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Speaker 2: Let's get it going. Welcome in on this Monday night.
Speaker 2: It's Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network in seven
Speaker 2: hundred WLW. Lance McAlister Dave Lapham here to wrap up
Speaker 2: yesterday and wrap up the season on a Monday where
Speaker 2: we dissect twenty to eighteen finally lost to the Cleveland
Speaker 2: Browns which closes the season at six and eleven, and today, boy, emotionally,
Speaker 2: there were moments in that game in the first half,
Speaker 2: I thought what is going on in this game?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: And then there were moments is Burrow leads him down
Speaker 2: the field of his chase as I'll be dad, They're
Speaker 2: going to win this thing. And then Shador Sanders does
Speaker 2: what I didn't think he was capable of doing and
Speaker 2: marches him down the field, and I thought, well, it
Speaker 2: is kind of fitting that all the elements, all the ingredients,
Speaker 2: all the symptoms of this season through the first sixteen
Speaker 2: weeks are kind of stirred together, and we saw them
Speaker 2: all pop up at various times, and unfortunately, a twenty
Speaker 2: to eighteen loss.
Speaker 4: A twenty to eighteen loss, and Zach basically, I'm loose
Speaker 4: interpretation here of what he said, but it was like, hey,
Speaker 4: you get what you earn and deserve, you know, I mean,
Speaker 4: we never put that game away. We turned the football over,
Speaker 4: we allowed them to score two defensive touchdowns. Shouldn't have
Speaker 4: won that football game. And we didn't win the football
Speaker 4: game as a result of our mistakes, you know, turnovers,
Speaker 4: not efficient enough on third down. If they didn't turn
Speaker 4: the football over and they scored on the possessions that
Speaker 4: they gave them with turnovers, who knows what the final
Speaker 4: score of this football game could have been. The Cleveland
Speaker 4: Browns are below average as a football team. There's no
Speaker 4: question about that. The Cincinnati Bengals had done well. I mean,
Speaker 4: they were they were looking to finish with a three
Speaker 4: game winning streak, they were looking to finish Foreign Tune
Speaker 4: Division and all that went by the boards, and it's
Speaker 4: their own doing that. They self destructed.
Speaker 2: Here is Zach Taylor with Dave after the game for
Speaker 2: immediate reaction.
Speaker 5: It's a tough ending for us, you know, to lose
Speaker 5: a divisional game versus arrival at home, this is challenging,
Speaker 5: and we had our opportunities and we didn't make it happen.
Speaker 4: You you were in the stadium was pretty well rocking.
Speaker 4: Uh stadium did a did a pretty nice job. Fans
Speaker 4: showed up Cleveland. Some Cleveland fans obviously traveled down from Cleveland,
Speaker 4: but I mean people showed up for this football game.
Speaker 4: Battle of Ohio. It's always big and it was part
Speaker 4: two of the Battle of Ohio. What do you think
Speaker 4: was the biggest reason that fell a little bit short?
Speaker 5: Well, the two turners touchdowns obviously don't don't help, because
Speaker 5: our defense really did a nice job.
Speaker 6: They kept him to six points.
Speaker 5: Two field goals created turnover and and so that that
Speaker 5: parts frustrating to have two extra points I go away
Speaker 5: and have two turnovers for touchdowns.
Speaker 6: That's that's a that's a really tough way to lose.
Speaker 4: This is going to be a statistical anomaly this game.
Speaker 4: I mean it'll be for the season. I don't think
Speaker 4: there's anything quite like this football game that anybody else
Speaker 4: may have experienced this year. I don't think I've ever
Speaker 4: seen anything like it in the years that I've been,
Speaker 4: you know, playing in broadcasting for the Cincinnati Bengals. I
Speaker 4: mean it, it's it's it's a shame. But you know,
Speaker 4: the thing that it proved to me is what I
Speaker 4: think is the most impressive thing I take away from
Speaker 4: from this season is this football team never quits. They
Speaker 4: have never say die attitude. There are a bunch of
Speaker 4: good people out there and good football players as well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, two things can be true. We can have a
Speaker 5: disappointing season. I still be really proud of our guys,
Speaker 5: go to battle with them any day. And we got
Speaker 5: to work hard this offseason. We got to work hard
Speaker 5: the soft season. We got to get ourselves back to
Speaker 5: being meaningful conversations, playing meaningful games, because this hurt. You know,
Speaker 5: to be done a week eighteen and have to watch
Speaker 5: everybody else play and be out of it is not
Speaker 5: in our dna, and we're gonna find like hell to
Speaker 5: get back in it.
Speaker 4: This is always a tough time because as a head coach,
Speaker 4: it's the last time you addressed this football team with
Speaker 4: this coaching staff. There could be changes within the coaching staff,
Speaker 4: within the player roster, whatever the case may be. I
Speaker 4: do know from playing experience and that from one year
Speaker 4: to the next, there's going to be some different faces
Speaker 4: in the locker room.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's how it goes. You know, That's life in
Speaker 5: the NFL and doesn't mean I don't enjoy going to
Speaker 5: battle with all these guys and understanding that things will
Speaker 5: change that. Everybody knows that, and we'll just keep working
Speaker 5: through it.
Speaker 4: What do you think is the is the most necessary
Speaker 4: component for you to add for this football team to
Speaker 4: be a playoff caliber team.
Speaker 5: Well, I think that's just that's just part of what
Speaker 5: we'll go through in the offseason and make sure we're
Speaker 5: putting our best foot forward.
Speaker 4: That's what people don't realize and understand is in the offseason,
Speaker 4: all the study that goes into evaluating the prior season,
Speaker 4: evaluating talent that might be available to you in the
Speaker 4: upcoming draft, looking at free agents in the National Football
Speaker 4: League that might be available to you. There's a lot
Speaker 4: that goes on, isn't there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And there's a lot that Well there's a time
Speaker 5: and place for all that, you know, So we'll decompress,
Speaker 5: wrap up this season tomorrow with these guys, make sure
Speaker 5: we finish all that the right way, and then you
Speaker 5: move to the next phase of you know, getting you
Speaker 5: FOOTBA team right for twenty twenty six, and we'll spend
Speaker 5: a lot of time on that.
Speaker 6: Coach.
Speaker 4: As I said, appreciate you here a class act. The
Speaker 4: Bengals fans are very fortunate, and they know they're fortunate,
Speaker 4: and they look forward to the information you give them
Speaker 4: to keep them abreast of their Cincinnati Bengals, their favorite
Speaker 4: football team. Appreciate your time, sir, Thank you, Dave, Appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor after the game, and boy David winds up
Speaker 2: being another one score game, and so much of the
Speaker 2: NFL is one score games. That seems it's a very
Speaker 2: parody driven close game. That's twelve times over the last
Speaker 2: two seasons they've been so close to winning a game,
Speaker 2: but it goes the other way. And that's that's like
Speaker 2: the merging of life in the NFL. You teeter and
Speaker 2: if you find a way to find the wind up
Speaker 2: on this side of it, you make the playoffs most
Speaker 2: of the time, and when you don't, you wind up.
Speaker 2: Like we are discussing what what wrong in a season?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and as a result of that, the you know,
Speaker 4: the Bengals don't make the playoffs again. The fan base
Speaker 4: is disturbed. There's unrest in the fan base and deservedly so,
Speaker 4: and they want changes. I mean, obviously, Joe Burrow is
Speaker 4: playing at a high level and he will continue to
Speaker 4: be the Bengals quarterback. Jamar Chase will continue to be
Speaker 4: the primary receiver the one number one receiver, and other
Speaker 4: side of the of the football field is t Higgins
Speaker 4: and he's like one a. I mean, he's a one
Speaker 4: with a lot of franchises in the National Football League.
Speaker 4: So those three components, I mean, that's that's a nice
Speaker 4: start to build a football team. But I'll tell you what,
Speaker 4: if I'm anybody else, I'm not going home into the
Speaker 4: offseason thinking, yeah, I'll be back. I got this made.
Speaker 4: I got this football team made. We're going to come
Speaker 4: back and get after it again. It's a young football team.
Speaker 4: I think there's some room to grow. There's me down
Speaker 4: the bone, but I think some of the young football
Speaker 4: players did develop during the course of the season, for sure,
Speaker 4: and they got a lot better as the season went on.
Speaker 4: And again they can improve even more, but I do
Speaker 4: think there are going to be changes in the personnel.
Speaker 4: I think the fifty three men roster as such is
Speaker 4: going to look different next year for sure.
Speaker 2: Dave to update and case fans missed it earlier in
Speaker 2: the day, The team and Mike Brown did issue a
Speaker 2: statement earlier today. It reads, in part, we came into
Speaker 2: the season with high expectations, coming off four straight winning
Speaker 2: seasons with leaders in place that took us to the
Speaker 2: super Bowl at two AFC Championship games. We know this
Speaker 2: season has been frustrating and disappointing. The results fell short
Speaker 2: of our standards. Our focus is on building a team
Speaker 2: that can consistently compete at a high level. After thoughtful consideration,
Speaker 2: I am confident that Duke Tobain and Zach Taylor are
Speaker 2: the right leaders to guide us forward. He closed by saying,
Speaker 2: we are taking a hard look at everything we do
Speaker 2: as we approach this offseason with focused determination to build
Speaker 2: a championship caliber roster. We are fully committed to delivering
Speaker 2: results that match the pride, passion, and expectations of this
Speaker 2: organization and our fans.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 4: I think you know he probably felt some pressure to
Speaker 4: come out with a statement because of the unrest in
Speaker 4: the fan base, and like we talked about the social
Speaker 4: media on Mike is one that hits the social media
Speaker 4: hard before he goes to bed. But I know, I
Speaker 4: know Katie is aware of it, Troy's aware of it,
Speaker 4: the daughters, the girls are aware of it.
Speaker 2: So very important offseason ahead, now, no question.
Speaker 4: I think I think it's a crossroads off season, you know.
Speaker 4: I mean, I do think because when you have a
Speaker 4: quarterback like Joe Burrow, you don't want to waste seasons.
Speaker 4: You don't want to waste opportunities, you know, And I
Speaker 4: think that that's what the fans are most frustrated about.
Speaker 4: That You've had a guy who could lead you to
Speaker 4: a super Bowl and a Super Bowl victory and you've
Speaker 4: wasted opportunities. So I think that had enough of that.
Speaker 4: Let's move on, make the changes we need to make,
Speaker 4: and go out and compete and try to get in
Speaker 4: the playoffs and win a super Bowl next year. Perfect segue.
Speaker 4: We move on.
Speaker 2: You'll hear a little bit from QB one, Joe Burrow
Speaker 2: and more as we dissect yesterday and look ahead of
Speaker 2: the off season. We roll on with Bengals Line of
Speaker 2: the Bengals Radio Networking seven hundred WLW back on Bengals
Speaker 2: Line and the Bengals Radio Networking seven hundred WLW Lance
Speaker 2: but can Lester Dave Lapham, thanks for hanging out with
Speaker 2: us on this night where we put the season to rest.
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow yesterday was twenty nine of thirty nine, two
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty six yards, three touchdowns, quarterback rating of
Speaker 2: one oh four point two and was very very reflective
Speaker 2: of the season completed and what's ahead for this team?
Speaker 2: Here is QB one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just beat ourselves today, fall stars, turnovers, Eliot
Speaker 3: uh mental airs certainly wasn't high level football today.
Speaker 8: Do you think that's.
Speaker 3: Because it was the end of the season.
Speaker 9: If you think it's just sometimes you have those games
Speaker 9: the opponent make sure.
Speaker 3: It's tough to say. I mean, we certainly can't have
Speaker 3: the mental areas we have today. Why what caused that?
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know, but I can't happen.
Speaker 10: Do You were able to keep Miles Garrett out until
Speaker 10: we finally got the one late? How big of the
Speaker 10: game part of the game plan was keeping him neutralized
Speaker 10: and out of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have you have to if you want to
Speaker 3: be successful. Against that team. He's the focus of our
Speaker 3: game plan every time we plan. It's no secret you
Speaker 3: have to and it's challenging because you have to commit
Speaker 3: resources to that and that takes away resources from from elsewhere.
Speaker 3: But for the most part, I thought we were pretty
Speaker 3: good against him today, But you can see how impactful
Speaker 3: we have no help on him one time and he
Speaker 3: gets one, and that.
Speaker 11: He was.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it is him that put his put
Speaker 3: his hand up and knocked the ball down on the
Speaker 3: goal line into an interception. I don't know that for
Speaker 3: sure because I've watched the tape, but it was his side.
Speaker 3: It was one of those guys over there. So he's
Speaker 3: an aware elite player that you have to revolve your
Speaker 3: game plan around.
Speaker 12: Really asked you a lot about the future.
Speaker 13: I'm sorry for a few future questions.
Speaker 3: Last time we get to talk to.
Speaker 12: You for a little bit.
Speaker 2: How involved do you plan to be?
Speaker 14: I know you said quarterback, but you also know your
Speaker 14: voice carries a lot of weight here in this organization.
Speaker 14: How involved do you plan to be in conversations with
Speaker 14: Mike d zach immediately following the season about what you
Speaker 14: think and what you want this franchise to do to
Speaker 14: make sure this off season goes the way that you
Speaker 14: wanted to.
Speaker 3: We'll have those meetings the next couple of days. I think.
Speaker 3: I think for the most part, we're all on the
Speaker 3: same page about what we have to do and where
Speaker 3: we have to go. Without having the meetings. It's tough
Speaker 3: to say, but I know they certainly value my opinion.
Speaker 3: I think I think about things critically. I think that
Speaker 3: I can provide some insight into things going on in
Speaker 3: the lockerom and on the field that could help us win,
Speaker 3: and so I plan to voice some things, just like
Speaker 3: I do every off season, just to follow up on that.
Speaker 14: I know you're not going to share a lot publicly, but.
Speaker 15: Whatever you're comfortable shared.
Speaker 14: If you had to say, what would you want to
Speaker 14: see most of this off season done by this organization
Speaker 14: to help support you, what would you say?
Speaker 16: It is.
Speaker 3: Good. Yeah, it's tough to say right now without talking
Speaker 3: to two people, and those meetings will be done the
Speaker 3: next few days. I'm very confident in our coaching staff.
Speaker 3: I know those guys work really hard to put us
Speaker 3: in good positions, and you know, I always feel well
Speaker 3: prepared and putting the best spot to go out and succeed.
Speaker 3: So from that standpoint, I think we're in a good spot.
Speaker 17: Do you have the same level of confidence in the
Speaker 17: organization as you did at the beginning.
Speaker 3: Of the year? Higher or lower? We all want to win.
Speaker 3: We all want to win.
Speaker 17: Do you think you're the championship mindset is being matched organizationally?
Speaker 3: Do you see that?
Speaker 8: Do you feel that?
Speaker 3: I mean, I sure, hope so. I think I know
Speaker 3: everybody's frustrated right now. So it's hard to there's a
Speaker 3: there's a there's a disconnect during the season. You know,
Speaker 3: we we're all down here and focus on the day
Speaker 3: to day and trying to get better, and it's their
Speaker 3: job upstairs focus on the big picture and where we
Speaker 3: need to go and who we need to be. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I know they're committed to that.
Speaker 9: When you guys were winning division titles and going to
Speaker 9: the AFC Championship Game and went to Super Bowl fifty six,
Speaker 9: the big reason why some of your free agents that
Speaker 9: you guys brought into Nick Stertle, guys, do you think.
Speaker 3: For this organization, Yeah, that's that's that's of paramount importance.
Speaker 3: I think you have to identify where you're weak and
Speaker 3: figure out a way to be strong in that area.
Speaker 3: That's that's the NFL year in and year out. Sometimes it
Speaker 3: works out, sometimes it doesn't, but you have to attack
Speaker 3: that period with intent to get better.
Speaker 10: Pretty surprised, and Eric got the record exact said the
Speaker 10: officials hadn't informed him in advance.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, was I surprised? No, No, I wasn't surprised.
Speaker 3: That's typically how they handle those kinds of situations.
Speaker 12: You walk us through that play and that that led
Speaker 12: on the on a sack what y'all called it, kind
Speaker 12: of how he won?
Speaker 3: Do you remember, you know, I'm trying. I'm trying to
Speaker 3: remember if we had It's tough to recall right now,
Speaker 3: the exact protection ideas on that whether we because certain
Speaker 3: certain looks you can't you can't have help on on
Speaker 3: ninety five because of the potential pressure responses that they give.
