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Speaker 1: Away from five o'clock. This is ESPN fifteen thirty. I'm Moweger,

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Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. We'll hook Your weekend is off

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Speaker 1: to a great start. Kentucky loses to Florida seventy one

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Speaker 1: to sixty three. Bounced from the SEC Tournament. Wildcats back

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Speaker 1: in action next week in the NCAA Tournament. Do you see?

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Speaker 1: Bearcats will not be playing in the NCAA Tournament and

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Speaker 1: Wes Miller is no longer Cincinnati's head coach. This broke

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Speaker 1: earlier this afternoon, confirmed by our guy Chad Brindle at

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Speaker 1: Bearcat Journal dot com, who is joining us to start

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Speaker 1: the show. Chad, first of all, I know it's a

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Speaker 1: busy day for you, so I appreciate the time. By

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Speaker 1: the way, Bearcat journal dot com has hot Board one

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Speaker 1: point zero up right now coaching candidates for the vacancy

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Speaker 1: at UC and we'll tap into that here in just

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Speaker 1: a second. I want to start with something that you

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Speaker 1: and I have talked about occasionally over the last couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks, including yesterday, and that's you know the fact

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Speaker 1: that Wes Miller bringing him back for year number six

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Speaker 1: was always going to be a hard sell to a

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Speaker 1: lot of a lot of rank and file fans, but

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Speaker 1: that he did have some allies. He had some allies,

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Speaker 1: maybe some deep pocketed allies on his side. Were they

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Speaker 1: won over today and is that why this was done?

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Speaker 2: We don't have that answer yet. What I think is

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Speaker 2: something that we talked about yesterday that ultimately it's John

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Speaker 2: Cunningham's job that's on the line here, Like that isn't

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Speaker 2: a cushy it's not cushy, but it's a well paid position.

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Speaker 2: And if you bring Wes back and it doesn't work,

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Speaker 2: and you do lose the fan base in the process,

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Speaker 2: then that's John Cunningham that's going to be on the carpet,

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Speaker 2: you know, having to answer questions about decisions that he made.

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Speaker 2: So I'm sure that you know, eighties are partly responsible

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Speaker 2: for making sure that the people that fund the program

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Speaker 2: are on board with the decisions that need to be made.

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Speaker 2: Guess he was able to sell the people, you know,

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Speaker 2: at the highest donation level that this is a decision

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Speaker 2: that ultimately, unfortunately needed to be made and that they

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Speaker 2: had to go forward. But if we find out they've

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Speaker 2: got a three million dollar roster for next year, then

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Speaker 2: maybe we have that Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I want to go down that road here in

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Speaker 1: just a bit. How is this separation between UC and

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Speaker 1: wes Miller going to work financially?

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Speaker 2: It's a great question. The the the answers I've gotten

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Speaker 2: on it so far seem to indicate that Cincinnati is,

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Speaker 2: if need be, willing to wait until April first, when

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Speaker 2: the buyout drops, to officially let go wes Miller. That's

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Speaker 2: not how I would do it, but you know, sometimes

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Speaker 2: you have to, uh, you have the other party has

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Speaker 2: willing to negotiate down a lower buyout, or maybe they

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Speaker 2: are working on the lower buyout. That's what we don't

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Speaker 2: know is they could be working on on a you know,

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Speaker 2: a buyout number that's somewhere between the ten and the

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Speaker 2: four point six with the lawyers right now. Remember u

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Speaker 2: See didn't announce that wes Miller was fired. This has

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Speaker 2: you see has not made this official. So they could

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Speaker 2: be in negotiations. From what I know, Wes would like

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Speaker 2: to find a job this cycle. That's going to be

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Speaker 2: really hard to do if you're you know, under contract

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Speaker 2: until April first, or be a little bit more difficult

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Speaker 2: to do if you're under contract until April first. So

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Speaker 2: maybe we reach a point over these next two and

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Speaker 2: a half weeks that it's been official for both and

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Speaker 2: they come to an agreement and both sides move on.

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Speaker 2: But it does sound like at least Cincinnati waiting this

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Speaker 2: out until April first is on the table of possibilities.

