1 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: Well the weekend. It is welcome at home with Gary 2 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: Selvin taking your calls regarding home improvement, or maybe just 3 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: staying ahead of the problem. Anyway, it's eight hundred eight 4 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: two three eight two five five. Go ahead and take 5 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: a lot, take a line. Any boy's poised to take 6 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: your call. Let's go to Bill. 7 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: Bill Welcome, well, thanks for taking my call Gary, and 8 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:02,639 Speaker 2: hello from Montana. We need your help. We need your 9 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 2: help regarding ice damming in our roof on our roof, 10 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: and our original roof was the old masonite wood roof. 11 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:18,559 Speaker 2: We had that replaced with asphalt roofing. When they replaced 12 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: our our roof with asphalt roofing, they took out the 13 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: metal valleys and shingled right over the valleys. And since 14 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: then we've had several ice dam issues with intrusion of 15 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 2: water into our outside wall on the north side of 16 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: our house, and it's troubling. We've had several insulation companies 17 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: out to come and take a look. They says, no, 18 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: you've got ample insulation up there. The insurance gestures say, well, 19 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: it's just an act of God that ice damming prevails 20 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: and has caused this issue coming in in the outside wall, 21 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: so I assume the water intrusion isn't far up from 22 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 2: the gutters our sofat is like twenty inch overhang. The 23 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: Syns put up a cable to eliminate this from happening, 24 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: but we're not always home, and if we were gone 25 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: and had this ice just we can't do this. We 26 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 2: have hardwood floors. Goes underneath our hardwood floors need to 27 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: be totally replaced, and we're just really that this is 28 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: at the north side our house. We're just really at 29 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 2: our within Frankly, well. 30 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: I think you've got a pretty good understanding of ice 31 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: dands and what's causing it, and it sounds like you've 32 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: addressed that with insulation and things as far as running 33 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: the wire there, and maybe that's the only option. I 34 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: don't know, but one of the big problems with those 35 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: gutter cables or roof cables, whatever you want to call them, 36 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: is people don't turn them on, and if you're not home, 37 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: you can't turn them on. However they're you know, if 38 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: an outlet was installed up there and it was plugged 39 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: in there, there is a sensor that when that sensor 40 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: is wet, and it's in the upper thirties, it turns on, 41 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: so it would turn the cables on. So that's that's 42 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: something to keep in the back of your head, which 43 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: you know very well could eliminate the problem. The other thing, right, 44 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: is so what you did in place of the flashing 45 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: or the valleys, you did what they call a California weave, 46 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: and that's where you and I'm not a big fan, okay, 47 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of people that do them, and 48 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: it's less expensive than the metal flashing in the valley, 49 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: but they weave those shingles and they don't have the fleshing. Now, 50 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: great problem with that is and I can't see your 51 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: roof and can't do an analysis of it. But depending 52 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: on the steepness and how big that valley is, sometimes 53 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: flashing in valleys is still not big enough. You need 54 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: what they call a saddle, which is just a larger 55 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: piece of metal. Not saying you need that, but if 56 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: it just started happening when you had that roof put on, 57 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: I would point the finger at the California weave being 58 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: an issue, and underneath that California weave if I were 59 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: to do it, and I don't know if the roof 60 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: of or the you know, specs said anything. There's what 61 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: they call ice guard that can go over shingles or 62 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: under shingles. I'm sorry. And so if you had an 63 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: ice dam and you had a California weave, the ice 64 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: guard would still protect the home. Okay, it's kind of 65 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: like a subroof, you will. So I don't know how 66 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: long ago did you do that. 67 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 2: Our roof, our new roof was actually twelve years old, 68 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: or the new roof, and so prior to that, we 69 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: never had an issue with the old wood roof with metal. 70 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 3: Valleys. 71 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 2: And it comes the water intrusion comes through an outside 72 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 2: wall well be where our entrance to our deck is, 73 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 2: which is on the north side of our house. So 74 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 2: we suspect that the water coming in must be just 75 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: above the soppot because it comes in the outside wall. 76 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: In fact, we don't even see it because it comes 77 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: in the outside wall and then goes underneath our hardwood 78 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 2: floors even into our basement. 