01:51:01,760 --> 01:51:04,760
Speaker 2: for the Bearcats they've just not had enough of those

2160
01:51:04,800 --> 01:51:07,320
Speaker 2: types of wins. I get it. I get that there

2161
01:51:07,400 --> 01:51:12,320
Speaker 2: is frustration, and to be honest, rightfully, so this team

2162
01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:16,439
Speaker 2: has vastly underperformed in their non conference and I even

2163
01:51:16,479 --> 01:51:19,080
Speaker 2: think this like when I look at the Bearcats Austin,

2164
01:51:19,680 --> 01:51:22,599
Speaker 2: I think of, Okay, you lose to at the time,

2165
01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:28,200
Speaker 2: number six Louisville. Even if you would have lost to Georgia, Clemson,

2166
01:51:28,240 --> 01:51:30,840
Speaker 2: and I'll even thow Xavier in on the road, had

2167
01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:33,519
Speaker 2: you not had the Eastern Michigan loss, you could just say, well,

2168
01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:36,120
Speaker 2: this team just wasn't good on the road. Clemson and

2169
01:51:36,160 --> 01:51:39,519
Speaker 2: Georgia are good basketball teams. Those are tournament teams. Louisville's

2170
01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:43,920
Speaker 2: a tournament team. You could have talked people into it.

2171
01:51:44,000 --> 01:51:49,320
Speaker 2: The Eastern Michigan loss is so so brutal on so

2172
01:51:49,439 --> 01:51:51,479
Speaker 2: many levels because you look back and it's not like

2173
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:54,639
Speaker 2: Eastern Michigan should be a contender in the MAC. Eastern

2174
01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:56,840
Speaker 2: Michigan at this point of the season is now six

2175
01:51:56,920 --> 01:52:03,040
Speaker 2: and seven. They have lost three in a row to Purdue,

2176
01:52:03,080 --> 01:52:06,519
Speaker 2: Fort Wayne, Akron, and Wright State. They're just not a

2177
01:52:06,520 --> 01:52:11,639
Speaker 2: good basketball team, and they came into Fifth thirty Arena

2178
01:52:11,680 --> 01:52:13,360
Speaker 2: and beat UC. I just don't know how you get

2179
01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:16,679
Speaker 2: over that loss going forward if you're the Cincinnati Bearcats.

2180
01:52:16,720 --> 01:52:19,559
Speaker 2: But last night, I'll give it to him, was a

2181
01:52:19,560 --> 01:52:23,519
Speaker 2: positive step forward and it came with how the game started.

2182
01:52:25,320 --> 01:52:29,679
Speaker 2: Kerk Crisa Seawana Bive were not in the starting lineup

2183
01:52:29,760 --> 01:52:35,080
Speaker 2: last night for Wes Miller. Boba Miller, Mustapha Chom, Gisel James,

2184
01:52:35,439 --> 01:52:39,920
Speaker 2: Dade Thomas, and Sincere Harris were your starters last night

2185
01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:42,800
Speaker 2: for the Cincinnati Bearcats. Now kerk Cresa came off the

2186
01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:45,360
Speaker 2: bench and made five out of eight threes for fifteen points.

2187
01:52:45,920 --> 01:52:50,960
Speaker 2: That's good production. They got last night eleven points and

2188
01:52:51,040 --> 01:52:54,519
Speaker 2: twenty one rebounds to go along with seven assists from

2189
01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:57,639
Speaker 2: Boba Miller. Don't care who you're playing against, that's filling

2190
01:52:57,680 --> 01:53:03,040
Speaker 2: it up eleven one in seven. Mustapha Chom posted eighteen points,

2191
01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:06,479
Speaker 2: Gisel James added sixteen. Day Day had eight, Sincere Harris

2192
01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:08,800
Speaker 2: had seven. It added up to eighty nine for the

2193
01:53:08,800 --> 01:53:11,760
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bearcats. And they held a Lipscomb team to just

2194
01:53:11,840 --> 01:53:14,640
Speaker 2: sixty two points. And I know that these types of

2195
01:53:14,680 --> 01:53:16,640
Speaker 2: things don't matter much, but if you go back to

