1 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: Well, he sneaks around the world, ride. 2 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: In the world. No, Nanny ain't here. Well, I might 3 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 2: be here, might be in town. I think he is. 4 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 3: Actually he told me he's going to be in town, 5 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 3: which is shocking enough, given how crappy the weather happens 6 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 3: to be. 7 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: But he's not in studio. 8 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 3: Louis joins us via the Connecticot Water Systems hotline. You 9 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 3: usually have such an exquisite sense of timing that when 10 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 3: the weather gets as miserable as it now piers, you 11 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 3: are billions and billions of miles away. How did it 12 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 3: so happen that you got caught up in this this time? 13 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,639 Speaker 4: Well, I had to come home back in see why 14 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 4: family Christmas? 15 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 3: That makes sense. That's probably a good reason. That's probably 16 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 3: a very good yes. And you know it's a very 17 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 3: I mean, your guy who grew up with I think 18 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 3: there were no palm trees in the Sioux Were there 19 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 3: were there? I mean, I'm assuming it was rather chilly 20 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 3: and snowy, and you know all the things that many 21 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 3: of us who grew up, you know, associated with the 22 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 3: Christmas period, you know, all that winter stuff. 23 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 4: We had a lot of pines though a lot of 24 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 4: pine trees up there. 25 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: Well, that's true. That's a good point, very very good point. 26 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 2: All right, So tell me why. 27 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 3: I talked to you Saturday, the day after the trade 28 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 3: and about a few different things, but I definitely sensed 29 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,559 Speaker 3: a little extra bounce in the Luigi step. So why 30 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 3: from the moment you found out were you so excited 31 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 3: about this move? 32 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 4: Well, because this is one of the bigger pieces of 33 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 4: getting of the puzzle to get to the Standy Cup, 34 00:01:55,600 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 4: and I mean the Standy Cup finals, you needed a 35 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 4: real driver back in defense. That when you get a 36 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 4: guy like they got in Hughes, who in many estimation 37 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 4: is the second best defense in the league. Remember toyous 38 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 4: is all of a sudden, the Wild are in a 39 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 4: position only Colorado with McKinnon and mccarr would be ranked 40 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 4: ahead of Caprisov and Hughes to work as a tandem. 41 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 4: I mean, even though you got McDavid, he hasn't got 42 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 4: a defenseman in the quality of those two to work with. 43 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 4: And you go on the league coucher off the same thing. 44 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 4: He doesn't have an offensive defenseman. Edmonds a great defensive defenseman, 45 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 4: but he's nowhere close to them offensively the other two. 46 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 4: So when you look at it, and all of a sudden, 47 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 4: the Wild had that type of defenseman. And getting that 48 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 4: type of defenseman with the corps they got essentially arguably 49 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 4: they got the best defense core when they're healthy that 50 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 4: there isn't a national hockey league. So you got a 51 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 4: team that's got great goldending November December. And if you 52 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 4: can continue like that, the great defense, now you're in 53 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 4: a position to make some noise, and especially if somewhere 54 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 4: along the line. And I don't know how he could 55 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 4: pull it off because I don't see what assets he 56 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 4: could trade to get a top six forward. But the 57 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 4: emergence of eure Off as he's coming along Helpinghi play, 58 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 4: I just think what people don't realize. I love Beim 59 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 4: and I think he's going to be a tremendous defenseman. 60 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,679 Speaker 4: But Beam is not what Hughes is now. He might 61 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 4: never be, and even if he was, it won't be 62 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 4: farewell and the Wilds window where you have your your 63 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 4: key core guys would be closing. If you wait three years, 64 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,839 Speaker 4: see till Biam gets to that point. If he does 65 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 4: get to that point, now, all of a sudden you 66 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 4: got Caprisos three years old. As the girl is probably gone, 67 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 4: Spurgeon's probably gone. There's a lot of difference in the 68 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 4: core of your hockey club than there is today. The 69 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 4: corps is ready to emerge right now. And when you 70 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 4: get the guy like Hughes who by the way, when 71 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 4: you get the defense problems like the Wild have had now. 72 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 4: I mean physically, he can play thirty minutes a game 73 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 4: like falling off a log. He's so he's so easy 74 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 4: to handle time because of the way he skates and 75 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 4: moves and handles the pucket. And it has made a 76 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 4: difference even in and brought favors ability to move the 77 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 4: puck out of the zone. Brock was good, really good, 78 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 4: but now it can be even much better working with 79 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 4: this guy. So I'm I'm just excited about what that 80 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 4: lineup passed to offer. I don't don't if they can 81 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 4: keep doing what they're doing when they're so short for 82 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 4: six guys now, but I'm just happy where they are. 83 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,559 Speaker 2: Is Sydney crossby next. 84 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 4: I mean I say that half that that would be next. 85 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 4: But how what are you going to pay for a 86 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 4: Sydney Cross. He is thirty nine years old. 87 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 2: Well you tell me. 88 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 4: I'm telling you you don't have enough to pay the dude, 89 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 4: He's not going to be be sitting there like Santa Claus. 90 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 4: I think Kyle Duba's sure till rollo that. 91 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 3: Here's the Russo quote on I think either a podcast 92 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 3: or something called sports net. 93 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: I'm not sure what. 94 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 3: I think a Crosby trade will be a storyline after 95 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 3: the Olympics, right before the trade deadline, and I have 96 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 3: no doubt in my mind a billy will get in 97 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 3: on that. The question of mine is what do you 98 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 3: give up? What if they ask for Valstett? Are you 99 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 3: giving up Vaalstet for a thirty eight year old center? 