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Speaker 1: Free agency to the draft and everything in between. We've

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Speaker 1: got the Bengals off season covered on ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 1: the official home of the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: That's right, four minutes after four o'clock. This is ESBN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. Im Oeger. We've We've had a lot happen

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Speaker 2: so far. In the first hour of the show, the

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Speaker 2: NFL Combine is happening in Indianapolis. Paul Danner Junior has

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Speaker 2: been there covering the combine and the Bengals Fortheathletic dot

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Speaker 2: Com and obviously for the Growler podcast. He is cranking

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Speaker 2: out content. Typically Paul joins us in studio on Tuesdays,

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Speaker 2: but a he's been in Indie b I wasn't here yesterday,

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Speaker 2: but we needed a Paul fix and so here that

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Speaker 2: might be what we call the segment now, a Paul fix.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. How's the combine.

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Speaker 3: It's lovely, mo, it's a great time. I'm enjoying myself.

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Speaker 3: It's it's been a little cold, but the takes have

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Speaker 3: been hot. Was one very good? Who's had the hottest one?

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Speaker 3: What's been the hottest take so far?

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't The hottest take is probably our

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Speaker 2: But that's all right, Oh boy, and the draft is

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Speaker 2: still two months away. I it's gonna be It's gonna

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Speaker 2: be fun. Did either of the Bengals coordinators today say

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Actually I thought there was some interesting stuff.

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Speaker 3: I feel like we're starting to get a little bit

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Speaker 3: clearer view from Al Golden on what their approach is

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Speaker 3: a there's a fun phrase, you like corporate synergistics? Oh?

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Speaker 3: So the phrase, the corporate catchphrase this week has been

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Speaker 3: Well, that's what I'm here for, MO to tell you

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Speaker 3: just that. So they're looking for players that can take

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Speaker 3: because there's a recognition of you know, we've talked a

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Speaker 3: You know, they just didn't have enough of those guys.

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Speaker 3: But they're looking for that in specific in ways that

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Speaker 5: No, there is a hey, he was a warrior last

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Speaker 3: And so that's they're looking for players and free agency

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Speaker 1: Should I be unsurprised that they love Jordan Battle?

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's a tactic they're taking to

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Speaker 2: There are different levels of love. So let me just

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Speaker 3: No Caleb Downs, No, that would I don't think that

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Speaker 3: and and dal Golden talked about how you know he says,

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Speaker 4: I love toys. I would love that toy. It would

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Speaker 3: To have and I mean very embracing, and you could

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Speaker 2: Is force multiplier the sort of thing that people are

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Speaker 3: I'm hoping to properly make fun of it in my

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Speaker 3: any favorite corporate jargon words because I'm trying to drop

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Speaker 3: got putting a pin in. Yeah, it's a big one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, trying to kind of casually drop those in there,

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Speaker 2: Here's I think my current favorite one. When when corporations

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Speaker 4: I think you're getting ahead of yourself a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I sound it sounded like a team that's in negotiation,

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Speaker 3: But we think we bring value to him.

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Speaker 3: This kind of reminding everyone this is a guy that

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Speaker 3: I've kind of been talking about. And does that mean

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Speaker 3: It's just dealing with his people, finding a deal that

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Speaker 3: execute this for what you know, it was certainly wasn't

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Speaker 3: a thing of like we see a lot of value

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Speaker 3: in that, which is something that could have been said.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it wasn't that wasn't what we were hearing.

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Speaker 3: That's for sure, all right.

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Speaker 2: Paul Danner Junior from the combine. What happens now that

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Speaker 2: the coordinators have spoken? What happens the rest of the week.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting?

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Speaker 4: Nothing?

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Speaker 1: Oh really great?

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Speaker 3: No, No, I mean the players. I will talk to

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Speaker 3: you Darren Simmons as well tomorrow. The players have started

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Speaker 3: coming through now into that portion, you know, go down there,

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Speaker 3: and Ruben Bain was down there.

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Speaker 4: No one yelled at him to extend his arms and

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Speaker 4: show us how short his arms were.

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Speaker 3: Thankfully, Uh no, it wasn't like that. But you know,

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Speaker 3: it's you get that the players are starting to come

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Speaker 3: through and the medicals are coming out, and I'm sure

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Speaker 3: there'll be news from that, and obviously everyone's gonna want

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Speaker 4: So we'll do that for a little while.

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Speaker 3: But I mean this is kind of most of where

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Speaker 3: the news comes out, and the rest will just be

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Speaker 3: part of tinkering with with draft boards.

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Speaker 4: I am. You know, there's there's certainly players though that.

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Speaker 3: Could Shamar Stewart this thing, if you will, and have

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Speaker 3: a big, big combined in re mind everybody of the

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Speaker 2: Uh well, we'll be paying attention all week and uh

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Speaker 2: we'll see you next week.

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Speaker 1: Man, thank you as always awesome.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate him.

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Speaker 2: That's our guy, Paul Danner Junior. He is in Indianapolis

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Speaker 2: covering the Bengals at the Combine Fortheathletic dot com as

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