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Speaker 1: All right, if that ends up being the case, how

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Speaker 1: do you conduct a coaching search at the same time, Well.

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Speaker 2: Everybody knows you got a coaching over, right, Like the

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Speaker 2: like the athletic director can still talk to agents, can

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Speaker 2: still proceed as necessary. Now I don't know. And there's

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Speaker 2: really no rules for coaches, right, Like you can go

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Speaker 2: it make it harder than it needs to be. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: In early February, wes Miller seemed like he was a

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Speaker 1: dead man walking. And then the team surges towards bubble,

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Speaker 1: the coach. How much did the specifics of what was

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Speaker 1: effectively the season ending loss on Wednesday possibly drive this decision?

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Speaker 2: It's had to be a factor, noough, Like if they

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Speaker 2: make the NCAA Tournament at that point, but they're you know,

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Speaker 2: they pop up on the screen Sunday as the second

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Speaker 2: that Arizona game and you felt just short. There's a

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Speaker 2: the sixth year, had an eight point lead with two

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Speaker 2: also the final couple minutes of overtime you couldn't get

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Speaker 1: I just came up.

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Speaker 2: I like that one shout the house burned down holding

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Speaker 2: the hose. I think that's pretty good. But your team

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Speaker 2: the meltdown happens in front of your face and an

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Speaker 2: an eye, the optics were just awful for Wes and

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Speaker 2: you're clinging to the opportunity to make the NCAA tournament

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Speaker 2: advancing that goal is right there and it just completely

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Speaker 2: a doctor in John Cunningham's decision.

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Speaker 1: On a macro level. Why did the west Miller era

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Speaker 1: not work? Why did it not work out?

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Speaker 2: Because he never managed to go from. And then here's

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Speaker 2: the thing. West isn't a bad coach. Fans get upset.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of hyperbole. West Miller's not a bad

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Speaker 2: they they're going to have to pay twenty million to

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Speaker 2: three or four. They didn't win enough of those games

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Speaker 2: and over. How much different is this conversation if they

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Speaker 2: were never bad, but they were never good enough. And

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Speaker 2: five years is I think a fair representation of you

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Speaker 2: got five years to get your team in the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 2: You're well funded, you've got support, mo we talked about

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Speaker 2: this yesterday. They weren't good this year. At times there

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Speaker 2: years is a lot of time to make one NCAA

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Speaker 1: Bearkatjournal dot com right now has a hot board and

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Speaker 1: you do this whenever there's a UC coaching search, and

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Speaker 1: you separate coaching candidates possible coaching candidates into certain tiers.

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Speaker 1: Should Jared Calhoun have his own tier?

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Speaker 2: Probably? Yeah, I think we're at that point, especially with

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Speaker 2: have not ruled out Josh Shirts at this point. One

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Speaker 2: So we don't know if he has interests in the

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Speaker 2: like the right fit. We don't know if John Cunningham

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Speaker 2: you know, there's a connection there. He's a UC alumni.

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Speaker 1: I guess should we assume that whoever the next head

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Speaker 2: So the interesting thing is mo and yes, assume that that,

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Speaker 2: because that's how the transfer portal era works. This year,

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Speaker 2: they're going to have five days to meet with the

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Speaker 2: what we don't know. Corey Evans, who was brought in

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Speaker 2: If he's staying, and I don't know that he is

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Speaker 2: So you know, if he is sticking around, then there

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Speaker 1: Awesome stuff from Chad Brendle just a few minutes ago.

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Speaker 1: Kentucky lost today to Florida seventy one to sixty three,

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Speaker 1: becoming a thing. The transfer portal is becoming a larger

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Speaker 1: part of college basketball's reality, Like a tough runway. Year two,

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Speaker 1: like it felt like he steadied the program, and then

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Speaker 1: right when he did, they bounced to the Big twelve.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, they were largely competitive that first

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Speaker 1: year the Big Twelve. But I believe those first three

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Speaker 1: years they didn't make the tournament. Made the NIT that

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Speaker 1: first year of the Big twelve, if I'm not mistaken,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sorry, made the nit the second year West

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Speaker 1: was here. The year before they go to the Big twelve.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, regardless of whatever shortcomings there were, there was

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Speaker 1: always a willingness I think by most of us to

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Speaker 1: kind of put into context, all Right, it's a period

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Speaker 1: of transition, or it's hard to get the job later,

447
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Speaker 1: it's hard to go from the AAC to the Big twelve.