2196
01:53:16,800 --> 01:53:19,960
Speaker 2: just a week ago, Lipscomb went to Cameron Indoor Stadium,

2197
01:53:20,280 --> 01:53:23,200
Speaker 2: they trailed by three at halftime forty eight forty five,

2198
01:53:23,240 --> 01:53:25,160
Speaker 2: and they actually led that game in the second half

2199
01:53:25,160 --> 01:53:27,919
Speaker 2: before things got away late. So it is a Lipscomb

2200
01:53:27,920 --> 01:53:30,439
Speaker 2: team that can score a lot of points. It's a

2201
01:53:30,479 --> 01:53:33,759
Speaker 2: Listom team that hasn't win over Marshall earlier this season.

2202
01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:36,880
Speaker 2: But the Bearcats took care of business last night in

2203
01:53:36,920 --> 01:53:40,640
Speaker 2: their final tune up before Big Twelve play gets underway

2204
01:53:41,080 --> 01:53:43,760
Speaker 2: on Saturday. Before we talk about Saturday, here's what Wes

2205
01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:45,400
Speaker 2: Miller had to say after yesterday's win.

2206
01:53:47,439 --> 01:53:50,280
Speaker 9: Well, as I told the guys in the locker room,

2207
01:53:50,560 --> 01:53:54,439
Speaker 9: you know, statistically, I think there's one statistic that you

2208
01:53:54,479 --> 01:53:56,679
Speaker 9: can be selfish about and it's still good for the team,

2209
01:53:56,720 --> 01:54:00,799
Speaker 9: and that's rebounding. And so twenty one rebounds Bob Miller.

2210
01:54:01,840 --> 01:54:06,519
Speaker 9: That really impresses me. And what I'd like is for

2211
01:54:06,640 --> 01:54:08,559
Speaker 9: other guys to compete with them a little bit. I

2212
01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:11,280
Speaker 9: said at halftime he had thirteen of them, and I

2213
01:54:11,400 --> 01:54:13,439
Speaker 9: told the guys, I said, hell, guys, thirteen is pretty

2214
01:54:13,520 --> 01:54:16,080
Speaker 9: damn good. But you guys can go go compete with

2215
01:54:16,120 --> 01:54:17,640
Speaker 9: them a little bit. We'd like some other guys to

2216
01:54:17,680 --> 01:54:22,519
Speaker 9: rebound too. But twenty one rebounds that impressed me. I

2217
01:54:22,600 --> 01:54:25,320
Speaker 9: care a lot about rebounding, and he gets twenty one

2218
01:54:25,320 --> 01:54:28,960
Speaker 9: of them. I don't care who you're playing in Division

2219
01:54:28,960 --> 01:54:29,599
Speaker 9: one basketball.

2220
01:54:29,640 --> 01:54:30,280
Speaker 3: That's impressive.

2221
01:54:31,400 --> 01:54:32,360
Speaker 5: He had eleven threes.

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01:54:32,360 --> 01:54:34,880
Speaker 17: It's the I think the fourth or fifth game you've

2223
01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:36,800
Speaker 17: been over ten the ball movement?

2224
01:54:36,880 --> 01:54:38,400
Speaker 2: Was it better than any other game?

2225
01:54:39,400 --> 01:54:40,680
Speaker 3: Was it better you thought it?

2226
01:54:40,760 --> 01:54:43,160
Speaker 5: Was it better tonight than you know?

2227
01:54:44,960 --> 01:54:49,080
Speaker 9: I really, I'll go watch the tape. Twenty one assist

2228
01:54:49,160 --> 01:54:53,480
Speaker 9: I think that's good. We've had high assist numbers. I

2229
01:54:53,520 --> 01:54:56,080
Speaker 9: thought we were stagnant at times offensively in the first

2230
01:54:56,120 --> 01:54:59,400
Speaker 9: half on possessions. I'm not saying every possession, and I

2231
01:54:59,440 --> 01:55:03,280
Speaker 9: thought we moved get better in the second half. I

2232
01:55:03,320 --> 01:55:05,839
Speaker 9: still think we have to have better body movement. Sometimes

2233
01:55:05,920 --> 01:55:08,760
Speaker 9: we can just stall and we don't do that in practice,

2234
01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:10,720
Speaker 9: but when the lights come on sometimes we do it.