Speaker 3: But it's it's tough to it's have to remember the
Speaker 3: exact call in that situation off the top of my head.
Speaker 12: Going back to some of the earlier questions, you guys
Speaker 12: are walking now from being a postseason, does that kind
Speaker 12: of where on you and build maybe a little bit
Speaker 12: more pressure, you know, on everybody. Let's getting back to
Speaker 12: that point when he gets further and further away from
Speaker 12: where y'all expect to be.
Speaker 3: We certainly where we want our need to be, now
Speaker 3: where I expect to be. So yeah, we have figured out.
Speaker 3: We got to figure it out.
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow after the game on What's Ahead. We'll hear
Speaker 2: more from Joe and certainly talk more Joe as we
Speaker 2: continue on tonight. Thanks for being here. It's Bengals Line
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Speaker 2: Liions MacAllister hanging out with Dave Lapham for the final
Speaker 2: time tonight, sorting through yesterday and sorting through the off
Speaker 2: season ahead cam sample yesterday six tackles, two sacks, he
Speaker 2: forced to fumble, and he talked about the afternoon after
Speaker 2: the games same.
Speaker 18: You know, we wanted to set the tempover. You know,
Speaker 18: it's the AFC North game. We played them already, we
Speaker 18: know what type of game it's gonna be. So I
Speaker 18: think we approach with around mindset, just gotta make the
Speaker 18: players at the end.
Speaker 7: A lot of young guys on the defensive line today.
Speaker 7: We saw it for long periods of time. How do
Speaker 7: you think this group, if you Miles Schamar did as group?
Speaker 18: Yeah, I think we did good. You know, I always
Speaker 18: gotta watch your tape. It's always you know, stuff can
Speaker 18: clean up. Not as good as you think, not as
Speaker 18: bad as you think. So, I mean, I think the
Speaker 18: energy was, their attention to detail was there. We just
Speaker 18: got probably small things to clean up to, you know,
Speaker 18: not even be in that position at the end of
Speaker 18: the game xact contrad up with the.
Speaker 19: Fact that it was kind of an appropriate ending to
Speaker 19: this game for the season and what it represented. What
Speaker 19: do you think you guys can do to make sure
Speaker 19: that you can finish next year?
Speaker 18: Yeah, I think it's just about playing complementary football at
Speaker 18: the right times. You know, it's been times this year
Speaker 18: where the offense has been rolling defense you know, had
Speaker 18: our issues and or or you know, they have stuff
Speaker 18: going on. So just playing a complete game as a team,
Speaker 18: you know, I think that's just the mindset going forward.
Speaker 15: Do you think the pieces are in this locker room
Speaker 15: You're confident that the pieces are in this locker room to.
Speaker 11: Turn it around?
Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean, yeah, for sure, cause I think we've
Speaker 18: seen it at times offense been rolling, defense and rolling.
Speaker 18: So the pieces are here, we just gotta it was
Speaker 18: just a consistency thing on my uh in my opinion.
Speaker 18: So I think all the pieces are here for sure.
Speaker 7: What important is it cam when younger players or guys
Speaker 7: without as much experience, when they get a shot they perform.
Speaker 18: Yeah, you know, uh, it's important. You know, first of all,
Speaker 18: just for confidence. I mean that's half the battle right there.
Speaker 18: And then you know, it's a really talented league. So
Speaker 18: just getting those experience reps, it's just huge for young guys.
Speaker 18: I remember coming in those reps I got my rookie year,
Speaker 18: you know, I take them stuff with me. I learned
Speaker 18: even to this day, So it's just a big experience.
Speaker 13: Then coming in thanks, I'm coming back coming back from
Speaker 13: a serious injury. How do you feel like the season
Speaker 13: went for you? And and finishing on this kind of a.
Speaker 18: Note, Yeah, I mean goal WI is definitely not the
Speaker 18: season I wanted to have. I got big expectations for myself.
Speaker 18: I think towards the end of the season, playing more,
Speaker 18: got to put some good stuff on tape. I think
Speaker 18: I ended well. So I'm just happy to you know,
Speaker 18: just kind of show them mine. I still can I
Speaker 18: still can play ball.
Speaker 13: It was a good day for the defense that unfortunately
Speaker 13: ended with a disappointing finish. How do you to bal
Speaker 13: how do you balance at emotionally?
Speaker 18: You know, it's tough, man. I mean we're warriors. We
Speaker 18: go out there, we want to win. We want to
Speaker 18: do it perfect for four quarters. That's just not the
Speaker 18: nature of the game. But you know, but that's how
Speaker 18: we want to you know, we want to be out
Speaker 18: there with the game in the line, like putting on
Speaker 18: our shoulders. So I mean next time, you know, net
Speaker 18: season just going forward, just got to find a way to
Speaker 18: make those players.
Speaker 13: Man, defense got better, maybe not week by week, but
Speaker 13: certainly in the second half of the season. How encouraged
Speaker 13: are you by that?
Speaker 18: You know, it's good. You know, I think I was
Speaker 18: consistent his messages. I think our defense coaches did the
Speaker 18: hell of a job. Even the offensive guys. You know,
Speaker 18: when things aren't going with you know, they're lifting us
Speaker 18: up and all that so we can come together and
Speaker 18: really play our style of football.
Speaker 11: So I think it was just huge.
Speaker 13: We're standing right in a stretch of defensive line locker
Speaker 13: rooms on our lockers rather on either side of you.
Speaker 13: How encouraged are you by the play of some of
Speaker 13: your brothers up there in the defensive line.
Speaker 18: Yeah, you know, it's good to see, you know, just
Speaker 18: most obvious Murph. You know, I know how hard he worked.
Speaker 18: You know, I've been here since he was a rookie.
Speaker 18: Just so just seeing his growth is huge. Chamar, just
Speaker 18: learning week the week, seeing said come in, make some plays.
Speaker 11: So it's just good to see those guys.
Speaker 18: I don't know how much put into it, So when
Speaker 18: I see the results, I know it's they're happy, and
Speaker 18: I'm happy for him.
Speaker 13: Appreciate you, Kam, Thank you.
Speaker 2: Appreciate So Cam Sample after a very productive day and David,
Speaker 2: I think it feels like he's been here a long time,
Speaker 2: and he realized he's still only twenty six years old.
Speaker 2: He's coming off that achilles injury that wiped out last season. Boy,
Speaker 2: if you're looking ahead, you need young guys to keep
Speaker 2: getting better. And what a way to go into the
Speaker 2: off season for Cam Sample. And you got to feel
Speaker 2: good for the way he bounced back from the injury.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree one hundred thousand percent with that, Lance,
Speaker 4: you know, and he's his talent. He's a physical talent.
Speaker 4: He has fought the injury bug. You know, just when
Speaker 4: things start to look like they're falling into place for him,
Speaker 4: he gets nicked up and he's down and having to
Speaker 4: go through in some cases surgery and rehab and all
Speaker 4: that sort of thing. So you know, that'll definitely slow
Speaker 4: your progress progress down in terms of development, particularly when
Speaker 4: you're a young player like that. I think, honestly, the
Speaker 4: two young guys, Miles Murphy and Cam Sample both of them.
Speaker 4: Miles Murphy's battles injury problems as well, But both of
Speaker 4: these guys are physically what you want. I mean, they're specimens.
Speaker 4: They get size, they get strength, they get speed, they
Speaker 4: get first step quickness, they get all all the things
Speaker 4: that you're looking for. And I think they could be,
Speaker 4: you know, a really good tande for the future. Am
Speaker 4: I saying? If your first pick in the top ten
Speaker 4: looks like Bengal's gonna have the tenth pick of the draft,
Speaker 4: and if there's an edge rusher that is still on
Speaker 4: the board and you're like got to take that guy,
Speaker 4: take them, take them. You can never have enough. I mean,
Speaker 4: now you could have a three player rotation in there.
Speaker 4: And maybe the tenth pick of the draft gets more
Speaker 4: snaps than the others because he panned out. He's a
Speaker 4: tenth pick of the draft and he panned out, but
Speaker 4: there's no guarantees of that, so it'll be it'll be
Speaker 4: interesting to see what the Bengals do in the draft,
Speaker 4: but I think they do have a couple of young
Speaker 4: edge rush guys that could be pretty significant and making
Speaker 4: major contributions in the future.
Speaker 2: That's some defensive talk. Let's get back into the offense
Speaker 2: and a guy who wrapped up one heck of a season,
Speaker 2: Chase Brown, will from him as we continue Bengals On
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Speaker 2: continue on in this Monday night of Bengals Line and
Speaker 2: the Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW Lance McAllister
Speaker 2: hanging out with Dave Lapham Chase Brown. Yesterday thirteen carries
Speaker 2: seventy two yards the average five point five a carry
Speaker 2: along of nineteen added in four catches, including another touchdown.
Speaker 2: He's been a touchdown machine. Here's Chase with Dave after
Speaker 2: the game.
Speaker 4: What was the difference in how you were playing down
Speaker 4: the stretch.
Speaker 20: I think we were we were just connecting on all levels.
Speaker 20: We're keeping Joe up Oline, was doing a great job
Speaker 20: in the run blocking, We're making big plays down the field,
Speaker 20: and when that all comes together, that's the Cincinnati Bengals offense.
Speaker 20: So that's what was going right. And I'm honestly grateful
Speaker 20: that we were able to find that because that's, like,
Speaker 20: you know, that's hard to find sometimes, especially with you know,
Speaker 20: the way that we started and the struggles that were going.
Speaker 20: In hindsight, it does feel good to, you know, be
Speaker 20: able to find that.
Speaker 4: We're speaking with Chase Brown, by the way, who's a
Speaker 4: Bengals running back extraordinary, who had a hell of a
Speaker 4: year this year. A thousand yards rushing for the first time.
Speaker 4: What's that feel like?
Speaker 3: Feels great?
Speaker 20: I was ten yards off it last year, got injured
Speaker 20: in Week sixteen against the Broncos. So it feels good
Speaker 20: to finish off the year with you know, that statistical measure,
Speaker 20: but still a lot more that. You know, we want
Speaker 20: to achieve as a team, so you want to be
Speaker 20: in the playoffs, you want to make a long postseason push.
Speaker 20: So that's kind of where I'm at right now. Just
Speaker 20: sucks that we're not doing that. But I guess it
Speaker 20: feels good to hit a thousand.
Speaker 4: And really, like you mentioned nine to ninety the year before,
Speaker 4: almost two thousand yards rushing, what you went over one thousands,
Speaker 4: So about two thousand yards rushing in a two season stretch.
Speaker 4: It speaks to consistency, and I think that's the definition
Speaker 4: of Chase Brown. I think you are as consistent of
Speaker 4: football players not only does this year's team and this
Speaker 4: team has had, but that I've ever seen. I mean,
Speaker 4: you go out and take care of business, try my
Speaker 4: best to do my job. Yeah, I mean, what where
Speaker 4: does that come from? Is that just the way you
Speaker 4: were you were raised, the way you were brought up,
Speaker 4: the way you approach everything.
Speaker 20: I think as a professional, the most important thing is consistency.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 8: You don't want to go out.
Speaker 20: One year, have a good year, and then come back
Speaker 20: the next one and flunk it. So I think the
Speaker 20: most important thing is putting in.
Speaker 21: The work to be able.
Speaker 11: To be consistent.
Speaker 20: So I think the best part, too, is I think
Speaker 20: the overall quality.
Speaker 3: Of what.
Speaker 20: You know I put out there on tape was much
Speaker 20: better than last year. So I feel like I took
Speaker 20: a step forward.
Speaker 3: But it sucks.
Speaker 20: Because you know, you want to you want to play
Speaker 20: in the postseason. That's kind of probably be how I
Speaker 20: finish everything here is you want to be in the postseason,
Speaker 20: and it sucks that we're not there, And you know
Speaker 20: we'll figure out a way to do that this offseason
Speaker 20: and come back next You're a better team.
Speaker 4: I know you take great pride in your performance. Take
Speaker 4: great pride and being a pro get take great pride
Speaker 4: and being a Cincinnati Bengal. And the thing that, again
Speaker 4: is the most impressive thing to me is how complete
Speaker 4: you are as a running back. I mean, you run
Speaker 4: the ball great, like the numbers show it, but you're
Speaker 4: also a great receiver of the football. You run great routes.
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow trust you, respects you. You catch the football,
Speaker 4: you tuck it away, you don't turn it over. You're
Speaker 4: a great blitz pickup guy. You stick your nose right
Speaker 4: in the chest of linebackers and safeties. What in your mind?
Speaker 4: How proud are you about being a complete football player.
Speaker 20: I think there's what's required here to play running back
Speaker 20: for the CINCINNTI Bengals. You look at everybody in our room.
Speaker 20: We're all able to run the ball. We're all able
Speaker 20: to you know, passertech. We're all able to catch the ball.
Speaker 20: So that's what we take in pride in take pride
Speaker 20: in here is you know everything that you can do.
Speaker 20: You want to be a complete back, but I mean
Speaker 20: we got we have three complete backs and even the
Speaker 20: guys on a practice squad could do it as well.
Speaker 20: So that's that's what we take pride in here as
Speaker 20: a group, and we're going to keep being that, you know,
Speaker 20: as long as we're all here in Cincinnati.
Speaker 4: Chase, congratulations on an outstanding season. I know you gave
Speaker 4: it everything you have with the Cincinnati Bengals and you
Speaker 4: did a hell of a job.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Dave. What a season for Chase Brown. You
Speaker 2: look at the numbers as they added up one thousand
Speaker 2: and nineteen yards on the ground, So cool to get
Speaker 2: over a thousand yesterday. You every four point four yards
Speaker 2: of carry, six touchdowns on the ground, sixty nine catches,
Speaker 2: almost fifteen hundred yards and yards from scrimmage, and a
Speaker 2: total of eleven touchdowns. What a heck of a season
Speaker 2: and a next step up in a level climb for
Speaker 2: Chase Brown.
Speaker 11: No doubt.
Speaker 4: Man. Well, you know when you're talking over eleven hundred
Speaker 4: yards from you know, rushing and now you throw in.
Speaker 4: He's he's a factor in the in the passing game,
Speaker 4: almost another five hundred yards. Eleven touchdowns, man, I mean
Speaker 4: that's a that's a touchdown maker right there. Chase Brown
Speaker 4: is a guy that is has been very blessed. He's
Speaker 4: he's extremely strong. He's he's very interesting in the way
Speaker 4: he's built. He's five nine five ten, probably two hund
Speaker 4: two hundred and fifteen pounds, extremely powerful, extremely quick and explosive.
Speaker 4: His first step quickness is as good as there is
Speaker 4: in the NFL. And he gets downfield in a hurry.
Speaker 4: I mean he gets north and south and he puts
Speaker 4: that foot in the ground and makes that violent cut.
Speaker 4: He's very strong in his thighs, you know, he does,
Speaker 4: works his quads, hamstrings, his cass he works everything very
Speaker 4: very hard, and he's durable. You know. He does doesn't
Speaker 4: miss games, doesn't misplays, and he can do everything. He
Speaker 4: can run it. He can run with Howard from the
Speaker 4: speed he can catch it. He runs good routes out
Speaker 4: of the backfield. Joe Burrow trusts him and respects him
Speaker 4: as a receiver. He catches the ball well, puts it away,
Speaker 4: doesn't drop. It doesn't let people punch it out of
Speaker 4: there and turn over in that regard. But and then
Speaker 4: the big thing is a lot of guys that can
Speaker 4: do the things that he does in terms of running
Speaker 4: and catching. They don't want to block. You know that
Speaker 4: that's part of the game that is foreign to them.
Speaker 4: Chase brown Man, he.
Speaker 2: Likes it.
Speaker 4: He likes the competition. He sticks his nose right in
Speaker 4: the chest of linebackers and safeties and wants to do
Speaker 4: battle with them.
Speaker 2: Still ahead the offensive line, we go up front, Ted
Speaker 2: Carris is we roll on with Bengals Line on the
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Speaker 22: We go.
Speaker 2: We're flying through our first of three big hours tonight
Speaker 2: at this season wrap up a Bengals Line of the
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Speaker 2: offensive Line, Ted Carris after the game, on the performance yesterday,
Speaker 2: the season, and what's a hit for this tea.
