1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Ashley Michael. I'd like the correct person who was praising 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: your pronunciation of that you should be pronounced it correct. 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: That actually be pronounced it correct. Lee, long live the adverb. 4 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: Yes, you're right. There was a speak so we heard 5 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 2: the truck driver just then. Yeah, did you see the 6 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: text message? 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: Uh? Oh what now? Now? 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: No, it's just from gouvernor thirty three seventy four. This 9 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: was at nine o'clock last night, Mike lunch in Florence 10 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 2: with the truck driver. There are only about three thousand people, 11 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: does not include the prisoners in Supermax by the way 12 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: in and around Florence, so there are very limited eating 13 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: choices in town. There is no MacDonald's, but there is 14 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 2: a Carls Junior in a subway oOoOO. There is one 15 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: small coffee shop and one grill and bar. There's one steakhouse, 16 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: but it is only open for dinner. It is the 17 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: Colorado State capital for antique shops. I see an entire weekend. 18 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, I was gonna say, it's more than a 19 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: day trip. Yeah, and so. 20 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 2: I'll look for maybe I may have to go to 21 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: Wallsenburg or Pueblo or somewhere, but I'll get us a 22 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: room with three beds, and you know, I'll spring for 23 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 2: the room at the most motel five and a half 24 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: and we'll, you know, we'll make a weekend of it. 25 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 2: What's the worse than a lunch with a listener a 26 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: weekend with a listener, that listener, that listener. We have 27 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: to listen to this bull crap, you know, for like 28 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: twenty four hours. And by the way, we're not driving down. 29 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: There together either. We might meet you down there, but. 30 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: We ain't getting a no truck with you, because one, 31 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: I'd just like to live a little bit longer. And two, 32 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: if you kidnap us, I got news for you. They 33 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: might bail out Dragon, they might pay a ransom for Dragon, 34 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: and nobody's paying squat for me. Yeah, Missus Redbeard can't 35 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: live without me, quite quite literally, She just she just can't, right, 36 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: And Missus Brown is like wen'sday gonna go Wednesday, finally 37 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: gonna croak. And of course the company's not gonna you know, 38 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 2: pay a rant, So I mean, I'm sure they've got 39 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 2: some you know, ransom insurance policy for the for the 40 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: muckety MUCKs in New York, but for us pleeves down here, 41 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: they'll be like and just saved us a little money. Well 42 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: maybe if we had some great ratings, but nobody ever 43 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: tells us so. 44 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: But you got to go to Los Angeles to find 45 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: your ratings. That's what you gotta do. Wish. 46 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 2: By the way, one reason why I'm in a really 47 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: good mood today, A really good mood, well plus Latin, 48 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: it's righty. So we combine the two, oh, Israel and 49 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 2: Hamas and that's let's see, yeah, let's see. 50 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:00,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. 51 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: Both CNN and Fox are talking about it right now. 52 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 2: This is a thought experiment. I'm not saying that Israel 53 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 2: is the loser. This is why Israel can be seen 54 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: as the loser. And I think the overar team reason 55 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: is they started Look October seven, two years ago, when 56 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: Hamas started killing, raping, kidnapping. 57 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: Just absolute it's Israel's nine to eleven twelve, was it 58 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: twelve hundred, whatever the number was. 59 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 2: And Benjamin Netanyahu, in the entire Israeli population, I think 60 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: there was probably ninety nine point nine percent agreement. Hamas 61 00:03:53,520 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 2: must be eliminated. Now, to me, eliminated means that's that 62 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: kind of what you Hamas were trying to do to us. 63 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: You were trying to wipe up, wipe us off the 64 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: face of the earth. Well, we're gonna wipe you off 65 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: the face of the earth. And I think that's legitimate 66 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 2: because you're not dealing with a You're not dealing with 67 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 2: a Yes, they're state sponsored, but Hamas doesn't wear uniforms. 