79 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: Deck. Twelve years ago at all. 80 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 2: Got he doesn't he doesn't think that's the issue. We've 81 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: had him out several times. 82 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: What's he think the issue is? 83 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: Doesn't know, And because that's what we're kind of leaning on. 84 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean. 85 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: Because again it's on the outside wall. If we have 86 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 2: water coming into our ceiling, that's one thing. We don't 87 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,559 Speaker 2: see the water come in. It comes inside the sheet 88 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 2: rock or between the sheet rock and our X terrier. 89 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: It only happens when there's an ice dam. 90 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: Only happens when there's an ice dam, because it's at 91 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 2: a corner where there's the valley, and that ice will 92 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 2: build up there if we're not attentive, and it doesn't 93 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:52,799 Speaker 2: take long and the backtracks obviously no more than several 94 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 2: feet to get into that outside wall, because again our 95 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: soft is only twenty inches out. 96 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: Well, first, I'll apologize because I can't see the house 97 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: and leaks are hard enough to catch anyway. But if 98 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: it were me, just based on what you're telling me, 99 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: you know, it only happens when the ice dams. So 100 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: the ice dam is packed from that gutter up into 101 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: that little valley and it's coming through that outside wall, 102 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: and you know, and it didn't happen when we had flashing. 103 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: I I mean, water's weird. It can show up in 104 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: a house and it could be on the other side 105 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: of the house where the leak is. But you know, 106 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: but I think you've got a pretty good idea of 107 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: where it's coming from, and maybe that's something that has 108 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: to be changed. Is this the first time it's leaked 109 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: in twelve years, or do you have ice dams every year? 110 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: Several times in the last twelve years, okay, and both 111 00:07:55,240 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: of them we had insurance issues. And you know, it's 112 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: just probably try to match a hardwood floor in your houses. 113 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: I get that. I get that, and we just don't 114 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: like that, all right, right, well, and we're afraid to leave. 115 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: We're afraid to leave because I'm not here to plug 116 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: in the right the cable roof like it is right 117 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 2: now here today with snow in Montana here. 118 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, and you know, I mean, it's a not 119 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: a bad idea if you're going to use gutter cables 120 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: to have an outlet up there with a sensor. But 121 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: that's not solving the problem. That's just that's just eliminating. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 122 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: So I if it were me, I would ask around 123 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: one of the better roofers and and get their opinion 124 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: on it. I I really really would. At the very least, 125 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:51,719 Speaker 1: if you can focus really on where that area is 126 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: h taking out that California weaving some flashing, that's kind 127 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: of where i'd be leaning, but I'd love to get 128 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: another person's opinion. Your first roofer obviously doesn't want to 129 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: screw around with it because we're having a league and 130 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: we're having ice dams, and we never used to have 131 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: this problem. But he doesn't think it's it and he 132 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 1: might be right, but I don't believe he. 133 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: Is, and we can't from the ceiling inside we're all in. 134 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: It's adically insulated. We cannot because the design of the 135 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 2: roof in the room not enough room to crawl back in. 136 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 3: There is out of sight right, right, so we. 137 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: Don't see any water damage coming through the roof onto 138 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: the into our attic area at all. 139 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 1: So is it a brick house? Is probably a woodhouse? Right? 140 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 2: It's a woodhouse, Yeah, at least night sighting and okay, 141 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 2: two by six walls. 142 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: Well again, I think you know, we got a we 143 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: got a party here who put a roof on twelve 144 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: years ago, and he doesn't want to mess with it. 145 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: I think I think that's the beginning of your answer. 146 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. He could be a great guy, he 147 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: could be a great roofer, but he didn't. He didn't 148 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: want to mess with it. So I would certainly find 149 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: me another roofer and get some opinions on that, and uh, 150 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: just see how close we are and go from there. 151 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 2: And we'll go and our problem is certainly this well 152 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 2: all winters too, is too cold to replace any part 153 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: of your roof. So this is going to be a 154 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: springtime job. 155 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 1: Right right, Well you can get those cables on your 156 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: home right now anyway, but you know, take some pictures 157 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: if you can, you know, if the ice dam's still there, 158 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: take pictures of it so they can at least figure 159 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: out the structure of it. And uh, but you know, 160 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: once in falls I think I I honestly think he's 161 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: going to look at that California weave and say there's 162 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: your problem and find out there's no snowguard underneath there, 163 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: and he's going to start the process. 