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Speaker 1: I don't think until the very end of last year

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Speaker 1: did anybody really start to talk about West Miller. And

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Speaker 1: last year, if I recall, it wasn't even so much

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Speaker 1: about the results. It was about how the Bearcats looked.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I remember very clearly they're a game against

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Speaker 1: against Kansas State late last season where Kansas State's team

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Speaker 1: showed up begging to be beaten. Uced didn't comply, so

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Speaker 1: Kansas State said, fine, we'll beat you. And I remember

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Speaker 1: the next day going like, what was that? Not that

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Speaker 1: they lost the game, but what was that? That team

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Speaker 1: looked ill prepared. That team didn't necessarily look like it

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Speaker 1: was mentally ready to go. And I think that's the

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Speaker 1: first time where it was like, all right, is this

461
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Speaker 1: gonna work? But I even believe this that at the

462
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Speaker 1: end of last season, most looked at the team and said, Okay,

463
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Speaker 1: the pieces didn't fit. Good players a lot of good players,

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Speaker 1: but the pieces didn't fit. Sometimes it happens, but it

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Speaker 1: can't happen again. Now this year, toward the end of

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Speaker 1: the season, the pieces seem to fit pretty well, but

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Speaker 1: they didn't fit well enough. And so I believe you

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Speaker 1: had a coach here who had a long runway but

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Speaker 1: also this season a really low bar to clear, Like

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Speaker 1: nobody talked to this season about the Bearcats making the

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Speaker 1: Sweet sixteen. He's got to make this Sweek sixteen, or

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Speaker 1: he's out of a gig or boy, he's he's got

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Speaker 1: to contend for a Big twelve title or win a

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Speaker 1: Big Twelve title, or it's time to move on. It

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Speaker 1: was be a tournament team. Hell, be team sixty eight

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Speaker 1: and play in Dayton. That's quite frankly, not that high

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Speaker 1: of a bar to clear. Look at college basketball, Look

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Speaker 1: at the bubble. Look at all these teams that we've

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Speaker 1: spent weeks yelling at each other about maybe making it,

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Speaker 1: maybe not making it. You had an Auburn team that

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Speaker 1: this week went to the SEC Tournament with a sixteen

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Speaker 1: and fifteen record, with a chance to play in the

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Speaker 1: NCAA Tournament. And so I think with with Wes, you

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Speaker 1: had a pretty long runway, and I think this year

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Speaker 1: you had a pretty low bar to clear and they

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Speaker 1: couldn't clear it. And then you had the way things

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Speaker 1: looked on Wednesday, and the way things looked on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: this wasn't you see losing a game seventy eight to

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Speaker 1: seventy where the other team just beat him, or other

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Speaker 1: team had a guy that just offensively went nuts, Like

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Speaker 1: you had that game not your back pocket, but pretty

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Speaker 1: damn close. And not only did your team melt down,

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Speaker 1: but you couldn't help but debate the role of coaching

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Speaker 1: in the meltdown. And when you are on already thin ice,

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Speaker 1: and maybe at that point the ice was already broken,

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Speaker 1: but when you are on already thin ice, that simply

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Speaker 1: cannot happen and then you add to it fan displeasure

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Speaker 1: and anger. I've had since Wednesday night more people forward

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Speaker 1: me emails that they have written to people in power

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Speaker 1: at uc than I've ever gotten about the Bengals of

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Speaker 1: the Reds or uc or behavior or anybody else. And

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Speaker 1: it just got to a point where there's the basketball

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Speaker 1: part of it, and there's what they haven't been able

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Speaker 1: to accomplish, and there's the way the team played this year,

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Speaker 1: but there was also just the fact that Wes Miller

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Speaker 1: for a lot of people was an impossible sell. And

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Speaker 1: maybe that wasn't going to matter to some people who