Speaker 22: If you had to draw up what the off season
Speaker 22: looks like in terms of what you want the franchise
Speaker 22: to do to try and help support you guys and
Speaker 22: help you get back into the postseason next year, what
Speaker 22: would you say that looks like.
Speaker 23: Well, I would say that this season is the season
Speaker 23: of the would be Kings. We come up a play
Speaker 23: short in about seven games and that's reality in the
Speaker 23: NFL six and eleven, So it's the would be year.
Speaker 23: Very grateful for all my teammates and coaches and didn't
Speaker 23: win the Battle of Ohio today.
Speaker 24: How much belief you just mentioned your coaches. How much
Speaker 24: belief do you have in this coaching staff and what
Speaker 24: gives you that belief?
Speaker 23: I love this coaching staff, I love this program, This
Speaker 23: organization does a great job.
Speaker 8: We have not won enough games these.
Speaker 23: Last three years. That falls on everybody, and I'm excited
Speaker 23: to run it back in twenty six.
Speaker 15: Do you think that's worthwhile doing at this point?
Speaker 11: Ted?
Speaker 15: Because you you're aware, you're a veteran that football, all
Speaker 15: sports are games have changed, things are going to change.
Speaker 15: Do you think there needs to be changed though?
Speaker 11: In this organization?
Speaker 6: Why you approach change?
Speaker 22: Man?
Speaker 23: I mean, like I said earlier, I mean, we're we're
Speaker 23: we're one play away, jays. I mean, it's it is
Speaker 23: what it is. It's that's this is the NFL. So
Speaker 23: you have to finish the game. And we've gosh, I've
Speaker 23: never been a part of so many drives to win
Speaker 23: and then it doesn't.
Speaker 8: I mean, that's just how the ball rolls.
Speaker 23: So no, I'm not gonna sit here and say any
Speaker 23: anything needs to be changed.
Speaker 8: We need to win ball games.
Speaker 25: Had you touched on it twice there about the widow
Speaker 25: kind of Kings or however you said it, Zach said
Speaker 25: that it was fitting the way this game came down
Speaker 25: and the way you guys lost at the end of season.
Speaker 8: How do you change that stigma.
Speaker 16: Going forward if you don't change other things.
Speaker 23: Well, we can't them score twice on defense, I mean
Speaker 23: that's our defense was playing unbelievable today, shutting them down
Speaker 23: and they had twenty yards in the first half and
Speaker 23: we're up, So that's ridiculous. Yeah, we gotta finish out games.
Speaker 23: We gotta be more productive. I thought we had.
Speaker 8: I mean stats are great, score doesn't. So that's it
Speaker 8: is what it is.
Speaker 23: And now I'm gonna sit here and pontificate on what
Speaker 23: i think needs to be changed. I think we need
Speaker 23: to everyone needs a self assess and come back grady
Speaker 23: to go.
Speaker 25: In April, speaking of self assessment, Joe burrow I said
Speaker 25: multiple times this year that this is the best offensive
Speaker 25: line he's played with.
Speaker 8: Why were you guys able to be more successful this season?
Speaker 23: I think we drilled correctly, We got a hand a
Speaker 23: hand in the run game. Guys bought in personal relationships.
Speaker 11: Everyone.
Speaker 23: I've never had so much buy in on personal relationships
Speaker 23: and friendships and going hard and not relaxing until now.
Speaker 11: Now you can.
Speaker 23: Relax at four thirty on a Sunday afternoon. We're not
Speaker 23: on until eight months, really, so I'm really proud of
Speaker 23: this offensive line.
Speaker 8: I think we have some really great young guys.
Speaker 23: I think Dalton Reisner is an absolute perfect fit for
Speaker 23: the Cincinnati Bengals offense, and I hope to see him
Speaker 23: back next year.
Speaker 24: How important would that be if he resigns?
Speaker 23: Excuse man. I think he's a great player, he's a
Speaker 23: great man. He's another veteran presence in a o line
Speaker 23: room and in an offense that can feel at times
Speaker 23: exasperated for a guard. It's very challenging if you watch
Speaker 23: the film where our guards are one on one a lot,
Speaker 23: and he's a one on one specialist. So I'm really
Speaker 23: proud of his season and excited to see what happens
Speaker 23: because he played he played his balls off this year.
Speaker 24: I'll surprised that he's bounced around now that you've played
Speaker 24: a season with him, and that he's bounced around like
Speaker 24: he has around this league, given how talented you just said, he.
Speaker 8: Is very surprised.
Speaker 23: I think we've had kind of a similar career path
Speaker 23: where we have a lot of one year deals. I mean,
Speaker 23: he's had to be on the street a little bit
Speaker 23: longer sometimes and after meeting him, Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 23: when this it's this league, so it's a business. But
Speaker 23: I would say, not only did he meet expectations, he
Speaker 23: exceeded everything I thought who he was as a man,
Speaker 23: as a player.
Speaker 8: So he's a huge part of.
Speaker 11: The OWL line room.
Speaker 8: So I'll hope to see him back.
Speaker 2: Ted Carris after the game and Dave, we talked throughout
Speaker 2: the season about the importance of Ted Kerris, his presence
Speaker 2: not just in the huddle and on that offensive line,
Speaker 2: but in the in the locker room. And I wonder
Speaker 2: also as a former offensive lineman, how big has it
Speaker 2: been that that Ted also has Fairchild and Reisner who've
Speaker 2: kind of solidified the guard positions on each side of him.
Speaker 4: How big is that? Yeah, it is big. You know,
Speaker 4: and the one thing that's one thing that you look for.
Speaker 4: I remember as a player, you know, playing next to
Speaker 4: Anthony Munos was easy because he was the greatest player
Speaker 4: to ever played, first first ballot Hall of Famer, you know.
Speaker 4: I mean, he's he's wearing that gold jacket and he's
Speaker 4: a great ambassador for the Pro Football Hall of Fame
Speaker 4: up there in Canton. Ohiwe But I mean when you
Speaker 4: start playing next to each other for a good number
Speaker 4: of snaps, it's like you know exactly what the other
Speaker 4: guy's going to do. How's he going to handle that
Speaker 4: end penetrating tackle, twisting behind, how's he going to handle
Speaker 4: the opposite tackle penetrating and twisting inside? And those kind
Speaker 4: of things are very very important to be able to
Speaker 4: be on the same page and not questioning and not
Speaker 4: have any doubts, say, how is he going to do that? Now,
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, you're too late. I mean, the
Speaker 4: stunt to twist is unfolded, and you're you're chasing, you're
Speaker 4: chasing it, and you're chasing it right to the quarterback
Speaker 4: who's getting drilled and getting thrown to the ground. So
Speaker 4: I think that Ted is very, very gifted in that
Speaker 4: area in terms of coordinating and communicating up front with
Speaker 4: the offensive line. He's brilliant in terms of doesn't make
Speaker 4: assignment mistakes, and that's that's always key. You don't want
Speaker 4: to be blocking the wrong people or and he makes
Speaker 4: the calls. You don't want to make calls that dictate
Speaker 4: having people block the wrong people. And Joe Burrow Ted krrass,
Speaker 4: Joe Borrow thinks Ted Carrass is finally important to this
Speaker 4: football team.
Speaker 2: Good stuff one hour in the books, More good stuff
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Speaker 2: hour with Zach Taylor and Joe Burrow and cam Sample,
Speaker 2: Chase Brown and Ted Carris Let's lead off our two
Speaker 2: with Jamar Chase Yesterday targeted ten times, had eight catches
Speaker 2: ninety six yards in a touchdowns. In the season wrap up,
Speaker 2: he held court after the game here, or is Jamar Chase?
Speaker 26: You gotta be disciplined on on the penalties like we
Speaker 26: had today?
Speaker 16: You know, just execute.
Speaker 26: That's the biggest thing, Exeque when we have the opportunities
Speaker 26: and our defense gotta make place.
Speaker 19: How disappointed are you with this season?
Speaker 26: It's disappointing the way how I go. Hell yeah, of course, yeah,
Speaker 26: it's disappointing the way how it went. But you know
Speaker 26: it's it's everything happens for a reason at the end
Speaker 26: of the day, and you gotta sit here and just
Speaker 26: think about the season, how I win and just see
Speaker 26: what to see what we're wrong.
Speaker 23: Zach was asked about message to the team right locking
Speaker 23: him and he said, this lost wasting for you guys
Speaker 23: this year.
Speaker 16: What are your thoughts on You said it was fitting? Yeah, well,
Speaker 16: what does that mean?
Speaker 8: Like if that's what we had?
Speaker 24: Zach go to sac said and it was fitting, like
Speaker 24: the way you guys lost the game.
Speaker 16: I don't even know what that means.
Speaker 27: If I'm being honestly, it ain't appropriate.
Speaker 19: He he thought that this was an appropriate way for
Speaker 19: the season, and given how you guys, Yeah, and you
Speaker 19: lost in game.
Speaker 11: See you couldn't finish.
Speaker 16: I gotta keep that question with him. It's not that's
Speaker 16: not something for me.
Speaker 13: You don't sound like you're happy with that description. I
Speaker 13: don't like losing.
Speaker 26: I'm I'm I don't know how this works, you know
Speaker 26: what I'm saying. Maybe that's probably say that for a
Speaker 26: draft pick or something, but I don't.
Speaker 8: Know how that works. So i'm'a stay in my lane.
Speaker 16: How happy are you that this season has finally come.
Speaker 2: To a hand.
Speaker 7: It's been at must less brutal season.
Speaker 26: Uh, it's been a roller coaster I I I think
Speaker 26: I'm just when I was happy about just getting through
Speaker 26: the season and not being injured.
Speaker 11: I think that's the biggest thing for me.
Speaker 19: When you reflect on this season tomorrow, what will you
Speaker 19: take from it personally?
Speaker 20: I don't know.
Speaker 16: I didn't really take nothing personal from me, you know
Speaker 16: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I was this year.
Speaker 26: I didn't put myself first, trying to be a team
Speaker 26: leader and just be a captain and stuff like that.
Speaker 16: So I didn't I didn't put myself.
Speaker 11: First at all.
Speaker 16: Bre you tomorrow.
Speaker 28: What's the process looked like over the next few weeks
Speaker 28: a month or so, now that the season is over.
Speaker 26: I'm gonna go to cant Coon like everybody told me
Speaker 26: to do, and I'm gonna enjoy it myself cause I'm
Speaker 26: I don't have nothing else to do, so taking myself there,
Speaker 26: does Zach and this.
Speaker 18: Coaching staff still have your unmost confidence.
Speaker 26: I am very confident in myself. I'm confident and the
Speaker 26: places they call for me to get open.
Speaker 7: Are you guys who watches the playoffs and Super Bowl?
Speaker 28: Or do you just have to get totally get out
Speaker 28: of football right at this.
Speaker 26: Point, I watched it a little bit. I I get
Speaker 26: mad watching it, but I still watch it a little bit.
Speaker 7: You've known now for a few weeks that you guys
Speaker 7: aren't call the playoffs.
Speaker 8: It's since like it has for a few weeks.
Speaker 3: Is it going to motivate or drive.
Speaker 13: The team so you can't have this again next year?
Speaker 16: I mean everybody should be motivated.
Speaker 26: Who's been on the team the past three years, they
Speaker 26: know how it's been they know what they do.
Speaker 16: At the end of the day. If I can't.
Speaker 26: If I'm gonna say this, if if you're going into
Speaker 26: the off season you're not motivated from what happened this
Speaker 26: past season, shouldn't be on the team.
Speaker 16: You shouldn't play football, period. So that's my that's not
Speaker 16: saying about that.
Speaker 19: Do you think that's the same same can be said
Speaker 19: to the front office and ownership that they have to
Speaker 19: be motivated, they have.
Speaker 15: To be willing to do things to change as well.
Speaker 19: Oh yeah, yeah, can you have any energy, any suggestions,
Speaker 19: any clue not doing that right now?
Speaker 7: Are you happy with your final undress? They're big again
Speaker 7: this year, one hundred and twenty five.
Speaker 13: Catches, fourteen hundred yards.
Speaker 16: I mean catches that I have to Oh, I was
Speaker 16: too off. Yeah, man, I'm guess I'm satisfied. I was
Speaker 16: really wanted to score my last last game, so I mean,
Speaker 16: I'm fine.
Speaker 6: I'm cool.
Speaker 13: It's a good note to end the season and what
Speaker 13: you thought was a team winning touchdown.
Speaker 11: Ken m m.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 16: But I wasn't even too happy after, like I was.
Speaker 21: There was a lot going on on my part.
Speaker 16: But you know, as long as I was still there
Speaker 16: for the team and had my energy up that I'm.
Speaker 15: Fine, You're I'm sure what was going on.
Speaker 16: I was a little angry.
Speaker 26: I was pissed why. I can't say, I'm not saying why,
Speaker 26: but I was pissed though, for for sure, I was pissed.
Speaker 8: For sure, there were some people who were upset.
Speaker 7: You seem to be one pointing down the field when
Speaker 7: the Browns were celebrating the sound.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I don't think they can do that.
Speaker 26: I never knew you could let the whole team get
Speaker 26: on your field. That's like, that's like me catching the
Speaker 26: fifth pass and the whole team run on the field.
Speaker 16: We can get flat. We can't.
Speaker 26: You can't do that, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 26: congrassing him and everything, but you know, they got to
Speaker 26: call it flagg unplay.
Speaker 29: Like you guys have trying to go in the game.
Speaker 16: We're trying to hurry up too. We couldn't even hurry up.
Speaker 16: The rest was looking at us like we did something
Speaker 16: wrong the whole time.
Speaker 11: So it was I don't know what was going.
Speaker 6: On on our player.
Speaker 7: I can't think you had any kind of explanation of
Speaker 7: why it stopped it?
Speaker 16: Um No, I mean, do you interview the refs.
Speaker 7: Apparently, Zach said the rest told him after the fact
Speaker 7: that they had decided they were going to stop the game,
Speaker 7: but never in full, which you mean stops the game,
Speaker 7: stop the game to let them celebrate them.
Speaker 16: They better stop the game when I do something on
Speaker 16: my background.
Speaker 6: That's all I got to say about.
Speaker 2: That, Dave. Jamar Chase winds up with one hundred and
Speaker 2: twenty five catches for fourteen hundred and twelve yards and
Speaker 2: eight touchdowns. Let's consider those are incredible numbers. He missed
Speaker 2: one game, obviously because of the suspension. He was part
Speaker 2: of the stretch where it was really rough for Jake
Speaker 2: Browning for three weeks when he took over, and through
Speaker 2: all of that, Jamar Chase has one hundred and twenty
Speaker 2: five catches. I mean, I think all season long, we
Speaker 2: knew week to week how good he is. When the
Speaker 2: season ends and you look and see one hundred and
Speaker 2: twenty five after all of that, unbelievable it is.
Speaker 11: It's crazy.
Speaker 4: I mean, one hundred and twenty five catches, twelve hundred
Speaker 4: plus yards, eight touchdowns.
Speaker 8: He is.
Speaker 4: He's a machine.
Speaker 11: I mean, he really is.
Speaker 4: I mean, Jamar Chase is in my mind, the best player, well,
Speaker 4: I'd say, if not the best player, he's in the
Speaker 4: top three to five. But the best wide receiver in
Speaker 4: the National Football League bar none, and I think the
Speaker 4: best wide receiver in Bengals history. He is an athletic freak,
Speaker 4: a freak azoid. His size speed ratio is off the charts.
Speaker 4: He's got unbelievable upper body strength that's in the weight room.
Speaker 4: He loves to lift man. I mean, I think for
Speaker 4: a wide receiver, the wide receiver position, they're kind of
Speaker 4: allergic because the weight and a lot of them, you know,
Speaker 4: they don't want to get in there and get after it.
Speaker 4: But Joey Bosse does a good job, and Jamar Chase
Speaker 4: loves it. He loved it at LSU. He was a
Speaker 4: big weight room guy at LSU free weights. Same here
Speaker 4: at the Cincinnati Bengals. T Higgins has got this cuts
Speaker 4: from the same cloth. He likes to go in there
Speaker 4: and lift weights and he's a big, long, strong body guy.
Speaker 4: So but Joe Borrow and Jamar Chase, they've done it
Speaker 4: since the LSU days, and they know each other cold.
Speaker 4: I mean, Joe knows exactly what Jamar is thinking. Joe
Speaker 4: knows when he throws the football, Jamar is going to
Speaker 4: be where he's supposed to be when he's supposed to
Speaker 4: be there, doing what he's supposed to do. And that
Speaker 4: trust and respect, like we talked about before, is huge.