164 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 2: Right on call for a new roof. 165 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: Well we'll see or yeah, you're probably not going to 166 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: be able to match it, but let's see what the 167 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: options are. 168 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 2: We'll do that, and we so appreciate your professional service, 169 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 2: ser Gary. 170 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Let me know how you make out. 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You can grab 223 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: a line. We have Steve. Steve Welcome, Hi Gary, it's there. 224 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 6: I had some concrete work done last fall and involved 225 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 6: putting in some steps, tearing out some old concrete steps 226 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 6: that were deteriorated and broken up and putting in new 227 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 6: steps and some flat areas of walkway. And once the 228 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 6: forums were taken off and everything and we had a rain, 229 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 6: we discovered that there were pools of water on the 230 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 6: steps that we're gonna you know, in the winter time, 231 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 6: they were gonna freeze and we were gonna have ice. 232 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 6: So we contacted the guy that did the concrete work. 233 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 6: He came back and he puts some I don't know 234 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 6: what over top. 235 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: It's just a. 236 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: Mix of. 237 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 6: Concrete or cement to level it up, and it doesn't 238 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 6: match the concrete. And he left real big brushstrokes. Looked 239 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 6: like he used a push broom or something to finish 240 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 6: it versus traaling it, and you know, and just looks 241 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 6: for new concrete for what we spent on. Yeah, so 242 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 6: looking the sort of tearing out brand new concrete and 243 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 6: it was ten to twelve thousand dollars worth of work 244 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 6: there and doing having somebody to try to do it over. 245 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 6: I've contacted some other people. The only person that is said. 246 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 6: Other contractors said I won't won't touch it. I wouldn't 247 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 6: put my name on that. But they have one fella 248 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 6: respond and he said he would recommend that I might 249 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 6: use some dice spread. 250 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 2: Rock on top of it. 251 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 6: Are you familiar with that product? 252 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? I am, I am. 253 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 6: Well, I guess the only concern about that would be durability. 254 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's pretty durable. But so there's 255 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: no way that the guy that installed that's going to 256 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: replace that for you. 257 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 3: No, he's not right, You're. 258 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: Right, all right. So you're cod stock, so we got 259 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: to repair what we have. So there's a couple of things. Yeah, 260 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: because I'm not even sure and you probably aren't either, 261 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: whether that topping compound that he put on there is 262 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: done properly. I know it looks terrible, but the bigger 263 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: question is is it going to stay adhered to those steps? 264 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: And if he just use like a sementatious mixture and 265 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: there's no bonding agent on that, it's not going to 266 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: stay on there. So it's going to fail and maybe 267 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: even look worse. That's what I'm worried about. But the 268 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: spreadstone product is a decorative coating which can work, but 269 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: if you need to add a little bit of slope, 270 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: you're going to need something that's thicker than spreadstone. Spreadstone 271 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: is about the thickness of a credit card. It's a 272 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: cementatious coating that we work wonderful, but if what we're 273 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 1: coating isn't going to stick, it's not going to be wonderful. 274 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: There's also one that I think I would recommend in 275 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: dice coatings rather than spreadstone. There's one called patch Fix 276 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: or rock fix or rock patch. There's just one product 277 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: like that. It's a patching compound that can be spread 278 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: up to a half inch thick. It's non cementatious, so 279 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: it's an acrylic resin, which means it'll bite to that 280 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: surface very well and you can just trial it on, 281 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 1: very easy to use. It would be perfect for that project. 282 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: The only issue still is if that first layer of 283 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: patch that he put on is going to stay there. 