68 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 2: Hamas is a non government actor. They are a non 69 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 2: state terrorist organization, and eliminating them from the face of 70 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 2: the earth is a noble goal, but I'm not certain 71 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: it can be done. Case in Point Al Taida casing 72 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 2: point the Hoothies. While the Hoothis have been predominantly shut down, 73 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 2: they're still able to lob a rocket every once in 74 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: a while. And in fact, I forget, there's some shipping 75 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: company or oil company, maybe it was Shell or somebody 76 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: that's they have actually made a target. They've announced that 77 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: that's our new target. So you wonder why. I mean, 78 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: there are many reasons, but one reason why oil and 79 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 2: gas prices remain where they are is well, because they're 80 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: targeting Shell or whoever it is coming through coming through 81 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: the Gulf. Well, HAMAS is going to retain their governing 82 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 2: position in Gaza, at least for the time being, until 83 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 2: this transition can occur. The agreement only mandates disarmament in principle. 84 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: I couldn't find any clear enforcement mechanism for that. So 85 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 2: the Israelis ought to and write, I think rightly, do 86 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 2: fear that Hamas using the concept of hudnah will regroup 87 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: and potentially plan future attacks. That has happened historically after 88 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: prior prisoner releases. Why would it not happen here? Well, again, 89 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: it's a phased in agreement. So if they truly which 90 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: is why would you understand if they really do decide 91 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: to to implement hudnah and and use this time as 92 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: hudna to regroup, they may not regroup within Gaza, but 93 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 2: they'll regroup elsewhere. 94 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: Now what you think about it? 95 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: In terms of Al Qaeda, can you tell me what 96 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: an al Qaeda terrorist looks like? Stop and think about 97 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 2: it from them? Can you tell me what a Hesbalah 98 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 2: looks like or a Huthi? You really can't. And the 99 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: reason you can't is because they can recruit worldwide. And 100 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: even if you want to say, oh, well, Michael, they're 101 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: of Middle Eastern descent, so they have olive skin, uh, 102 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: you know, and and they have that they have dark hair, 103 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: well that could describe an Italian that could describe you know, 104 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: maybe well maybe not a Hispanic, but someone who has 105 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: you know, some one here of mixed trace that has 106 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 2: you know, really beautiful olive scan and neels, really beautiful 107 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: dark eyes, dark brown eyes. My point being, Hamas can 108 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: regroup anywhere in the world, including in this country if 109 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 2: they wanted to, because it might be more difficult for 110 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: them now to get into the country. But perhaps they're 111 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 2: already here in this country. So let's just move our 112 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 2: base of operations to I don't know, Harris County, Texas, Houston, Texas, 113 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 2: it's a good international airport, or Los Angeles or you know, 114 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: Long Island, flying to Kennedy and we'll just got well, 115 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: because we know that's what al Qaeda has done. We 116 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 2: know that's what the Chinese Communist Party has done, so 117 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: why would Hamas not do the same thing. They'll regroup, 118 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: plan future attacks that has historically happened for the past year, 119 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: fourteen hundred years, and they'll continue to do so. So 120 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: I think the failure to eliminate Humus is the primary 121 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: reason why from an Israeli point of view, you're a loser. 122 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: The second would be these prisoner concessions. Now, I've had 123 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 2: a lot of discussions in tel of even Jerusalem with 124 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 2: Israeli generals about these concessions, and they tell me, yes, 125 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 2: we're willing to do that because remember, a country of 126 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 2: nine million people. 127 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: I forget how many Jews are in the world. 128 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: I apologize, but whatever that diminished number is of the 129 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 2: number of Jews in the world, they will do anything 130 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 2: and everything to preserve the life of Jews. And I 131 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: understand that, and I think it's rational. But these are 132 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 2: significant prisoner concessions. They're releasing thousands of Palestinian prisoners, including 133 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: many of they're considered terrorists, and many that are serving 134 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 2: life sentences. This is almost the duplication of the twenty 135 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: eleven prisoner release that freed Hamas leaders who later orchestrated 136 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 2: these very attacks. Such releases are viewed, I think by 137 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 2: many Israelis as empowering and enabling Hamas rather than weakening. 