Speaker 4: And I think I mean Jamar triple crown guy. He
Speaker 4: didn't get the triple Crown, fell short of that in
Speaker 4: terms of the touchdown catches, but this guy is going
Speaker 4: to put up ridiculous numbers, stupid numbers for a long
Speaker 4: time because he takes care of himself.
Speaker 2: Anytime, you've got a wide receiver room with Jamar, Chase
Speaker 2: and t Higgins your set, but you can always use
Speaker 2: that third element, and that's been Andre, that's been Mitch Tinsley.
Speaker 2: If there's a next level of probably consistency for each
Speaker 2: of those who are maybe an outside element brought in,
Speaker 2: they I think they could stand to get even more
Speaker 2: production from that third wide receiver.
Speaker 4: I agree on hundred thousand percent with you, Lance, and
Speaker 4: I think you know they'll probably look at the draft
Speaker 4: and see what might be there and is a little
Speaker 4: bit better than what we're talking about, and then you
Speaker 4: throw the tight end position. Kasiki is such a web.
Speaker 4: I think Kasicki is probably the third option a lot
Speaker 4: of times for Joe, you know, I mean, I think
Speaker 4: he's if the first two are taken away and they're
Speaker 4: say they're playing you know, cover two, and they're rolling
Speaker 4: both safeties out to the wide receivers to take them away.
Speaker 4: Mike is SICKI in the middle of football field's not
Speaker 4: a bad option for Joe Burrow and he likes that.
Speaker 4: And Gasicki's big, tall, you know, like a you know,
Speaker 4: a beacon light, like a lighthouse out in the middle
Speaker 4: of the ocean. And he's got He's very athletic, he
Speaker 4: is flexible, he's tall, he's got length, he's got very
Speaker 4: strong hands. He puts the football away, runs excellent routes.
Speaker 4: The Bengals are blessed to have him at the tight
Speaker 4: end position. They're blessed really with the weapons that they
Speaker 4: have for Joe Borrow to throw to. And it's smart
Speaker 4: to have weapons for Joe Burrow to throw to, because
Speaker 4: he's the best in the business.
Speaker 2: Perfect segue is still ahead into more on the tight
Speaker 2: end position. A guy who kind of flies under the radar,
Speaker 2: just does his job. Drew sample. As we continue with
Speaker 2: Bengals line and the Bengals Radio Network, and seven hundred WLW. Hey,
Speaker 2: welcome back in on Bengals Line and this Monday night,
Speaker 2: we're picking up the pieces from yesterday and putting the
Speaker 2: pieces together for the off season and what's ahead for
Speaker 2: this team on Bengals Line and the Bengals Radio Network
Speaker 2: in seven hundred wil on Lance Pocallister, he is Dave Lapham.
Speaker 2: Let's get perspective a little bit deeper on the tight
Speaker 2: end side of things. Drew Sample after the game, talked
Speaker 2: with Dan Horde and the media.
Speaker 13: You guys didn't let Miles Garrett dominate the game. You
Speaker 13: had a lot to do with that. The Miles Garrett
Speaker 13: factor is real, though. Can you talk about just how
Speaker 13: he impacts the offense?
Speaker 30: Yeah, I mean, obviously he if it's someone you're not,
Speaker 30: he's someone that if you're not aware of on every play,
Speaker 30: he can you know, change the game. And so you know,
Speaker 30: being a divisional opponent, we obviously as seem twice here,
Speaker 30: so you know each game is a challenge with that
Speaker 30: and we understand you know, the game record that he
Speaker 30: is and that he can be and I think you've
Speaker 30: seen that, you know, with his sack numbers everything throughout
Speaker 30: the season, we'll have you know, they'll play teams that
Speaker 30: maybe don't see him as much. Andy'll have you know,
Speaker 30: two three, four sacks or whatever it may be. So
Speaker 30: they don't you know, sometimes they don't understand like how
Speaker 30: big of a you know record he could be. So
Speaker 30: I mean that's that's a part of the plan. They
Speaker 30: have a really good defense, you know, they they challenge you.
Speaker 30: They have good front, seven good dbs.
Speaker 11: You know, we've.
Speaker 30: Typically battled battled with them over the years, and we've
Speaker 30: been fortunate to come out on top the last you know,
Speaker 30: I think four or five times.
Speaker 11: You know, they're able to get us this week.
Speaker 13: You guys throw a lot of short passes, check downs.
Speaker 13: You caught a few of those. I assume you have
Speaker 13: to do that against Cleveland because of that threat. If
Speaker 13: you don't, he is going to get to your quarterback.
Speaker 11: Right Yeah.
Speaker 30: I mean I think some of that too is you know,
Speaker 30: them trying to you know, they play out a man
Speaker 30: mixing coverages, so you're trying to toe the line of like, hey,
Speaker 30: let's go let our guys win, but also understanding that
Speaker 30: they're you know, and Joe does a great job of that,
Speaker 30: having kind of that internal clock and you know, going
Speaker 30: through the progression the way he needs to go through
Speaker 30: it to you know, look for our playmakers and then
Speaker 30: if nothing's there, knowing that he's either got to get
Speaker 30: out or dump it down to the running back, tight end,
Speaker 30: whoever it may be. And I thought, you know, he
Speaker 30: did a good job of that really the whole game.
Speaker 30: You know, was able to kind of spin out a
Speaker 30: one early maybe, and then you know, just kind of
Speaker 30: wasn't able to get out on the one that he
Speaker 30: did get.
Speaker 13: The outcome is obviously disappointing, But as an offense and
Speaker 13: you end the season with what you think at least
Speaker 13: is a game winning drive, is that a good note
Speaker 13: to end on.
Speaker 30: I mean, obviously we didn't win, so that's obviously, you know,
Speaker 30: it's tough. And then when you look at you know,
Speaker 30: I think it was you know, we gave him fourteen points,
Speaker 30: So I mean, yes, there are things within the game
Speaker 30: obviously where you know, you bounce back and you go
Speaker 30: down and you know, you go up at the end.
Speaker 30: Obviously that's great, but you know there's there's definitely just
Speaker 30: a lot of stuff to clean up from our end,
Speaker 30: and and you know, I thought the defense played well
Speaker 30: for you know, ninety percent of the game, so I think,
Speaker 30: I mean that they scored what ten points without our
Speaker 30: fourteen or whatever.
Speaker 13: It was six points on offense for them.
Speaker 30: Right, So you know, I think that's definitely something that
Speaker 30: we got to look at and how we can fix
Speaker 30: those things because obviously that's happened to us a couple
Speaker 30: of times this year. But yeah, I mean, there was
Speaker 30: definitely some good drives in there. There was some good
Speaker 30: stuff and we got into a rhythm, but the turnovers
Speaker 30: killed us.
Speaker 13: For the coaching staff and sideline appeared to be incensed
Speaker 13: when they were allowed to celebrate after my one sack.
Speaker 13: You're not supposed to be allowed to come charging off
Speaker 13: the sideline, did you guys you know, want to snap
Speaker 13: the ball and move there.
Speaker 30: I mean, it's something where initially you just see, got
Speaker 30: a lot of guys on the field, so it's all,
Speaker 30: let's stop the ball, and then you kind of see
Speaker 30: I guess they're celebrating, and then I guess they're letting
Speaker 30: them celebrate. So I mean, obviously it's a great accomplishment,
Speaker 30: but I don't, you know, I'm not gonna I'm not
Speaker 30: gonna comment on that. I mean, I you know, obviously
Speaker 30: that's a you know, big record for him. We were
Speaker 30: trying to obviously not let him get the record, and
Speaker 30: he got it. So I guess if we didn't want that,
Speaker 30: we you know, I don't know. He's a good player
Speaker 30: and obviously had a great year.
Speaker 13: You guys don't want to be in this position next year,
Speaker 13: and there's talent on this team that's gonna put you
Speaker 13: in a position to have a great season next year.
Speaker 13: What's the key? What what must you guys do better
Speaker 13: to avoid missing the playoffs next year?
Speaker 11: It's your question.
Speaker 30: I mean, off the top of my head, I think, uh,
Speaker 30: I think just being maybe more consistent, just whether that's
Speaker 30: throughout games, throughout drives, just you know, we went through
Speaker 30: some really great stretches, were in rhythm and we're you know,
Speaker 30: moving the ball well and everything's kind of clicking. And
Speaker 30: there was obviously games this year too where it was
Speaker 30: hard to get things going, whether that was you know,
Speaker 30: it's hard to get the run game going, or it
Speaker 30: was hard to get the pass game, you know, just
Speaker 30: a collection of things. At one point it felt like
Speaker 30: in our games that we lost or played poorly, and
Speaker 30: that was kind of the The thing is just not
Speaker 30: being able to get in a rhythm and be consistent,
Speaker 30: and even being consistent game to game. You know, obviously
Speaker 30: the NFL is tough and teams play us sometimes differently
Speaker 30: than than other teams. So but I think I think
Speaker 30: that just off the top of my head, just trying
Speaker 30: to be more consistent and trying to you know, obviously
Speaker 30: you always want to limit you know, negative plays, penalties, turnovers,
Speaker 30: things of that nature, and if I like in some
Speaker 30: of our losses that those were kind of things that
Speaker 30: bubbled up a little bit. So I mean, I'm sure everyone,
Speaker 30: you know, everyone hates the taste in our mouth. You know,
Speaker 30: obviously we had a good little two games, lost this game,
Speaker 30: and but we're nowhere near where we want to be.
Speaker 30: And so I think, you know, everyone's gonna look in
Speaker 30: the mirror first, you know, coaches, players, everyone, and then
Speaker 30: you know, we'll come back and reset and come back
Speaker 30: in the offseason and kind of figure out what needs
Speaker 30: to be.
Speaker 13: Done, enjoy some R and R and some family time.
Speaker 11: We'll see it.
Speaker 13: Ot s.
Speaker 11: Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2: Drew Sample after the game, and Dave I said it
Speaker 2: leading into leading into the end of the last segment.
Speaker 2: Drew Sample is a guy who maybe will never be
Speaker 2: an All pro, won't put up like large numbers in
Speaker 2: a fantasy football tight end. But he's one of those guys,
Speaker 2: it seems like, and every team needs these guys. You
Speaker 2: can just plug him in there and not have to
Speaker 2: worry about him. He's gonna do the things that need
Speaker 2: to be done. They won't be headline grabbing or spectacular,
Speaker 2: but when they aren't done, you say, man, we really
Speaker 2: missed that. He just gets the He's one of those
Speaker 2: little thing, lunch bucket type of guys. That's a long
Speaker 2: way of saying I have much appreciation for him.
Speaker 4: You know, I think I think you've hit on it,
Speaker 4: and that's the bottom line. I think he's he's one
Speaker 4: of those guys that that does the dirty work and
Speaker 4: James Casey loves him, man, because James Casey was that
Speaker 4: kind of guy. You know, he he did, he did
Speaker 4: the dirty work and whatever the team needs. You need
Speaker 4: a guy to line up at the end line of
Speaker 4: scrimmage and be basically a third offensive tackle. That's Drew Sample.
Speaker 4: You have a guy that you want to line up
Speaker 4: at full back and run, uh you know, almost an
Speaker 4: eye formation with isolation blocker up front of the tailback,
Speaker 4: that's Drew Sample. You want a guy that you can
Speaker 4: motion from one side of the formation to the other
Speaker 4: from the tight end positions, Drew Sample. Now put him
Speaker 4: out in the slot and out as a as a
Speaker 4: wide out, an excerasi.
Speaker 8: That's not his strength.
Speaker 4: He can do it, but that's not his Uh, that's
Speaker 4: not basically what Drew Sample is all about.
Speaker 13: Uh.
Speaker 4: That's for Gasiki and others. But I do think that
Speaker 4: that Drew Sample is has a definite role on this
Speaker 4: football team. And I think he's one of those guys
Speaker 4: that he's an unsung hero. Bottom line, I think his
Speaker 4: teammates would say that, yeah, you know, we're not the
Speaker 4: same football team without Drew Sample.
Speaker 2: He he's part of a room. And we mentioned Mike
Speaker 2: is sicky and Tanner Hudson is Yeah.
Speaker 28: Right.
Speaker 2: I felt bad yesterday. On a final note, I hate
Speaker 2: it ended on a negative note. No Offan fumbled for
Speaker 2: the third time this year, and each one has been
Speaker 2: returned for a touchdown, which seems like a statistical impossibility.
Speaker 4: That's mind blowing.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 4: It's mind blowing. It's it's almost like, stay away from
Speaker 4: Noah Man. He's got some.
Speaker 11: Bad juju going on.
Speaker 4: You know, it's like jeez, every time it's on the ground,
Speaker 4: he's picked up and going the other way for a touchdown.
Speaker 4: That is uh, that's crazy. No offense, he doesn't he
Speaker 4: doesn't want to be that answer that guy that said
Speaker 4: the answer to the trivia question, you know, because yes,
Speaker 4: that is that's a good trivia question.
Speaker 2: No doubt. All right, hang tag more to get to
Speaker 2: we'll hear from Joseph Osai as we continue Bengals Line
Speaker 2: of the Bengals Radio Network in seven hundred WLW. We
Speaker 2: keep moving right along on this Monday night of Bengals
Speaker 2: Line at the Bengals Radio networking seven hundred double l W. Wait,
Speaker 2: flip the tweet offense and defense. Let's go back to
Speaker 2: the defense and to the edge. Wayne box Miller in
Speaker 2: the pregame made Joseph o side part of his conversation.
Speaker 2: He wrapped up unfortunately with an injury yesterday and I playing,
Speaker 2: but wrapped up a heck of a season overall with
Speaker 2: five sacks in a season that takes him into free agency.
Speaker 2: Here is Joseph Osai on the season with the Wayne
Speaker 2: box Miller.
Speaker 31: I got to tell you, man, I've been looking at
Speaker 31: the pictures online and the fashion and that the dapper approach.
Speaker 29: Talk to me about that style.
Speaker 21: Man, Man, I appreciate that. There's definitely a lot of
Speaker 21: I thought that goes into that. With my team, you know,
Speaker 21: I got a tailor and then I got a couple
Speaker 21: of guys in New York that keep me, keep me fresh,
Speaker 21: you know what I mean. So, yeah, it's a preparation work.
Speaker 21: We're doing the off season, so there's not a lot
Speaker 21: to do in during the season. And then during the season,
Speaker 21: my Taylor will pop down every now and then.
Speaker 11: His name is Pharaoh.
Speaker 21: Actually plugging him right now, you know, I want to
Speaker 21: get my guy some recognition. His name is Pharaoh, and
Speaker 21: he'll pop down even now and during the season and
Speaker 21: checking with me, clean up some measurements and and just
Speaker 21: to make sure we're on the same page with the
Speaker 21: with the outfits.
Speaker 31: Is that something that maybe is a post career type
Speaker 31: move to get into this, you.
Speaker 29: Know what I mean?
Speaker 6: You know what I mean?
Speaker 29: It could it could be, It could be.
Speaker 21: You know, there's there's obviously, uh the blessing that one
Speaker 21: of the many blessings of this game is when you
Speaker 21: get out the game, you have so many different avenues
Speaker 21: to you could you could you could tap into uh,
Speaker 21: based on the connections and the things you dapped into
Speaker 21: when when you were playing. So that's that's could be
Speaker 21: one of them. We'll have to see circumstances, situation. If
Speaker 21: I'm raising the family, it'll be a little tougher, you know,
Speaker 21: as if if I wasn't. So uh, we'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 21: It's it's I'm definitely keeping that door open.
Speaker 28: Though.
Speaker 31: One thing I remember about you when you got here
Speaker 31: is talk about the relationship with your sister and the house.
Speaker 29: She inspired you, and is.
Speaker 31: She still sending you quotes and keeping you going now
Speaker 31: and there?
Speaker 21: And now see she's expanding that to the to the
Speaker 21: family because you know, my little brothers, one of them
Speaker 21: was in the CFL he just got done. And then
Speaker 21: in case she just got picked up by the dolphin.
Speaker 21: She was saying, Bible coats in there and she was
Speaker 21: saying all that. And she even I think last year
Speaker 21: she wrote on my mirror with some posted you know,
Speaker 21: some affirmations.
Speaker 11: All that stuff.
Speaker 21: So she's she's great, man.