284 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: I know that rock fix is going to stay there, 285 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: but what you're going over I'm not sure would. And 286 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 1: then if you want to come back and put the 287 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: spread stone over that for a decade of appearance, that's fine, 288 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: but I don't think the spreadstone is going to be 289 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 1: thick enough to get that slope that you want. So 290 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: the rock patch, I think is the name of that product, 291 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: that would be the one I would use. Steve. If 292 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: you have a follow up question, just sit tight. I'll 293 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: get you on the other side. Otherwise you can get 294 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: back to your chores, as we all have plenty this 295 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 1: time of year. We'll continue with your calls. 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It's eight hundred and eighty two three 343 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: eight two five five and let's go to Larry. Larry welcome. 344 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, before I get to my question, I had 345 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 7: a contractor to do some concrete work for me, and 346 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 7: he guaranteed it against far and theft, and that was it. 347 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: I of guaranteed it's gonna crack. 348 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, yeah, it's not gonna and nobody goes steal it. 349 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, no, you know, on something like that. Though 350 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: in all honesty that that has nothing to do with 351 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: the concrete. That has to do with the workmanship. Yeah. Sure, 352 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: And that's kind of a shame. I mean, it costs 353 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: you ten ten grand. And then you got steps and 354 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 1: they're collecting water because they're not properly installed. And then 355 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: the guys I didn't ask, you know, but the guy 356 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: wasn't going to come back and take care of it, 357 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: that's for sure. 358 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 7: So okay, my question is I just installed three hundred 359 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 7: foot of shadow box fencing treated lumber. 360 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 8: How long do I wait? 361 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 7: I don't want to put a clear ceiling or stay, 362 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 7: I don't want a colored stain. How long should I wait? 363 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 7: And how to apply? What's the best product? 364 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: Well? First, is this all in a sunny location? Yes? 365 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: All right? Do you know how long a clear stain 366 00:23:59,080 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: will last? 367 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 7: Well? You usually get much faith are. 368 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: Well, even if you buy the best. 369 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 7: No, I don't want a year, two years, five. 370 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: Years, that's it? Year two? Really? 371 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 7: Year two? 372 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, clear penetrating stain. It's frustrating, but there's 373 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: there's very very little or no UV block and it'll 374 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: gray out that wood. And you know, the darker colors 375 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: you might be able to get three years out of 376 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: maybe four, but a clear you're just really not gonna get. 377 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 7: Much shadow box. 378 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: Then, yeah, I know, I know, I know, I hear 379 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: what you're saying. 380 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 7: And there is one I want to dad, because the airflow, 381 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 7: you know. 382 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, so just so you know that, that's the 383 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: only reason I'm bringing it up. It can be sprayed, 384 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: but not with an airless sprayer. You can spray it 385 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: on with a tank tank sprayer and then have somebody 386 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: back brushing it. That's probably gonna be the most efficient 387 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: way to apply it, So do not use it. No, 388 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: it'll literally, yeah, it'll evaporate. In fact, on most of 389 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 1: the labels it'll tell you just that, so double check me. 390 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: Maybe there's some brand that allows you to do that, 391 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: but as far as I know, there is not, But 392 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: a tanks prayer will work. In fact, I've used it already. Uh. 393 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: The probably one of the best ones out there. Their 394 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: claim to fame is you'll get an extra year out 395 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: of what everybody else is will do. And and I 396 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: don't know the data that they have that, but that 397 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: means you'll get it up to two years. Uh huh. 398 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: All right, And it's called Defy d E f y. Now, yeah, 399 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna lose you in the woods here. So what 400 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: I mean by that is I'm gonna get it and 401 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: make it sound more complicated than it really is. But 402 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: the Defy is an acrylic or water based stain and 403 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: what that means and it has nanoparticles in, so it 404 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 1: has a sunscreen in. That's why it lasts a little 405 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: bit longer. The problem with a water based nanoparticles the 406 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: seiler wood Seiler is penetration into wood is difficult. Hmm. 407 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: So you got to really make sure that that wood 408 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: is going to accept that. And I would say you're 409 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: looking at anywhere from six months to a year before 410 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:47,959 Speaker 1: that would accept it pretty much any clear penetrating. 