100 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 3: So what could the wild package to possibly get him? 101 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 4: I just finished saying, you don't see it? Yeah, And 102 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 4: I don't say that they're going to give a Valstead. 103 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 2: Either, because you can't give him. 104 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 4: Up and you're seeing gustuson better be good all the 105 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 4: week through. Even if you got Crosby and all of 106 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 4: a sudden Gusts doesn't play well a lot of good. 107 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 4: You can have five Crosby. It's not going to help 108 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 4: all the nets. 109 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the unfortunate part about it. 110 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 3: A couple of people had texted earlier wondering whether you 111 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 3: being kind of the hockey his historian. Is there anybody 112 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 3: in NHL lore that he the Quinn reminds you of that? 113 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 3: You say, okay, it's stylistically or the way he moves 114 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 3: or the way he controls the park. 115 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 2: Does anybody come to mind? 116 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 4: Yes, Stylistically, especially in his own donus. 117 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 2: Bobby Or, And that's how I praise there. 118 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 4: Bobby Or is a left hand shot. And Bobby Or 119 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 4: was tremendous in escaping checks. And one night I'm walking 120 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 4: out of the rink and we got beat by Boston, 121 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 4: and you know, we had a ramp going down into 122 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 4: met Center there and walking up until he was an 123 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 4: He won't you Or? I says, I'd like to hit Or, 124 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 4: but you can't anyone with ansulo competti, you can't. You know, 125 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 4: you go to hit him, he's not there anymore, and 126 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 4: hues like that. That's what he reminds me of that. 127 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 4: Now he doesn't remind me in Or. It's ability Or 128 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 4: could take the puck to the lengthy ey, beating people 129 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 4: over and over again. Or was better at beating one 130 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 4: one on one stick handle. But that's other than that. 131 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 4: He there's no similar left hand shots. The way they 132 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 4: handle the puck, the way they they are so tough 133 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 4: to hit, the way they they can in tight spaces 134 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 4: escape checks. Uh. And and the head, the smart head 135 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 4: they got they they both see things ahead of time. 136 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 4: And and uh. I mean when you're talking about or 137 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 4: you're talking about you know, in many people's mind number 138 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 4: one or two the greatest, absolutely, but now you're talking 139 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 4: about you, you're talking about a defenseman that's one or 140 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 4: two best that are playing today. So you're you're you're 141 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 4: getting in that kind of hair. 142 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 3: Louis is brought to you by, as always our good 143 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 3: friends at camps. A texture wants to know whether you 144 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 3: keep in your mind favor and hues together. 145 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, definitely. In fact, when they first we're making 146 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 4: a trade, one of my friends called is, who's Ben 147 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 4: playing with? I said, I hope they're playing with his favor. 148 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 4: You already got a shut down pair like Spurgeon and 149 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 4: Brodeine played together last year. They were number one in 150 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 4: the National Hockey League for not giving up goals five 151 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 4: and five. So you don't want to break up that pair, 152 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 4: and then you're going to have the other two in 153 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 4: the top four. So it's just like an automatic to 154 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 4: start with. On top of that, favor is really you know, 155 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 4: he's getting better and better all the time. Defensively, he's 156 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 4: he's been really a tremendous defenseman since they made the 157 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 4: trade to get him here, and it's experience he's getting better. 158 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 4: And then you get the physical two of Middleton and 159 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 4: Gooshan that are both been really good players for a while. 160 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 4: So that's why many people I've heard since then, even 161 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 4: some national people talking about the wild even Lunk was 162 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 4: the same. Henry Blink was that while probably got the 163 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 4: best defensive core in the league. 164 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 2: What is realistic? 165 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 3: I mean, what realistically do you think could you add 166 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 3: at center? Obviously, I think it's unlikely it's going to 167 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 3: be a move anywhere near as splashy as this one. 168 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 3: But sometimes you can make subtle moves that are just 169 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 3: as effective. So does anybody come to mind, I got 170 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 3: to believe you think he's going to try something at center. 171 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 4: I think I really think he's going to have to 172 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 4: wait till till the deadline because I don't see anything 173 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 4: coming up before that where he can afford it. And 174 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 4: you get to the deadline, all of a sudden, some 175 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 4: teams are going to be sitting with a player that 176 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 4: maybe is not going to sign. No matter where he goes, 177 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 4: everybody's going to worry about. And then you might be 178 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 4: able to give a future one or two draft choices 179 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 4: for a guy that you probably gonna lose those draft choices, 180 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 4: but you're content to do it. They add that to 181 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 4: your lineup. So it's going to be who pops up 182 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 4: on which team that you know. People talk about the Islanders. 183 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 4: They might even been in the playoffs. I mean, since 184 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 4: they got the defense shape for they've been terrific. But 185 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 4: barzel are talking about he doesn't have enough to pay 186 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 4: for Barzil right now. I don't think without hurting the 187 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 4: core the team he's got, without breaking that up, because 188 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 4: he's given up the best draft choices, the young players 189 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 4: that he's got outside of the ones that he's using. 190 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 4: So it's uh, it's going to be Sony at the 191 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 4: deadline if he gets somebody, I think that he can 192 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 4: afford to waste an unseen waste in a word, that 193 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 4: they might not be a waste if the guy come 194 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 4: in is really effective, but at least take a chance 195 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 4: on something there. 