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Speaker 1: have deep pockets, but it was going to have to

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Speaker 1: matter to John Cunningham and then people in the athletic

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Speaker 1: department and the people perhaps at the upper reaches of

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Speaker 1: the food chain at the school. And so it felt

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Speaker 1: like on Wednesday things changed. Maybe things weren't fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Wes's future had been decided well before tip off

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Speaker 1: against UCF, but when that game ended the way it did, frankly,

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Speaker 1: it just felt like it was totally and completely untenable

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Speaker 1: to bring him back. We'll get to what's next coming

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Speaker 1: This does feel like it'll be a massive upset if

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Speaker 1: Jared Calhoun is not the guy. I do think UC

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Speaker 1: has some really good things going forward that I'll elaborate

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Speaker 1: on coming up in fifteen minutes, But first we'll talk

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Speaker 1: to Terry Nelson on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen to thirty mo edguer u See

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Speaker 1: is moving on from Wes Miller. Terry Nelson Radio and

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Speaker 1: TV analysts for UC men's basketball kind enough to give

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Speaker 1: us a few minutes. Team Nol's, it's awesome to have you.

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Speaker 1: This season, we went into it going okay, they got

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Speaker 1: to make the tournament or else. For Wes Miller this year,

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Speaker 1: macro level. Why did it not work.

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Speaker 5: The pieces? He didn't put the right cards on the

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Speaker 5: table at the right times. And that's just been how

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Speaker 5: his I mean as a player, if I'm a fort

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Speaker 5: if I'm a player under West Miller, I love playing

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Speaker 5: for him because if I'm in that starting lineup, he

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Speaker 5: will play me way to the end, from beginning to

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Speaker 5: the end, he will be he will be loyal to

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Speaker 5: me because I've earned it in practice. However, and there's

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Speaker 5: bad games, for non productive games from your starters. There's

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Speaker 5: a reason that you have a bench and those people

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Speaker 5: on the bench get paid to you. Do you use

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Speaker 5: your bench to win games when you need it the most?

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Speaker 5: And that, unfortunately, that's sort of been them is that

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Speaker 5: making the right adjustment at the right times has seemed

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Speaker 5: to be the reason that he is no longer here.

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Speaker 1: Was the way they lost on Wednesday? For you, the

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Speaker 1: straw that broke the Camel's back.

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Speaker 5: It was it was because the answers to the tests

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Speaker 5: were sitting right in front of you. You know, keys

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Speaker 5: Chantillery is having one of his better games. He's come

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Speaker 5: along strong over the part of the reasons you won

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Speaker 5: seven out of ten is because Keyschan Tillery was emerging

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Speaker 5: off the bench. The stoppa was your focus facing the

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Speaker 5: basket and shooting jump shots. But it was you know,

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Speaker 5: you only have one point guard. You have two combo

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Speaker 5: guards and just Danaean Jizzle and one point got on

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Speaker 5: the roster, and that was Keshan Tillery. And he's the

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Speaker 5: only guy that consistently breaks this man down and gets

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Speaker 5: to the basket and makes them happen. And he's a

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Speaker 5: human press breaker. And for him not to be in

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Speaker 5: the game when you couldn't get the ball across at court,

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Speaker 5: either you take jizzl out because he was having a

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Speaker 5: hard time getting the ball across, or you take Celestie

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Speaker 5: out because you don't need points now you need to

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Speaker 5: spread the floor or get to the free throw line,

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Speaker 5: get the ball pass alf court. You could have win

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Speaker 5: three guards and let you know, pass the ball from

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Speaker 5: Tillery breaking it, or you could have had Baba Miller,

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Speaker 5: bring the ball up and throw over the top of

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Speaker 5: the double team to the second wave of guards. Here's

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Speaker 5: a pluthroop that could have happened, and neither one happened.

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Speaker 1: What are the things that are at the top of

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Speaker 1: your priority list when you think about who the next

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Speaker 1: head coach should be.