411 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 8: Stain, so a year beyond that, yeah, And you. 412 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,479 Speaker 1: Can test it along the way. You can get some 413 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: water in a spray bottle and just squirt it on 414 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: the you know, onto the wood, and if if that 415 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: wood absorbs it in thirty seconds, it's probably ready. We 416 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 1: don't know how long that wood's been in the in 417 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: the shop or the lumberyard or anything. So you know, 418 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: maybe you get lucky and in two months it says, 419 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: look at that, suretty free that. Yeah, mostly this time 420 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: of year it is. But you know, i'd certainly try 421 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: it at two months, six months, nine months, and twelve, 422 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: but probably. 423 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 7: Twelve okay, all right, good not buddy. 424 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 1: You bet you take care by And I encourage everybody 425 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: to think about that when you're getting deck stains too. 426 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: Just know what you're getting and know how it can 427 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: be applied, because it's critical. The biggest thing about those 428 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: decks is quite honestly, the maintenance on it. And I 429 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: know a lot of us have decks, and I also 430 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: know a lot of us don't take care of them, 431 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,719 Speaker 1: but let's take care of them. Maybe there's different products 432 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: you want to use to take care of them. And 433 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: I'm not talking just about composite woods. I'm talking about 434 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: seilers and things like that. So anyway, grab a line. 435 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 1: It's eight hundred and eighty two three eight two five 436 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: five bill. 437 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 8: Welcome, Thanks, thank you, Garry. 438 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: Yes, sir, we have. 439 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 8: An exterior door that gets a lot of rain, gets 440 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 8: sunshine in the summertime, and it's the finish on it 441 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 8: has pretty much deteriorated, and it was also possibly sprayed 442 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 8: with some type of brick cleaner. I'm not sure what 443 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 8: it might have been. And it has a lot of 444 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 8: gray areas on. 445 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 9: It, so we're just wondering how. 446 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: To do you think that gray area? Is this a 447 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: wood door or is it a fiberglass door? 448 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a wood door, wood. 449 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: Door, Okay. And that gray you think that is like 450 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,479 Speaker 1: more or cement or do you think it's just peeled 451 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: off to finish so bad the woods. 452 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 8: Grade, I think it's just the finish is gone. I 453 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 8: don't believe there's any mortar on there now. There could 454 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 8: have been at one time, okay, when they were working 455 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 8: on the brick, but I think it's mostly weather okay, 456 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 8: And I don't know what the brick cleaner would have done. 457 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. It sounds like it's in a 458 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: pretty pretty uh beds shape, though, I mean it's almost 459 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: something that sounds like we're going to have to take 460 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: off and probably sand down. Maybe doesn't sound like anything 461 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: really needs to be stripped off it. It's sounds like 462 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: it's just kind of worn off. 463 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 8: Right, so just basically sanding. 464 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, I think so. Yeah. One of 465 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: the things I always tell people, you know, when a 466 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: when a wood door or a fiberglass door gets tired, 467 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: in other words, the clear coating is you know, compromised. 468 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: The gray will the door will turn grain and look 469 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: very very bad. But if you put some water on 470 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: it and it looks new, maybe you don't have to 471 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: do as much work. So I always tell people to 472 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: test that. It sounds like yours is past that stage, 473 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: but I'd test it anyway if you wet it out. 474 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: If you wet the thing, just get a hose and 475 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: just wet that door and step back and say, well, no, 476 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: it still looks worn out, or man, that looks brand new. Yeah, 477 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: and sometimes it does look new, and then it's really 478 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: a question of just very light standing maybe with a 479 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: four hundred or a six hundred sanding sponge just kind 480 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: of just likely sand it and put a coat of 481 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: spar youu athane on it. Okay, let it dry two days, 482 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,719 Speaker 1: and then sand it again lightly four hundred greds six 483 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: hundred greds sanding sponge, put another coat on, Okay, So 484 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: I would only do that after I If I wet 485 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: that door in it looks real good, then I would 486 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: do that. If I wet it and it still looks tired, 487 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: I'd say I got to get that door off the 488 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: hinges onto a sawhorse. I need to use maybe some 489 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: If it's just stain, I would just sand. If there's 490 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: a little finish left on it, maybe like some smart 491 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: strip on there, and then sand. But I'm gonna guess 492 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: from the way you tell it, it sounds like I 493 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: would just sand it and then I would restain and 494 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: then two coats of spar your thing using the same 495 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: technique I just talked about. 