2235
01:55:10,760 --> 01:55:13,760
Speaker 9: But I think there were some possessions that you can

2236
01:55:13,800 --> 01:55:15,480
Speaker 9: show that are really good, and then I think there's

2237
01:55:15,480 --> 01:55:16,520
Speaker 9: some that need improvement.

2238
01:55:17,160 --> 01:55:20,320
Speaker 10: Lineup changes tonight, did you feel like the secret seeing

2239
01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:22,800
Speaker 10: ability to get the lineups you wanted out there and

2240
01:55:23,160 --> 01:55:24,800
Speaker 10: putting guys in the right position was a little bit

2241
01:55:24,800 --> 01:55:30,200
Speaker 10: easier with getting Jizzle and since it's here been bucking

2242
01:55:30,280 --> 01:55:30,600
Speaker 10: lot them.

2243
01:55:31,360 --> 01:55:31,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2244
01:55:31,760 --> 01:55:35,440
Speaker 9: I think Jizzle just allows you to do some different

2245
01:55:35,480 --> 01:55:41,520
Speaker 9: things lineup wise, that different combinations because he's got size

2246
01:55:41,800 --> 01:55:45,960
Speaker 9: and like physicality, so he can defend multiple positions. So

2247
01:55:46,400 --> 01:55:49,880
Speaker 9: some combinations that we tried early that maybe just weren't

2248
01:55:49,920 --> 01:55:53,080
Speaker 9: working for whatever reason. Like some of those combinations work

2249
01:55:53,080 --> 01:55:54,760
Speaker 9: a little better on his on the floor because he

2250
01:55:54,840 --> 01:55:57,600
Speaker 9: just gives you more. It's like Baba, Like Baba makes

2251
01:55:57,640 --> 01:55:59,960
Speaker 9: every lineup work a little better because if his versatile,

2252
01:56:02,040 --> 01:56:05,000
Speaker 9: Gizzle has some of that effect as well. But I mean,

2253
01:56:05,160 --> 01:56:06,600
Speaker 9: they asked me on the radio, so I'll say the

2254
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:08,880
Speaker 9: same thing to you. Guys said what kind of went

2255
01:56:08,920 --> 01:56:11,320
Speaker 9: into the change of the starting lineup? And sometimes things

2256
01:56:11,360 --> 01:56:14,760
Speaker 9: are complicated and sometimes they're simple, and this one was simple.

2257
01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:17,640
Speaker 9: We had a twenty eight point deficit late in the

2258
01:56:17,640 --> 01:56:21,800
Speaker 9: first half, and that group erased for the next twenty

2259
01:56:21,800 --> 01:56:23,720
Speaker 9: four minutes with the help of some of their teammates.

2260
01:56:23,760 --> 01:56:27,360
Speaker 9: But that group was the core group that erased a

2261
01:56:27,400 --> 01:56:29,440
Speaker 9: twenty eight deficit to one and gave us a.

2262
01:56:29,480 --> 01:56:30,240
Speaker 3: Chance to win the game.

2263
01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:33,320
Speaker 9: To me, we're just going to reward that kind of edge,

2264
01:56:33,480 --> 01:56:36,520
Speaker 9: that kind of competitive spirit, and we got to play

2265
01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:39,520
Speaker 9: like that for forty minutes. So that's why we started

2266
01:56:39,520 --> 01:56:43,280
Speaker 9: that group. But certainly, is Gizzle starting to incorporate himself

2267
01:56:43,320 --> 01:56:46,040
Speaker 9: back into the team from a playing standpoint, it's going

2268
01:56:46,120 --> 01:56:47,840
Speaker 9: to change some lineup stuff.