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Speaker 5: Does he have in game strategy and does he exude

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Speaker 5: toughness to the team. I mean, over the last thirty

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Speaker 5: five years since Huggins took over, there's been an emphasis

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Speaker 5: suvice and to see that sort of erode away, to

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Speaker 5: see on a daily base, guys not be held accountable

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Speaker 5: for the actions that take place on the floor because

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Speaker 5: the pretty great guys the town's there. I mean, there's

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Speaker 5: nothing wrong with the roster, it's how you fashion it.

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Speaker 5: If every if you're in a cooking contest and everybody

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Speaker 5: has the same ingredients and your kid turns out differently

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Speaker 5: than the person right next to you, it's not in

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Speaker 5: the ingredients and how you prepared it. And if you

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Speaker 5: look at the guys that it has on this roster,

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Speaker 5: they were more than capable of winning. It was only

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Speaker 5: every one or two games that they were not in it.

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Speaker 5: Every game they had a lead every game they were competing.

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Speaker 5: Every game they got right there, they could not find

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Speaker 5: a way to close. And unfortunately, because I like Wes

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Speaker 5: and a lot of people like West and you'll hear

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Speaker 5: a lot of people say this, and I like him,

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Speaker 5: but he's my favorite butt Well, I like the way

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Speaker 5: he did this. There's always an exception at the end

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Speaker 5: of that, because when it comes down to it, fired

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Speaker 5: purifies and it reveals what the essence of you already are,

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Speaker 5: which you really are. And when stuff got close, he

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Speaker 5: let his emotions get the best of him instead of

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Speaker 5: thinking clearly and doing the right thing to win the game.

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Speaker 5: For the supporters and the fan base, the name.

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Speaker 1: That is going to be brought up most often, at

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Speaker 1: least here in the early goings of this is is

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Speaker 1: Jared Calhoun, who has been here right work for Bob

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Speaker 1: Huggins towards the end of coach huggins ten year at UC.

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Speaker 1: Is he somebody you know it all? Are you beyond

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Speaker 1: just knowing that he's coaching at US tah State? Did

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Speaker 1: you become familiar with him at all while he was here?

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Speaker 1: What do you know about him?

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Speaker 5: But he was with the James White team. Why posts

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Speaker 5: a picture on this in Twitter about that, and he

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Speaker 5: was like, man to take a look at the roster

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Speaker 5: and see if he was on the roster, Like he

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Speaker 5: even forgot about it. But no, he was one of

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Speaker 5: those guys that kept it over with Hugs and Eric

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Speaker 5: Martin at West Virginia's he's worked. When you're a grand assistant,

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Speaker 5: you do a lot of stuff that you don't get

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Speaker 5: paid for. You're a lot of hours, a lot of

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Speaker 5: film sessions, a lot of scouting reports. You're playing basketball,

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Speaker 5: you do it, a lot of stuff rest work that's

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Speaker 5: just not on your job description. You're doing whatever it takes,

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Speaker 5: so you outwork a lot of people because of the

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Speaker 5: position that you're in. And to see him have success

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Speaker 5: everywhere he's been and to see that they were they

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Speaker 5: won't yesterday. I don't know if they what time they

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Speaker 5: played today, but well coached structure, toughness to it, and

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Speaker 5: they have some strategy at the end of games. I

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Speaker 5: believe that he would be because he was the guy.

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Speaker 5: Now obviously can they can consider other people as well,

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Speaker 5: but if he was a guy, I'd be comfortable with that.

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Speaker 1: You are as close to this program as anybody coaches players,

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Speaker 1: people who are connected to it folks who fund the program. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you've been here for a very long time. Is what's

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Speaker 1: needed for any head coach in place to be successful

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Speaker 1: very early during their tenure.

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Speaker 5: Well yes, Well, first of all, let's just say if

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Speaker 5: it was ky Hole, I wouldn't want to snatch it Personally,

650
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 5: I wouldn't want to snatch him away from his team.

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00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 5: I would want him to finish the tournament and then

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Speaker 5: come over for a couple of reasons. One, I think

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Speaker 5: it's unfair for the guys that he coach started alone

654
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Speaker 5: to pull him away before he gets a chance. I

655
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Speaker 5: almost like what we did with football back in the day.