Speaker 29: She is talk about how to helps you.
Speaker 31: I mean, you know, you're a faithfeeled person. I'm a
Speaker 31: faithfuled person and having that information reminders that you're not
Speaker 31: walking this walk along, walking.
Speaker 21: Along, and one of them just say it says open
Speaker 21: your eyes and realize that God has not left you.
Speaker 21: He has been with you this whole time. So you know,
Speaker 21: just again, when when you're down and you can know
Speaker 21: those words by heart, but it's different when you when
Speaker 21: you're down and then you're in the bathroom and you
Speaker 21: read it, or when you're down and you look on
Speaker 21: your phone and you read it. So I'm super big
Speaker 21: on mentor I know DJ DJ has even helped me
Speaker 21: take it a step further this year with meditation, you know,
Speaker 21: and just positively speaking to yourself because even though you're
Speaker 21: not saying it out loud in your head, you're speaking
Speaker 21: to yourself all day every day, so you hear yourself
Speaker 21: the most. So why not be positive? Why not let
Speaker 21: that voice ahead all day be positive? And those affirmations
Speaker 21: of speaking speaking positivity. Just I don't know how to
Speaker 21: explain it. I don't know the science behind it.
Speaker 29: But it works to works.
Speaker 21: Yeah, sure, yeah we do, so it works. And just again,
Speaker 21: I would say another thing, who is having a partner
Speaker 21: doesn't have to be an intimate partner, but just having
Speaker 21: a partner that you can share that with and keep
Speaker 21: keep keep each other accountable, uplift each other. Because you're
Speaker 21: not supposed to have the answers twenty four seven, three
Speaker 21: hundred and sixty five days a year. You're not supposed
Speaker 21: to have the answers all the time. But someone on
Speaker 21: a day where you're feeling down could get you up.
Speaker 21: Or in a day when someone else is feeling now,
Speaker 21: you can get them up. And you know what I mean,
Speaker 21: just human beings, we're not meant to be alone. We're
Speaker 21: meant to have a little congregation and little community. So
Speaker 21: find find that community. Find find one or two people
Speaker 21: that you can be in community with.
Speaker 31: All right, I do something new this year called the
Speaker 31: Gratitude Games. All that year, three people you're grateful for,
Speaker 31: two things that have impacted you, and then one thing
Speaker 31: you're hopeful for. So if I say three people that
Speaker 31: impacted you, who would that be?
Speaker 21: Three people that impacted me? I'm just gonna go ahead
Speaker 21: and say, with my NFL career, three people that have
Speaker 21: impacted me. I would go with Trey Hendrickson, with the
Speaker 21: way he's took me under his wing. I would go
Speaker 21: with Sam Hubbard. He showed me how to come in
Speaker 21: day in and day out and and give give the
Speaker 21: same effort. Thirdly, I would say Coach Duff, my coach
Speaker 21: last year. He's just the positivity he brought every day,
Speaker 21: the affirmations you brought every day, the the the consistency
Speaker 21: he brought every day, you know. And I can go on.
Speaker 21: I can go with bj I can go with cam
Speaker 21: the community of cam Sample. I can go with my
Speaker 21: friends down in downtown at Frankie Ships and Savories, you.
Speaker 11: Know, I can.
Speaker 21: I can go on. And I can go with my
Speaker 21: girlfriend and go with my sister and my family.
Speaker 11: So I got a village.
Speaker 29: I got a village.
Speaker 21: And that's why I'm so thankful and grateful to God,
Speaker 21: you know, for this blessing and my walk is though
Speaker 21: it's been tough, you know, Like I said, it's helped
Speaker 21: me build a village of people that can that could
Speaker 21: be there with me.
Speaker 29: Yea, let's talk about two things that have impacted you.
Speaker 21: Two things that impacted me.
Speaker 11: I would say my one, my injuries. Good.
Speaker 21: You know, anything good or bad once you're a child
Speaker 21: of God, it is for your good, it's for your betterment.
Speaker 11: I think in the Bible.
Speaker 21: Don't quote me, uh specifically, but it says it says,
Speaker 21: be thankful when you when you face.
Speaker 31: Be thankful James one, Chapter one, consider yourself, you know
Speaker 31: what I mean, when you go through times.
Speaker 21: So I really try to sit with that and all
Speaker 21: my everything I go through, my injuries, my my whatever
Speaker 21: in life that impacts me in in a way because
Speaker 21: it helps me grow, like I come out of it stronger,
Speaker 21: I would say that. And just my new relationship, you know,
Speaker 21: I just I'm recently, I recently you know I have
Speaker 21: a girlfriend. Now, you know, I try I call my wife.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 21: Quote me, unquote me, I don't know, Uh, I call
Speaker 21: it my wife. But because that's truly what it is.
Speaker 21: We the way we are involved in each other's life
Speaker 21: and how we how she builds me up, How she
Speaker 21: builds me up, how she how she's willing to stand
Speaker 21: in that gap for me, how she's willing to make
Speaker 21: sure I'm okay with being vulnerable with her, you know
Speaker 21: what I mean, and then at times helping me learn
Speaker 21: how to be stronger for her. So she's been a
Speaker 21: huge impact in my life. And that's why right now,
Speaker 21: which is that's my girlfriend, but I call it my
Speaker 21: wife because she has all the attributes.
Speaker 11: She's not waiting till just.
Speaker 21: A ring on it to to to do the things
Speaker 21: that really matter, you know what I mean. So she's
Speaker 21: been a really big impact. And yeah, that's.
Speaker 29: It all right, bro. Always appreciation man, man, thank.
Speaker 11: You for having me.
Speaker 2: Joseph Osai summing up his season and Dave, he's twenty eight,
Speaker 2: twenty six. He's one of those guys who feels like
Speaker 2: he's been around for a long time. He's four years
Speaker 2: in and he still is only twenty five years old.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a free agent and boy, you talk
Speaker 2: about young and productive, and it's gonna be an interesting
Speaker 2: He's gonna he's gonna command a lot of money, and
Speaker 2: if he were like an outside player, I think the
Speaker 2: Bengals would be looking at him saying we need somebody
Speaker 2: like that. So it makes for an interesting dynamic this offseason.
Speaker 2: I agree with you, Lancey right on the money right there.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's he's going to get a lot of interest.
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of teams are going to be
Speaker 2: contacting his representation, uh to see what what the deal is.
Speaker 2: But I think Joseph aside really likes Jerry Montgomery, the
Speaker 2: defensive line coach. He likes Cincinnati, he likes Zach Taylor.
Speaker 2: He likes the way the organization is being run. He
Speaker 2: likes the way he's being treated. And you look at it.
Speaker 2: Joseph A Side, Miles Murphy can sample. We haven't talked
Speaker 2: about Shamar Stewart. I mean, here's another young stud that's
Speaker 2: you know, got a lot of meat on the bone left.
Speaker 2: I mean, he he's far from the finished product. Isaiah Fosky.
Speaker 2: You know they they just brought in. He's he's on
Speaker 2: you know, a fifty three men roster guy. Will he
Speaker 2: be one of the guys next year, particularly if they
Speaker 2: draft a guy maybe not Cedric Johnson. I mean, he's
Speaker 2: developing still, he's showing, he's making plays. They do have
Speaker 2: some young talent that they can grow and develop on
Speaker 2: the edge, and that's an area that every NFL franchise
Speaker 2: wants to have a lot of depth at that defensive
Speaker 2: end position because it's one of the most important positions
Speaker 2: on the whole football team. Boy, it's such a great
Speaker 2: point about depth because if you can pull i know,
Speaker 2: whatever it is, five or six snaps away from a
Speaker 2: number of guys and give them to another guy and
Speaker 2: that just lightens your load a little bit. You're fresher
Speaker 2: late in the game.
Speaker 4: It's huge, it is, and you know, when you're not
Speaker 4: on the field and you're not getting hurt, you know,
Speaker 4: it removes that injury factor. And when you are on
Speaker 4: the field rested a little bit more because of snap's
Speaker 4: being alleviated, that minimizes the injury risk as well. So
Speaker 4: you can never have enough good edge rushers.
Speaker 2: When we continue back up front on the other side
Speaker 2: of the ball, or Land No Brown on the day
Speaker 2: and the season and the off season ahead as we continue,
Speaker 2: He's Dave lapham My Blaance Pacallister. Hey, thanks for hanging
Speaker 2: out with us tonight, Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio
Speaker 2: Network and seven hundred doublw Hey. We are moving right
Speaker 2: along on this Monday night. We do it every Monday,
Speaker 2: our final Monday of the year. Unfortunately, would have loved
Speaker 2: to playoff run, but it is what it is. So
Speaker 2: we break down the season it was, and part of
Speaker 2: that is Orlando Brown on the performance of the offensive line.
Speaker 2: Orlando after the game met with the media with his
Speaker 2: two kids on his lap and talked about what took
Speaker 2: place this season and what's ahead.
Speaker 32: You know, I hate that obviously I was a guy
Speaker 32: that yeah he broke the record on but yeah, yeah,
Speaker 32: I feel like overall, man, we had a good plan.
Speaker 7: I mean, big guys, I probably gone out of so
Speaker 7: many times in year career.
Speaker 8: That's got to be a guy you have a lot.
Speaker 11: Of man, I mean, oh yeah, a ton of respect. Man.
Speaker 32: You know, it's it's it's weird. You know, we we
Speaker 32: graduated high school the same year.
Speaker 11: You were, same age.
Speaker 32: He came out of college a year but just being
Speaker 32: in Baltimore, Casey and here, I mean, man, I might
Speaker 32: have played him twelve times.
Speaker 11: This might have been my twelfth time planer. Man, So
Speaker 11: a toend of respect for him.
Speaker 32: You know, he's a guy that works hard, does everything
Speaker 32: the right way, and he's great.
Speaker 8: Us saying what did you think of what happened?
Speaker 7: Because I don't think anybody knew that their entire bench
Speaker 7: was going to run onto the field while you guys
Speaker 7: are trying to drive and score go ahead touchdown.
Speaker 8: Did that surprise you when that happened?
Speaker 32: No, man, I think, just based off my experience, when
Speaker 32: records are broken, it's normally some type of celibatory effects.
Speaker 11: You can't. Okay, you gotta hold on the segment.
Speaker 7: I wanted to ask you because you understand the standard
Speaker 7: inside this room that it's you guys should be playing
Speaker 7: in the playoffs, if you should be competing for championships.
Speaker 7: How disappointing is it that you're going to be watching
Speaker 7: next week in the playoffs instead of playing.
Speaker 11: I don't know a little on seconds, it's disappointed, man.
Speaker 32: Like I said, I feel like we're a team that
Speaker 32: we got the star power and the firepower to be
Speaker 32: playing here meaningful, meaningful football in January, and so the
Speaker 32: fact that we haven't been for the last three years
Speaker 32: is tough.
Speaker 11: It's frustrating. But we've got to figure it out.
Speaker 33: You know.
Speaker 11: It's too many times I think over the course.
Speaker 32: Of the season that we didn't do enough, and so
Speaker 32: whatever that is we got to find.
Speaker 11: We got to find a medium and.
Speaker 32: Get better and be able to come away with wins
Speaker 32: in those situations.
Speaker 2: Orlando Brown after the game, Dave Orlando is thirty and
Speaker 2: his offensive lineman get older. I would imagine you try
Speaker 2: to compensate a little bit for age and maybe a
Speaker 2: loss of a step or so, and he seems to
Speaker 2: have gotten caught a couple of time. He's got that
Speaker 2: real quick jump off the line, and I think he's
Speaker 2: led the team in penalties with ten. He's been called
Speaker 2: for some false starts. What do you make of his
Speaker 2: performance at that age? Going forward? How do you feel
Speaker 2: how do you feel about him and this offensive line
Speaker 2: going forward?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Orlando Brown has got a great resource
Speaker 4: for his future years that he's got left in the
Speaker 4: National Football League. And his dad, Zeus Brown, who played,
Speaker 4: you know a long time, very different style of player.
Speaker 4: Zous Brown is a massive man. I'm telling you what
Speaker 4: and not that Orlando Brown's not. But I mean Zeus
Speaker 4: Brown could lift the world. It looked like he's like
Speaker 4: Atlas man. He's crazy and uh, you know, Orlando Brown says,
Speaker 4: that's my hero. I mean, my dad's my hero man
Speaker 4: because I mean he played the game in the National
Speaker 4: Football League at the level that I aspired to be.
Speaker 4: And I do think that Orlando Brown is a great
Speaker 4: leader of men, There's no question about that. Uh.
Speaker 11: He's a He's a.
Speaker 4: Great dad, great husband, great teammate, a leader of the
Speaker 4: football team, you know, captain type guy. He's got that
Speaker 4: type of personality. I think Jerry Montgomery likes him a
Speaker 4: lot as a as a football player and as a
Speaker 4: person as a leader. I do think that that Orlando
Speaker 4: probably feels like he could do a little bit more
Speaker 4: for his football team, uh than what took place this year,
Speaker 4: because they didn't make the playoffs and that's his ultimate goal.
Speaker 4: He is the epitome of a team player, There's no
Speaker 4: question about that. And if the Cincinnati Bengals don't make
Speaker 4: the playoffs, he feels like he slighted the football team.
Speaker 2: He mentioned during that conversation that Miles Garrett got him.
Speaker 2: Garrett has gotten a lot of people in his career, obviously,
Speaker 2: But I want to ask you before we wrap up
Speaker 2: this segment, because you've mentioned him before and I love
Speaker 2: your stories. Koy Bacon should not be lost in the
Speaker 2: history of Bengals pass rushers for what he did. Believe
Speaker 2: it was nineteen seventy six and unofficially before it was
Speaker 2: recognized twenty two sacks. Was what was Koy Bacon like
Speaker 2: to watch as a pass rusher?
Speaker 4: Coy Bacon was unique. The dude was hell on wheels. Man,
Speaker 4: tell me he was just one of those guys that
Speaker 4: had natural strength. I mean he didn't. He wasn't a
Speaker 4: weight room guy. I don't think I ever saw him
Speaker 4: in there.
Speaker 31: Now.
Speaker 4: I was in the weight room pretty regularly, just about
Speaker 4: every day really. But he could lift the stadium, you know,
Speaker 4: just he was just naturally gifted strong. He was born
Speaker 4: to play football, There's no doubt about it. And I
Speaker 4: remember Tiger Johnson saying, yeah, Coy Bacon, he's just one
Speaker 4: of those guys. That man, he can roll out of
Speaker 4: bed and just you know, his eyes half closed and
Speaker 4: rush the passer and get himself five sacks. He's a
Speaker 4: five sack guy. He's a handful of sack guy. And
Speaker 4: he was immense, he really was. And twenty two sacks
Speaker 4: back then, look at it. Fourteen game season, that's the thing.
Speaker 4: And they didn't throw it as much. You know, maybe
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five is a game in fourteen games as
Speaker 4: opposed to like forty forty five and you know, in
Speaker 4: seventeen games now. So the ratio there is like, you know,
Speaker 4: off the charts. And he was something else, and he
Speaker 4: liked to celebrate. He liked his he liked his bourbon,
Speaker 4: his whiskey. He was a man's man in that regard
Speaker 4: to and Koy Bacon, one of those guys that he
Speaker 4: would defend himself. Put up the dukes very quickly. You
Speaker 4: didn't want to necessarily get caught in a room by
Speaker 4: yourself with Koyen Courty Baker and the dukes were put up.
Speaker 2: I love it, I love it. Down the stretcher will
Speaker 2: go to close out our first hour or second hour.
Speaker 2: Already here from T Higgins up next Bengals line on
Speaker 2: the Bengals Radio Networking seven hundred double l W down
Speaker 2: the stretch we go, final segment of our number two type.
Speaker 2: We've saved time for T Higgins. Six catches yesterday, sixty
Speaker 2: seven yards and a touchdown. Here's t after the game.
Speaker 34: Obviously it's tough, you know, you know we put was
Speaker 34: able to put a job together at the end. But
Speaker 34: you know, got to look back at you know, the
Speaker 34: first half. Man, we two turnods, touchdowns. We don't have
Speaker 34: those turnovers. We win the game, you know what I mean?
Speaker 34: But you know I want I can't even say get
Speaker 34: back to practice and fix it. But at the end
Speaker 34: of the season, you know, it was good to have
Speaker 34: a you know, a last job like that to to
Speaker 34: end the season, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 11: So yeah, I'll take that. Bouse.