496 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 8: Okay, Okay, with the weather that we do get on 497 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 8: that and the sun and the summertime with a storm, 498 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 8: door help or is that just going to hold the heat. 499 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: In, and that'll hold the heat in the thing that 500 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: would help. The thing that would help would be to 501 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:58,959 Speaker 1: paint it, you know, just and I'm you know that 502 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: may not be the look you want. But to give 503 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: you an example, a spar your thing with sun hitting it, 504 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: it's not so much the rain, it's the sun that's 505 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: killing you. You're gonna probably look at five years, six years. 506 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: With paint, you can probably fifteen or twenty years. Oh okay, 507 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: so okay, you know we make choices. Option, Yeah, exactly, 508 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: we make choices. 509 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 8: Okay, Well, sure, appreciate it and enjoy your ship. 510 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: Thank you much, thank you. All right, We got Wayne 511 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: and then Gary and Tracy. If you'd like to join 512 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: us as we talk a little home improvement, do so. 513 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: You're at Home with Gary Sullivan. 514 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 4: Help for your home is just a click away at 515 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 4: Garysullivan online dot com. This is at home with Gary Sullivan. 516 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: Hey, Gary, solvent here. As we head into warmer weather, 517 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: that means more traffic in and out of our house, kids, pets, 518 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: backyard projects, and it's tough keeping floors and counters clean. 519 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: That's why I like Jaws cleaners. 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I have a crack in one spot, 561 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 3: and I have basically it just doesn't look too good. 562 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 3: It could use something over top of it or cleaned 563 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 3: somehow and sealed, but I don't know what to use. 564 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 1: Well, I guess the first question is what do you 565 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: want it to look like when you're all finished? I mean, well, 566 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: well I talked. 567 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 3: It looked like it was brand new, but you know 568 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 3: that's not going to happen. 569 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I mean the first thing, tell me about 570 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: the crack, because we ought to take care of the 571 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:12,240 Speaker 1: cracks first. It's one crack, okay, down through the center 572 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: all the way across it or. 573 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 3: No, it's like we're the steps go down from the front. 574 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 9: Patio, and so that's called the riser, right, And it's. 575 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 3: On one side of the riser that goes out to 576 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 3: the yard. So that's the thinnest side of it, okay. 577 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: And and does it look like we could put some 578 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: clucking in it or to that? 579 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 3: Okay, No, it's not that. I would say it's quarter inch. 580 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: And it's on the vertical riser, the vertical part. It's 581 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 1: not on the horizontal flat piece. 582 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's on the top. It is, So it's vertical, 583 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 3: it's it's a brick, it's it's the other part. It's 584 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 3: it's like a little concrete slab that's on brick, and 585 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 3: the brick is not cracked, okay at all. 586 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 9: Okay, so you know what I'm saying, like, well, no. 587 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,479 Speaker 1: It's still just trying to just trying to decide whether 588 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: it's vertical or horizontal where the crack is because it 589 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 1: depends horizontal. Okay, Uh say it's about a quarter inch, yes, 590 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: and so we could just put in a liquid filler 591 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 1: in there then, yes, all right. So there's one called 592 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: crack seal. It's four cracks that are up to a 593 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 1: quarter inch. I would I would use that filler. Crack 594 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,359 Speaker 1: Seal is a quick crete product you can find most 595 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 1: hardware stores, big box stores. You'll clean it out, get 596 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: the dust out, a residue at it. It's in a 597 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 1: quark bottle with a little spout at the top, about 598 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: the thickness of a milkshake, and you just pour it 599 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:12,359 Speaker 1: in there, okay, filling that crack. And what I said 600 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,359 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the show is a lot of 601 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: times the cracks that you patch will be worse looking 602 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: than the crack because it'll be a different color. So 603 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: so yeah, so then the next step is cleaning the concrete. 604 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 1: You're going to have to clean it. Whether you think 605 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: it can match more or whether we're going to put 606 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 1: something over the surface. 607 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 3: It definitely needs clean So. 608 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: I would use an oxygenated bleach, which is sodium per carbonate. 609 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:52,399 Speaker 1: It's a powder. You mix it with water, you put 610 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 1: it on the slab, let's sit ten minutes, repeat, and 611 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: then scrub with either a big street broom or a 612 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: scrub brush, but scrub it as good as you can. 613 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: If you've got a pressure washer, you could use that 614 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,760 Speaker 1: instead of scrubbing. Okay, if you don't have one, scrub 615 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: it with a street broom or scrub brush and then 616 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: rinse with a hose. And at that point then it 617 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:22,800 Speaker 1: comes cosmetic. We've cleaned it, we've uh patched the crack. 