138 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: Weakening it does it means going to happen tomorrow or 139 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 2: the next day, because again, the concept of Hudna says, oh, 140 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 2: we'll just use this time to rebuild. The third reason 141 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 2: that I would look at this and say, man, not 142 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: really sure about it? Is the partial Israeli military withdrawal. 143 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 2: Now again you go back to the concept of diplomacy. 144 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: It's give and take. While Israel is pulling troops back, 145 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 2: it will remain militarily engaged. But guess what that means. 146 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 2: That means that the Israeli defense forces are exposed to 147 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 2: potential further conflicts. How long do you think it will 148 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 2: be before the New York Times will scream aheadline that 149 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 2: an idea of soldier killed an innocent Gozzen citizen, when 150 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 2: really it was a member of Hamas that decided to 151 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 2: attack an idea of soldier who was on patrol and 152 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 2: just decided to take them out. If you've ever stood 153 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: on the cliff, there's a cliff that is to to 154 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 2: the kind of the west and south of Gaza, and 155 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: you can sit on that cliff. I've got picture of 156 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 2: me with some Israeli kids staring down into Gaza from 157 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: that point. 158 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: And when you look at the strip, you realize, first of. 159 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 2: All you have the tunnels, but beyond that you've got 160 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 2: the gates where you know the Palestinians the Gosins, because 161 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 2: they're not really Palestinians. The Gosins would move in and 162 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 2: out of those gates and go into Israel for work. 163 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: Wants to keep one of these Hamas terrorists from freelancing. 164 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: You know, you get a lone wolf who maybe doesn't 165 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: agree with this agreement, who maybe is really upset about 166 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: this agreement, and so they go out. They you know, 167 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: they as a clean skin, nobody recognizes them as a 168 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 2: Moss terrorist. They leave the gate, they go into Israel 169 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: to you know, go to work somewhere, or to sell 170 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 2: some you know, sell some of their wares or vegetables 171 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 2: or whatever, and they just murder a family. I mean, 172 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: I know it's all hypothetical, but I'm just trying to 173 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 2: be realistic about this. The military withdrawal, I understand, is 174 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 2: a requirement of a MOSS because they don't want the 175 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 2: idea of continuing to just bomb the crap out of 176 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 2: them and continue. I mean, the leadership of Moss has 177 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 2: been decimated. But if you're a true believer, the elimination 178 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: of your general, you're superior. If you're a true believer, 179 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 2: you see that as an opportunity. Oh, the boss has 180 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 2: been eliminated. Maybe now I can be the boss. Maybe 181 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 2: now I can become the leader. They're just like cockroaches, 182 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 2: and they just propagate and propagate and propagate. So this 183 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 2: partial with military withdrawal, I understand why, But from Israeli perspective, 184 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 2: I'm not really sure I buy that. Well maybe from 185 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 2: an American perspective, I don't really buy it either. International 186 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 2: and domestic pressures. Israel's military truthfully, truthfully was exhausted. 187 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: They were. 188 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 2: Their deployments, they were reaching into the reserves, they were recruiting. 189 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 2: I mean, they were kind of like the Russians in 190 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 2: that regard, in that they were so shorthanded that they 191 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 2: were just exhausted and having to find anybody and everybody, 192 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 2: getting reserves, getting dual citizens, anybody they can find to 193 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 2: come and help fight for them. Well, that meant they 194 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 2: were facing also growing international isolation and domestic outcry in 195 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 2: the war. So all of that pressure combined forced Israel 196 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 2: into a diplomatic deal that demanded all these substantial compromises. 197 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:43,479 Speaker 2: So the international pressure, while the coming together of the 198 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 2: Arab nations because again trying to eliminate because they don't 199 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 2: like Hamas anymore than the Israelis do. They see it 200 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 2: as a destabilizing factor, so they're happy to see them 201 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 2: at least sort of being gone. But from an Israeli perspective, 202 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 2: you might think, but they're not really gone. We still 203 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 2: have Hyddna there will. The last point that I would 204 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 2: make about in terms of seeing this as a lose 205 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 2: lose for Israel are the continued humanitarian and the security challenges. 