2269
01:56:48,200 --> 01:56:50,080
Speaker 2: All right, so that I wanted to stop it there

2270
01:56:50,080 --> 01:56:52,600
Speaker 2: because that's the answer and why the lineup changed. It's

2271
01:56:52,680 --> 01:56:56,800
Speaker 2: very simply put. That lineup played harder against Clemson. That

2272
01:56:56,840 --> 01:56:58,840
Speaker 2: lineup got them back in the game. That lineup should

2273
01:56:58,840 --> 01:57:01,720
Speaker 2: be rewarded, and I agree with that. Kirk Crisa was

2274
01:57:01,760 --> 01:57:05,840
Speaker 2: not great. Shawnabiv has been very disappointing. If I was

2275
01:57:05,840 --> 01:57:08,000
Speaker 2: there last night, I watched the body language. The body

2276
01:57:08,040 --> 01:57:12,320
Speaker 2: language was alarming from Shawnabiv, who last night just finished

2277
01:57:12,360 --> 01:57:15,280
Speaker 2: with two points, two free throws very late in that game.

2278
01:57:15,920 --> 01:57:20,640
Speaker 2: It's Houston on Saturday. If you want to ever change

2279
01:57:20,680 --> 01:57:22,360
Speaker 2: the narrative, if you're Wes Miller, it's a game you

2280
01:57:22,400 --> 01:57:24,880
Speaker 2: got to win. You haven't beat Kelvin Samson since you've

2281
01:57:24,880 --> 01:57:27,760
Speaker 2: been here. It's a top ten Houston team. It's a

2282
01:57:27,760 --> 01:57:30,160
Speaker 2: team that could go right back to the national title game.

2283
01:57:30,520 --> 01:57:32,920
Speaker 2: They come into your building. You've had a terrible non

2284
01:57:32,960 --> 01:57:35,520
Speaker 2: conference slate. If you want to wipe the slate clean,

2285
01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:37,839
Speaker 2: if you want to change the perception on this team,

2286
01:57:38,200 --> 01:57:40,080
Speaker 2: you don't just compete on Saturday. You go find a

2287
01:57:40,080 --> 01:57:43,000
Speaker 2: way to upset Houston. I know that's a tall task,

2288
01:57:43,040 --> 01:57:45,680
Speaker 2: but that's what it is. The non conference has been

2289
01:57:45,720 --> 01:57:48,160
Speaker 2: so bad. If you want to be taken out all seriously,

2290
01:57:48,440 --> 01:57:50,760
Speaker 2: if you want to build any momentum and confidence here

2291
01:57:50,800 --> 01:57:52,360
Speaker 2: in the city, you got to find a way to

2292
01:57:52,360 --> 01:57:54,920
Speaker 2: beat Houston on Saturday. That's as simple as it is.

2293
01:57:55,480 --> 01:57:58,080
Speaker 2: We'll take a break, we'll come back. We'll try to

2294
01:57:58,080 --> 01:58:00,600
Speaker 2: grab one more phone call before we get to Mulagger

2295
01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:11,600
Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Welcome back. Since

2296
01:58:11,640 --> 01:58:15,320
Speaker 2: he three to sixty ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station,

2297
01:58:15,480 --> 01:58:17,440
Speaker 2: Mulager will join us for quick hits in just a

2298
01:58:17,440 --> 01:58:20,160
Speaker 2: few moments. We do have time for one more phone

2299
01:58:20,160 --> 01:58:23,040
Speaker 2: call today. Let's go to Dayton and talk to Scott.

2300
01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:23,720
Speaker 2: What's up Scott?

2301
01:58:24,920 --> 01:58:30,640
Speaker 27: Hey, guys, So, I've heard a lot of handwringing about

2302
01:58:31,560 --> 01:58:38,520
Speaker 27: the team and the did Covin and you just read

2303
01:58:38,560 --> 01:58:41,720
Speaker 27: off a draft class that appeared to be pretty good, right,

2304
01:58:43,840 --> 01:58:50,240
Speaker 27: and this past draft class I think also is pretty good.

2305
01:58:51,120 --> 01:58:54,360
Speaker 12: So why do we joke? Why do we laugh? Why

2306
01:58:54,360 --> 01:58:56,600
Speaker 12: do we consider comedy?

2307
01:58:56,680 --> 01:59:00,160
Speaker 27: When Zach Taylor says we hit on all six of

2308
01:59:00,200 --> 01:59:01,280
Speaker 27: our picks this year.