196 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 3: We had Bill on Sunday morning, and one of the 197 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 3: things he and I talked about was you and I 198 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 3: have talked about this a lot, you know, the taking 199 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 3: the big swing, And I think the quote he gave 200 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 3: me was something effective, Well, you can't go through your 201 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 3: life always bunting, and implied in that, I think implicit 202 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 3: in that is when you take the big swing, it 203 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 3: may not always be the right one. It might come 204 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 3: back and haunt you. But I know it's something you've 205 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 3: thought about a lot, given the GM role that you 206 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 3: had for as long as you did, and even as 207 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 3: a team president when you're in a different role, but 208 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 3: you're still paying attention to what's happening. I'm wondering if 209 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 3: you could speak to just the psychology of that, what 210 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 3: separate Why is it some gms, even at the risk 211 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 3: of maybe failing, are willing to take the big swing, 212 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 3: and others not so much. 213 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 4: Well, because they're not afraid of taking the big swing. 214 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 4: Some people when they look at the deal, they look 215 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 4: at the wrong side of the deal. In other words, 216 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 4: they're looking at, oh, what if it doesn't work, and 217 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 4: what if we're you know, if you start thinking about 218 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 4: making the trade, oh what if we're not going to 219 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 4: be as good as we were, You're never going to 220 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 4: make a trade. You have to be focused on making 221 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 4: the trade, thinking, if I do this, we're a much 222 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 4: better hockey team. It doesn't matter if the other guy 223 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 4: goes off and scores one hundred goals. If he's getting 224 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 4: five for you and he scores a hundred for somebody else, 225 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 4: that doesn't mean he's going to get a hundred for you. 226 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 4: But people that can't make the trade think, oh, he 227 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 4: would have got a hundred for me, and they're and 228 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 4: plus they're worried about the pressure, the media, the press, 229 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 4: what people think. If you're going to do your job 230 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 4: as a manager, you have to do a job to 231 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 4: do the best job. You're doing what you think is doing, 232 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 4: not what people are going to think of you or 233 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 4: think of it. You have to say I'm making this 234 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 4: decision because it's the best thing for the organization. And 235 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 4: if you're worried about protecting your job, it's the same 236 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 4: thing as an athlete going out on the court, out 237 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 4: in the ice, out on the field. Before they're walking out, 238 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 4: the thing you oh, I hope I don't grew up this. 239 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 4: I hope I don't make this mistake. When you worry 240 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 4: about making a mistake, you're going to make a mistake. 241 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 4: And that's why Jordan was so great. Remembering his last game, 242 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 4: he missed six shots in a row and he gets 243 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 4: the winning basket of the clocks going down. He wasn't 244 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 4: afraid to take that seventh shot. And the great ones players, 245 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 4: the great general managers, they don't fear the mistake. They 246 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 4: fear missing out. I'm telling you the worst thing I 247 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 4: could ever think of is That's why during the draft 248 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 4: I got no sleep the draft. I used to try 249 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 4: and find out every deal was coming down. If I 250 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 4: couldn't make the deal, I try and kill the deal 251 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 4: and sour of the guy I'm thinking about if you 252 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 4: make the deal, as you're nuts, you're going to miss this. 253 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 4: You know you instigate you. You got to be in 254 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 4: the fight, and that's where that's where the adrenaline comes from. 255 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 4: That's where you really understand and appreciate the job you got. 256 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 4: You have to be able and like I told you, 257 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 4: and I told people many times, how do you do that? 258 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 4: They said, And they're fund of job where they be 259 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 4: what I mean, without any kind of pressure. You got 260 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 4: to look at the pressures just being part of the job. 261 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 4: But do the job you think you're going to do 262 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 4: to get the best result you want, all right. 263 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 3: So long after the adrenaline rush wears off, there are 264 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 3: the practicalities of hoping to assign him to an extension 265 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 3: and a texture much earlier. It's send in a note, 266 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 3: Send in a note for you wondering what you think 267 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 3: Quinn Hughes's next contract will look like and whether the 268 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 3: Wild can indeed build a true contender around two massive 269 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 3: deals that would be involved. 270 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 2: Here. 271 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 4: I can tell you this, if I was a betting man, 272 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 4: a heavy betting man, I go back tomorrow, he's going 273 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 4: to sign. There's no doubt my mind, he'll send at 274 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 4: least three years. And excuse me, there's no there's no 275 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 4: situation where they can't afford it. People aren't realizing you're 276 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 4: thinking about the cap appreciated as much as it's going to. 277 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 4: So you are in a position because you're going to 278 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 4: have one more year at the seven point five. So 279 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 4: now you're essentially looking this year, that next year, in 280 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 4: the following year, the third year down, the line of 281 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 4: CAP's going to be around one hundred and five million 282 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 4: from eighty four. So you not only got all that 283 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 4: extra cap space coming, you've already got your other key 284 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 4: players being Boldie in favor Spurgeon Brotein. They're all in 285 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 4: their contract and so August is it. So there's not 286 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 4: going to be a cap problem. And I think that 287 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 4: he will make fourteen to sixteen million. 