206 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 2: Now Gaza is devastated, but the hamask governance persists. Oh, 207 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 2: they may not be the official air quote here, the 208 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: official governing body as we get into phase two and three, 209 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: but Israel is going to remain vulnerable to asymmetrical warfare tactics, 210 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 2: the lone wolfs, the little tiny squads that will exist 211 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: here and there, the little cells that will exist here 212 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 2: and there. This agreement, best I can tell from what 213 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 2: I've had available to me to read, does not resolve 214 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 2: the fundamental conflict or the security threats. Then there's this 215 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 2: look at it from Hamasa's perspective. Hamasa's leadership has publicly 216 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 2: celebrated the deal, has proof that they were not defeated 217 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 2: and that their resistance has forced Israel into these concessions. 218 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: Now a lot of that is pr bullcrap, but the 219 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: hostages release was framed as a victory secured through resistance 220 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 2: rather than through defeat. So the maintenance of Hamask governments 221 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 2: amidst the Israeli withdrawals kind of reinforces that concept. Now again, 222 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to give you a different perspective of 223 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 2: how you're going to consume the news that you're going 224 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: to hear about what a great deal this is. Am 225 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 2: I just completely trying to destroy this deal and tell 226 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 2: you that, no, it's all bad. No, I'm just telling 227 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 2: you that, just don't believe all of the hype because 228 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 2: the hype even from the Israeli side, And I understand 229 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 2: why they're doing it. Don't forget Benjamin Nett and Yahoo 230 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 2: has his own internal political problems interning his only internal 231 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 2: legal lawfare about corruption. So Benjamin Nett y'all has his 232 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 2: own political considerations too. But you and I are going 233 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: to be fed all of this information about what a 234 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 2: great deal this is for both sides and how it's 235 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 2: this lasting piece. And I just want you to be 236 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 2: cautious as you start to get fed that by the 237 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: cabal with Hamas from their perspective, sees this as a victory, 238 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 2: and you think and you pile on top of that 239 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: the concept of Hadna. Now you can actually begin to 240 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 2: question how good is this deal? And there's some broader 241 00:16:54,960 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 2: implications too. Israel has a true strategic setback. They had 242 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: a strategy of what was called mowing the grass, temporarily 243 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 2: weakening a moss without full eradication. Well, there's limitations to that. 244 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: The war did not end decisively, the war, which has 245 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 2: kind of been our problem. Did the war in Afghanistan indecisively? 246 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 2: Did the war in Iraq indecisively? Did the war in 247 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 2: Vietnam indecisively? 248 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 1: That the Quorean war has not even ended. It's just 249 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: a truce. 250 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 2: That preserves the status quo, and that gives a moss 251 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 2: time to go exercise and engage in huddinging. Michael, when 252 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 2: it comes to ransom in you, we would pay them 253 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 2: to keep you have a great weekend. 254 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: See that's what I knew. That's exactly what I expected. 255 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 2: And missus Brown will even, you know, put in a 256 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 2: couple bucks for them to keep. 257 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: She probably would. She probably would. 258 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 2: So we're talking about the cease agreement, the ceasefire agreement, 259 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 2: the peace agreement. I'm not sure what it really is. 260 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 2: They can call it whatever they want to, and they 261 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 2: can put whatever moniker on that they want to. But 262 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 2: I'm still trying to figure out what is this really? 263 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: It is it? 264 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 2: We know that it's at least partially a cease fire, 265 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: but beyond phase one where the idea says we'll pull 266 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 2: out because their perimeter, we're not going to completely abandon 267 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 2: the gaza, so we're going to pull out, Well, we 268 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 2: will have you. Once we pull out. That starts the 269 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 2: clock for seventy two hours for you to release the hostages, 270 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 2: and at least on the way in this morning, as 271 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 2: I'm diving through all the different stations trying to figure 272 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 2: out what the latest news is, there are some commentators 273 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 2: who are saying, but the seventy two hours, we're not 274 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 2: sure when that starts. So does that mean the hostages 275 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 2: will be released Sunday or Monday? And the only reason 276 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 2: I say say that is because as a follow on 277 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 2: to the discussion about the Israeli hostages, they don't know 278 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 2: anything yet about the bodies, because we still have some 279 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 2: dead hostages, including I think an American or two. So 280 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 2: when or if are those bodies going to be retrieved. 