Speaker 8: Is this three years in a row, tea not to
Speaker 8: make the playoffs.
Speaker 16: It's tough.
Speaker 34: Obviously we played a game to go in championships, you
Speaker 34: know I mean, so it's tough.
Speaker 8: We can't just all.
Speaker 34: We gotta do is just come back next year and
Speaker 34: try to do it, you know.
Speaker 8: What I mean.
Speaker 7: So you're one of the guys that has an important
Speaker 7: voice on this team. Joe's talked about change, Jamar is
Speaker 7: hinted at change. Do you feel like there's a lot
Speaker 7: of change needed for this team to get back to
Speaker 7: where you need to go?
Speaker 11: Above my pay grade.
Speaker 34: I do my job, catch boss from Joe and try
Speaker 34: to try to.
Speaker 11: Help the team win games. Man, that's above my pay grade.
Speaker 24: What it looks like he's gonna be able to get
Speaker 24: you guys out of all.
Speaker 27: Back in controls.
Speaker 8: You know, just just gotta have just got to believe
Speaker 8: in them, you know what I mean. At the end
Speaker 8: of the day, we believe him.
Speaker 34: This year obviously we fell short, and you just gotta
Speaker 34: come back next year and just just keep believing in
Speaker 34: this philosophy.
Speaker 8: That I feel like they didn't have their stritting corners
Speaker 8: out there. Half the ward went down. Uh, did they
Speaker 8: do anything to take away the arm wall? They played
Speaker 8: a lot of a lot of cloud.
Speaker 34: Uh, we got a lot of a lot of cloud
Speaker 34: in in Bursa who was able to still get a
Speaker 34: few de boss, But yeah, that's what they did.
Speaker 25: Each was that about his message to the team after
Speaker 25: the game, and he said that it was kind of
Speaker 25: fitting this loss the way it went.
Speaker 8: What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 34: Oh?
Speaker 11: Yeah, I agree what I'm saying.
Speaker 34: I gonna repeat what he said because I don't know
Speaker 34: if he said that's y'all, but it was definitely fitting too.
Speaker 15: Is to make sure this stuff can happen again next year.
Speaker 11: Win win, At the end of the day, we just
Speaker 11: got a way to find a way to win.
Speaker 2: T Higgins wrapping up the season and Dave to wrap
Speaker 2: up his season fifty nine catches, eight and forty six yards,
Speaker 2: eleven touchdowns and uh, man again, back to what I
Speaker 2: said earlier. Any team that's got Jamar Chase on one
Speaker 2: side and T Higgins on the other end and Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow in between him, you've got a chance. It's just
Speaker 2: you got to take advantage of it. But man, what
Speaker 2: what a trio and what a season? By Tea with
Speaker 2: eleven touchdowns.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the thing. I mean, Chase Brown's got eleven
Speaker 4: touchdowns combined with his rushing and receiving touchdowns and T
Speaker 4: Higgins with eleven receiving touchdowns. That's a hell of a
Speaker 4: one to two punch right there in terms of scoring
Speaker 4: twenty two touchdown between the two of those guys. That's
Speaker 4: pretty prolific, that really is. But T Higgins, the thing
Speaker 4: about him not only a great player, you know that's
Speaker 4: just been blessed. The Good Lord blessed him. He knows
Speaker 4: he's been blessed. He's very humble, extremely popular with his teammates.
Speaker 4: You know, he never has a bad thing to say
Speaker 4: about anybody. They don't have a bad thing to say
Speaker 4: about him. He's just a delight to be around in
Speaker 4: the locker room. And you know that you can't put
Speaker 4: a value on that. To coaches, ownership, everybody loves to
Speaker 4: have players that are not going to be causing any
Speaker 4: kind of problems out in their community or anywhere else,
Speaker 4: and T Higgins is a great example of that.
Speaker 2: Still ahead on our third hour tonight, a little bit
Speaker 2: more on Zach on the season, a little bit more
Speaker 2: from Joe on the season. We've got fantastic fun facts
Speaker 2: we'll hear from bj Hill and we'll wrap it all
Speaker 2: up as we turn the corner to our third and
Speaker 2: final hour tonight. The show is Bengals Line. It's on
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Speaker 2: final hour tonight of Bengals Line of the Bengals Radio
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Speaker 2: with us tonight. I'm Lance McAllister. He is Dave Lapham.
Speaker 2: We've been sorting through yesterday, looking back through the season,
Speaker 2: and we'll spend some time looking ahead of the off
Speaker 2: season as well. Let's getting a little bit more from Zach.
Speaker 2: He addressed the season as a whole, in the importance
Speaker 2: of this off season after the game Zach would to look.
Speaker 12: At why you loss is one, what's the biggest reason?
Speaker 5: Sof it was it was a strange game obviously to
Speaker 5: give them fourteen points, and I felt like we had
Speaker 5: pretty good troll early in the game and had a
Speaker 5: chance to really you know, create a lot of separation
Speaker 5: and gave them fourteen points and then the defense gives
Speaker 5: up six total, you know, two field goals, and and
Speaker 5: that's got to be enough to win. And you know,
Speaker 5: you just look at there, there's little things that got us.
Speaker 5: We've missed two extra points, had two turnovers for touchdowns,
Speaker 5: and then they had a two minute drive to win
Speaker 5: the game. And it's just frustrating, and it's it's it's
Speaker 5: just frustrating.
Speaker 6: That's the biggest thing.
Speaker 5: And and then that we weren't able just to finish
Speaker 5: it in some area, finished that game and and find
Speaker 5: a way to get a win. What did you tell
Speaker 5: that's it's a little bit fitting, to be honest with you,
Speaker 5: and in terms of how our season's gone. And it
Speaker 5: doesn't make it right, doesn't make it It's just you know,
Speaker 5: several times we we've had games where we played well
Speaker 5: in different areas and we just we just haven't found
Speaker 5: a way to put it all together. And then there's
Speaker 5: been games in the last couple of weeks we had,
Speaker 5: but this is one we need to finish off, you know,
Speaker 5: a individual game, and this is how these divisional games go,
Speaker 5: and it usually comes down to a play at the end,
Speaker 5: one score game, and we just we weren't able to
Speaker 5: finish it all.
Speaker 4: What was a kind of what Cleveland was able to
Speaker 4: do to be successful and their.
Speaker 5: Final well, I mean they hit a couple of throws
Speaker 5: over there in the flat and then got a couple
Speaker 5: of chunks, and I thought we did a good job
Speaker 5: stopping them for two plays and then and then they
Speaker 5: get the one that would just kind of get them,
Speaker 5: you know, ten yards a get closer and put them a.
Speaker 6: Field goal range, and then their kicker did a great
Speaker 6: job finishing off.
Speaker 13: Wouldn't think it's been this year about not being able.
Speaker 11: To close out games.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's like you said, common Beam, there's something that
Speaker 9: you FULI on the offseason.
Speaker 5: That you could that's something that we're going to look,
Speaker 5: you know, to see here today and do that answer.
Speaker 5: It's challenging and and so we reflect back. Obviously obviously
Speaker 5: we had the answer. We would have pointed today. So
Speaker 5: that's just something we got.
Speaker 6: To really look at.
Speaker 12: Was there a thought of, I know you needed the touchdown,
Speaker 12: but the thought of taking more time off the clock
Speaker 12: it's hard.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's always you'd love to score for one second left,
Speaker 5: but it's it's challenging if you if you run it
Speaker 5: and you waisted down on a zero yard game just
Speaker 5: just for the sake of running the clock is challenging.
Speaker 6: So we've been in that situation a lot.
Speaker 5: Or sometimes we don't score on the first play and
Speaker 5: we do that, let's get points on the board, go
Speaker 5: get a stop and win the game, and.
Speaker 12: Just work out what makes it so tough.
Speaker 5: Incredibly to mean, he's he's the best player in on
Speaker 5: the defense side of the ball. He's the best player, and
Speaker 5: he recks every single play. You gotta account for him.
Speaker 5: They got a really good defensive line. They got a
Speaker 5: really good defense. Round I'm not gonna just minimize it
Speaker 5: and say that a good defensive line. It's a really
Speaker 5: good defense that's been challenging for every team they've played
Speaker 5: all season. You know, you just look at the last
Speaker 5: couple of games they played. They do a great job.
Speaker 5: They make it hard. You got to earn everything. I
Speaker 5: thought we we found some success at different points in
Speaker 5: the game and and you know, just weren't able to
Speaker 5: score more than the eighteen or whatever we scored.
Speaker 28: Happened a year that you know, you guys have had
Speaker 28: to ending of this game. You know, defense is a
Speaker 28: chance to make a play and the season on a
Speaker 28: high note. What kind of a taste does the leave
Speaker 28: just you know, having it in the way that it
Speaker 28: has so many times.
Speaker 6: Yeah, not a good one. Not a good taste.
Speaker 10: A long conversation with the officials after the Garrett sack.
Speaker 3: What was going on there?
Speaker 6: What was There's five minutes left in our season.
Speaker 5: We're playing for our lives here and I was never
Speaker 5: told that we're going to stop the game, and in
Speaker 5: a critical moment like that, and the refs just said
Speaker 5: that they made a decision that they were going to
Speaker 5: stop the game, and they said they tried to do
Speaker 5: it as quickly as possible. I didn't feel that we
Speaker 5: didn't sub We're trying to be on the ball and
Speaker 5: go and play with tempo, and the Empire just held
Speaker 5: the ball so that we couldn't do anything. And I'm
Speaker 5: yelling at Joe, get on the ball. We didn't sub
Speaker 5: we're going and then we couldn't play, And so again
Speaker 5: trying to get an answer was not easy. They just
Speaker 5: said that they made a decision as a as a
Speaker 5: crew to stop the game when that happened. I guess
Speaker 5: it didn't matter when it happened. It just they were
Speaker 5: going to stop the game. And I was never informed that.
Speaker 5: They didn't say one word. We meet with them in
Speaker 5: the ninety minute meeting before the game, they never said
Speaker 5: one word about that.
Speaker 35: How did you kind of did you approach this like
Speaker 35: a normal game for Burrow in terms.
Speaker 11: Of Week E team.
Speaker 27: You obviously played the full share of reps.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, we we We played that game to win
Speaker 5: the game, and and every decision we made, and you know,
Speaker 5: I know I was made at the sack record. And
Speaker 5: he's earned that. He has earned that. He has earned
Speaker 5: that because and I say that because we we weren't.
Speaker 5: We weren't saying we we don't want to walk out
Speaker 5: of here without him break. We just want to win
Speaker 5: the game. So we're gonna call whatever we did to
Speaker 5: win it. And but to his credit, I mean, the
Speaker 5: guy never he rarely has one on ones ever ever,
Speaker 5: And so for him to be able to do that
Speaker 5: and get that record. I didn't track the other times
Speaker 5: those records were broken, but this was unbelievable that he
Speaker 5: was able to do that with with everything that is
Speaker 5: put on him on the tape and minimized. And they
Speaker 5: don't play with leads, you know, typically, and I'm trying
Speaker 5: take a shot out and that's just the truth of
Speaker 5: it this year.
Speaker 6: So that's a credit to him. Man, He's he's earned that.
Speaker 3: Why did you choose to bring flac going on the quarterbacks?
Speaker 6: Just to bit your body there?
Speaker 5: They were really loading up the front if you saw
Speaker 5: some of the short yards plays, and Flacco is obviously
Speaker 5: a much bigger body rhythm on.
Speaker 12: The drive to put you all ahead late. What kind
Speaker 12: of baby it enables you'll to have the rhythm there
Speaker 12: wait in the second half that you maybe did earlier.
Speaker 8: In the house.
Speaker 5: I don't think we had a lot of possessions really,
Speaker 5: you know. I think that was I don't know what
Speaker 5: possession that was in the drive We had won in
Speaker 5: the third quarter if I remember correctly, and finished, you know,
Speaker 5: the quarter ended with one and so it just didn't
Speaker 5: didn't feel like there was We had a lot of
Speaker 5: plays in the second half.
Speaker 6: We had a bunch of the first half, and I
Speaker 6: was a man saying.
Speaker 15: Zach went over a thousand yards rushing today. He also
Speaker 15: caught a touchdown pass. Is he one of the very
Speaker 15: biggest highlights for you from Yeah?
Speaker 5: He I thought he had an outstanding season and very
Speaker 5: dependable for us. Has really worked hard to be the
Speaker 5: player that he is, and so for the production to
Speaker 5: match that. I'm really proud to Chase, proud of the
Speaker 5: guys up front, you know that have helped pave the
Speaker 5: way for those rushing yards, probably Justin Hill. You know,
Speaker 5: Justin's done a great job getting that room, getting getting
Speaker 5: them Narissa full potential. So I was, let me see these,
Speaker 5: these milestones and achievements are bittersweet when when it happens
Speaker 5: like this, but at the same time, when a player
Speaker 5: puts a lot into his work and his craft, his
Speaker 5: career and you're happy to see them Tempriso's milestones that
Speaker 5: will be with them forever.
Speaker 15: I know you suggested this, We're hinted at this before,
Speaker 15: but how confident are you that there's a brain power
Speaker 15: in the building, both coaching staff, administration, all of it
Speaker 15: together to make sure this doesn't happen next year.
Speaker 6: I'm very confident why why.
Speaker 5: We have really good people and I enjoyed working with them,
Speaker 5: and missing is all of us equally, and I just
Speaker 5: I trust everybody.
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor. With reflections on what went right and what
Speaker 2: went wrong this season and the importance of this offseason,
Speaker 2: boy Dave, the AFC North is going to be interesting altogether.
Speaker 2: What the Bengals do. The Steelers have managed to make
Speaker 2: the playoffs again. I'll be danged if they didn't make
Speaker 2: the playoffs shunting last night. But the Ravens have had
Speaker 2: their issues and struggles and Cleveland has moved on from
Speaker 2: Kevin Stefanski. Today, It's going to be a really interesting
Speaker 2: division this offseason.
Speaker 4: It really is. I mean it's going to be anybody's division.
Speaker 4: It was this year, and the Bengals I think would
Speaker 4: have been right in the thick of it if they
Speaker 4: didn't suffer the injuries that they suffered and couldn't play
Speaker 4: with enough consistency. And that's what the Pittsburgh Steelers and
Speaker 4: the Baltimore Ravens did. They battled, and they had their
Speaker 4: ups and their downs, but you know, they were the
Speaker 4: more consistent football team or a more consistent football team
Speaker 4: than the Bengals, and they end up battling for the
Speaker 4: division title, but nobody ran away with it. And I
Speaker 4: don't think that's gonna happen happen next year. I think
Speaker 4: the Bengals if they can have a good offseason with
Speaker 4: these young players, particularly the rookies and first second your
Speaker 4: players going into their third year. I remember vividly as
Speaker 4: a player how important those offseasons were in terms of
Speaker 4: growth and development. And you know, as a rookie, you
Speaker 4: don't know what you don't know, and it's like, man,
Speaker 4: you're just overwhelmed. You're just trying to survive. And then
Speaker 4: you understand, Oh, I see what the National Football League's about. Now,
Speaker 4: now I'm going to hit the weight room. I'm going
Speaker 4: to make sure that I understand everything mentally, and I'm
Speaker 4: going to be ready to play my second year. And
Speaker 4: if you're a second year player going into your third,
Speaker 4: it's the same thing, and you want to make bigger
Speaker 4: contributions for your football team. So it's going to be
Speaker 4: interesting to see who steps up.
Speaker 2: That was Zach Taylor on What's Ahead. Let's hear more
Speaker 2: from Joe Burrow and What's Ahead as we continue with
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Speaker 2: Joe a very reflective of this season and the importance
Speaker 2: of the off season. Let's listen in more from QB one.
Speaker 13: I don't think I had to catch in the second
Speaker 13: half until that last right anyway, again, you opened it
Speaker 13: up or anything.
Speaker 3: No, not not particularly what we wanted to come in
Speaker 3: and run ball, try to mitigate the effect of their
Speaker 3: of their rush, and I think we ran it well.
Speaker 3: We got to a point in the game that we
Speaker 3: couldn't really do that anymore, so then we start dropping
Speaker 3: back and throwing it a little more, and that we affected.
Speaker 9: I think I don't think they did a top corners shot.
Speaker 3: Really did that? Did you try to take advantage of
Speaker 3: that or or was it kind of that they went
Speaker 3: into Yeah, I think we did take advantage of that.