288 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 2: Can you but that can all work? 289 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 4: Yeah? Sure, because you only got one really high paid player, Yeah, 290 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 4: in today's cap world, and that's Capriso. 291 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: What makes you that confident that he'll he'll stand here. 292 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 4: Because I've been to New Jersey, I've seen its situation there. 293 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 4: He's got two brothers. One's a great player, Jack, the 294 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 4: other one is a good player, and they're not in 295 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 4: a position to a Stanley Cup. And I wouldn't want 296 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 4: to be living in that town and worrying about If 297 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 4: you've been around a rink in New Jersey and you've 298 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 4: been around that area, it's not a great place to be. 299 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 4: On top of that, if you wait two years online, 300 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 4: Jack's going to be a free agent. There's a better 301 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 4: chance of Jack coming here than Quinn going there, in 302 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 4: my mind, because you can make things work. And when 303 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 4: you're and when you're a hockey player or baseball player, 304 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 4: football player, you play to win. If you're really a 305 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 4: winning player, which this kid is, He's playing to win 306 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 4: the Stanley Cup, and he's going to look at the 307 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 4: team and the Cory's got here, and he's going to 308 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 4: look at what New Jersey's got, and he's going to say, 309 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 4: I'm standing right where I am because he could come 310 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 4: to where I am. I don't have to go to 311 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 4: where he is because he's going to be a pre 312 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 4: agent another year. Anyway, after that. 313 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 3: Interesting question just came in asking with if you could 314 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 3: expand on some of the differences between being a general 315 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 3: manager and a team president. 316 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 4: Well as a general manager in the way structured when 317 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 4: I was both once the general manager then president, it 318 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 4: is different today today. The president I look and I said, 319 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 4: why do they call him president and general manager? Seems 320 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 4: to me like Rutherford was more involved in the general 321 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 4: manager and the deal a while yeah, and the general 322 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 4: managers today seemed to be having to check with the 323 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 4: president whenever they're making a deal or get the okay 324 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 4: from the president. When I was president, when I was 325 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 4: general manager, I never the president probably found out when 326 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,479 Speaker 4: you phone the press when I made a deal. I 327 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 4: never told him a thing. I you know, when I 328 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 4: feel ironed hot, I strike and that's I can't wait 329 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 4: till somebody on the other side by change his mind. 330 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 4: That's the difference what happened in this day and age. 331 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 4: But now I think that the presidents get involved with 332 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 4: the deals. When I was general manager, I never once 333 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 4: consulted with Jack Ferrar. He was the president and on 334 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 4: what deals he's going to make, who he's looking at. 335 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 4: I say, I only stay When I agreed to stay 336 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 4: with the north Starts because I retired being general manager, 337 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 4: I was going to leave and go in the business 338 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 4: i'm in now because I wanted to get out. And 339 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 4: Gordon talked to me in the standards a president, and 340 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 4: I said, on these conditions, you don't talk to me 341 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 4: about wins losses. I don't get involved. And you know, 342 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 4: the general manager's going to have the freedom to run 343 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 4: the way he wants and I don't want to be involved. 344 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 4: And I said, I will oversee the budget and everything 345 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 4: that comes through the operation as the president does. But 346 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 4: the decision makers in each of their positions have to 347 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 4: make those decisions. I'm not making those decisions. And he 348 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 4: understood because he never got involved with the decision with me. 349 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 4: When I was general manager, I never had to check 350 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 4: with Gordon Gunn to trade somebody, even Bobby Smith, he 351 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 4: he was the owner of the team. He said, you 352 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 4: run the way you think you should run it, and 353 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 4: if I don't like it, I'll get so many different 354 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 4: But I'm going to let you run it the way 355 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 4: you want to run it. And I think that's what's 356 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 4: changed today and many of the sport. You think Jerry 357 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 4: Jones now a general manager. But before you think these 358 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 4: guys will get so involved, I mean that you know, 359 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 4: guys got to check three times over before they make 360 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 4: a move, Which is fine. If I'm the order and 361 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 4: I have some money that that might be the way 362 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 4: I want it. That's good. But it's changed the way 363 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 4: it used to be, is all I'm saying. There's a 364 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 4: big difference in how decision making is made today from 365 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,479 Speaker 4: how it used to be made. I know, Sammy Pollock, 366 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 4: Bill Tory, they never checked with anybody when they made 367 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,959 Speaker 4: a deal, Because I know I've made deals like with 368 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 4: Tory right in the phone. We didn't have to check 369 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 4: with each other's owners UF like that. I mean, that's 370 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:02,239 Speaker 4: just the way it was. 371 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 3: Did you play trade poker the same way that garn 372 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 3: did in this case, which was starting with his best 373 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 3: offer that the way he explained it to me, was 374 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 3: not going to play around. 375 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 2: I'm not going to. 376 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 3: Play that game, but back and forth. I know what 377 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 3: it's going to take to get the deal done. I'm 378 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 3: not and I want to get their attention. So I'm 379 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 3: gonna I'm gonna put it all out there from the beginning, 380 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 3: including including William from the beginning. Did that surprise you 381 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,479 Speaker 3: at all or is that the way you played it 382 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 3: or what do you think? 