2309
01:59:02,440 --> 01:59:04,760
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's too early to say anything about

2310
01:59:04,760 --> 01:59:06,720
Speaker 2: Shamar Stewart. He's got one sack on the year. He's

2311
01:59:06,720 --> 01:59:08,760
Speaker 2: been heard for much of the year. I don't think

2312
01:59:08,800 --> 01:59:11,400
Speaker 2: the play of Demetrius Knight or Barrett Carter has been

2313
01:59:11,880 --> 01:59:17,600
Speaker 2: at anywhere near NFL competitive level at the linebacker position. Yeah,

2314
01:59:17,600 --> 01:59:18,160
Speaker 2: what's the question.

2315
01:59:18,600 --> 01:59:22,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly why you laugh. Is because they're rookies.

2316
01:59:22,160 --> 01:59:23,080
Speaker 3: It's way too early to.

2317
01:59:23,040 --> 01:59:26,760
Speaker 12: Tell, well is her in the starting lineup?

2318
01:59:27,280 --> 01:59:27,520
Speaker 15: You know?

2319
01:59:27,760 --> 01:59:32,640
Speaker 27: I think once you're in the starting lineup that.

2320
01:59:32,800 --> 01:59:35,400
Speaker 3: Starting or performing. Because they haven't performed well.

2321
01:59:35,320 --> 01:59:38,920
Speaker 12: Enough, well, okay, and there was a.

2322
01:59:38,880 --> 01:59:42,360
Speaker 2: Point where they were greater dead last in linebackers in

2323
01:59:42,400 --> 01:59:43,520
Speaker 2: the National Football League.

2324
01:59:43,520 --> 01:59:45,160
Speaker 3: That matters, I know.

2325
01:59:46,520 --> 01:59:52,080
Speaker 27: And we're willing to just throw them away because they

2326
01:59:52,320 --> 01:59:53,720
Speaker 27: didn't perform their first year.

2327
01:59:53,960 --> 01:59:55,760
Speaker 2: I don't think it's throwing away. I think it's an

2328
01:59:55,840 --> 01:59:59,520
Speaker 2: understanding that there is an opportunity in a an urgency

2329
01:59:59,560 --> 02:00:01,800
Speaker 2: that you have to win now and you can't just

2330
02:00:01,840 --> 02:00:04,560
Speaker 2: slowly pull guys along. You've got to compete for a championship,

2331
02:00:04,560 --> 02:00:05,880
Speaker 2: and I don't think you can with those guys.

2332
02:00:05,920 --> 02:00:06,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2333
02:00:06,160 --> 02:00:09,280
Speaker 3: My thought process is there hasn't been enough development from

2334
02:00:09,320 --> 02:00:13,160
Speaker 3: Game one to Game seventeen that makes you feel like, Okay,

2335
02:00:13,200 --> 02:00:15,800
Speaker 3: we feel comfortable with these guys moving forward, so you

2336
02:00:15,840 --> 02:00:17,680
Speaker 3: may have to address that position in the office.

2337
02:00:17,720 --> 02:00:19,320
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone is saying pull the plug on

2338
02:00:19,360 --> 02:00:21,120
Speaker 2: Shamar Stewart. I think people are saying, we need to

2339
02:00:21,120 --> 02:00:24,800
Speaker 2: see more. We've seen a season of Barret Carter, Demetrius Night.

2340
02:00:24,840 --> 02:00:25,640
Speaker 12: I get all of that.

2341
02:00:27,920 --> 02:00:32,800
Speaker 27: So perhaps they missed on Carter, maybe he isn't with it,

2342
02:00:32,960 --> 02:00:35,520
Speaker 27: maybe they do cut him in the offseason or whatever.

2343
02:00:36,280 --> 02:00:38,760
Speaker 27: But the rest of the class has been pretty solid.