Speaker 3: For the most part, I think we moved the ball
Speaker 3: well all day. You know, it came down to to
Speaker 3: them making a plan on a goal on the little
Speaker 3: goal line, putting their hand up, getting a tip, and
Speaker 3: then we fumbled and gave them another seven points. So
Speaker 3: they without those two corners out there, they certainly called
Speaker 3: the game a little differently than they would have otherwise.
Speaker 3: And I also thought we responded well to that and
Speaker 3: had the answers to those coverages as we were facing.
Speaker 14: Talked about needing to find a way to be on
Speaker 14: the field more. When you've reflected on this season with
Speaker 14: so many of your injuries in fluke, what do you
Speaker 14: mean by that and what can you do if you
Speaker 14: can do anything?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't I
Speaker 3: don't know if there's anything I can do about that.
Speaker 3: I work really hard to be great at this and
Speaker 3: try to put myself in a good position and put
Speaker 3: the team in a good position. So whatever that looks like,
Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I'm gonna certainly think critically about that
Speaker 3: and maybe make some changes.
Speaker 22: Maybe not.
Speaker 3: Maybe I decide that what I'm doing is great and
Speaker 3: put myself in a good position, and you know, things happen,
Speaker 3: but certainly we'll think about it.
Speaker 9: How are you feeling right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel good. I feel good. Yeah, I feel
Speaker 3: good mentally and physically.
Speaker 17: How would you rate your performances since you've been back
Speaker 17: and do you feel like you are given one hundred?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really proud of what I did this year.
Speaker 3: I'm really proud of what I did this year. Came
Speaker 3: back from an injury faster than any human ever has.
Speaker 3: I'm really proud of that. I think I came back
Speaker 3: and played some really good football. I had one bad game,
Speaker 3: and you know you certainly don't want any of those,
Speaker 3: but I'm certainly not going to lose my mind over that.
Speaker 3: I think you know, when I came back, I played
Speaker 3: some really high level football, and you know, I'm certainly
Speaker 3: proud of what I did this year.
Speaker 12: Would you want to win Comeback Player of the Year.
Speaker 12: I don't know if you could win it after being
Speaker 12: out in the same season.
Speaker 3: Next year.
Speaker 17: Maybe next year you look at where your career is
Speaker 17: six years in. Is it easier or more difficult to
Speaker 17: blot out the questions of what could have been? If
Speaker 17: you know you don't miss so much time with injuries
Speaker 17: in those six years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're at where we're at. I'm at where what's
Speaker 3: happened has happened. Certainly don't want to miss as much
Speaker 3: time as I have, but uh, that's that's where I'm at.
Speaker 3: So all you can do is evaluate the position that
Speaker 3: you're in and try to get better from there.
Speaker 12: Joe Zach was likely talked about kind of the pursuit
Speaker 12: of happiness more than you ever have. Why has there
Speaker 12: been such a big feed for you over the course
Speaker 12: of the season.
Speaker 3: You know, I think if you want to play this
Speaker 3: game for a long time, you got to enjoy what
Speaker 3: you do and who you do it with. And you know,
Speaker 3: injuries certainly take a toll on that. And I just
Speaker 3: think in life, I certainly don't want to let let
Speaker 3: losing and where our team is at at the moment,
Speaker 3: you know, affect all the other areas of my life.
Speaker 3: Certainly not happy with where.
Speaker 11: We're at, but.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not going to let that fact. Who
Speaker 3: I am and what I do and how I think
Speaker 3: about things.
Speaker 6: Has that been a big shift?
Speaker 12: I think a lot of times a lot of people
Speaker 12: will say it's been such a big part of your
Speaker 12: life as it is. Have you been trying to maybe
Speaker 12: separate how much happiness you get from playing the game
Speaker 12: and how much it affects the rest of you.
Speaker 6: Is that pretty fairness?
Speaker 3: Say you think?
Speaker 28: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think? I think so. I think so. You know,
Speaker 3: I work really hard at this, So it's certainly a
Speaker 3: hard pull to swallow when I'm getting injured the way
Speaker 3: that I am and we're losing the way that we are,
Speaker 3: and so you know, I haven't gotten that joy out
Speaker 3: of this that I used to from. You know, the
Speaker 3: joy that I got was winning, and uh, we certainly haven't.
Speaker 3: I haven't had that success that we expect. And so
Speaker 3: I'm not just gonna sit around and mope and be
Speaker 3: miserable to be around from loved ones and all of that.
Speaker 3: So I think it's just growth and maturity. Is there
Speaker 3: anything different you're gonna do?
Speaker 12: Maybe this offseason as you get to Greg, you thought
Speaker 12: about that for yet?
Speaker 3: Yes, I have thought about it, but not not critically
Speaker 3: to the point of change. Yet.
Speaker 11: What's the next week like?
Speaker 3: Relax, relax, be around friends and family and stay up late,
Speaker 3: stay in bed late late. Uh who knows? Right now,
Speaker 3: I'm not I got I got no no obligations for
Speaker 3: a while. So I'll just go to sleep when I
Speaker 3: get tired. I guess who knows.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 25: Zach was asked about his message to the team after
Speaker 25: the game and the way you guys lost this game.
Speaker 3: He said it was a little bit fitting. What are
Speaker 3: your thoughts on that. Yeah, that's certainly a microcosm of
Speaker 3: how things have gone across two years. We certainly expect
Speaker 3: to win that game, and we didn't make the place
Speaker 3: to do it. And you can say that for for
Speaker 3: a lot of for a lot of games over the
Speaker 3: last two years.
Speaker 10: Uh, Joe two part question for me, won out of
Speaker 10: the offensive line grow this year and also with having
Speaker 10: Joe Flack all around you pick his brains.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the Old Lion had their best year
Speaker 3: since I've been here. Uh. You know, I didn't get
Speaker 3: to experience much of it at the beginning of the year,
Speaker 3: but since I've come back, I think it's the best
Speaker 3: that they've been. I think we've run it the best
Speaker 3: that we've run it since I've been here as well,
Speaker 3: and I think that has opened up certain aspects of
Speaker 3: our offense. And I really enjoyed having Joe in the room,
Speaker 3: getting to know him and you know, sharing laughs and stories.
Speaker 3: And and all all that we had a great quarterback
Speaker 3: room this year and that you know, I didn't get
Speaker 3: to take as much part in it as I would
Speaker 3: have liked. But you know, when I wasn't there, I
Speaker 3: had a lot of fun.
Speaker 9: A lot guys come back from offseason workouts, and Joe
Speaker 9: Flacco's back in that room with.
Speaker 3: That that might gappy. Yeah, I'd love that. I think
Speaker 3: Number one, he played well when he was in there,
Speaker 3: and he has fun to watch, and you know, he
Speaker 3: brings a certain perspective that you don't. It's certainly unique.
Speaker 3: You don't get to be around guys that have played
Speaker 3: as long as he does and seen as much football
Speaker 3: as he has, and uh, you know, I think he
Speaker 3: would be valuable for us. We do.
Speaker 36: Seems like you gotta close a couple of times before
Speaker 36: he got that sacked, not just maybe United, just to
Speaker 36: David throughout the month times to face the how much
Speaker 36: just going against really tess that you know that internal
Speaker 36: clock more and as far as your reads and everything
Speaker 36: to make sure that you're going to the right place
Speaker 36: that you know where you need to be, just in case,
Speaker 36: because you know, that's a guy that's just like everybody said,
Speaker 36: he's just so much more athletic than most guys out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I certainly don't go into a play thinking about it,
Speaker 3: but my natural instincts kick in and you're feeling quickly often,
Speaker 3: and you know that certainly affects how far you can
Speaker 3: push the ball down the field, the protections that you
Speaker 3: can call, the plays that you can call, and how
Speaker 3: quickly you want to get the bough out of your hands.
Speaker 3: You know, he's the best of what he does, and
Speaker 3: you try to mitigate that as much as you can
Speaker 3: with your play callity, your protection plan, and then how
Speaker 3: the quarterback plays.
Speaker 36: I'llbe these next eight months for the organization, just to
Speaker 36: make sure that this drought ends at three so that
Speaker 36: it doesn't go to forts eighty yr computer for the
Speaker 36: vision again, trying to get back to the playoffs, back
Speaker 36: the actelly game, et cetera.
Speaker 3: As big as it gets.
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow on the importance of the offseason, and boy,
Speaker 2: he talk about somebody who's been through a lot and
Speaker 2: fought so hard to get back and then the disappointment
Speaker 2: of not making the playoffs, and as he said, he'll
Speaker 2: unplug for a little bit, sleep a little bit, sleep
Speaker 2: in late for a little bit, but man, you know
Speaker 2: he's just gonna be there. It's going to be a
Speaker 2: grind and just the desire to get back and get
Speaker 2: back in the playoffs.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, And you hit it with a great word. You
Speaker 4: chose their lanser, your word choice of grind because he
Speaker 4: is a grinder. I mean, I got a lot of
Speaker 4: respect for Joe man. He puts his nose to the
Speaker 4: grindstone and he works and he works hard. There's no
Speaker 4: prima donna and Joe Burrow. He gets down in dirty man.
Speaker 4: He's down with his teammates, with his boys working out,
Speaker 4: and I think they appreciate that and and they enjoy
Speaker 4: that the camaraderie of it, because you do build bonds
Speaker 4: in that regard when you're working hard and in the
Speaker 4: offseason getting ready, you know, to put together a big
Speaker 4: season and go to the playoffs and win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: So I think Joe Burrow likes everything about the game,
Speaker 4: the tangible, the intangible, everything that goes along with being
Speaker 4: a professional football player. And Joe is definitely a pros pro.
Speaker 2: Still ahead, our final fun facts of the Year, Dan
Speaker 2: Horde with Keyshawn Williams, who made a nice impression when
Speaker 2: the Bengals had a nam late in the season that
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Speaker 2: Time for our final fun Facts of the year. We've
Speaker 2: loved this segment Each week with Dan Hordy pulls back
Speaker 2: the curtain and we learn a little bit more about
Speaker 2: a Bengals player. And this one was a late ad
Speaker 2: late stages of the season. A waiverclaim from the Pittsburgh
Speaker 2: Steelers made a nice impression, returning punts and returning kicks.
Speaker 2: Here's Dan horde Fun Facts with Keyshawn Williams.
Speaker 8: No Fantastic fun Facts.
Speaker 13: With Dan ord Todd for some fun facts with wide
Speaker 13: receiver and return specialist Keyshawn Williams from the City of
Speaker 13: Brotherly Love, Philadelphia, PA. What do you love about your hometown, just.
Speaker 35: To support and love that I get from a lot
Speaker 35: of people in a city that know me, don't know me.
Speaker 35: It just showed me a lot of love and support
Speaker 35: along my journey.
Speaker 13: Philadelphia obviously has teams in all of the major sports.
Speaker 13: Did you get to attend games as a kid growing up?
Speaker 35: I went to a few for these games, a few
Speaker 35: Sixers games. I've never been to an Eagles game. I
Speaker 35: did go to some training camp practices.
Speaker 13: So when you go to an Eagles game, it'll be
Speaker 13: as a competitor.
Speaker 27: Yeah, my first time in the stadium.
Speaker 13: It will be that key shot. According to your bio,
Speaker 13: you played football, basketball, and ran track as a kid.
Speaker 13: When did you decide to focus on football.
Speaker 35: I decided to focus on football my junior year. That
Speaker 35: got my first offer from the Temple. And but before
Speaker 35: that offer, I just knew I was going to coffee basketball.
Speaker 35: So that kind of cuick changing the shift in my
Speaker 35: mindset at that moment.
Speaker 13: What was it like to get that first offer?
Speaker 27: It was everything, you know.
Speaker 35: I got it on Thanksgiving with my family and it
Speaker 35: just was a symbol of all the hard work and
Speaker 35: the dedication for severiance throughout my life.
Speaker 13: Of that time we're visiting with Kayshawn Williams. Your high
Speaker 13: school was Chestnut Hill Academy. It sounds prestigious and preppy.
Speaker 13: How would you describe it, Well.
Speaker 27: Exactly like that.
Speaker 35: It was in private school, independent school, and interact very
Speaker 35: competitive football basketball wise.
Speaker 27: But you know, my mom invested.
Speaker 35: In my moss academics at a very young age, and
Speaker 35: I was able to get into that school in a
Speaker 35: full academic scholarship. I just so happened to be also
Speaker 35: freely talented at football basketball.
Speaker 13: So sounds like it prepared you well for college absolutely.
Speaker 35: You know, going into Wake Forest as a eighteen year
Speaker 35: old is also a prestigious academic university and it definitely
Speaker 35: prepared me for the life of U student an athlete there.
Speaker 13: Zach Taylor started his college career at Wake Forest. You
Speaker 13: spent your first four college seasons at wake Forest. Why
Speaker 13: did you choose Wake Just.
Speaker 35: The balance of academics and also powerful football. You know,
Speaker 35: it's the best of both worlds in terms of what
Speaker 35: I was getting and what I wanted. You know, also
Speaker 35: my mama, he's being extremely only about academics and importance
Speaker 35: of education. That was just something I wanted to do,
Speaker 35: so be able to corporate both sides, and one was
Speaker 35: a perfect situation.
Speaker 13: You finished your college career with one season at Indiana,
Speaker 13: and we're part of one of the most remarkable turnarounds
Speaker 13: in college football history, from three and nine the year
Speaker 13: before you got there, to eleven wins in a trip
Speaker 13: to the College Football Playoff last year under head coach
Speaker 13: Kurt Signetti. Help us understand what's made Kurt Signetti so successful.
Speaker 35: His mom said, he believes everything he says. When he
Speaker 35: went up there on Big Tim Media Day and so
Speaker 35: the nation that will be here again and December, you
Speaker 35: know a lot of people looked at him crazy. And
Speaker 35: you know when I visited, when I was in a portal,
Speaker 35: you know, he pitched the same thing he told to
Speaker 35: me what he said on Big Tim Media Day. And
Speaker 35: you know, he just has his mindset where he can
Speaker 35: make you believe in yourself even when others doubt. And
Speaker 35: you know, if you trust him and you you just
Speaker 35: align with what he has going on, it turns out
Speaker 35: to be successful.
Speaker 27: And you see his track record.
Speaker 35: He's been susfeared where he went, so it's hard to,
Speaker 35: you know, not believe in a guy like that.
Speaker 13: Just google him as he said, you had five catches
Speaker 13: in the college football playoff game against Notre Dame. Was
Speaker 13: that the highlight of your football career so far?
Speaker 35: No, I wouldn't say it's the highlight of my football career,
Speaker 35: but it was definitely a big moment for me.
Speaker 27: You know, you when you're younger, you.
Speaker 35: Dream of those moments of playing in college fotball playoff
Speaker 35: games and making plays to help your team win the game.
Speaker 35: But you know, I just feel like every day I
Speaker 35: continue to play this game at this level was the
Speaker 35: best day. So you know, I'm just grateful for everything.
Speaker 13: Key Shawn, you signed as a free agent with the
Speaker 13: Pittsburgh Steelers and in the preseason opener this year, you
Speaker 13: caught a touchdown pass against Jacksonville. How significant was that
Speaker 13: moment for you?
Speaker 35: It was extremely significant. You know, it was a reassurance moment.
Speaker 35: You know, coming out of the draft, you know, undrafted,
Speaker 35: you know, not being a guy with anybody has high
Speaker 35: expectations for us in terms of productivity, in terms of
Speaker 35: future wise with the league. But you know, to go
Speaker 35: out there and do what I know I was capable
Speaker 35: of and show up when my name was called, like
Speaker 35: just be an opportunist. Who always praised myself on being
Speaker 35: you know, it just meant everything.
Speaker 13: Did Not getting drafted put a chip on your shoulder.
Speaker 35: Most definitely, But at the same time, you know, I
Speaker 35: like to be a guy who's realistic. You know, understood
Speaker 35: that was a high possibility going into the draft. But
Speaker 35: like I said, I'm an opportunist. You know, I knew
Speaker 35: as long as I was able to get my foot
Speaker 35: in the door and make it on some team, I
Speaker 35: know I'll pay away for myself at the end of
Speaker 35: the day.