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Speaker 5: I would like for him to finish because I want

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Speaker 5: him hardened to NCAA mindset. I want him going and

658
00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 5: playing in tough games and using strategy and in game

659
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Speaker 5: situations and learning how to win tournament games. I want

660
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 5: his brain stretches to new dimensions with the NCAA mindset.

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Speaker 5: Whether he wins the tournament, goes in the final fours, three, sixteen,

662
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Speaker 5: or whatever, I want him playing. I don't want to

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Speaker 5: snatch him when this team goes to the tournament and

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Speaker 5: not give him the experience of coaching in the tournament.

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Speaker 5: When we're hiring him to take us to the tournament

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Speaker 5: and be successful in the tournament, well, he could probably

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Speaker 5: take us there. But if he doesn't have the ability

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Speaker 5: to coach in the tournament because we pulled them away,

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Speaker 5: he's not growing to the point where we want him

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Speaker 5: to come in from day one with that mentality, with

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Speaker 5: the roster to the honestable because the money is there.

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Speaker 5: I want him to be able to say, look, all

673
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Speaker 5: we need is this player. This player, make a little

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00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 5: tweaks and changes here, and we can make a deep run.

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Speaker 5: Because he likes the roster, he likes the environment, he

676
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Speaker 5: likes everything that takes to be successful at Cincinnati. He

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00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 5: understands the foundation has been better since he's been gone.

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Speaker 5: And if he returns, whoever returns, I would like them

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Speaker 5: to have a mentality that, look, NCAA is floor. Is

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Speaker 5: just the floor. We're not worried about just trying to

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Speaker 5: get in the NCAA. Guess we haven't been there in

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Speaker 5: a while, but that's the floor. We have enough resources

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Speaker 5: to get the talent that we need to make deep

684
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 5: runs every year. Whether we've made the deep runs every

685
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 5: year is not the question. We have the talent and

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Speaker 5: we should be in the conversation every year.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I appreciate the time on short notice. Man. By

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Speaker 1: the way, Jered Calhoun's team plays on Nevada tonight. I'm

689
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Speaker 1: rooting for them just because they're playing Nevada in the

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Speaker 1: Mountain West Tournament. That game tips off at nine thirty

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Speaker 1: this evening. I know you have a lot going on, man,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you jumping on. We'll see you soon.

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Speaker 5: Appreciate you.

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Speaker 4: Mo.

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Speaker 1: as the men's basketball head coach at the University of

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati after five seasons. The news not officially announced yet

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Speaker 1: by the university. As you heard Chad talk about last hour,

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Speaker 1: lawyers are lawyering as it relates to the buyout. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: a whole bunch of college basketball games. I love this day.

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Speaker 1: I love this day when you have conference tournament quarterfinals

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Speaker 1: and semifinals across the country. Kentucky fans did not love

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Speaker 1: this day. Florida did not play well, and yet you

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Speaker 1: never felt like Kentucky was gonna win the game even

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Speaker 1: when they got close. Ish Gators beat the Wildcats seventy

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Speaker 1: one to sixty three for the first time this season.

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Speaker 1: I think Kentucky played one hundred and twenty minutes against

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Speaker 1: the Gators and never let in any of them. If

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Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, which I often am Ohio State, Felda, Michigan.

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Speaker 1: In the Big Ten Tournament seventy one to sixty seven.

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Speaker 1: Dayton beat Saint Bonaventure in Pittsburgh in the A ten Tournament.

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Speaker 1: Flyers will take on Saint Louis tomorrow. Reds play the

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Speaker 1: Giants twice tonight. Brady Singer on the mound for Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: in Goodyear at nine oh five on seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: Another team of Reds players led by Chase Burns on

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Speaker 1: the Mound takes on the Giants in Scottsdale at seven

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Speaker 1: oh five. As a spring training veteran, if you had

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Speaker 1: your choice between the two, you would want to go

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Speaker 1: to Scottsdale. That's all I got for you. What else

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Speaker 1: do we have? Bengals made it official. Defensive tackle Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Allen signs a two year contract. By the way, a

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Speaker 1: couple of Reds games got moved to nighttime next week