2344
02:00:40,800 --> 02:00:44,000
Speaker 3: I mean, Stuart's barely played. He's played seven games. Night

2345
02:00:44,320 --> 02:00:47,440
Speaker 3: I think is not that great. Fair Child. It feels

2346
02:00:47,480 --> 02:00:50,080
Speaker 3: like is a big time hit. Rivers ended up getting

2347
02:00:50,080 --> 02:00:52,600
Speaker 3: benched because he was so bad, and TODs Brooks really

2348
02:00:52,600 --> 02:00:56,800
Speaker 3: hasn't gotten any opportunities. So are they as bad as

2349
02:00:56,880 --> 02:01:00,680
Speaker 3: last year's class. No, probably not altogether at this point.

2350
02:01:00,720 --> 02:01:05,160
Speaker 3: But I wouldn't I wouldn't be like, this is six

2351
02:01:05,240 --> 02:01:06,400
Speaker 3: hits by any stretch.

2352
02:01:07,600 --> 02:01:10,520
Speaker 12: Yeah, well, okay, fair enough.

2353
02:01:10,840 --> 02:01:12,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Scott, I appreciate the phone call. It's it's just

2354
02:01:13,080 --> 02:01:18,000
Speaker 2: different now, like it's it's not a developmental team. You

2355
02:01:18,040 --> 02:01:20,080
Speaker 2: have to win now, Yeah, and you've got to get

2356
02:01:20,120 --> 02:01:21,080
Speaker 2: contributors to do so.

2357
02:01:21,440 --> 02:01:24,800
Speaker 3: And while I still think it's way too early to

2358
02:01:24,880 --> 02:01:29,280
Speaker 3: make you know, solidify your opinion on this class. The

2359
02:01:29,560 --> 02:01:33,200
Speaker 3: issue has always been the twenty three or the twenty two,

2360
02:01:33,320 --> 02:01:36,520
Speaker 3: twenty three and twenty four classes. It looks now like

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Speaker 3: Murphy is in Turner and those guys, as you mentioned earlier. Okay,

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Speaker 3: that's finally maybe those guys have finally turned a corner

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Speaker 3: last year's class. Jermaine Burton's cut, Chris Jenkins has done nothing,

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Speaker 3: McKinley Jackson requested a trade, Eric Hall has been hurt,

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Speaker 3: Josh Newton can't get on the field, Dana McLaughlin's not here,

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Speaker 3: Cedric Johnson, Okay, maybe Dejon Anthony can't get on the field.

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Speaker 3: Matt Lee's been hurt. Amarius mims is I mean, if

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Speaker 3: you're going one eight, that's not very good, right.

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Speaker 2: In a a in a scenario where you've got to

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Speaker 2: hit on picks, Yeah, you can't miss anymore. We'll take

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Speaker 2: a break, Mowager to close out this edition of Cinty

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Speaker 2: three sixty and welcome us into The Mowagger Show. Happens

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Speaker 2: next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station w c KIT.

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Speaker 1: Now, it's time for a quick hits on Tony Pikes Cincy.

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Speaker 4: Was looking for MO.

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02:02:29,240 --> 02:02:31,720
Speaker 2: I don't think we have MO yet. Maybe we'll get

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Speaker 2: him by the end of quick Hits, maybe not. He

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Speaker 2: is getting himself set up right now at Oakley Greens.

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Speaker 2: Will he be broadcasting from this afternoon?

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Speaker 3: I don't want to, you know, totally destroy the vibe here.

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Speaker 3: But we didn't talk about this. We talked about a

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Speaker 3: little bit the Greg Biffle thing last week. Yeah, did

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Speaker 3: you see the terrible news about Denny Hamlin, not his family.

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Speaker 3: So apparently Denny Hamlin's parents' house caught on fire and

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Speaker 3: his dad was killed. Oh my, in the house fire

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Speaker 3: over the weekend, and I believe it's in North Carolina,

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Speaker 3: and so his it's according to TMZ, so taken with

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Speaker 3: a grain of salt. But TMZ said that Denny Hamlin's

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Speaker 3: dad passed away and at least one other person was injured.

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Speaker 3: I assume that would be his mom. Yeah, I see

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Speaker 3: it on This is a lot of different outlets right

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Speaker 3: now week for NASCAR fans and obviously for Denny Hamlin.