281 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 2: Is Hamas going to retrieve those or are they going 282 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 2: to pull the same kind of crap they pulled last time? 283 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 2: And put bodies in, you know, some of the same 284 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 2: boxes or caskets, or they are going to put like 285 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,479 Speaker 2: somebody else in there. And it's not really who they 286 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 2: say it is. I mean, it's just a lot. And 287 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, I understand diplomatically, this is an 288 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 2: incredibly complicated agreement. That's why it's in phases. But everybody see, 289 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 2: you know, it's I think in this country, and it's 290 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 2: primarily driven by politics and the media that oh, look, 291 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 2: look what we did. We accomplish this, and that's the headline. 292 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 2: Because all you're doing is you're going for the headline, 293 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: You're going for the talking points, and then all the 294 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 2: real dirty work still has to be done. So we're 295 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 2: left with the impression that, oh, peace in the Middle East, 296 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 2: you know, and and as Trump says, peace forever. And 297 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 2: I'm thinking, wait a minute, mister president, I understand why 298 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 2: you say that politically, but we have to be realistic. 299 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 2: Maybe Trump doesn't understand the concept to Hudnah. I can't 300 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 2: imagine that he does not, and I certainly can't imagine 301 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 2: that the diplomats that are working this don't understand understand that, 302 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 2: I mean, Hell's bills, we're dealing with it in terms 303 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 2: of al Qaeda, We're dealing with it in terms of 304 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 2: the Houthis. So the Hoothies start, you know, launching lobbying 305 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 2: rockets in our ships. We blast the crap out of them. 306 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 2: They stop bothering us. And so now we're going to 307 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:30,199 Speaker 2: go after Shell Corporation or whoever it is. They just 308 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 2: regrouped and went after somebody else. So this first phase, cessation, 309 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 2: let's just call it a cessation, is just an initial step. 310 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 2: So while the the agreement, I just don't I can't 311 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 2: call it a peace agreement. So while the agreement offers 312 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 2: an end to active hostilities and it includes the return 313 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 2: of hostages, it argued, I think leaves Israel as the 314 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 2: side that gave up more the militant group Hamas remains intact, 315 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 2: at least for the time being. They remain politically dominant 316 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 2: in Gaza. Now how are you going to and again 317 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 2: now I'm just asking questions if HAMAS remains dominant politically 318 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 2: in Gaza and the Peace Board and this interim administrative body, 319 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 2: let's call it that, an administrative body that's somehow going 320 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: to administer the what we would call governance of Hamas. 321 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 2: For example, You've got to start distributing aid. You have 322 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 2: to start rebuilding infrastructure, rebuilding homes and businesses. You have 323 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 2: to start securing the ability of the Gazen residents to 324 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,479 Speaker 2: restore some sort of normalcy to their lives so that 325 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 2: they can start engaging in again, so they can rebuild 326 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 2: businesses to feed and house themselves. Who's going to administer 327 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 2: all of that? Who's going to pay for. 328 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: All of that? 329 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 2: Stupid question, isn't it is? Where's the United Nations? As 330 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: I stopped to pause for a moment and think through 331 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 2: my numb skull about who is going to pay for this? 332 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 2: When I think about it, I've not seen anything yet 333 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 2: in terms of at least the top lines we've been 334 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 2: given about this agreement about who's going to pay for it? 335 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 2: And I haven't heard squad from the United Nations. Of course, 336 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 2: we haven't heard squad from the United Nations because they 337 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: don't have the skill or the effort, and quite frankly, 338 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 2: there are a bunch of anti Semites anyway, and they 339 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 2: don't want Israel to exist in the first place. How 340 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 2: many times have we vetoed something in the Security Council 341 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 2: because it's been anti submiticart's been anti Israel. So you 342 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: think the UN's going to you think they're going to 343 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 2: take any lop any money off all the income they 344 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: get from US taxpayers to help rebuild this or are 345 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 2: we just going. 