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Speaker 1: because it is an extreme heat in Phoenix. The Cubs

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Speaker 1: game on the twentieth, which is next Friday, is now

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Speaker 1: going to be a night game, and the White Sox

742
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: game on the twenty first is now going to be

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Speaker 1: a night game. It's going to be really hot in

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cyclones ain't going to be hot at the hockey

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Speaker 1: rink downtown Clones play. Iow tonight. I think they're giving

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Speaker 1: away bags. I think strap bags or something. I drove

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Speaker 1: past the billboard getting on the I seventy five today,

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Speaker 1: Go Clones. We got about five minutes here. We talked

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Speaker 1: two segments ago before Terry Nelson about the past five years,

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Speaker 1: and now now it's about what's next and what's next

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00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: for John Cunningham, like it's enormous. Let's be honest. You

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Speaker 1: can be an athletics director and have a lot of

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Speaker 1: different things under your umbrella. You've got to raise money,

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Speaker 1: You've got to negotiate media deals. You've got to oversee

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Speaker 1: an advertising department. You have to hire and fire coaches

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00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: in let's call them lower profile sports. Yeah, you have

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Speaker 1: to maintain facilities. There's probably facets of that job that

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Speaker 1: I can't even imagine. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: you're judged by the success of the coaches you hire

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Speaker 1: in the school's two most high profile sports. Obviously, not

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00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 1: every school has football. Scott Saderfield. If we're being gentle,

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Speaker 1: we'll say the jury is still out. Call it what

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Speaker 1: it is. And I personally like Scott Saderfield a lot.

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Speaker 1: His record in November right now leads the discussion. He

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00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: is certainly not an extraordinarily popular figure. He's been there

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Speaker 1: for three years. In each of the last two seasons,

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Speaker 1: what felt like we're going to be good seasons, really

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Speaker 1: good seasons kind of bottomed out toward the end. John

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Speaker 1: Cunningham hired Scott Saderfield. He also hired Wes Miller. Now,

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Speaker 1: I thought when they hired Wes Miller that was a

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Speaker 1: good hire. I'm not gonna walk back that and say, boy,

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Speaker 1: it was a terrible hire. Like for the time, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, it felt like it made sense. It just

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Speaker 1: didn't work out. But athletic directors only get so many

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Speaker 1: cracks at it, and so I would find it hard

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Speaker 1: to believe that if they have to move on from

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Speaker 1: the next head coach, not the coach is successful and

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00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: moves on from them, but they have to move on

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Speaker 1: from the next head coach, and between that coach being

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Speaker 1: hired and being let go there are no NCAA tournaments

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Speaker 1: or not a lot of success or almost unending fan unrest,

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Speaker 1: then this athletic director is not likely to be hiring

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Speaker 1: a third men's basketball head coach, or heck, maybe a

784
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Speaker 1: second football. So this decision feels like it's really important

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Speaker 1: for John Cunningham. I think that goes without saying. Many

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Speaker 1: have talked about like if you see moves on from

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Speaker 1: West Miller, you have a chance to be maybe the

788
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: best job in the cycle and best job or good job, etc.

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00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: Those things are subjective and we'll see which jobs come open.

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00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: The season's not over for a lot of teams. There

791
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: could be a surprise retirement. There could be a basketball

792
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: coach that jumps to the NBA. There could be a

793
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: school that out of nowhere fires a coach. There could

794
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: be schools that use the NCAA tournament as the barometer

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Speaker 1: for which they measure success, and then you know, if

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Speaker 1: you don't win in it, you're gone. We will see,

797
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: but right now it feels like it's one of the

798
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: premier jobs that are open. Maybe you can make an

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00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: argument Syracuse. Syracuse is in an easier league to win,

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Speaker 1: but it's a good job and it's I'll be called

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00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: a homer for saying this, Like you don't have to

802
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: get fans to come to games. They come to games.

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00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: You see games have been tremendously attended. The Bearcats haven't

804
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: made a tournament since twenty nineteen. I do believe like

805
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,919
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why a lot of folks turned

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Speaker 1: against Wes and he put himself in the microscope this

807
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: year was this was not an inexpensive roster. It's you know,

808
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: a second team All League guy and honor Will mentioned

809
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: All League guy like this, it's not an inexpensive roster.