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Speaker 3: They're in the middle of that suit right now, twenty

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Speaker 3: three eround racing against NASCAR and all that. So wild.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it said that at the time Dennis Hamlin, his

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Speaker 2: dad and Mary Lou Hamlin, his mom, both suffered catastrophic

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Speaker 2: injuries while trying to escape, and his father died at

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Speaker 2: the Caramont Regional Medical Center.

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Speaker 3: Crazy. That is unfortunate.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 2: That is very very sad news around the NASCAR world

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Speaker 2: and Denny Hamlin.

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Speaker 3: Also starting to get more details according to TMZ of

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02:03:55,600 --> 02:04:01,880
Speaker 3: the Stefan Diggs allegations. TMZ says that Fawn Diggs former chef,

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02:04:02,120 --> 02:04:06,000
Speaker 3: claims that he slapped and choked her over a salary dispute.

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Speaker 3: So it was felony, strangulation and assault charges that were

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Speaker 3: brought against Stefan Diggs earlier. Today, TMZ reports that it

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02:04:16,840 --> 02:04:20,800
Speaker 3: was his chef over a salary dispute that led all

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Speaker 3: of this unbelievable stuff.

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Speaker 11: Man.

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Speaker 3: Then, as we mentioned earlier, Trayvon Diggs, his brother, was

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Speaker 3: waived by the Dallas Cowboys and put on waivers after

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Speaker 3: an injury riddled season. Did you see how he got

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Speaker 3: a concussion? No, he was installing a mount for a television,

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Speaker 3: a massive television so big that the mount came from

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Speaker 3: the ceiling and the pole fell on his head.

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable. It's a lot going on, Speaking of a lot,

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Speaker 2: going on. The Cincinnati Bearcats have departed from Memphis. Uh oh,

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02:04:56,760 --> 02:04:59,680
Speaker 2: they've departed with one less player on the roster.

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Speaker 3: Pryor has departed from the bear.

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Speaker 2: Evin Pryor, which is weird because I know he's been

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02:05:05,560 --> 02:05:11,080
Speaker 2: practicing leading up to the Bowl game. Evan Pryor announced

2423
02:05:11,440 --> 02:05:16,360
Speaker 2: earlier today that he is entering the transfer portal. In

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02:05:16,360 --> 02:05:19,480
Speaker 2: the last two years, Evan Pryor has totaled over twelve

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02:05:19,640 --> 02:05:23,919
Speaker 2: hundred total yards and eleven touchdowns for the Cincinnati Bearcats.

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Speaker 2: They are already without Tyie Walker. Evan Pryor, to my knowledge,

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Speaker 2: Austin was viewed as one of those foundational pieces that

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Speaker 2: they were hoping to build around for next year, this year,

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Speaker 2: and last year.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 2: He split time last year with Corey Kiner, split time

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Speaker 2: this year with Tyie Walker, missed a couple games due

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02:05:40,280 --> 02:05:44,040
Speaker 2: on ankle injury. In twenty twenty four, he avered seven

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02:05:44,040 --> 02:05:47,800
Speaker 2: and a half yards per carry twenty twenty five, six

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02:05:47,840 --> 02:05:51,360
Speaker 2: point nine yards per carry. Every time this guy touched

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Speaker 2: the ball he gained nearly seven yards.

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Speaker 3: Pretty good.

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Speaker 2: That is a monumental loss, not only going into the

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02:05:59,480 --> 02:06:02,080
Speaker 2: Liberty Bowl, but going into next year as well for

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02:06:02,120 --> 02:06:07,520
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bearcats already without Brendan Sowsby, already without major

2441
02:06:07,560 --> 02:06:10,520
Speaker 2: contributors on the defensive side of the ball, going up

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02:06:11,320 --> 02:06:15,920
Speaker 2: against last time, I checked a team in the Naval

2443
02:06:15,960 --> 02:06:20,600
Speaker 2: Academy that rushes the ball for two hundred and eighty

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02:06:20,680 --> 02:06:24,360
Speaker 2: nine yards per game. That is number one in all

2445
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Speaker 2: of college football? How fast? What do you want to

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02:06:28,480 --> 02:06:33,680
Speaker 2: set the over under on from a time standpoint for

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Speaker 2: that game on Friday? U See runs it for one

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Speaker 2: hundred and seventy nine yards per game and the Midshipman

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02:06:39,360 --> 02:06:41,200
Speaker 2: run it for two hundred and eighty nine yards per game.