346 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: To do it directly? 347 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 2: And why in the world Israel do it? They'd be 348 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 2: like asking us to go in and rebuild. Oh wait 349 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,239 Speaker 2: a minute, be careful what I say here. To go 350 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 2: in and rebuild a country that housed al Qaeda and 351 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 2: hid al Qaeda for a while until Ubl ran off 352 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 2: to Pakistan. We did that, and what do we have 353 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 2: to show for it? You kind of get where. 354 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: I'm going that. 355 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 2: It seems to me that some of these things aren't 356 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 2: exactly as they've been told to us. I'm not sure 357 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 2: that anything that we can do about it, obviously, is 358 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 2: beyond our control. It's all being negotiated by these countries 359 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 2: in the Middle East. But Washington Post this morning, with 360 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 2: Trump pressing for peace, net and Yahood adapts to new 361 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 2: political reality. The Israeli military said the ceasefire went into 362 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 2: effect midday local time. Now Prime Minister Benjamin Netanya, who 363 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 2: is under pressure, including from President Donald Trump, to keep 364 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 2: the peace. If you're Israel. Why are we shifting all 365 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: of the responsibility onto Israel to keep the peace? Isn't 366 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 2: there some responsibility among the other Arab nations who have 367 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 2: more influence over Hamas than we do, that have more 368 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 2: influence over Hamas than obviously the Israelis do, who have 369 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 2: probably no influence over Hamas other than at the point 370 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 2: of a gun. The Prime Minister one his government approved 371 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 2: early Friday for a ceasefied hostage deal based on Trump's 372 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 2: peace plan. The agreement came into effect at midday, according 373 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: to the Israeli military, which said it was pulling back 374 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,479 Speaker 2: along the updated deployment lines in preparation for the ceasefire agreement. 375 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: In return of hostages. Gaz's Hamas run Interior ministry said 376 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 2: its security forces would deploy to areas Israeli troops are 377 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 2: withdrawing from. I rest my case. The Washington Post is 378 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 2: reporting that is the IDF pulls out, the Hamas military 379 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 2: remains fully armed, fully equipped, and is moving into that 380 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 2: what you might refer to as a demilitarized zone, where 381 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 2: the IDF has pulled out to some predetermined line and 382 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 2: Hamas is moving in. 383 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 1: I I don't get it. 384 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 2: Net y'all, who's going to face an entirely different political 385 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 2: landscape than he was facing earlier in the year because 386 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 2: in Trump, I think net y'all, who finds an American 387 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 2: president that now appears far more invested in seeing peace 388 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 2: achieved than he is in securing the security in Israel's security. 389 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: Hudnah. 390 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe not, but I think the Israelis may face 391 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 2: even more international isolation after this agreement than they did 392 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 2: before the agreement. They were going to lose. Lose situation, Michael. 393 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: We can't even make peace with ourselves. 394 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 2: What makes us think that we can broker any kind 395 00:27:51,440 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 2: of peace between Israel and Palestine. I think that that's 396 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 2: a great point. And I think what we need to 397 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 2: recognize is this is primarily a cease fire. I think 398 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: it gives us an opportunity to reimagine and a do 399 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 2: over in terms of how Gaza governs itself. Now, this 400 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 2: peace board, this administrative group that's going to oversee the 401 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 2: rebuilding of Gaza, they can't exist forever. At some point, 402 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 2: just based on historical records, the people in Gaza are 403 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 2: going to want to engage in some sort of self 404 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 2: governance and or we're going to see a repeat of 405 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 2: what's happened before, and some other iteration of Hamas will 406 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 2: move in and in the facade of free and open elections, 407 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 2: which they may technically be free and open elections, but 408 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 2: nonetheless that people get elected are actually wolves in sheep clothing. 