Speaker 13: So you played in eight games for the Pittsburgh Steelers,
Speaker 13: and then a few weeks ago, when they were trying
Speaker 13: to move you from the roster the practice squad to
Speaker 13: make a room for a veteran guy that they picked up,
Speaker 13: the Bengals jumped in and claimed you off waivers. How
Speaker 13: difficult is it to change teams at this stage of
Speaker 13: the season.
Speaker 35: It's definitely not ideal. But you know, my goal is
Speaker 35: to be on an active roster, contributing to a team.
Speaker 35: And you know, I'm glad that the Bengal was able
Speaker 35: to see something in me that they decided that they
Speaker 35: wanted to bring me on to help their team win games.
Speaker 27: And you know, I'm extremely grateful.
Speaker 35: You know, it was it was an unexpected turn of events,
Speaker 35: but you know, this was part of the business, and
Speaker 35: you know, like I like to be a realist, I
Speaker 35: understood how to I'm starting to understand how the business works.
Speaker 27: So there's no hard feelings.
Speaker 35: You know, I understand that Pittsburgh gave me the first
Speaker 35: opportunity to make my make a name for myself in
Speaker 35: this league, and if it wasn't for them, I probably
Speaker 35: wouldn't be here either. So you know, it was difficult
Speaker 35: and hard to process, but you know, it's just you
Speaker 35: gotta roll.
Speaker 27: With the punches.
Speaker 13: Have you even fully unpacked yet?
Speaker 35: Now I'm living out of a suitcase. I'm living out
Speaker 35: of a suitcase right now. But you know, it was
Speaker 35: only a short three weeks, you know, finishing up this week,
Speaker 35: but you know it's been a fun three weeks.
Speaker 13: Did you know anybody here from college or working out
Speaker 13: or anywhere along the.
Speaker 35: Way outside of the big names of the guys you
Speaker 35: hear on TV. No, I didn't know anybody personally, but
Speaker 35: you know, I'm I'm kind of used to, you know,
Speaker 35: jumping in the rooms and you know, just going and
Speaker 35: proving myself to whoever is there and making a name
Speaker 35: for myself that people want to get to know who
Speaker 35: I am.
Speaker 13: So no problem, We're doing fun facts with Keyshawn Williams.
Speaker 13: I read a pre draft scouting report that said the
Speaker 13: following quote. He has proven very difficult to bring down,
Speaker 13: and we've seen that in your first few games of
Speaker 13: the Bengals. You had a twenty eight yard punt return
Speaker 13: in the first game, of forty three yard punt return
Speaker 13: in the second game. You got a game ball after
Speaker 13: that game. Do you think you have an innate ability
Speaker 13: to make people miss?
Speaker 27: I think I do. I mean, you kind of have
Speaker 27: to have that ability to play.
Speaker 35: This game at my size and at my position has
Speaker 35: always been an important part of my game. Being able
Speaker 35: to use my lateral quickness to make people miss in
Speaker 35: short area spaces and you know, just using that to
Speaker 35: the best of my ability to give me an advantage
Speaker 35: on a field.
Speaker 13: Do you enjoy returning punts? It takes a certain type
Speaker 13: of person to have the willingness to go back there
Speaker 13: and be ready to run it back with guys bearing
Speaker 13: down on them.
Speaker 27: Absolutely, I enjoy. I love returning punds.
Speaker 35: You catch the ball in space and once you get
Speaker 35: the balls you versus everybody else is like a backyard
Speaker 35: football when you were a kid playing in the backyard.
Speaker 35: So you know, something I've been doing my whole life,
Speaker 35: and something will I hope I continue to keep doing
Speaker 35: for good the amount of time?
Speaker 13: All right, Time for a few wild card topics now
Speaker 13: with Keyshawn Williams. Who is your all time favorite athlete
Speaker 13: in any sport?
Speaker 35: And why My favorite all time athlete is Russell Westbrook.
Speaker 35: Just his mentality in terms of how he plays, you know, aggressive, strong,
Speaker 35: finishing at the room.
Speaker 27: With a lot of enthusiasm.
Speaker 35: You know, it's a sciding guy for me to watch,
Speaker 35: especially when I was a basketball player in my basketball days.
Speaker 13: All right, that's a good segue to my next question.
Speaker 13: You're only five to nine, but you had a thirty
Speaker 13: nine inch vertical at your pro day. Can you dunk?
Speaker 20: Yeah?
Speaker 35: I can catch it. I could, don't you know? Throw
Speaker 35: me a little oop the room, Greazer, get it in
Speaker 35: there for sure.
Speaker 13: Does it have to be an oop? Or if you're
Speaker 13: on a breakaway, can you throw them down?
Speaker 35: You give me a breakaway and I'm feeling good that
Speaker 35: day I get up there him put it in a
Speaker 35: room for sure.
Speaker 13: All right, you are named key Sean. There are some
Speaker 13: famous Keyshawn's out there. Keyshawn Johnson was probably the first
Speaker 13: famous football Keyshawn. Did your folks name you after anybody?
Speaker 13: Or did they just like the name?
Speaker 35: You let my mom tell us you would say she
Speaker 35: named me after Keyshawn Johnson, actually, but I believe it
Speaker 35: was just a combination of my parents. Who names My
Speaker 35: dad's name's Kenneth, my mom's name Sean took the key
Speaker 35: off and put it in from hers and then yeah,
Speaker 35: but I guess the football correlation always let her to
Speaker 35: believe was he has some type of impact on that,
Speaker 35: So sure, I'll give it to her.
Speaker 13: I guess that's why you wound up playing professional football.
Speaker 13: All right, As I mentioned off the top, you're from Philadelphia.
Speaker 13: Famous Philadelphia foods include the cheese steak, the roast pork sandwich,
Speaker 13: the soft pretzel. What's the first thing you want to
Speaker 13: eat when you go home?
Speaker 35: I'm definitely going to Max's and give me a cheese steak,
Speaker 35: either Max or Eshcabibbles and I'm going to give me
Speaker 35: a cheese steak for sure.
Speaker 13: All right, So Max's is that like where the locals go?
Speaker 13: Because it's an out of town or we hear about
Speaker 13: Gino's and Pats.
Speaker 27: Yeah, Gino's and passes. More of a worthy spot.
Speaker 35: Maxis has become pretty popular because it was on the
Speaker 35: Kevin Hart documentary. But Ishka Bibbels is another big spot
Speaker 35: that I like to go to.
Speaker 27: So that's my favorite.
Speaker 13: All right, next time I'm in Philly, Max's or ish
Speaker 13: Ka Bibbles. Final fun fact for Kaishawn Williams. And this
Speaker 13: one's kind of deep. If you could meet anybody in history,
Speaker 13: living or deceased, who would that person be?
Speaker 34: For me?
Speaker 35: It'll be my grandmama on my dad's side. She passed
Speaker 35: when I was two years old. You know, whether conscience
Speaker 35: yet or got to meet her personally, but you know,
Speaker 35: I heard a lot of stories of the woman she
Speaker 35: was and what she stood for and how much she
Speaker 35: believed and protected her grandchildren, her children, her niate nephews, nieces,
Speaker 35: and you know I would love to meet her and
Speaker 35: let her allow her to you know, see the man
Speaker 35: I've become from the two year old kids she saw.
Speaker 13: She would be very proud. There's no doubt about that. Kayshawn,
Speaker 13: Congratulations on your great start with Cincinnati appreciate your time,
Speaker 13: best of love going forward, Appreciate you for having me.
Speaker 2: Thank you Keishawan Williams part of fun Facts this week,
Speaker 2: and thanks to Dan Horde for being a part of
Speaker 2: that with his fun Facts each week here on Bengals Line.
Speaker 2: Still ahead, BJ Hill in final thoughts on the season,
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Speaker 2: BJ Hill yesterday eight tackles. He had a sack. It
Speaker 2: was an easy sack. It was the easiest sack he'll
Speaker 2: ever had. He just hey in the box score, it's
Speaker 2: a sack, so you take it. And BJ Hill talked
Speaker 2: after the game about the season and what's ahead.
Speaker 13: BJ. Eight tackles and a sack today. You had a
Speaker 13: terrific game. The defense in general had a terrific game. Unfortunately,
Speaker 13: when you needed that stop at the end, I didn't
Speaker 13: quite get it. How disappointing is it to end the
Speaker 13: season on that note.
Speaker 33: It's definitely disappointing. That's definitely been playing really good ball
Speaker 33: the last couple of weeks. I know, we just got
Speaker 33: to make a play done in the stretch. Yeah, it sucks,
Speaker 33: but you know we learned from the move on here
Speaker 33: with next year.
Speaker 13: Five sacks today, constant pressure on Shador Sanders. Did you
Speaker 13: feel like the defense showed in this final game kind
Speaker 13: of the progress you've made in the last half of
Speaker 13: the season.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think so. I'm excited for the future of
Speaker 11: this team.
Speaker 22: Man.
Speaker 33: We got a lot of good young guys here on
Speaker 33: the team, so, man, the future is very bright for us.
Speaker 13: They had two defensive touchdowns when you had the early
Speaker 13: lead in this game. What kind of an emotional blow
Speaker 13: is that.
Speaker 33: You know, you just put the ball down mentality for
Speaker 33: the defense, I don't know what happens. We just got
Speaker 33: to go out there and get stops.
Speaker 13: You want to keep playing. You hit this point of
Speaker 13: the year, and obviously you've been on teams that have
Speaker 13: made it to the Super Bowl in the NFC Championship game.
Speaker 13: Is it kind of strange for the season to be done.
Speaker 33: Yeah, for sure, especially when we got great group of guys,
Speaker 33: like especially like all the time we got in here.
Speaker 33: We just fell short a little bit. But like I said,
Speaker 33: stuff happens. You let me move on and you learn
Speaker 33: from it. Don't make excuses on you on it, and
Speaker 33: just you get better.
Speaker 13: You've taken a big leadership role on defense, particularly in
Speaker 13: the second half of the season. How much did you
Speaker 13: see some of these young guys grow a lot?
Speaker 33: Man? I can name so many young guys that I
Speaker 33: grew up during the season. Man, you got we had
Speaker 33: two rooky linebackers that grew up real fast, Miles Murphy,
Speaker 33: Chris jan because even though he got heard, he grew
Speaker 33: up like Jay Blackly. We've got so many guys that
Speaker 33: stepped up and play really good football.
Speaker 13: Appreciate your time, enjoy the off season. We'll see you
Speaker 13: soon or not.
Speaker 11: Sounds good.
Speaker 2: Bj hill on the year, thirty years old, played in
Speaker 2: all seventeen games this season. I think we both appreciate
Speaker 2: what he contributes to the team, and I think part
Speaker 2: of the off season will be interesting. I still think
Speaker 2: they could use another body in the middle special somebody
Speaker 2: who could get pressure in the face of the quarterback.
Speaker 2: That would be ideal, wouldn't it.
Speaker 11: I agree with you.
Speaker 4: You know, bj Hill is probably, if not the best
Speaker 4: take along to call roll. He's probably number two with
Speaker 4: interior pass rush, and let's face it, that's that's where
Speaker 4: you can do some damage because you know, a quarterback
Speaker 4: like Sanders is a great example. You know, he's maybe
Speaker 4: six to two. They listen them at six to two.
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know if he is or not. But you
Speaker 4: get a defensive tackle in the face of the quarterback
Speaker 4: number one, they can't see, they can't see the middle
Speaker 4: of the football field. They have to get out to
Speaker 4: the perimeter and get out to the edges and throw
Speaker 4: it to the sidelines. And then they're also concerned with
Speaker 4: following through and hitting their hand on shoulder pads, helmets,
Speaker 4: that sort of thing, and sustaining injuries to their fingers
Speaker 4: in hand and things of that nature. So if you
Speaker 4: can get a big interior defensive tackle that can play
Speaker 4: the run, stuff the run and push the pocket into
Speaker 4: the quarterback's face, man, you get yourself a fined and
Speaker 4: they're they're hard to find. There don'll grow on trees.
Speaker 4: But if that's the case, if there's with the tenth
Speaker 4: pick of the draft, that there's a better interior defensive
Speaker 4: lineman than edge rush guy, there's been a run. Say,
Speaker 4: for example, as I'm using this is theoretical, it might happen,
Speaker 4: might not. But say on draft day, boy, there's a run.
Speaker 4: Three or four of the top edge rushers are gone,
Speaker 4: but the second best interior defensive tackle is available. I
Speaker 4: think the Bengals make that pick and are pleased to
Speaker 4: do it.
Speaker 2: No doubt, no doubt about that. Hey, let's head down
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Speaker 2: Dave in conclusion, I think we've set it up pretty
Speaker 2: well over the course of three hours. They're gonna have
Speaker 2: some money to spend wisely this offseason. They're gonna have
Speaker 2: the tenth pick in the draft. We've assessed the areas
Speaker 2: of need and now it falls on the plate of
Speaker 2: and the Bengals did announce today that Duke Tobin will
Speaker 2: address the media later in the week on Friday afternoon.
Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to hear what he says. But they
Speaker 2: have to come up with a plaan and thread the
Speaker 2: needle because you just can't miss the playoffs next year again.
Speaker 4: Exactly Lance, because like we've talked about, you got Joe
Speaker 4: Burrow Man. When you have Joe Burrow at the helm,
Speaker 4: when you have him at the quarterback position, you are
Speaker 4: a favorite man. You're in high cotton. You have a
Speaker 4: great chance to make the playoffs, win playoff games, and
Speaker 4: go to the Super Bowl. So you have the tenth
Speaker 4: pick of the draft, not only in the first round,
Speaker 4: but every round, so you know, every single round you're
Speaker 4: gonna have whoever's left on the board. If there hasn't
Speaker 4: been a run at that position group in the round prior,
Speaker 4: there's gonna be opportunity to assess multiple guys that might
Speaker 4: be available in the second round or the third round
Speaker 4: or whatever round we're talking about. So this is a
Speaker 4: very important draft for Duke Tobin and the Cincinnati Bengals
Speaker 4: and the coaching staff and everybody involved. And I do
Speaker 4: think there's going to be a shift. There's going to
Speaker 4: be some changes, some player changes in the fifty three
Speaker 4: man roster. I think there has to be.
Speaker 2: And the way the NFL is set up, it's the
Speaker 2: beauty of the league. Through scheduling, through salary cap, through change.
Speaker 2: You see teams like the Patriots who went four and
Speaker 2: thirteen last year, they go fourteen and three this year. Ye,
Speaker 2: Jacksonville four and thirteen last year, thirteen and four this year, right,
Speaker 2: the Bears five and twelve last year, eleven and six
Speaker 2: this year. Things change, Things happened fast in the NFL,
Speaker 2: and the tools are there. If used properly, you can
Speaker 2: flip from the bottom to the top in one offseason.
Speaker 4: And again, looking at those examples, what do they have
Speaker 4: in common? They all of a quarterback. Yes they do,
Speaker 4: and you know, okay, so they basically flip the script yep,
Speaker 4: from four to thirteen to thirteen and four in two scenarios,
Speaker 4: five and twelve to eleven and six in another. Why
Speaker 4: because they have the most important thing in all of sports.
Speaker 4: They do have the quarterback. They have the guy at
Speaker 4: the helm, the leader of the pack, and the Cincinnati
Speaker 4: Bengals certainly have one of the best in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Final thoughts, It's been at times a very fun season.
Speaker 2: At times it's been a very frustrating season. At times
Speaker 2: I've wanted to pull my hair out. But gathering here
Speaker 2: on Mondays with you and Yid we are a threesome
Speaker 2: that we operated like a well oiled machine out and
Speaker 2: day by say this every year. It is an honor
Speaker 2: for me to be able to sit with you and
Speaker 2: learn each week from you. I can't imagine doing it
Speaker 2: with anybody else. It is a pleasure and I've enjoyed
Speaker 2: it again. I look forward to next year. Lance.
Speaker 4: I appreciate those comments and thoughts very much. I think
Speaker 4: you're a heck of a broadcaster and an even better
Speaker 4: person man. Getting to know you over the years has
Speaker 4: been my pleasure, There's no question about that. And the
Speaker 4: Yid Man hardest working guy in all sports. I'm telling
Speaker 4: you it burns more hours up than anybody. You guys
Speaker 4: are pros pros and it's a lot of fun working
Speaker 4: with you every week.
Speaker 2: That will do it. That is our final edition. We
Speaker 2: thank you for joining us and tagging along this week
Speaker 2: through all the weeks of the season. Look forward to
Speaker 2: catching up with you in Week one next season. This
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