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Speaker 3: What time is kickoff?

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Speaker 2: Four thirty?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 2: How long is that one lasting?

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Speaker 3: Based off? I'm sure they got to get the commercials in.

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Speaker 3: What's interesting is the bowl game, so it'll probably be

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Speaker 3: done around eight forty five. What's interesting is the Bearcats

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02:06:57,160 --> 02:06:59,600
Speaker 3: run the ball on average for five point nine yards

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Speaker 3: per caking Navy five point eight. So there are gonna

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Speaker 3: be a lot of touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: Probably a lot of five six seven yard games and

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Speaker 2: chewing up some clock.

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Speaker 3: Five point nine yards per carry, that's a that's a touchdown. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: if you just hand it off every time, that's true.

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Speaker 3: You better even getting the third downs, I mean three

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Speaker 3: yards every play is a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: If that's the case, shout out to Coastal Carolina. They're

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Speaker 2: up early on Louisiana Tech and the Radiance Technology's Independence

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Speaker 2: Bowl as well.

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Speaker 3: From what I've been told, I have this game on.

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Speaker 3: I haven't been paying that close attention, but apparently it's

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Speaker 3: the worst game of football ever played.

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Speaker 2: Really.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. A lot of penalties, a lot of mistakes, a

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Speaker 3: lot of dudes that don't normally play that are playing game.

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Speaker 3: Sean McVay said that even though they've clinched their playoff spot,

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Speaker 3: the starters are playing for the Rams next week.

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Speaker 2: Coastal Carolina has eight penalties already in the and that

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Speaker 2: game just started the second quarter. Yeah, exactly. Louisiana Tech

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Speaker 2: has three. Should we talk to Moegar for two minutes?

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Speaker 2: Do you want to? We can.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it. Let's talk to Mo.

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Speaker 4: Hi, Mo fellas, how we doing, mo?

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm well. No. No Evan Prior for the bowl game.

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02:08:06,920 --> 02:08:10,040
Speaker 2: No Evin Pror. I just bought my OVN Prior Jursey.

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Speaker 2: I thought Evan Prior was going to be a piece

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02:08:12,240 --> 02:08:16,160
Speaker 2: to build around next year. Why, I don't know you

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02:08:16,360 --> 02:08:17,840
Speaker 2: ran it for like six yards of carry.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 28: I love Evan Prior. Why would anybody think that any

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Speaker 28: player is a player to build around next year?

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02:08:23,200 --> 02:08:25,760
Speaker 2: It's also true I thought maybe at least for Friday.

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02:08:26,560 --> 02:08:27,600
Speaker 4: Oh, that'd be nice.

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02:08:27,760 --> 02:08:28,000
Speaker 15: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Mo, very briefly, what do you have coming up today?

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Speaker 2: In the Moager Show at Oakley Greens.

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Speaker 28: Joe Burrow isn't the only person who should be buying

2498
02:08:38,360 --> 02:08:40,320
Speaker 28: gifts for the Bengals offensive line.

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Speaker 4: I want to talk about JJ Bleda today.

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Speaker 3: Wow, what do you say?

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Speaker 28: Let's go back and look at opening days starting lineups

2502
02:08:49,080 --> 02:08:50,360
Speaker 28: each of the last three years.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 28: Where Paul Danner Junior is going to be here, Sean

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Speaker 28: sayat Stats and Scheme newsletter. We're going to talk sports,

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Speaker 28: in law and so much more here at Oakley Greens.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, between three and.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's great to talk to you today. I have

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Speaker 2: a great show.

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02:09:02,960 --> 02:09:05,280
Speaker 3: Hear your voice. MO see in Memphis.

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Speaker 2: There he is, that's Moger. We are done, Austin, Tony,

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Speaker 2: We're out. We're in. Very briefly, tomorrow's are our names

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Speaker 2: for an hour. Enjoy the Mowigers. I've got nothing left.

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Speaker 2: On ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station