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Speaker 1: They pulled players from other like high major programs. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it wasn't the most expensive roster, wasn't a cheap roster,

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00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: So it feels like there's some financial infrastructure there. Also,

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00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: there is a level of steadiness that I don't think

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00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: Wes Miller early on ever got to enjoy. That's not

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Speaker 1: an excuse for Wes. It's just like it's hard to

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00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: say that anything is stable or per in college sports

817
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: right now, but there's some stability that you see right now.

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00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: They're not jumping to another league anytime soon. Now we'll

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Speaker 1: see what happens, you know, with the next wave of realignment,

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00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: super conferences, all that, But they're not making the jump

821
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Speaker 1: to the SEC or making the jump to the big.

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Speaker 1: They're a Big twelve program and by the way they

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Speaker 1: went five hundred in the Big Twelve this year, God willing,

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00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: there's no pandemic nil, which there's obviously ongoing conversations about

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Speaker 1: nil and what it should look like, or player compensation

826
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Speaker 1: and what it should look like. But you know, the

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Speaker 1: new world of college sports isn't quite as new as

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Speaker 1: it was a couple of years ago. So you know,

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Speaker 1: like I feel like there's relatively steady footy is steady

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Speaker 1: footing for whoever the next head coach is. It ain't

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Speaker 1: gonna be easy to win in year one, no matter

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Speaker 1: who it is, because it's hard to walk into a

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00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: situation where you don't have any players if that ends

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Speaker 1: up being the case and you have to cobble together

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Speaker 1: a new ross. Richard Patino will tell you that it's

836
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 1: also not impossible to win year one. It's not apples

837
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: to apples. The leagues aren't as good this year, but

838
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: just Jay Lucas Miami won this year and didn't win

839
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: last night. But Kevin Willard at Villanova won this year.

840
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,240
Speaker 1: No two jobs are the same, but I do feel

841
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: like there's a level of steadiness that you see that

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00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: provides a nice runway for a new head coach. To

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00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,720
Speaker 1: have some success. And again the first bar to clear

844
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Speaker 1: is not a very high one. B Team number sixty eight.

845
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Speaker 1: And by the way, maybe here soon B Team seventy

846
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Speaker 1: two or seventy six or eighty or ninety six or

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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty six, whatever, they ultimately end up

848
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Speaker 1: expanding the number of teams in the tournament. Two, we're

849
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Speaker 1: not for a while going to be talking about making

850
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: deep runs into the tournament, into the sweet sixteen, or

851
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: competing for Big twelve championship B Team sixty eight. And

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Speaker 1: I do feel like, and you can tell me if

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Speaker 1: I'm wrong, we'll come back next week. I do feel

854
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 1: like there's a runway in place and enough steady footing

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Speaker 1: in place for that to happen with whoever the new

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Speaker 1: head coach is. And right now at the odds on

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Speaker 1: favorite feels like it's Jared Calhoun. We are done. I

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Speaker 1: wish we had more time. We'll put we already put

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Speaker 1: Chad Brindle on the iHeartRadio app, and my computer is

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Speaker 1: not cooperating, but I would be willing to guarantee you

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Speaker 1: that Taran has put to Yes. Terry Nelson's also on

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Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, so you can listen to both those

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Speaker 1: conversations as well as anything else we did this week.

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Speaker 1: Did lots of Bengal stuff this week. We're back Monday

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Speaker 1: at three oh five. So is Tony Pike, Sincy three

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Speaker 1: sixty at noon. We look forward to both have a

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Speaker 1: great weekend. Thank you for listening. Thanks to Tarren Bland

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Speaker 1: for producing. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 3: Station, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty Traffic.

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Speaker 4: Highway left lane is blocked off from a disabled vehicle.

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Speaker 4: West found Ronald Reagan Highway an accident approaching Galbreath and

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Speaker 4: westbound two seventy five. Accident on the right shoulder at

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Speaker 4: seventy one seventy five. I'm at ezelic with traffic