383 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 4: No? I did that a lot that I mean, as 384 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 4: you know. I mean, I don't know over under trade, probably, 385 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 4: but I I was the same way. I I know 386 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 4: what I want, and tell me what you want and 387 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 4: never agreeable. That's it. I'm not going up down on sideways. 388 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 4: And so I just I was definitely that way. I 389 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 4: mean even when I I was the first guy to 390 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 4: ever go to arbitration in that so I leave that 391 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 4: I went twice, and I went because when I tried 392 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 4: to make the deals with the teams, I told them 393 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 4: what I wanted and I told them what I give them. 394 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 4: They said no, I signed the player because and then 395 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 4: that's when pre agency first came. And then if you 396 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 4: don't agree, you have to go to arbitration and when 397 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 4: I went to arbitration, I got what I offered. That's 398 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 4: why I felt, you know, there's no use going up, 399 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 4: up down unless you're going to add more players in 400 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 4: the deal or you're thinking, okay, I can do that 401 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 4: if you give me this. I mean, sure, there's always 402 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 4: things you work around the deal if you want, but 403 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 4: in this case, Vancouver wasn't going to throw anybody else 404 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 4: in the deal. And Bill knew that. You know, that's 405 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 4: what I want, and that's why I can afford to 406 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 4: giving this as a hell of a package. And you 407 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 4: told me what you wanted, these three things for the 408 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 4: draft choice to the years use three things, and. 409 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 3: That was it last item on the deal. And to me, 410 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 3: what it represents beyond adding such a high end play 411 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,959 Speaker 3: and I think this was important to you when you 412 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 3: are running teams. I look at this deal on another 413 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 3: level and that has to do And I know this 414 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 3: isn't why you make the deal, but I think it's 415 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 3: a benefit of a deal like this that the casual 416 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 3: Minnesota sports fan who classifies himself for herself as somebody 417 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 3: who might like hockey okay, but maybe he doesn't love 418 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 3: it or might like one sport more than the other, 419 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 3: but pays attention to all of them because they're sports fans. 420 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 3: This to me is the kind of move that gets 421 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 3: the attention of everybody, even a casual hockey fan that says, WHOA, 422 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 3: I mean, we don't know where's where it's going to 423 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 3: end up. We don't know where it's going to go. 424 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 3: It's like, that's that's big time. I'm definitely going to 425 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 3: be paying more attention to that entire operation from this 426 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 3: point forward. 427 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 2: What do you think. 428 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 4: I think you're exactly right. It's happened with the Timberwolves 429 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 4: with Coolbert, right, look at that trade. You know, I'm 430 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 4: not following basketball all the time. When he made that 431 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 4: trade right after, I'm watching to see the parts that 432 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 4: went and what he got. Now you know how it 433 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 4: affected Timberlves and you could see that about baseball. You 434 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 4: could see that any big trade and it's going to 435 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 4: get the attention of sports fans. And that doesn't mean 436 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 4: just a football fans. I mean to all sports fans, 437 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 4: and some of them are going to react differently and 438 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,239 Speaker 4: or have more interest than they had before because of 439 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 4: the enormity of the deal. And it's no different than 440 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 4: all four sports teams are fighting for sales right in 441 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 4: a while. You know, even though they were hanging in 442 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 4: there and winning November, the backing at the building wasn't 443 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 4: like it was because they had a very slow start. 444 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 4: So you got to build it back. You've got to 445 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 4: get that attention back, and you got to get them 446 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 4: back in the building quick, because every game that goes by, 447 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 4: you can't sell that ticket again that they didn't come to, 448 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 4: or empty seat that you have, So how are you 449 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 4: going to make up the difference of money. You've got 450 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 4: to get the attention quick. And that got the attention 451 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 4: quick of not only their own fans, but other fans 452 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 4: that were casual fans and now probably maybe are going 453 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 4: to go to three games now going to go five 454 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 4: or six or seven. It all makes a difference, and 455 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 4: it certainly makes a difference in the media, in the 456 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 4: press that you get and in the talk talk radio. 457 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,719 Speaker 4: You know, with TV shows, everybody talking about this. It 458 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 4: doesn't matter what you do today, you turn on anything 459 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 4: that's got something about hockey, you're still talking about the 460 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 4: huge trade, no question. 461 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 3: Yeah that And obviously if the team continues to performs 462 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 3: as well as they have, especially recently, it'll it'll keep 463 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 3: going it'll build on itself. 464 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 2: In fact, right, that's the way it works. 465 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, in fact, build built by making this huge 466 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 4: trade put more oppressure on himself because now everybody's not 467 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 4: even thinking about the first round. All of a sudden, 468 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 4: their opponents have disappeared. They're talking about them in the 469 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 4: Standy Cup final. I mean these guys, I've just seen 470 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 4: you know, someone Twitter and someone Instagram and stuff like that. 471 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 4: They're they're talking about, well, well, should be in the finals. Now. 472 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 4: You don't just pass three three rows of competition here 473 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 4: in the Stanley Cup. You know, who knows what's going 474 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 4: to happen before you get there. But that's that's the pressure. 475 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 4: It's going to rebound back in a while now because 476 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 4: the expectations have been raised a whi uh. 477 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 3: We appreciate the time as always, and we wish you 478 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 3: and yours are very merry Christmas. 