618 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 1: I'm assuming the surface is relatively in decent shape now all. 619 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 3: Right, but I mean, you know it's it's starting to 620 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 3: it's getting old, and to me it looks like it 621 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,800 Speaker 3: could use coated with something. 622 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: Okay, so do you want to coat it with some 623 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: cementatious looking like a top coat of concrete, or do 624 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,240 Speaker 1: you want to coat it with like a decorative coating? 625 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 3: Uh, what do you mean by decoratives? 626 00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 1: All right, so he write this downs it's dice Coatings, 627 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: Daich Coatings dot com. I'm gonna tell you what the 628 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 1: options are and then you can go to their website. 629 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 1: The decorative coatings, they make two of them. One's called 630 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: roller Rock, one is called Spreadstone, and it's a thick 631 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: acrylic acrylic resin type stone looking coating. It's really good 632 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: looking and it's about as thick as a credit card, 633 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,240 Speaker 1: so it's got some thickness to it, and you literally 634 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 1: and slip resistant and you're gonna get between twelve and 635 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: fifteen years out of it. 636 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 3: And then you actually sounds good and. 637 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 1: You put a clear sealer over it. So it's a 638 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 1: decorative coating. It's DICEE Coatings, spread Rock or roller Rock. 639 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 1: They even have one called Terazo if you want to 640 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 1: look at that. They got great videos on there. And 641 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: the other option was if you just wanted to look 642 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 1: like concrete, they have one called rock Patch and rock 643 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 1: Patch same company. It's a thick non concrete but it 644 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: looks like concrete, so it has good bonding to existing concrete. 645 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:28,280 Speaker 1: And that's applied with a with a trial, and it 646 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 1: looks like concrete. It's it's not a decorative coating. It's 647 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 1: a concrete like coating. But it's really cool that it's 648 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 1: it's a cementatious. It's a non samentatious too, so we're 649 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,760 Speaker 1: not trying to bond concrete to concrete. It's it's actually 650 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 1: an acrellic resence, similar to the roller rock and spreadstone. 651 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: It's just thicker. 652 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 9: You can put it on thicks, same same life sta yes, sir. 653 00:41:55,680 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 1: And you could make that non slippery. They have a 654 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 1: seiler called track safe which would go over that. So 655 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,479 Speaker 1: there's all kinds of options there. But the first thing 656 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,399 Speaker 1: is let's clean it and patch it. Then we can 657 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 1: go from there. 658 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 3: I can still use that quick Creek product for the crack. Said, yes, sir, Okay, 659 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 3: well you've given me some good ideas. You know, I 660 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 3: listened to you all the time, but this is the 661 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 3: first time I called. 662 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,439 Speaker 1: Oh well, thank you, thank you calling any time. 663 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, all right. 664 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 1: Wayne, take care, bye bye. All right, and we're going 665 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 1: to talk about concrete a lot. And I'm not just 666 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 1: that's the second time we've talked about rock patching. We 667 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,319 Speaker 1: haven't talked about that but probably ten times last year. 668 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about that a lot this year 669 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 1: because my guess is, with the winter we've had throughout 670 00:42:55,200 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 1: the States this year, including the South, there was a 671 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,800 Speaker 1: there was salt. There was a lot of salt used, 672 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:09,240 Speaker 1: and as that melts the snow, it creates that salty 673 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: brine solution. And if you haven't had a lot of rain. 674 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,919 Speaker 1: Now where I am, we've had a lot of rain, 675 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 1: so it's rinsed all that off. But if that residue 676 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:24,839 Speaker 1: stays on there, it stays like corrosive, and I'd say 677 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 1: the end result is you get like driveway acne, you 678 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 1: get all these old pot marks all over the driveway. 679 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 1: So I think we're going to be doing some crack filling, 680 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 1: some overlays, some patching, and I welcome those calls because 681 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 1: there's nothing really more unsightly. I've got a can of 682 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 1: that in a grudge, and I'm probably gonna use it 683 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 1: on the first warm day. I got a couple divots 684 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 1: out of my driveway too. Get some age on it. 685 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,359 Speaker 1: All right, we'll take your calls. We got another hour 686 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 1: to go. It's eight hundred and eight two three eight 687 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,800 Speaker 1: two five five. You're at home with Gary Sullivan. 688 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 4: Solutions to your home improvement are as easy as calling 689 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 4: one eight hundred eighty two three talk. This is at 690 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 4: Home with Gary Sullivan.