409 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: They're either Hamas or there's some other terrorist organization. And 410 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 2: then they will, assuming there are free and fair elections, 411 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 2: they will get elected. And over time, as they exercise 412 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 2: their hudna, their rehabilitation and they're regrouping, they will once 413 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 2: again take over leather rense repeat. In fact, intelligence from 414 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 2: Israeli forces have noted that the Hamas fighters concentrating in 415 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 2: key locations like Gaza City indicates that they're doing some 416 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 2: preparation for defensive or renewed offensive operations. There are some 417 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 2: estimates that suggests thousands of AMAS fighters are amassing anywhere 418 00:29:54,240 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 2: between three five thousand fighters. According to the BBC, they're 419 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 2: shifting tactics from conventional military structure to guerrilla warfare, gorilla 420 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 2: urban warfare. As a matter of fact, again is Ray 421 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 2: the military intelligence reports destruction of Hamas's infrastructure, their weapons 422 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 2: stocked pile, but they note also which never gets reported. 423 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 2: So while IDF Intel reports destruction of the HAMAS infrastructure, 424 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 2: their weapon stocked pile, and their leadership structure. It also 425 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 2: notes ongoing efforts by HAMAS to rebuild military capacity in 426 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,719 Speaker 2: stockpile arms. Do you think we've gotten rid of all 427 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 2: the tunnel networks? 428 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: Probably not. 429 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 2: They're certainly at diminished levels, you know, compared to pre 430 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 2: war levels. But the intel agencies have identified some very 431 00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 2: specific behavioral changes in Hamas's posture before major conflicts, shifts 432 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 2: and rhetoric, alteration of force deployments, public communications signaling future 433 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 2: intent at some point to resume hostilities and maybe they're 434 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 2: not doing that now, but they gets back to Huddnah. 435 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 2: Reports from inside gads are revealed that despite all the 436 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 2: military pressure and the bombardments, there's still armed factions and 437 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 2: militant networks that persist. What are we going to do 438 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 2: with those? And at what point do those little cells acting? 439 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 2: Because when you think about the destruction of the leadership, 440 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 2: they that means you've lost all your command and control. 441 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 2: And don't get me wrong, they may be you know, 442 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 2: these disparate, kind of seemingly asymmetrical organizations of terror, which 443 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 2: is what a terrorist organization is, but they still have 444 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 2: exercise and command and control. The worker bees out there, 445 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 2: you know, running around with the rifles, you know, killing 446 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 2: people and you know, taking people hostages and stealing the 447 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 2: the aid and the humanitarian food that comes in all 448 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 2: of that. 449 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: They're still known wolves. 450 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 2: But with the leadership structure, they know that they're subject 451 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 2: to well, probably being killed for disobeying orders. With that 452 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 2: command and control structure decimated, what's to prevent them from hiding? 453 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 2: And then when the new administrative group comes in again, 454 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 2: exercise hudn't it let them, you know, start rebuilding. In fact, 455 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 2: it would be to their benefit because the more that 456 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 2: the infrastructure and the buildings get reconstructed, that provides them 457 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 2: what more additional places to hide. And then whether it's 458 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 2: one year, five years, or ten years down the road, 459 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 2: what have they done. Oh, They've used that infrastructure that 460 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 2: we've built to now start the attacks all over again. 461 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be Debbie Downer here, I'm trying 462 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 2: to be Ronnie Reel realistic about what's going on. All 463 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:08,479 Speaker 2: of the intelligence picture underscores how fragile this agreement is. 464 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 2: I think everybody, everybody should understand that it's fragile. So 465 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 2: can we just kind of tap down a little bit 466 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 2: all of the hoop law over this. Yes, I'm glad 467 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 2: the killing has stopped for the time being. I'm glad 468 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 2: the hostages are going to be released. All the right 469 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:32,719 Speaker 2: question at what costs? And then, if you understand Islam, 470 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 2: particularly the Islamis, since we haven't eliminated them, as Natanyahu's 471 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 2: goal was, those little radicals, those little cockroaches, they're still 472 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 2: out there.