479 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 4: To my friend. See when you get back. 480 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to be in and out a lot 481 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 3: the next couple of weeks. So you got to you know, 482 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 3: you got to use that. 483 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: They can't. 484 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 2: They don't let you take that vacation time into the 485 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 2: next year. 486 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 4: No, I got to get any. 487 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 5: You don't your whole life is a vacation. Louis, what 488 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 5: are you talking about? 489 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 4: Them? Says yeah, I'm retired to do what I want 490 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 4: to do when I do it. 491 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 3: There you go that that defines it. Thanks as always, 492 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 3: my friend. We appreciate you. We'll talk soon. 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I have not been following out I don't 507 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 3: believe that individual has been named publicly, but several law 508 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 3: enforcement outlets I think are reporting exactly that, and then 509 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 3: there's some discussion about the possibility of at least the 510 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 3: exploration of a link between that story, those shootings, and 511 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 3: the murder of a is it, I believe an MIT professor, 512 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 3: Although I haven't heard very many details about the linkage 513 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 3: and whether that has even yet been confirmed. We'll keep 514 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 3: an eye on those stories as they develop. What it 515 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,479 Speaker 3: does seem to be concerned is that a private plane 516 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 3: crash has left NASCAR driver Greg Biffle and his family killed. 517 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 3: They were aboard I think they were among seven people 518 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 3: aboard the business Assessina business aircraft and the plane crashed 519 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 3: while landing at an airport in North Carolina. I believe 520 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 3: it crashed at Statesville Regional Airport, which is located about 521 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 3: forty miles north of Marlot, North Carolina, about ten twenty 522 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 3: Eastern time this morning. And there is video of at 523 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 3: least partial video of said crash. It looks as if 524 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 3: the plane kind of explodes into a ball of fire 525 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 3: fairly quickly. It crashed off the end of the runway. 526 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 3: Too early for information on a cause, et cetera. Biffle 527 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 3: was issued a private pilot certification in March. FAA record 528 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 3: show in the aftermath of last year's deadly hurricane Helene, 529 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 3: Biffle flew aid by helicopter to stranded victims throughout North 530 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 3: Carolina's Appellation Mountains. He apparently often was involved in such 531 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:56,959 Speaker 3: rescue missions. He was a NASCAR named Biffel among its 532 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 3: seventy five greatest drivers in I believe the year twenty three. 533 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 3: But I also think he is he is retired as well, 534 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 3: So a horrific story there. 535 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: As well. 536 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 3: I asked much earlier in the program. There are a 537 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 3: couple of people who said, hey. 538 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: Are you a dan Adan? 539 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 3: Just tune in the show kind of wondering. We be 540 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 3: mentioning the latest developments in the Land of ten thousand frauds, 541 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 3: and as it turns out, by coincidence, we have. We 542 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 3: discussed it during the first two segments of the program, 543 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 3: and during that stretch I rather impatiently asked, for give 544 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 3: me a Democrat who's been willing, regardless of the political implications, 545 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 3: to say, what are we doing? 546 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 2: How does this happen on our watch? 547 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 3: Even if you don't want to attach direct blame to 548 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 3: any single Democrat, it's about the system that is in place. 549 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 3: And we learned a term, like I said, I was 550 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 3: not familiar with. I'd never heard the term that was introduced, 551 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 3: fraud dust, fraud tourists. That was from the US Assistant Attorney, 552 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 3: a guy who's been on this program before, Joe Thompson. 553 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 3: That's some of these latest charges. He's basically saying that 554 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 3: we are people are coming now to our state purely 555 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 3: to exploit and to fraud. It's programs that we have 556 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 3: become a magnet for fraud. We have developed what he 557 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 3: described as a as as a fraud tourism industry. 558 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 2: So fraud tourists are coming. 559 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 5: Should we be doing commercials like in our old days 560 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 5: when we had the capabilities, we will do some type 561 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 5: of commercial like do you want money that's not yours? 562 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 5: Are welcome the state of Minnesota. Come on in no 563 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 5: sales sacks and no ramifications. 564 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 3: Well, somebody reminded me of this particular these comments, and 565 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 3: I think we quoted them at the time. A Democrat 566 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 3: named Anne Rest state senator, and I think it was 567 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 3: in June of twenty twenty four that she had come forward, 568 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 3: and I think the quote her her money quote was 569 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 3: the buck is still running down the streets in everybody's 570 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 3: passing the buck nobody's being held accountable, and that's the 571 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 3: buck has not stopped with anybody exactly. And that's part 572 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 3: to me for the people who say, well, I mean, 573 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,959 Speaker 3: how can how directly can you blame the governor? 574 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 2: It's not so much just that it's would you not agree? 575 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 3: It strains credulity that more people haven't lost their positions, 576 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 3: that there's been so little accountability at the levels where 577 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 3: you'd say, well, even if you don't want to directly 578 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 3: blame the governor, somebody, you know, Chris Carter Cereberdy's gonna 579 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 3: have a fall guy. But I would say not a 580 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 3: fall guy in the sense of somebody who didn't deserve it, 581 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 3: but somebody who might. And that's I also think part 582 00:31:53,480 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 3: of the problem here politically. I'll say again that you know, Walls, 583 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 3: I think Walls should have the decency to announce he's out. 584 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 3: I'm done, I really do. I think he won't, but 585 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 3: that's I think what he should do. And I think 586 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 3: privately there's probably a lot of Democrats who would applaud. 587 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 2: It, they too, won't say it. 588 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 3: But in addition to that, you know, if the Republicans 589 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 3: don't understand the opportunity that they have here, then shame 590 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 3: on them, because I don't think there's any question that 591 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 3: Walls has never been more vulnerable, and by the way, 592 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 3: so much it might be for the wrong reasons, just 593 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 3: the old how we're tired of him the same voice. 594 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 2: You know, It's like how he changed coaches. We're tired 595 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 2: of the same voice. 596 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 3: We want somebody else he's had as a let's move on, 597 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 3: let's try somebody else. But in addition, there's this, you know, 598 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 3: another press conference today involving more medicare fraud from again 599 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 3: Joe Thompson laying it out and basically saying, what was 600 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 3: the number? This is eighteen billion, and he's estimating without 601 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 3: proving it. Yet nine billion or close to nine billion 602 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 3: of that might be fraudulent as well. They just say 603 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,719 Speaker 3: the quote I didn't use earlier, see if I can 604 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 3: find it. It got my I should have mentioned it 605 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 3: the first time around. Every day we look under a 606 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 3: rock and find a fifty million dollar fraud scheme. Crazy, 607 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's just insane. But I'm sitting here, 608 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 3: I'm thinking this out, and I'm going to the Republicans. 609 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 3: You can't be this stupid to waste this opportunity. 610 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 2: Can you you can't be well, guess what. 611 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 3: They're on the track to being that stupid because largely 612 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,479 Speaker 3: most of people with name recognition, I just don't think 613 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 3: have much of a chance. And you know the guy 614 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 3: and maybe maybe he's bored with it, maybe he doesn't. 615 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 2: Even want to mess with it. 616 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 5: The guy who I think think could flat out win 617 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 5: this election on the Republican side and beat walls unseen. 618 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 2: Him is Tipaw. 619 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 3: I think he's now what Tipaw has said, In fact, 620 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 3: I think he said this in a intera with my 621 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 3: former partner mister Hartman, that well, I've been approached, but 622 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 3: the problem is it doesn't work because I I don't 623 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 3: fit in the Maga Republican Party even in this state. 624 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 2: It's just it's just it's not a good fit. And 625 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 2: he's not wrong. 626 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 3: But then I go back to the Republican leadership and 627 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 3: I go, really, whatever conviction you think you're holding on to, 628 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 3: it's going to end in another defeat if you're not careful. 629 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,479 Speaker 3: And to me, that's what Tepaw represents right a little 630 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 3: bit less yeah, core righty, but. 631 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 2: Certainly right of center. 632 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 3: No one would ever, I think, confused Tepaw with like 633 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 3: the mayor of Minneapolis or the mayor of Saint Paul 634 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 3: for that matter, right, But I don't know, Oh if 635 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 3: they have the kahones to say we're starting our own revolution, 636 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 3: We're just not. 637 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 2: We want to win, and we got a guy who's 638 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 2: vulnerable as hell. It may not matter. 639 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 3: Let's stay on schedule, actually a little bit behind. We 640 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 3: got Top five at five coming up. I do want 641 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 3: to remind you the inbox will be open at five 642 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 3: point thirty and there's plenty of room according to Guardzie, 643 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 3: so please email him with your latest letters. JG at 644 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 3: kfa N dot com. We'll talk KG as I promised 645 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 3: a minute ago. Next, I'm trying to get excited about 646 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 3: the news that Lori Fisher breathlessly offered to both of us, 647 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,280 Speaker 3: both of us, I should say, as we were preparing 648 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 3: what you know, the Friday night said show should look like. 649 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,439 Speaker 3: And that was the news that broke was late last 650 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 3: night or early this morning this morning, that Kevin Garnett 651 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,439 Speaker 3: is going to be reunited with the franchise that he 652 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 3: once loved and then hated because of Glenn Taylor. And 653 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,879 Speaker 3: I think it was pretty much assumed it was going 654 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,720 Speaker 3: to happen so I'm not saying it's not a worthy story. 655 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 3: I'm not saying that it should not be celebrated. But 656 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 3: part of it for me was, unless I missed some 657 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 3: of the details, it's so open ended. It's not like, Okay, 658 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 3: on such and such a date, KG is going to 659 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 3: be back at the arena being saluted. Ye, whatever, you know. 660 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 3: And and because it the stories I read were well, 661 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 3: sometime within the next two years, he's going to get 662 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 3: his number retired. 663 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 2: Yes, is jersey retired? 664 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 3: And I'm going I'm not sure that's the way you 665 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 3: really hit this with a with you know, with pizaz 666 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 3: with voltage to get everybody's attention on it, because I 667 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 3: think we all kind of presumed that it was inevitable 668 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 3: that was going to happen. But that's I don't think 669 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 3: we it's all very vague right now, is it not. 670 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 5: Yes, we don't. He's basically an ambassador. Yes, he's basically 671 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 5: I think that's what they've called him. And yeah, the 672 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 5: news is that it's now official that this is what 673 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,720 Speaker 5: he's going to be around more. They're on good terms. 674 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 5: The jersey's going up. You're right, it certainly did not 675 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 5: need to lead enough set as I think we made 676 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 5: it clear. 677 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 3: And this will probably sound a little self serving and 678 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 3: wouldn't be the first time on this show for me. 679 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:36,919 Speaker 3: But if they wanted to maximize the announcement, what they. 680 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:37,399 Speaker 5: Do is. 681 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 3: At a prescribed time, you tell me, hold on a second, 682 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 3: the hot line's ringing, and the hotline is a pre 683 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 3: arranged phone call from KG. 684 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,359 Speaker 2: San what's that Minnesota? 685 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 1: The whole bit. 686 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 5: Announcing it that way on our show live in the 687 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 5: five o'clock hour, that would have some impact. 688 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 2: Just have something where as opposed to and you know, 689 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 2: a meteor sham's bombing, Yeah, sham. 690 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 3: I'm basically saying, because this is like a trade, he's 691 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 3: going to be back working within the organization. 692 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 5: That's how you maximize it, right, you know, along those 693 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,359 Speaker 5: lines will annoy you even more. What's that he's been 694 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 5: in town the last couple of days? What I know 695 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,800 Speaker 5: he was in town yesterday. My sources say, so he 696 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 5: could have. 697 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 2: Come right He might be in tom right now. I 698 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 2: don't know. Does he have a key card? I don't 699 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 2: think he does. We could get him one. 700 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 5: We probably would get I bet you we would get 701 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 5: him key card. We could bring him up the freight elevator. Yeah, 702 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 5: it's fine. Again, I guess you you grew up with him. 703 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 5: This is going to be an awesome night. I'll probably 704 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 5: have to take If it's during the week, I'm probably 705 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 5: gonna have to take the show off. 706 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand that, and I'll. 707 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 5: Be crying, most likely wearing an old garnet jersey with 708 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:57,760 Speaker 5: rubber bands around my wrist. 709 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,720 Speaker 2: That's how that's how it's going to go for me. Yeah. 710 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 2: So again, it's I'm not saying it's bad news. It's 711 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 2: good news. 712 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:10,760 Speaker 3: It's welcome news, it's inevitable news, and it's essential news, 713 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 3: right it It makes no sense for this, you know, 714 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 3: a period of of I guess you could say bad blog, 715 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 3: this schism that, you know, for it to go on, 716 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 3: and it wasn't good to go on. Everybody knew it 717 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 3: was the worst kept secret ever that the schism was 718 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 3: because he can't stand Glenn Taylor. I'm not even sure 719 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 3: he's completely fair to Glenn in that regard, but didn't matter. 720 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,359 Speaker 3: I mean, he's KG and and as long as he 721 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 3: was the owner, the schism was going to be intact. 722 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 3: I think we all understood that. Once he lost the 723 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 3: bid to hold on to the team that there was 724 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 3: inevitably a day was going to come where KG was 725 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 3: back in the building and a big part of it. 726 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 3: I just wanted more of a Okay, leave us out 727 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 3: of it, doesn't have to be about us. Pick another show, 728 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 3: have a presser, where are you in? Reintroduce to the 729 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 3: market who adores him, that loves him. 730 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 5: That's what I was looking for. I was looking are 731 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 5: you going to see him soon? Because he's coming back 732 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 5: for select games. That's that was part of the announcement 733 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 5: to start increasing fan engagement. So he'll probably, you know, 734 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 5: take some pictures in the member lounge, the whole deal. 735 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 3: Let me get to a couple quick texts before we 736 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 3: prepare for Top five. Every single person I know talk 737 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 3: to is not Magga Trump. People don't even know what 738 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 3: Magga is. Nobody likes Trump. It's the fact that he 739 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 3: does what people want. Yes, he's a boso most of 740 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 3: the time, but he works hard. It's all about the 741 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:36,399 Speaker 3: four oh one k boomers status. This is from China guy. 742 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 3: I met Royce White at the fair. I told him 743 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 3: we need someone like Polenti to beat Walls. He said, bleep, 744 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,399 Speaker 3: polenty He's no better than Walls. That's from China. Guy, 745 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 3: uh Dan, you're talking about how Republicans squiring an opportunity 746 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 3: as the Dems are vulnerable due to fraud and the 747 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 3: Walls is done. What makes you think it matters who 748 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 3: the Republican's run. All the loony lefties will vote d 749 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 3: down the ballot no matter what. Fraud with money and 750 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 3: fraud of elections. So glad I moved to the free 751 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:03,839 Speaker 3: state of North Dakota. Is North Dakota free? We're not free? 752 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 3: I guess is that the is that the implication. 753 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 2: Probably freer than us. 754 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,919 Speaker 3: Today's Republican party is different ideologically than Polenni's replicant party. Well, yes, 755 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 3: that's that would be stating the obvious. We're well aware 756 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 3: of that. As a Democrat, I was planning on voting 757 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 3: against Wall's next election, but if the Republican candidate is 758 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,839 Speaker 3: Mike Lindell, I will be voting Walls again. 759 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 2: This week. 760 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 3: I'm a Trump Republican Ante pause exactly the right guy, 761 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 3: Minnesota will not go for a Trump Republican. Here's from 762 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 3: Kfen Girl Fraud Blues, Quinn Hughes, snow Shoes, Wolves. 763 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:37,800 Speaker 2: And five. 764 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 3: And lastly, uh, your guy, I think it's more Amsterdam guy, 765 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:44,839 Speaker 3: let me find it. 766 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:46,240 Speaker 2: Where did it go. 767 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 3: There? It is firing. Someone would admit accountability, which Walls 768 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 3: won't do. Instead, he's portraying Somali's his victims, and remarkably 769 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,359 Speaker 3: he'll win again. Republicans will nominate a lunatic and throw 770 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,280 Speaker 3: away a golden opportunity. And that's from a hardcore that's alrighty, 771 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 3: we're Amsterdam guy. Right, there's no that makes no bones 772 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 3: about that. He has that same concern. 773 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 2: So there you have it. A top five will 774 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,400 Speaker 5: Include it will include maybe a little bit more detail 775 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 5: on the KG thing, the Vikings injury report, and the 776 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,959 Speaker 5: Quinnisota Wild are back in action.